Okay Okay, I admit it Shula is the Greatest Ever. There is no one that gives me a harder time hurting the butts of Dolfans than Shula. But even the greats have some low points.
In 1990 the Dolphins sought to build the left side of the offensive line in one draft. And they were successful. Richmond Webb and Keith Sims played in a combined 326 games. They were among the best pass protectors in the NFL. In Shula’s last year, 1995, the Dolphins tried to do the same thing on the right side of the offensive line.
Like Webb and Sims, Billy Milner and Andrew Green were the first two picks of their respective drafts. But unlike Webb and Sims, Milner and Green played in an uninspiring 40 total games. It should have been easier to duplicate the success of Webb and Sims on the right side of the line – but it didn’t work out that way.
Not butt hurt yet? Want some more pokey? I know you cannot resist pokey. Just look at me!
In 1988 and 1989 the Dolphins selected two very productive safeties in the 2nd round of each draft. Louis Oliver and Jarvis Williams combined for 33 total interceptions in their time with the Dolphins. But for those successful 2nd round picks the 1988 and 1989 might be better known as total failure. That is because the first round picks in each of those two drafts were Sammie Smith and Eric Kumerow. Each played in over 40 games for the Dolphins, but Smith is notable among long time Dolfans for his fumbles, while Kumerow is still the Dolphins biggest first round reach.
Sammie Smith is an example of the Dolphins misses at running back during the Marino era. Another good example of this is John Avery. An example of a running back miss before Marino is David Overstreet the first round pick of the 1981 draft. He played in 14 games. But hey at least we nabbed Marino two years later.
Five years before Marino, the Dolphins drafted some guy to play quarterback. No really, some guy: Guy Benjamin was the first pick of the 1978 draft for the Dolphins, albeit a 2nd rounder. Here is a picture of Guy Benjamin. Probably gonna have to ask one of the elder Dolfans about who Benjamin is. I have no idea who he is. But he probably makes your butt hurt.
Oh and that magical ’72 season with that incredible trio of running backs, well it started with a bang with the drafting of Gary Kousins in the 2nd round. Kousins was a running back and I guess you can’t fault him for failing to nail down the starting job. I can’t find a picture of Gary Kousins. So here is a picture of another Gary.
Honestly though, there wasn’t too much butt hurting during the Shula years. A couple of bad selections here and there. A couple of guys who careers were derailed because of injury, like Randall Hill. But wherever there is a draft – there is a pokey.
Pokey happens…
This post is pokey approved. Don’t accept any fakes. Look for the Seal of Pokey.
Finsmob Unleashed 
1st–David Overstreet died in a car accident in off season. We had a string of off season deaths for several years—rusty chambers,and david bowers.
Shula had a lot of failures but that can be expected with how many years he coached and Shula wasn’t a perfect choirboy he bent the rules as far the rules allowed or couldn’t be caught.
david bowers is in correct- larry gorden died
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1985-06-23/sports/8501250108_1_jackie-chambers-death-corduroy
Shula wanted a outside linebacker so he made bad trades or draft choices—-hugh green and EJ junior come to mind. John Bosa can be added with Eric Kumerow as bad 1st rounders. Mira from UM as a second rounder. The former dolphin guy that coached lebron james as a hs player in football.
jay brohpy
Shula is tied for most super bowl loses—4
shula lost his 1st 4 apperances in chaMPIONSHIP/SB games.He was called a choker because he couldn’t win the big game
Shula got his first NFL coaching job as the defensive backfield coach for the Detroit Lions in 1960.[3] The Lions posted winning records in each of Shula’s three seasons there under head coach George Wilson.Shula replaced George Wilson.
Weeb Ewbank, whom Shula had played under in Cleveland and Baltimore, was fired as the Colts’ head coach in 1963 following a string of losing seasons. Shula replaced him. Ewbank beat Shula in what is considered the greatest upset of SB’s with the Jets
After the dolphin 1st SB lose vs Dallas and the 1st day of training camp the following year Shula made the team watch the SB vs Dallas embarrassment not once but twice.
It’s a jetssuck marathon! lol
LMAO @ The Richard Gere Pokey pic! Funny stuff Piggy!
the power drill is for you!
Dick Wood died, apparently awaiting moderation…
Dick Wood died last week.
Well shit- the article I read was dated 4/12 I think…
Well shit- the article I read was dated 4/12 I think…
I actually thought Hugh Green was a good pickup for the Dolphins. I know it was towards the end of his career, but I thought he did well for us.
I thought Hollywood Henderson was going to be a good pickup for us, too- not do much, turns out.
Trypod
I’m going to get the papers,
get the papers
I don’t know how that happened, how that happened.
LOL – Beat me to it!
Try – I actually mentioned that Dick Wood, who was the very first QB of the Miami Dolphins passed away last week. It’s a tough name to forget. lol
Are you saying the name sort of pops out at you?
Yes. lol
Piggy
Drill is for me??? Por favor explique . . . .
LOL
I actually just threw the power drill in the photoshop at the end of the edit
it has nothing to do with you
I’m just messing with you
Colonpokey owns a lot of stock in black and decker though
it made me squirm in my chair… like when George’s dad and the “corkscrew pasta Jerry” (fusilli Jerry)
Burrowing tools, like awls and such? lol
morning folks. first off… great write Piggy… I read every morning quickly but no time to comment. a rare opportunity to post…. severe storm last night delayed school 90 minutes!!!!
Regarding the Shula drafts…. Had Shula retired BEFORE Dan Marino I believe he would have more non-phin fans backing him as the GOAT in coaching. His record in the 60’s and 70’s compared to other coaches with a similar length of service is unparalleled. But that long stretch trying to win a SB with Marino (fucking 49ers!!) became almost desperate by the late 80’s and early 90’s. Shula could win in THREE different eras of play….
BUT… in the 60’s and 70’s the draft was ‘different’ than the late 80’s and 90’s… and now it is WAY different in expectations.
I would say first 15-20 years was pretty solid drafting… then the “desperate” years were quite shaky.
I actually though we drafted well until he left
and I would take what we were int he 80s and 90 under Shula right now instead of what we were
I mentioned Webb/Sims in this piece
But how bout this other 1-2 punch – McDuffie and Kirby in 1993
Thos draft I mentioned with Kumerow and Sammie Smith (’88 & ’89) also had productive selections like Jeff Cross, Jeff Ulhenake, Pete Stoyanivich, Ferrel Edmunds, Harry Galbreath, JB Brown – those guys are later picks and helped the Dolphisn compete. yeah, they are not great players but they didn;t find themselves out of the league within 3 years either.
Good morning Rhino! Glad you had a minute to pop in
More DB’s signed and being brought in… camp competition…. throw the shit against the wall and see what sticks.
It seems pretty clear that the Fins want to “fill” every hole before the draft. I still expect a ‘veteran’ WR to be signed… and a LB (both of who could be cut if they can’t beat out any draft picks). The REALLY tough spot is OG cuz we’re really just waiting for someone else to make a salary cap cut. Unless of course our coaching staff has a much higher opinion of Turner than we do. I like Turner’s disposition… but he is a classic “develop” guy (which we in the fan base no longer have patience for LOL).
On the Pouncey extension: I think it is a sign that our OL strategy is to hopefully get consistency and keep quality guys together…. Because an OL needs chemistry… constant churning (even with higher quality) does not always mean better play than a ‘mixed talent’ OL that has chemistry and LOTS of snaps together.
I hope so
I hate changing these guys and spending high picks every couple of years
Piggy, I’m with you on Shula vs today… but also noticed your list and it makes the point that Shula was definitely building offense around Marino (Shula, ironically, was the one PUSHING for changes in the rules about defensive contact… many criticized him for trying to change the rules to fit HIS style of play). The defensive side is what seemed to get ignored. PERHAPS Shula was foreseeing what we are currently experiencing in the NFL game.
I thought the Troy Vincent/ Marco Coleman ddraft was good
and he drafted Bryan Cox at some point too
Before that in the 80s he brought int he Killer B’s
but I do think his focus on defense tailed off a little, as you say, in the Marino era
morning MikeE. Hope you are enjoying the start of baseball. I know lots of guys here find it boring… but I absolutely love the pace and mix of thoughtfulness/athleticism and strategy of pitching rotations…. it’s not a sport for the “impatient brigade” lol
Yatil Green!
1997 15 Yatil Green Wide receiver Miami (FL)
1998 29 John Avery Running back Mississippi
1999 — No pick — —
2000 — No pick — —
2001 26 Jamar Fletcher Defensive back Wisconsin
2002 — No pick — —
2003 — No pick — —
Louis Oliver was a 1st round pick.
The trade for Hugh Green was a great move. The problem was he blew his knee in an era when they didn’t come back from those injuries so well. His game was speed off the corner and he lost that from the injury.
Sorry Rhino, actually got busy here for a bit. I’m impatient about some things, but I do love me some beisbol. I agree, love thinking like a pitcher and trying to guess the t ype of pitch and the location, whther a baserunner is going, whether the catcher calls for a ptchout, and many more strategic angles. I do love NFL football more though, but there is always a place in my heart for baseball.
Pitching is my favorite part of the game of baseball. I love watching good pitching.
What bores me about baseball is when pitchers take too much time, throw to 1st base with no effort to pick the guy off, just to stall throwing the ball to the batter, then the batter having to redo everything he’s wearing after every pitch. Knock it off and play ball. LOL
Tim – There you go. I forgot Green got hurt, but I do remember him being a good player for us.
Yatil Green was a very good WR, we just got fucked by the injury gods. Freak injury in training camp, cleats got stuck in the dirt, and that was the end of him. Shame
Tim
The new rule that the batter has to stay in the batters box is a great rule. No need for all those ridiculous adjustments of every piece of equipment and then step back in a half hour later. I like it a lot.
Agreed.
nice job piggy. thanks for the laugh
I don’t get why tanny’s deal needs to get done now. Why not wait until after the 2015 season like the colts are doing it with Luck and Luck has actually been to playoffs ever year he’s been in the league.
You can, but if he absolutely kills it this year, you’re going to have to pay significantly more. That’s the reason I’d sign him now.
Wyo
I’m wondering if Jamar Taylor and Will Davis are going to be Dorian Brew and Kirk Pointer
I think “IF” they can stay healthy?
They will be fine and contribute
That is on BIG IF though
If your Butt don’t hurt yet!
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia/draft.htm
Does anyone else keep this site on a tab in the background while they’re working at their computer during the day and notice that the tab in this series says “sodomized” on it?
My wife just came up behind me and glanced at the computer, pointed to the tab and said “What the hell!!!!???”
Lol..how long is this series going to live on again Piggy?
LMAO!!! I hesitate to keep the page open at work because of that.
My tab only has the Dolphins logo and S…
I consider myself lucky. lol
LMAO!!!! Good thing he doesn’t have an article titled “I love the cock”. LOL
LOL @ This post is pokey approved. Don’t accept any fakes. Look for the Seal of Pokey.
Wyo
Yeah man, BIG IF is right. It would be nice if we could count on those guys and NOT have to draft a CB, but I’m not sure we’re there.
I think it’s a pretty good strategy to take a DB every year!
If nothing else ST
1981 1 13 David Overstreet RB
1981 2 56 Andra Franklin RB
1981 4 84 Sam Greene WR
1981 4 96 Brad Wright QB
1981 5 126 Ken Poole DE
1981 5 138 Tommy Vigorito RB
1981 6 152 Mack Moore DE
1981 6 154 Fulton Walker DB
1981 7 179 Mike Daum T
1981 8 208 William Judson DB
1981 9 235 John Noonan WR
1981 10 261 Steve Folsom TE
1981 11 291 Jim Jensen WR
1981 12 318 John Alford DT
Well at least we got Crash @ 291 ! 🙂
Overstreet died in a car crash, Franklin was a good RB, not great, Vigorito was OK, Walker was a good KR, and Judson was a solid CB.
mike,
If he absolutely kills it then I’d be glad to pay him. That’s a better alternative than if he shits the bed and you’re paying a hack a lot of money to sit on the bench.
Just going by his career, he’s improved each and every year, so no reason to bank on anything else.
I think waiting would be better. If we don’t go to the playoffs again this year do you still think he’s a franchise QB? What other franchise QB didn’t go to the playoffs his first 4 years in the league?
I don’t expect him to shit the bed. He’s getting better every year.
I just posted the 81 draft because Crash is one of my all-time favorite players! 🙂
And it was pretty Jeffro-esque! 😦
Crash was fun to watch Wyo, he really was.
I take that back!!!!!!!
I don’t think Jeff every whiffed like this!
Shula is tied for most super bowl loses—4 and if you count championships games his record is 2 wins and 6 loses.
OK, I’ll play . . . . How many HC’s were in 5 SB’s and won 1 NFL Championship (Colts)
Are you taking Shula? He was in 6 SBs.
shula was in 6 sb.for your question As player and coach? Tom Landry I know coached 5 sb’s
Great job as always Pig. Even if these can be painful to read, think you are doing a public service by reminding us all what a crap shoot the draft is. I have to keep that mind when I start thinking, “take this guy in that round and he’ll be doing this next season.” He might be doing very little at all, no matter what round taken.
On his very first day of training camp, Yatil Green tore his quadriceps muscles, anterior cruciate ligament and cartilage in his right knee.[1] Green came back the next year and again tore the same ACL in training camp.[2] In his third and only season playing, 1999, he played in 9 games catching 18 receptions for 234 yards and no touchdowns.
He wasn’t any good if one considered his production. Maybe if he didn’t hold out his rookie season year for a better contract things would have been different
He was a talented prospect who was destroyed by injuries.
MIght have been different, but I hate seeing Yatil Green on draft bust lists. To me a bust is something different.
I agree. John Bosa was actually a solid player who also had his career cut short due to knee injuries.
To me a bust is a player who doesn’t live up to expectations. Ted Ginn is a bust as a WR taken at #9 which he never should have been.
Five to forget: 1987, Miami, John Bosa, DE, Boston College
During a three-year career, he made 21 starts and recorded three sacks.
No doubt Ginn makes the all time Phins Bust list, only question is at what spot but given those two returns in that one Jets game alone…..thinking it can’t be at #1.
I suppose there are a lot of interpretations as to what a bust is, but I don’t think Yatil Green was a bust. He got injured, it wasn’t a miss because he wasn’t a talented player, or he because he was a talented player that didn’t care and was lazy.
Yeah to my mind he could’ve ended up a bust, but we’ll never now. Can’t even call him a bad pick cause that would only come if he had a prior injury history, which as far as I remember he didn’t.
Jay Brophy was another bust but he coached Lebron in HS football
He was a bust.
Piggy,
Painful again. Not a fan of Colepokey at all, lol.
No draft is 100% but I think it’s far less of a crapshoot at most positions today. The training and optimization of college athletes is far superior to what has been previously seen.
Changing topic, I’m kinda glad Crabtree went to the Raiders. Hopefully Jennings will still be there after the draft for a quick pickup.
I like Jennings as a veteran to teach the young pups. I was thinking maybe if welker doesn’t find a team toplay for this year maybe he could join the fins as a asst.coach.He has played under some good QB’s and he knows what it takes to prepare plus he knows how Bellicheck coaches winning football.
I wouldn’t mind that. Welker found success and teaching other guys how to do it with his resume would be great.
I’ll take the Shula years ANY TIME over any other period in Fins History. El Fin.
New Age – Agree 100%. I never wanted Crabtree, but I’d be happy if we signed Jennings.
Crabtree isn’t even smart. He took less money to go to a worse team with a fledgling QB. I want a leader not some guy trying to show the world they are wrong about him being washed up. Since he took the lowball offer, he’s really admitting they are right to a degree though.
what about all the shula players busted for cocaine trafficking? Remember Chuck Muncie getting stopped at airport and trade deal never went through.
Mercury Morris too, but I don’t think you can blame SHula for that.
don reese 1st rounder, sammy smith 1st rounder, super duper 2nd rounder and several other through the years
Was it Shula’s fault Miami was the Cocaine Capitol of the U.S.?
no but we know he looked the other way concerning drugs. Hell, the players were taking sppeed before games when several years earlier the NFL punished the san diego chargers for giving players speed
Jetssuck: You honestly think he condoned drugs? You have NO clue about Coach Shula as a man or a coach.
How was Muncie Shula’s issue?
I don’t think Ginn makes the all-time BUST list
Maybe first round Bust list?
Go through the link I posted and you will find Way worse careers than Ginn’s
In no way, shape, or form does this post mean I liked that pick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree. Now, his family on the other hand…they didnt perform up to expectation at all!!
If you are gonna blame Coach Shula for players doing drugs and getting busted….lololol that is super weak. Like players today do not do drugs or get busted? See: Dion Jordan – MEGA BUST IN THE MAKING.
exactly what drug did he get busted for? It wasn’t steriods or illegal drugs pot or coke. Is it something that you can buy otc at gnc?
He was suspended by the league first for PEDs then again for violating the drug policy: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/19/dion-jordan-gets-another-suspension-this-one-for-drugs/
I’ll take Shula’s crappiest years over the shit-show below average dung we have witnessed the last decade (except for ’08 when the savior Pennington saved that season).
FYI: Most here know I grew up in Miami and Coach Shula’s kids attended the same school as my brother and sister. Coach Shula – the one who has been falsely accused of condoning drugs – attended Mass every single day while he was Coach and maybe he still does today i his health allows it. When his wife was dying of cancer he flew her all over to see the best specialists and even to Lourdes in France to get blessed water. He is a devout Catholic so I take great offense to him being smeared because someone makes stuff up.
I am not smearing his name just pointing out facts. I grew up also in Miami and I attended every game during the great SB years. Shula stretched the rules as all coaches did.
Point out — with facts i.e. articles how he ever let players do drugs and/or condoned it?
Have a nice day my blood is boiling – without Coach Shula this franchise would have never won jack shit.
Athletes in all sports were doing coke in the 70s and 80s. It wasn’t a Dolphins issue.
Truth
Everybody was doing Coke in the 70’s and 80’s!
There I fixed it for you 😉
This is true.
Even old ladies were giving blowjobs for lines. LOL
Nothing wrong with an entrepreneurial spirit. Gotta love those self starter!
I don’t think drugs was just a Dolphins issue so it is what it is. Just like there wasn’t just one player suddenly busting out mega homers in the late 90s. Or the widespread cheating allowed by the Patriots or the sudden ADHD of the Seahawks players.
As a coach, it isn’t your job to play nanny. It’s just your job to motivate, train, and get the best product out there for 12-16 games a year depending on when you caoched.
Tim Knight says:
April 14, 2015 at 11:42 am
This is true.
Even old ladies were giving blowjobs for lines. LOL
???????????????????
They were only old because we were young!
We are that age now!
Jetssuck: You are smearing his name by posting stuff like you did. Back it up with some facts – you can’t because there is NOTHING out there which supports your theory.
exactly where did i smear him,everything I said was true? do you know how many illegal ped’s their are? 192 one could get suspended for taking otc stuff from walgreens.
You said:
jetsssuck says:
April 14, 2015 at 11:29 am
no but we know he looked the other way concerning drugs. Hell, the players were taking sppeed before games when several years earlier the NFL punished the san diego chargers for giving players speed
When did he look the other way about drugs? Please provide some data.
yes i did say this and it is true according to bob griese in his book.
Jetssuck: Again, I have never heard such a theory so please provide the written account from Bob Griese claiming such a thing – not just you saying it. I googled this and nothing comes up because it simple is not true.
I did a fair amount of coke in the 80’s. My parents always blamed Shula.
I got caught smoking weed and taking quaaludes – my parents blamed Coach Shula. 😛
All Coach Shula’s fault: http://articles.latimes.com/2006/oct/30/entertainment/et-weekmovies30
That’s how I knew that Marino to the Dolphins would work out so well.
Shula got Marino started on coke his senior year at Pitt, so he would be able to draft him a year later. lol
Lol! No wonder Marino still speaks so highly of Shula! No one knows he lost his weight from his coke habit instead of Nutrisystem!
Anyway – great job Piggy as usual. Was Coach Shula perfect? No. But he was by far the BEST coach this franchise has ever had and he was and continues to be a great family man and one I admire tremendously.
Yeah Agreed
He is the best
Part of being the best is not being perfect
The old coke whores were descendants of Don Shula.
Gigi, Shula was a great man and he was the best thing that happened to the franchise but he had faults like we all do.
maybe you should read a book by Bob Griese and Dave Hyde….
When I went to Shula’s Steakhouse in NYC, they gave me a straw and I didn’t order a drink. lol
^ Shula’s Cat
LMAO!!!
Shula’s other cat. LOL
LMFAO!!
Coach is 85 here is a nice story on him: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-dave-hyde-don-shula-birthday-0104-20150103-column.html
Gigi (@Mrs2620) says:
April 14, 2015 at 12:03 pm
Jetssuck: Again, I have never heard such a theory so please provide the written account from Bob Griese claiming such a thing – not just you saying it. I googled this and nothing comes up because it simple is not true.
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I posted this several weeks back you will have to look for it. It’s from his book. Better yet why don’t you buy the book and read it since it has first hand accounts of the perfect season.
Better yet – why don’t you post from his book where he allegedly makes such a claim and include the Page Number so I can research it. I already ran a search and NOTHING comes up with what you posted.
Caption for pic is: Y’all got any more of them facts?
😛
LMAO @ Jahn’s 10:21 post
Just be happy I didn’t go with the initial title I hand in mind
“Butt Raped at the Draft”
…and yes, I’m serious that was the original title before I changed it to the cleaner (relatively) version
Interesting . . . .
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2015/04/melvin-gordon-to-visit-dolphins-next-week.html
I can’t see the Dolphins going Gordon 1st RD. I could see Gurley. Maybe if he slips to the 2nd RD pick 47, but I doubt that too.
Jetsusck
Thanks for pointing out the overstreet death
I didn;t know that
I remember a string of tragedies with the Dolphins in the 80’s
I also remember when Bunicotti’s son was paralyzed too
When I was kid, we went to some player’s house, I don;t remember who, who’s wife and baby just died in an accident or something. He never answered the door when we knocked (I didn;t understand why as a kid)
Do you remember who that was?
You are right – there was a ton of tragedies for the Dolphins in the 80s
Why were you going to his house?
Some of the other kids in tthe neighborhood were to offer their condonleces
Stupid now when I look back at it
Scared as I am of the wrath of CaliGigi……I’m just going to put it out there.
I like Ruth Chris’ steaks better than Shula’s. Never been a fan of the dry age thing.
It’s not like Shula is actually cooking them. LOL
I’ve never eaten at Ruth Chris, and I wasn’t impressed with the Shula’s in NYC. I did really enjoy the one in Ft. Lauderdale. I’ve also never eaten at Peter Lugers. Crazy, because I LOVE steak. I must go to both of those before I leave this earth.
Shula’s has a sports bar lower place option. That I do like. Just not a fan of the high level one, no matter how hard I try. But it’s really cause they do the dry age thing.
Charles Bowser’s wife was killed in a car accident, the baby survived.
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1985-10-09/sports/8502140122_1_accident-baby-hospital
That sounds right
I didn;t remember the name of the player
I grew up in a home close to Flamingo and Mirimar Parkway
I hope it’s funny.
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/vacation-2015-movie-first-photo-chevy-chase-ed-116313370152.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma
Gigi (@Mrs2620) says:
April 14, 2015 at 12:19 pm
Better yet – why don’t you post from his book where he allegedly makes such a claim and include the Page Number so I can research it. I already ran a search and NOTHING comes up with what you posted.
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why don’t you buy the book or research where I posted from the book several weeks back. Then can I expect a apology accusing me of making up lies and If I am wrong then I will apologize fair enough?
You claim you read it so I presume you have the book – why the hell should I go on a goose chase – post it (Page number). I googled what you said and came up with nothing. Don’t hold your breath for an apology. I do not post such stuff without backing it up with facts — you post it then want me to go running to find what you claim to be true? LOLOLOLOL
jetsssuck says:
April 1, 2015 at 7:38 am
here’s something worth reading from Bob Griese about the 72 season
https://books.google.com/books?id=WVlBk5EOUXkC&pg=PA76&lpg=PA76&dq=shula+and+beer+for+players&source=bl&ots=QeIl384XLh&sig=O2u_xAZ1p2XR-4Mvlcmhidfk8Sk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NtYbVYH3Mc7YggSivoJQ&ved=0CCIQ6AEwATgo#v=onepage&q=shula%20and%20beer%20for%20players&f=false
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You may have to read a few pages. Apology coming?
LoL @ Stanger…Shula’s Steakhouse is a bit overrated as is Ruth Cris IMO. Shula Burger on 17th St. In Ft. Lauderdale is best burger in town however.
Haven’t been to the burger joint…..but that does sound like my kinda place. Ever go to a Fuddrucker’s? Man I loved piling on those toppings.
Love that place but they’re no longer in my area. The one I used to go to closed. The cheese sauce on the fries. Yum!
It is better tan Fuddruckers!!!! Seriously excellent burger place.
Tim — not even sure if the chain is around any more, but I used to order the half pound bacon cheese burger with a side of chili and then pile on everything at the fixing bar. Would tell whoever I was with, “this is going to get messy…..and I don’t care……only thing I’m worried about is how to not get this stuff on my pants.”
The Peter Luger’s in Long Island is awesome
I’ve never been to the one in Brooklyn , its like a zoo
The best steak I ever had was at Wolfgang Puck’s in Atlatic City
and this Korean place in the east village – but I forgot the name
Only thing I could find:
http://www.harpercollins.com/browseinside/index.aspx?isbn13...
HarperCollins
Through his tough-as-nails coaching, grueling preseason training, and … Led by such greats as Larry Csonka, Bob Griese, Nick Buoniconti, Larry Little, … flow as the Dolphins rose to prominence, and the team struggled with its own drug issues. … asking Shula about the game, he ignored their questions and marched to the
So Coach Shula ignored questions about the “game” and you come on here saying he ignored drug use…..ummmm okay nice twisting of facts.
Jetssuck: You cut and paste or post the freaking page buddy I am not reading the entire book. I just posted the portion you twisted.
Here Jetssuck, read this and find where it says when you make stuff up and twist facts what that is called — you may have to read a few hundred pages:
https://www.bible.com/bible/1/jhn.1.kjv
No need to get nasty lets remain civil as I have known you through past conversations.
You may have to read a few pages. Apology coming?
page 86 is the first reference to drug use—–greenies and brownies ring a bell. Thanks for doubting me you are the first person that I remember that has done this in 2.5 years. Link is above to the bob griese perfection book
I don;t knopw what you guys are arguing about
but since I like you both I will just suggest dropping it
I prefer the steak discussion far more…lol
No worries I’m done. Not worth it gotta go.
Stanger, yeah Fuddruckers was awesome with all the fixings. The quality of food was really good and they also had creamy red birch beer.
And what I used to love was out of their half-pound burger you got more than twice the meat than in a double quarter-pounder. Fuzzy math or better meat?…….your choice.
“Zack Bowman , speaking to reporters on Tuesday, said he was told by Dolphins staff that he will have an opportunity to start.”
Guess it comes down to the exact meaning of “opportunity,” but I’m thinking our top 4 CBs are set unless a mid-to-lower-rounder sneaks into the picture.
Open competition for the corners opposite Grimes. Bowman is also a good STs player and he enjoys playing on them.
Least sounds like there should be a camp battle to watch…….and all three of those guys should be working out hard this week to get ready for it.
https://books.google.com/books?id=WVlBk5EOUXkC&pg=PA76&lpg=PA76&dq=shula+and+beer+for+players&source=bl&ots=QeIl384XLh&sig=O2u_xAZ1p2XR-4Mvlcmhidfk8Sk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NtYbVYH3Mc7YggSivoJQ&ved=0CCIQ6AEwATgo#v=onepage&q=shula%20and%20beer%20for%20players&f=false
page 86 to start
It ends at page 85. LOL
you have to scroll down further or let the pages download. The book is about 200 pages
I was just about to say….lol
Jeff Ruby’s- My favorite steakhouse.
Ruth’s Chris- Second.
Haven’t been to Shula’s or Morton’s or Eddie Merlot’s.
I went to a really good one in Vegas, but I can’t remember the name.
Back in the day, I also liked Beefsteak Charlie’s, too. Lol
And for old school Floridians, Black Angus.
i remember the black angus on miami beach
Try — not sure how Ruby’s does it but sounds like the “age” both of us like is wet. Smother it in spices and oil, put it a big baggie, pop it in the cooler for three-four weeks and only thing you can screw up is the temp.
You guys serial killers? LOL
Oddly enough, I believe he dry ages his steaks. I always enjoy my steaks st either place. I think I like ruby’s better because of the ambiance and because he kicked o.j. out of his restaurant during the derby one year.
jetsssuck, it doesn’t go further than page 85 for me.
Same here – I blame Coach Shula 😛
u have to scroll further down. I believe their is a couple references to drugs before page 85,but page 86 and further talks alot about drug use.
RIP Percy Sledge.
Yeah I saw that. RIP
Bobby Flay’s is excellent, and not just the steak. The one in Atlantis was phenomenal, and I also enjoyed his steakhouse in AC.
Stanger, it should be fun watching how the secondary plays out – CB, S and the other nickel and dime roles.
Think S is set. But then who knows what happens on either position if we take a value talent pick in the first.
I want to see where Delmas is at after a late season knee injury that required surgery.
Oh, Percy Percy Me . . . . RIP Percy.
Beefsteak Charlies!!!! We used to get trashed there for birthdays, with all the free beer. We also ate enough ribs to build a dinosaur park. lol
I also liked Steak & Ale…
I like food, mostly.
Any of you guys eat at Smashburger?
Yeah, I find them a little too salty.
I haven’t tried it. We’re moving one of our locations right next door to one, in East Windsor.
Stanger – I hope S isn’t set. I’m not sure anyone besides Jones is a starter.
I think he means Delmas.
Ah, OK. Gotta make sure he’s healthy, obviously.
Mike E, Smashburger is good, quality food there. Just not my favorite.
My dark horse is Walt Aikens at safety along with Jones and I’m sticking to it.
Best meat I’ve ever had didn’t come from a fancy steak house. Our rugby “Spring Fest” in college included a pit, a bonfire next to it, and a whole back quarter of a cow covered in foil…..and a bunch of beer. It was an all-night affair. Every hour or so, logs to the fire, embers from the bottom added to the pit, seasoned oil poured on top…….and at noon the next day slice up and choose which meat you wanted.
But then I was drunk and hungry as hell by that point…..would love to taste the same on a plate tonight to compare.
1976–Miami goes from 10-4 in 1975 to 6-8, resulting in trades that owner Joe Robbie later says were designed to eliminate drug-users from the team.
1977–Miami Dolphins Don Reese and Randy Crowder are imprisoned for a year for selling cocaine.
http://articles.latimes.com/1986-01-29/sports/sp-1319_1_cocaine
Wow I forgot about Steak & Ale. I loved that place.
I loved that place too
Former Dolphins, Chiefs and Texans G Wade Smith announced his retirement.
Smith, a third-round pick of the Dolphins back in 2003, made 98 starts and one Pro Bowl. He’ll be remembered most as the Texans’ reliable left guard from 2010-13, never missing a game. Smith will turn 34 later this month. “Now I am looking forward to creating new starts for our youth, tackling literacy and scoring many more touchdowns through the Wade Smith Foundation,” he said.
I blame Coach Shula for ISIS, Global Warming and the severe drought in California
if you doubt me then why don’t you buy the book. Page 86 is the page I told you about.Maybe you have wait for the page to download or you need a special google app to read. You profess to be a big fan of the miami dolphins then i would think you would read everything about that particular season. Being civil is all I’m asking no need to make remarks that belittle this reflects badly on one self.
Best steak I ever had was my Mom’s – she used to buy steak from Penn Dutch in Hollywood – never had as good a steak as she used to cook…R.I.P. Mom.
Even if mine was a good but not great cook, nothing like what Mom made…no matter what it was. But don’t get me started on my grandma’s chick’n dumplings or biscuits and gravy.
Agreed – my Mom & Grandma were great cooks and I never had anything like the stuff they made – my aunts would try but could not come close.
June 14, 1982–Former Dolphin Reese, after undergoing treatment, recounts in a national sports magazine his escalating drug involvement in the five years since his arrest. He identifies teams–San Diego, New Orleans and Miami in particular–and players with drug problems, focusing on San Diego running back Chuck Muncie. The story is controversial, initially prompting denials and disclaimers, particularly from Muncie. But its impact is undeniable as players increasingly reveal their involvements and treatments.
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January, 1983–Former Miami star running back Eugene (Mercury) Morris is sentenced to 20 years in prison for cocaine trafficking and another five years for conspiracy.
February, 1983–St. Louis linebacker E.J. Junior pleads guilty to a charge of cocaine possession.
July, 1983–Rozelle suspends Junior and three other players, Cincinnati Bengals Pete Johnson and Ross Browner and Saint George Stemrick, without pay for the first four games of 1983 because of cocaine use.
4 former players named here.pete johnson came to miami and played briefly
Try
I don’t recall Steak and Ale. Not sure if they had any in my neck o’ the woods.
Least in CT round where I grew up Steak and Ale the place where you get served underage…..a certain respect came with that. It was sorta a Sizzler-type spot though.
The one we went to was better than sizzler but it was a chain.
I believe the one I went to was in Ramsey, NJ.
Not sure of their range.. used to be one on Killian @ Kendall. I know that doesn’t mean much to you, but that’s the one I was familiar with…
Page 86 is down the street from Area 51.
http://www.instreamsports.com/alpha/blog/2012/05/17/mvpieces-don-reese-si-cover
Or wherever Jimmy Hoffa is buried
¿Dónde está página 86?
tell me what comes up when you load the link. what page? 76 or 77 . I don’tlike people belittling me when I know I’m right. have you ever known me to provide false info. The page doesn’t let me copy and paste. maybe lookit up through google books first but the link I have works fine.Does the last page end with a unfinished sentence? You guys are wasting my time….
It only goes to Page 76 — no one is belittling you — you posted a link claiming there is stuff on Page 86 my link goes to Page 76 only and I ran a google search and same thing — only goes to Page 76.
I am also able to toggle through pages, like jetsssuck. There is arrows at the top of the page that allows me to view other pages.