Welcome to Ask Mike – 2015 Preseason Week 1

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Before I get down to Ask Mike business, I just want to thank Piggy and Sonny for all of their hard work, and all the time and effort they have made to keep all of us entertained and educated about our team. I think we should all give them a big thanks, they have been pumping out article after article,  day in and day out for quite some time now. Not many Miami Dolphins blogs can boast that. Thank you!

from Al

Q – Mike,
I might as well get this question out of the way for ya,
What do you
think about the Dolphins TE situation? LOL (queue the Lynch venom)

I’m not totally shocked that Lynch’s tenure has come to an end. Last year he was on IR, and this year, he didn’t really show anything that gave the coaches a reason to want him on our roster, while Jake Stoneburner and Tim Semisch have shown some promise. Stoneburner made a couple of nice catches in the preseason game against the Bears, and Semisch is an intriguing player with size, 6’8” 266 lbs. I think we all knew that Lynch’s stronger point was blocking as opposed to receiving, but with Sims here who fills that role, I think we needed some diversity.

The biggest issue for us this year at TE, is the health of Jordan Cameron. He’s an all-pro TE when he’s healthy. The problem is, he’s too often NOT healthy. In 2014 he played in 10 games starting 9. in 13, easily his best season, he played in 15 games starting 14. He finished that year with 80 receptions for 917 yards, and 7 TD’s. That’s what I’d love to see from him this year. He does that, anything else we get is gravy! Sims has come a long way from when he was first a Miami Dolphin, and I think he could start if he had to, but he doesn’t have the talent and athleticism of Jordan Cameron. Cameron is a stud TE. Stoneburner could be a decent 3rd TE, and I do believe they like the size and potential of Tim Semisch. We may carry as many as 4-5 TE’s, last year we carried 4. Considering the health risk of Cameron, we might take 5.
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from Lee (Uwantwat)

Q – Mike. E.

I have to ask you this as you have seemed to be OL fixated in recent years.
Have the Phins done enough to put together a solid OL?
Do you think we still need to sign and overpay for Evan Mathis or a non ZBS OG in Andy Levitre?
I won’t bother you with inane comments regarding the newest Yet TE. I’m sure another will ask you.
Thanks,
Lee (uwantwat)

Thanks for the question and for participating Lee. Glad to have you on the blog!

To answer your question, I’m not sure yet, but I think it’s pretty obvious to anyone who knows me that I don’t think we’ve properly addressed the O-line. Too many questions abound. Sure, everyone wants to take for granted that #71 will be the Branden Albert he’s been for his entire career. He had major knee reconstruction. He tore both his ACL and MCL joints, and that was November 9th. Consider the fact that we’re talking about a guy who needs to remain stable and endure tons of force in the trenches, and a guy that weighs about 320 lbs, that’s a lot to ask. He might be back at some point, maybe even game 1, but will he be the same guy he’s been? I’m not sure. So that leaves Jason Fox at LT. Jamil Douglas looked OK in a very short sample of play, against a team learning a new defense. I’m not sure he’s ready for prime time, but time will tell. Same goes for Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner. They didn’t have a full game of play yet, and they haven’t played a team yet with a stout DL.

I feel like this years team has “We’re going for it!” written all over it. They brought in Suh, gave Tannehill a huge contract, signed Greg Jennings and Kenny Stills. If we’re going for it, why not finish the sundae with a nice cherry on top, and bring in the solid OG Evan Mathis. We will be severely capstrung next season, I realize that, but what a a shame it would be to have everything working, except the O-line. This year I would have taken an OT/OG in the first RD because of the fact that Albert may not be 100%, and also because our OG’s were unimpressive. We waited until the 4th RD to take Jamil Douglas, and I think it was too little too late. Stay tuned!
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from Ken

Q – How many games will Brady actually serve if any for his suspension from deflate gate? And what will be the Pats record in those games?

I think he will serve 4 games. It disgusts me that the courts are involved in this nonsense, and frankly, his latest stance that he wants to be punished for non cooperation rather than cheating tells me how selfish he is. It’s all about him and his legacy. He doesn’t want it tarnished, well he should have thought of that before breaking the damn rules!

I think even if the courts get involved (and they are), they will find the NFL has enough evidence (by their own rules) to suspend Brady for as long as they have, and he will serve the entire 4 game suspension.

I think Garoppolo will be 0-1 facing the Steelers. I think Garoppolo gets Buffoppoloed against the Buffalo Bills defense, so 0-2. I think The Patriots, despite playing with a shellshocked Garoppolo, they manage to edge out the upstart Jags by a FG or less to go to 1-2. Then the Patriots go to Texas to face the Cowboys, and Jerry Jones gets the last laugh, as the Bradyless Patriots finish 1-3 without their cheating QB.

So there you have it Ken, 1-3, with a chance at 0-4 if the Jaguars are as improved as I think they could be.
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from Stanger

Q – We are all excited about what Suh can do for this defense.   Just that one exceptional guy creates opportunities for the others on the D-Line and takes pressure off the LBs and DBs. Hopefully it will give them a chance to think more about making plays rather than just stopping them.   Without even going into where else his money could have gone, are you concerned about the one hugely important egg in one very large basket factor?   Just as much as he helps the D, if he goes down we’ll be left with a less talented D than the one that was at best average end of last season.

stanger

Definitely concerned Jon. You look around the NFL, and not one other team has as much money tied up into a defensive lineman. The Dolphins have approximately 17-18% of their salary dedicated to Suh, where the 2nd highest is Tampa Bay Buccaneers DT Gerald McCoy, who takes up 8% of their salary cap. His 6 YR/$95,200M contract is plenty, but the biggest cap hit McCoy has was last year at $21.3M, but through the next few years, his salary cap maxes out at $14.6M this year, and goes down from there. Suh on the other hand has a cap crushing $28.6M next season, and then $22.1 and $22.4M respectively in 2018 and 2019. Consider that Ryan Tannehill’s new contract gives us a hit of $11.6M next season, and goes up to whopping $20.3M in 2017, and stays right around there through to 2020, that’s 2 players eating a whole lot of cap space.

Suh really does change the face of our defense, and if his play, and demeanor become infectious with his teammates, and he exceeds his play with the Detroit Lions, it may be worth it. Of course an injury would be devastating, so I won’t even discuss that. It’s always a risk giving a huge contract to a player, but sometimes they make the difference. Look what LeBron did with the Heat!

Everyone on the defense will benefit from Suh being there, we just haven’t had a player like him. I’d be shocked if Wake, Vernon, Fede, Shelby and anyone else playing DT don’t have better numbers with Suh on the field. Most of all I want Suh here in December, where Joe gets _ _ _ _ _ y, and the rest of the team _ _ _ _ _ s.  Suh won’t allow that!
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from UK

Q – Hey Mike,

Good to see you back in the chair as it means another season is right round the corner.

So, it looks like the Jets and Pats are going to start handicapped and the Bills are still the Bills. Does this mean we win the East for the first time in a very long time?

Cheers
UK

You know what UK, I really, and truly believe it does! I do think it’s our time, and I also believe that if our O-line really isn’t working, we’re going to cave in and sign Evan Mathis. I think we’ve come too far to stop now. The Bills still scare me, because they’ve beaten us without a QB before. They’re defense is ferocious, and as scary as our own is now. They also feel like they can beat us, because they have. We need to change that, and with the growth of Tannehill, and the addition of Suh, I think we will.

The Jets may not necessarily be handicapped by the loss of Geno. Fitzpatrick is also an inconsistent QB, but he’s consistently better than Geno. Geno may have had a higher ceiling, but I think Fitz gives them a better chance each week than Geno. Despite that, We have a better team than the Jets, so I do think this is the year for us to come out on top.

The Patriots losing Brady will be a huge hit, and hopefully he misses the 4 games he should miss, and his suspension isn’t reduced by the courts, who really have no business in the NFL’s business. That’s total bullsh!t. Garoppolo is not going to lead that team like Brady, and hearing at some point earlier this year that Garoppolo will still be the best QB in the AFC East really pissed me off! Sickened me actually. The lack of respect to Geno Smith (Just kidding!), the lack of respect shown to Ryan Tannehill in that statement, and I can’t even remember who said it, but it was replayed on NFL radio, is just absurd. Ryan Tannehill may finish as a better QB this year than Tom Brady, never mind his understudy Jimmy.
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from Pigsgerald Oinkustus Bacon

Q – Dear Mike E.
I heard John Clayton call our offense a Don Coryell style offense recently.  He also said we are no longer a west coast offense.  Do you think that is true?  Did Philbin abandon his roots?  Any idea what Clayton means?  How would you describe our offense?  

Also, can we agree that piggies are bound to rule the Earth one day?

– Pigsgerald 

Is John Clayton still alive? Wow! No seriously, I think we can all understand this, especially watching last year, where we threw the ball far more than we ran it. However, I don’t believe for a second that that’s the formula for this years offense. I think Philbin would prefer to run more, but we have to be effective doing it, and have the horses to do it. I hope Ajayi gets healthy, and shows he’s ready for the NFL, because I like the tandem of MillerTime, Ajayi and Williams. I get the feeling after watching the game the other day that LaMike is gonna be LaGone. He didn’t show me a thing on returns, and he went down so easily running into the back of his own man, Jordan Kovacs, and Kovacs wasn’t pushed backwards either.

Keep in mind that Ajayi is a 2nd RD talent, and for a RB that’s a compliment. Yes, he was drafted in the 5th due to medical concerns, but those concerns aren’t immediate concerns, but long term concerns. I think if he can get healthy, he will flash and be part of the RB group that should put up some nice yardage totals. I don’t think we’re going to pass 35-40 times per game, and run 15-20 again. I think we might some games, but not as a general strategy. I think we’ll run when we can run, and pass when we can pass, whichever works best against whatever defense we play each week.
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And now for the babe of the week . . .

Mrs Met

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646 Responses to Welcome to Ask Mike – 2015 Preseason Week 1

  1. ukfinfan's avatar ukfinfan says:

    First!
    And thanks to Mike E for an excellent read and Pigsgerald and SOASOASOASOASOAS and all admins for their excellent on going contributions.

  2. TryPod's avatar Try Pod says:

    If that’s the “babe of the week”, we’re in for a long season.

  3. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Comparing today’s babe to the Dolphins cheerleader of the month series shows one more way that football is better than baseball.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Tannehill had the league’s fifth-highest completion percentage last season, so there’s no doubt that he’s one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the league.

      This is why I discount these BS articles, to take a stat like that and assume he’s accurate without putting in the time to see that his completion percentage has more to do with the short passes he threw than being accurate is bush. With that said RT has come a long way this offseason with his accuracy, but only time will tell how accurate he can be.

      One thing that all the experts seem to miss is how well he did the first 3 qtrs. and between the 20s, FGs still count as points. Why do the Cheats always crush Luck and the Colts? Because Luck’s biggest asset is his come from behind ability, but when he plays the Cheats the game is already over before the 4th qtr. Put RT on the Colts and have him play the first 3 qtrs (less the redzone) and Luck play the rest and they win the SB hands down.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Another BS article, this guy didn’t research the fact that Miller put on 10 lbs of muscle. I believe he does get 20 carries in several games this yr. Ajayi will not be splitting carries with him, he’ll just also be getting some.

  4. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    http://nflspinzone.com/2015/07/04/nfl-power-rankings-30-best-tight-ends-for-2015/22/
    Spoiler alert: read the blurb at the bottom of Vernon Davis’s page @ #11 which leads to the guy at #10. yeah you know who it is!! Ranked higher than Vernon f’n Davis!!!
    btw Clay is 9th … oh well … we’ll see if he can put up numbers without Tannehill throwing to him.

  5. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    http://nflspinzone.com/2015/07/27/nfl-power-rankings-top-30-safeties-2015/2/
    We lost the 30th best safety, but we still have the 8th best (same article).

  6. jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

    Hey Mike I have a question but I forget to send it.

    Does car tires psi decrease or increase in cold weather? What about warm weather does the tire psi increase or decrease?

  7. Dloxahatchee's avatar dcoralsprings says:

    Looks like Delmas has a torn MCL, that blows, a great player that can’t stay healthy

    • D's avatar D says:

      Delmas is almost exactly what we are looking for in a safety. Song tackler, solid run sort, but pretty decent balls skills to go with it, but part of the game and a player with is durability. I hate it, he’s great for many reasons to have on this team but was inevitable he would be replaced soon so I have been prepared for this dinner they resigned him

  8. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    jetssuck

    Tires definitely deflate in the colder weather. But . . .

    It takes time, it won’t deflate within the time of a football game (3 hours), and a football doesn’t have 2500-6000 lbs pushing down on it, squeezing the air out. In fact, the football isn’t really supporting any weight in the majority of its use, so the comparison really doesn’t work for me. Even if Brady’s suspension is cut short, or eliminated completely, in my mind, he, and his team tried to skirt the rules, and got caught, which makes him a cheater. Criminals often plea bargain, but they’re still criminals nonetheless.

  9. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Bad news with Delmas. I saw this morning that it was his ACL again. That’s a real bad injury on the same knee. His career may very well be over. Feel bad for the guy.

  10. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Great job Mike!

    Now that we know what you get off to. I don’t think Jared Fogle… 😉

  11. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Nice job Mike E. I hope you are right about your answer on Brady. My gut tells me there will be an 11th hour deal and he will serve 2 games and the Pats will go 1-1 in those games. But I like your answer better.

  12. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Good job, Mike E. Sorry I forgot to send you my question but Al covered it with our TEs.

  13. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    nice job mike. I hope brady is suspended 4 games. Anything less then the NFL is becoming a rigged league. Its not enough that brady gets all the calls he has to get away with cheating as well? that’s bullshit.

  14. D's avatar D says:

    No one should try to use the weather deflated the balls argument at this juncture for multiple reasons least not being that they already tried pinning it in a patsy and admitted it was human intervention that led to it. For fucjs sake of he wants to protest the penalty, do that but stop the asinine argument that you had nothing to do with it Brady. Be a man take your penalty move past it

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      Pretty much my thoughts exactly. We all know the balls were taken and manipulated by an equipment manager. That has been proven. It is inferred that Brady knew and the argument that he didn’t seems unrealistic. To me the real question is is all that worth a 4 game suspension? I think there is a real argument that it is not as it different than PED use and more akin to WRs using stickum. But this idea that the weather caused the deflation is absolute BS.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      I also hate the fact that Brady is trying to control the investigative report’s findings. You don’t get to do that. The investigator is going to report what he found and as the subject of the investigation your options are to either agree or disagree with the report but not to re-write the report to your liking.

  15. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Ask Mike is back…….smells like football. And a great job of it to boot.

    Surprised that the prediction for us to win the division made it through the censors on this Dolphins hater blog. 🙂

  16. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Ken

    I can agree that the cheating probably didn’t make a significant impact on that game, but you can look at this as he’s receiving a 2 game penalty for cheating, and a 2 game penalty on top of that for not cooperating.

  17. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Ya know — I’m actually going to give Brady the benefit of the doubt. He might not have actually known that the balls were being deflated post-referee check. Could be he knew they tried to make them as soft as they could before him, but not the ball guy in the bathroom with the pin.

    After becoming BFFs with the deflators after it hit the press…….he darn sure knew what went down by the time he talked to the league investigators though. Just like Watergate, you can get in more trouble for the cover up.

  18. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, not sure we’re exactly an Air Coryell offense as Clayton stated but we’re not a WCO under Lazor. We’re a spread/read option offense. The roots of a true WCO does not use a lot of shotgun and relies on a lot more play-action. But Bill Walsh’s WCO was a modified version of the Air Coryell offense. It’s all so confusing. LOL

    Did you know that Bill Parcells actually coined the name WCO?
    “The term “West Coast offense”, as it is now commonly used, derives from a remark made by then-New York Giants coach Bill Parcells after the Giants defeated the San Francisco 49ers 17-3 in the 1985 playoffs. Parcells, a believer in tough defense over finesse-oriented offense, scornfully derided the 49ers’ offense with the statement, “What do you think of that West Coast Offense now?”

  19. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Mike E
    You didn’t like my question?

    Wyoming85 Axes

    SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    We have talked a lot about the OG’s and their inability to block a boy named Suh!

    But against Da-Bears starting DL we were pretty clean up front. 2 penalties and one wiff

    To hell with it I don’t want to talk about them anymore!

    What do you think of our young ball hawking secondary?

  20. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 6m6 minutes ago
    The Panther first team offense just scored on a deep pass and I believe Walt Aikens was trailing. Didn’t see it up close, but wasn’t pretty.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      LOL, I knew someone would jump on this. You do know Aikens started in the Bears PS game and there were no issues. Everyone gets beat in practice.

  21. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    I’m not sure Walsh used a variation of Don Coryell but then again almost all football concepts are interrelated (just different aspects are emphasized). Prior to his stint at SD, Walsh had been Ken Anderson’s QB coach and offensive coordinator. Coryell relied on a strong vertical game and use of TE while Walsh focused on horizontal movement of WR on shorter routes. Walsh’s first successful run was with Ken Anderson (who didn’t have a big arm).

  22. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Boulder,
    LOL @ “I didn’t see it up close”. Criticism without certainty LOL.

  23. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Shoot Wyo – I’m sorry man. I started doing th article in the morning, and then I had to take a ride all the way to Long Island to look at a car for my son, and I didn’t get back until 8:45 last night, and then I was kind of rushing because I had to get up early for work. I had your question out and was prepared to answer it, but I screwed up.

    In any case, I like Grimes, and I LOVE the potential of Lippett, but I’m still not sure who lines up opposite Grimey. Is it Jamar Taylor (Can he stay healthy?), is it Will Davis (Can HE stay healthy?), is it Zack Bowman (Who’s been torched regularly in practice), or Brice McCain? My hope is that the pressure we generate from our pass rush will make the job easier on our defensive backs. Obviously the loss of Delmas hurts, but Aikens looks like he’s ready to jump in, and Reshad is a good’un, so we have 3 out of 4 spots taken care. I think Brice McCain is the nickel, and I like him there, and one of theother guys will be the dime who doesn’t start opposite Grimes.

  24. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    WTF

    Breaking911 ‏@Breaking911 3h3 hours ago
    Former NFL Quarterback Erik Kramer Shoots Himself In Attempted Suicide But Survives

  25. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Tim,

    I’m dying laughing at that last Omar tweet. I can’t stop thinking about Jim Mora’s classic rant during a press conference where he tells the media guys questioning certain plays “You don’t know whether it’s good or bad when it comes right down to it. And I promise you right now that you don’t know when it’s good or bad…You really don’t know because you don’t know what we are trying to do… you guys don’t look at the films… you don’t know what happened…. You really don’t know. You think you know, but you don’t know. And you never will.” LOL.

  26. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    LOL — Wyoming’s mental image mental image after reading today’s Ask Mike.

  27. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Here’s the passive aggressive Omar we all know 🙂

    Omar Kelly @OmarKelly 32 m ago
    These QBs are polar opposite. Cam Newton consistently goes for the big play in practice. Ryan Tannehill dinks and dunks all day.

  28. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LOL @ Stanger

  29. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mike, did you see yesterday that we found an old painting of you riding your pet dinosaur?

  30. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Great ask Mike
    Lol@the babe of the week

  31. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Just bustin on you brother!

    Work sucks!!!!!!!!!!

    Fuckin soakin ass wet from working in the rain this morning! 😦

    Gonna be a long day!

  32. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Regarding the Delmas injury, I really like the young DB talent and am not concerned. Aikens (second year S); rookies Cedric Thompson (safety), Lippett (corner), & McCain (corner) are showing promise. There is a learning curve of course and i’m sure they will give up a few big ones here and there at times but they probably will also pick off passes or break up passes that previous corners around here didn’t do.

  33. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Miami Dolphins Cheer ‏@MDCheer 43m43 minutes ago
    Say hello to Miss April 2016! Congrats to 4 year captain, @MDC_Alison. Check out http://dolphinscheerleaders.com for more.

  34. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mike E, we also found your first stereo and football jersey.

  35. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LMAO @ those pics! That’s funny. Shoot, in 2 days I’m going to be 1,052

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      LOL, all it takes is one comment from D and off to the races we go. 🙂

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        I’ve been looking for a car for my son, and we saw one in Hempstead Long Island, so I took a ride with him, the traffic was outrageous, and although we really liked the car, the A/C was blowing hot air, and the rear passenger window wouldn’t open from the drivers controls. It opened with the switch in the back, but not from the front. We have to go back after they fix those things and pick it up Saturday. The sacrifices us caveparents make!

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Point being, i missed the whole day yesterday.

  36. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Wyo

    That’s cool man, I deserve it. I do appreciate you sending in questions all the time.

  37. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I remember Kramer from his Lions days

    He was the qb for the lions for probably their best years with Barry Sanders
    They also had Herman Moore and I think Moore had 100 catch season with Kramer

    Kramer was average qb in an era where great running games and defenses were more likely to get you to the post season than a great passing game

    Even though he was average he was a huge assett for the lions

    I just read that his son died in 2011
    So it may be more than just concussion stuff
    I haven’t see QBs with those issues yet
    It’s more like LBs who are hitting some one all the time
    But in that era, QBs took a lot of blindside and big hits

    Do you remember when we used to say stuff like (the LB didn’t take 2 steps before hitting the qb, so it’s legal”?
    Ahhhh those were the days of great football
    🙂

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Funny, the first team that came to my mind with Kramer was Da Bears

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      Kramer had some pretty good moments. He played with both Lions and Bears. He burst on the scene during a late season playoff run where he was on fire but when given the full time job he couldn’t keep that up and then had health issues.

  38. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    August 20, 2015 at 9:26 am (Edit)
    The court shouldn’t even have accepted the case, but money talks, so…
    Reply
    Ken says:
    August 20, 2015 at 9:28 am (Edit)
    I think the NFL initiated the case

    ****
    Ken
    How does that happen?
    How does the nfl appeal it’s own decision?
    I’ve seen that reported
    But I think it’s a mistake
    I know the nfl field papers to have the forum changed from Minnesota to NY
    I think maybe the media took that and ran with it, without realizing that the players union initiated the case

    I keep hearing that the NFL asks the fed ct to confirm it’s decision
    And I don’t get that at all procedurally

    If the NFL did that
    And it’s permissable
    I think it’s the dumbest thing I ever head a party do

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Pig — only thing I can figure is that with ongoing disputes under the CBA that the fed courts (thinking the unions favorite one in MN) maintained jurisdiction on future disputes concerning the CBA in some fashion. What is for sure is that the NFL couldn’t turn to the fed court and just say “tell us we did this right” absent either ongoing court authority or some federal union law provision of some sort.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Yeah
        I agree
        You just can’t so that
        But maybe soemthing happened in the course of the AP case that lead to the NFL being able to do this?

        I don’t know
        I don’t see it
        I think it might be reported wrong
        I think sports journalist are confusing filing papers to. Change forum with initiating a case

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Pretty sure our favorite court reporters didn’t exactly follow what the legalities involved were. My guess is the best of them asked some lawyer who said, “basically this is what the NFL is trying to do” from a stategic standpoint and just ran with it.

  39. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I think Kramers really good year with the lions was the year the redskins won the Super Bowl (1991?)
    The redskins won with Mark rypien
    I think the lions may have lost to the redskins in the postseason

    That was Year after jeff hosteller won with the Giants

    Think about those QBs
    Do you think teams win today with those guys?

    The game has changed so much

  40. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Kramer was a solid QB. Yes his son did die of a drug overdose but he also has another 17 year old son. This is a pretty good article on it and what his ex-wife thinks.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-nfl-qb-erik-kramer-wounded-apparent-suicide-attempt-sources-n412831

  41. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Eric Kramer vs Mark Rypien in the 1991 NFC championship

    That is what the game used to be

    It makes me angry
    I don’t want to hear how great Manning and Brady are compared to Montana, Marino, Elway or even Kelly

    Frankly I take Dan Fouts or Fran Tarkenton over Tom Brady if they are all playing by the same rules and Brady is forced to follow those rules

  42. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mike, driving in LI sucks. The traffic can be often brutal. So was this a car from the owner or dealership? What kind of car?

  43. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    I guess Misi is going to miss the 2nd preseason game with calf injury

    • Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

      Story of his career. He’s talented no doubt but he can’t stay healthy and as Jimmy Johnson used to say, an injured player is worse than any backup because he can’t contribute.

  44. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I love them too!

  45. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Mike

    Get your son a jeep!
    🙂

    I’ve been driving I. Long Island a lot lately too
    Going through queens to get there is crazy traffic sometimes

  46. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Stanger

    I believe Robert Moses was responsible for many of the highways in Long Island. He was a brilliant man actually, but I’m guessing they never anticpated that much traffic.

  47. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    They have a lot of expressways in Long Island

  48. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Boulder

    A Look at Our Linebackers

    Go to the bottom of the article

  49. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    So Piggy, what they’re saying is poor folk couldn’t get out to Long ISland because they didn’t have cars, and that was his plan? Interesting. Could be.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Thing is, I suppose you could say that about any suburbian town.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      He cutoff funding for the subway reaching to Long Island to try to keep the city out of LI

      That is what I heard anyway
      I’m not an Authority on the subject

      But the guy was the dominant force in NYC and by state in terms of urban planning after the depression and through the 70s
      So almost everything mode of transportation in the region now used, is a result of his planning

      The extent that it was done to segregate people is the subject of debate when people talk a out him

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        People who live in LI rarely leave the place. If you have relatives out there you have to go to then. Douches! LOL

  50. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Misi continuing to get banged up is frustrating. If he doesn’t get over this and have a good healthy season he’ll be replaced next year. He’s making too much money to not be reliable.

  51. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Tom Brady would cry if he played back in the 80s.

  52. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    To my mind the best road designer in the world was the guy who did the George Washington Bridge…..how is this for planning ahead?
    ——————-
    “Construction on the bridge began in October 1927….

    In 1946, two more lanes were created on the current upper level, widening it from the original six lanes.

    A second, lower deck, which had been anticipated in Ammann’s original plans, was opened to the public in 1962, which increased the capacity of the bridge by 75 percent, and simultaneously made the George Washington Bridge the world’s only 14-lane suspension bridge.”

  53. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Piggy

    When D-linemen were allowed to head slap, guys Like Dick “Night Train” Lane were on the QB very fast and very violently. There were no unnnecessary roughness calls back then.

  54. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LOL @ the LI douches!

  55. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Stanger
    Just drove over the Verazzano Bridge yesterday, and every time I go over it I’m amazed at what an engineering feat it was. That’s a long ass bridge!

  56. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mike, didn’t you just drive over it or did you come back to NJ using it?

  57. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
    #Dolphins safety Michael Thomas claims “trust” will earn him starting free safety spot.
    ___________________________
    Good perspective young man….keep grinding and you can do it.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      May the best man win. Both Aikens and Thomas are going to play a lot. Except we don’t play FS and SS, we play right and left. I don’t know how many times Coyle has to explain this. LOL

  58. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Hal Habib @gunnerhal
    Whoa. Dolphins Cancer Challenge includes concert at Sun Life Feb. 20 with Sheryl Crow and Melissa Etheridge.
    ___________________________
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  59. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    Al,
    I think the FO made a mistake of relying on Misi’s health for linebacker situation. The guy is always injured. I wished we’d addressed LBs better in the offseason.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      They did, they resigned Sheppard, brought in Paysinger, and 4 UDFA LB’s, plus they knew Tripp was stepping up in his 2nd year.

      Other positions had to be addressed too.

  60. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    James Walker ✔ @JamesWalkerNFL
    #Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill: Offensive line is coming together http://es.pn/1J72DpT
    _____________________
    Love how he keeps positive, helps build these guys confidence. Not a pouter like Cutler or whiner like Brady.

  61. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    August 20, 2015 at 11:49 am (Edit)

    August 20, 2015 at 9:26 am (Edit)
    The court shouldn’t even have accepted the case, but money talks, so…
    Reply
    Ken says:
    August 20, 2015 at 9:28 am (Edit)
    I think the NFL initiated the case

    ****
    Ken
    How does that happen?
    How does the nfl appeal it’s own decision?
    I’ve seen that reported
    But I think it’s a mistake
    I know the nfl field papers to have the forum changed from Minnesota to NY
    I think maybe the media took that and ran with it, without realizing that the players union initiated the case
    ____________________________________________
    I don’t know the exact details of what is alleged but I have heard it reported more than once that the case was initiated by the NFL in New York in an effort to keep the case from being heard in Minnesota where the NFLPA always files because they know they have favorable judges there. I would assume the cause of action would be something akin to a declaratory judgment action where the NFL is seeking to determine it’s rights under the CBA to take the action that it date. But I don’t know for sure what the league actually plead.

  62. Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

    Piggy/Ken,

    The PA had made it crystal clear to the NFL that they were going to file over the brady punishment. The court they would’ve filed in was Judge Doty’s domain in the US District Court of Minnesota. The NFL has NEVER won a decision with Judge Doty sitting.

    They elected to pre-empt the PA’s maneuver by doing this, at the time I thought it was actually a shrewd move. Doty=defeat for the NFL. Every time. : (From NBC Sports):

    “On Tuesday, the NFL immediately filed in federal court in Manhattan a lawsuit seeking confirmation of the arbitration award that suspended Patriots quarterback Tom Brady for four games. On Wednesday, the NFLPA filed a competing lawsuit in Minnesota.

    On Thursday, the Minnesota court stepped aside.

    As NFLPA spokesman George Atallah said during an appearance on The Dan Patrick Show, the Minnesota case has been transferred to New York, where the NFL first filed the case.

    While the NFL managed to avoid Minnesota, they still have to deal with Judge Richard M. Berman, who was appointed to the bench by a Democratic president — which means that Judge Berman’s overall philosophies and precedents will more likely favor labor, not management.

    On Wednesday, Judge Berman directed the NFLPA to respond to the NFL’s lawsuit by August 13. The transferred case from Minnesota possibly constitutes that response.

    Regardless, look for the NFLPA to swiftly ask Judge Berman to rule on the case by September 4 or, alternatively, to issue an injunction allowing Brady to play pending the outcome of the case.”

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I read something similiar to the first part and that is what got m really confused about the procedural posture

      As far as I know, you can’t do (ordinarily) what the report says the NFL did
      but then again, maybe something in a labor law somehwere or int he CBA allows a party to file a lawsuit confirming
      Maybe that is how its possible

      transferring the case from MN to NY is a forum change. whether or not a party filed the case, that party can seek a forum change. So the NFL did not have to file first to get it to NY and avoid Doty

      I forgot the standard from my Fed pro class in my first year of law school – but generally forum requires some nexus between the place and the cause of action. and considering that the NFL is HQ in NYC, the events took place in Foxboro, the team is in Foxboro, MN doesn;t make sense as a forum. The only reason the case would have been filed in MN is to get in front of Doty and her Peterson precedent (which indicates to me that a case was filed by the NFLPA and not the NFL)

      In short I think some of the info being reported may be wrong and in fact the NFL filing was not a request for the fed court to confirm the ruling, but simply a forum change after the NFLPA sought to have the fed Cot review the ruling.

      But the 2nd to last para you wrote above really causes me to rethink that. If the NFL PA was directed to respond by 8/13, that response is called an “Answer” and the initiating party does not “Answer” a case. Which means 2 things have to be wrong in that quote – not just 1. which means I might be dead wrong about it, in terms of why the fed court is hearing it to begin with.

      You might think its shrewd by the NFL to preempt the NFLPA (if they had a right to do that) but I don’t. I think its asinine, the biggest advantage the NFL had in this case was to take the position that a fed court should not be involved in a ruling made pursuant to a CBA – but you throw that out the window when you ask a court to confirm your ruling. And you can bet the NFLPA doesn’t have a problem with the Fed Court possibly undoing it.

  63. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    “Our defensive line is one of the best in the league. So for them to go against them every day, it’s only going to strengthen their ability,” Tannehill told reporters in Spartanburg, S.C., on Wednesday. “To come out here and do a great job all day, especially with all of these pressures they’re getting, being able to pass them off, [identify] them correctly. I thought they did a great job.”

    Tannehill is the NFL’s most-sacked quarterback (139 times) in the past three seasons. An improved offensive line will go a long way to helping the Dolphins’ offense take the next step.

    “Yeah, they’re definitely becoming better each and every day,” Tannehill said. “I sensed it in the beginning that they had some work to do, but the more that those guys play together, the more consistent they get.”

  64. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Tim Knight says:
    August 20, 2015 at 12:41 pm (Edit)
    People who live in LI rarely leave the place. If you have relatives out there you have to go to then. Douches! LOL

    **************

    LOL
    Its true
    I’m actually thinking of moving to Long Beach

  65. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    GD, how do you do those more intricate emoticons?

  66. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Jahn owes me a beer. And I want one of his good ones. LOL.

  67. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    If Misi doesn’t start practicing next week and play in game #3, the dress rehearsal game, then Philbin needs to be ready to move on from him, just make him a depth guy during the season behind whoever wins the middle.

  68. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Agree GDP.
    I think Hickey & Tannenbaum would have loved to do more for the LB & OL positions but they had to plug the DL position, haul over the WR position, deal with the TE position (Clay leaving), and restock the aging secondary with new talent. I think the management philosophy is that they are confident in their ability to scout LB and pick up serviceable guys later in the draft or out of the UDFA/ NFL FA pool. OL needed OG talent competition due to Turner/Thomas/Douglas having relatively little NFL game experience as a whole. I think most GM believe OG talent is alot easier to find than some of the other positions discussed (for obvious reasons…plenty of OT move to OG).

  69. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Miami Dolphins ‏@MiamiDolphins 3m3 minutes ago
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  70. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 6m6 minutes ago
    The 50 greatest draft choices in Miami Dolphins history. Wonder who’s No. 1? #Finsat50:

    http://media.miamiherald.com/static/media/projects/2015/fins-at-50/draft-hits/index.html

  71. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 4m4 minutes ago
    …And the Miami Dolphins 50 biggest draft busts (I don’t agree with No. 50 but not my list). #Finsat50:

    http://media.miamiherald.com/static/media/projects/2015/fins-at-50/draft-busts/index.html

  72. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    great job mike, this is your best ask mike ever, well maybe not the one you did in september of 1834 but this is right up there. i couldnt stop reading it.

  73. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Jahn

    this is from Wiki

    “On July 29 the NFL Players Association (NFLPA) announced that they filed an injunction in Minnesota that would prevent the NFL from enforcing the four-game suspension that commissioner Roger Goodell confirmed.[61][62] On July 30, a Minnesota judge ordered the lawsuit be transferred to New York.[63]”

    I know Wiki is not always reliable
    but I am telling you – I really think some of this stuff is being reported wrong by the sports media. They just don;t udnerstand the way the law works

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      Piggy:

      To my understanding the case got sent to NY because there was the action already pending there brought by the NFL. I read your argument about having a nexus to the jurisdiction and I don’t know what the nexus is in Minnesota but I know that the District Court in Minnesota has handled a number of these matters in the past and not just involving the Vikings so there must be some basis to jurisdiction there.

  74. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero
    The Orange Bowl cost $340,000 to build. Covered my first NFL game there. #Finsat50:
    __________________________________

    WOW, you can’t even build a parking lot at a stadium for that these days….lol

  75. ocalahowie's avatar ocalahowie says:

    I dont count the steJ out by no means. To me Geno Smith aint everything and Fitzpatrick is quite servicable.
    Throw in Revis and Marshall plus whoever.
    Yeah, If we had those 3 we would be 2-14 but watch them make it work.
    Patsies, 4 games 2 games it dont matter… They go .500 there and we havent played them yet.
    They are going to win 10-12 more down the line and thats that!
    What AFC east season would be complete without some Rex
    You know the Jills are a thorn in our side even if they suck…
    The way I see it we’re finished, season canceled 😉
    GO PHINS!!!

  76. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Ken & Jahn

    you don;t need to file first to change forums

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1404

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      I know you don’t but to my understanding that was the basis as to how they got the NFLPA’s case out of Minnesota because there was a prior pending action and they consolidated the actions in NY.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I think its a straight forward forum change
        ther eis really no conenction to MN for deflategate

  77. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Al, I agree, the OL was a pressing need as well as the secondary, the loss of Odrick & Starks needed to be addressed, the TE spot needed to be filled after losing Clay in FA, &, depth @ RB was needed….only so much can be done in 1 offseason.

    You could tell the FO was banking on McPain & Tripp stepping up too. The they added a lil insurance as best they could.

  78. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    From an Article on NFL.com:

    On Wednesday, the NFLPA filed suit in Minnesota alleging that Brady’s punishment was not fair and consistent. It also claims that the appeal hearing “defied any concept of fundamental fairness” and that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell was partial in his decision to uphold the suspension.

    The players association filed the suit in Minnesota where they had won previous litigation against the NFL.

    On Tuesday, the NFL preemptively filed a claim in Manhattan, asking the court to uphold its decision on Brady’s suspension. The proactive strike worked.

    Kyle cited the “first-filed rule” as the reason for his decision.

    “Indeed, the Court sees little reason for this action to have been commenced in Minnesota at all,” Kyle wrote. “Brady plays for a team in Massachusetts; the Union is headquartered in Washington, D.C.; the NFL is headquartered in New York; the arbitration proceedings took place in New York; and the award was issued in New York.

  79. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    NY, Minnesota, NY, Minnesota, blah blah blah.

    I’ll just wait till it’s finally over before I debate it, and then it will be minimal as to whether the courts, NFL, or NFLPA got it wrong or right.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      In its filing Friday night, the NFL indirectly reminded Judge Berman that his interest in the facts could be misplaced. Most notably, the league asserted that Goodell’s factual conclusions about Brady “may not be disturbed” under federal law. The NFL stressed that an arbitrator’s factual findings are accorded “extreme deference” under the law, meaning that Judge Berman should only explore questions about evidence with the highest form of reverence for Goodell’s fact-finding. The league even went so far to cite the U.S. Supreme Court case MLBPA v. Steve Garvey to conclude that federal judges can’t vacate arbitration awards “despite allegations that the [award] rests on factual errors.” In other words, from the NFL’s perspective, whatever concerns Judge Berman may have about the lack of direct evidence linking Brady to a ball deflation scheme should not be grounds for the judge to overrule Goodell.

      ************

      you see, this is the NFL’s most powerful defense
      essentially whether you think Brady did it or not, you can;t disturb the decision reached pursuant to the CBA’s terms

      Why is there a difference in AP’s case (Judge Doty heard) b/c in AP’s case, he was punished twice

      but what the NFl is saying is you can;t look at our investigation and say – why did you conclude this about Brady? B/c you have to give deference to the fact finding done pursuant to what the CBA permits

      This is the long standing rule when some one challenges an arbitration award
      What happened with AP last year is the exception, not the rule

      I do not think the NFL would have filed a case with the Fed Court – bc they basically waive the right to challenge the court’s ability to review the fact finding by doing that

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        But they did. Even the Judge in Minnesota cited the first filed rule in his decision to transfer it to NY.

  80. drg's avatar drg says:

    Great job, Mike. When I hear Coryell offense I think of a more vertical game and I haven’t seen much of that from this offense. Kind of reminds me of Mike Leach Air Raid offense in that we operate out of shotgun a lot and try to use the entire field with shorter timing routes, screens, slants, and posts near the sideline. I would love to see us utilize the middle of the field a bit more than we did last year. There is also a lot of pre snap motion trying to get good matchups.

    Appreciate the work you guys put into the site. It’s great to have football back!

  81. D's avatar D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    August 20, 2015 at 10:56 am
    LOL, I knew someone would jump on this. You do know Aikens started in the Bears PS game and there were no issues. Everyone gets beat in practice.
    —————————————–
    Just like with the OL issue, play off the concerns of the fans, its better for them if the fans are worried about the team than feel somewhat secure. Again, its not so much to me that we shouldnt have some concerns, but Aikens has been rotating in with the 1’s already, he has had positive things said about him most of OTA’s and TC, and just now when Delmas goes down do you start hauling forward the negative like its the only thing he is done? Gimem a break Omar you shit wit.

  82. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Almost that time…Go Phins! beat them Falcons!

  83. D's avatar D says:

    The Coryell reference is a pencil neck’s way of attaching terms that he thinks legitimizes his knowledge of football. Oh Ryan’s deep ball looks good, we are throwing more in practice….oh well just stands to reason we are changing our offene style completely just to make use of one aspect …lol really?

    Simple fact is we want to add a few deper routes into the bag to make the offense less predictable and to catch them sleeping on occasion. It makes it a richer and more diverse playbook that other teams will have to spend extra time preparing for.

    Isnt it more likely we are just practicing it more for those reasons than changing our entire scheme, one that the QB is just settling into because of one small aspect of the game? Again, doesnt really know football from a player/coaching perspective, he just knows it from a hypotetical “learnd this in school” perspective.

  84. drg's avatar drg says:

    This whole deflategate thing is so tired. It’s devolved into lawyers arguing over what the definition of “is” is. Bottom line is Brady and the patsies will use any advantage they think they can get away with as long as they gain a perceived edge. No matter the outcome of this, that’s their legacy. The sooner they go away the better, but it would be much sweeter if we rise up and take if from them this year.

  85. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    This is what I think about Deflategate.

  86. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    It is no secret that Peyton Manning is insanely competitive, so it should not come as a surprise how he reacted when conversations with ex-Patriots players led him to believe that the Patriots’ visitors’ locker room was bugged.
    In short, Manning assumed it was true and went out of his way to make sure the Patriots couldn’t hear anything important he had to discuss with his coaching staff.

    Peter King first strongly hinted at the story in 2010 as something of a rumor in a column leading up to a matchup between Manning’s Indianapolis Colts and the Patriots at Gillette Stadium (via Yahoo Sports):

    “I’ve always heard, reliably, that the Colts never trusted that they were totally alone in the Colts’ locker room in Foxboro, and that when Manning had something of strategic significance to say to offensive coordinator Tom Moore, they both stepped outside into the concourse outside the locker room.”

    Oh? Was this just Manning being paranoid and overreacting to Spygate, which happened in 2007 when the Patriots were caught videotaping an opposing team’s signals during a game?

    Well, Manning’s coach in Indianapolis, Tony Dungy, was a guest on “The Dan Patrick Show” and confirmed this report and says there was a little more to it than that.

    Dungy was asked if Manning did step out into the hallway to discuss strategy with his coach because he thought the locker room was bugged.

    “That is very true,” Dungy said with a chuckle. “As Peyton talked to guys who played for the Patriots and some of the guys who came over [to the Colts], whether it is true or not, he treated it as true and we didn’t have a lot of strategy discussed inside the locker room [at Gillette Stadium].”

    This doesn’t necessarily mean that the locker room was bugged or even that the players told Manning it was bugged. It could simply be a case where Manning grilled ex-Patriots players on what they knew about the Colts and Manning was suspicious about how they knew so much.

    But at the same time, in light of Spygate, the Deflategate saga, and mysterious happenings such as accusations of opposing team’s communications going down at critical points in games at Gillette Stadium, this certainly raises some eyebrows.

    Or maybe Peyton is just paranoid.

  87. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Ken

    I just read your first file rule post
    and I can see that

    still doesn’t make legal sense to me
    maybe they filed an improper case in an attempt to have the fourm changed…seems a little shady to me. Appearantly its still the NFLPA’s case though, the article says they had to refile in NY

    I don;t get it at all
    If you file a case in Fed Court asking for the Court to confirm your findings
    How are you going to then tell the Court – but you really can;t review this?
    I think that is idiotic and short sighted by the NFL if its true

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      I agree with your legal theory about the deference given to an arbitrator’s decision should be the key issue but I am guessing the league was so fed up with the venue that NFLPA has used it did a preemptive filing. Whether or not that was a good move remains to be seen. I am out. Peace.

  88. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Alright, off to meet a client and starting trial tomorrow so who knows when I am on next. Peace to you all.

  89. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Okay
    I will stop talking about deflategate and legal bs

    Who wants to talk about darts – raise your trotters

  90. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    drg, good to see ya and read your post that got lost among all the NY > MN MN NY posts.
    Good stuff on Air Coryell & Mike LEach’s Air Raid offenses., Thanks.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Yeah I agree
      Good post
      and good point about the vertical game by DRG

      I’m just relaying what Clayton called it
      I think some one else said, you can probably call anything an Air Coryell offense

      maybe that is what Clayton was doing
      I guess he could have called it a Chip Kelly offense and we all would have puked

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        You do know Lazor was part the Chip Kelley offense during his time there. We see some influences of it here.

  91. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Quite a story there about Peyton Manning hearing from former NE players about Gillette stadium visitor locker room bugged, and Dungy as well as Peter King confirming the suspicions.

  92. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    What would be ironic is Brady gets the suspension lifted and then gets hurt and misses the season.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      That is what I am hoping for
      But I would like it to be Suh or Wake who do the hurting

      then we get to hear all the patriots fans tell us that Tom Brady is not really injured b/c the science doesn;t support it

  93. drg's avatar drg says:

    D, I didn’t read the quote so I’m not sure what Clayton was getting at. I agree that it’s pointless to try to categorize any offense these days with one word. Every coach borrows concepts and puts together his own system. I really like what Lazor does and thought we were one of the better offenses last year even with less than perfect parts. The new WR corps excites me. Big plays and RZ production is the big concern. The TD drive in the Chicago game was impressive, but it was still something like a 14 play drive. Those are hard to sustain on a consistent basis.

  94. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
    RT @1104mann come from the guy who wanted Winston over ryan ….it shows how much you know…..SCRUB > BLOCKED

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