ABSOLUTE PERFECTION: THE 1972 MIAMI DOLPHINS

By: Randy Campbell (Old Dolfan)

GAME 8: NOV. 5, 1972 – MIAMI at BUFFALO

Two weeks earlier, the Miami Dolphins narrowly escaped the historic Orange Bowl with a 24-23 win over the Buffalo Bills.  As they prepared for the rematch head coach Don Shula asked offensive coordinator Howard Schnellenberger, csonkakiick“What do we do best against Buffalo?”  “That’s easy.  The thing we do best is running the football.” said Schnellenberger.  “Then THAT’s what we’re going to do,” said the Don of Miami.  Together, the two coaches developed a strategy they originally sprang on the Houston Oilers in week #2; the “3-Back Attack.”  A few new wrinkles were added to the mix.  But the philosophy was “We’re going to run the ball until forced to do something else.”

One of the three backs, Eugene (Mercury) Morris, had his own private rivalry with Bills’ star back O. J. Simpson.  “Back in college, O. J. beat me out two years in a row for the NCAA rushing title,” said Morris.  “Simpson always seems to beat me out.  When we both turned pro, he was an instant starter; I was on the second team.”  Morris continued, “O.J.’s always in the limelight.  But, today, things will be different.  My team, and my performance, will grab the headlines.”  Morris’ prophecy came true.KGrHqIOKjwE3QmcNN5QBOgCOuu_3 On Miami’s second play, Mercury Morris swept around right end and ran 33 yards down to the Bills’ 20.  Yepremian’s 33-yard field goal gave the Dolphins a quick 3-0 lead.  Buffalo responded.  A 13-yard touchdown pass, Dennis Shaw to Randy Jackson, put the Bills ahead 6-3 after a missed PAT.  Now was the time to put the “3-Back Attack” into high gear.  On the next drive, Jim Kiick and Larry Csonka combined for four carries for 25 yards.  Then Morrall connected with tight end Jim Mandich for 13 yards to the Buffalo 22.  Next, Morrall handed-off to Morris on a play designed to go off right tackle.  The hole was jammed, so Morris sprinted outside and burst to the 10 where the Bills’ Robert James and Maurice Tyler were waiting for him.  Morris juked James, bounced-off Tyler, and sped into the end zone for a 10-6 Miami advantage!

A pair of Yepremian field goals, set-up by the “3-Back Attack,” gave the Fins a 16-6 lead.  But Buffalo’s Tony Green intercepted Morrall and returned it for a touchdown, narrowing the gap to 16-13 at halftime.  The huge Buffalo crowd roared its approval!  Would there be another heart-stopping finish to a Dolphins-Bills game?  Would this be the end of The Perfect Season?

 

In the halftime locker room, Shula told his offense “We get the ball to start the third quarter.  We’ve GOT to send them a message.  If we score a touchdown on our first possession, we’ll put them in a hole they’ll never crawl out of!”  Shula’s words came true.  The “3-Back Attack” moved the Dolphins steadily down the field.  With the Bills’ defense deployed to stop the run, Earl Morrall calmly tossed a 7-yard touchdown pass to Marv Fleming, capping an 80-yard drive.  It was 23-13, Miami.

Buffalo came back later in the quarter to register a John Leypoldt field goal.  Going into the fourth quarter, Miami led 23-16.  It would be Miami’s (and Morris’) quarter.  After a Dolphins’ drive stalled, the “No Name Defense” stymied Buffalo’s attempt to tie the game.  Then the Dolphins drove for what would prove to be the game-clinching touchdown.  The Miami running game got the ball to the Buffalo 29.  Even a field goal would put the game out of reach.  Instead, Morrall found none other than Mercury Morris scooting up field closely guarded by a defender.  Without breaking stride, Morris reached behind, snared the ball, and ran all the way to the Bills’ 3 yard line!  Two plays later, Morris exploded through a hole created by Norm Evans for the clinching touchdown!  The “3-Back Attack” had worked to perfection, producing a 30-16 Miami victory.

Even O. J. Simpson was impressed.  “It’s going to be tough for them to get beat.  I think they’re the best team in football, “said the former Heisman Trophy winner.imagesCAPF6NNE (Simpson would NEVER know the joy of beating Miami.  His Bills would lose an NFL record 20 straight games to the Dolphins in the decade of the ’70’s!)  The numbers of this game told the story.  Simpson had 13 carries for a paltry 45 yards and no touchdowns.  Quarterback Dennis Shaw was 12 for 25 for only 125 yards, 1 touchdown and 2 interceptions.  The “No Name Defense” did its job, giving up only 9 points to the potent 093755aeb90dbbbfd1e99131a74991a2f563f4fc-220x300Bills’ offense (the other 7 points were the result of an intercepted pass returned for a TD).  Miami’s “3-Back Attack” produced mind-boggling numbers.  Larry Csonka had 17 carries for 72 yards; Jim Kiick ran 12 times for 63 yards.  And Mercury Morris clearly outperformed Simpson by tallying 106 yards and two touchdowns on only 10 carries.  All told, the Dolphins ran the ball 45 times for a FRANCHISE RECORD 254 YARDS!  Mercury Morris was given the coveted game ball.  Head coach Don Shula had a huge smile on his face.  Offensive coordinator Howard Schnellenberger lit-up his traditional “victory pipe!”  The future head coach of both the University of Miami and Florida Atlantic University believed this Dolphin team was unstoppable.

The 1972 Miami Dolphins were now 8-0.

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396 Responses to ABSOLUTE PERFECTION: THE 1972 MIAMI DOLPHINS

  1. jetsssuck says:

    Some interesting stuff about Howard Schnellenberger—–It might be interesting to look up why he left UM after winning the national championship.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Schnellenberger

  2. dbolt48 says:

    @AlbertBreer: Just got an unsolicited text from an exec: “Perriman ran really, really, really fast.” That’s Breshad, WR from UCF. Scouts buzzing on him.

  3. Mike E. says:

    @UCF Pro Day
    Breshad Perriman “ran” the 40 in 4.25 seconds. It was basically a broad jump from the starting line to the finish line. No need to worry about press coverage, he’ll leap past the competition. #1stPickInTheDraft

  4. Mike E. says:

    Jahn

    I also highly doubt we take DGB. I think it’s very unlikely. Only way I can see it happening is if one or more guys (maybe Tannenbaum and someone else) really like DGB, and all of the other highly rated WR’s are off the board.

    • D says:

      I dunno man, you have to weigh it out and i think there is more chance of it thn you think. I dont think he would be a primary choice, i mean in case of DGB vs Parker, Cooper, or White, i think we and most other teams would select them over DGB. I do think though if they really feel we need a receiver at 14, they would select him if all other options were off the board. We will know for sure if they bring him in for a private workout, which i think would be more like an extended interview tryng to figure out where he is maturity wise. People fuck up, especially when they are young kids in college, our coaches know this and i think it would be more about where he is NOW vs where he WAS then.

      • jahndoh says:

        “Then” wasn’t all that long ago. He’s been plagued by issues. Not just one, although the most recent involves the single biggest NFL hotbutton issue right now.

  5. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    March 25, 2015 at 1:45 pm
    Thanks, Gigi. My friend Jim who’s been fighting brain cancer for over 5 years passed away yesterday. He was 49.
    ———————————————
    Way too young to be dying. Im very sorry for your loss Tim, even more so for his family, especially kids if he had them. Beyond tragic.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Thank you.

      He has a daughter who’s 5. He got the cancer when his wife was pregnant. He never really got to enjoy her the way he should have. That’s one of the things that makes it even sadder.

  6. jetsssuck says:

    sorry to hear about your loss of a friend.

  7. Mike E. says:

    D

    I have a feeling DGB might not even be on our board period. Of course anything is possible, but my guess is we won’t be drafting him.

  8. Mike E. says:

    Your score is: 6106 (GRADE: B+)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 18 (K.C.): Eric Kendricks, ILB/OLB, UCLA (B-)
    Round 2 Pick 15: Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (A)
    Round 2 Pick 17 (K.C.): Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (B)
    Round 3 Pick 16 (K.C.): Davis Tull, OLB, Chattanooga (B)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Senquez Golson, CB, Ole Miss (B+)
    Round 5 Pick 13: Kurtis Drummond, FS, Michigan State (A)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Andy Gallik, C, Boston College (A)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Zach Zenner, FB/RB, South Dakota State (B-)

  9. CavalierKong says:

    Woah! Is it true that WR Breshad Perriman ran so fast he actually created 1.21 gigawatts and ended up in 1955?!!

  10. jetsssuck says:

    Washington (CNN)The U.S. military has charged Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl with one count each of desertion and misbehavior before the enemy, officials announced Wednesday afternoon.

  11. Tim Knight says:

    Mike E, you got a 2nd and a 3rd to trade back 4 spots? No way.

    • jahndoh says:

      Dollar to donuts that’s chart value. It cost a lot to move up in the first even just a few spots. Anything can and does happen on draft day. I would probably do it for just the second and maybe a 4th or 5th though…

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’ve never seen that kind of value for a trade like that. It would be almost impossible for a team to make that trade because it means someone fell and the team trading up really feels he’s special, that it would seem the team at #14 would just take that player or a team closer would look to trade up one or two spots. The only way it happens is if a team really overrates a prospect and does a stupid trade.

        I think it’s absurd to trade a 2nd and a 3rd to go from 18 to 14.

  12. The Flying Pig says:

    He gave up a 4th and move down 4 slots to pick up the 3rd rounder
    So that is not so crazy

  13. Rockphin says:

    “@AndrewSiciliano: Scot McCloughan says Redskins undecided on RGIII 5th yr option. Jay Gruden talks of hitting QB “reset” button» hint hint

    How the mighty have fallen. was it THREE first round picks and a second to move up and take him? we “reached” for Tannehill. LOL

  14. getterdone says:
    March 25, 2015 at 2:09 pm
    Tannehill does too. He’s accomplished as much or more than Suh so far….just sayin.
    ***********************
    GDP: You think Tannehill has accomplished as much or is on the same level as Suh?!? Wow….I beg to differ.

  15. Mike E. says:

    Those drafts are kind of just for fun. I don’t think anything is super realistic about them, or especially unrealistic either.

    • Mike E. says:

      I think the trades are overvalued, but otherwise, when picking straight up, it’s not off the wall.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’ve seen some extremely unrealistic drafts posted here. Trade downs for four 2nds, 3rds, and 4ths etc. LOL

      • Mike E. says:

        That’s what I mean, the trades can get silly, but the straight up drafts are as realistic as anything else out there.

  16. getterdone says:

    Brandon Marshall

  17. Mike E. says:

    One more for the road. Highest score ever! How do you get an A on every pick and get an A- grade overall? lol

    Your score is: 7092 (GRADE: A-)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 14: La’el Collins, OT/OG, LSU (A)
    Round 2 Pick 15: Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (A)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Davis Tull, OLB, Chattanooga (A)
    Round 5 Pick 13: MyCole Pruitt, TE, Southern Illinois (A)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Kurtis Drummond, FS, Michigan State (A)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Karlos Williams, RB, Florida State (A)

    • Mike E. says:

      Also, check this out . . .

      How You Matched Up:
      1. Denver Broncos – 7110
      2. Miami Dolphins – 7092
      3. Atlanta Falcons – 6842
      4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – 6796
      5. Minnesota Vikings – 6778
      6. Cleveland Browns – 6736
      7. New England Patriots – 6668
      8. New York Jets – 6656
      9. Arizona Cardinals – 6640
      10. Baltimore Ravens – 6562
      11. Seattle Seahawks – 6546
      12. Carolina Panthers – 6538
      13. Houston Texans – 6532
      14. St. Louis Rams – 6224
      15. New York Giants – 6216
      16. Indianapolis Colts – 6184
      17. Detroit Lions – 6166
      18. New Orleans Saints – 6154
      19. Dallas Cowboys – 6144
      20. Chicago Bears – 6138
      21. Washington Redskins – 6116
      22. Jacksonville Jaguars – 6112
      23. Oakland Raiders – 6106
      24. San Francisco 49ers – 6088
      25. San Diego Chargers – 6070
      26. Tennessee Titans – 5988
      27. Green Bay Packers – 5770
      28. Philadelphia Eagles – 5742
      29. Kansas City Chiefs – 5684
      30. Cincinnati Bengals – 5680
      31. Pittsburgh Steelers – 5646
      32. Buffalo Bills – 5526

    • stangerx says:

      Seems the key is La’el Collins….just like you said all along. 🙂

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Your penmanship was questionable

  18. getterdone says:

    I know Suh is the top in comparison to other DT’s…my comment on Tannehill was not based on writers awards. But what Tanehill has meant to his team. He’s accomplished a lot here, he’s broke a rookie record in his 4th game that bested Marino and he’s gotten better ever year stat wise, despite being behind the NFL’s worse OL.

    I know stats don’t mean much @ Suh’s position cause he’s a block eater, but statistically, his best year was his rookie year. I hope he continues to do the dirty work for us and get us the ball back more often so Tanny can really show what he’s capable of. SO THERE! 😉

  19. stangerx says:

    No signs before, none at all. This from a reporter that was following him in 2013 as part of an “in-depth interview” thing.
    ———————————–
    I looked out the front window of the bar and saw Hernandez urinating on a running taxi cab, with the driver yelling at him. All I could think was, Great, Hernandez is going to get in trouble, and I’m going to have to write about this nonsense. I asked a confidant of his if he might want to go get his friend. “He won’t listen to me so why don’t you go get him?”

    For some reason I didn’t think this to be unreasonable. I went outside, walked up to Hernandez and suggested he should probably use the restroom inside unless he wanted to get arrested. No response. Then I lightly touched his elbow to guide him back into the bar and said, “Aaron, come on. This is stupid.” At that point Hernandez whipped around, got in my face, unleashed a stream of expletives and concluded, “I’m not a child! You’re not my dad!”

  20. GDP: If I did not know any better I would think you are smoking this wacky tobaccy green stuff from here in Cali! 😛

  21. Mike E. says:

    LOL @ Stanger and Piggy. Penmanship is one thing I would fail on, especially if I had to write in script, or cursive as it’s properly known.

  22. getterdone says:

    My point is. I rather have a top QB than a top DT if you know what I mean. QB’s are more integral to winning the game because they touch the ball on every offensive snap.
    The best scenario is having both a top 10 QB & top 10 DT. We’re close to having both….so that’s why I said the wins should start coming Gigi. We’ve been over 13 yrs & 17 QB’s since we last were a winning team without Don & Dan.

  23. D says:

    The Washington rumor about perhaps selecting a QB with pick 5 i think is mostly to drive up the value of their pick. Reason i say this is that i heard a couple of weeks ago they were looking to trade the pick to recoup some of the lost picks or draw out suitors for a player for picks trade. Tenn is doing a imilar thing by spreading rumors about not being satisfied with Mettenberger. Both are believable, but given the shopping the pick preceded the “we might take a QB” rumors, im leaning towards it being a trade bait tactic.

  24. jahndoh says:

    Tim,
    I ran the numbers and actually it’s not even close to chart value. I think it’s unrealistic as well, though I think your logic has a flaw in it. Just because a team falls in love with a player doesn’t mean the team trading back would take that player instead. If some team fell in love with a player and gave a sweetheart offer, it’s not like the GM all of the sudden sees something he didn’t see before, he takes the sweetheart offer and gets the better of the trade.

    Still though, the chart value of that trade is that the 2nd rounder alone would get it done..and then some, so I agree, it’s unrealistic.

    • Tim Knight says:

      My point was to make that trade you have to see something very special in the player and if that’s the case, they likely wouldn’t be the only team who sees that.

  25. D says:

    I think some are discounting the process. Philbin doesn’t like certain character traits, he wants guys o be hard working stand up people. It doesn’t however mean he misses the point that people do stupid shit sometimes and they can get wake-up calls that get their lives back in order. I dont think DGB offers the security that some of the players do in that respect, he comes with a reason to investigate him further, but i think that’s exactly what they will do and then they will make their decision off of that, not ignore him as a possibility all together just because he has a past.Half of these kids have pasts if ya dig deep enough, and i bet you a bunch are going to surface in the next month. Im not pushing for DGB, i have pretty much 4 other WR’s rated higher than him as far as who i would take for Phins, but i definitely think the talent is there and there is more credit to be given to the possibility we would select him at 14.

  26. olddolphan says:

    GDP SAYS “The wins should start coming, Gigi.” –Pray tell where have I heard those words before?? –Now we DO have an opportunity to plug our gaping holes in the O-Line (2 holes at guard), Linebacker (at least 1 hole), defensive back (ditto), fullback (someone who can convert 3rd and 2) and a tall, dominant WR who’s a red zone specialist. Some may say our biggest need is A HEAD COACH, but don’t go there b/c Ross loves Philbin. Well, even I can’t drink enough KOOL-Aid to believe the upcoming draft will supply instant upgrades at those positions of need. –And there’s sure as hell no improvement coming this season at head coach. So, yeah, a winning season and a playoff victory are REAL LIKELY, RIGHT?? How could ANYONE have any doubts??
    ————-
    Patience, Old Dolfan, patience. Every franchise has a bad decade or two. Just be patient and everything will be OK.

    • olddolphan says:

      ALL those positions of need.

    • getterdone says:

      Sooo why renew your tickets, just watch on TV like the rest of us poor slobs 😉

    • jahndoh says:

      Alternative, don’t be patient, stamp your feet, get really angry.

      Both alternatives achieve the same thing, so it’s really about personal preference.

      • olddolphan says:

        That’s right, John. Some are OK with mediocrity. Some are not. –It’s great to live in a country where you can express yourself as you see fit.

      • jahndoh says:

        Some think how they react to mediocrity from a professional team will actually change it, some know better it.

        Some root for their team to be superbowl champions every single season even while others accuse them of “being ok with mediocrity”. Some think it’s cool to go around calling people “liars” at every opportunity too.

        Sure is a great country that allows me to point out these things out.

  27. Al in MIA says:

    Been looking at alot of WR film….I don’t think any of the WR at the top are worth trading up for (just sit and wait at 14 if WR is the target or trade back is what i mean).
    Coates & Perriman both look like they have the strongest core strength of the WR in the top 15 WR discussion.
    Baylor’s Antwan Goodley is interesting.
    UGA’s Chris Conley is worth a look as a developmental guy just on sheer physical abilities (as with Smelter of GT).
    I almost forgot about Cal WR Chris Harper who played with a bum QB (Jahn, what you think of him? He can really go up and get it at a high point though he’s light by NFL standards).

  28. getterdone says:

    OD,
    I certainly understand your frustration. I too came from the Perfect season era, that and the many Shula/Marino years have totally made us all spoiled lil brats. I must admit, I know I’m one.
    The Browns fans, buddies of mine, are still so loyal, die hard, and happy to beat the Steelers, Ravens, or Bengals at least once a year or achieve a 8-8 record and they’re on cloud 9.

    It’s become more just a ra ra entertainment thing in the modern FA era.
    Back in the pre-FA era you could identify with your team more cause players were usually there for their entire career, so it became like family.

    Now it’s all about selling high priced seats, huge advertising & merchandising, and Corporations entertaining clients or top level employees with blocks of prime tickets.

    On top of that, the rules keep changing and refs skew games in order to keep that entertainment value/rating high. Very few people want to sit 3+ hours and watch a 9-6 defensive battle these days.

    The integrity of the true game from days gone by are definitely GONE!

  29. Try Pod says:

    I can’t believe Zayn quit. What will all the 10 to 16 year old girls do?

  30. getterdone says:

    Al, good post, I like most of those WR’s you mentioned, but as you know I’ve been really pushing the other GT WR Waller.

  31. Tim Knight says:

    OD, fans have nothing to do with how well their teams do. If they did, every fan would have a winning team. LOL

  32. Brian in NY says:

    Tim,

    I’m really sorry you lost your friend. I hope that he is in a better place right now.

  33. Brian in NY says:

    Gigi (@Mrs2620) says:
    March 25, 2015 at 5:14 pm
    FYI: The stuff out here is 1,000 x better than in Florida
    *
    There is not even a debate about that Gigi! I lived there for two years, and have visited every few years or so as my brother lives out there.

  34. herdfan says:

    Tim, I’m so sorry to hear about your friend. Wish I could say something that makes you feel better and makes sense of it. Truth is, it just sucks.

  35. getterdone says:

    Damn, I was hoping OD liked my post 1 min after his last post. 😦
    He’s become a hot n run specialist, or didn’t like it at all.

  36. Brian in NY says:

    14: R1P14
    WR DEVANTE PARKER
    LOUISVILLE
    47: R2P15
    RB TODD GURLEY
    GEORGIA
    114: R4P15
    G ALI MARPET
    HOBART
    149: R5P13
    OT SEAN HICKEY
    SYRACUSE
    150: R5P14
    CB CHARLES GAINES
    LOUISVILLE
    190: R6P15
    S ADRIAN AMOS
    PENN STATE

  37. Try Pod says:

    First, they bring back “24” for a short season. Now, they are bringing back “The X Files” for a six episode arc. Neither are shows I ever really got into. However, if they’d do something similar with “Firefly”, I might arrange to watch that.. Browncoats- Unite!

  38. Tim Knight says:

    Brian, it’s heartbreaking on so many levels.

  39. jetsssuck says:

    why don’t you and your friends help the child during her lifetime. Birthdays, school projects, another words a life choice. My wife did this for walmart employee that was killed and he left behind a daughter. This kid will never go without with the funds from walmart foundation. My wife loves doing it and she says their is no more satisfaction than the time she spends with this kid and her mother . A group of you guys can make a major difference.

    • dbolt48 says:

      Crowder owned his ass!

    • jahndoh says:

      I struggle with this because I can’t stand Crowder. Crowder talks over everyone, and is notorious for saying stupid shit. So now he’s going to take McCain to task for a tweet?

      This is a good lesson in (why not to use) twitter. He now has to defend himself from looking like he was defending a rapist and deal with pricks like Crowder when it would’ve been so easy to not say anything at all. Social media encourages social mistakes. Him making that tweet was case in point.

  40. jahndoh says:

    Tim,

    An Irish wake starts with a lot of “keening” which is wailing and mourning, but it quickly moves on to the party portion and it’s not a time for tears, it’s a time for celebrating the life of the deceased. I wish you +vibes while you go through this period of mourning, but I also wish you great memories and many smiles when you get to the point you’re ready to celebrate his life.

    Cheers man +++++vibes.

  41. Ken says:

    What’s up FUers? Just get me to the draft. Perriman blowing things up to date. I wonder if it makes a difference on the top 3 or 4 WRs in the draft. If that time was legit he just might be a 1st round talent and perhaps somebody like Devante Parker lands in our lap at 14.

    • jahndoh says:

      I don’t know if that’s enough to push him into top 15 status, but if it were to drop one of the other top 3 guys to us, it’d be great. I think it’s more likely he goes in the first round now, but a one off 40 time seems like it shouldn’t be enough to change his fate all that much.

      • Ken says:

        4.25 is pretty rarefied air. Not many guys go that fast. If Al Davis were still alive I think we know who would be going at no. 4.

      • Ken says:

        BTW I agree that it is unlikely to change the top 3 status but I wouldn’t mind if it did. I would love for either White, Cooper or Parker to fall to us.

      • jahndoh says:

        Very fair point on Al Davis.

  42. wyoming85 says:

    This will make you feel better about the Fins!
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CA-xjcLUUAECw4c.jpg:large

  43. getterdone says:

    Wyoming, or this!

  44. wyoming85 says:

    20 cheerleaders VS. TannyHill?

    Joking right? 😉

  45. getterdone says:

    Ken, I’d be tempted to take Perriman over Parker. I think Parker is close to his ceiling, and Perriman still will develop quite a bit more….IMO.

    • Ken says:

      I like Parker more. His size and catch radius is awesome and he is plenty fast. I think he is going be a stud.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I actually think Parker has a high ceiling
      and has a lot of things he needs to work on

      To me between Perriman and Parker it’s not even close
      Parker by a mile

      But Perriman may have moved himself ahead of Parker in the eyes of many scouts I’m pretty sure he moved ahead if Strong

      I think your guy DGB and Perriman may bust up the whole order of he WRs in the draft
      DGB and Perriman could easily push some other quality prospects down

      I’m licking my chops at the prospect of drafting strong in the 2nd round

  46. Ken says:

    Perriman certainly helped himself today but I still think there is a bust factor with him. Smaller school, inconsistent hands but ceiling is high on the kid. I think he is my no. 5 WR in the draft. I would take in this order: Cooper, White, Parker and Strong before I take Perriman. But top of the draft for WR is looking real good right now.

  47. jahndoh says:

    Cheers everyone. My thoughts are with ya Tim. Cheers to Jim when I tip my beer tonight!

  48. The Flying Pig says:

    (Piggy farts in the blog and then flies away)

  49. The Flying Pig says:

    What did McCain say about sharper

  50. Ken says:

    What’s up Piggy?

  51. son of a son of a shula says:

    UCF has impeccable facilities. They most likely ran in the indoor practice facility today. Between the indoor facility, the outdoor facilities, or even the stadium Perriman had a great surface to run on.

    Now all of a sudden he’s in the conversation, lol, told you all along he was big and fast. Didn’t think he’d go that fast but he certainly always pulled away from anyone who was unfortunate enough to be behind him. And he’ll go make the tough yards over the middle too.

    I wonder if J-ville says screw it and spends another 3rd pick (1st round) on a UCF’er to pair with Blake. Interesting.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I guess blake is familiar enough with him to make it worth while

      Might be a good idea

      I hope Perriman pushes another WR down

      • Ken says:

        Watch DGB and Perriman be the first 2 WRs off the board. I would be screaming woo hoo at the TV if that happens.

    • Ken says:

      Your guy really helped himself today. I said above if Al Davis were alive he would be the no. 4 pick.

  52. The Flying Pig says:

    Sharper didn’t get life right?

  53. wyoming85 says:

    The Flying Pig says:

    March 25, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    That is stupid

    Like one has anything to do with the other
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    That is STUPID in more ways than I care to think about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  54. son of a son of a shula says:
  55. getterdone says:

    Guys, don’t you think if Perriman & DGB push the other big WR’s down, that maybe they are better receivers??? Think about it, why be all excited about Strong then in the 2nd?…lol

    But regardless, I think this is another deep WR class, should be something for most teams and the type of system they run or the type of body/speed they need.

    • Ken says:

      Not necessarily. Certain teams and GMs fall in love with the measureables which is why guys like Darrius Heyward Bey get drafted really high but clearly was not the best WR in that draft.

      • getterdone says:

        Measurables are certainly a 1/3 of the process.

      • Ken says:

        But many GMs fall in love with them and you see the Darrius Heyward Bey’s and Mike Mamula’s of this world get drafted. So the 1/3 sometimes gets more weight than that.

    • Ken says:

      By that reasoning Todd Blackledge was a better QB than Dan Marino.

  56. getterdone says:

    Ken he got 9 in CA & 20 in LA, to run concurrently.

  57. son of a son of a shula says:

    I think we get ourselves so boxed in on here sometimes. It’s about talent in the first round if that meets need then fine but you have to get the best players in round one. Perriman, DGB, Gurley (assuming full recovery) are amazing athletes, the pros won’t miss that. And if you don’t think we take a DE watch Fowler slide a little, we’d pounce or watch Beasley make it to 14 – snag… yeah a lot will happen and it will be much different than what the FU scripted. It always is.

    • getterdone says:

      True, we can only watch the internet & tv….scouts & GM’s have live views, interviews, etc etc.

      • getterdone says:

        Plus they get lots of inside type info from friends in the biz, i.e. other coaches etc.

    • Ken says:

      If Fowler or Beasley slide to 14 I can see us taking one of them. By all mocks I have seen they are both gone in the top 10. 5 DEs are consistently mocked in the top 10. I don’t see them there at 14.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        I’m saying if Fowler slides past 5 someone, maybe us, will pounce up to get him. Not that the stej would trade with us but my point is Fowler will go super early or he becomes a steal.

      • Ken says:

        Son:
        I don’t see us trading up for a DE. I can see it at WR and I can see us taking a DE if one fell to 14 which I don’t think will happen.

  58. The Flying Pig says:

    GDP

    I’m thinking push quality down to the 2nd round

    If we there are 6th first round caliber WRs
    There is a good chance 2 are selected in the 2nd round

    And you don’t kill your chance of landing a 1at round graded WR by trading back

    • The Flying Pig says:

      And for what it’s worth
      I have always though DGB could be the 1st WR off the board

      I just think he might be completely off our board

      • Ken says:

        Too much off the field risk for DGB to be the no. 1 WR drafted imo. Talent yes but with his domestic violence issues and the fact that it is a hot button issue for the league right now, I would be surprised if he is taken that early. My prediction, no. 32 to the Pats. It’s the kind of move that everyone fawns all over Bellicheck for.

  59. The Flying Pig says:

    Purportedly
    Gregory is dripping and is the pass rusher most likely to drop

  60. son of a son of a shula says:

    I still think Cooper is our target and we’re willing to move up to get him. JMO

    • Ken says:

      Yessssss. I am big fan of Amare Cooper. Most complete and polished WR of the draft. May not have the upside of White but I think he can play at a high level from day 1.

  61. The Flying Pig says:

    Some Perriman highlights

    I admit, at least in the highlights, he catches The ball better than my first impression

    How is he so wide open though
    I have to think the level of completion is a bit questionable

  62. getterdone says:

    Good discussion gents…I gots to go.

  63. The Flying Pig says:

    Cooper will make an impact as a rookie
    He is probably the most nfl ready WR

  64. wyoming85 says:

    Man oh Man’
    Walker didn’t like that tweet from McCain!

    Chiefen Walker ‏@ChiefenWalker · 5m5 minutes ago
    F U Chris McCain. F’ME Dolphins Fans no longer support you

  65. bookman11 says:

    Happy to be in Treasure Island Fl for 10 days.

  66. The Flying Pig says:

    Son

    Wedge may have to check out Perriman

    Is it raw speed or is he setting up the DB to guess wrong (piggy shrugs)
    I know speed kills
    But the later is usually more effective in the NFL IMO

    Some of those DBs were like 5 yards back
    They may have guessed wrong
    And some times that is bc the WR made them guess wrong

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      No because the film on him would tell any D to not let him get behind you. You can’t jump routes when he’ll beat you deep. He’s fluid with that short area quickness to get a move on a guy.

  67. Ken says:

    Alright guys I have to be in court early tomorrow. I am out. Peace to you all.

  68. Tim Knight says:

    Thanks, Jahn. The services are Saturday and a friend of ours’ band is playing that night at one of our old stomping grounds. He was actually a drummer in a band I was in many moons ago. We’re trying to get a bunch of us there after the services.

    My group of friends were all about getting a nice buzz and laughing, and that’s what we’ll do. We have hundreds of stories over the years that we’ll reminisce about. We will celebrate our time with Jim and try to grieve in a positive way. Part of the problem for us is he’s the first to go from our big group so it’s new to us and very difficult.

    I just lost my uncle who I was very close to so the feeling of mortality is still very real to me and I personally am trying to come to grips with life and what it’s all about.

    Thanks to everyone for your kind words.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Peace Tim. I hope you weather these storms alright you are a good man. Peace to Jim and to his family.

  69. bookman11 says:

    Son,
    Yes, St Pete Beach

  70. Tim Knight says:

    I would not be surprised if we traded up for Aamri Cooper. I think he’s Landry ready but more gifted in size and speed. He would make us better right away. You want a jolt of now, he’s even better than Keenan Allen out of the gate.

  71. The Flying Pig says:

  72. steveccnv says:

    4.15 40 for Perriman? That was the unofficial time, they said it was 4.22. He doesn’t look that fast.

  73. Randy says:

    Tim,
    I’m just catching up and was saddened to see that you lost a friend. A few years ago, I went through losing a friend I’d grown up with from birth through high school. I had a huge crush on her, and she was actually the first girl to kiss me…on a school bus in, like, 5th grade. She was also the first to pass from our class…at 44.

    The morning I found out about it, I was sitting in a staff meeting at work. In a daze, I found myself getting up and going out into the hallway…and crying for 5 minutes. Her death hit me harder than I could’ve imagined. It was a changing point in the lives of many of her friends, as we came to find out as we reminisced. The unfairness, the mortality, the realness of death…as if we had all been slapped in the face by life and didn’t much like it.

    Later, we were all able to smile…and remember her laugh…how she always seemed to be happy….a woman everyone liked. A friend.

  74. Tim Knight says:

    I think we’re going for it this year. Signed Suh and next is Tannehill. Don’t pay a 2016 1st round pick.

    The #14 and next years #1 to go up up and get Cooper. He reminds me of Boldin and Wayne combined. He’s a bigger and faster version of Landry. He would make us very difficult to defend.

    Landry, Cameron/Sims, Stills, Cooper, and Miller/Williams could be a really good offense.

    When you get right down to it, what is the pick, the FA or the player acquired through the draft? What does he do for us? Cooper is the perfect fit for what we’re running in Miami.

    I know some are saying WTF, Tim, but do you want to win or keep developing?

    I have a gut feeling Cooper will be good wherever he goes.

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