By:  Randy Campbell (OLD DOLFAN)

GAME 11: NOV. 27, 1972 (Monday) – ST. LOUIS at MIAMI

The Miami Dolphins hosted the St. Louis football Cardinals on Monday Night Football the 11th week of the Perfect Season.  This franchise (now known as the Arizona Cardinals) began way back in 1899 as the Morgan Athletic Club in the rough Irish section of the south side of Chicago.  It is the oldest continuous football franchise in pro football history.

In 1920, this team, known as the Chicago Cardinals, joined the American Professional Football Association, which soon became the National Football League.  In 1925, sensational halfback Paddy Driscoll led the Cards to victory in Comiskey Park over the Pottsville Maroons in the NFL Championship 1959_Pennants_Cardinals-300x216Game.  The Chicago Cardinals were purchased in 1932 by Charles Bidwell, Sr., a wealthy Chicago businessman, for $50,000.  After 15 unremarkable seasons, Bidwell went on a spending binge acquiring Charlie Trippi, Marshall Goldberg, Elmer Angsman and rifle-armed quarterback Paul Christman.  This “million dollar backfield” got the Cardinals to the 1947 NFL Championship Game where they defeated the Eagles 28-21.  In 1948, the Cards lost a rematch in the title game 7-0 to Philadelphia.  Eventually, the Cards sank back into mediocrity.  In 1960, Bidwell moved the team to St. Louis, where they shared Busch Stadium with the St. Louis baseball Cardinals.  From 1960 through 1971 this football team continued their losing ways, failing to make the playoffs one single time.  1947 seemed like a million years ago to Cardinal fans!

The 1972 edition of the football Cardinals put together another losing season.  After starting the campaign 2-2, St. Louis went 0-5-1 in their next six games.  At 2-7-1, the red birds already had been eliminated from playoff contention. Wilson_Larry_Action-150x150 Quarterbacks Jim Hart and Gary Cuozzo combined for 10 touchdowns and 16 interceptions during the first 10 games.  Their top two running backs, Donny Anderson and Johnny Roland, averaged 3.5 and 3.9 yards per carry, respectively.  Chicago’s best known wide receiver. future broadcaster Ahmad Rashad, had 29 receptions for 500 yards and three touchdowns.  Future Hall-of-Fame tight end Jackie Smith was infrequently utilized during this season.   Future Hall-of-Fame defensive back Larry Wilson was the leader of the Cardinals defense.  Many experts consider Wilson one of the 10 best safeties to ever play the game.

This contest would represent the Miami Dolphins third appearance on Monday Night Football.  The Dolphins would go on to win their first seven appearances before finally losing a Monday Night Game in 1975.  Head coach Don Shula was concerned that his players were still caught-up in the excitement of their dramatic, heart-pounding, win over the New York Jets eight days ago.  He sensed the team lacked focus as they prepared for this nationally televised game.  The Don of Miami wasn’t about to let his team slack off.  Practices were intense, even though few thought this game would be competitive.

ABC promoted this game as a chance for many Americans to see the undefeated Dolphins for the first time.  Remember, there were only three major TV networks at this point in history.  Most games were regionally televised during the regular season, so many fans had seen very little of the Dolphins run to perfection.  “Are these Dolphins really that good?  Or are they just lucky?” asked Howard Cosell.  “We’ll know in a couple of hours” replied Dandy Don Meredith.

Wide receiver Paul Warfield was banged-up in the ferocious Jets’ game.  Shula decided to start speedy Otto Stowe in place of the all-pro wide receiver.  In the first quarter, Dick Anderson recovered a fumble at the St. Louis 29.  Earl Morrall drove the Dolphins down to the two yard line.  Jim Kiick found a narrow seam and scored, giving Miami a 7-0 lead.  A lethargic second quarter saw Jim Bakken and Garo Yepremian trade field goals for a 10-3 score at intermission.

After the obligatory halftime highlights from Sunday’s games, Cosell and his crew came back on the air.  “The Dolphins certainly didn’t blow me away with their first half performance,” said Cosell.  “Nothing that’s happened here tonight has blown me away,” said Meredith, perhaps in a veiled reference to his alledged marijuana smoking during football broadcasts.

The Dolphins would make a stronger impression in the second half.  Larry Csonka led a 69-yard Miami drive into Cardinals’ territory in the third quarter.  St. Louis moved their linebackers and a defensive back closer to the line of scrimmage.  Seeing this, Earl Morrall tossed a 37-yard bomb to Otto Stowe who easily beat his man for a touchdown!  St. Louis tried to respond.  But intense pressure by 6-foot-6 defensive end Vern Den Herder caused a wild pass that was picked-off by Lloyd Mumphord.  Mumphord returned the interception 28 yards for a touchdown and the Dolphins were in full control, leading 24-3 after three quarters.

After a short Leon Burns TD run for the Cards, Earl Morrall and Otto Stowe hooked-up for a 27-yard scoring strike midway through the final quarter.  The final score was Miami-31, St. Louis-10.  On the night, Morrall completed 12 of 19 passes for 210 yards and two touchdowns to Otto Stowe.  Larry Csonka rumbled for 114 yards on only 16 carries.  The “No Name Defense.” led by Den Herder, Anderson and Mumphord, stymied the St. Louis offense.

 Next up: A date with the New England Patriots in Foxborough.   The 1972 Miami Dolphins were now 11-0.

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  1. wyoming85 says:

    Damn straight!
    Miami wins again!

  2. jetsssuck says:

    Piggy remember when you said yesterday u visited the players family on flamingo and miramar prkwy well did you know H. Norman Schwarzkopf, Jr lived in that area when he was alive.He lived in a modest house maybe it was his second home since the southern command is located down here.

  3. Try Pod says:

    The Dolphins win again? I’m starting to see a trend, here…
    Safe travels, OD.

  4. jetsssuck says:

    I remember this game as one where i was excited to see their safety and QB for St.Louis. The monday night games were always exciting. The west end zone would smell of pot half way across the stadium. The NFL didn’t have professional cheerleaders as in today’s NFL. The Dolphin cheerleaders were young kids and they were located in the west end zone floor lower level. I knew one who was in my school.

  5. son of a son of a shula says:

    Y’all sound like you did last year about Bortles the way you talk about Perriman. It’s laughable, truly is. Bortles was a legit early first rounder as is Perriman.
    He didn’t run at the combine y’all, that’s why his pro day was so impactful.
    Would it help if I told you UCF beat BYU last year in a nationally televised game?
    UCF was the #10 rank team in the nation in ’13, after Bortles and Perriman beat Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl.
    Breshad isn’t unpolished, your scouting magazine is.

  6. Mike E. says:

    I like when Sonny’s undies get all twisted. lol

  7. Mike E. says:

    OD – A masterful job of storytelling once again sir! I guess the Cardinals like safeties named Wilson because the ARZ Cardinals had Adrian Wilson, a very good safety in his own right.

  8. Mike E. says:


    If it means anything, NFL.com has Perriman ranked 3rd, and always has, right behind Cooper #1 and White #2.

    • Mike E. says:

      Another important tidbit – Hickey doesn’t care what everyone else thinks, he liked Ja’Wuan James, and took him in the 1st RD although everyone else thought it was a reach. I never did, and I expected that to happen. Don’t be surprised if WR is our pick, and Cooper-White-Parker are off the board that we go Perriman if Hickey likes him.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        I have Perriman over Parker simply for toughness. Perriman is a beast, Parker looks to be dainty at times. You are correct though Hickey gets his man, so we’ll see.

  9. Mike E. says:

    I think the Dolphins should play on Wednesdays, we NEVER lose on Wednesday.

  10. Mike E. says:

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY HULK! Have a great day brother!

  11. son of a son of a shula says:

    Happy B-day Hulkster, a little gamma ray cake tonight perhaps?

  12. son of a son of a shula says:

    Mike E have a good day bro I have to run. I’ve been wrapped in a big project and its killing my blogging time.

  13. Mike E. says:


    So many wants, so few picks. There are many players I’d love to have in the 2nd RD, and that’s where I figure McKinney goes. Small chance he could make the 1st RD, and also a small chance he could last until the 3rd.

  14. Tim Knight says:

    OD, love the history you add to these articles besides the game.

  15. Tim Knight says:

    Whoever we pick in the 1st he needs to be an impact guy.

  16. Tim Knight says:

    Son wrapped in a project.

  17. jetsssuck says:

    Nokia Agrees to $16.6 Billion Takeover of Alcatel-Lucent.

  18. Mike E. says:


    It’s all crazy money. I can’t even fathom that much money. I was just kidding.

  19. jetsssuck says:

    Mike E—did you get the info yesterday that Shula let his players hydrate with beer during practices 1 yr? You guys should look it up–true fact…

  20. D says:

    If we trade up, you have to think it will be for future picks, most likely next years 1 if we are moving up to top 8-10.

    • Mike E. says:

      I hate that. I’ve explained why. Next year Suh is about $28M, if we don’t give Tanny a new contract, his salary will be I believe $16M, plus all the other high salaries like Grimes etc… We’ll need to add talent through the draft, we won’t have the luxury of spending in FA.

      • D says:

        Not a fan of it either, but i also think impact player this year is important. If they made a trade like that, im hoping at the very least i can feel ok about it afterwards, like know we got someone who was going to really impact our team in a pivotal way. I think more likely we wont be doing any move up in the first, and i think the players we have brought in on private workouts/interviews shows we are building alternates to alternates of peopl ein the first we could take and stay put at 14 or even trade back.

  21. Al in MIA says:

    Not sure what to think of Perriman. The doubts come from lack of volume in targets. His catching mechanics are not ideal but it works for him. I don’t have the resources to watch every route he’s run but he is the son of a former NFL player and I’m pretty sure route running is not a problem for him (his dad taught him how to play, probably was his biggest critic, and the fruit doesn’t usually fall far from the tree talent wise). NFL front offices love blood lines as if its some sort of validation that the talent will work at the next level (whether as false as it may be; that thought exists). His speed is undeniable and his concentration worked in the most critical moments of UCF comeback wins and that’s all i know.

  22. Al in MIA says:

    16.6 B for so so technology …and here we are complaining that the team is spending 10 mill per year on some so so players lol.

  23. Try Pod says:


    • stangerx says:

      CNN)—[Breaking news update at 10:23 a.m. ET]

      Jurors in the trial of former New England Patriots player Aaron Hernandez have found him guilty of first degree murder, which carries a penalty of life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.

    • Try Pod says:

      Hernandez guilty on all charges.
      Let’s see if Pouncey wears a free Aaron Hernandez hat/t shirt.

      • stangerx says:

        Since none of the other two in the car folded, I could gave seen it going either way especially with how long the jury had been out.

  24. Mike E. says:


    Don’t you think we could get an impact player at #14? I do, I definitely do.

    • Mike E. says:

      As far as the trade back, I think it would be fine too. I’ve heard Bill Polian, Gil Brandt, Pat Kirwan all say that this class is almost completely even pick #15 through #50, or thereabouts. A trade back, IMO, would be ideal for us, if the guy we really wanted isn’t there.

      • Tim Knight says:

        The draft is often like that. That’s probably why there are rumors of us wanting to trade up to get special. If not we probably will trade down if we can.

  25. D says:

    Anyone hear about the new cyborg roach? Its something im pretty sure they have had in government sectors for a while, but now they are promoting it as a humanitarian technology. Electric impulses are sent through the antenna of a roach from a tiny power pack attached to its back that allows for its movements to be controlled. Also in that pack is a tiny microphone, speaker, and camera allowing the “driver” to see where its going, and what you could hear from its general location. They plan on using it in the private sector to navigate rubble after earthquakes, etc, and find trapped survivors. Not trying to be all “conspiracy theory” but generally way technology works is government has things WAY before we ever see it, so i can bet the application that you see in the movie “Fifth Element” is a very likely application for them. I guess now we all have even more reason to squish those bastards than ever before.

  26. Mike E. says:

    Good. Hernandez was a lowlife thug. No, I don’t think Pouncey will say another word about Hernandez.

  27. Tim Knight says:

    Mike E, I read on one of the sites that the team wants to re-sign Tannehill before the 1st game.

    • Mike E. says:

      I did too. I think that would be best for a lot of reasons. I think he’s shown enough to be all in with him. He’s improved every year. He still needs to improve, but I think he will. Also, his salary next year is $16M if we don’t do a new contract. The biggest reason is because now, you can sign him at a “reasonable” contract. If he blows it up this year with 35 TD’s and 4500 yards, his salary goes waaaaay up.

  28. Al in MIA says:

    Bell labs current location is there by the township where I used to work at (Berkeley Heights, NJ but Bell labs is in Murray Hill technically I believe). It’s not the original location of course They are just North of I-78 on the other side of the hill the interstate runs by. One of the locals I worked with (age 60 when I was at AIG) worked for AT&T there for many years (his mother worked for them as well from the same area) told me that the old copper roof of the facilities in Murray Hill, NJ was sold/used in the remodeling of the statue of liberty in the 80s because it was of the same copper grade that was needed on statue of liberty for repair.

  29. Ken says:

    Bye bye Hernandez

  30. Al in MIA says:

    I heard on another site that the team would entertain an offer to acquire Philip Rivers …oh what, LOL.

  31. The Flying Pig says:

    Aaron Hernandez found guilty

    (Piggy pops open champagne)

    • Al in MIA says:

      I don’t really celebrate things like that. It is what it is. Someones family was ruined (maybe several) and justice needs to be served in our nation of law & order. Hopefully the jury made the right judgement based on the evidence presented (i don’t know of what was presented; i didn’t follow the case in detail or was I present on the jury for other pertinent info).

      • Ken says:

        Justice was served had his dna at scene

      • Al in MIA says:

        I hear ya. Eventually all things in the dark come to light eh?

      • stangerx says:

        The defense admitted he was at the scene (sorta had to), but claimed he didn’t know the murder was going to go down. Given that two other guys were there and no one was talking, the jury had a much finer view of reasonable doubt than the one for OJ did.

  32. Mike E. says:


    What site did they say we want Rivers? I think that’s insane.

  33. Al in MIA says:

    Going back to yesterday’s comments, of the big upscale chain places in the US, I prefer Capital Grille over the likes of Smith & Wollensky, Ruth’s Chris, & Morton’s.

  34. D says:

    San Diego would be a fool to deal Rivers, though its probably the best time for them to do so since he is up for contract next year. Best time for them to get really good value for him, but i think they set their team back 5-10 years at very least doing so.

  35. Al in MIA says:

    Mike E,
    Twitter was blowing up the last 2 days talking about the Chargers offering up Rivers. Apparently Rivers wants out and the Chargers want to start from scratch again with a new QB. It’s probably just BS but it’s funny none the less (water cooler talk). The Dolphins angle just comes from the ‘win now’ mentality of maybe the owner.

  36. Al in MIA says:

    The Rivers idea comes from a 3 year win target before an eventual blow up instead of banking on incremental gains.

  37. Tim Knight says:

    I doubt the Chargers and Rivers part ways when everyone knows finding a good QB is the hardest thing to do in the sport.

  38. Happy Birthday Hulk! Aaron Hernandez got what he deserved, at least he did not get away with murder the way O.J. did.

  39. Ken says:

    Rivers may force deal if he won’t sign a long term deal and won’t commit to going to LA

  40. Tim Knight says:

    Happy Birthday Ke Ke Ke Ken!!! LOL

  41. stangerx says:

    In other legal news: “Shelly Sterling’s victory Tuesday in Los Angeles Superior Court will force V. Stiviano to surrender a $1.8 million duplex and return $800,000 lavished on her in cash handouts and several luxury cars, including a Ferrari, during a shadowy relationship with Donald Sterling.”

    She gets to keep her 15 minutes of infamy though.

  42. D says:

    I really thought Hernandez would walk on this one but probably be convicted in the other trial. The Defense really shredded the circumstantial evidence in this case, and then the deliberation of almost 7 days would usually lead to an acquittal. Rare to see that long of a deliberation for a conviction.

    They probably did him a favor. Snitches get stihes and he tried to dump blame on his banger buddy probably would have gotten him dead, and possibly still will. Id be afraid if i was his fiance/child right now. They may go after them.

  43. stangerx says:

    He’s a year older, but does the Hulk ever actually age?

    Have a good one Ken.

  44. Mike E. says:

    LOL @ Tim! I used to love saying that.

  45. Mike E. says:

    if the Chargers do trade Rivers, they can draft his replacement at #2, and maybe get an additional pick in this draft of next years. They ain’t winning with rivers, so, it wouldn’t be crazy to do that.

    • D says:

      They cant drat a replacement for Rivers. You have 0 QB’s in this draft that replace Rivers even 5 years from now.

    • D says:

      I agree his value right now is about as high as they can expect it ever getting. Next year his contract is up and no one will try to trade for him knowing he likely wont re-sign with them anyways (He apparently is anti the LA move, so i guess a lot hinges on that). I do think though the statement about replacing him being easy isn’t accurate, i dont see a QB this year or next year that will come close to replacing him, probably ever.

      • Mike E. says:

        Replacement as far as playing QB. Not saying anyone is going to do what he can do right now, but i don’t think SD is a contender with Rivers, or even close really, so, it makes sense to me.

      • D says:

        That may be true, but do you normally think moving either further away is a smart thing? Think of it this way, right now they may need XYZ to get a championship run established with Rivers. Now take Rivers away. You still need XYZ, and a HUGE A. To me you only make it hard to ever get yourself into championship form by doing that. It would be equvalent to saying we should have traded Marino away in early 90’s. Knowing what WE know about replacing a franchise QB, should be a prime example of why you should only do it if you dont give a hell about the next 10 years.

  46. Ken says:

    Thanks all for the birthday wishes

  47. Ken says:

    I am not surprised by the verdict at all. When defense admitted he was at scene I kn it was all over

  48. finfanrob says:

    fuck ken’s birthday, this is the last day of tax season what is wrong with you people

    (seriously happy b day my green basement loving smasher)

    in other news, goodell announced that hernandez suspension will be lifted and the justice system in america is a farce and they should handle issues the way the nfl does. everyone is guilty but NE

  49. Al in MIA says:

    The logic with Rivers is seeing how it worked for Denver (big boost in team play) I guess with a less able QB (in physical terms) so as long as the team is only a QB away.

    Here’s a dated article from Jan of 2014 but while some of the data is exagerrated it does mention some of the obvious things of Rivers game.


  50. D says:

    Ken says:
    April 15, 2015 at 11:18 am
    I am not surprised by the verdict at all. When defense admitted he was at scene I kn it was all over
    I actually thought it was crafty to do that. Understand the lawyer didnt represent Hernandez’s buddy, and Hernandez wasnt on trial for accessory, so that basically throws a big chance at reasonable doubt in there by copping to a crime your not on trial for and sticking the actual blame for what you are on another person. If they have any doubt he actually murdered him, they couldnt convict him. Thinking that maybe someone else did, is that doubt. Obviously didnt work, but i think it was pretty crafty.

  51. D says:

    Ken says:
    April 15, 2015 at 11:16 am
    Thanks all for the birthday wishes
    Oh and happy birthday, hope your not as old as Mike E today.

  52. Mike E. says:

    Hernandez . . . .

  53. Al in MIA says:

    Agree with you and steaks. I tend to stick to local places and while I rarely eat steak these days, when I do, I like em medium rare as always and with minimal to no seasoning (just salt & pepper would be minimum to me). I really just like to taste the steak for what it is so that’s where the whole quality of beef & aging process comes into play. Local places at times aren’t sophisticated enough for this but none the less do cook well with what they got and are not crazy expensive. In the end, how great a steak tastes is only a 5-10 minute enjoyment lol.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I don’t eat steak a lot either but when I do I like them with minimal seasoning as well. Most of the time when I have steak it’s when I grill them at home.

  54. Al in MIA says:

    The funny thing with OJ is that he eventually went to jail doing another silly thing.

    • D says:

      Him rubbing shit in the public’s face by writing a book that basically outlined how he woulda done it probably didn’t help him either lol.

  55. Ken says:

    The funny thing my dad was a CPA

  56. Al in MIA says:

    Happy BDay Ken!
    I saw on my weather app (covers 5 cities) that it will be 70 up in the NYC area..your area as well i assume. Enjoy the weather!

  57. Mike E. says:


    Ken is middle aged, not from the middle ages like me. lol

  58. Tim Knight says:

    This is a portrait of Mike E that he got for his last birthday.

  59. stangerx says:

    Hernandez’s biggest mistake of all was not hiring the one man who could have gotten him off.

  60. Al in MIA says:

    Is the wind blowing in from the East by you? I always remember what a different it made whether it was onshore/offshore winds since the water is still cold.

  61. stangerx says:

    James Walker says Wake could be poised for big season. Can’t argue with that.

    You can’t double both Suh and Wake. That would mean four guys on two. And unless their is a running QB that would leave the D playing with nine against six on the offense.

  62. Bananas Foster@geauxcrimson
    Urban Meyer thinks Hernandez is guilty and should have to sit out an entire game for this

  63. BoulderPhinfan says:

    happy b-day ken. Hope you have a great day!

  64. Al in MIA says:

    Didn’t take long for some of Hernandez’ buddies to chime in via Twitter:


    10:41 AM – 15 Apr 2015

  65. Al in MIA says:

    I think Mitchell stands to benefit more than Wake

    • D says:

      Think everyone on the 1st and second level of our defense benefits a bunch. No matter how you slice it, teams have to focus on him, and that pretty much makes a lot of things easier/better.

  66. wyoming85 says:

    I’ll take it!


  67. The Flying Pig says:

    Happy Birthday Ken

    • The Flying Pig says:

      • D says:

        Being diabetic i cant have cake, so last year my wife for my birthday made me a “man cake” which was a big hamburger loaf the size of a true cake with cheese between the layers and green peppers and sauteed onions, topped with bacon like this.

  68. jetsssuck says:

    D says:
    April 15, 2015 at 10:29 am

    Anyone hear about the new cyborg roach? Its something im pretty sure they have had in government sectors for a while, but now they are promoting it as a humanitarian technology. Electric impulses are sent through the antenna of a roach from a tiny power pack attached to its back that allows for its movements to be controlled. Also in that pack is a tiny microphone, speaker, and camera allowing the “driver” to see where its going, and what you could hear from its general location. They plan on using it in the private sector to navigate rubble after earthquakes, etc, and find trapped survivors. Not trying to be all “conspiracy theory” but generally way technology works is government has things WAY before we ever see it, so i can bet the application that you see in the movie “Fifth Element” is a very likely application for them. I guess now we all have even more reason to squish those bastards than ever before.
    sounds real neat.

    • D says:

      Like everything it has really good potential for humanitarian use, but also has really high potential for abuse as well lol. I thought was pretty neat though.

      • jetsssuck says:

        I’ve heard of similar stories of caterpillars that can be used to destroy agricultural crops to weaken enemies.

  69. Tim Knight says:

    D, that burger cake sounds awesome.

  70. Tim Knight says:

    I’m working on some reports and I came across the names Louis E. Schwing and Donald M. Sandercock II. LOL

  71. jetsssuck says:

    Being diabetic i cant have cake, so last year my wife for my birthday made me a “man cake” which was a big hamburger loaf the size of a true cake with cheese between the layers and green peppers and sauteed onions, topped with bacon like this.
    here’s something I pulled off the net concerning your daily glucose reading between A1C tests—–This can give you an idea of where you stand before taking your a1c

    The American Association of Diabetes Glucose Trials has come up with a new and improved equation to relate A1c to mean glucose developed using “hundreds of thousands of readings” and CGMS data.

    It is the A1C-Derived Average Glucose (ADAG) formula:

    Measured in MMOL/L: Average Glucose = 1.583 * A1c – 2.52

    Measured in mg/dl: Average Glucose = (1.583 * A1c – 2.52)*18.05

    Using this formula:
    4% = 69 mg/dl
    5% = 97 mg/dl
    6% = 126 mg/dl
    7% = 155 mg/dl
    8% = 182 mg/dl
    9% = 211 mg/dl
    10% = 239 mg/dl

    In short, 1% of A1c equates to a difference in mean glucose of 29 mg/dl.

    • jetsssuck says:

      you can eat cake —-it just has to be without sugar…pumpkin and several others. google diabetic cakes and I’m sure you will come up with several.I use splenda .I have tried several artificial sugars but this works best for me.

  72. getterdone says:

    Mike E. says:
    April 15, 2015 at 10:31 am
    As far as the trade back, I think it would be fine too. I’ve heard Bill Polian, Gil Brandt, Pat Kirwan all say that this class is almost completely even pick #15 through #50, or thereabouts. A trade back, IMO, would be ideal for us, if the guy we really wanted isn’t there.

    YES, I keep pounding the table for a trade back if we get a dance partner.

  73. getterdone says:

    OD, nice reading the forgotten names of yesteryear.
    Otto Stowe, Lloyd Mumphord, Vern Den Herder….thanks.
    Next up, beating the NE Pasts.

  74. getterdone says:

    Happy Birthday Ken, wishing you a fun, safe, and Blessed one, & many more!

    • jetsssuck says:

      happy birthday man. I wish I knew which ken we are talking about since this blog has several that really had me confused when meeting everyone at dave and busters. Enjoy yourself

  75. jetsssuck says:

    Ignite Restaurant Group Inc IRG I bought yesterday at 3.75 and set a order to sell at 3.85(one cancels another) I thought yesterday. Well with all the commotion from this blog yesterday I guess I messed up the order. Well I just sold at 3.97. Thanks Guys….

    • getterdone says:

      Ahhh, a day trader eh. I’ve always wanted to get into that with commodities and make money sitting at home in my underwear on the computer.
      I used to know an old trucker guy (looked just like David Crosby) that did that, he claimed he averaged about $300-$500 a day. I could never get him to teach me his system…ugh.

      • stangerx says:

        One of my buddies did day trading for like three years. He sold his half of his business and then took that money into like seven times more. He got absolutely crushed when the internet bubble crashed, but to his credit he stopped when his net worth was the same as what he started with and said……”time to get a job again, can’t risk my kids’ future.”

        He got three nice years out of it though.

      • D says:

        Its lucrative but i would say you would want to have at mnimum about 10grand of investment money before getting into it. Will be really slow for a long time if ya arent buying in blocks of 1000+ shares. Also you kinda have to equate it to the idea of playing nickle slots vs dollar slots. You can make a lot of money on the more expensive slots with higher level of volatility, vs going the smaller stock route and making a little losing a little so on and so forth until you slowly build up your money.

      • jetsssuck says:

        Some days are good. Basically you have to be willing to lose 200- to gain 100. U buy stock then you set your limits of what your are willing to lose and u set you upper limit of what you want to sell at. Hopefully u bought at the low point and somepoint during the day u hope it go’s up to your sell point. I buy and try to sell stocks with a daily trading range of 10 cents and if u buy enough you can make some money. IRG is a stock I had no idea about because I just play the daily high/low values that happen all day. I have lost money also but it’s minimized with pre established sell points. That 22 cents from IRG made me 440 but I have lost just as much in single days. investments and trading are risky so I don’t suggest it to people who are not risk takers

      • jetsssuck says:

        me and the wife compete with a pre established amount yearly and I have lost the lost 2 years. She has made some money and last year I got killed as a lot of people have.My stock value lost 50 %plus. I’m doing good this year up 20 something percent while she is down with her tax free municipal bonds and bonds strategy.

      • stangerx says:

        JS — glad you and your wife do that. It’s like a casino. Maybe you win and maybe you don’t but the smart people know the most they will lose when they walk in and stick to that.

    • jetsssuck says:

      IAn example of a lose would DRNE drones I bought them last year at 1.0 each and they currently are at 30 cents each. When we settled at the end of last year we decided to keep this stock because it lost 70 percent of its value and it can only go up hopefully.
      My buying strategy for buying this stock was because I saw them advertising on tv commericial between cnn shows. I became attached to it and it plummeted.

  76. getterdone says:

    Hernandez Life w/o parole, will be in prison 3mi from Gillette Stadium. I hope he hears the roars of the crowd on Sunday’s!

  77. Ken says:

    Piggy brought cake. Weeeeeeeeeee!

  78. getterdone says:

    D & Jestssuck, good pointers above, thanks.

  79. getterdone says:

    Read where RB Melvin Gordon & LB Benardrick McKinney are coming in to visit the Dolphins.

  80. Rhino says:

    Now we know why Hernandez could execute his routes so well.

  81. stangerx says:

    I am such the opposite of a day trader. I like solid, indexed, low fees. Long-term guy.

    The way I figure it 90% of the money in markets is managed by pros (who know more than me) and half of them are wrong most of the time. So I’m better off not paying them and just hitting the middle……maybe that is why I’m always a trade down fan. 🙂

    I’ll give two examples of low cost, well-run and safe options. If you wanted a one stop retirement plan this would be it. 60% indexed to the S&P and 40% in good bonds.


    You want to just join the market straight, this is a real nice S&P indexed Exchange Traded Fund (and given that is like a stock makes it simpler to deal with) from another of the big names.


    • getterdone says:

      Thanks for the info. I mostly agree, the big insiders are the ones that really know what’s going on, and a lot of times they’re wrong too.

    • jetsssuck says:

      I let her handle all the investments from our job 401 plans I’m just a dumb engineering log that doesn’t understand investments. She graduated with a business degree and then got her mba while I quit my mba. I did win our investment challenge 2 years since we started playing.

      • stangerx says:

        Sounds like you guys are just having fun with the competition then, while the nut is stored in the tree. That’s good fun.

  82. jetsssuck says:

    I use TD America as my trading platform and broker which I never use. They charge 9.99 per trade that includes in and out and then you have our uncle sam that get 8-9 cents. So it basically cost 20.10 to make a trade of buy and sell. I like the color charts and the data base excel filtering research I can do but there are other trading companies that charge as low as 10 bucks in and out. I don’t think the minimum acct start up is more than 500 bucks for any of these companies. Stay away from the penny stocks I’ve been burned several times.Good Luck and keep your risks to a minimum with OCO orders.

  83. getterdone says:

    NFL Films guru Greg Cosell said Wednesday that he’d pick Zach Mettenberger over Florida State QB Jameis Winston.
    Seeing as Cosell said last week that he also prefers Winston over Oregon QB Marcus Mariota, it’s safe to say Mettenberger would be Cosell’s No. 1 quarterback if he were in this class. “Mettenberger and Winston are very, very similar in style of play,” Cosell said. “I’d argue Mettenberger is more advanced as an anticipatory thrower and has a little bit better arm.”

    • Ken says:

      I love Cosell but I disagree with this analysis. First Winston does not have the injury history Mettenberg has and Winston moves much better in the pocket

      • stangerx says:

        Thinking Greg Cosell might just be wanting internet time, or maybe documenting for the “I told you so” moment down the road.

    • jetsssuck says:

      my vet has a cat he took from a customer who couldn’t pay him for surgery from getting hit by car. The cat lost his eye. This cat roams the vet place and greets all the customers and pets. The name of the cat is popeye.

  84. stangerx says:

    Keep your daughters safe.
    A third man has been arrested in the gang rape of a woman who passed out on a north Florida beach. The incident occurred in broad daylight last month at the peak of spring break in Panama City Beach. A woman in town for spring break was raped after blacking out behind a popular beach bar and club.

    A video recording captured the assault taking place in front of hundreds of spring breakers. Sheriff Frank McKeithen called it “one of the most disgusting, repulsive, sickening things that I’ve seen.”

  85. Rockphin says:

    I was sitting at the lunch counter in the diner across the street from my office today getting some food and the drunk next to me pokes me and points to the TV saying “sssthey convictressssshed that prick finally” and I looked up to see the ticker across the bottom of the screen telling about Hernandez. The drunk then goes on to say “usshe knowss if he waush a Dolphin, every headline about the case would read “Miamish Dolphin, Aaron Hernandezshhh waush convicted of murder. How come they don’t saysh “New England Patriotshhh Aaron Hernandezshh?” “It’ssh like he wurse never part of that team assh far as the media isshh concerned” in his drunken lisp.

    I thought for a moment and agreed with him. IF he had been a Dolphin we would still be hearing about his connections to Miami.

  86. getterdone says:

    Piggy, bad news on Strong.
    NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reports that Arizona State WR Jaelen Strong is headed to Indy to have his wrist evaluated this weekend.
    “ASU WR Jaelen Strong is among players headed for combine rechecks this weekend. Teams want a status update on the small bone in his wrist,” Rapoport tweeted. The Arizona State prospect has a fractured bone in his wrist, and it’s believed that Strong will likely need surgery at some point.

  87. Mike E. says:

    I was just listening to Mike Francesa on WFAN in NY, and a guy very deadpan calls up and says “thanks for taking my call, OK, so now that the verdict came in on Aaron Hernandez and he was found guilty, what does Goodell now, how many games do you think he gets suspended?

    I expected Francesa to hang up on the guy, but instead, he chuckles to himself lightly, and says, “That’s perverse, but funny” I think it was pretty funny myself!

  88. D says:

    getterdone says:
    April 15, 2015 at 2:56 pm
    Read where RB Melvin Gordon & LB Benardrick McKinney are coming in to visit the Dolphins.
    McKinney has now interviewed with us like 4 times. Id say they are at least pretty intrigued by him. Again, maybe not most polished guy for a right now plug and play ILB, but he is someone that could start at OLB and eventually move inside i think. Cant teach his size/athleticism. He has what most the other candidates dont.

    • Mike E. says:

      Not as interested as you are! 😉

    • Tim Knight says:

      Isn’t he considered kind of stiff though which to me hurts him athletically. He’s big and fast but not so stop and go flexible.

      • D says:

        No, but he does play a bit upright which is bad for a taller guy as it causes them to lose leverage battles if the OL get in on their bodies. I only saw real kind of technique break downs and/or flaws when he was in the middle, so i do feel he needs some development there. Paul Dawson has similar issues and likely would have to begin a career at OLB. Dawson and McKinney pretty close on most points, with exception that McKinney is more athletic, and Dawson seems to have a little better instincts, and commits plays a little quicker.

        I still like McKinney best of all the prospects because i think eventually you will get more rom him than the others, each prospect this year is kinda so so, Kendricks is best right now product, but i think he gets eaten alive by RB’s and TE’s at the next level. They are all going to need some work.

    • getterdone says:

      His size & strength sticks out. A plan B in the middle if Misi gets nicked up or can’t handle the spot. Don’t forget McKinney can play the SAM too.

  89. Brian in NY says:

    I would be surprised if we drafted Perriman in the first if we are thinking Mckinney ing the second; that would have us drafting two upolished guys.

  90. getterdone says:

    The fact we keep looking at McKinney says the FO really wants to stop the run once and for all finally. Suh was the start of all that obviously.
    He has an insane 40.5″ vertical for a 6’4 246lb man. That could result in some deflected passes as well.

    • D says:

      He has speed to run with RB’s and height to be solid defending TE’s. Id tak him in the second, start him at SAM and get him ready to take over for Misi next year.

  91. D says:

    McKinney just needs some coaching i think. I havent seen anything when i watched tapes that i didnt think was fixable, but again thats a gamble we might not be willing to take. I think McKinney has potential as a 2nd round selection for us if he makes it that far.

  92. The Flying Pig says:

    Whats a little trotter injury to a guy like Strong – NOTHING!!!

  93. Brian in NY says:

    Happy Birthday Ken!

  94. The Flying Pig says:

    I didn’t mention it earlier

    Great write up
    I can’t wait to Squash the patriots next week

  95. stangerx says:

    BrandonSpikes51 @BrandonSpikes51
    10:41 AM – 15 Apr 2015
    Can someone please tweet him and explain how it works?

  96. stangerx says:

    Where Aaron went after the conviction>

    “Hernandez is being processed at MCI Cedar Junction, which is in Walpole, just 1.6 miles from Gillette Stadium, where the former Patriots star played football.”

    He may or may not stay there, but it is also only one of the two maximum security places in Mass.

  97. jetsssuck says:


    any of you think paul warfield wore number 42 because of Jackie Robinson? I have written the Dolphins and they don’t know the answer either.

  98. jetsssuck says:

    gm shielded from lawsuits concerning faulty ignition switches because lawsuit happened during bankruptcy. This is the company my father swears is the greatest company ever.

  99. Mike E. says:

    2 trade backs, one in the 1st, and one in the 2nd

    Your score is: 7032 (GRADE: A-)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 31 (N.O.): Jake Fisher, OT/OG, Oregon (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 12 (N.O.): Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 22 (DET): Sammie Coates, WR, Auburn (A)
    Round 3 Pick 11 (N.O.): Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami (Fla.) (A)
    Round 3 Pick 24 (DET): Gerod Holliman, FS, Louisville (B)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB, Oregon (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 13: MyCole Pruitt, TE, Southern Illinois (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Gabe Wright, DT, Auburn (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Karlos Williams, RB, Florida State (A+)

    • Mike E. says:

      I would be ecstatic with this draft. Jump around happy.

    • The Flying Pig says:


      Whats with your obsessions with Fisher?
      I hate your first pick – but other than that really good draft

      But as you know by now the liklihood of picking up an extra 2nd and 2 thrid rounders is not exactly strong

      • Mike E. says:

        He’s the next best guy that can play Tackle and Guard. I think he gives us a solid insurance against Albert not being ready, and then a guy who could take a starting G spot when he is, like La’el Collins. He’s rated higher than Ja’wuan James was. Don’t be a hater!! lol

  100. Tim Knight says:

    Redskins WR Charlie Taylor also wore #42. I think it was a common WR # back then.

  101. getterdone says:

    Free agent OG Daryn Colledge has retired from the NFL.
    Colledge was limited to 13 games for Miami last year, struggling with injuries and effectiveness. He made 122 consecutive starts from 2007-2014. A former second-round pick, Colledge spent his first five seasons in Green Bay before finishing out his career with the Dolphins

  102. Mike E. says:

    If you guys like black bean soup, I just made a recipe and the soup was OFF THE HOOK!

  103. Tim Knight says:

    Mike E, Colledge was going through severe migraines when he started to slip. Could have been a result of some head trauma. He probably said it’s best I quit while I’m not totally fucked up.

  104. Tim Knight says:

    I read a report where some teams like Fisher over the other OL.The same with Humphries.

  105. finfanrob says:

    Mike E. says:
    April 15, 2015 at 7:55 pm

    If you guys like black bean soup, I just made a recipe and the soup was OFF THE HOOK!

    unless you are banging my mom and stole her recipe i’ll pass. besides only a cuban can make off the hook black beans

  106. Tim Knight says:

    Mike E, if we stand pat at #14 we might go with one of the OL to the chagrin of some here. LOL

  107. getterdone says:

    Colledge is 33, so he knew his best was behind him in light of some injury/migraine issues.
    I wish him well.

  108. Mike E. says:

    I’m friends with Cubans, that’s close enough. It was really good. If any of you are interested, I’ll put up the link.

  109. steveccnv says:

    Omar Kelly @OmarKelly
    · 14m 14 minutes ago
    “@phillipdilling1: Best position Dolphins have been in in a long time in the draft. Needs vs. depth at positions even favors us.”» 2nded.


    Is there any one position that anyone would be pissed we didn’t draft?

  110. finfanrob says:


    i would like to see it. got to admit they are very difficult to make. so if yours were good i am impressed. you ever make it to tampa i will be glad to take you to ybor city for some authentic cuban food. but i am telling you this, you will be putting out some hand. lol

  111. finfanrob says:

    wow i see they are making another mad max movie. i cant believe they are making it with a white actor too

  112. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, I was answering your question about having a problem with any position in the 1st. LOL

  113. Mike E. says:

    Rob – Sounds great man, I would love to do that. Next time I’m in FLA, we’ll have to make it happen.

  114. Mike E. says:

    Rob – Here is the recipe. Seriously, it was awesome!


  115. finfanrob says:

    Mike E. says:
    April 15, 2015 at 9:01 pm

    Actually, just read your last line, maybe I seem a little too eager. lol

    lmao. you judgmental bastard. just cause i am not married. fine. ok. i am crushed but ok no hand. just some good cuban food.

  116. steveccnv says:

    Nola by 16 at the half over the Spurs. Do the Spurs really not want OKC in that badly that they’d give up the #2 seed?

  117. finfanrob says:


    ok that sounds good but by no means even close to the cuban version.

    there is nothing like christmas eve with black beans, white rice, yuca and pork….. thats right piggy i said pork. even you would be carnivorous

  118. Tim Knight says:

    As we get closer to the draft, I think OL or WR is the pick. Build around Tannehill who we are going to sign to an extension sooner than later.

    We’re carrying a lot of dead cap this year but more comes off next year. That’s what Aponte is paid for.

    Would love to see our horizontal board. Instead of #12 thru #37 vertically you see them by position with very little separation. As an example you have 25 prospects in the 7.0 range at #14 spread throughout say 5 positions. Then the next tier and so on. You have to decide on so many variables – who’s the best football player, the best athlete, smart, passion for the game, articulate and good character.

    The reason we took Ja’Wuan James last year at #19 is because he passed every test. His only real con is he doesn’t have elite feet – that can’t play LT dilemma. Well he did and had his ups and downs like any other young OL. But he did show versatility from a guy who started 40+ games at Tennessee exclusively at RT.

    Don’t lose faith in younger players already on the team taking the next step – we have a lot of them. I think as an org that’s what we’re doing and trying to add special when we can. Don’t be surprised if we trade up.

  119. Mike E. says:

    I dig Cuban food. I’m sure i would love it. I’ve had Mexican black bean, Cuban black bean, and they’re both good. This is different, but I promise it’s really good. Very flavorful.

  120. son of a son of a shula says:

  121. son of a son of a shula says:

    That Rivers deal to Tenn where he has ties to Ken Whisenhut has validity to me. Rivers wants to come back to the East and San Diego is better off getting something for Rivers now instead of him walking after the season.
    But with Tenn showing interest in Mariota that may start a bidding war for the #2 spot.

  122. finfanrob says:

    son of a son of a shula says:
    April 15, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    But with Tenn showing interest in Mariota that may start a bidding war for the #2 spot.

    yep. more blah blah blah. all the rage on tampa radio now is the bucs are taking mariota. it is all bs, no one at all knows what teams are doing. they are just speculating so they can write something

  123. son of a son of a shula says:

    ffr, the Bucs are just saying hey if you want to give a king’s ransom to move up to 2 why not talk to us at #1

  124. Tim Knight says:

    Winston and Mariota aren’t Luck, RGIII and Tannehill. Teams know this. I think those guys would be 4-5 in the 2012 draft and not top 10.

    The media mocksters force teams to pick these guys based on pressure. Don’t buy into it even though they will. LOL

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      I buy in, we know QB stock gets inflated it always does. The Bucs will take a QB so that leaves only 1 – demand beats supply = high market value

  125. jetsssuck says:

    Mike E. says:
    April 15, 2015 at 7:55 pm

    If you guys like black bean soup, I just made a recipe and the soup was OFF THE HOOK!
    ———————————-yeah let me see what you can do…..

    • jetsssuck says:

      5 stars from 376 replies.sounds very impressive I’ll have to try. I usually don’t eat beans that have been preserved through canning but I’ll try.

      • jetsssuck says:

        beans are high in protein like lean steaks. They tell diabetics to eat lots of protein and fat instead of high calorie carbohydrates.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Soak your own beans instead of using canned then follow the recipe it probably wouldn’t be much different.

  126. son of a son of a shula says:

    Tenn. is finally doing the right thing by saying that they do like Mariota, that’s smart of them.
    The Browns are probably salivating to give up the extra first and destroy another QB’s career, a sucker is born every draft.

  127. Tim Knight says:

    Beans, beans, beans, beans, beans, beans, beans, beans, beans!!!! LOL

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