FU DRAFT TRACKER
1. Bucs – Jameis Winston (QB)
2. Titans – Marcus Mariotta (QB)
3. Jaguars – Dante Fowler, Jr. (DE)
4. Raiders – Amari Cooper (Samurai)
5. Redskins – Brandon Scherf (OL)
6. Jets – Leonard Williams (DL)
7. Bears – Kevin White (Samurai)
8. Falcons – Vic Beasley (DE)
9. Giants – Ereck Flowers (OT)
10. Rams – Todd Gurley (RB)
11. Vikings – Trae Waynes (CB)
12. Browns (from Bills) – Danny Shelton (DL)
13. Saints – Andrus Peat (OT)
14. Dolphins – DeVante Parker (Samurai)
15. Chargers (from 49ers) – Melvin Gordon (RB)
16. Texans – Kevin Johnson – (CB)
17. 49ers (from Chargers) – Arik Armstead (DL)
18. Chiefs – Marcus Peters – (CB)
19. Brown – Cam Erving (OL)
20. Eagles – Nelson Angholor (WR)
21. Bengals – Cedric Ogbuehi (OL)
22. Steelers – Alvin “Bud” Dupree (LB)
23. Broncos (from Lions) – Shane Ray (LB)
24. Cardinals – DJ Humphries (OT)
25. Panthers
26. Ravens
27. Cowboys
28. Lions (from Broncos)
29. Colts
30. Packers
31. Saints (from Seahawks)
32. Patriots
Admins Predictions
Piggy
1. Alvin “Bud” Dupree (DE)
(Dolphins Trade Down in 2nd round, add a 3rd round, and give up their 4th)
2. Jaelen Strong (WR)
3. Denzel Perryman (LB)
5a. Nick O’Leary (TE)
5b. Charles Gaines (CB)
6. Robert Myers (OG)
The Hulk:
1. Todd Gurley RB
2. Nelson Agholor WR
4. Ali Marpet OG
5a. Jake Ryan LB
5b. Nick O’Leary TE
6 Kurtis Drummond S
Son:
I’m staying with the mock I did a couple of weeks ago.
1 – Amari Cooper
2 – McKinney LB
4 – Nick O’Leary TE
5 – Arie Kouandijo G
5 – Cam Thomas CB
6 – Tyler Varga
Mike Mayock has us taking Kevin Johnson CB – Yuck
Thank you to everyone for sharing all of your pre-draft thoughts and analysis here with us, it’s been a lot of fun. Let’s hope for big things as the real deal begins tonight.
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Mike E.
1. Dolphins go Louisiana and bail La’el Collins out of jail and take him at #14
2. Sammy Coates
4. Jordan Hicks
5a. Charles Gaines
5b. Gabe Wright
6. Gerod Holliman
Finsmob Unleashed 
Here we go! only about 16 hours (maybe less, maybe more) until we pick!
Well at least Son selected Tyler Fucking Varga!
Smells like nervous Pig farts in here! 😉
sorry about that
I had a big breakfast
So, what’s new? Anything interesting going on today?
I was listening to Mike and Mike on the way into work and Adan Schefter was on. He said he has spoken to multiple teams that said they wouldn’t be surprised if La’el Collins went undrafted.
Beer, Teach. Hope you like Corona, as I am into my summer beer mode now.
Don’t drink Yuengling summer wheat….FUCKING HORRIBLE!!!!!!!
Wow. Sounds like his agent isn’t going to be to successful trying to spin this. If the league is that concerned, then it has to be bad.
DBOLT: AS I’ve said before, I don’t drink no Commie beer!!! (Yes, I know, it’s made in Pennsylvania. But, according to Glen Beck, it’s INSPIRED by progressives from the keystone state. So it MUST be a Commie beer!! –YOU follow that?
LOL, I’ll drink Yuengling once in a while, but tend to stick to my ice and light beers. Believe it or not I’m a big fan of Key light and Key Ice.
This draft fell very nicely for me. Shocked Miller’s rankings shifted like they did this late, but I won’t complain:
VIEW EACH TEAM’S DRAFT
14: R1P14
WR KEVIN WHITE
WEST VIRGINIA
47: R2P15
ILB DENZEL PERRYMAN
MIAMI (FLA.)
114: R4P15
G LAKEN TOMLINSON
DUKE
149: R5P13
CB CRAIG MAGER
TEXAS STATE
150: R5P14
WR CHRIS CONLEY
GEORGIA
191: R6P15
RB JOSH ROBINSON
MISS. STATE
Teams telling Schefter they will not be drafting Collins because of situation. Also saying he expects to hear about a trade w/eagles and browns- Bradford for pick, obviously about getting ammo to go after Mariota.
Might the Dolphins take a flier on Collins in round 4 or 5??
I think he is worth a flier a little earlier than that
either a team;s board completely
or he drops from a top 15 pick to a day 2 pick
but I think rounds 4 and 5 is too much
SOMEWHERE IN THE FIRST TWO ROUNDS WE MUST TAKE the meanest, nastiest, most physical offensive lineman available and feed him raw meet (NO PORK) before training camp opens!! – – This roster, as now constituted, can NOT protect Tanny nor can it open enough holes for Miller, Gurley man, or any other running back not named Jim Brown in his prime. With Albert questionable for the month of September, it it IMPERATIVE that we draft at least TWO quality offensive linemen tonight!! THAT is Do-Hickey’s #1 priority!!
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It’s in the low 60’s here in Tampa Bay this morning, heading up to about 78. Great weather for the Bucs to make YET ANOTHER POOR DRAFT CHOICE IN ROUND ONE! Famous Jameis Winston is the pick. And the Tampa police already have an open cell waiting for him. – – TALK to you guyz and galz after work.
raw “meat.”
OD,
In regards to a late round flyer on Collins, it comes down to how serious this situation is. You have his agent telling the media he’s not a suspect, but then you have Schefter saying there’s a good chance he goes Undrafted. It sounds more serious than originally believed, but I guess we will see as it plays out.
first of all: NO trade UP scenarios…(I’m tired of reading these speculations… we don’t have the picks to do that)
1. Gurley RB
2. Perryman LB
4. Poutasi G/T
5. Lippet WR (I’m out of ideas at this point. Not having a third makes me think Piggy is right about trade BACK … but here it is anyway)
6. air pump (we will use it as trade bait with NE)
7. case of sunblock (in case the canopy is not completed in time for the season)
we don;t have a 7th
so expect some fried bacon
I like your air pump idea
I think that Schefter is wrong. It’s not just Collins agent saying he’s not a suspect, the police said that. He’ll be our pick at #14, and everything goes back to normal. he’ll be cleared before the draft.
LOL
I think this is wishful/hopeful thinking, Mike. Teams are tired of being burned, and it will cause teams to pause- at least the less reckless ones.
He has the look of the Kaepersniffer in his eyes
You can;t talk logic with Mike on Collins now….lol
Apologies- I should have asked you if it was hopeful thinking as opposed to stating it. I have no clue as to what will happen. I can speak for myself (as can you), and I would be very leery of drafting this guy, particularly with a high pick. Later rounds I may be more open to it.
wishful thinking
a few months from now there will be an indictment and by the end of 2016 there will be a criminal trial
He may not have any involvement at all
Pouncey didn;t have any involvement with Aaron Hernandez and yet the fact that the police insisted and speaking with him was a cloud hanging over a franchise
Yuengling black and tan is good
Woohoo
Its draft day!
Welcome Alvin Bud Dupree to the Dolphins
….maybe
I’m sure Collins won’t really be the pick. In Collins place, I say the Dolphins take Todd Gurley
I think we should take Collins with our 6th RD pick. Talk about a gamble that could pay off!
The thing is
If you don;t want the headache of s player in that situation
you don;t want it no matter what the cost
I’m not saying he is off everyone;s board
but if I were a GM who did not completely remove him from my board I probably wait until the 2nd round to snag him. A GM won’t take too much heat for that
I am very open to Gurley- and I am in the group that says drafting running backs in the first is wasting a pick. And this is (supposedly) a bumper crop of quality rb’s.
It starts at 8PM tonight, right?
Yes
So from 7-8PM I will covering myself in mud in preparation
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
LOL!!
Try
I’m just playing obviously. If La’el isn’t completely cleared today (eg. He’s NOT the father, and he has an iron clad alibi), he probably will be drafted at some point, but most likely a late RD pick or he’ll go undrafted as Schefter mentioned.
Well, you can never be sure when reading a text what the intention of the author is, so I just wanted to make sure I reset the tone of my response.
Mike the Police said “as of now” Collins is not a suspect. Having represented Police Departments that is legal speak for saying we don’t have enough to name you as a suspect at this moment so we don’t want to do anything that will created liability but we think you are guilty as sin.
I’m not as I would go as far as to say they think he is guilty
but its definately not out of the question that they do and have not named him as a suspect
He is clearly in the realm of a person of interest. He had a romantic interest with the victim and that is always the starting point in a homicide investigation. The fact that they have not cleared him and that they want a face to face sit down is far more telling than any public statement they have made.
It is significant that the Police have not said they have cleared Collins, that he is without qualification not a suspect. It is also significant that they feel the need for a face to face sit down with him. All very bad signs.
http://www.kimballstock.com/pix/PIG/02/PIG_02_LS0033_01_P.JPG
Draft Ready!
Hulk – My client is INNOCENT dammit! I’ll haul your green ass into court myself if you slander him one more time! lol
That sucks for Collins. I hope he wasn’t responsible though.
Sucks if he’s inncoent. If he’s guilty, he deserves to suffer like this.
Right, that’s what I should have said.
It’s really bad timing. If he has nothing to do with it then just horrific timing for him.
So the Hulk and Mike are in bold, Piggy is underlined and Son is just Son.
What are you guys trying to tell us about yourselves?
Bold says it all.
The underline suggests Piggy spends a lot of time on his back, Mike and Ken in bold represents they’re in a secret relationship together and son in plain means he’s still in the closet.
we may as well get hamster avatars
I’m not underlined
I’m standing on top of a bar
LOL…..Coyote Ugly 2 starring the Pig.
I understand that is where we can always find you- @ the bar, on the bar, over the bar, under the bar, in front of the bar, behind bars, barred from other websites…
I only like Ken when he’s the Hulk. You can keep his Bruce Banner punyness. lol
You call Bruce Banner puny? That make me angry!
LOL
Depends on the situation. Bruce Banner is a much better Communications Czar. The Hulk makes you feel safer walking through MetLife.
If La’el really is innocent, and has nothing to do with the murder whatsoever, it’s just a colossal clusterfuck for him. If he does go undrafted, and then he’s picked up by a team as an UDFA, and he’s cleared, some team is going to get one hungry, angry mofo of an OL, that’s for sure.
It would be real interesting if no one drafted him and then after the draft he got the all clear. He might end up getting more money than he would have in the first round. But my guess is some team would take a flyer on him. Even If cleared he’d probably end up with a third day contract.
True. No state tax in Florida. LOL
10 hours to the draft
Pants Off!!!
Do the fucking idiot students in NJ realize that protesting and blocking traffic effects innocent people who have nothing to do with shooting unarmed black men? Of course not they’re too fucking stupid. I would love to see a drone spray them with pink paint that smells like shit.
I don’t get why La’el wouldn’t be drafted unless some no more.
“”We’re looking to get in touch with Mr. Collins to question him about the (shooting). Again we’re not pursuing him as a suspect, but we know he had some type of relationship with Mills. As part of the investigation, we would like to sit down with him, and ask him who may be responsible for this.”
That not his agent or lawyer, the Baton Rouge Police. And if he is the father of the child……not like that hasn’t happened before.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000488760/article/lael-collins-leaving-draft-to-meet-with-la-authorities
In there is “Collins is not a suspect” and “had not contacted Mills since September.” Must be something else.
In a strange sequence of Events only believable in the frozen , sunshine deprived brain of a Central Canadian, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell announces due to inconveniences and possible libel to the Patriots Deflateagate investigation, the NFL Awards a Compensatory pick # 33 in tomorrow’s draft to the New England Patriots.. As the first round commences tonight it is discovered that La’El Collins is innocent of any involvement of his wife’s murder as Aaaron Hernandez steps forward to admit he did it.. With the 33rd pick of the 2015 draft the NE Patriots select La’El Collins … Aaron Hernandez is transferred to Solitary Confinement at the request of NFL/Robert Kraft
but his wifi is really slow
LMAO Toba. And they don’t even need him at #33. The evil genius could all be behind this so he is there at #32.
I made it 33 so there would be time for him to be cleared 🙂 and no one else could interject..
LOL — you think the evil genius couldn’t make that happen in ten minutes. Give him some credit.
No Shit!
That seems to be our luck! 😦
Who is having a big pay today? The ex-Baton Rouge cop who became an investigator or “security specialist” and is known to have the best inside connections to his old department.
Linebacker Spencer Paysinger will wear #42.
So, will that Clay jersey be recycled or will it go in the trash now that Paysinger is wearing his number? LOL
That will be just during TC, he’ll have to change it to a 50s or 90s # in the RS.
We really need to kill the Pats bogeyman that has infected our fan base.
I think they’re being sarcastic Tim. But fwiw, Belichick HAS shown he’ll go to great lengths for cheating..so…he’s earned the sarcasm. 🙂
Of course it’s sarcasm, but we always think they’ll pickup our players and turn them into pro bowlers or that the league will give them gifts. We need to knock them down to a point where that stuff doesn’t matter anymore. Capiche! LOL
I capiche. See my post below for the answer to doing that. 😉
My final Mock draft of the season
YOUR TEAM
MIAMI DOLPHINS
YOUR PICKS
1: R1P14 DE RANDY GREGORY NEBRASKA
2: R2P15 WR NELSON AGHOLOR USC
3: R4P15 OT TYRUS THOMPSON OKLAHOMA
4: R5P13 RB TYLER FUCKING VARGA YALE
5: R5P14 CB KEVIN WHITE TCU
6: R6P15 S JORDAN RICHARDS STANFORD
Be careful on Gregory as yesterday, I think Rappaport, said he was dropping really bad & it’s not really due to the failed drug test, but rather something mentally. 1st thing that popped in my head was Demetrius Underwood.
Really? Maybe he does more than smoke weed and takes meth or something.
The post Lael / Jordan Draft! 😦
14: R1P14 RB TODD GURLEY GEORGIA
47: R2P15 S DAMARIOUS RANDALL ARIZONA STATE
114: R4P15 CB D’JOUN SMITH FLORIDA ATLANTIC
149: R5P13 G MITCH MORSE MISSOURI
150: R5P14 ILB MIKE HULL PENN STATE
191: R6P15 WR DARREN WALLER GEORGIA TECH
This got lost on the other page, but it’s one of the more informative posts I’ve made in a couple of weeks, so I’m going to go ahead and repost it.
I don’t know if the hand mashing over Gurley’s injury is because people aren’t reading what’s out there on him, or because they don’t realize his injury and it’s repair was simpler and cleaner than APs and he’s several years younger than AP was at the time with far less mileage on his legs.
There’s always a risk taking a guy coming off of surgery, but if you could go back and get AP (without the off-field baggage) the season after his ACL, you’d draft him 1st overall. Ladanian Tomlinson and other football people call him the best prospect SINCE AP, and I think that’s the kind of player that puts us over the top to become a contender. Our offense will be geared for the long haul and tooled to hurt teams in several ways. Our defense will be geared toward owning the LOS and destroying QBs.
Sounds pretty good. In the spirit of “swing for the fences” that GDP has espoused all offseason, I say if Gurley’s still on the board ( I think there’s a 50% chance or more he’s gone tbh) take him and get ready to see a Fins team that doesn’t fold in December (and beyond) but rather, one that comes into it’s own.
This article is chock full of factual information on a guy who could become the next Miami Dolphin, so I suggest those who haven’t been following Gurley much since he’s hurt and they took him off their boards…use it to learn about him. I had some revelations myself. Leg extensions and Single legged squats? Same weight (heavy!) on both legs!
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/04/29/nfl-draft-todd-gurley-recovery-acl/
Instagram video of him sprinting on a treadmill…can you tell which leg is injured (if you didn’t already know..)? I sure can’t!
The video is bad ass. He’s cutting now too btw…
AP was also already a proven NFL player, not a rookie entering the league off of knee surgery. Someone will draft him but I’m not sure I want him to be our pick.
Older doesn’t make you better at recovering from injuries, it makes you slower at it. More mileage doesn’t make you faster at recovering, it makes you slower. You ignore the factual information that his surgery and injury was far simpler and cleaner too.
I’m convinced you won’t read that article because you closed your mind, but you made a post yesterday that reminds me that we all pass judgments every year on players and are frequently wrong.
Jahn, let’s not turn this into something it’s not. I’m not a fan of drafting RBs early especially with our offense and a guy coming off of surgery. That’s not close minded, it’s how I feel. I’d rather add another position in the 1st.
That said if we do draft Gurley you know I’ll root for him.
Anyway, I’m out. Tim’s gonna be doubting Thomas until we draft him, and then he’ll fall in line. 😛
I also wish Gurley the best in his recovery. Seems like a good kid.
I’m leaning towards Todd Gurley at 14
what a little’s knee injury in college when the alternatives are murder suspects and stoners
9 hours until the draft
(Piggy nervously farts)
…sorry
I am across the country and can smell it…lol j/k.
Here’s hoping for a great draft!! Later peeps….
My farts are well traveled
That might just be the bacon cooking at the local cafe. LOL
Dante fowler @dantefowler 12h12 hours ago
Crazy to know the next time I lay my head and wake up my dream that I dreamed about all my life is going to come true 😓 God is good man
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Pretty profound statement by a very cool dude. I honestly would love to have him on our team despite not having a strong need at DE. More kids should think about this and maybe they would keep their noses clean and push themselves to be great. Very well deserved for this kid.
I’d be surprised if he falls past 5 and if he does he’ll be a Jet. Ugh!
“Police told the Baton Rouge Advocate newspaper that investigators believe, from a preliminary investigation, that Mills opened her door to someone who wanted to use her car and was shot multiple times after she refused.”
How do they know someone wanted to use her car and she refused?
I guess forensics…..
(Piggy shrugs)
It seems odd to me they would know what type of dialogue happened but not know who the shooter is.
I guess they can analyze the distance from the shooter
where she was, whether she was moved
the position of the car door
and then kind of put together a story from there
Oh opened her car door, I was thinking her house or apt. door.
Yeah
I guess we don;t know if she was carjacked by some stranger or something else more dubious
But I doubt they insist on talking to Collins in person if it was a random carjacking
I’m guessing they think she was killed by some one she knows
The Great Blue North Draft Report has us taking Gurley at #14 and Shaq Thompson at #47.
Matt miller had this
1Kevin Johnson, CBRound 1, 14th pick
2Shaq Thompson, LBRound 2, 15th pick
3Justin Hardy, WRRound 4, 15th pick
4Ben Koyack, TERound 5, 13th pick
5Cameron Artis-Payne, RB
Kevin Johnson
(Piggy throws a microwave out the window)
Kevin fucking Johnson!
That would be pretty damn good
BUT WHERE IS MY SAMURAI!!!
A lot of sites have us taking Gurley. I admit, even though it’s not what I would do that I would be very excited if we take him.
he will be fun to watch
Maybe even worth buying a new jersey
I hear you can use a new white jersey….
😦
I guess a safe jersey is Suh. I’m still buying something more logo oriented.
I would be happy if we were committed to pounding the rock more.
Piggy, Collins apparently has an alibi.
I hope its not that he was standing outside his girlfriend’s car…
LOL, no his agent said he was nowhere near where it took place and has witnesses who are willing to verify that.
I don;t see how that i an alibi
He easily could have paid some one to kill his GF
Well that’s different.
Rae Carruth
He has an alibi for him being in the area when the murder happened, that doesnt preclude him from involvement. They are trying to root out his involvement right now, there is no way they pull him back for this if they felt confident he had nothing to do with it. They could have done questioning remotely if they wanted to, they could have had him give up a paternity test remotely, nothing but having him near them while they came to a conclusion says anything but some degree of concern he was involved.
Matt miller had this
1Kevin Johnson, CBRound 1, 14th pick
2Shaq Thompson, LBRound 2, 15th pick
3Justin Hardy, WRRound 4, 15th pick
4Ben Koyack, TERound 5, 13th pick
5Cameron Artis-Payne, RB
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Im not a fan of a Cb in round one, but id be just as happy with Johnson as Waynes.
Im not a fan of Shaq Thompson, but if our intention is to use him in a S/LB hybrid role, similar to what Tim has suggested in the past, id be ok with it.
Hardy i love as a player so pretty happy with that pick.
Koyack i dont love but he is a solid TE prospect, but would be like 3 of the same type guys in Lynch, Sims and Koyack,
Artis-Payne at that round is a good pick.
Overall i could live with this draft but i really dont see from any of the invites, or meetings at different events that the Phins have ever shown particular interest in any of these guys other than Johnson.
Yeah Thompson as a nickel specialist and STs guy as a 2nd rd pick would be okay, not as a 1st rd pick. Maybe in time he could become a starting WOLB.
Absolutely hate the Shaq Thompson pick, but I’m ok with it outside of that. Love that he had us taking Antonio Brown, um oops, I mean Hardy.
I think he has an airtight alibi, but there is always the possibility he had something to do with the murder, paid someone to do it.
BTW — it very could well be that La’el had a child and rushed back because of that. His former girlfriend died but the child was born alive. That is a reason to drop everything. Even if the NFL pundits look at it only from a draft perspective, which means the criminal part. And he could have just said to the cops, “yeah I’m coming back….will talk to you when I get there.”
No, it would have been reported as such, that would have been posted everywhere because his lawyers would have made sureof that. This is something deeper.
Yeah
No question to police are asking to speak/question with him
Good point on how his lawyer and agent would have spun it. But just saying there is another possibility here…….and that also includes talking to the cops and hoping to get it resolved before 8PM tonight.
I think its pretty clear that he is going back to speak with the police
And he probably does not want to be int he green room for the Brady Quinn closeups while he drops like an anvil
The report said he left to go meet with the police.
How many times have reports been wrong? And as it is he could have been doing both.
Imagine if your child was born to a dead mother.
Dbolt, what don’t you like about Shaq Thompson as a 2nd rd pick?
WBRZ News
@WBRZ
#BREAKING – BRPD says they’ll talk to La’el Collins for murder investigation after #NFLDraft. http://www.wbrz.com/news/brpd-to-meet-with-la-el-collins-after-draft …
He’s going to drop like a stone. May not even get drafted, according to Schefter .
I’m not a fan of Shaq Thompson either. He may never have a true position. He can’t really add weight because he’s not that fast to begin with. He’s probably too small to play LB, and no one has any idea how he’ll be at S. I wouldn’t touch him.
I like him int he 2nd round
I think he will be an excellent LB in coverage
As a 1st round pick neither am I but as a 2nd I do like him because I think he’ll find a role in nickel situations and could be a STs demon. The guy has really good instincts, really long arms 33″ and runs a 4.65. I think he’ll be a good matchup player in today’s passing league. He also has running skills with the ball in his hands. I don’t think his multiple skills should be looked at as a negative, but I get it as a 1st rounder.
He’s also an emergency player for a lot of positions. Jack of all master of none probably. Maybe he could be refined enough to master one, but i dunno. 2nd round im sorta kinda ok with but i have never liked the idea of drafting him in the first, even back when he was routinely mocked to us there.
Stanger, Collins better meet with police and try to come away with some clearance or his draft status will take a big hit.
Also the infant might not even be his.
I dont think there is a chance in hell that he is completely cleared by tonight, not enough to satisfy fears im sure a lot of teams have now. I dont see him going in the first and if things arent at least a little more clear by draft time, he may fall a lot further.
He’s trying. Maybe it works maybe he it doesn’t. Maybe he ordered a hit. But most innocent men would do what he is doing, but then some a smart guilty one would as well. We’ll see.
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 23s24 seconds ago
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If Collins drops like a stone would you use one of our 5ths knowing it could be a waste if he’s guilty but also a huge reward if he’s innocent?
Yes
I may even use a 2nd
but definately a 4th or later
I would
Fuck that. I’m not a big fan of his to begin with.
No need for cursing, a simple no would have been fuckin fine. LOL
He was just seasoning the sentence….sheesh.
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It would be tempting but im with DBolt, i have never been a big fan of him and im a SEC guy. I just dont want the risk of looking like an ass drafting a guy who may wind up our of football for murder. I know Pats feel different and feel ehonerated by the “well we didnt know” statement, but i wouldnt feel that way and it would really make me lose respect for our guys doing a good enough job in their scouting/investigating. I wouldnt feel right about it even if it would be a really good value pick.
I don’t get the hysteria?
Cpl. Don Coppola with BRPD said they’re not treating Collins as a suspect in the death of 29-year-old Brittney Mills this past Friday, but that they do think he might have information about the victim detectives need.
Information could be gathered in lots of formats, if they want to be fact to face with him, they want to watch his body language when they ask questions….they can take a certified statement, they can do a phone interview, they have lots of other modes to “gather” information.
I get it……something that gets clicks on draft day. Still may push him into the 2nd or 3rd round though.
There is no way I would waste a draft pick on anyone – no matter how talented – if there is even a hint of something like murder or any drug issues.
BATON ROUGE, LA (WAFB) –
The Baton Rouge Police Department said it will not interview former LSU offensive lineman La’el Collins about the murder of a pregnant woman until after the NFL draft.
Cpl. Don Coppola with BRPD said an interview with Collins has not been scheduled.
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Now where do you draft him?
See above, come on lawyer men….you know this…..
But us bottom feeders look at the ultimate legal side. How it affects NFL GMs…….different story.
You don;t
I would. Nothing concrete at all other than they want to talk with him and they say he is not a suspect.
Gurley followed by Shaq would be awesome, two guys well suited to play with Suh.
“Well Suhted”
Correct, please forgive my ignorance
I always saw Collins as a later first rounder its only with this wacko group that you see him at 14.
You’ll have to wacko Mike E about that one. 🙂
Is that him last Sunday?
That’s actually the other pitcher on his team…..the one who loses games when he ain’t on the hill. 🙂
I just realized New Orleans Jazz Fest is going on right now
Anyone ever been to that
Food and Music!!!!
Mmmmmmm
A friend of ours has gone a couple of times, says its awesome
I went once
It was awesome
I’m gonna do it again one day
New Orleans is pretty cool
My brother-in-law told me it’s awesome.
Add sex and your George Costanza.
Wait- that was tv…
D says:
April 30, 2015 at 12:48 pm
It would be tempting but im with DBolt, i have never been a big fan of him and im a SEC guy. I just dont want the risk of looking like an ass drafting a guy who may wind up our of football for murder. I know Pats feel different and feel ehonerated by the “well we didnt know” statement, but i wouldnt feel that way and it would really make me lose respect for our guys doing a good enough job in their scouting/investigating. I wouldnt feel right about it even if it would be a really good value pick.
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For as athletic as he tested at the combine, to me, he never really looked that athletic during games and was on the ground a lot whether by his own doing or a defenders. Just not a fan of the player & with the stuff going on now… I would pass myself.
Stanger i wasnt insulting lawyers lol, i have a lot of respect and find the whole legal system both from a defense perspective and/or prosecution and a really interesting mental battle. If i felt i could have handled living with myself if i ever felt forced to bend my ethics, i probably would have pursued that as a career. I spend a lot of time looking at cases, looking at how and why they ask questions, the setup ,etc and im just saying i dont think they brought Collins back without some suspicion of guilt or involvement.
This is a legal nightmare without them feeling at least somewhat confidant they should chance ruining this guys professional life, when they had other alternatives to gathering the info from him they needed. They needed to see him in person, they for some reason needed to ask him questions where they could watch him answer them. They ARENT sure he isn’t involved, they just dont enough to make that statement yet. They are positioning themselves in a place where they cant still investigate but if it turns out they dont have enough to convict they also wont be on the hook for making that statement and forcing teams to pass on him all together. I cant see anything that makes me think he isnt still a suspect, that statement above by the BRPD is posturing.
Also notice how quiet his camp is being regarding this. No one is really making a peep. If i knew my client was innocent i would have filed for a gag order to prevent anything being made public, i would have taken multiple steps to ensure the least amount of impact was done to my client and his draft status. Why arent they fighting it in the least? Why havent they said something to the effect that my client also feels he should be near his family at this time, or somethingt hat softens the blow of him leaving this grand moment for him to return?
D — first off, to be a lawyer ethics are no problem……even if morals are at time. But I completely agree with you, the signs are not good. And I wasn’t saying he was innocent, just putting out a scenario where he might be and was rushing things to try and clear up before tonight.
What I can’t figure out is the 180. Dropping everything to go to Baton Rouge and now going to be at the draft. But them and his people know a lot more about going on than we do. The confusion is some extra smoke though.l
Who cares about Collins. I don’t want him even without the current police investigation he’s involved in. There are way too many good players out there. I’d rather take Jake Fisher than Collins if we going OL route.
Jake Fisher is probably the better selection or Flowers, for us i mean.
I just realized New Orleans Jazz Fest is going on right now
Anyone ever been to that
Food and Music!!!!
Mmmmmmm
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Jazz fest is pretty much year round there, always some sort of jazz event going on and food is always good there. The fest just brings in tons of people so you have to wade through rivers of humans, most of which would like to bbq you…so im not sure its a great time for you.
D,
Agree. Fisher is easily the most athletic OL out there.
IT’S DRAFT DAY MOTHER FUCKERS!
LOL
New orleans is a great place to visit, it does kind of lose its flair though when you can go anytime you want, but you actually appreciate it more. So many off beaten path things to do that are very awesome. You really need to take a week during an offseason and just go there and city crawl it. You will like it even more.
THIS WILL BE THE REACTION OF ANY POOR SOUL DRAFTED BY THE BROWNS
LOL i actually thought about that when i posted the quote by Dante Fowler about waking up to the dream he has had all his life…. i was like yea but if you wake up to having been drafted by Cleveland you went from dream to nightmare lol
piggy,
I’ve been to the jazz fest in NO a couple of times. Its pretty awesome. Good food and music. And you can walk around with a drink in your hand and no one cares. Bar hopping.
Its illegal to not have a drink in your hand lol.
nothing like eating listen to music with a drink in my trotters!
Piggy
What I don’t understand is how you would use a 2nd RD pick on Collins. If you think he’s a risk for being guilty, you don’t take him at all, or maybe a late RD pick. I don’t know, that’s what I think
2nd is probably too high
a day 3 pick though makes sense
Maybe we have been trying to draft the wrong Varga?
viktoria-varga
Pencil her in at pick 14….new favorite for our 1st round pick.
I would love to pencil her in!
She likes Italian sausage.
D says:
April 30, 2015 at 1:11 pm
I just realized New Orleans Jazz Fest is going on right now
Anyone ever been to that
yep, and a fantastic time even if it was with the ex back in the day. but then again it is New Orleans, how can one not have fun in N.O. booze, boobs and eats. and yeah if you do it right you do it in that order
a little over 6 hours until the draft
um…do you guys smell anything….
Viktoria’s muffin?
Is that her secret?
Blueberry Muffins?
Sonny
Due to the unfortunate circumstances, we’ll never find out where La’el would have been drafted, but I would have guaranteed he would have been a top 15 pick for sure. It will be interseting to see where he goes, if at all. I magine he stills go first RD? I think it’s possible. You never know what kind of info someone might have, or even worse, what kind of info was put out there intentionally to scare all the other teams away. I never discount stuff like that happening.
it is weird seeing D and dbolt in the same post/reply. with one you just get the D with the other a little d but at least a screw
Points of her own, sitting way up high
Way up firm and high
re: Viktoria Varga
Not a “black-haired beauty, with big dark eyes”, however.
No, but the wood got heavy…
I would not discard her, however 🙂
She is a very pretty girl.
Grrrrrrrrrr!
Wow a growl type noise?
Tim Knight says:
April 30, 2015 at 11:37 am
I would be happy if we were committed to pounding the rock more.
WTH? What did I ever do to you? Why do you want to pound on me for?
He likes your ass.
Decorators are absolutely insane. This moron is painting, and I’m not lying, every single thing in the house the exact same color. Kitchen and bath cabinets, ceilings, walls, trim all soji white. The ceilings are eggshell, the walls are satin, the trim is semi-gloss and the cabinets are satin too (who the hell puts satin on cabinets). The paint goes on the trim and she comes in gets all orgasmic over it (we’re thinking how fucking ridiculous it looks).
Only a decorator calls a room – “the space”.
Her: “Oh the space looks so much better…yada yada..”
Me: You mean the room?
And soji white isn’t white like in the fins uniform, its off white like a light beige.
no tey are actually right…with it all white it is kinda a big space and not a room lol
Son’s new home hanging clothes.
Seriously, why did you allow the decorator to do things her own way?
LOL, I’m working with a friend who’s a contractor, this is her own house she’s abusing. All the cool custom shit I did is soji f’n white, lol
Tim Knight says:
April 30, 2015 at 2:39 pm
Wow a growl type noise?
Yes, you cannot “hear” me rolling my R’s in the post but I am certainly rolling them!
ROCKPHIN FUCKING VARGA!
Viktoria that is! LOL
One pretty girl picture has totally derailed the draft talk…..and you call yourself fans!
I AM A HUGE FAN!…………………of pretty women. 😉
Come on D. Varga AND a pretty woman in the same post!? How am I not supposed to react to that? LOL
Last mock from Walter at walterfootball.com
Toddy Gurley RB, UGA (Parker and Waynes off the board)
Benarddrick McKinney LB, Miss State
Stefon Diggs WR, Maryland.
Rakeen Nunez-Roches DT Southern Miss
Reese Dismukes OC/OG Auburn
Trey Walker CB Texas Southern.
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I’ll take it! I am a fan of McKinney at ILB. HE should switch up Rakeen for Tyler FUCKING Varga though. LOL (I know he took Gurley in the first)
Okay back to football.
ShaaWing !!!!!
That reminded me of this.
Wayne: I’m sorry, I know it’s your Mom, but I’m afraid she’s a babe!
Damn, if I don’t get some soon, I may need to pay for it more directly than I ever have. (We all pay for it one way or another. I am currently paying for what i received over the last 10 years with half of my worldly goods!)
actually more than half, but who is counting other than her??
Hit the internet my friend. And don’t look for your next wife, just the something.
FINS LOOKING TO MOVE UP IS BEING REPORTEDDDDDD
Go get special!!!
Cuz movin-up worked so well last time?
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 14: Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin (A)
Round 2 Pick 20 (PHI): Landon Collins, SS, Alabama (A+)
Round 3 Pick 12 (MINN): D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida (A+)
Round 4 Pick 15: Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina (A)
Round 5 Pick 14: Jake Ryan, OLB/ILB, Michigan (B+)
Round 6 Pick 15: Kaleb Eulls, DT/DE, Mississippi State (C-)
Wyo, how great has standing pat or adding more draft picks worked out over the last decade? We’ve made the playoff a whopping once the last 13 years.
Every draft and prospect is different? So now every trade up is the next Dion Jordan? LOL
I understand the fear. Trading up just kinda makes the pick count. If you arent confidant in our guys to do that then of course its going to be a scary proposition. Bold moves are always risky, if there werent they would be THE way.
I’m not afraid. 🙂
No!
But I knew that would get a bigger rise out of you than Viktoria!
🙂
We’re moving up to #5 to take La’el and his lawyers! lol
No but the Pats might, if they can get La’el off maybe they can get Hernandez back through appeal.
Do they block better than Ginns mother?
Sonny
I bet she dyed her pubes soji white. lol
Her husband won’t like, too much space.
Now this one is interesting, and given the situation sorta makes sense.
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Jay Glazer @JayGlazer
Scoopage: Agent for LSU’s La’el Collins trying to pull him from this draft allowing him time to clear his name then enter Supplemental Draft
Bill Polian just said on live TV that he didn’t believe there was anything in the rules that would allow him to do that. He went on to say if it did happen, he’s pretty sure it’d be the first time in his entire career (very long) that it would have happened.
He might be right. But if I was La’el’s agent I sure would be shooting for it. Even if it can’t be done, presents the thought he thinks it will all be cleared up.
Could be extremely smart. Good, outside-the-box thinking.
Tim,
that wasn’t a referendum on your open mindedness, it was just me interpreting your responses as having already made up your mind about Gurley. I think his talent transcends those kind of generalizations like “I don’t believe in taking RB early”. I say this because I generally adhere to that school of thought as well. Remember a couple years ago when I said I wouldn’t take DeCastro (I think that’s who it was) early and you convinced me to take another look because his talent merited it?
That’s what I’m pitching you now. 😉
I want you to read that article so when we select him you don’t have to go back and restudy to convince yourself it was a good idea. I heard on NFL Sirius yet again today that NFL Drs. expect him to be 100% for training camp btw.
I don’t need to do all that. If we draft Gurley I hope we commit to the running game more and utilizing him and Miller. I’m just not sure we will. That’s kind of what bugs me. You know I’m a fan of establishing the run and running it more, just not confident we will.
I don’t remember the DeCastro thing at all. Not saying it didn’t happen though.
I’m done practically begging you to read an article so that we can discuss it. Reminds me of when I tried to talk about Marriota vs. Winston with you. It’s all on your terms. LOL…
D,
I would love that draft.
Pro Football Focus @PFF now19 seconds ago
Ohio State’s Devin Smith lead this draft class with 754 yards on passes thrown 20 yards or more in the air. 180 yards more than 2nd place
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 2m2 minutes ago
Plain language of CBA seems to slam door on La’el Collins delaying his draft eligibility until July http://wp.me/p14QSB-9Lgn
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You owe me a beer. Same time stamp, but my post is first in the order. 😛
Beer lol.
I don’r think a response to my first post is beer worthy…….but you might be eligible for the supplemental beer draft. 🙂
And the draft day rumors are in full swing.
Teams making shit up to create pressure selling tactics.
D
That was a sweet draft. Exciting stuff
Except it’s totally unrealistic. LOL
Why, because it’s good? 😉
CaliGigi says:
April 30, 2015 at 3:13 pm
FINS LOOKING TO MOVE UP IS BEING REPORTEDDDDDD
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That has been “being reported” for weeks….along with FIns looking to move back… Fins looking to ….. and every combination LOL