Two weeks earlier, the Miami Dolphins narrowly escaped the historic Orange Bowl with a 24-23 win over the Buffalo Bills. As they prepared for the rematch head coach Don Shula asked offensive coordinator Howard Schnellenberger, “What do we do best against Buffalo?” “That’s easy. The thing we do best is running the football.” said Schnellenberger. “Then THAT’s what we’re going to do,” said the Don of Miami. Together, the two coaches developed a strategy they originally sprang on the Houston Oilers in week #2; the “3-Back Attack.” A few new wrinkles were added to the mix. But the philosophy was “We’re going to run the ball until forced to do something else.”
One of the three backs, Eugene (Mercury) Morris, had his own private rivalry with Bills’ star back O. J. Simpson. “Back in college, O. J. beat me out two years in a row for the NCAA rushing title,” said Morris. “Simpson always seems to beat me out. When we both turned pro, he was an instant starter; I was on the second team.” Morris continued, “O.J.’s always in the limelight. But, today, things will be different. My team, and my performance, will grab the headlines.” Morris’ prophecy came true. On Miami’s second play, Mercury Morris swept around right end and ran 33 yards down to the Bills’ 20. Yepremian’s 33-yard field goal gave the Dolphins a quick 3-0 lead. Buffalo responded. A 13-yard touchdown pass, Dennis Shaw to Randy Jackson, put the Bills ahead 6-3 after a missed PAT. Now was the time to put the “3-Back Attack” into high gear. On the next drive, Jim Kiick and Larry Csonka combined for four carries for 25 yards. Then Morrall connected with tight end Jim Mandich for 13 yards to the Buffalo 22. Next, Morrall handed-off to Morris on a play designed to go off right tackle. The hole was jammed, so Morris sprinted outside and burst to the 10 where the Bills’ Robert James and Maurice Tyler were waiting for him. Morris juked James, bounced-off Tyler, and sped into the end zone for a 10-6 Miami advantage!
A pair of Yepremian field goals, set-up by the “3-Back Attack,” gave the Fins a 16-6 lead. But Buffalo’s Tony Green intercepted Morrall and returned it for a touchdown, narrowing the gap to 16-13 at halftime. The huge Buffalo crowd roared its approval! Would there be another heart-stopping finish to a Dolphins-Bills game? Would this be the end of The Perfect Season?
In the halftime locker room, Shula told his offense “We get the ball to start the third quarter. We’ve GOT to send them a message. If we score a touchdown on our first possession, we’ll put them in a hole they’ll never crawl out of!” Shula’s words came true. The “3-Back Attack” moved the Dolphins steadily down the field. With the Bills’ defense deployed to stop the run, Earl Morrall calmly tossed a 7-yard touchdown pass to Marv Fleming, capping an 80-yard drive. It was 23-13, Miami.
Buffalo came back later in the quarter to register a John Leypoldt field goal. Going into the fourth quarter, Miami led 23-16. It would be Miami’s (and Morris’) quarter. After a Dolphins’ drive stalled, the “No Name Defense” stymied Buffalo’s attempt to tie the game. Then the Dolphins drove for what would prove to be the game-clinching touchdown. The Miami running game got the ball to the Buffalo 29. Even a field goal would put the game out of reach. Instead, Morrall found none other than Mercury Morris scooting up field closely guarded by a defender. Without breaking stride, Morris reached behind, snared the ball, and ran all the way to the Bills’ 3 yard line! Two plays later, Morris exploded through a hole created by Norm Evans for the clinching touchdown! The “3-Back Attack” had worked to perfection, producing a 30-16 Miami victory.
Even O. J. Simpson was impressed. “It’s going to be tough for them to get beat. I think they’re the best team in football, “said the former Heisman Trophy winner. (Simpson would NEVER know the joy of beating Miami. His Bills would lose an NFL record 20 straight games to the Dolphins in the decade of the ’70’s!) The numbers of this game told the story. Simpson had 13 carries for a paltry 45 yards and no touchdowns. Quarterback Dennis Shaw was 12 for 25 for only 125 yards, 1 touchdown and 2 interceptions. The “No Name Defense” did its job, giving up only 9 points to the potent Bills’ offense (the other 7 points were the result of an intercepted pass returned for a TD). Miami’s “3-Back Attack” produced mind-boggling numbers. Larry Csonka had 17 carries for 72 yards; Jim Kiick ran 12 times for 63 yards. And Mercury Morris clearly outperformed Simpson by tallying 106 yards and two touchdowns on only 10 carries. All told, the Dolphins ran the ball 45 times for a FRANCHISE RECORD 254 YARDS! Mercury Morris was given the coveted game ball. Head coach Don Shula had a huge smile on his face. Offensive coordinator Howard Schnellenberger lit-up his traditional “victory pipe!” The future head coach of both the University of Miami and Florida Atlantic University believed this Dolphin team was unstoppable.
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No biggie either way. They swung for an All pro TE and came up short. Looking at it, this team felt they needed an above the rim player at TE. If Cameron can stay healthy he has a very similar skillset.
… plus, Grahams contract, yikes. BUT… our front office knows we need elite athletes who cover up mistakes of others with their talent! I like the aggressiveness.
Actually judging by the players we brought in at TE&WR It appears the team thought we needed more competitive players who fight for the high point and contested balls. Very inconsistent at this last year outside of Landry.
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PHOENIX — The NFL adopted a new player-safety rule on Tuesday that could potentially have prevented Julian Edelman’s late-game heroics in last month’s Super Bowl.
The NFL’s owners unanimously passed Resolution G-2, in which the concussion spotters in the press box at each game now have the ability to directly contact the officials on the field and call for a medical timeout if a player shows “obvious signs of disorientation or is clearly unstable” and it becomes apparent that the player will remain in the game.
According to the language of the rule, “Upon being called by the ATC Spotter, the side judge will immediately stop the game, go to the player in question, and await the arrival of the team’s medical personnel to ensure that the player is attended to and escorted off the field. The game and play clock will stop [if running], and remain frozen until the player is removed from the game.”
1. The Breshad Perriman train is about to pick up steam… (March 25).
After straining his hamstring during Combine training, Perriman wasn’t cleared to run in Indianapolis and chose not to lift on the bench press, making his pro day a must-see event for NFL scouts. He is very well-liked in NFL circles with his size/athleticism combination so teams are eager to put testing numbers next to his name to see how it matches up with his film. Despite losing 2014 first round pick Blake Bortles at quarterback, Perriman had his most productive season as a junior and proved to be a big-play threat at every level of the field as the starting “X” receiver. With a good showing at Central Florida’s pro day, many around the league think its possible Perriman could sneak into the top-20 picks.
I don’t think he is as Polished as the top two. His physical upside is outstanding & he appears to be very mature and grounded which is probably helped by his father. If he hits his ceiling he can be the best WR of this class.
Tim Knight says:
March 25, 2015 at 9:48 am
If you had to pick, who do you think we take?
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With this team in particular I could see them going after Agholor before either. If it was my choice I take Perriman over Strong, but I like the upside of both.
I am actually starting to like Funchess more than Perriman or even Agholor. I went back and watched video on Funchess over the weekend and talk about a guy who can high point a ball it’s Funchess. I have been wary of him because of talk to make him a TE but I like him as a WR and think he can be a real red zone weapon. I still like Strong better than Funchess. I think Funchess is a round 2 value.
That’s the deal right there Tim. That’s exactly how I would like it to go. I think that makes us a much better team. Fix the O-line, and then get another weapon for Tannehill.
I was listening to Pat Kirwan, and he was talking about the Giants, and he recommended the Giants take one of the Collins boys, either Landon or La’el, and that’s at #9. Collins might fall to us, but I’d be surprised.
Speed thing was a little oversold also. He ran a 4.55 at the combine & that’s with them having timing issues evident from readjusting Amare Coopers 40 from a 4.43 and telling teams he was between a 4.35 & 4.38.
As I said many times…He’s an Anyonio Brown clone. All time receptions leader in D1 history. Big hands, solid vertical, elite route runner, Elite RAC ability….Why I view him as a 2nd round prospect.
Big day for all of the UCF hopefuls. Perriman should knock it out of the park.
Clayton Geathers is a solid prospect at Safety, he led the combine for DB’s in the bench press (22) and the verticle (37″). He was a hawk in his 4 years here. Rannel Hall the “other” WR is so under the radar but he’s a great route runner and has excellent hands. He and Perriman were an outstanding receiving duo.
My man Terrance Plummer is a nice prospect at linebacker as well, he always seemed to be around the ball and he would lay the wood.
All four are legit NFL prospects and I’d love to get any of them on the Fins.
Mike E. says:
March 25, 2015 at 10:24 am
Hardy 2nd RD D-Bolt? I think that’s too early
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Tim Knight says:
March 25, 2015 at 10:34 am
His game tape says he is but his measureables and speed says no. But Landry was a 2nd rd pick and he wasn’t a workout warrior either.
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Id actually make that comparison as well. Hardy isnt elite level speed. but he like Landry catches everything thrown to him and he has traits that help him gain separation on receivers despite not having great straight line speed. I think a lot here mistake the fact that a receiver without blazing speed can be successful, or at least if they aren’t blazing fast they got to be BIG. Its just not true. Hardy is one of the better receivers i have seen.
Ill put it another way. Amari Cooper was matched up on Vernon Hargreaves (UF CB, considered to be among the nations best) and Cooper had success in that game but generally when he crossed the safeties zone. Almost all the catches, save one very good TD reception was away from Hargreaves, and Hargreaves kept him in check most the game. Cooper is considered perhaps the top receiver in the draft at getting open (also without elite speed or size mind you) Hardy gave Hargreaves more fits in the Birmingham Bowl game i watched first hand. Hargreaves wound up saving the day on an beautiful end zone interception in front of Hardy, but most the game Hardy was just getting open on him. I bet if you asked Hargreaves who his toughest opponent he faced was, he probably names Cooper and Hardy in the same breath.
Hardy is smaller school, he doesn’t have the elite markers some of the other receivers have, but i could easily see him going late second, or 3rd round just off game tape and the insane stats he put up, 10 TD’s 1494 yards and a 12 YPC average.
dbolt48 says:
March 25, 2015 at 10:41 am
As I said many times…He’s an Anyonio Brown clone. All time receptions leader in D1 history. Big hands, solid vertical, elite route runner, Elite RAC ability….Why I view him as a 2nd round prospect.
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I really like him as well. If i cant have Parker, Id take him and then get a bigger guy like Waller later. More i look at Waller the more i really like the idea of him and lining him up all over the place, especially when we are in the RZ.
Nelson Agholor, Justin Hardy, Deandre Smelter, Kasen Williams, Austin Hill, Perrimen, etc. There’s some good guys who compete for contested throws.
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If his foot is 100% he is a beast!
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I have a hard time seeing us go DE at 14. There are 5 elite pass rushing prospects. All are projected to go before 14. I think at 14 we are likely to go WR, OL or DB.
Drafting a DE or DT in RD 1 would certainly be an eye opener but considering how the investments have been done so far, I’d say there’s a low chance of that happening. At least at Pick 14 (who knows in a trade down scenario).
CB, WR, OL, LB is likely the position to be filled with pick 14 or anything in the top 20.
Looks like we brought in Ramik Wilson for a private workout. He’s my fallback option for us at ILB were we not able to get the top teir guys like Perryman, Kendricks, McKinney.
This is my ILB top 5 in order.
McKinney
Kendricks
Perryman
Anthony
Wilson
Al,
good question on do I see us taking a CB in 1-2nd rd. A lot depends on what the coaches think of where Tayor & Davis are at, and even Aiken our 4th round pick last year.
But they could in the first if they think Tre Waynes is that much heads and trails above the rest, of course if a big WR like White is still on the board, then I’d hope we go there.
After signing FA CB McCain, I think that gives us a bit of the luxury of waiting till the later rounds to develop someone if we have greater needs or great BPA type that fill those needs in rounds 1 & 2.
son of a son of a shula says:
March 25, 2015 at 11:34 am
I think if we do we are essentially cutting either Taylor or Davis which is possible as they are Ireland picks.
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They are still cheap but their rookie contracts will expire after next season and Grimes is on borrowed time (2 years max) given age/salary.
They can go the route of bringing in a veteran (like Finnegan last year) on a short term contract to add depth in case injuries happen to Davis/Taylor/Grimes but more quality DB are needed (the younger cheaper kind)
I have McKinney as my top ILB due to fact his size and athleticism are traits you cant teach and all his flaws even from ILB position are teachable. I think he may not be the best hit the ground running guy, and yes might likely have to be started at a OLB position before being moved inside but i think his potential exceeds all the others in the long run.
Ramik is no slouch either, i mean early in the year he was being talked about as potentially a top guy and i think only through the efforts of the others has he kinda slid out of the spotlight. I have no doubts he will be a good ILB some day, but i will admit he, like McKinney could need to start at OLB to get game experience before moving to ILB. He has good size for the position being 6’3 248, so again, traits you cant teach. He isn’t as athletic as McKinney, or probably Kendrick or Anthony, but he, i think develops into a very nice player.
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I honestly think forall of the ILB prospects, they would probably need to start at OLB or rotate in at OLB. I think Misi is going to have to stay put at ILB while these guys acclimate and i think that may be the best plan anyways. By mid year maybe give the guy a shot at the inside, but 4-3 MLB is a hard position to step in green, not yet up to NFL speed, or any exposure to NFL formations. I think all of the would survive there, especially since Suh is going to give them a little more ease of acclimation, but smarter move probably is OLB or slowly rotating them into the ILB position through the course of the year.
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I tend to think Perryman or Kendricks can start at MLB on day 1
I agree that Suh makes everyone’s job a little easier
Misi is kind of a luxury
even though he isn;t healthy he can’t help us ease a player in
but he can do that inside or outside
I want to draft 2 LBs
1 to play inside and 1 to play outside
and if they need a little time I think Misi is a big asset to the team
Not sure we need to draft 2. Plus Philbin seems convinced Misi to remain @ MLB, will improve in his 2nd year there. I also expect to see Tripp & McPain emerge in their 2nd year like Jelani has.
Ken,
I think the TE class is underrated.
Wes Saxson is an Hback type
Blake Bell is still vanilla at TE but has good feet for short space and to me is Amaro like but higher ceiling.
i really like Bell, he could be a steal if on the board in the 5th where we have 2 picks.
He’ll take 2 years to develop, but he’ll be a good one. Reminds me of my likes of Travis Kelce back when he was in the draft.
There is no one in the TE class that screams impact player. I am not saying there are not some prospects out there that can in turn into a quality player but we are not going to find the next Jimmy Graham or Gronk in this year’s draft. BTW I like the Belldozer too. Very versatile guy and he can always be used for specialty plays as well. He has a decent arm.
Even though Misi has been banged up the last few years, it’s not like he can’t have a good season and not have a high ankle sprain all season this year.
BTW, I really like the size of Rowe, and the speed and vertical for this big DB is nice. He’s also versatile, has played both @ S & CB.
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I guess the Aiken mold.
I’d me more comfortable just seeing the Fins take Holliman but whatever the team gets they get. 😛
Tim,
Misi looks natural at MLB to me but the problems he had last year were instinctual.
He took some bad angles guessing on direction and to me he has to cut that shit out.
I like Jake Ryan to groom for our MLB spot, he can also play outside…is solid in both run & coverage support. He’s another guy I’d look hard at if he’s there in the 5th where we have two picks now. This is of course we don’t go LB early.
Tim:
Misi playing with a high ankle sprain is not an excuse for his lack of quickness. If he lacked the quickness because of injury then our coaching staff is a bunch of morons who put a guy on the field who couldn’t play the position because of injury. More likely Misi is just not that quick and that can be exploited.
He’s more instinctual than quick, so i too would like to see if he can improve with more snaps in year two at the new position, more like year 1 1/2 due to lingering injury last year…lol
Have you ever tried to run with a sprained ankle? Players play through injuries all the time. We didn’t have many options at MLB. Ellerbe went down for the year in game1, Trusnik played hard but was limited and we signed Sheppard when Ellerbe went on IR. Tripp wasn’t ready.
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So for those keeping track at home, CB Bryce Callahan has now logged a low 4.3 40, 43.5″ vert and 11′ broad jump at Rice Pro Day today.
For you guys plugged into UGA football what was the issue with Wilson prior to the start of the season? He was knocked down to second string and was supposedly challenged by coaches on multiple occasions. Is there a question of work ethic and drive with him??? I like most of his play on the field.
14: R1P14 WR DEVANTE PARKER LOUISVILLE
47: R2P15 ILB DENZEL PERRYMAN MIAMI (FL)
114: R4P15 G ALI MARPET HOBART
149: R5P13 CB DORAN GRANT OHIO STATE
150: R5P14 WR JUSTIN HARDY EAST CAROLINA
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just have to laugh at anyone that is in an uproar over this. heard about this on two different radio stations today. first she is a comedian. second it is simple. dont do anything wrong.
I don’t get how Misi looked “natural” at MLB but not “instinctive”…aren’t they kind of synonymous?
At any rate, I think Misi is our MLB and will excel behind Suh, unless..we draft Kendricks..than they’ll both excel only Misi will be back at SOLB.
In my dream world that Kendricks pick comes on a trade back and with an extra #2 so we can still get an OL and a WR. 3 starters from first two rounds, 4 in first 3 rounds if you consider Stills.
a tarde back with Kendricks int he first would not be bad at all
I would say with the next 2 picks the targets would be OG/WR/CB and for Pig’s sake another LB
Me too, except I don’t think CB is as big a need as many others do. I think if it is, we’re kinda fucked because Grimes is another year or 2, and then we’re totally starting over with no young talent there. If Davis and/or Taylor aren’t ready yet, they’re not an answer at CB, and we have to find two high level starters in the next two years…..so…I’m hitching my wagon to Davis/Taylor and considering CB fairly set.
OD: Thank you again for this series — makes me realize how lucky we were. Our offensive line had 2 Hall of Famers – Jim Langer & Larry Little and I believe Bob Keuchenberg should have been voted in as well. That line was the best this franchise ever had. To have 6 players from the Super Bowl victory teams in the HOF is a great accomplishment. Manny Fernandez, Dick Anderson & Jake Scott could/should have been in the HOF as well IMO. We currently have ZERO future HOF players on offense; Suh & Brent Grimes are the only players on defense who may make it (I do not think Wake will). We need more talent not to mention way better coaching. We had great assistants like Howard Schnellenberger & Bill Arnsparger not to mention the legend Coach Shula. New England won with Brady & Gronk on offense; Wilfork may make HOF & possibly Revis – their HC – hate him as much as you want is a great coach. It’s simple – we need more talent & much better coaching. An undrafted rookie FA from a tiny school made the INT to win the Super Bowl for the Pats. He watched film and knew Wilson’s tendencies. The Pats are just a well coached team they can plug in pretty much anyone into their system and they still win.
Suh is the only current player with a resume trending towards the HOF. Grimes has no shot in hell unless he plays another 8yrs and makes the pro bowl each year and becomes a consensus all pro multiple times.
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I heard an interview with Tannenbaum from the owners meetings on Monday. He really impresses me. Among other things I learned: “Our goal is not just to be the best franchise in the NFL, it’s to be the best franchise in all of pro sports”. They have all kinds of analytics at work in the FO now which, as an old school Billy Beane fan…I’m in favor of. They have one employee who’s sole job is to do “Long term macro economic cap modeling”, so they can see needs (ideally) before they become pressing, and can structure contracts so that they don’t end up in a bind in one single cap year (unless, of course, that’s planned).
Interesting stuff. Suh and the FO reform this offseason really give me the impression that Mr. Ross is pulling out ALL the stops to make this team a contender again. I know there’s a “show me” crowd here, so lets wait til games start and watch before we pooh-pooh it eh? Can’t show you when there’s no games being played.
Tannebaum comes across well in an interview however, his track record is mixed. He got the Jets to 2 AFC championship games but he also put that team in cap hell and some mediocre seasons after that with some very questionable contracts. In particular the Sanchez contract which was once described as the worst contract in pro football.
Hence the one employee who’s sole job is to do “Long term macro economic cap modeling”, so they can see needs (ideally) before they become pressing, and can structure contracts so that they don’t end up in a bind in one single cap year.
I think it’s unfair to put all that on Tannenbaum, he was under pressure to do whatever Ryan wanted coming off those back to back appearances, and it was public knowledge that the Sanchez contract was something Ryan wanted to get done. That contract by itself put them in a cap bind, although, I’m not sure I can say a team who just managed to sign Revis was ever in “cap hell”.
Sometimes cap management means biting the bullet for a single year and that’s what they did in NY. Tannenbaum didn’t have Hickey and Phiblin to work with in NY, and he, btw, in that interview said they have a fantastic working relationship between the 3 of them.
LOL we don’t have a 7th round pick. I don’t know anything about Miles Dieffenbach other than he was the highest rated OL left on the board and I think his name SOUNDS like an OL.
Tannebaum isn’t the GM. He was only involved with the Suh signing being that it was the biggest signing in franchise history. He said on Finsiders after we signed Suh, he probably won’t be seeing much of Dennis and Dawn now. Hickey is the one working the phones, sitting down with free agents, discussing what the numbers are and introducing them to the media. Hickey has said he has to get the okay from Aponte on contract numbers though, if we can afford it etc. Hickey is basically the hunter for talent and there are people in place who crunch the numbers.
Dont’ know the guy from Iowa either. But yes, I love Parker and Gurley. And how about strongly like Gaines and Matias especially for where they would be drafted.
I really hope we can trade down to later in the 1st, then pick up a WR like Perriman or DGB, then hopefully have an extra 2nd or at least our 3rd back 7 and extra 4th.
This will gives us trading power to then move up some in the 2nd if we want Kendricks if he makes it past the 1st, or a good OL, or DB.
I wouldn’t doubt his times. The way I’ve seen him pull away from defenders is crazy. The times at the combine I don’t trust too much either….especially this year.
Who cares, shows he can get off the line of scrimmage. He’s not gonna be slow by any means. I like him more for his physical nature and his willingness to fight for the ball every play, and his YAC potential.
I don’t hate it, but I honestly don’t believe DGB is on our board at all. (Sorry GDP, that’s just my speculation on it, I don’t have a bad thing to say about his talent though!)
Mike E, Who cares Perriman’s 4.22-4.27 isn’t quite legit! It shows he can get off the line of scrimmage. He’s not gonna be slow by any means. I like him more for his physical nature and his willingness to fight for the ball every play, and his YAC potential.
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See what I mean, who gives a rat’s ass….that’s still way fast enough for a big strong receiver in anybody’s book. I hope we get a shot at keeping him in Fla.
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March 25, 2015 at 2:42 pm (Edit)
I never understand why guys run such different time at pro days than the combine
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I don’t trust pro day times as much as combine times. Pro days are being run by the school programs. They have a vested interest in trying to make their guys look as good as possible. The higher those guys get drafted the better they do recruiting wise. The combine is just trying to get the best possible info for the NFL with no vested interest in promoting one school or player over another.
But every single scout, coach and personnel man at the pro-day puts his own watch to it. That’s why the reports are a “range” of times between 2 points. Because they’re verified by many watches. What could be of issue is: Is it actually 40 yards and not 39.5 yards? Is it downhill? Downwind?
I don’t know what lengths schools go to to verify their 40 tracks at their prodays, but I’m sure these reports on Perriman are not merely telling you what his college coach timed him at.
I know that’s your opinion, but it’s highly speculative. I think Joe’s the type of guy who assesses each player individually and doesn’t rule anyone out without doing so. Also, that’s my opinion and also speculative. 🙂
It appears the 4.26 might have been his adjusted time:
We received a text message via a trusted NFL scout that, frankly, we had to check twice: He wrote that UCF wide receiver Breshad Perriman just ran a 4.15-second 40-yard dash at his pro day on Wednesday.
@AlbertBreer: Just got an unsolicited text from an exec: “Perriman ran really, really, really fast.” That’s Breshad, WR from UCF. Scouts buzzing on him.
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Breshad Perriman “ran” the 40 in 4.25 seconds. It was basically a broad jump from the starting line to the finish line. No need to worry about press coverage, he’ll leap past the competition. #1stPickInTheDraft
I also highly doubt we take DGB. I think it’s very unlikely. Only way I can see it happening is if one or more guys (maybe Tannenbaum and someone else) really like DGB, and all of the other highly rated WR’s are off the board.
I dunno man, you have to weigh it out and i think there is more chance of it thn you think. I dont think he would be a primary choice, i mean in case of DGB vs Parker, Cooper, or White, i think we and most other teams would select them over DGB. I do think though if they really feel we need a receiver at 14, they would select him if all other options were off the board. We will know for sure if they bring him in for a private workout, which i think would be more like an extended interview tryng to figure out where he is maturity wise. People fuck up, especially when they are young kids in college, our coaches know this and i think it would be more about where he is NOW vs where he WAS then.
“Then” wasn’t all that long ago. He’s been plagued by issues. Not just one, although the most recent involves the single biggest NFL hotbutton issue right now.
Tim Knight says:
March 25, 2015 at 1:45 pm
Thanks, Gigi. My friend Jim who’s been fighting brain cancer for over 5 years passed away yesterday. He was 49.
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Way too young to be dying. Im very sorry for your loss Tim, even more so for his family, especially kids if he had them. Beyond tragic.
He has a daughter who’s 5. He got the cancer when his wife was pregnant. He never really got to enjoy her the way he should have. That’s one of the things that makes it even sadder.
BTW, no fair comparing the two, I just meant in terms of a high risk/high reward player he reminded me of Cecil. Different infractions, different guys.
Washington (CNN)The U.S. military has charged Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl with one count each of desertion and misbehavior before the enemy, officials announced Wednesday afternoon.
Dollar to donuts that’s chart value. It cost a lot to move up in the first even just a few spots. Anything can and does happen on draft day. I would probably do it for just the second and maybe a 4th or 5th though…
I’ve never seen that kind of value for a trade like that. It would be almost impossible for a team to make that trade because it means someone fell and the team trading up really feels he’s special, that it would seem the team at #14 would just take that player or a team closer would look to trade up one or two spots. The only way it happens is if a team really overrates a prospect and does a stupid trade.
I think it’s absurd to trade a 2nd and a 3rd to go from 18 to 14.
getterdone says:
March 25, 2015 at 2:09 pm
Tannehill does too. He’s accomplished as much or more than Suh so far….just sayin.
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GDP: You think Tannehill has accomplished as much or is on the same level as Suh?!? Wow….I beg to differ.
Suh:
4× Pro Bowl (2010, 2012, 2013, 2014)
4× First-team All-Pro (2010, 2011, 2013, 2014)
Second-team All-Pro (2012)
AP NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year (2010)
NFL Alumni Defensive Lineman of the Year (2010)
Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Year (2010)
Sporting News Rookie of the Year (2010)
Pro Football Weekly Rookie of the Year (2010)
PFWA Rookie of the Year (2010)
College awards
I know Suh is the top in comparison to other DT’s…my comment on Tannehill was not based on writers awards. But what Tanehill has meant to his team. He’s accomplished a lot here, he’s broke a rookie record in his 4th game that bested Marino and he’s gotten better ever year stat wise, despite being behind the NFL’s worse OL.
I know stats don’t mean much @ Suh’s position cause he’s a block eater, but statistically, his best year was his rookie year. I hope he continues to do the dirty work for us and get us the ball back more often so Tanny can really show what he’s capable of. SO THERE! 😉
No signs before, none at all. This from a reporter that was following him in 2013 as part of an “in-depth interview” thing.
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I looked out the front window of the bar and saw Hernandez urinating on a running taxi cab, with the driver yelling at him. All I could think was, Great, Hernandez is going to get in trouble, and I’m going to have to write about this nonsense. I asked a confidant of his if he might want to go get his friend. “He won’t listen to me so why don’t you go get him?”
For some reason I didn’t think this to be unreasonable. I went outside, walked up to Hernandez and suggested he should probably use the restroom inside unless he wanted to get arrested. No response. Then I lightly touched his elbow to guide him back into the bar and said, “Aaron, come on. This is stupid.” At that point Hernandez whipped around, got in my face, unleashed a stream of expletives and concluded, “I’m not a child! You’re not my dad!”
My point is. I rather have a top QB than a top DT if you know what I mean. QB’s are more integral to winning the game because they touch the ball on every offensive snap.
The best scenario is having both a top 10 QB & top 10 DT. We’re close to having both….so that’s why I said the wins should start coming Gigi. We’ve been over 13 yrs & 17 QB’s since we last were a winning team without Don & Dan.
The Washington rumor about perhaps selecting a QB with pick 5 i think is mostly to drive up the value of their pick. Reason i say this is that i heard a couple of weeks ago they were looking to trade the pick to recoup some of the lost picks or draw out suitors for a player for picks trade. Tenn is doing a imilar thing by spreading rumors about not being satisfied with Mettenberger. Both are believable, but given the shopping the pick preceded the “we might take a QB” rumors, im leaning towards it being a trade bait tactic.
Tim,
I ran the numbers and actually it’s not even close to chart value. I think it’s unrealistic as well, though I think your logic has a flaw in it. Just because a team falls in love with a player doesn’t mean the team trading back would take that player instead. If some team fell in love with a player and gave a sweetheart offer, it’s not like the GM all of the sudden sees something he didn’t see before, he takes the sweetheart offer and gets the better of the trade.
Still though, the chart value of that trade is that the 2nd rounder alone would get it done..and then some, so I agree, it’s unrealistic.
My point was to make that trade you have to see something very special in the player and if that’s the case, they likely wouldn’t be the only team who sees that.
I think some are discounting the process. Philbin doesn’t like certain character traits, he wants guys o be hard working stand up people. It doesn’t however mean he misses the point that people do stupid shit sometimes and they can get wake-up calls that get their lives back in order. I dont think DGB offers the security that some of the players do in that respect, he comes with a reason to investigate him further, but i think that’s exactly what they will do and then they will make their decision off of that, not ignore him as a possibility all together just because he has a past.Half of these kids have pasts if ya dig deep enough, and i bet you a bunch are going to surface in the next month. Im not pushing for DGB, i have pretty much 4 other WR’s rated higher than him as far as who i would take for Phins, but i definitely think the talent is there and there is more credit to be given to the possibility we would select him at 14.
GDP SAYS “The wins should start coming, Gigi.” –Pray tell where have I heard those words before?? –Now we DO have an opportunity to plug our gaping holes in the O-Line (2 holes at guard), Linebacker (at least 1 hole), defensive back (ditto), fullback (someone who can convert 3rd and 2) and a tall, dominant WR who’s a red zone specialist. Some may say our biggest need is A HEAD COACH, but don’t go there b/c Ross loves Philbin. Well, even I can’t drink enough KOOL-Aid to believe the upcoming draft will supply instant upgrades at those positions of need. –And there’s sure as hell no improvement coming this season at head coach. So, yeah, a winning season and a playoff victory are REAL LIKELY, RIGHT?? How could ANYONE have any doubts??
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Patience, Old Dolfan, patience. Every franchise has a bad decade or two. Just be patient and everything will be OK.
Some think how they react to mediocrity from a professional team will actually change it, some know better it.
Some root for their team to be superbowl champions every single season even while others accuse them of “being ok with mediocrity”. Some think it’s cool to go around calling people “liars” at every opportunity too.
Sure is a great country that allows me to point out these things out.
Been looking at alot of WR film….I don’t think any of the WR at the top are worth trading up for (just sit and wait at 14 if WR is the target or trade back is what i mean).
Coates & Perriman both look like they have the strongest core strength of the WR in the top 15 WR discussion.
Baylor’s Antwan Goodley is interesting.
UGA’s Chris Conley is worth a look as a developmental guy just on sheer physical abilities (as with Smelter of GT).
I almost forgot about Cal WR Chris Harper who played with a bum QB (Jahn, what you think of him? He can really go up and get it at a high point though he’s light by NFL standards).
OD,
I certainly understand your frustration. I too came from the Perfect season era, that and the many Shula/Marino years have totally made us all spoiled lil brats. I must admit, I know I’m one.
The Browns fans, buddies of mine, are still so loyal, die hard, and happy to beat the Steelers, Ravens, or Bengals at least once a year or achieve a 8-8 record and they’re on cloud 9.
It’s become more just a ra ra entertainment thing in the modern FA era.
Back in the pre-FA era you could identify with your team more cause players were usually there for their entire career, so it became like family.
Now it’s all about selling high priced seats, huge advertising & merchandising, and Corporations entertaining clients or top level employees with blocks of prime tickets.
On top of that, the rules keep changing and refs skew games in order to keep that entertainment value/rating high. Very few people want to sit 3+ hours and watch a 9-6 defensive battle these days.
The integrity of the true game from days gone by are definitely GONE!
Gigi (@Mrs2620) says:
March 25, 2015 at 5:14 pm
FYI: The stuff out here is 1,000 x better than in Florida
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There is not even a debate about that Gigi! I lived there for two years, and have visited every few years or so as my brother lives out there.
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47: R2P15
RB TODD GURLEY
GEORGIA
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G ALI MARPET
HOBART
149: R5P13
OT SEAN HICKEY
SYRACUSE
150: R5P14
CB CHARLES GAINES
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First, they bring back “24” for a short season. Now, they are bringing back “The X Files” for a six episode arc. Neither are shows I ever really got into. However, if they’d do something similar with “Firefly”, I might arrange to watch that.. Browncoats- Unite!
why don’t you and your friends help the child during her lifetime. Birthdays, school projects, another words a life choice. My wife did this for walmart employee that was killed and he left behind a daughter. This kid will never go without with the funds from walmart foundation. My wife loves doing it and she says their is no more satisfaction than the time she spends with this kid and her mother . A group of you guys can make a major difference.
I struggle with this because I can’t stand Crowder. Crowder talks over everyone, and is notorious for saying stupid shit. So now he’s going to take McCain to task for a tweet?
This is a good lesson in (why not to use) twitter. He now has to defend himself from looking like he was defending a rapist and deal with pricks like Crowder when it would’ve been so easy to not say anything at all. Social media encourages social mistakes. Him making that tweet was case in point.
An Irish wake starts with a lot of “keening” which is wailing and mourning, but it quickly moves on to the party portion and it’s not a time for tears, it’s a time for celebrating the life of the deceased. I wish you +vibes while you go through this period of mourning, but I also wish you great memories and many smiles when you get to the point you’re ready to celebrate his life.
What’s up FUers? Just get me to the draft. Perriman blowing things up to date. I wonder if it makes a difference on the top 3 or 4 WRs in the draft. If that time was legit he just might be a 1st round talent and perhaps somebody like Devante Parker lands in our lap at 14.
I don’t know if that’s enough to push him into top 15 status, but if it were to drop one of the other top 3 guys to us, it’d be great. I think it’s more likely he goes in the first round now, but a one off 40 time seems like it shouldn’t be enough to change his fate all that much.
BTW I agree that it is unlikely to change the top 3 status but I wouldn’t mind if it did. I would love for either White, Cooper or Parker to fall to us.
I actually think Parker has a high ceiling
and has a lot of things he needs to work on
To me between Perriman and Parker it’s not even close
Parker by a mile
But Perriman may have moved himself ahead of Parker in the eyes of many scouts I’m pretty sure he moved ahead if Strong
I think your guy DGB and Perriman may bust up the whole order of he WRs in the draft
DGB and Perriman could easily push some other quality prospects down
I’m licking my chops at the prospect of drafting strong in the 2nd round
Perriman certainly helped himself today but I still think there is a bust factor with him. Smaller school, inconsistent hands but ceiling is high on the kid. I think he is my no. 5 WR in the draft. I would take in this order: Cooper, White, Parker and Strong before I take Perriman. But top of the draft for WR is looking real good right now.
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@Dan0933 lol you think I care. Darren sharper doesn’t deserve life while kids are on video tape unarmed CLEARLY and still being shot
UCF has impeccable facilities. They most likely ran in the indoor practice facility today. Between the indoor facility, the outdoor facilities, or even the stadium Perriman had a great surface to run on.
Now all of a sudden he’s in the conversation, lol, told you all along he was big and fast. Didn’t think he’d go that fast but he certainly always pulled away from anyone who was unfortunate enough to be behind him. And he’ll go make the tough yards over the middle too.
I wonder if J-ville says screw it and spends another 3rd pick (1st round) on a UCF’er to pair with Blake. Interesting.
Guys, don’t you think if Perriman & DGB push the other big WR’s down, that maybe they are better receivers??? Think about it, why be all excited about Strong then in the 2nd?…lol
But regardless, I think this is another deep WR class, should be something for most teams and the type of system they run or the type of body/speed they need.
Not necessarily. Certain teams and GMs fall in love with the measureables which is why guys like Darrius Heyward Bey get drafted really high but clearly was not the best WR in that draft.
But many GMs fall in love with them and you see the Darrius Heyward Bey’s and Mike Mamula’s of this world get drafted. So the 1/3 sometimes gets more weight than that.
I think we get ourselves so boxed in on here sometimes. It’s about talent in the first round if that meets need then fine but you have to get the best players in round one. Perriman, DGB, Gurley (assuming full recovery) are amazing athletes, the pros won’t miss that. And if you don’t think we take a DE watch Fowler slide a little, we’d pounce or watch Beasley make it to 14 – snag… yeah a lot will happen and it will be much different than what the FU scripted. It always is.
If Fowler or Beasley slide to 14 I can see us taking one of them. By all mocks I have seen they are both gone in the top 10. 5 DEs are consistently mocked in the top 10. I don’t see them there at 14.
I’m saying if Fowler slides past 5 someone, maybe us, will pounce up to get him. Not that the stej would trade with us but my point is Fowler will go super early or he becomes a steal.
Too much off the field risk for DGB to be the no. 1 WR drafted imo. Talent yes but with his domestic violence issues and the fact that it is a hot button issue for the league right now, I would be surprised if he is taken that early. My prediction, no. 32 to the Pats. It’s the kind of move that everyone fawns all over Bellicheck for.
Yessssss. I am big fan of Amare Cooper. Most complete and polished WR of the draft. May not have the upside of White but I think he can play at a high level from day 1.
No because the film on him would tell any D to not let him get behind you. You can’t jump routes when he’ll beat you deep. He’s fluid with that short area quickness to get a move on a guy.
Thanks, Jahn. The services are Saturday and a friend of ours’ band is playing that night at one of our old stomping grounds. He was actually a drummer in a band I was in many moons ago. We’re trying to get a bunch of us there after the services.
My group of friends were all about getting a nice buzz and laughing, and that’s what we’ll do. We have hundreds of stories over the years that we’ll reminisce about. We will celebrate our time with Jim and try to grieve in a positive way. Part of the problem for us is he’s the first to go from our big group so it’s new to us and very difficult.
I just lost my uncle who I was very close to so the feeling of mortality is still very real to me and I personally am trying to come to grips with life and what it’s all about.
I would not be surprised if we traded up for Aamri Cooper. I think he’s Landry ready but more gifted in size and speed. He would make us better right away. You want a jolt of now, he’s even better than Keenan Allen out of the gate.
Tim,
I’m just catching up and was saddened to see that you lost a friend. A few years ago, I went through losing a friend I’d grown up with from birth through high school. I had a huge crush on her, and she was actually the first girl to kiss me…on a school bus in, like, 5th grade. She was also the first to pass from our class…at 44.
The morning I found out about it, I was sitting in a staff meeting at work. In a daze, I found myself getting up and going out into the hallway…and crying for 5 minutes. Her death hit me harder than I could’ve imagined. It was a changing point in the lives of many of her friends, as we came to find out as we reminisced. The unfairness, the mortality, the realness of death…as if we had all been slapped in the face by life and didn’t much like it.
Later, we were all able to smile…and remember her laugh…how she always seemed to be happy….a woman everyone liked. A friend.
I think we’re going for it this year. Signed Suh and next is Tannehill. Don’t pay a 2016 1st round pick.
The #14 and next years #1 to go up up and get Cooper. He reminds me of Boldin and Wayne combined. He’s a bigger and faster version of Landry. He would make us very difficult to defend.
Landry, Cameron/Sims, Stills, Cooper, and Miller/Williams could be a really good offense.
When you get right down to it, what is the pick, the FA or the player acquired through the draft? What does he do for us? Cooper is the perfect fit for what we’re running in Miami.
I know some are saying WTF, Tim, but do you want to win or keep developing?
I have a gut feeling Cooper will be good wherever he goes.
“What do we do best against Buffalo?” “That’s easy. The thing we do best is running the football.” said Schnellenberger. “Then THAT’s what we’re going to do,” said the Don of Miami. Together, the two coaches developed a strategy they originally sprang on the Houston Oilers in week #2; the “3-Back Attack.” A few new wrinkles were added to the mix. But the philosophy was “We’re going to run the ball until forced to do something else.”
On Miami’s second play, Mercury Morris swept around right end and ran 33 yards down to the Bills’ 20. Yepremian’s 33-yard field goal gave the Dolphins a quick 3-0 lead. Buffalo responded. A 13-yard touchdown pass, Dennis Shaw to Randy Jackson, put the Bills ahead 6-3 after a missed PAT. Now was the time to put the “3-Back Attack” into high gear. On the next drive, Jim Kiick and Larry Csonka combined for four carries for 25 yards. Then Morrall connected with tight end Jim Mandich for 13 yards to the Buffalo 22. Next, Morrall handed-off to Morris on a play designed to go off right tackle. The hole was jammed, so Morris sprinted outside and burst to the 10 where the Bills’ Robert James and Maurice Tyler were waiting for him. Morris juked James, bounced-off Tyler, and sped into the end zone for a 10-6 Miami advantage!
Nice write OD! I was unaware that OJ never beat the Dolphins- that’s incredible.
But he could sure beat his wife. Just proves that the more money you have, the more “innocent” you can be.
OD, I remember when the Dolphins played in Buffalo, the Bills fans always had someone with a big sign: “Miami has the Oranges, We Have The Juice”
Here’s what O.J. looked like after this game with the Dolphins:
I’m sure you all saw this:
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Interested to learn the #Dolphins finished 2nd to the #Seahawks in the Jimmy Graham trade. MIA was aggressive in trying to upgrade at TE.
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No biggie either way. They swung for an All pro TE and came up short. Looking at it, this team felt they needed an above the rim player at TE. If Cameron can stay healthy he has a very similar skillset.
… plus, Grahams contract, yikes. BUT… our front office knows we need elite athletes who cover up mistakes of others with their talent! I like the aggressiveness.
Athletes not to really cover for mistakes, but rather give a much bigger window to make a big play.
Good write OD
Actually judging by the players we brought in at TE&WR It appears the team thought we needed more competitive players who fight for the high point and contested balls. Very inconsistent at this last year outside of Landry.
That is where Jaelen Strong fits in….lol
Nelson Agholor, Justin Hardy, Deandre Smelter, Kasen Williams, Austin Hill, Perrimen, etc. There’s some good guys who compete for contested throws.
ANY DAY THAT STARTS WITH A MIAMI VICTORY OVER BUFFALO IS A GOOD DAY!!!!!!! – – -Howard Schnellenberger’s belief that “this Dolphins team was unstoppable” was shared by every player on the squad and was a key element to the singular achievement of THE PERFECT SEASON!! – – – EAT IT, BREATH IT. SLEEP IT. –The PERFECT SEASON IS OURS TO ENJOY!!
PS: Thanks to all of you for the kind comments. They mean a lot.
OD, yessss. I remember how OJ Simpson would run wild on every team the Bills played….with the exception of ONE…our Miami Dolphins!
Go Phins!
OD, maybe one of your grandsons or great grandsons will be posting in the future about ‘The Road To Perfection’ Part Deaux of the 2017 Dolphins 🙂
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I got all excited only to find out I’d found fools gold – it was corn
Dolphins Win – The Dolphins win again. Paving the road to perfection!
Thanks OD
The Dolphins ar 8-0
So nice to hear
I want to hear it again
Thanks for thre write up OD
PHOENIX — The NFL adopted a new player-safety rule on Tuesday that could potentially have prevented Julian Edelman’s late-game heroics in last month’s Super Bowl.
The NFL’s owners unanimously passed Resolution G-2, in which the concussion spotters in the press box at each game now have the ability to directly contact the officials on the field and call for a medical timeout if a player shows “obvious signs of disorientation or is clearly unstable” and it becomes apparent that the player will remain in the game.
According to the language of the rule, “Upon being called by the ATC Spotter, the side judge will immediately stop the game, go to the player in question, and await the arrival of the team’s medical personnel to ensure that the player is attended to and escorted off the field. The game and play clock will stop [if running], and remain frozen until the player is removed from the game.”
Rest of the Rule Changes & Proposals are here:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/03/24/nfl-passes-julian-edelman-rule/ECLaeQDYH9rRzNjefh0dlN/story.html
Thank you all for your kind words.
Sorry for your loss.
Will be very interested to see how Perriman’s pro-day goes today.
His stock has been dropping
Undeservingly so IMO
It’s because they didn’t see him at the combine. Saw an article this morning that with a good workout they have him as a fringe 1st round guy.
Typical response to not having overwhelming measureables and speed etc. That doesn’t change the type of player he is.
1. The Breshad Perriman train is about to pick up steam… (March 25).
After straining his hamstring during Combine training, Perriman wasn’t cleared to run in Indianapolis and chose not to lift on the bench press, making his pro day a must-see event for NFL scouts. He is very well-liked in NFL circles with his size/athleticism combination so teams are eager to put testing numbers next to his name to see how it matches up with his film. Despite losing 2014 first round pick Blake Bortles at quarterback, Perriman had his most productive season as a junior and proved to be a big-play threat at every level of the field as the starting “X” receiver. With a good showing at Central Florida’s pro day, many around the league think its possible Perriman could sneak into the top-20 picks.
We are talking about Breshad, right?????
I thought you meant Denzel
breshad’s stock is rising
My bad I was talking about Perryman the LB. I see him consistently ranked 2-3 rounds.
LOL…..its that damn Perriman/ Perryman thing😆
OD, good stuff once again. Love the “3-Back Attack”.
You guys think Perriman is worthy of the #14 pick?
No
and I mean neither of them are
If you had to pick, who do you think we take?
I don’t think he is as Polished as the top two. His physical upside is outstanding & he appears to be very mature and grounded which is probably helped by his father. If he hits his ceiling he can be the best WR of this class.
Tim
I think Kendricks and Parker are the top 2 candidates at #14 given who I expect to be there
But I think strong should be consdiered to
and if Scherf is there I would consider him
Keviv White would be a dream
Just don’t pay them. The Perriman/Perrymans that is. 😉
Can we at least fix a price?
Tim Knight says:
March 25, 2015 at 9:48 am
If you had to pick, who do you think we take?
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With this team in particular I could see them going after Agholor before either. If it was my choice I take Perriman over Strong, but I like the upside of both.
At #14?
Agholor yes, but not the other 2…..just my take.
I am actually starting to like Funchess more than Perriman or even Agholor. I went back and watched video on Funchess over the weekend and talk about a guy who can high point a ball it’s Funchess. I have been wary of him because of talk to make him a TE but I like him as a WR and think he can be a real red zone weapon. I still like Strong better than Funchess. I think Funchess is a round 2 value.
Great job once again OD! The Perfect Season continues!
Perriman isn’t worthy of the #14, but I do think he’s a legit 2nd RD pick.
Maybe Collins at #14 and Perriman, Agholor, Coates etc. in the 2nd.
That’s the deal right there Tim. That’s exactly how I would like it to go. I think that makes us a much better team. Fix the O-line, and then get another weapon for Tannehill.
Keep Hardy in there also.
I was listening to Pat Kirwan, and he was talking about the Giants, and he recommended the Giants take one of the Collins boys, either Landon or La’el, and that’s at #9. Collins might fall to us, but I’d be surprised.
Hardy 2nd RD D-Bolt? I think that’s too early
His game tape says he is but his measureables and speed says no. But Landry was a 2nd rd pick and he wasn’t a workout warrior either.
Speed thing was a little oversold also. He ran a 4.55 at the combine & that’s with them having timing issues evident from readjusting Amare Coopers 40 from a 4.43 and telling teams he was between a 4.35 & 4.38.
As I said many times…He’s an Anyonio Brown clone. All time receptions leader in D1 history. Big hands, solid vertical, elite route runner, Elite RAC ability….Why I view him as a 2nd round prospect.
Dbolt, Hardy is an etc. LOL
Big day for all of the UCF hopefuls. Perriman should knock it out of the park.
Clayton Geathers is a solid prospect at Safety, he led the combine for DB’s in the bench press (22) and the verticle (37″). He was a hawk in his 4 years here. Rannel Hall the “other” WR is so under the radar but he’s a great route runner and has excellent hands. He and Perriman were an outstanding receiving duo.
My man Terrance Plummer is a nice prospect at linebacker as well, he always seemed to be around the ball and he would lay the wood.
All four are legit NFL prospects and I’d love to get any of them on the Fins.
Rannell Hall with the beatdown:
Somebody call for a Plummer?
Geathers with the slam down:
Your score is: 6228 (GRADE: B+)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 14: La’el Collins, OT/OG, LSU (A)
Round 2 Pick 15: Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Oklahoma (A)
Round 4 Pick 15: Jordan Hicks, OLB, Texas (B)
Round 5 Pick 13: Charles Gaines, CB, Louisville (B+)
Round 5 Pick 14: MyCole Pruitt, TE, Southern Illinois (A)
Round 6 Pick 15: Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (B+)
I could actually see something like that. Pruitt has Clay like skills.
I think so too Tim, regarding the Clay comparison
Mike E. says:
March 25, 2015 at 10:24 am
Hardy 2nd RD D-Bolt? I think that’s too early
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Tim Knight says:
March 25, 2015 at 10:34 am
His game tape says he is but his measureables and speed says no. But Landry was a 2nd rd pick and he wasn’t a workout warrior either.
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Id actually make that comparison as well. Hardy isnt elite level speed. but he like Landry catches everything thrown to him and he has traits that help him gain separation on receivers despite not having great straight line speed. I think a lot here mistake the fact that a receiver without blazing speed can be successful, or at least if they aren’t blazing fast they got to be BIG. Its just not true. Hardy is one of the better receivers i have seen.
Ill put it another way. Amari Cooper was matched up on Vernon Hargreaves (UF CB, considered to be among the nations best) and Cooper had success in that game but generally when he crossed the safeties zone. Almost all the catches, save one very good TD reception was away from Hargreaves, and Hargreaves kept him in check most the game. Cooper is considered perhaps the top receiver in the draft at getting open (also without elite speed or size mind you) Hardy gave Hargreaves more fits in the Birmingham Bowl game i watched first hand. Hargreaves wound up saving the day on an beautiful end zone interception in front of Hardy, but most the game Hardy was just getting open on him. I bet if you asked Hargreaves who his toughest opponent he faced was, he probably names Cooper and Hardy in the same breath.
Hardy is smaller school, he doesn’t have the elite markers some of the other receivers have, but i could easily see him going late second, or 3rd round just off game tape and the insane stats he put up, 10 TD’s 1494 yards and a 12 YPC average.
dbolt48 says:
March 25, 2015 at 10:41 am
As I said many times…He’s an Anyonio Brown clone. All time receptions leader in D1 history. Big hands, solid vertical, elite route runner, Elite RAC ability….Why I view him as a 2nd round prospect.
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I really like him as well. If i cant have Parker, Id take him and then get a bigger guy like Waller later. More i look at Waller the more i really like the idea of him and lining him up all over the place, especially when we are in the RZ.
Mr. Hand, thanks for giving me wood with your DGB pick in the 2nd round! 😉
No problem
dbolt48 says:
March 25, 2015 at 9:22 am
Nelson Agholor, Justin Hardy, Deandre Smelter, Kasen Williams, Austin Hill, Perrimen, etc. There’s some good guys who compete for contested throws.
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I’m glad to see Hill getting some love around here!
If his foot is 100% he is a beast!
Take a look @Dres Anderson before the knee blow-out!
I like what I saw of Dres, he’s a late round type now after the injury.
Two things I wouldn’t rule out:
1. Us moving up to get Cooper or White
2. Us taking a DE at 14
I’d rule out #2…IMHO….we have Wake ( I know, he;s gonna need to be replaced soon), Vernon, Jordan, Fede, Shelby
I can’t see 2. happening.
That #2 SMELLS BAD! 😉
Thanks OD for another awesome story!
Son:
I have a hard time seeing us go DE at 14. There are 5 elite pass rushing prospects. All are projected to go before 14. I think at 14 we are likely to go WR, OL or DB.
Drafting a DE or DT in RD 1 would certainly be an eye opener but considering how the investments have been done so far, I’d say there’s a low chance of that happening. At least at Pick 14 (who knows in a trade down scenario).
CB, WR, OL, LB is likely the position to be filled with pick 14 or anything in the top 20.
Looks like we brought in Ramik Wilson for a private workout. He’s my fallback option for us at ILB were we not able to get the top teir guys like Perryman, Kendricks, McKinney.
This is my ILB top 5 in order.
McKinney
Kendricks
Perryman
Anthony
Wilson
Speaking of DL, I’m big on Za’Darius Smith. Huge motor.
If one of those top 5 DE’s falls to 14 and the top 3 WR’s have already been picked then that would likely be the BPA.
…or a great trade down situation…I hope that happens.
Takes two to tango, and a good deal
Son, I see a DE with a later pick being possible, and for sure a priority FA after the draft to put on our PS.
GDP,
Do you believe Fins draft a CB in RD 1 or 2?
I think if we do we are essentially cutting either Taylor or Davis which is possible as they are Ireland picks.
No need to cut either of them.
At this point for CB I’m expecting Marcus Peters. Great off the ball instincts
I agree with Al on the positions (CB, WR, OL, LB) we’re likely to draft not only at #14 but throughout the draft.
D:
I like Ramik Wilson a lot. I am glad to see we are bringing him in for a workout.
nice write OD. i am beginning to think the fins will never lose in this series you are writing.
Al,
good question on do I see us taking a CB in 1-2nd rd. A lot depends on what the coaches think of where Tayor & Davis are at, and even Aiken our 4th round pick last year.
But they could in the first if they think Tre Waynes is that much heads and trails above the rest, of course if a big WR like White is still on the board, then I’d hope we go there.
After signing FA CB McCain, I think that gives us a bit of the luxury of waiting till the later rounds to develop someone if we have greater needs or great BPA type that fill those needs in rounds 1 & 2.
Yeah you don’t have to take corners high in the draft to find quality players.
D
You have McKinney as your top ranked ILB?
I like McKinney but I think just think he is an OLB at the next level
Hickey does like him those SEC players
So bringing in Ramik Wilson makes sense
son of a son of a shula says:
March 25, 2015 at 11:34 am
I think if we do we are essentially cutting either Taylor or Davis which is possible as they are Ireland picks.
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They are still cheap but their rookie contracts will expire after next season and Grimes is on borrowed time (2 years max) given age/salary.
They can go the route of bringing in a veteran (like Finnegan last year) on a short term contract to add depth in case injuries happen to Davis/Taylor/Grimes but more quality DB are needed (the younger cheaper kind)
Phins brought in Eric Rowe for a workout, they may like him if they can get him in the 4th, probably about where they project him.
BTW, I really like the size of Rowe, and the speed and vertical for this big DB is nice. He’s also versatile, has played both @ S & CB.
Yeah i see a lot of people suggesting he and Cordy Glenn both move to S, or play that Wilson role of being able to flip between the positions.
I have McKinney as my top ILB due to fact his size and athleticism are traits you cant teach and all his flaws even from ILB position are teachable. I think he may not be the best hit the ground running guy, and yes might likely have to be started at a OLB position before being moved inside but i think his potential exceeds all the others in the long run.
Ramik is no slouch either, i mean early in the year he was being talked about as potentially a top guy and i think only through the efforts of the others has he kinda slid out of the spotlight. I have no doubts he will be a good ILB some day, but i will admit he, like McKinney could need to start at OLB to get game experience before moving to ILB. He has good size for the position being 6’3 248, so again, traits you cant teach. He isn’t as athletic as McKinney, or probably Kendrick or Anthony, but he, i think develops into a very nice player.
Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
I asked Dennis Hickey what he looks for in a tailback & he said TOUGHNESS is No.1. Natural vision is 2nd, center of gravity/balance is 3rd.
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This is why he liked what I saw in Damien Williams.
I honestly think forall of the ILB prospects, they would probably need to start at OLB or rotate in at OLB. I think Misi is going to have to stay put at ILB while these guys acclimate and i think that may be the best plan anyways. By mid year maybe give the guy a shot at the inside, but 4-3 MLB is a hard position to step in green, not yet up to NFL speed, or any exposure to NFL formations. I think all of the would survive there, especially since Suh is going to give them a little more ease of acclimation, but smarter move probably is OLB or slowly rotating them into the ILB position through the course of the year.
D
I tend to think Perryman or Kendricks can start at MLB on day 1
I agree that Suh makes everyone’s job a little easier
Misi is kind of a luxury
even though he isn;t healthy he can’t help us ease a player in
but he can do that inside or outside
I want to draft 2 LBs
1 to play inside and 1 to play outside
and if they need a little time I think Misi is a big asset to the team
Not sure we need to draft 2. Plus Philbin seems convinced Misi to remain @ MLB, will improve in his 2nd year there. I also expect to see Tripp & McPain emerge in their 2nd year like Jelani has.
Ken,
I think the TE class is underrated.
Wes Saxson is an Hback type
Blake Bell is still vanilla at TE but has good feet for short space and to me is Amaro like but higher ceiling.
i really like Bell, he could be a steal if on the board in the 5th where we have 2 picks.
He’ll take 2 years to develop, but he’ll be a good one. Reminds me of my likes of Travis Kelce back when he was in the draft.
There is no one in the TE class that screams impact player. I am not saying there are not some prospects out there that can in turn into a quality player but we are not going to find the next Jimmy Graham or Gronk in this year’s draft. BTW I like the Belldozer too. Very versatile guy and he can always be used for specialty plays as well. He has a decent arm.
GDP,
Todd Gurley (great toughness)
Cameron Artis-Payne (great vision)
…..
Even though Misi has been banged up the last few years, it’s not like he can’t have a good season and not have a high ankle sprain all season this year.
He lacks the quickness for the position and I have seen teams exploit that last year.
Because he played on a high ankle sprain since game 1.
To me LB is one of the easiest positions to draft to plug and play right away.
You can find a 100 tackle guy in year 1.
Chris Borland. Oh wait a minute.
LOL.
Chris Perkins ✔ @chrisperk
#Dolphins coach Joe Philbin says WR Kenny Stills runs routes Ryan Tannehill excels at throwing
Translation: He is not Mike Wallace.
The 10-15 yard variety
Lol! Check yourself- you’ll have Tanneshills nipping your ass.
getterdone says:
March 25, 2015 at 12:27 pm
BTW, I really like the size of Rowe, and the speed and vertical for this big DB is nice. He’s also versatile, has played both @ S & CB.
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I guess the Aiken mold.
I’d me more comfortable just seeing the Fins take Holliman but whatever the team gets they get. 😛
Ken,
I like Clive Walford much, same for Maxx & Heuermann (Heath Miller clone).
There okay prospects but hard to get too excited about any of them.
Tim,
Misi looks natural at MLB to me but the problems he had last year were instinctual.
He took some bad angles guessing on direction and to me he has to cut that shit out.
But he was new to it and so maybe he grows with more games seeing the field from that position.
I think it’s fair to expect that there would be a learning curve.
I like Jake Ryan to groom for our MLB spot, he can also play outside…is solid in both run & coverage support. He’s another guy I’d look hard at if he’s there in the 5th where we have two picks now. This is of course we don’t go LB early.
Tim:
Misi playing with a high ankle sprain is not an excuse for his lack of quickness. If he lacked the quickness because of injury then our coaching staff is a bunch of morons who put a guy on the field who couldn’t play the position because of injury. More likely Misi is just not that quick and that can be exploited.
He’s more instinctual than quick, so i too would like to see if he can improve with more snaps in year two at the new position, more like year 1 1/2 due to lingering injury last year…lol
Have you ever tried to run with a sprained ankle? Players play through injuries all the time. We didn’t have many options at MLB. Ellerbe went down for the year in game1, Trusnik played hard but was limited and we signed Sheppard when Ellerbe went on IR. Tripp wasn’t ready.
Tim, this might cheer you up a tad…This Bud’s for you! 😉
LOL
Kyle Crabbs @NDTScouting · 18m18 minutes ago
So for those keeping track at home, CB Bryce Callahan has now logged a low 4.3 40, 43.5″ vert and 11′ broad jump at Rice Pro Day today.
For you guys plugged into UGA football what was the issue with Wilson prior to the start of the season? He was knocked down to second string and was supposedly challenged by coaches on multiple occasions. Is there a question of work ethic and drive with him??? I like most of his play on the field.
Tim: I don’t know who you lost but I’m sending my condolences to you.
Thanks, Gigi. My friend Jim who’s been fighting brain cancer for over 5 years passed away yesterday. He was 49.
Gotta go to work!
Later Haters
14: R1P14 WR DEVANTE PARKER LOUISVILLE
47: R2P15 ILB DENZEL PERRYMAN MIAMI (FL)
114: R4P15 G ALI MARPET HOBART
149: R5P13 CB DORAN GRANT OHIO STATE
150: R5P14 WR JUSTIN HARDY EAST CAROLINA
190: R6P15 S ADRIAN AMOS PENN ST
That could be one helluva draft there.
just have to laugh at anyone that is in an uproar over this. heard about this on two different radio stations today. first she is a comedian. second it is simple. dont do anything wrong.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3010817/Online-backlash-comedian-tweets-Ten-Rape-Prevention-Tips-aimed-attackers.html
She is coming under fire on “twitter” which is key
b/c twitter is full of soap box standing assholes
Yes sir.
Tim, just read about your friend Jim. RIP Jim +vibes to you and the rest of his friends and family.
Thanks, bro.
Al,
I don’t get how Misi looked “natural” at MLB but not “instinctive”…aren’t they kind of synonymous?
At any rate, I think Misi is our MLB and will excel behind Suh, unless..we draft Kendricks..than they’ll both excel only Misi will be back at SOLB.
In my dream world that Kendricks pick comes on a trade back and with an extra #2 so we can still get an OL and a WR. 3 starters from first two rounds, 4 in first 3 rounds if you consider Stills.
Would be nice.
a tarde back with Kendricks int he first would not be bad at all
I would say with the next 2 picks the targets would be OG/WR/CB and for Pig’s sake another LB
Me too, except I don’t think CB is as big a need as many others do. I think if it is, we’re kinda fucked because Grimes is another year or 2, and then we’re totally starting over with no young talent there. If Davis and/or Taylor aren’t ready yet, they’re not an answer at CB, and we have to find two high level starters in the next two years…..so…I’m hitching my wagon to Davis/Taylor and considering CB fairly set.
OD: Thank you again for this series — makes me realize how lucky we were. Our offensive line had 2 Hall of Famers – Jim Langer & Larry Little and I believe Bob Keuchenberg should have been voted in as well. That line was the best this franchise ever had. To have 6 players from the Super Bowl victory teams in the HOF is a great accomplishment. Manny Fernandez, Dick Anderson & Jake Scott could/should have been in the HOF as well IMO. We currently have ZERO future HOF players on offense; Suh & Brent Grimes are the only players on defense who may make it (I do not think Wake will). We need more talent not to mention way better coaching. We had great assistants like Howard Schnellenberger & Bill Arnsparger not to mention the legend Coach Shula. New England won with Brady & Gronk on offense; Wilfork may make HOF & possibly Revis – their HC – hate him as much as you want is a great coach. It’s simple – we need more talent & much better coaching. An undrafted rookie FA from a tiny school made the INT to win the Super Bowl for the Pats. He watched film and knew Wilson’s tendencies. The Pats are just a well coached team they can plug in pretty much anyone into their system and they still win.
Suh is the only current player with a resume trending towards the HOF. Grimes has no shot in hell unless he plays another 8yrs and makes the pro bowl each year and becomes a consensus all pro multiple times.
Tannehill does too. He’s accomplished as much or more than Suh so far….just sayin.
Tim: Man I am sorry that is terrible. 😦
Yeah it’s awful.
Andrew Abramson ✔ @AbramsonPBP
A reporter just called Lovie Smith a defensive guru. He responded “I haven’t heard that one in a while. You know I was 2-14 last season?”
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At least Lovie has a sense of humor….lol
I heard an interview with Tannenbaum from the owners meetings on Monday. He really impresses me. Among other things I learned: “Our goal is not just to be the best franchise in the NFL, it’s to be the best franchise in all of pro sports”. They have all kinds of analytics at work in the FO now which, as an old school Billy Beane fan…I’m in favor of. They have one employee who’s sole job is to do “Long term macro economic cap modeling”, so they can see needs (ideally) before they become pressing, and can structure contracts so that they don’t end up in a bind in one single cap year (unless, of course, that’s planned).
Interesting stuff. Suh and the FO reform this offseason really give me the impression that Mr. Ross is pulling out ALL the stops to make this team a contender again. I know there’s a “show me” crowd here, so lets wait til games start and watch before we pooh-pooh it eh? Can’t show you when there’s no games being played.
I prefer the term “show me” when I am in strip club
I hope those Chip’ N Dales comply to your request😜
Tannebaum comes across well in an interview however, his track record is mixed. He got the Jets to 2 AFC championship games but he also put that team in cap hell and some mediocre seasons after that with some very questionable contracts. In particular the Sanchez contract which was once described as the worst contract in pro football.
Hence the one employee who’s sole job is to do “Long term macro economic cap modeling”, so they can see needs (ideally) before they become pressing, and can structure contracts so that they don’t end up in a bind in one single cap year.
I think it’s unfair to put all that on Tannenbaum, he was under pressure to do whatever Ryan wanted coming off those back to back appearances, and it was public knowledge that the Sanchez contract was something Ryan wanted to get done. That contract by itself put them in a cap bind, although, I’m not sure I can say a team who just managed to sign Revis was ever in “cap hell”.
Sometimes cap management means biting the bullet for a single year and that’s what they did in NY. Tannenbaum didn’t have Hickey and Phiblin to work with in NY, and he, btw, in that interview said they have a fantastic working relationship between the 3 of them.
Here is my second try at a mock draft.
14: R1P14 -WR DEVANTE PARKER -LOUISVILLE
47: R2P15 RB TODD GURLEY -GEORGIA
114: R4P15 -G JOSUE MATIAS -FLORIDA STATE
149: R5P13 -CB CHARLES GAINES -LOUISVILLE
150: R5P14 -DT LOUIS TRINCA-PASAT -IOWA
190: R6P15 -G MILES DIEFFENBACH -PENN STATE
I couldn’t get white this time, but still got the gurley man.
what do you guys think?
Love rounds 1,2, 4 and 5. Don’t know much about 6 and 7.
Supposed to be in response to Rock above.
LOL we don’t have a 7th round pick. I don’t know anything about Miles Dieffenbach other than he was the highest rated OL left on the board and I think his name SOUNDS like an OL.
He is Dieffen a good pick
Tannebaum isn’t the GM. He was only involved with the Suh signing being that it was the biggest signing in franchise history. He said on Finsiders after we signed Suh, he probably won’t be seeing much of Dennis and Dawn now. Hickey is the one working the phones, sitting down with free agents, discussing what the numbers are and introducing them to the media. Hickey has said he has to get the okay from Aponte on contract numbers though, if we can afford it etc. Hickey is basically the hunter for talent and there are people in place who crunch the numbers.
I think with the addition of rnd 1,2&4 our offense would REALLY become explosive. (as apposed to the typical implosive one we have had)
I like Parker and Gurley
but you have to admit, Gurley has big question matrks as to his health
I like Charles Gaines a lot
would probably be a natural fit and would compete push Taylor
So Ken likes all of my picks (loves them he said) except my 6th round linemen. I would call that a successful draft.
Dont’ know the guy from Iowa either. But yes, I love Parker and Gurley. And how about strongly like Gaines and Matias especially for where they would be drafted.
@nfldraftscout: So that’s why 1st rd talk started. Damn. RT @Rand_Getlin: Former #UCF WR Breshad Perriman just ran a 4.26 forty at his pro day
My man!
Well now he is a first rounder
and will probably be picked before Strong
That’s an amazing run at any size let alone 214lbs
wow, FAST
Piggy likes my 6th rounder so I think I did pretty good. (No pitchforks and torches so far)
I actually don;t know a thing about him
but I Deiffen wouldn’t throw him Bach if we picked him
LOL his name just sounds like a HOF linemen. (6th rounder, LOL)
@UCF_Football: Here it is! Breshad Perriman’s 40 which was clocked between 4.22-4.27! #UCFproday #BuiltByUCF https://t.co/foa0UKnPc6
perriman was available in the 2nd when I took Gurley. But I had already taken Parker and couldn’t take two WR in a row.
I never understand why guys run such different time at pro days than the combine
Combine times were messed up this year. In terms of Perriman he didn’t run at the combine.
I really hope we can trade down to later in the 1st, then pick up a WR like Perriman or DGB, then hopefully have an extra 2nd or at least our 3rd back 7 and extra 4th.
This will gives us trading power to then move up some in the 2nd if we want Kendricks if he makes it past the 1st, or a good OL, or DB.
excuse the typos.
Perriman is obviously fast but I doubt his times at his pro day would be the same as at the combine.
I wouldn’t doubt his times. The way I’ve seen him pull away from defenders is crazy. The times at the combine I don’t trust too much either….especially this year.
Who cares, shows he can get off the line of scrimmage. He’s not gonna be slow by any means. I like him more for his physical nature and his willingness to fight for the ball every play, and his YAC potential.
Your score is: 6374 (GRADE: A-)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 14: La’el Collins, OT/OG, LSU (A)
Round 2 Pick 18 (BUF): Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Oklahoma (A)
Round 3 Pick 17 (BUF): Denzel Perryman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.) (B)
Round 5 Pick 13: MyCole Pruitt, TE, Southern Illinois (A)
Round 5 Pick 14: Kurtis Drummond, FS, Michigan State (A)
Round 6 Pick 15: Craig Mager, CB, Texas State (C)
I’m sure the Bills give up a 3rd to move up 4 spots….lol
I don’t hate it, but I honestly don’t believe DGB is on our board at all. (Sorry GDP, that’s just my speculation on it, I don’t have a bad thing to say about his talent though!)
That 4.22 is nonsense. Probably a 4.4
LOL…..Denial😄
Mike E, Who cares Perriman’s 4.22-4.27 isn’t quite legit! It shows he can get off the line of scrimmage. He’s not gonna be slow by any means. I like him more for his physical nature and his willingness to fight for the ball every play, and his YAC potential.
Can he break press coverage easily? Haven’t watched much film on him…..
Yes
His biggest flaw is he can have a concentration drop or try running before he secures the ball.
If that’s the time they give as his 40 time….then it’s legit. We’ll see if they adjust it after the pro day.
40 times over rated anyway. At least it says he’s fast enough. Now the hard stuff. Route running? I liked your response on press coverage btw….
Direct and to the point😀
Jahn, DGB is on our board…Bazooka Joe saw him picking up a gum wrapper on the track @ the combine before he ran. Was love at first site! http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/drague/amour/vil2_bemine.gif
Ian Wharton @NFLFilmStudy
I had 4.41 “@UCF_Football: Here it is! Breshad Perriman’s 40 which was clocked between 4.22-4.27! https://vine.co/v/O35ddHeUur6 ”
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See what I mean, who gives a rat’s ass….that’s still way fast enough for a big strong receiver in anybody’s book. I hope we get a shot at keeping him in Fla.
The Flying Pig says:
March 25, 2015 at 2:42 pm (Edit)
I never understand why guys run such different time at pro days than the combine
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I don’t trust pro day times as much as combine times. Pro days are being run by the school programs. They have a vested interest in trying to make their guys look as good as possible. The higher those guys get drafted the better they do recruiting wise. The combine is just trying to get the best possible info for the NFL with no vested interest in promoting one school or player over another.
Often times you see schools over lists players heights and weights also and when they show up at the combine they tend lose an inch or two.
But every single scout, coach and personnel man at the pro-day puts his own watch to it. That’s why the reports are a “range” of times between 2 points. Because they’re verified by many watches. What could be of issue is: Is it actually 40 yards and not 39.5 yards? Is it downhill? Downwind?
I don’t know what lengths schools go to to verify their 40 tracks at their prodays, but I’m sure these reports on Perriman are not merely telling you what his college coach timed him at.
I’m just saying I don’t believe Perriman ran that fast. He’s probably in the 4.3s. Not that it makes him less of a prospect or anything.
DGB may be on our board, but I don’t think he is in the 1st round and maybe not the 2nd.
If we draft DGB it means Philbin has very little influence in the draft imo. He is not a Philbin type of guy.
I know that’s your opinion, but it’s highly speculative. I think Joe’s the type of guy who assesses each player individually and doesn’t rule anyone out without doing so. Also, that’s my opinion and also speculative. 🙂
It appears the 4.26 might have been his adjusted time:
We received a text message via a trusted NFL scout that, frankly, we had to check twice: He wrote that UCF wide receiver Breshad Perriman just ran a 4.15-second 40-yard dash at his pro day on Wednesday.
I just heard he ran a 3.93 and had 62″ vertical.
That’s sweet. Imagine his vertical if he didn’t run the 40
Some interesting stuff about Howard Schnellenberger—–It might be interesting to look up why he left UM after winning the national championship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Schnellenberger
@AlbertBreer: Just got an unsolicited text from an exec: “Perriman ran really, really, really fast.” That’s Breshad, WR from UCF. Scouts buzzing on him.
The first time I read this I read unsolicted sext from an ex
@UCF Pro Day
Breshad Perriman “ran” the 40 in 4.25 seconds. It was basically a broad jump from the starting line to the finish line. No need to worry about press coverage, he’ll leap past the competition. #1stPickInTheDraft
Finally someone gets it👍
Jahn
I also highly doubt we take DGB. I think it’s very unlikely. Only way I can see it happening is if one or more guys (maybe Tannenbaum and someone else) really like DGB, and all of the other highly rated WR’s are off the board.
I dunno man, you have to weigh it out and i think there is more chance of it thn you think. I dont think he would be a primary choice, i mean in case of DGB vs Parker, Cooper, or White, i think we and most other teams would select them over DGB. I do think though if they really feel we need a receiver at 14, they would select him if all other options were off the board. We will know for sure if they bring him in for a private workout, which i think would be more like an extended interview tryng to figure out where he is maturity wise. People fuck up, especially when they are young kids in college, our coaches know this and i think it would be more about where he is NOW vs where he WAS then.
“Then” wasn’t all that long ago. He’s been plagued by issues. Not just one, although the most recent involves the single biggest NFL hotbutton issue right now.
Tim Knight says:
March 25, 2015 at 1:45 pm
Thanks, Gigi. My friend Jim who’s been fighting brain cancer for over 5 years passed away yesterday. He was 49.
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Way too young to be dying. Im very sorry for your loss Tim, even more so for his family, especially kids if he had them. Beyond tragic.
Thank you.
He has a daughter who’s 5. He got the cancer when his wife was pregnant. He never really got to enjoy her the way he should have. That’s one of the things that makes it even sadder.
sorry to hear about your loss of a friend.
Thank you.
D
I have a feeling DGB might not even be on our board period. Of course anything is possible, but my guess is we won’t be drafting him.
Ditto.
if we do though, I’ll be excited about his on-field potential, but Cecil Collins comes to mind for me…
Oh nooooooooooooo! Not the Diesel!!! lol
Ouch
“I just wanted to take a look”
BTW, no fair comparing the two, I just meant in terms of a high risk/high reward player he reminded me of Cecil. Different infractions, different guys.
Your score is: 6106 (GRADE: B+)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 18 (K.C.): Eric Kendricks, ILB/OLB, UCLA (B-)
Round 2 Pick 15: Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (A)
Round 2 Pick 17 (K.C.): Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (B)
Round 3 Pick 16 (K.C.): Davis Tull, OLB, Chattanooga (B)
Round 4 Pick 15: Senquez Golson, CB, Ole Miss (B+)
Round 5 Pick 13: Kurtis Drummond, FS, Michigan State (A)
Round 5 Pick 14: Andy Gallik, C, Boston College (A)
Round 6 Pick 15: Zach Zenner, FB/RB, South Dakota State (B-)
Looks pretty good through the 3rd round. Don’t know the others so well…
Woah! Is it true that WR Breshad Perriman ran so fast he actually created 1.21 gigawatts and ended up in 1955?!!
Washington (CNN)The U.S. military has charged Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl with one count each of desertion and misbehavior before the enemy, officials announced Wednesday afternoon.
Mike E, you got a 2nd and a 3rd to trade back 4 spots? No way.
Dollar to donuts that’s chart value. It cost a lot to move up in the first even just a few spots. Anything can and does happen on draft day. I would probably do it for just the second and maybe a 4th or 5th though…
I’ve never seen that kind of value for a trade like that. It would be almost impossible for a team to make that trade because it means someone fell and the team trading up really feels he’s special, that it would seem the team at #14 would just take that player or a team closer would look to trade up one or two spots. The only way it happens is if a team really overrates a prospect and does a stupid trade.
I think it’s absurd to trade a 2nd and a 3rd to go from 18 to 14.
He gave up a 4th and move down 4 slots to pick up the 3rd rounder
So that is not so crazy
He had a 4th.
Wow, dumb on so many levels.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-driver-was-recording-video-when-she-hit-3-teens/
“@AndrewSiciliano: Scot McCloughan says Redskins undecided on RGIII 5th yr option. Jay Gruden talks of hitting QB “reset” button» hint hint
How the mighty have fallen. was it THREE first round picks and a second to move up and take him? we “reached” for Tannehill. LOL
getterdone says:
March 25, 2015 at 2:09 pm
Tannehill does too. He’s accomplished as much or more than Suh so far….just sayin.
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GDP: You think Tannehill has accomplished as much or is on the same level as Suh?!? Wow….I beg to differ.
Suh:
4× Pro Bowl (2010, 2012, 2013, 2014)
4× First-team All-Pro (2010, 2011, 2013, 2014)
Second-team All-Pro (2012)
AP NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year (2010)
NFL Alumni Defensive Lineman of the Year (2010)
Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Year (2010)
Sporting News Rookie of the Year (2010)
Pro Football Weekly Rookie of the Year (2010)
PFWA Rookie of the Year (2010)
College awards
PLEASE THERE IS ZERO COMPARISON!!!
Tannehill:
Dolphins MVP (2014)
GD is a turbo powered Tannehill homer. LOL
Why yes he is!!! 😛
Those drafts are kind of just for fun. I don’t think anything is super realistic about them, or especially unrealistic either.
I think the trades are overvalued, but otherwise, when picking straight up, it’s not off the wall.
I’ve seen some extremely unrealistic drafts posted here. Trade downs for four 2nds, 3rds, and 4ths etc. LOL
That’s what I mean, the trades can get silly, but the straight up drafts are as realistic as anything else out there.
Brandon Marshall
LOL
One more for the road. Highest score ever! How do you get an A on every pick and get an A- grade overall? lol
Your score is: 7092 (GRADE: A-)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 14: La’el Collins, OT/OG, LSU (A)
Round 2 Pick 15: Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (A)
Round 4 Pick 15: Davis Tull, OLB, Chattanooga (A)
Round 5 Pick 13: MyCole Pruitt, TE, Southern Illinois (A)
Round 5 Pick 14: Kurtis Drummond, FS, Michigan State (A)
Round 6 Pick 15: Karlos Williams, RB, Florida State (A)
Also, check this out . . .
How You Matched Up:
1. Denver Broncos – 7110
2. Miami Dolphins – 7092
3. Atlanta Falcons – 6842
4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – 6796
5. Minnesota Vikings – 6778
6. Cleveland Browns – 6736
7. New England Patriots – 6668
8. New York Jets – 6656
9. Arizona Cardinals – 6640
10. Baltimore Ravens – 6562
11. Seattle Seahawks – 6546
12. Carolina Panthers – 6538
13. Houston Texans – 6532
14. St. Louis Rams – 6224
15. New York Giants – 6216
16. Indianapolis Colts – 6184
17. Detroit Lions – 6166
18. New Orleans Saints – 6154
19. Dallas Cowboys – 6144
20. Chicago Bears – 6138
21. Washington Redskins – 6116
22. Jacksonville Jaguars – 6112
23. Oakland Raiders – 6106
24. San Francisco 49ers – 6088
25. San Diego Chargers – 6070
26. Tennessee Titans – 5988
27. Green Bay Packers – 5770
28. Philadelphia Eagles – 5742
29. Kansas City Chiefs – 5684
30. Cincinnati Bengals – 5680
31. Pittsburgh Steelers – 5646
32. Buffalo Bills – 5526
Seems the key is La’el Collins….just like you said all along. 🙂
Your penmanship was questionable
I know Suh is the top in comparison to other DT’s…my comment on Tannehill was not based on writers awards. But what Tanehill has meant to his team. He’s accomplished a lot here, he’s broke a rookie record in his 4th game that bested Marino and he’s gotten better ever year stat wise, despite being behind the NFL’s worse OL.
I know stats don’t mean much @ Suh’s position cause he’s a block eater, but statistically, his best year was his rookie year. I hope he continues to do the dirty work for us and get us the ball back more often so Tanny can really show what he’s capable of. SO THERE! 😉
Ryan is on the upswing, Suh is a monster, & Miko has crabs. I think I covered it😄
Miko has crabs and diarrhea of the mouth
Suh’s best year was lasr
he was dominant
The most important stat is that the Lions were #1 againstt he run
He has been HOF caliber every year of his career
and what gets a DT is in consitency more than anything else
I concur w/you counselor!
No signs before, none at all. This from a reporter that was following him in 2013 as part of an “in-depth interview” thing.
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I looked out the front window of the bar and saw Hernandez urinating on a running taxi cab, with the driver yelling at him. All I could think was, Great, Hernandez is going to get in trouble, and I’m going to have to write about this nonsense. I asked a confidant of his if he might want to go get his friend. “He won’t listen to me so why don’t you go get him?”
For some reason I didn’t think this to be unreasonable. I went outside, walked up to Hernandez and suggested he should probably use the restroom inside unless he wanted to get arrested. No response. Then I lightly touched his elbow to guide him back into the bar and said, “Aaron, come on. This is stupid.” At that point Hernandez whipped around, got in my face, unleashed a stream of expletives and concluded, “I’m not a child! You’re not my dad!”
GDP: If I did not know any better I would think you are smoking this wacky tobaccy green stuff from here in Cali! 😛
FYI: The stuff out here is 1,000 x better than in Florida !!
He is smoking Ryan Tannibis
LMAO
LOL, good one.
LOL @ Stanger and Piggy. Penmanship is one thing I would fail on, especially if I had to write in script, or cursive as it’s properly known.
I basically forgot how to write cursive. I still don’t really know how I write my signature. LOL
My point is. I rather have a top QB than a top DT if you know what I mean. QB’s are more integral to winning the game because they touch the ball on every offensive snap.
The best scenario is having both a top 10 QB & top 10 DT. We’re close to having both….so that’s why I said the wins should start coming Gigi. We’ve been over 13 yrs & 17 QB’s since we last were a winning team without Don & Dan.
When we get a top qb, please let me know.
The Washington rumor about perhaps selecting a QB with pick 5 i think is mostly to drive up the value of their pick. Reason i say this is that i heard a couple of weeks ago they were looking to trade the pick to recoup some of the lost picks or draw out suitors for a player for picks trade. Tenn is doing a imilar thing by spreading rumors about not being satisfied with Mettenberger. Both are believable, but given the shopping the pick preceded the “we might take a QB” rumors, im leaning towards it being a trade bait tactic.
Tim,
I ran the numbers and actually it’s not even close to chart value. I think it’s unrealistic as well, though I think your logic has a flaw in it. Just because a team falls in love with a player doesn’t mean the team trading back would take that player instead. If some team fell in love with a player and gave a sweetheart offer, it’s not like the GM all of the sudden sees something he didn’t see before, he takes the sweetheart offer and gets the better of the trade.
Still though, the chart value of that trade is that the 2nd rounder alone would get it done..and then some, so I agree, it’s unrealistic.
My point was to make that trade you have to see something very special in the player and if that’s the case, they likely wouldn’t be the only team who sees that.
I think some are discounting the process. Philbin doesn’t like certain character traits, he wants guys o be hard working stand up people. It doesn’t however mean he misses the point that people do stupid shit sometimes and they can get wake-up calls that get their lives back in order. I dont think DGB offers the security that some of the players do in that respect, he comes with a reason to investigate him further, but i think that’s exactly what they will do and then they will make their decision off of that, not ignore him as a possibility all together just because he has a past.Half of these kids have pasts if ya dig deep enough, and i bet you a bunch are going to surface in the next month. Im not pushing for DGB, i have pretty much 4 other WR’s rated higher than him as far as who i would take for Phins, but i definitely think the talent is there and there is more credit to be given to the possibility we would select him at 14.
GDP SAYS “The wins should start coming, Gigi.” –Pray tell where have I heard those words before?? –Now we DO have an opportunity to plug our gaping holes in the O-Line (2 holes at guard), Linebacker (at least 1 hole), defensive back (ditto), fullback (someone who can convert 3rd and 2) and a tall, dominant WR who’s a red zone specialist. Some may say our biggest need is A HEAD COACH, but don’t go there b/c Ross loves Philbin. Well, even I can’t drink enough KOOL-Aid to believe the upcoming draft will supply instant upgrades at those positions of need. –And there’s sure as hell no improvement coming this season at head coach. So, yeah, a winning season and a playoff victory are REAL LIKELY, RIGHT?? How could ANYONE have any doubts??
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Patience, Old Dolfan, patience. Every franchise has a bad decade or two. Just be patient and everything will be OK.
ALL those positions of need.
Sooo why renew your tickets, just watch on TV like the rest of us poor slobs 😉
Alternative, don’t be patient, stamp your feet, get really angry.
Both alternatives achieve the same thing, so it’s really about personal preference.
That’s right, John. Some are OK with mediocrity. Some are not. –It’s great to live in a country where you can express yourself as you see fit.
Some think how they react to mediocrity from a professional team will actually change it, some know better it.
Some root for their team to be superbowl champions every single season even while others accuse them of “being ok with mediocrity”. Some think it’s cool to go around calling people “liars” at every opportunity too.
Sure is a great country that allows me to point out these things out.
Been looking at alot of WR film….I don’t think any of the WR at the top are worth trading up for (just sit and wait at 14 if WR is the target or trade back is what i mean).
Coates & Perriman both look like they have the strongest core strength of the WR in the top 15 WR discussion.
Baylor’s Antwan Goodley is interesting.
UGA’s Chris Conley is worth a look as a developmental guy just on sheer physical abilities (as with Smelter of GT).
I almost forgot about Cal WR Chris Harper who played with a bum QB (Jahn, what you think of him? He can really go up and get it at a high point though he’s light by NFL standards).
OD,
I certainly understand your frustration. I too came from the Perfect season era, that and the many Shula/Marino years have totally made us all spoiled lil brats. I must admit, I know I’m one.
The Browns fans, buddies of mine, are still so loyal, die hard, and happy to beat the Steelers, Ravens, or Bengals at least once a year or achieve a 8-8 record and they’re on cloud 9.
It’s become more just a ra ra entertainment thing in the modern FA era.
Back in the pre-FA era you could identify with your team more cause players were usually there for their entire career, so it became like family.
Now it’s all about selling high priced seats, huge advertising & merchandising, and Corporations entertaining clients or top level employees with blocks of prime tickets.
On top of that, the rules keep changing and refs skew games in order to keep that entertainment value/rating high. Very few people want to sit 3+ hours and watch a 9-6 defensive battle these days.
The integrity of the true game from days gone by are definitely GONE!
http://www.wsj.com/articles/from-heinz-to-kraft-zero-based-budgeting-sweeps-across-america-1427308494
what is going to be interesting is entertainment expenses.
I can’t believe Zayn quit. What will all the 10 to 16 year old girls do?
they will have to start listening to real music
Al, good post, I like most of those WR’s you mentioned, but as you know I’ve been really pushing the other GT WR Waller.
OD, fans have nothing to do with how well their teams do. If they did, every fan would have a winning team. LOL
QFT
Tim,
I’m really sorry you lost your friend. I hope that he is in a better place right now.
Thanks, man. Me too.
I read up the page where you said he had a 5 year old daughter. That is just tragic. My heart goes out for his family.
Gigi (@Mrs2620) says:
March 25, 2015 at 5:14 pm
FYI: The stuff out here is 1,000 x better than in Florida
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There is not even a debate about that Gigi! I lived there for two years, and have visited every few years or so as my brother lives out there.
Tim, I’m so sorry to hear about your friend. Wish I could say something that makes you feel better and makes sense of it. Truth is, it just sucks.
Thanks, Herd. Yes it does suck!
your boy from marshall H.Whiteside is out tonight.He got 10 stitches on his hand.They don’t know about him playing friday
Damn, I was hoping OD liked my post 1 min after his last post. 😦
He’s become a hot n run specialist, or didn’t like it at all.
^hit n run…lol, not hot head 😉
14: R1P14
WR DEVANTE PARKER
LOUISVILLE
47: R2P15
RB TODD GURLEY
GEORGIA
114: R4P15
G ALI MARPET
HOBART
149: R5P13
OT SEAN HICKEY
SYRACUSE
150: R5P14
CB CHARLES GAINES
LOUISVILLE
190: R6P15
S ADRIAN AMOS
PENN STATE
I like that draft. nicely done.
First, they bring back “24” for a short season. Now, they are bringing back “The X Files” for a six episode arc. Neither are shows I ever really got into. However, if they’d do something similar with “Firefly”, I might arrange to watch that.. Browncoats- Unite!
Brian, it’s heartbreaking on so many levels.
why don’t you and your friends help the child during her lifetime. Birthdays, school projects, another words a life choice. My wife did this for walmart employee that was killed and he left behind a daughter. This kid will never go without with the funds from walmart foundation. My wife loves doing it and she says their is no more satisfaction than the time she spends with this kid and her mother . A group of you guys can make a major difference.
Yikes Crowder goes after Chris McCain over his tweet on Darren Sharper’s sentence. Rightly so.
https://embed.radio.com/clip/59002580/?ref_url=http://cbsloc.al/1AkYvvs&ads_ga_page_tracker=UA-17434257-49&rollup_ga_id=UA-2438645-53&station_id=67702#
Crowder owned his ass!
I struggle with this because I can’t stand Crowder. Crowder talks over everyone, and is notorious for saying stupid shit. So now he’s going to take McCain to task for a tweet?
This is a good lesson in (why not to use) twitter. He now has to defend himself from looking like he was defending a rapist and deal with pricks like Crowder when it would’ve been so easy to not say anything at all. Social media encourages social mistakes. Him making that tweet was case in point.
Anyone see this article about Jimmy Graham, he was almost a Fin
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000481187/article/jimmy-graham-was-nearly-traded-to-miami-dolphins
Yeah, I posted last night. His contract would have been a tough one to take on.
Yes, proud of the Phins taking shots at the top players.
Seems like they are finally getting that two good players don’t equal one great one.
Tim,
An Irish wake starts with a lot of “keening” which is wailing and mourning, but it quickly moves on to the party portion and it’s not a time for tears, it’s a time for celebrating the life of the deceased. I wish you +vibes while you go through this period of mourning, but I also wish you great memories and many smiles when you get to the point you’re ready to celebrate his life.
Cheers man +++++vibes.
My wife’s family is Irish. They basically just get right to the alcohol and skip all the wailing nowadays.
What’s up FUers? Just get me to the draft. Perriman blowing things up to date. I wonder if it makes a difference on the top 3 or 4 WRs in the draft. If that time was legit he just might be a 1st round talent and perhaps somebody like Devante Parker lands in our lap at 14.
I don’t know if that’s enough to push him into top 15 status, but if it were to drop one of the other top 3 guys to us, it’d be great. I think it’s more likely he goes in the first round now, but a one off 40 time seems like it shouldn’t be enough to change his fate all that much.
4.25 is pretty rarefied air. Not many guys go that fast. If Al Davis were still alive I think we know who would be going at no. 4.
BTW I agree that it is unlikely to change the top 3 status but I wouldn’t mind if it did. I would love for either White, Cooper or Parker to fall to us.
Very fair point on Al Davis.
This will make you feel better about the Fins!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CA-xjcLUUAECw4c.jpg:large
I like the ways their mouths move when the ask for pork
Wyoming, or this!
Nope. Wyoming’s post makes me feel better.
20 cheerleaders VS. TannyHill?
Joking right? 😉
I can watch cheerleaders anytime, but we only get to see Tanny & the Phins with a chance to win games 16x a year.
Ahem
They aren’t plying at the moment!
Ken, I’d be tempted to take Perriman over Parker. I think Parker is close to his ceiling, and Perriman still will develop quite a bit more….IMO.
I like Parker more. His size and catch radius is awesome and he is plenty fast. I think he is going be a stud.
I actually think Parker has a high ceiling
and has a lot of things he needs to work on
To me between Perriman and Parker it’s not even close
Parker by a mile
But Perriman may have moved himself ahead of Parker in the eyes of many scouts I’m pretty sure he moved ahead if Strong
I think your guy DGB and Perriman may bust up the whole order of he WRs in the draft
DGB and Perriman could easily push some other quality prospects down
I’m licking my chops at the prospect of drafting strong in the 2nd round
I would love for nothing more if Perriman or DGP push a Parker or Cooper down to us
Perriman certainly helped himself today but I still think there is a bust factor with him. Smaller school, inconsistent hands but ceiling is high on the kid. I think he is my no. 5 WR in the draft. I would take in this order: Cooper, White, Parker and Strong before I take Perriman. But top of the draft for WR is looking real good right now.
Dropsies are my pet peeve with receivers
I have little tolerance for drops
Cheers everyone. My thoughts are with ya Tim. Cheers to Jim when I tip my beer tonight!
(Piggy farts in the blog and then flies away)
What did McCain say about sharper
Chris McCain ✔ @DolphinEret
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@Dan0933 lol you think I care. Darren sharper doesn’t deserve life while kids are on video tape unarmed CLEARLY and still being shot
http://www.demanjo.com/news/sport/920771/darren-sharper-gets-9-years-in-prison-for-drug-rapes-in-four-states.html
That is stupid
Like one has anything to do with the other
What’s up Piggy?
What’s up Ken!
Work is what’s up. New job is busy as hell. Cuts into my blog time.
UCF has impeccable facilities. They most likely ran in the indoor practice facility today. Between the indoor facility, the outdoor facilities, or even the stadium Perriman had a great surface to run on.
Now all of a sudden he’s in the conversation, lol, told you all along he was big and fast. Didn’t think he’d go that fast but he certainly always pulled away from anyone who was unfortunate enough to be behind him. And he’ll go make the tough yards over the middle too.
I wonder if J-ville says screw it and spends another 3rd pick (1st round) on a UCF’er to pair with Blake. Interesting.
I guess blake is familiar enough with him to make it worth while
Might be a good idea
I hope Perriman pushes another WR down
Watch DGB and Perriman be the first 2 WRs off the board. I would be screaming woo hoo at the TV if that happens.
Your guy really helped himself today. I said above if Al Davis were alive he would be the no. 4 pick.
Sharper didn’t get life right?
9 years is what he got. Too light imo.
The Flying Pig says:
March 25, 2015 at 9:17 pm
That is stupid
Like one has anything to do with the other
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is STUPID in more ways than I care to think about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
His bread and butter – the Go route – 0% drop rate.
What’s Wallace’s?
Wallace thinks go route means “go to the lockeroom early”
LOL @ Piggy and go to the locker room early.
So if a team drafts him don’t use him for the quick out or the in route
But do use him for the go route
That QB struggled throwing inside as many first year players do. That stat shows it.
Guys, don’t you think if Perriman & DGB push the other big WR’s down, that maybe they are better receivers??? Think about it, why be all excited about Strong then in the 2nd?…lol
But regardless, I think this is another deep WR class, should be something for most teams and the type of system they run or the type of body/speed they need.
Not necessarily. Certain teams and GMs fall in love with the measureables which is why guys like Darrius Heyward Bey get drafted really high but clearly was not the best WR in that draft.
Measurables are certainly a 1/3 of the process.
But many GMs fall in love with them and you see the Darrius Heyward Bey’s and Mike Mamula’s of this world get drafted. So the 1/3 sometimes gets more weight than that.
By that reasoning Todd Blackledge was a better QB than Dan Marino.
Ken he got 9 in CA & 20 in LA, to run concurrently.
Ah, I only heard the 9 but 20 sounds more like the appropriate sentence.
I think we get ourselves so boxed in on here sometimes. It’s about talent in the first round if that meets need then fine but you have to get the best players in round one. Perriman, DGB, Gurley (assuming full recovery) are amazing athletes, the pros won’t miss that. And if you don’t think we take a DE watch Fowler slide a little, we’d pounce or watch Beasley make it to 14 – snag… yeah a lot will happen and it will be much different than what the FU scripted. It always is.
True, we can only watch the internet & tv….scouts & GM’s have live views, interviews, etc etc.
Plus they get lots of inside type info from friends in the biz, i.e. other coaches etc.
If Fowler or Beasley slide to 14 I can see us taking one of them. By all mocks I have seen they are both gone in the top 10. 5 DEs are consistently mocked in the top 10. I don’t see them there at 14.
I’m saying if Fowler slides past 5 someone, maybe us, will pounce up to get him. Not that the stej would trade with us but my point is Fowler will go super early or he becomes a steal.
Son:
I don’t see us trading up for a DE. I can see it at WR and I can see us taking a DE if one fell to 14 which I don’t think will happen.
GDP
I’m thinking push quality down to the 2nd round
If we there are 6th first round caliber WRs
There is a good chance 2 are selected in the 2nd round
And you don’t kill your chance of landing a 1at round graded WR by trading back
And for what it’s worth
I have always though DGB could be the 1st WR off the board
I just think he might be completely off our board
Too much off the field risk for DGB to be the no. 1 WR drafted imo. Talent yes but with his domestic violence issues and the fact that it is a hot button issue for the league right now, I would be surprised if he is taken that early. My prediction, no. 32 to the Pats. It’s the kind of move that everyone fawns all over Bellicheck for.
Purportedly
Gregory is dripping and is the pass rusher most likely to drop
Well maybe if he wasn’t dripping some team might be more likely to draft him higher. LOL.
I still think Cooper is our target and we’re willing to move up to get him. JMO
Yessssss. I am big fan of Amare Cooper. Most complete and polished WR of the draft. May not have the upside of White but I think he can play at a high level from day 1.
Some Perriman highlights
I admit, at least in the highlights, he catches The ball better than my first impression
How is he so wide open though
I have to think the level of completion is a bit questionable
Speed baby, I told you he runs really good.
Good discussion gents…I gots to go.
Peace GDP.
Cooper will make an impact as a rookie
He is probably the most nfl ready WR
Exactly.
Man oh Man’
Walker didn’t like that tweet from McCain!
Chiefen Walker @ChiefenWalker · 5m5 minutes ago
F U Chris McCain. F’ME Dolphins Fans no longer support you
I am sure that has McCain reconsidering his belief system in life.
Lol
lol
Happy to be in Treasure Island Fl for 10 days.
Good for your Bookman.
Sounds awesome!
Welcome to Fla Bookman. That’s by St. Pete right?
Son
Wedge may have to check out Perriman
Is it raw speed or is he setting up the DB to guess wrong (piggy shrugs)
I know speed kills
But the later is usually more effective in the NFL IMO
Some of those DBs were like 5 yards back
They may have guessed wrong
And some times that is bc the WR made them guess wrong
No because the film on him would tell any D to not let him get behind you. You can’t jump routes when he’ll beat you deep. He’s fluid with that short area quickness to get a move on a guy.
Alright guys I have to be in court early tomorrow. I am out. Peace to you all.
Thanks, Jahn. The services are Saturday and a friend of ours’ band is playing that night at one of our old stomping grounds. He was actually a drummer in a band I was in many moons ago. We’re trying to get a bunch of us there after the services.
My group of friends were all about getting a nice buzz and laughing, and that’s what we’ll do. We have hundreds of stories over the years that we’ll reminisce about. We will celebrate our time with Jim and try to grieve in a positive way. Part of the problem for us is he’s the first to go from our big group so it’s new to us and very difficult.
I just lost my uncle who I was very close to so the feeling of mortality is still very real to me and I personally am trying to come to grips with life and what it’s all about.
Thanks to everyone for your kind words.
Peace Tim. I hope you weather these storms alright you are a good man. Peace to Jim and to his family.
Son,
Yes, St Pete Beach
Nice area, enjoy yourself
I would not be surprised if we traded up for Aamri Cooper. I think he’s Landry ready but more gifted in size and speed. He would make us better right away. You want a jolt of now, he’s even better than Keenan Allen out of the gate.
4.15 40 for Perriman? That was the unofficial time, they said it was 4.22. He doesn’t look that fast.
I heard he ran to Saturn and back and still had time to get a sandwich. Crazy right? LOL
Tim,
I’m just catching up and was saddened to see that you lost a friend. A few years ago, I went through losing a friend I’d grown up with from birth through high school. I had a huge crush on her, and she was actually the first girl to kiss me…on a school bus in, like, 5th grade. She was also the first to pass from our class…at 44.
The morning I found out about it, I was sitting in a staff meeting at work. In a daze, I found myself getting up and going out into the hallway…and crying for 5 minutes. Her death hit me harder than I could’ve imagined. It was a changing point in the lives of many of her friends, as we came to find out as we reminisced. The unfairness, the mortality, the realness of death…as if we had all been slapped in the face by life and didn’t much like it.
Later, we were all able to smile…and remember her laugh…how she always seemed to be happy….a woman everyone liked. A friend.
Really well said, bro. Love is a strong thing. Sometimes we forget how to use it.
I think we’re going for it this year. Signed Suh and next is Tannehill. Don’t pay a 2016 1st round pick.
The #14 and next years #1 to go up up and get Cooper. He reminds me of Boldin and Wayne combined. He’s a bigger and faster version of Landry. He would make us very difficult to defend.
Landry, Cameron/Sims, Stills, Cooper, and Miller/Williams could be a really good offense.
When you get right down to it, what is the pick, the FA or the player acquired through the draft? What does he do for us? Cooper is the perfect fit for what we’re running in Miami.
I know some are saying WTF, Tim, but do you want to win or keep developing?
I have a gut feeling Cooper will be good wherever he goes.