By New Age
We all know what happened in the AFC Championship game. Every single ball they had used (11 of them) was under the specified PSI…every single ball. Now some Pats fans will try to redirect and discuss the Colts balls or even try to use pseudo-science like the Ideal Gas Law. These puny attempts only reinforce the ideas that all homers are blind and that scientists can be easily bought. Even if the science would work out, it was the responsibility of the Patriots to provide legal balls to the game. Like these:
No Tom! These!
Tommy Boy did not cooperate with the investigation and some pretty damning texts insinuated that he knew the balls were soft. It would be very hard to believe a guy ,whose only job since college was throwing a pigskin, wouldn’t know anything about how they feel. Especially since he successfully lobbied to have his own people check his game balls every week. Brady said. “Our equipment guys do a great job with breaking the balls in. They have a process that they go through. When I pick those balls out, at that point to me they are perfect.” His own words on what his expectations were every week.
Now to see why this is a big deal.
http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/2015/the-new-england-patriots-mysteriously-became-fumble-proof-in-2007
TLDR version- Patriots went from a middle of the road team in fumbles every year to being almost perfect for 8 straight years. They went from middle of the pack in TO differential to a top 5 team four of the past five years. Turnovers win games. Here’s a video from NFL.com to further showcase this:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000305997/Blount-35-yard-TD-run
This is an amazing play. What is even more amazing is that it is pouring rain during this game. Blount who averaged 1 fumble per 49 carries elsewhere carries the ball with very little security in this video. Somehow, he is able to also extend that ball for the TD and hold on in the pouring rain until his falling weight helps knock it out. Is this possible with a properly deflated ball in the hands of a serial fumbler? Sure. Likely? Not at all.
What other benefits does a deflated ball give? It’s is easier to handle in bad weather, and easier to catch. So these benefits can be enormous for a bad weather team like the Patriots. Are these advantages the only reason the Patriots are a good team? No. But in a league of top athletes and parity, every incremental advantage can be the difference. The Patriots used deflated balls against the Ravens and barely won a close game. Would they have won without these advantages? I don’t know and that is the problem.
Does it matter in the long run if he cheats? As a Dolphins fan who watched this:
I know how refs can influence any game, especially a game full of Pittsburgh refs.
Anyone that watches the NBA knows about the damaging proof that a cheating ref influenced the outcome of games. It damaged the game no matter how much they still bring in. As mentioned several times lately, the refs still influence the outcomes of NBA games. It is not healthy for that sport.
Tom Brady and Bill Belichick have damaged the game with their incessant cheating and the success that has followed. The NFL was wrong in just slapping his wrist for hurting the integrity of the game twice! Don Shula proved that you don’t have to cheat to win. Unfortunately, Roger Kraftell has encouraged the Patriots to cheat their way to the playoffs for years. Eventually, any team can win at that point and they aren’t just any team.
In other news, the Patriots just picked up a FA QB to compete with Jimmy G. His name is:
Finsmob Unleashed 
LMAO @ Jon Grady! Nice job New Age!
New Age, good read man. I had heard about the Patriots fumble rate being less, even significantly less but WOW, just wow. SMH How could it NOT be more than anecdotal?
Nice write
FINALLY! Someone on NFLN responded to Brian Baldinger’s comment that Jimmy Garoppolo will be the best QB in the AFCE this year. I don’t know the guy’s name but right after a Baldinger segment he said, “Baldinger said that Garoppolo will be the best QB in the division, I don’t know Miami has a pretty damn good QB down there in Tannehill”
What a stupid thing for Baldinger to say
Tanny is almost certaint o be better than Garoppolo
I bet even Geno Smith (who has flashes) will be better than Garoppolo
The fact is Garoppolo is inexperienced and I expect it to show
Tim
Places to stay for a game in S. Fl
Check out the hard rock hotel and casino in Hollywood
They are about two exits north of the stadium
Right off of the turnpike ( not to far from beaches etc)
Large compound type place, full of restaurants, clubs
really nice pool area, they even have a comedy club out there
Just trying to help
Miami Herald Sports @HeraldSports · 7h7 hours ago
Miami Dolphins’ Finsweekend fishing tournament back for more fun, charity
http://hrld.us/1HigV8V
Good stuff New Age
Great piece
I am going to circulate it on twitter in a minute
I’m a little tired of people downplaying that this was cheating
it was
I think its probably comprable to too much pine tar on the bat or a pitcher in baseball rubbing vasoline on the ball
but its not a severe as steroids
that doesn’t mean it wasn’t cheating
I would think we that fans would get to the severity of it, if cheats fans weren’t so busy claiming its a conspiracy
I end to think the cheats have brought this scandal on themselves in the manner they have handled it
stepping away from it though – I don’t think the PSI is any different than too much pine tar on the bat like I mentioned above
I actually think that what the cheats did in the Baltimore game declaring ineligible is a bigger advantage than the low PSIs – but that was legal until this offseason, when the cherats forced the owners to change the rules so that what they did in that game doesn’t happen again
Now the owners are probably have to look at testing PSIs balls during the game and taking action during the game going forward
Isn’t weird how the cheats always find themselves in these contraversies?
I don;t think its a coincidence
Great job New Age!
The fumble situation largely gets overlooked by the Brady and Patriots apologists all over the radio, especially NFL Radio, where they should be bringing it up every time they discuss this crap. Stop protecting Brady, and the Patriots, who despite being a great team with a great QB, cheat anyway.
In case you didn’t see this kiss cam fail that happened yesterday
Just watched that on my phone. LMAO! That’s funny
LMAO.
Good ole Bobby McCain might be a sleeper
http://espn.go.com/blog/miami-dolphins/post/_/id/14973/is-bobby-mccain-a-sleeper
^
Performing “Good Ole’ Bobby McCain”
nice job new age.
Nice article NA.
In regards to the Pats Id prefer that drunken idiot Bob Kraft just try and finger a starving crocodile rather than try to convince me of the Pat’s integrity…especially after canning the deflator. This scumbag was the guy banging a 20 something year old chic while his wife was dying and then played up his wife’s death to the public to look like a sympathetic figure oppose to the bumbling incoherent butt Fuck that he is.
LMAO!!!!
The Pats got caught and now they act like children when they get caught doing something they shouldn’t. Take your medicine and STFU!!!!
Maybe all teams should start cheating because it doesn’t matter. The sport will be real good then wouldn’t it? SMH
In reply to New Age’s article. Good job!
Michael Irvin was on the Dan LeBatard show yesterday and I heard him trying to downplay Brady’s deflation tactics as nothing more than just what competitive people do (equating it to people doing pass interference or holding and getting away with it in games). Thinks the punishment is more like a misdemeanor instead of a felony in the legal analogy. Anyway, LeBatard was like “cmon Irvin, what if you found out Steve Young was deflating footballs when you guys lost to him” LOL.
With all the new toys everyone seems to forget Who should Take the NFL by storm in his second year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree. He gets down played because he’s not big and real fast but that guy’s competitive spirit is as high as anyone’s and he works at his craft. I expect him to take his game to another level and do more overall in his game. Not just a short route slot guy. 😉
Great Write New Age!!!
Appreciate the article!
LMAO
Matty I @TheMattyI · 3h3 hours ago
Per NFLPA records, looks like the Dolphins currently have $8.067 million in cap space, with another $3M clearing on June 1.
That’s what happens when you turnover the WR room from over $100M in total contracts to $16Mish.
We can use that to get a vet OG
If there is one who’s a guaranteed upgrade. I think we’re going to battle with who we have believing the 2nd year in the system and another year experience for some guys will make a difference. I always felt last year would be a difficult situation on the OL with all the turnover in one year – new offense, new blocking scheme and basically all new personnel.
I’m not heading into this year thinking it will be the same this year. That’s the reason I wasn’t sold on us being a playoff team last year, I had us 8-8 to 10-6 – if some things broke right and they didn’t. We lacked enough big plays on both sides of the ball and both lines struggled especially down the stretch. We’ve made quite a few changes. I don’t expect that to happen again. I feel better about this team at this time than I did last year’s team.
A quick drive by from court to say awesome job New Age
Dbolt:
Just to clear the record. Kraft wasn’t banging a 20 something. She was 30
Yeah and I’m sure she was totally attracted to him. LOL
How do we know she just doesn’t have a thing for wrinkles….I mean Kraft does resemble a wrinkled nutt sack
LOL @ Dbolt, reminds of Big Daddy: “Hey! You just made the biggest mistake of your life, baby. I know you’re gunna be missing me when you have that big, white, wrinkly body on you with his loose skin and old balls… gross! Ugh!”
LMAO
Excellent piece New Age!!!!
People need to stop saying Tom Brady does not need to deflate the balls as a defense to what he did
#1 is irrelevant – its still cheating
#2 The fact that Brady is so good makes the advantage that much greater to him.
Take a bat smother it with pine tar (which if you don’t know is illegal) give it to me and I still strike out – bc I suck. Give the same bat to Miguel Cabrera and he doubles his home runs.
No matter how slight the PSI levels seems to us, a QB, especially a QB like Tom Brady, is able to exploit it
Don’t argue that Tom Brady is so great he doesn’t need to deflate footballs
Tell me that Tom Brady is not more likely to take advantage of balls below the threshold b/c he is so great – b/c that is the reality.
The better a player is, the more advantage altering the equipment is to that player.
The same with steroids. What it did for Barry Bonds was a jump from hitting HRs in the 40s to 73. For you and I we still can’t hit major league pitching.
Tim
Regarding your 10:48AM comment, what makes you more confident about the O-line this year? I’m actually more nervous this year than last year.
2nd season in the offense and blocking scheme and that the FO appears to be content with who they have. I’m not saying it’s going to be awesome or anything, but continuity at least for some of the guys when it was new to everyone last year is important. People just look at least year when it was a mess and think it will be the same. I don’t agree with that thinking especially because it won’t be the same people starting at the same positions etc.
How is it continuity when you have 2 different guards, Pouncey moving back to C from the G position, and possibly a different opening LT if Albert isn’t ready? I’m not trying to give you a hard time, just dealing with the facts as they are or may be.
Nice work New Age.
Since science is under attack in popular culture I want to make a correction about the Ideal Gas Law (it has many applications in Brewing science believe it or not!) and the Pseudo science that some Pats apologists are trying to turn it into.
Pay attention as I’m proving the apologists wrong right here. 🙂
1) Ideal Gas Law (simplified for application specifically to football inflation) says: At a given temperature the pressure inside of a football will be greater or less than at another temperature.
2) At a lower temperature than baseline the pressure will be lower than the pressure at baseline. At a higher temperature than baseline the pressure will be greater than the pressure at baseline.
3) The Ideal Gas Law applies to all footballs everywhere. It does not know which team the footballs belong too.
4) The ideal Gas Law COULD in the singular case of the Patriots’ balls, account for the volume loss seen.
5) The ideal Gas Law COULD in the singular case of the Colts’ balls, account for the volume of loss seen.
6) The Ideal Gas Law ABSOLUTELY has to apply to the balls of both teams…and given that both balls underwent substantially the same temperature change has to apply EQUALLY to both balls.
Now the doozy.
Cue Bill Belichick citing the Ideal Gas Law and your car tires in a presser trying to explain away the differences in pressure. Cue the apologists parroting this explanation ad nauseum.
Mr. Wells considered this explanation and wisely consulted with engineers and scientists who explain to him the things I explained to you above. Mr. Wells realized that the Patriots’ Balls underwent GREATER pressure loss than the Colts balls while enduring the exact same gameday conditions.
There it is. The apologists want to say “Ideal Gas Law explains it away” But the facts say “Ideal Gas Law PROVES THE BALLS WERE TAMPERED WITH”
Appendix:
Now, in the name of Science, I should point out that the Ideal Gas Law is a law that combined two other physical laws (they call them laws because they’re immutable by the way). The underlying law that governs pressure and temperature is known as Charles’ Law, and Jaques Charles deserves some credit for coming up with the equation that later would reveal the Patriots to be Cheaters (again).
Thank you kind sir. No doubt that in our era you’d have been a Fin fan. 🙂
I haven;t read this yet
Bob Kraft had his attorneys prepare a 500 page document in response to the wells report
What an idiot
It’s all about their legacy at this point. They are known as cheaters across the nation and opposing fans are going to be relentless this season reminding them of it at every road game and on parody shows etc. They want to be exonerated but they won’t be. LOL
I hope they read Kraft’s 500 page dick document and add another 4 games suspension to Brady, and additional $1M fine, and a 2017 1st RD pick taken away.
Is there any question they have the dumbest fans around? They are a billion dollar company owned by a billionaire yet these morons donating money to pay their fines? Lots of needy charities in this country and in Boston or MA — much more deserving for donations.
Imbeciles. Blind imbeciles
I’m sure some jackass named Mickey Kelly emptied his shamrock piggy bank with $32.97 in it and sent it over. LOL
LOL!
LMAO!!
Lmao
thats hilarious. The guy with the job to deflate footballs is called the Deflator because he wants to lose weight. Do the pats think the whole world was born yesterday?
TIM—–Yeah I’m making it a mini-vacation. Will spend the weekend at my in-laws in Jupiter and then drive to the hotel on Monday, get settled in and go to the game that night. Drive back up on Tuesday and fly back that day as well if we can work it out like that.
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Tim—–you can visit the SEAL museum in Jupiter which has the actual escape pod from the ship Alabama which was made into a movie I think it was called Captain Phelps.It was about pirates who took the cargo ship hostage.
I’ve been to Jupiter many times but maybe someday I’ll check that out.
New Age… “Jon Grady”… classic!!!! Then Pats fans go on rampage to “prove” they are not the SAME person. lol
dbolt well said about kraft. Him and Irsay are the 2 biggest scum bags in the NFL.
Thank you! I really despise that sack of ball juice.
Tim
That chick with the hat in the pic you posted is hot
Can you introduce us?
Just so you know she’s broke now. LOL
I don’t know- she has a glassy look in her eye.
That a sparkle Try Pod
Mike E, Pouncey, Albert, James, Thomas, Turner, Fox and Brenner were all there last year learning the offense and Benton’s scheme. It’s not new anymore to them. Last year it was new to everyone. They have a head start this year, more experience for some guys, and some guys looking to take the next step. Very different than last year.
They may have learned the offense, but each one of them is playing a different position. I can buy the familiarity aspect, but there really isn’t much continuity at all, especially if ALbert isn’t ready to play. There would basically be a new starter at every position but RT.
You can develop that through camp if they can keep a lineup healthy for awhile and progress as the season goes on. This isn’t brain surgery. If each guy does his job we should be okay. Let the competition begin. Let’s hope Douglas is the next Harry Galbreath who was an 8th rd pick and made the all rookie team. It happens. 🙂
They call him needle dick.
That’s right Patriots, the wells report doesn’t tell me how long it takes to use the bathroom – it’s worthless!
😉
Do they mention that he locked the door? Unless it’s a one-pisser place, no guy does that.
This has been a entertaining day on Twitter. 1st there’s a movement to get that diseased cunt rag Miko Grimes removed WQAM and then we get this brilliant piece provided by the Patriots.
You Da Man New Age…..Nicely.
And for me the most damning thing are those fumble stats. No it does not prove anything in one given game……..but it proves something was going on over a long period. Yeah maybe one great player might not fumble, but it is statistically impossible for a whole team. I’m sure Kraft’s lawyers will just say it was good coaching.
You know ALL Patriots fans will say that.
As much as they’re trying to blow this off as nonsense you know deep inside they’re all really bothered by it because their team is being looked at as cheaters and not respected as a dynasty by many NFL fans now.
Question for you guys — how much do you think Jim “the needle” McNally could get for a tell interview with TMZ or even NBC?
However much have to think the Pats have matched it in some way. Dude didn’t spill in the interviews with Wells. Seems he tried to cover it as much as he could, “Tom B and I spent all that time talking in private about how to prepare the games fro the Super Bowl”……..right.
I just posted this on PFT’s article about the Dolphins being cleared about Suh. So many Pats fans posted on that, I felt compelled.
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Mike E. says:May 14, 2015 12:57 PM
Patriots = A-Rod
Great team, great player, but both absolutely cheaters. Both have been very successful in their respective sports, but alas, the stink of cheat will always hang on them. Sorry Pats fans, thems is the facts!
Both may have been great without cheating, but we’ll never know. Ain’t that a shame . . .
Andrew Abramson @AbramsonPBP · 10m10 minutes ago
The human Barbie, hot or not? I’m going with scary yet intriguing
Some of her pics are scary and others are less scary, either way she’s friggin obsessed.
Here’s real life Anime.
And here’s real life…..think most could work with that.
If they say they wouldn’t do the other?
They are lying!! 😉
Walker: The first thing that stood out to me at rookie camp was his hunger and sense of urgency. Douglas believes he’s capable of earning a starting job at guard right away despite being a fourth-round pick. That’s the right attitude. On the field, it’s way too early to tell. I saw some good things, such as Douglas holding his ground against big, second-round pick and defensive tackle Jordan Phillips. But Douglas faced rookies last weekend without pads. It’s hard to gauge trench play under those circumstances.
http://espn.go.com/blog/miami-dolphins/post/_/id/14904/dolphins-twitter-mailbag-ryan-tannehill-extension-2
The Patriots are claiming the term “Deflator” was used to reference Jim McNally losing weight, not deflate footballs.
The Patriots have launched a website called WellsReportContext (linked below) that responds to the assertions made in the Wells Report. “The conclusions of the Wells Report are, at best, incomplete, incorrect and lack context,” the introduction says. The site goes on to cite a Nobel Prize winner about PSI levels and makes the insulting claim that football handler McNally called himself the “Deflator” because he was trying to shed pounds. We’ve reached new lows in the absurdity of Deflategate.
Wellsreportcontext.com
I’m on a diet
I need to deflate a few pounds
Sounds normal right?
Let them keep embarrassing themselves. Nobody is buying it but themselves. Let them have their own private orgy over it, it’s only making it worse. LOL
Its really unprofessional for Kraft to do this
He is 1 of 32 owners in the NFL
He should not be challenging the integrity of a product the NFL puts out
I bett he other owners are pissed about it
Good point Piggy…and Tim.
with all the negative news put out it is always nice to read things like this. way to go young man….just way to go.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/high-school-qb-fulfills-seven-year-promise-takes-friend-with-down-syndrome-to-prom/ar-BBjKO0B
Jeez ffr you do surprise me sometimes. Sounds like a guy you want to be the godfather of your child.
Free agent QB Michael Vick is working out with former NFL WR Chris Chambers in hopes of latching on with a team.
Chambers works with both rookies and veterans, training them for NFL opportunities. “Last two weeks, he has done phenomenal. There are several teams that want him,” Chambers said of Vick. “He wanted to be on a winning team. He wants to play three years. Eventually, he wants to start again.” Vick, who turns 35 in June, has attracted no known interest since free agency opened.
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No fight left in that dog. Time to hang it up Ron Mexico. Karma bites you!!!
Why do I bother? Not one damn response. SMH…I’ll get over it, but I try to contribute less blather and more topical information on this board as time goes on, but maybe blather and one liners is all that gets read.
Yep. I’m over it.
I read it and forgot to reply. LOL
Seriously I did. I got distracted with something else. Good post.
Lol..even if that’s a courtesy response Tim, thanks. I appreciate it. I try to be thick skinned, but thin skinned is obviously my natural state. 🙂
Jahn — it was a great post, but some times they hit and sometimes they don’t. A lot of that has to do with traffic at the time and who is already concentrating on something else, most don’t fill in upstream.
But I do believe in the deal ideal gas law (if not to explain this). Every first winter cold snap my wife’s “low tire pressure” alert comes up and it is a 911 moment no matter how hard I try to explain what is going on.
LOL, that happens all the time in the winter to me. I stopped paying attention to it and eyeball it now.
It happens to all of us. I think we do read some things often, take them in, agree, etc, but just get distracted and miss replying. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t read, or was a bad post.
I read it thru, and agree with the Ideal Gas “law’ as a constant that MUST apply to everyone’s balls in the same test area at the same time.
Thanks for sharing.
BTW, my reply up the page earlier was gonna be. Hey Jahn, you should name one version of your craft beers ‘Jacques Charles’ or ‘IGL’ instead of IPA. 🙂
I read it
Its a good post
Don;t beat yourself up over it – its a slow day
basically you are saying that both team;s footballs would have been affected by Ideal Gas Law and since the Colts were not, that is not a sufficient explanation and the Cheats must have manipulated the balls…correct?
lmao, the local station is talking about the bucs adding doug williams to their ring of honor and all they can talk about is dougs highlights with the redskins. there is a reason the bucs are the losers of the the nfl.
they won a superbowl more recently than us.
Not with Doug Williams, he did that with the Skins.
Oh, after my long reply to Jahn I look up after hitting send and see he already has lots to people who indulged him in his whine….Kudos Brady, Oops, err Jahn. 😉
lots of^ people
FYI Jahn
the Cheats latest response claims that the pressure int he 4 footballs of the Colts was affected to
And they are correct
but both reports have the charts and the disparity between the two measurements is pretty large
the colts were much closer to the required PSI than the Cheats balls
for science to explain the release of air pressure it affected one team a lot more than the other….lol
BoulderPhinfan says:
May 14, 2015 at 2:19 pm
they won a superbowl more recently than us.
what the heck does that have to do with them putting doug on their ring of honor
FFR, great article on the Downs Syndrome girl getting to go to the prom on a promise made years ago in the 4th grade. I sent the article to my Mom.
My lil sister was born with Downs. They are such sweet loving & often misunderstood kids. She lived a good life and sadly for us, she is now gone, but never forgotten!
Our lil Angel in heaven.
btw, has anyone seen jahn lately. just curious i dont think he has posted any thing in months
He must be blathering somewhere else these days.
Jahn
I thought it was a great post, one that didn’t necessarily need a response. If you were looking for an atta-boy, my apologies, it was a very good post, and I read the whole thing.
atta-boy Mike…good admin keeping the minions happy. 🙂
just to make stanger feel better about me
http://www.fitstylelife.com/2015/03/50-reasons-why-we-love-yoga-pants-and-leggings/
check out number 3 i mean 4 or 5 wait 6 i mean 7 errrr 9 sorry 13 of fuck it, check out 1-50
LOL ffr — you forgot to mention that #49 was you. 🙂
Hey, no one’s replying to me…WTF!!!! 👿
getterdone says:
May 14, 2015 at 2:24 pm
He must be blathering somewhere else these days.
yeah most likely, jahns problem is he always just post the one liners and never anything of substance
“Mr. Jastremski would sometimes work out and bulk up — he is a slender guy and his goal was to get to 200 pounds. Mr. McNally is a big fellow and had the opposite goal: to lose weight. “Deflate” was a term they used to refer to losing weight. ”
Hey, easy with the damn graphics, you’re slowing down Al Gore’s internet!!! 👿
Anyone hear about the new diet, The Deflater? It’s the easiest diet yet. Suck the fat away in minutes. Choose any PSI you want to be. All you need is this.
Now they call him RaisinNads
1 minute and 40 seconds is all that stands between you and the body you dream of having!!!!
LOL
Everyone is Bawston refers to dieting as deflating. Are you guys wicked stupid or something?…there is nothing retawded about that…fucking Teddie Wells blasphemy
I saw the doctor last week. He told me I needed to deflate.
Then you handed him your wallet or do you have insurance?
Lol @ some of your responses (especially FFR). Thanks for responding to my response about non-responses. 🙂
It’s all good. I was over by the time I typed it.
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/598920016029818880
“Anyone hear about the new diet, The Deflater?”
Tim — don’t know about the diet, but Tom’s Special Deflater Non-Stout might be a great name for Jahn’s new brew.
LMAO and they are already starting
I made that one up. 🙂
LOL
And credit to Tim for the idea btw!!!
stanger
you got to #49? wow i am impressed. no wonder your are still married.
“basically you are saying that both team;s footballs would have been affected by Ideal Gas Law and since the Colts were not, that is not a sufficient explanation and the Cheats must have manipulated the balls…correct?”
Very close Piggy, but more specifically, the Ideal Gas Law DID affect both teams’ balls, but the Pats are claiming it affected theirs differently somehow despite the balls being subjected to the same temperature change/conditions on the field of play.
You have to send that meme out on twitter Jahn
Took me 2 tries, but I just did…
Uhmmmm… guys……. I have found the missing link. Scientists everywhere are going to be very jealous and it was right there under their noses in Massachusetts the whole time.
Just threw my Bible out the window. 😉
LMAO!!!!
When he turns his head I bet it looks like this:
Patriots newest defense,
I’m so remedial when it comes to twitter. LMAO..
I heard Tom Brady has s tatoo on his lower back that says “Semen Dumpster”. Ironically Omar Kelly has the same one on the inside of his lip.
LMAO!!!!!
Leaked private message to Patriot season ticket holders from the Head Coach.
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/deflate-gate-patriots-colts-memes-10.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=780
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/deflate-gate-patriots-colts-memes-10.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=780
Guess couldn’t get to come up.
That’s what FFR’s NLC’s say all the time…SMH!
Dbolt, saw you replying on twitter to Ian Wharton’s post, that was replying to Omar. Man, you really tore Omar a new ass….LOL Kudos.
LOL. Nothing but honesty in those posts👍
Only Jahn can sound smart when he’s saying he’s stupid. lol
jahndoh says:
May 14, 2015 at 2:55 pm (Edit)
I’m so remedial when it comes to twitter
LOL…
I STOOPID!!!! 😛
ffr,
You called the bucs loses of the NFL and I just reminded you that they’ve won a superbowl more recently than us. So actually we’re bigger losers than they are.
Patriots expert has a bit of a conflict
Might have had more credibility if it came from the makers of Slimfast.
LOL
If Jastremzski was the Deflator I wonder what Wilfork was?
Wow, I just can’t believe the Patriots believe anybody is going to fall for the old “he was trying to lose weight and called himself the deflator” routine.
If I was reviewing the appeal my first order of business regarding that claim would be to make the Pets substantiate it by providing additional texts or emails or some other documentation showing the supposedly “correct” context of “the deflator”.
If the guy used the term so often as to frivolously name himself that in the texts regarding Brady’s balls then it must have been quite common for him to apply the moniker to himself and it should be very easy for the lying, dirty, stinking, cheating, assclown, bastard Pets to prove their absurd claim .
Generally on appeal you can only review the record
I don;t even think the cheats new report will be considered
that is just for public consumption in an attempt to save Brady’s image
brady should be telling Kraft he doesn’t need his help
On previous appeals to the NFL office, new evidence is looked at, specifically in the Saints case, but does it really matter? That is far and away beside the point I was making. It would be very easy to substantiate if there was any truth to it.
When Time weighs in, you are fucked
Newage, meant to say good article today for those who aren’t fully aware of the tainted balls and their perpetrators. 🙂
Good stuff, thanks. Also this tweet below also sheds some light as well. This screams of not being 1 isolated incident, and for that, yes, the punishment is a mere slap on the wrist!
I must sincerely apologize for my failure to enthusiastically respond to Jahn’s pulse pounding treatise on the “Ideal Gas Law”. The fact that I was not on at the time is clearly no excuse. I look forward to further informative and enlightening posts on the fascinating Jaques Charles. …Could an HBO mini-series be in the works? …lol
LMAO…
if Pats lawyer actually said “deflator means weight loss”.. all I can say is THANK YOU for this gift that keeps giving!!!!
This would be the BEST example of the Pats arrogance (translation… out of touch with reality) and attitude of regal power: “so let it be said… so let it be done!” 🙂
Actually cut and pasted. 100% verbatim Go DUBS!!!!!!!!
“Mr. Jastremski would sometimes work out and bulk up — he is a slender guy and his goal was to get to 200 pounds. Mr. McNally is a big fellow and had the opposite goal: to lose weight. “Deflate” was a term they used to refer to losing weight.”
If the deflated balls are easier to maintain possession of, and it appears that they are, wouldn’t it stand to reason that they would also be easier to catch? ..I would be interested to see the Cheatriots dropped pass stats before and after 2007.
Different receivers in those two areas creates too much “noise” to come up with any meaningful conclusions…
You have to admit, watching New England Nation squirm to exonerate themselves with the most absurd excuses is not only great comedy, but makes it worse at the same time. Now the entire state has declared themselves as scientists when in reality they are confirming they might be the dumbest people on the planet. Who would have thought it could be this good? LOL
The ticket prices….
http://www.miamidolphins.com/tickets-and-stadium/single-game-tickets.html?cm_mid=4649423&cm_crmid=3dba265f-0dac-dd11-b5ab-0019b9d743be&cm_medium=email
Cool — looks like they popped up the prices for the good seats, but actually lowered them for the Fest nosebleeds.
Jahn … LOL …I’m so glad you took that in the spirit of fun and frivolity with which it was written …
Pats fans…..
Jahn …That’s a fair point, but it would still be interesting to see if there was a marked difference…
True.
On the above post. I get ya Bat. I get our differences, and I’m cool with that. I think you’re pretty damn funny for the most part.
CavKong:
Generally a principle of appellate law is that you are reviewing a closed record. New evidence is generally not considered unless there is a previous request made to the original finder of fact to consider new or additional evidence after the close of the proceedings. Other than that most appeals are limited to the record made during the fact finding proceeding.
Key part for me is that two games is justified for just no cooperating with the investigation. So I figure that is the least that comes out of this. And I’m thinking the assault by the Pats is going to make Goodell prove who the big dog is.
Ok, lets focus and pick apart that part of my post instead of just taking the post for what it was meant to be:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8118763/new-orleans-saints-jonathan-vilma-lawsuit-asks-quick-appeal-ruling
“In his latest filing, Vilma claims that the NFL’s collective bargaining agreement required Goodell to rule as soon as was practical following a June 18 appeal hearing. Because players, in protest, declined to present new evidence or argue their case in the hearing, Goodell should have been able to rule by June 25, the first business day after the record was closed in the matter, the lawsuit argues.”
The players “…declined to present new evidence or argue their case in the hearing.”
Since they declined to present new evidence in the appeal hearing it stands to reason new evidence can and would be looked at yada, yada, yada.
I am not picking apart your post but the ability to look at new evidence is a significant issue because if what is being appealed is limited to the findings of the fact finder then there is a very different standard of law that is applied to the review. It is a generally a principle of appellate law that the findings of fact are given great deference and the appellant must establish that they are clearly errenous in order to reverse the fact finder’s findings. That is a difficult legal standard to sustain the appeal.
Well since I’ve already established above that in an NFL appeal new evidence can be presented and since the findings of the fact finder, in this case the Wells report, substantially uses the term “the deflator”, among other things, as evidence that the Pets cheated then the Patriots providing evidence that the term “the deflator” was misinterpreted and erroneously categorized by the fact finding report would be one of the first orders of business and easily proven if anything they’ve claimed was even approaching the truth.
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Ex-Dolphins OL coach Jim Turner says Ted Wells was paid $4 million for Bullygate investigation
Hear new evidence we will not!
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BoulderPhinfan says:
May 14, 2015 at 3:28 pm
ffr,
You called the bucs loses of the NFL and I just reminded you that they’ve won a superbowl more recently than us. So actually we’re bigger losers than they are.
boulder, for that matter then only one team isnt a loser and we all know how they won the SB.
what i was referring to however is the bucs have the worst losing % in nfl history, or so i heard on the radio. i personally didnt look it up.
We just got tickets in the nose bleeds for $85 each and that’s $10 cheaper for the same seats at Giants Stadium. That said I’m not sure about that, Giants ticket prices may have gone up. I’ll have to check, just saw my wife’s season ticket bill on the desk last night.
I really should have just posted:
It would be easy for the Cheats to prove “the deflator” means what they claim it means by providing additional texts and stuff but it’s bullshit so they can’t, lol.
Kong
What about all the texts about the footballs and Tom Brady, like the balloon, the rugby ball etc. etc. How does that tie in with the guy being on a diet?
Um…it doesn’t? Which is why it’s preposterous to believe if this guy was really called this in regards to losing weight there would only be texts calling him that in relation to Brady, his balls and so on.
LOL, they dig themselves deeper and deeper with every excuse.
Cav:
I don’t think the arbitrator can look at new evidence. There was probably some specific issue as to why that was allowed in the Bountygate appeal. So pretty much It is a tough road for Brady and the Pats to win on appeal.
That is true and I tweeted something similar today
Instead of proving Brady didn’t do it – they picked apart Tedd wells report
They are trying to create doubt about the conclusion
but this is what Ken and I were referring to yesterday
the evidentiary standard is not a criminal standard
more probably than not/preponderence of the evidence is not about creating doubt
its about proving your side of the story
Bob Kraft should ask for his money back from his attorneys…..lol
Bite your tongue Piggy, that was some of the most creative lawyering I have seen in a long time. Who ever came up with deflator = weight loss is entitled to every billable hour he charged.
Absolutely agreed they are just throwing a bunch of shit in the air to cloud it. This has been a concerted attack on very level from Brady’s attorney all the way up to the highest levels of the organization. As I originally stated (and was really the whole point of my post until all this stupid legal wrangling) it would be easy for the Pets to prove “deflator” was misinterpreted if there was any truth to their story because there would be supporting evidence.
The idea he would only be called that in the context we’ve seen yet we’re supposed to believe this was a common moniker for him is absurd.
The issue of whether or not the term “deflator” was interpreted correctly is something that could be subject to appeal but they would not be allowed to consider other texts that are not part of the record.
Sorry, not taking this on your word. Maybe a court of law is different than an NFL appeal. New evidence can be presented in an NFL appeal so what makes texts and emails evidence that wouldn’t be allowed.
Cav:
I would have to see the CBA but by and large most appeals are limited to the findings of fact. However, as this collectively bargained and this was the result of an agency investigation and not an adversarial proceeding there may be some provision for allowing the appellant to produce evidence. If there is I would assume it is fairly limited in scope.
^^ = you may be right but I’ll couch it in lawyer speak so that I don’t have to say that. 😉
I really do have to go back to work now.
Cheers, Ken.
so just catching up and noticed. so in NE deflate means to lose weight huh??? so then if i was interested in putting on some weight and sitting at a bar talking to some chick it would be ok to tell her. ‘hey, i am trying to put on some weight, mind helping inflate me……here, just put your mouth around here and blow me’
That’s what linemen in the NFL do, they go to whores to put on the weight. No longer are the days when they would drink milkshakes. Now they use inflation techniques. It’s more fun, takes less time and the whore gets a milkshake too. LOL
Today’s PSA for the hungry swine loving bloggers here.
This is disgusting!!!