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The joint practices between the Dolphins and Panthers wrap up tonight with preseason game 2 in Charlotte. After warnings about fighting with the opposing teams, only one minor skirmish was reported during the joint practice sessions. Not so bad. Each team lost a player for the season with an ACL injury. Delmas for the Dolphins and WR Kelvin Benjamin for the Panthers. Not so good. There were also reports the Panthers coaching staff asked the Dolphins to dial back their pass rush because the Panthers were overwhelmed OR alternatively both teams agreed to dial it back for a 2 minute drill. Whatever you need to tell yourself. Either way, it will all be settled with the game tonight.
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Finsmob Unleashed 
jamar taylor down. shit
thank god. not serious
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly now
Jamar Taylor has a quad injury and his questionable to return.
This is all practice from both sides. It’s obvious. It’s not a real game. Williams was also out of bounds before he fumbled. But it’s PS.
‘Williams was also out of bounds before he fumbled.’
only if you were watching it with homer glasses on
Boring game, teams are both working on specific things and that’s cool but it’s really not a game.
I know Matt Moore is a gamer, but he’s sucked in both games so far.
Yeah he seems like does this work? Oops no it doesn’t.
tim
i agree it isnt a game, but you can still tell things you can still tell the o line is going to be a problem this year if nothing changes.
First team Oline is fine.
tim and also, didnt like two weeks in a row the first team offense drives within the 5 and has to go for it on 4th to score.
That’s two FG’s if it were the regular season.
They don’t want to show what they’re going to do in the regular season on the goal line.
Steve,
Moore has looked horrible in Lazor’s offense in the last two seasons.
steveccnv says:
August 22, 2015 at 8:54 pm
First team Oline is fine.
yeah, but too bad they play for dallas.
Brian in NY says:
August 22, 2015 at 8:54 pm
That’s two FG’s if it were the regular season.
exactly. and that was a problem last year.
steveccnv says:
August 22, 2015 at 8:55 pm
They don’t want to show what they’re going to do in the regular season on the goal line.
and what the other teams d was showing them everything. that is just an excuse. bottom line is they didnt score and it would be fgs in the regular season
hazel nice. sweet play.
nice job moore. great drive.
turner’s block made this play. He nudged the dt enough for tanny to make this throw. very nice.
That was a great job by Turner in recognizing where the rush was coming from and getting enough of a nudge to let Tannehill get the ball off. He looks like he is learning the speed of the game.
the deep pass by tanny was right on. Cameron has to catch that.
So another strong showing by Tannehill tonight. I am starting to get optimistic about the season. If Tannehill takes the next step this team could be in for some good times.
Omar was on NFL radio this morning singing Tannehill’s praises. Talking about how he practices as efficiently as Chad Pennington used to.
Howard David on NFL Radio predicted the Dolphins will be 6-0 when they play the Pats for the first time this year.
His co-host Tim Brown thought Howard David was smoking something.
Alright sturgis
Happy birthday to Mike E.
This is the best 0-2 we’ve been in the preseason maybe ever.
We beat their asses in practice, then tore ’em up in the game. We’ve got a pretty good team brewing 😛
Is everyone hungover from Mike E’s birthday party?
I dont know about that;
After 2 games our sucky guys must rank worst in the league against all the other sucky guys…
Lord help us if we have to start plugging them guys in for any length of time
I’ve thought a bit about that- if our entire second line had to face another’s 1st line, we’d be in a shitload of trouble-but wouldn’t all teams? If we lose one guy on the line for a period of time and have to plug in his backup, we might see a bit of a drop off, but we’d still be formidable. How often does a team’s entire unit go down?
If Alberts isn’t ready I think Fox will be adequate, and we have 3 OGs Thomas/Turner/Douglas, so if one of those 3 has an issue we can still function near the same level, and Brenner seems to be able to hold down C. If we need all 3 of these backups to start I still think we’ll be ok, that’s what ZB and quick passes allows and RT seems to have solved his accuracy and pocket presence issues.
Our ones look great. The twos did okay but if we get down to threes and fours we will really suck
Thankfully we won’t have 3s and 4s come regular season. We haven’t given up a TD until late in both games, so the guys that are going to be on the team are playing great on D. The backup Oline has made things difficult for Moore, Colonblowesque.
True. But depth is an issue for us. I think it is why we were not in the playoffs last year. Injuries on OL and secondary cost us late in the year. I think our ones are really good. It’s the depth behind them I worry about.
We weren’t in the playoffs last yr, because RTs stones hadn’t dropped yet 😉
LOL.
With the starters in last night I noticed the Panthers receivers dropping a lot of passes, seemed like last yr with us, when RT had accuracy issues. Cam has RT 2014 accuracy 😉
A top 5/10 QB, given what the passes rules are today, can mask a lot of other issues on the team. If RT plays this yr like he has practiced and played in the first 2 preseason games, then I see him in this category.
The pass play to Miller last night was an I can anything you can do better type of play. A pass rusher got some pressure, RT avoided him, Miller had a defender ready to make an open field tackle, he put a move on him that should’ve broken his ankles.
Every time I click on this page it goes to the pic of Dion Jordan and it just pisses me off even more.
Dion who?
Time to change the wallpaper
Lol Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 1h1 hour ago
Your quarterbacks stones have FINALLY dropped. Congrats Patience Brigade.
As opposed to what just ditching a top 10 QB draftee when he has shown improvement after every season.
As opposed to having him still in the stage of trying to become a franchise QB. RT has arrived we are now SB contenders.
We signed him just in time, if they were still negotiating the price would already be up to $20 mil per yr.
Exactly
Gotta run. Peace.
Of the three passes he missed, Tannehill guided or telegraphed them all too much. Or you could say he just tried to force the ball in to the WR by sheer velocity. I think he still sometimes is too obedient to the playcall or coaching. Like on the throw to Landry slanting in for the TD that did not get caught. It was like Tannehill said ok they want us to make this thing to Landry work, so here it goes no matter that the DB sees it and saw it on tape from last week.
Other than that the kid was damn near perfect.
Good thing for us then, that he doesn’t have to be perfect.
PS: I think they are hiding some stuff they will do in the RZ and saving it for the real games. (All teams do that.) For example throws to Cameron. I think Cameron has been grossly underutilized on purpose, Jennings too. Not to mention that Stills and Parker have yet to be employed for real.
WOW
I am glad that Dion Sims missed that block that got Tannehill stripped in the preseason. I think they will look at the angle he has to take to pick off the DE and fix that.
Sometimes you don’t have an answer on a given play, guys do what they can and line up for the next play.
Oh and Lamar Miller is pretty close to RTs level, his have also dropped, he needs to be resigned ASAP.
Ken says:
Our ones look great. The twos did okay but if we get down to threes and fours we will really suck
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Might be our scrubs suck cause at most positions the word is out that the Phins are not a place where a UDFA or low level FA can make the roster. For instance, why would a DL, WR or CB looking to be part of a 53 come here?
” Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 1h1 hour ago
Your quarterbacks stones have FINALLY dropped. Congrats Patience Brigade.”
Twitterella once again displays the ignorance of the “trained eye” as he attempts to equate the misguided belief in the clearly over matched and perpetually struggling Henne to the steady progress and improvement shown by Tannehill.
He’ll tell you he was always on his bandwagon, he just didn’t want to praise him too soon.
I forgot about Reshad Jones, forget about our MLB making plays in the backfield, it’s his house. He was all over the field last night. I see All-Pro in his near future, but I hope he doesn’t play in the PB for a while 😉
I agree totally with both of these thoughts. It was Reshad not LBs who benefited from Suh eating up blockers, which worked out just fine last night. He has very quick feet and is decisive when he hunts down the RB behind the line. And he wraps up and his man hits the turf every time.
I almost got in an accident while listening to QAM yesterday when Omar said, “Tannehill has gotten better and better each year…..that’s what the great ones do.”
And that was before the game.
What you like to read the day after the game in your opponent’s paper: “the Panthers’ first-team units were putrid Saturday.”
Who said we should trade for Cam Newton? 🙂
Remember they where checking Fox for Concussion but I would say the O-Line did quite well for whoever was is at any one time.
I’m more concerned about the whole team of Defensive backups.
I am liking me some Vigil, That dude plays like a seasoned veteran.
A little bit different but another Zach Thomas in the offing…
GO PHINS!!!
Howie — Vigil looks awesome, but every year there is a 7-11. Given what we have at LB though, a good unit for a guy like that to find a spot.
I think Vigil will probably make the team
A WR can shine in the preseason, because he may not be accountable for, but then he fades when a first team CB mans up on him. With Vigil you can see he has the instincts necessary to play ILB and that will translate to the regular season. I think he’s already made the 53.
I saw Suh on the sideline looking pissed off like he wanted to play longer and hit more people. He did not get any stats and I think that is bothering him and his steam is building up so when we release him to play more, he is gonna blow up some team’s whole first quarter.
Suh’s stats are the team Ds stats while he’s playing. We had a couple of 3 and outs, that’s better than him getting 3 sacks on a drive where they take the ball from their 20 to our 20 and kick a FG.
Still, our first D has been in for six drives (more or less). 3 3 and outs, an INT, and a goal line stand where they repelled four straight plays from inside the five. (Even stonewalling the great Cam Newton). That’s awesome.
Was Suh in in that goalline stand
I thought he was out after the a taylor int
I thought he was the one who chased Newton out of the pocket on 4th down.
It’s funny to see Omar use the term “patience brigade”
I’m pretty sure Bat made that one up
It was like old times, the PB…
Miller hS been really good in the first 2 preseason games
I’m glad he doesn’t have a whole lot of touches
I want to see him start game 1 fresh
His receiving skills have come to fruition. He’s looked great inside running too.
When Miller and OV were drafted the UM coach said we got 2 first round talents, he was correct.
Yep!
Piggy … Correct .. “Patience Brigade” and the HDS (Originally the HHS) are mine. Twitterella has been using them from time to time ever since we abandoned him.
Say what you want about Omar, but he puts out info like no other reporting on the Fins. His opinion lacks logic at most of the time, but he’s a good follow.
I like following him
But sometimes it seems he is last to the story
He is definately persistent though
For intel sure. For assessments not so much. 😉
I guess he misses you Bat…lol
Vindication!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And a strange curiosity as too how Omar knows this? 😯
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 2h2 hours ago
Your quarterbacks stones have FINALLY dropped. Congrats Patience Brigade.
Like Stanger he wizzed next to him 😉
LOL — not me…….can tell you all about Brandon’s stones though. 🙂
I was talking about the fest with Ken.
I’ll call that both nice and bitter…..interesting combo.
Now we wait for Omar’s balls to drop.
From Hyde 5
Uh, about that replay challenge. From the 3-yard line, Damien Williams went over right end and stretched for the pylon. He was ruled short of the end zone as he went out of bounds. Philbin challenged. On replay, it was seen Williams actually lost control of the ball before the pylon. So instead of the Dolphins keeping the ball a few inches from the end zone, the replay challenge backfired to give Carolina the ball on a touchback. Yes, sure, it’s preseason and it doesn’t matter. But if the coaches are judging players … it’s not the kind of play that inspires confidence and, if it had been a real game, would have got Joe Philbin skewered (and who in the press box counseled him). “Great decision,” Philbin said, deadpan, to CBS-4 at halftime.
Doesn’t anyone know what the rule is? I don’t think the ref that looked at the replay did either. If you touch the pylon before going out of bounds, then yes of course it’s a td, but the instance you touch the pylon isn’t the instance when the ball crosses the goal line. I think the ball crossed the goal line before he fumbled, because he lost the ball on his downward decent to the pylon. Tards showing the replay wouldn’t show the goal line angle.
Just learned where I’ll draft in one of my FF Leagues and took my first look at the rankings……different world this year. Only six QBs are ranked 82nd or below. That means they are suggesting that half the guys in a 12-team league won’t be selecting a thrower till 7th round or later.
Maybe QBs in fantasy are going the way of RBs on the actual field……..tandems.
I read a good article on FF, it said to take the top 2 or 3 guys at a position before taking the 4th – 12th best at another position. The logic was that the 2nd tier guys weren’t that far apart. In the first take an RB, if you have picks 1-6, if not take a top guy at another position like a Gronk. Obviously the first round is different on a pt per reception league.
I agree with that completely. My position to do that with had always been RB, but that didn’t work out so well. Maybe it was just bad luck (curse you Zac Stacy…..had him in two leagues), but maybe it is a passing league now. Thinking about doing the same with wideouts this year.
Steve … Unless it was a third or fourth down play, it’s an idiotic challenge. You don’t risk a TO with at least two more chances to score from the two inch line and a 14-0 lead. No logic or common sense there just coaches anxious to prove how clever they are.
It’s preseason, so I wouldn’t put too much into it. In the regular season I think they’ll be more careful, at least I hope they will after what happened last night.
Tanny’s passer rating so far in the preseason is 126.9.
It’s c his balls dropped
It was a pretty dumb decision to challenge that play
We were at the inch line
Why not just watch your goalline offense for another play or 2
I guess Philbin was trying to get Williams another TD or soemthing
I think the touchback was a little bit unpredictable
But you have to be aware that refs can review anything on the review
So the been for of getting that TD right there isn’t that great
I trust Beasley and Abramson most of all.
It’s PS, coaches can take chances too. These are practice games nothing more.
Like we could have tied the game with an Xpt but we went for 2. We would have done things differently in a RS game.
Great goal line stand on their inssuing drive though. except we let them get 79yds before it
On that drive I was watching the D line just going through the motions, they looked tired.
Tim … I realize that your reflex instinct is to defend everything and anything this staff does, but you’re way off on this one. As Piggy said, why not give your goal line offense a couple more reps to pound it in? What was to be gained by the coaches inserting themselves there? That was a stupid challenge and would have been a stupid challenge in the regular season. Were the coaches trying to hone their ability to make stupid challenges? It is not at all the same as going for two instead of tying the game. That has a purpose of giving young guys experience in a pressure situation. The challenge was self indulgent idiocy on the part of a couple of coaches. Had it succeeded, it would have been no less stupid …IMO
I am pretty sure I saw an assistant coach demanding that Philbin throw the red flag. He was very doubtful, but the guy had a headset on, and I think the call was coming down from the coaches upstairs to challenge. I don’t think Philbin wanted to do it, but afterwards he took the blame instead of throwing his guys under the bus, which is a great thing to do and ultimately it was his decision anyway, but he did get bad advice.
I thought Suh was the one who chased Newton out of the pocket on 4th down.
I was actually not aware that the refs could come up with a third version of the play call upon review. I am not actually sure that they CAN do that. It seems unfair to me. They made their call and the challenge is that the call was “backwards” so they should have to say either yes it was backwards and reverse it or no it was correct and let it stand. I don’t think they should get a “do-over” anymore than a QB gets to have his INT back if his OG got a flag for holding. The INT stands and the D just declines the penalty.
To me, both Offense and Defense are perfect after 2 games (They can’t be responsible for plays made while they are on the bench.) The O has scored 4 TDs in 4 drives (if Philbin doesn’t challenge) and the D has let in ZERO TDs: 3 3 and outs, 1 INT, & a goal line stand against 4 downs.
We didn’t score last night on the opening drive, so 4 TDs in 5 drives, but I’m right there with you.
And to take it a step further on D, we haven’t given up a TD before mid 3rd qtr in either game.
Bat, I really don’t get concerned about PS football. It’s just getting game ready. The coaches will evaluate what they did and say yay or nay for next time.
It all goes back to it doesn’t count, but it matters.
Fair enough. I still don’t care. LOL
yikes you are right I forgot about that opening drive. My mistake.
Tim Knight says:
August 23, 2015 at 2:25 pm
Fair enough. I still don’t care. LOL
based on that then nothing good is happening either.
LOL, the RS is all that matters.
Jordy Nelson probably tore Acl Mri to follow
Whoa! That’s a big loss. Hope he’s okay. He makes the game great.
My main concern so far is also the Long drives resulting in 4th down TDs. I like they are converting so far ,but yes what does that tanslate to in RS
Wont get to see game until at least tomorrow. NFLN replay at some ungodly hour tonight
Someone has hijacked Omar’s Twitter!
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“@Finsfan2334: would you say tannehill is practicing at Garrard’s level?”» he’s past that. He’s at Chad Pennington’s level this year
Imagine having a Chad Pennington clone with an arm 😉
I saw Franks kickoff last night for the first time. Every kickoff was out of the endzone. Anyone know if that’s his norm? If so he needs to be our kicker this yr. I can live with an occasional miss, if he kills it on kickoffs.
Cam’s mechanics are horrible, throwing off his back foot far too often. Maybe he thinks, because he has a cannon he can get away with it. I think it leads to being inaccurate, as we saw last night. No one cares how cool he looks throwing off the back foot with a flick of his wrist when he gets picked off.
Tim Knight says:
August 23, 2015 at 3:38 pm
LOL, the RS is all that matters.
lol, i so doubt the Kelvin Benjamin thinks that.
Well not much he can do about that.
manitobafinfan says:
August 23, 2015 at 3:14 pm
My main concern so far is also the Long drives resulting in 4th down TDs.
toba,
i was saying that last night also. and like tim, i get it is just preseason and nothing matters but unlike tim i also see that was a big problem last year and that it is a concern still
Hopefully our stellar D gives us shorter fields to wirk with more this season
Wow. Jordy nelson out with torn ACL. I feel bad for the packers. ouch.
Yeah their depth at WR not looking too deep now
Matty I @TheMattyI 4m4 minutes ago
One guy seemingly overlooked last night was Will Davis. He was bad. Boykin consistently beat him.
I also thought Will Davis looked bad last night. Got beat several times. Almost had one pick, but was often too far away from his man to prevent the catch.
I thought Ced Thompson looked good with a lot of pop to his hits and he stopped several plays that looked like big gainers if he does not make the tackle.
I also think that new guy Philip Thomas is a big hard hitter. I think we have plenty of good young DBs and figuring out who can be trusted out there not to give up a TD will decide about cutting to 9 or 10.
Any updates on Jamar Taylor’s quad?
Least some tweeters are saying he says not so bad. Probably get more info on Monday……unless that’s a day off.
Thanks man.
Andrew Abramson ✔ @AbramsonPBP
#Dolphins surprisingly release WR Michael Preston http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2015/08/23/dolphins-release-wr-michael-preston/ …
Michael Preston ✔ @BigMiiKE19
Released from the Miami Dolphins today. DONT ask me how or why lol. Great Organization, Great Staff top to bo
Michael Preston ✔ @BigMiiKE19
Released from the Miami Dolphins today. DONT ask me how or why lol. Great Organization, Great Staff top to bottom. Thanks for the Opp! 🐬👆
I bet matt hazel sticks then. I think this was a favor to preston. Maybe the panthers pick him up.
Watch Preston get snatched up by Panthers or Packers now, or dare I say it…the Pa*****
this sucks big for the steelers.
Maurkice Pouncey believed to need surgery for broken ankle
Yikes, he tore an ACL last year too didn’t he? Suddenly he’s damaged goods.
Landry, Stills, Jennings, Matthews and Parker. Maybe Byrd jumped Preston.
I think we’ll only keep 5.
That opens up quite a bit for the 53. I felt 6 all along due to the fact that our base offense is a 3 WR set. Need at least two others to keep everyone fresh.
Preston wasn’t going to make the 53 so…it happens
Woot! Back in business! Haven’t been able to post for a week!
If Jason Fox can’t pass thru the concussion protocol, then we got a decision to make quickly before the 3rd PS game. We don’t need to get Tanny killed.
Waiving Preston sets up some kind of move, and it isn’t gonna be Mathis now.
Could Jake Long be back as a Phin until Albert is ready to go???
Then when he is, Big Jake could stay on as depth….his body would love him for it….lol
Long is done
tim,
hazel had a very nice night last night. He made the case to stick IMO.
He’s 6th at best.
I think it’s time to get the Mathis while he’s still available. Our backups are awful so give the young guys some more time to get it right. No one will be here next year if that OL doesn’t get fixed right.
I think we need to worry more about LT
Why? Concussion shouldn’t last more than a game. Albert is coming back soon and is one of our most expensive players. Why get another one?
‘Could Jake Long be back as a Phin until Albert is ready to go???’
is this just wishful thinking or has anyone read any thing like this.
Just me thinking outside the box….we’re thin @ OT, and I saw where Fox may be dealing with a concussion. Albert is not a guarantee to start week 1.
Mike E, nice birthday weekend with a Mets 3 game sweep of the Rockies, first time ever in Colorado. 5 games up! 😉
We’re also in the WC race with the West LA and SF.
Mutts putting in a good year finally…Congrats…Also Congrats & Happy BDay to Mike E!
getter,
if he is healthy, i think it would be a good idea, especially as a back up
tim,
yeah you and mike e might as well start the celebration. the mets have it wrapped up.
Jake Long is not wishful thinking to me. Guy is a walking injury. Fox has a 1 week concussion protocol? So…we don’t play him for a week and just keep getting ready for Albert. I can’t see Long being the answer since he never really was the answer.
Sam Baker might be available too….
But is Fox misses next week’s game, the dress rehearsal game, then you got to think Tanny shouldn’t play more than a series. He could get hurt behind that weakening left side.
Yeah, the Tanny i’ve seen is ready for the season. I’m not a big fan of playing just to play. If they seriously have to play Tanny then just do extra protection. Jake Long has never been cheap and has always valued himself too much. If Fox is injured more than a regular concussion protocol allows, then get someone but tanny is pretty ready to me.
New Age says:
August 23, 2015 at 7:10 pm
Jake Long is not wishful thinking to me. Guy is a walking injury.
thats why i said if he is healthy. oh yeah and a back up. i wasnt asking for him to replace albert. who btw hasnt played a full season in how long?????
I think we keep 6 wrs.
Ryan Tannehill and Cam Newton both received sizable contract extensions in the offseason. The Miami Dolphins gave Tannehill a $96 million contract, and the Carolina Panthers gave Newton $103 million.
But Tannehill clearly outshined Newton in a head-to-head meeting in Saturday’s preseason game. Tannehill was 12-of-15 for 102 yards and a touchdown in a loss to the Panthers to get Miami’s game ball. Newton was 4-of-10 passing for 42 yards and an interception.
Tannehill is turning the best training camp of his career into the best preseason of his career. He is completing an astounding 81 percent of his passes through two preseason games. Tannehill also has three touchdown drives and two touchdown passes in three quarters.
To think I actually argued with SOmeoNe about who the better quarterback was earlier this year. SOmeoNe actually going so far as to say that it would be a good trade……..I guess it is only preseason, but….
tanny has to get his team to the playoffs this year. He has to.
Tanny is ready, but his weapons need to keep playing to get ready with him, catch up to him so to speak, or catch up to the Lazor system.
The biggest thing that stuck out to me watching last night was seeing Tanny in complete command of this team now. He was directing guys, getting loud, and executing.
He’s arrived on the NFL scene as a top QB now….and with Suh on the other side of the ball, there should be no reason we miss the playoffs.
Actually I’m looking at a division TITLE if most of our top starters stay healthy.
Go Phins!
I’m not eating the cheese this year. LOL When things have such a strong appearance of improvement that even the most die hard HDS member is taking tiny sips of the Koolaid and commenting on the flavor, I am hesitant. To steal from OD, SHOW ME. (please please please)
He will show show show ya…hell he already has!!!
To make the playoffs the rest of the team needed to be better….we are now seeing that with another good offseason of moves in year 2 of Hickey, year 2 of Lazor, etc etc.