By: Randy Campbell (OLD DOLFAN)




GAME 12: DEC. 3, 1972 – MIAMI at NEW ENGLAND

After beating the expansion Miami Dolphins 20-14 in Miami in 1966, the Patriots went on to lose to the Dolphins for 19 – – –  yes, – – – 19 consecutive years in the historic Orange Bowl. Patriots’ fans consider it one of the great jinxes in sports history!  That streak stands as an all-time NFL record for consecutive losses in the same stadium on a yearly basis.  However, in recent years, New England has held a decisive edge in this AFC East rivalry, winning six of the last seven contests, including the last four in a row.  After the 2011 season, Miami led the all-time series 50-43.

Three weeks prior to this game, the Dolphins slaughtered New England 52-0 in what remains the most lopsided game in the history of this rivalry.  Soon after the defeat the Patriots’ management fired head coach John Mazur and promoted former Green Bay Packer Phil Bengston to the position of head coach.  Very few observers thought this game would be close.  But Bengston promised to work his players hard, stressing football fundamentals, a positive attitude and the avoidance of mistakes.  Bengston knew that, historically, Miami had difficulty playing in colder climates.  He hoped that, with a little luck,  New England could be competitive.

Miami’s offensive coordinator, Howard Schnellenberger, knew that Bengston had not made significant personnel changes on defense.  He told his offense “We scored 52 on them last time.  There’s no reason why we can’t have a similar output this time.”  It seemed like the earl-morrall-240x300Dolphins moved the ball almost at will in the first half.  In the first quarter, Morrall advanced the ball deep into Patriots’ territory. But an untimely penalty and a busted play moved them backwards.  Garo Yepremian’s 36-yard field goal gave Miami a 3-0 lead after one quarter.  In the second period, Morrall mixed running and passing plays, controlling the clock and eating-up plenty of yardage.  But, again, another long Dolphins’ drive stalled, this time at the Dolphins three yard line.  Yepremian’s chip-shot field goal increased the lead to 6-0.  Meanwhile, Jim Plunkett was having another difficult day against the “No Name Defense.”  Young Vern Den Herder and Manny Fernandez were terrorizing the Pats’ offense.  Again, New England punted.  Again, Morrall led his offense on another sustained drive.  This time there were no botched plays or penalties.  Jim Kiick’s one-yard touchdown run gave Miami a 13-0 advantage.  Just before halftime, Plunkett moved his offense past midfield.  Under a ferocious pass rush, Plunkett moved to his right and delivered a perfect strike to Tom Reynolds, who took it all the way for a 36-yard touchdown play!  It was 13-7, Miami, at intermission.

Shula was livid in the halftime locker room.  He told his team they were being outplayed by a 2-9 team.  And he told them there would be “no Perfect Season and no Super Bowl if we keep playing like this!”  On the third play of the third quarter the game changed drastically.  6-foot-6 Vern Den Herder intercepted a Plunkett pass and rumbled down the field.  “I’d never intercepted a pass in high school or college, so I kinda had to think,’What do I do now’?”  Den Herder showed surprising speed as he sprinted down to New England’s 11-yard line.  Three plays later, Morrall tossed a three yard TD pass to Jim Mandich and Miami was in clear control 20-7.  Miami’s next drive produced yet another Yepremian chip-shot field goal.  A few minutes, later, some tough running by Csonka paced a drive to the Pats’ 14.  From there, Morrall threw a 14-yard strike to Marlin Briscoe and the Dolphins were decisively ahead by a 30-7 margin after three quarters.


Don Shula was aware that, in the previous Dolphins-Pats game, Miami’s Jim Del Gaizo had thrown two long bombs in the final quarter, raising the score from 38-0 to 52-0.  He knew the Patriots were unhappy with this.  So, after Hubert Ginn sprinted eight yards for another TD early in the fourth quarter, Shula yanked some of his star players and turned to a more conservative offense, leading 37-7.  Phil Bengston decided to replace Plunkett with back-up QB Brian Dowling.  The Yale product passed for one score and ran for another, making the final tally 37-21, Miami.

One of Miami’s stars this day was their top back, the 237-pound bruiser himself, Larry Csonka.  “Zonk” ran for 91 yards, giving him over 1,000 yards for the second straight year.  Prior to this day, only Jim Brown, Jim Taylor, Leroy Kelly, Joe Perry and Jim Nance had ever run for over 1,000 yards in back-to-back seasons in NFL history.  Csonka was in some very elite company!  And the Dolphins, as a team, also were in elite company.  They were closing in on the all-time NFL record of 2,885 yards rushing by a team in one season, held by the 1936 Detroit Lions.  Soon, the Dolphins would break that record. In fact, they would break many NFL records during the Perfect Season!

Next up: at the dangerous 7-4 New York Giants in Yankee Stadium.  The 1972 Miami Dolphins were now 12-0.



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  1. naplesfan2010 says:

    Rock that is an excellent draft there buddy

  2. jetsssuck says:


    are we going to block the arms shipment or are we providing safe passage for the weapons? White House can’t decide one day from another….

  3. steveccnv says:

    Lol, and so true:

    GM Steve Keim on weighing off-field issues for prospects: “If Hannibal Lecter ran a 4.3, we’d probably diagnose it as an eating disorder.”

  4. steveccnv says:

    son of a son of a shula says:

    April 22, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    …and phooey to Tannehill can’t hit receivers while on his back.
    Quit holding the f’n ball so friggin long. Or hopefully chuck it up to your new big man.

    He needs to have an outlet, leave in on every play a back or TE to block, after they count to 3 release the block and get into an open space, if RT can’t find someone open hit the outlet. Little tommy says you have to try to get positive yrds on every play, I agree. The cheats always have an outlet.

  5. Mike E. says:

    Steve – That’s great bud. Very funny!

  6. dcoralsprings says:

    I understand all these early road games
    Were by request
    More time to fully prep the stadium

  7. dcoralsprings says:

    I’m up in 13’s neck of the woods
    And 55 degrees is cold
    Left S FL at freakin 90 lol

  8. steveccnv says:

    Gigi, you make 3, Phindog and I are in for the SD game.

  9. The Flying Pig says:

    We just signed Greg Jennings too

  10. Mike E. says:

    I just read we signed Jennings! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    Rook to King Sonny! Checkmate!

    La’el Collins, come on down! LOL

  11. Brian in NY says:

    Good signing in Jennings. That really takes the pressure off needing a WR at 14. You guys hoping for an OL just at get your wish…

    • Mike E. says:

      Yeah, that doesn’t mean we won’t take a WR in the 1st, but if we can’t move back, and there’s no one we like there, we shouldn’t have to.

  12. Mike E. says:

    Sonny – That’s possible too. Actually, anything is still possible, but Jennings gives us nice depth at WR.

  13. stangerx says:

    Florio is reporting Jennings was signed to a two-year $8 million deal. Even if that is straight up it won’t break the bank. The draft is wide open.

  14. Brian in NY says:

    Ditto on Gurley Son.

  15. The Flying Pig says:

    Its Trae waynes

    Out mock was right!!!

    • stangerx says:

      Could be. Also hoping how opening we are means other GMs are guessing as well…….yeah thinking trade down as always.

  16. Brian in NY says:

    We really could go in any direction. We have signed a bunch of corners for depth, and hopefully a possible starter emerges from that group. We have signed some OL for depth as well, traded for Stills and now signed Jennings. It’s anyone’s guess who we are picking at this point. I like how the FO is covering their bases so we aren’t necessarily forced to pick a certain position.

  17. dcoralsprings says:

    Great to have a vet in that room
    By no means is WR out in the first
    Covering bases, smart

  18. olddolphan says:

    Phindog,Miss Gigi and Steve at the Fins-San Diego game?? –The Bolts are gonna need more than Marcus Mariota to beat our Fins in Jack Murphy. er, Qualcomm Stadium!! –Can you say “The Dolphins deliver a royal ass-kicking in San Diego??”
    GIGI; It’s GREAT to see you and your man doing well in California!!!! – – Me and Mrs. OD will try to hook up with you guys when you come to Florida for a game!! –Best of luck to both of you!!
    PS:–I’m going to south Fla this weekend to celebrate my brother-in-law Jim’s birthday. –The big party will be at Pompano Pizza with Jim, my sis, and maybe a few of “My Boyz” in attendance. –This is the same JIM who has only missed 3 Dolphin home games IN THEIR ENTIRE HISTORY GOING BACK TO 1966!!

    • stangerx says:

      Give Jim a huge happy BDay for me.

      You check out the schedule? Screwy. Three games at Sunlife in the first eleven weeks of the NFL season.

  19. dcoralsprings says:

    Trade up for a stud
    Or truly BPA at 14
    Let’s go play ball

    • stangerx says:

      Or trade down DC. All our options are in play. Only thing we really need is another LB…..and maybe not even that.

      • olddolphan says:

        YOUNG STANGER; Roger that big hug for Jim. –Ya, it IS a screwy schedule!!–Obviously the BIGGEST game in September is the home game against the Buffalo Chips. We need to send those toe-suckers a clear and unmistakable message that day. –Gotta slightly disagree with you about :the only thing we really need ia another LB.” –I say our #1 need is TWO quality O-Linemen in the first 4 picks. THAT is our biggest need IMHO. the other two picks should focus on an LB and a DB. -NO DOUBT most on this board disagree, wanting a splashy WR and.or the Gurley man.

  20. Brian in NY says:

    This is the same JIM who has only missed 3 Dolphin home games IN THEIR ENTIRE HISTORY GOING BACK TO 1966!!
    That is unreal.

    • stangerx says:

      You ever meet him and bring it up, you are in for a long conversation about why he each one. Reasons like kid’s wedding and major surgery are involved. Think he wishes he had had the Perfect Fan Career. Great guy btw.

  21. Tim Knight says:

    Jahn, I’ve never thought of late Oct. and Nov. as a cold weather games. Every year most teams have to play some games on the road in that time a year in colder states. Those just aren’t brutal months. I bet most of the team doesn’t even wear long sleeves. LOL

  22. Tim Knight says:

    Cool on signing Jennings. That changes things a bit at WR as far as at the top of the draft.

  23. olddolphan says:

    BRIAN: Me and “MY BOYZ” truly are hard core. –Come down to the Fest and I’ll regale you with some hair raising things we did when we were very young and, perhaps, a bit over the top.

  24. dbolt48 says:

    The Jennings signing essentially frees Miamis hand for BPA. Also Allows them to invest in a Dez Lewis or Chris Conley a little later to develop. Both players have #1 WR ability.

  25. Tim Knight says:

    Brian, I agree signing Jennings opens up our options in the draft. Not that he’s a star in his prime and he will change our long-term view, but WR at the top is not really a NEED now because he can still play. Maybe we look at WR in the 2nd or 4th round now.

  26. OD: Thank you so much we are very happy here!! Give my best to Jim and your family, I remember being there with you at Pompano Pizza – good times!! Most definitely I will see you when we are down in Miami for a game! Miss you!

  27. son of a son of a shula says:

    All the best to Jim from Son OD.
    My B-day wish for him is one more Super Bowl to enjoy.

  28. son of a son of a shula says:

    I like the Jennings signing.
    I don’t like the Jennings signing.

    I’m torn a little. I like that he’s a solid vet.
    I want young and hungry players though.

    I like that he frees up the perception of who we may draft.
    I don’t care what other teams think, get the best player you can damn the position.

    Is he an instant progress stopper?
    We still don’t have a big, or a guy who would be a “go to” guy where Hartline was.
    A “just chuck it up” guy.

    Gurley makes sense to me. I don’t want Gordon @ 14.

    • Tim Knight says:

      He’s a pro who will help keep the chains moving and make a big play here and there. He should be a good influence for the younger WRs as well.

  29. Tim Knight says:

    So we signed OL Jeff Linkenbach and Jacques McClendon who are both considered versatile OL to compete in TC. Cool!

  30. Rhino says:

    I, like many here, posted a quite a few weeks ago that Hickey is gonna fill out the roster BEFORE the draft … gambling on a rookie to handle a key position (vs being a bust) is too much of a gamble. BPA… although the LB and OL pickups are not as strong as WR Jennings. Good signing!!!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Paysinger is a STs guy who has some starting experience. The same with Sheppard who was with us last year. They have hung around as pros and have played a good amount of football in the NFL. They’re just not top notch LBs. But in a pinch they can play.

      That said, this is not a top notch draft for 4-3 LBs. Some of them may pan out to be solid but I’m not sure any of them are stars in the making. We’ll see.

  31. getterdone says:

    WOW, so my thoughts were right on Jennings…I knew he was shopping the market halfheartedly until the Phins raised their offer a tad.

    The big thing is he knows Joe & Joe knows him, they spent 6 seasons together.
    But Jennings is declining some, will be 32 soon. We still have to think WR in the draft.
    But agreed, his signing takes pressure off of needing a 1st round receiver, especially trading ‘UP’ for Cooper or White.

    I still think a trade ‘DOWN’ could be in store with the Eagles or another team like the Saints.

    Welcome Greg Jennings!

  32. son of a son of a shula says:

    naplesfan2010 says:
    April 22, 2015 at 7:48 pm (Edit)
    How can we get 2 first round picks in a row?

    To go from 47 to 15 is only 630 points or next years first.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      You still get two firsts and it should be a much lower first at 15 than we should expect to have next year and we still get 2 picks this year but instead of first and second round they are both first rounders and start now.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        I’m in, but … why would San Fran trade with us that way?

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        I dunno, cause we asked nicely lol. They’re fucked anyway so maybe the extra pick next year would be more beneficial to them.

  33. getterdone says:

    Son, if the franchise is trying to win now, then I’m not so sure about Gurley. Miller was dependable and a 1000 yard runner last season on a 15 carry avg, behind a mish mash OL.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      What if we went to 28 rushes per game and the other half were by Gurley?

    • Brian in NY says:

      Ok. Well how about Gurley at 14 and DGB at 47?

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Miller was slated to be the guy who spelled Moreno. Gurley is an f’n beast.

      • getterdone says:

        I just hope Gurley doesn’t go the route of Steven Jackson, who he reminds me of, and who was always getting banged up with his running style. Being on the grass will help Gurley though.

        Anywho, if we are to get Gurley, it may require a trade up.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Yeah, he has shot up as of late.

  34. getterdone says:

    Brian, I like that…a guy like Gurley keeps safeties cheating towards the box, freeing up a big WR like DGB. 🙂

  35. naplesfan2010 says:

    or Gurley at 14 and Kenny Bell at 150 and Darren Waller at 114 and Blake Bell at 149. Throw in AJ Cann at 47 and Jeff Luc @ 191 and we are in the AFC championship.

  36. steveccnv says:

    Now that we signed Jennings and we don’t have to sign a WR at #14 I predict we sign a WR at #14 😛

  37. Tim Knight says:

    I’ve thought this since the end of the season that changes would happen. This team seems to be gearing up to try and win as many games as they can and not keep looking at it like in a year or two. Jennings helps us play this year.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      So does Freeman?

      • steveccnv says:

        I wonder what Jennings thinks of Freeman 😉

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Jennings says “good I have my bitch to carry shit in from my car”

      • Tim Knight says:

        I think Moore is the #2 but Freeman pushes him and tries to reestablish his career and could be a trade option if he has a good TC and PS. Or… we want another guy who has had some success inactive but could possibly play if something happened to Tannehill.

      • steveccnv says:

        Freeman won’t make the team, but he’ll be traded to another team, if he has a good preseason, else he’ll be our insurance during the season, if RT is out a few weeks. Meaning he’ll be called back to the team if RT goes down, having already learned the system.

  38. Brian in NY says:

    I think the “cold weather game” theory is WAY overrated. We are not nearly as bad in the cold as some may think. IMO, some are confusing our mediocre December record somehow with the away gmaes in the cold. Here is our December record since the Tannehill era began:
    December 2014: December 2013 December 2012
    @ NYJ- W @NYJ- W NE- L
    BAL- L @PITT- W @49ers- L
    @NE- L NE- W JAX- W
    NYJ-L NYJ-L @NE- L
    Away 1-1/ Home 1-2 Away 2-1/ Home 1-1 Away 0-2/ Home 2-1
    In the past three seasons, we have had a total of 7 home games, with 6 being in cold weather- we went 3-3 in those games.
    In the past three seasons, we have had a total of 8 home games – we went 4-4 in those games.

  39. getterdone says:

    This is the end result of the deal with Vikings.

    Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley
    Not sure who tweeted this first, but it’s worth borrowing: In the end, Dolphins traded Wallace and a 7th for Jennings, a 5th & cap space.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Slick, but that sounds good when you say it fast. We also gave up a 3rd for Wallace’s possible replacement.

      • getterdone says:

        Not bad, a 3rd rounder for a WR that is still in his rookie contract and already Producing nice results.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Right but Beasley makes it sound like Jennings will come in and replace Wallace and they are totally different in what they do for you.

    • steveccnv says:

      What does he mean worth borrowing, we all already knew this, we didn’t need the putz to write it.

  40. Mike E. says:

    LMAO @ Son’s explanation of why the Niners would trade with us

  41. naplesfan2010 says:

    Hey Pig Sir…can we get a poll going about who we think the FO will pick at 14 ( and maybe 47?)
    Not who we want or who would be best, but who we actually think THEY will pick. Even if it is just the position.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      We can do that, Piggy is the resident Poll master so when he shows up we’ll ask him to get it going.

  42. Mike E. says:

    The Niners actually ARE fucked. That doesn’t mean they would do that, but I’m not sure we’d have to trade up that far anyway. I have a feeling Perriman goes between 20 and 35.

  43. naplesfan2010 says:

    OL, WR, CB, RB, LB … [in that order?]
    I think those are the only viable choices with FS a long shot.

  44. naplesfan2010 says:

    The 9ers are in full on catastrophe mode. They are in need of start right away LB and WR just to get back out of dire straits.

  45. son of a son of a shula says:

    Jennings, at this point, is Hartline but without the incessant falling down.

  46. naplesfan2010 says:

    Hey whoever posted that godam Kenny Bell link above messed me up. Now I want him for KR and deep-ball wideout. He fights for every catch and launches and contorts himself to go get the ball.

  47. Tim Knight says:

    I know a lot of fans want a big WR and I would like that too but I have to say I like Dorsett in this offense at #47. His explosiveness in 3-4 WR sets could be deadly.

    Landry, Stills, Jennings and Dorsett could be a problem for opponents with Matthews in the mix too. Then we have Miller/Williams and Cameron/Sims. Could be a good offense if the OL gets it going.

  48. Mike E. says:


    I gotcha man. La’el is definitely a badass. He would be good on that line, whether it was on the outside or inside.

  49. jahndoh says:

    Holy fuckin’ christ. You guys and weather. Was just defending Gigi a bit. We spend almost the entire month of November in the Northeast. Weather aside geniuses, since when is that an advantageous stretch of football.

    Gigi, you better go to bat for me!

    BTW, I have faced sub zero temps and negative 40 windchills in waist deep snow at 11,000′ in a place where you couldn’t even see a manmade building. You guys probably get shriveled balls walking to toilet at night to relieve your prostate shrunken bladders.


    Fuck off!

    • son of a son of a shula says:


    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Jahndoh says:

    • Tim Knight says:


      Gigi is a warm weather gal. She didn’t need any defense. I was just stating my opinion on it. The Dolphins have been in the AFC East forever with 3 NE teams. It’s not that big a deal. I think it’s tougher to play in SF in the heat for our opponents than it is for us to play at their place in the 30s-50s.

      Jahn, we beat the Steelers in PIT a couple of years ago in the snow. That said we’ll probably get a polar vortex and it will be -20 for those games. LOL

      • jahndoh says:

        Would you shut up! LMAO…Holy shit. If Pickleboy wasn’t so catchy I’d start calling you weathergirl. 😛

  50. naplesfan2010 says:

    I would hate to be in a defensive backfield looking at Jennings, Landry, Stills, and Cameron just by themselves.

  51. jahndoh says:

    Also, I said this yesterday, guess it was missed. I will also be attending that SD game. We have a legit WC Fest in the making. I will bring beer and full tailgating stuff.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Awesome. Get Kong involved too. Remember DrG will most likely go as well.

      • jahndoh says:

        Oh good call on DRG and Kong. Would be an awesome turnout. Manitoba has been known to come to a WC game too….

    • steveccnv says:

      We’ll need full tailgating with that mess of a stadium, better to wait it out then try to get out. Last time I went was a preseason game in the Jimmy era, we were kicking their asses so their fans left early, but reg. season…

      • jahndoh says:

        I don’t mind being the guy who has to wait it out. I’ll get there early and stay late. You guys can park wherever you need to and walk over to my car.

  52. Brian in NY says:

    Remember, the Niners pick at 46 has the potential to screw us big time. Their three biggest needs are LB, WR and DL.

  53. son of a son of a shula says:

    Tim, I do like the bigs but I agree about Dorsett I think he’ll be awesome in the NFL. I’d love to have him.

  54. jahndoh says:


    I’m definitely warming up to the idea of Gurley.

    GDP, don’t know if you saw this about him, but he recently passed a combine Dr. recheck with flying colors. NFL Sirius said he’s on pace to be 100% by camp. His surgery was the simplest of all ACL surgeries because it was a clean tear with no surrounding damage. His Dr said he hasn’t even had any swelling and he’s running already. Take it for what it is, a report, but the combine Drs did the physical, so it’s not just his own camp who’s touting his readiness.

    If he goes the way of Stephen Jackson, we’ll have a complete stud running back for years before his body starts breaking down. If he goes the way of another RB who folks worried about his running style (AP) He’ll be in the running for the HOF. 😉

  55. jahndoh says:

    Son, I didn’t look at the chart, did you discount the 2016 first rounder in your Perriman trade scenario? The general rule is one round discount per year in the future.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      No I didn’t it costs 630 points which is equivalent to a late first rounder so may it may cost more.

  56. son of a son of a shula says:

    Jahn, when I called you Jahn from So Cal I forgot about how much skiing and snow boarding you do shit you’re in cold weather quite a bit.

  57. Randy says:

    Really like Jennings the human being from what I’ve seen with his time here. I actually heard him and his wife on local radio here on this week. His wife actually said they were talking to warm weather teams. And they both seem like quality people. Really good signing because we need some veteran leadership. Landry and Stills are still young pups…and I don’t care how mature or professional Landry seems….there’s still plenty he(and Stills) can learn from a vet like Jennings about how to go about the game and the offseason. Good signing, and I think Jennings can still be productive too.

  58. naplesfan2010 says:

    I agree Jahn. I would have loved to have Stephen Jackson in his prime.
    I watched Gurley singlehandedly beat Clemson whose D was ranked in the top five college defenses. He can put that thing in Beast Mode and take over a game.
    He reminds me of Eric Dickerson, also a back I would have loved on my team.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Did you see that folks?
      An Eric Dickerson comparison. That’s high praise and on the mark.

      • jahndoh says:

        LT called him the best RB prospect to come out since AP. Also high praise from an all-time great. That’s part of what got me thinking about the possibility. If we had a player that dominant at RB it’d go a long way toward getting those DEs to slow up a step on 2nd and 5, 3rd and 3 situations.

  59. Tim Knight says:

    We’re bringing in WRs who can run all the routes. Get another in the draft.

  60. manitobafinfan says:

    Well SD game being Dec 20th kinda pooches us for that one… too close to xmas.. Will hook it up socal one of these times..

    • stangerx says:

      Yo Toba…..sounds like time for another FL Fest trip then. And yeah, I know that is a shot in the dark as far away as you live.

  61. Mike E. says:

    LOL @ Jahn! I figured your Hartline alarm would go off, and you’d be here quickly! 🙂

  62. naplesfan2010 says:

    Brian you are correct. Can’t believe I forgot Carlos Hyde since he went to high school down here in the neighborhood next to mine.

  63. The Flying Pig says:

    The schedule on the sidebar looks pretty awesome doesn’t it?

  64. Mike E. says:

    Dorsett was fast before his pro day, and so was Perriman for that matter. Dorsett ran a sub 4.40 at the combine, he ran a sub 4.35 at his pro day. Perriman didn’t run at the combine. His pro day was, for all intents and purposes, his combine.

  65. The Flying Pig says:


    Or anyone else

    Any suggestions on how many players should be options

    Is the poll “who do you want the dolphins to pick at 14?” Or who do you think they should pick?”

    Who would we have as options?

    • Brian in NY says:

      Maybe do both : who we want AND who we think.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      I think we have all thrown up mocks or let on who we would favor. I think it would be fun to say who THEY the FO is picking. I think you could list say 8 guys and it would be fair (maybe incl. “other” )

  66. Brian in NY says:

    Steve ,
    Wallace didn’t just complain when the ball wasn’t thrown his way, he complained when the ball wasn’t thrown his way when we scored a TD.

    • jahndoh says:


    • naplesfan2010 says:

      That’s what tore it for me. He was truly selfish. He wanted all the TD throws his way. I think he also resented being used to work the ball down the field. He wants to catch the ball without deviating from his straightline sprint, and score the TD untouched.

  67. Tim Knight says:

    The Dolphins ready to play in November. LOL

  68. Brian in NY says:

    I wonder if Shelton drops if we’d consider him.

  69. finfanrob says:

    Randy says:
    April 22, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    Good signing, and I think Jennings can still be productive too

    yeah, now if they will just get a decent qb to throw to them they are all set.

  70. manitobafinfan says:

    Jahn: i am doing some exploring at the moment… always trying to make 2 game for 1 trip… Gotta see what happens with the Fest date, but i am now looking at logistics of fly to Miami for Texans, catch a flight to Baaaston for the Thursday Pats home game, and home from there..as our travel partners are Pats and Atl fans.. all in prelim mode… We Will be at a game SOMEWHERE this year as usghe…

  71. getterdone says:

    Jahn, yes I know about Gurley’s check up. Good stuff from Dr. Andrews, he does amazing work usually.

  72. Mike E. says:


    That’s an interesting scenario. I think if Shelton does fall, he’d be a great player to give us the opportunity to trade back if we wanted to. If we do take him, I think he might have trouble unseating Earl Mitchell right off the bat.

  73. Tim Knight says:

    If our goal is to be stout on defense and have an efficient ball control offense then I get drafting Gurley to pair him with Miller. If we run 22-24 times PG then what’s the point?

  74. manitobafinfan says:

    I too like the Jennings signing.. love the way we are getting set for BPA at many positions…

  75. son of a son of a shula says:

    Piggs if you were our MLB you’d have to have “Grade A” as your number instead of an actual number.

  76. naplesfan2010 says:

    Tim … last year we were 12th in the league at 65 offensive plays per game (Philly was first with 70.) If we go 50/50 then that is 32 run plays. If Miller and Gurley each run 15, they are both fresh late or we run Miller early and Gurley late when his power will be against tired legs or we run Gurley early and Miller late when his speed will be against tired legs. (Game Plan???)
    Then maybe our rushing game won’t run out of gas in our last 2-3 games of the year (in January).

  77. getterdone says:

    Naples, I don’t see us drafting 2 WR’s now. Just one, unless we get a few more picks via trade down.

    We essentially already picked a WR in the 3rd round with Kenny Stills, so that’s 1. We need just 1 more to develop behind Jennings, rotate in as well. I’d love for that to be a Big Possession type WR.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      I agree totally about needin a BIG, BUT our WR corps is the most depleted position group that we have. We lost 11 of our top 15 receivers from last year. We actually need WRs more than any other position because of that and because we throw a lot and we want to run multiple WR sets a lot.

  78. Brian in NY says:

    I love how some are picturing how we would use Gurley in this offense…

  79. manitobafinfan says:

    Son: I was more asking what was with the UCF/Tulane game ?? was it to be a prt of my two for one ?? if so what is the other half ?? or maybe i am just on chemtrails…

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      No I was just throwing it out there for shits and grins.

      • manitobafinfan says:

        LOL, Alrighty then… Continued good job by the FO in this Off Season, So far i give them a Large Passing Grade.. Cant wait to see what presents are under tree next week.. Off to cheer the Jets… Have a great one Peeps… GO PHINS !!!! GO JETS !!!!

      • jahndoh says:

        You had better tell us which Jets Toba..thems fightin’ words!!!! 🙂

      • manitobafinfan says:

        Winnipeg Jets tonight vs yer So Cal Ducks !! Don’t start fighting now.. you have been so happy and agreeable tonight … 🙂

  80. Brian in NY says:

    Legares justice and unbelievable catch. Need to get those bats going Mets.

  81. jahndoh says:

    I don’t see Gurley as a threat to Lamar Miller. I think that’d be the best 1-2 tandem we’ve had since Ricky/Ronnie, and probably better. It’d extend careers of both guys and keep them both in good health for stretch (dare I say? Playoff) runs.

  82. Randy says:

    Anybody who likes Marvel comics stuff should check out the Daredevil series on Netflix. Nothing Earth-shattering, but it’s good. I loved daredevil as a kid.

  83. Tim Knight says:

    I just thought of this.
    Landry = McDuffie
    Stills = a young Jennings (same size and speed when young)
    Matthews = James Jones
    Dorsett = Cobb

    We don’t have a Jordy Nelson who excels on deep crossing routes and taking them to the house like Rice and Taylor did with the 49ers. But we should be able to move the ball and be explosive with that lineup.

  84. jahndoh says:

    Ooh Toba, now we HAVE to fight. I’m a diehard Sharks fan. The only team I hate more then the Yucks is the LA Queens!!!!

    • manitobafinfan says:

      LOL, my Pats fan buddy is a Sharks fan.. that was another game we were hoping for on the Westcoast trip… but alas damn 12/20 aint gonna happen my friend..
      K, Now i am really out.. 🙂

  85. Randy says:

    Thanks, I’m just setting down to enjoy the game, the wild are looking good…big game. Good luck to your team too.

  86. Tim Knight says:

    Toba, go Jets (hockey). LOL

    I have no idea what direction the Flyers are going in so I hope you enjoy the playoff as well as all of you who still have teams in it.

  87. Mike E. says:

    LETS GO METS!!!! 10 in a row baby!

    • Tim Knight says:

      The Amazins!! LOL

      12-3 for the 2nd time in history. It’s all about pitching. Makes everyone’s job easier. The Mets have really good pitching – 64-42 +22. Same as football. 4.3 to 2.8 ratio is winning type stuff. Go Phins!!! 😉

  88. jahndoh says:

    I have to say, the rape allegations are what they are. I don’t know how to handicap them (in terms of his status as a prospect, I hate to make light of such a serious allegation, but nothing was proven and no judgments went against Winston), so I don’t consider them.

    What I have a really hard time getting past is the crableg-gate (thanks, came up with that one myself. :-)). It goes to judgement. It’s horrible judgement. To compound it by lying and claiming they were given to him only to have the market speak up and refute that, well, I don’t know what that says.

    I said and have taken a fair amount of heat for saying I’d take Marriota first overall if I were the bucks, but Jaworski last week said his sources told him Marriota is going to be the pick at 1 and not Winston. We’ll see what happens on draft day, but it’s undeniable, Marriota’s stock literally HAS risen during this draft season and I’ll be shocked if he makes it out of the top 5.

    Congrats Mets fans. Enjoy it, but remember, it’s a long season.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m so not into the QB sweepstakes that I don’t care. But if their is guilt with Winston I don’t want to see him get away with it because of his status.

      In my selfish fandom, I want both to go before we draft. 😉

  89. The Flying Pig says:


    Who is hanging the Golden State banners on this blog!


  90. The Flying Pig says:

  91. The Flying Pig says:

    New poll up

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