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DOLPHINS-BILLS
GDP 27-17 MIA
N/A 27-17 BUF
GO PHINS!!!
wow
Can’t figure these guys out, the more it changes the more it stays the same.
Offense looked like Sherman was still upstairs
And two weeks after we got the best Christmas present ever
Joe broke Suh
I still can’t believe we lost to the Jaguars. Somebody’s getting kicked out of class today.
I bet I was the only one who had us down for a loss yesterday on that season standings page.
Got us for a loss this week too and I cant even think of a miracle score to change that.
you were. good job. I mocked you when I first saw your picks. Sorry about that. You knew the crap this team was.
Bills 35-Dolphins 10
Dolphins 20
Bills 17
Keeping to my oath of giving a real pick over a heart pick, I have to go:
24-13 B utt U gly F uckers
Piggy,
I understand where you are coming from and do agree about Tannehill on several issues. He makes decisions and mistakes he really shouldn’t. He’s had around 4-5 wide open WRs that he completely missed just so far.He also knows that the deep ball is a weakness and seems to avoid those passes a lot which narrows the amount of field he has to work with. No reason Stills is doing short slants,etc all the time.
At the same time, Tannehill has been stunted by a piss poor coaching staff. He’s has a horrible OL his entire time here. Sure, some is on him but the OL still sucks. This FO does not fix GLARING problems. They just let Philbin sweep it under the rug. He was thrown to the fire early and has had two different OCs with completely different philosophies(except the fear of the running game). We’ve not had a good running game since Sparano. Throw in their inability to motivate or fix mistakes and I’m just happy he’s still here. No other QB outside of Manning, Brees, and Rodgers is expected to stay in shotgun his entire career and those guys are better at it. He’s like the perfectly placed bulls-eye every play and they KNOW we aren’t going to run the ball.
We can blame(some rightly) the players for not getting things done. Or we can blame a coaching staff that somehow makes Suh awful, Wallace awful, Stills awful, and has three 1st rounders on the OL. An overall group of minds that thought two TEs were enough for this season.
We need new and fresh but at least Tannehill is trying to carry this team all by himself. The coaches expect it at this point too.
Where is the play-action passing?
The only time we consistently win is when OD posts an article.
THANK YOU, sb7mvp.
Lol- I guess we each see victory from our own perspective, though I suppose each has merit.
THE CAPTAIN OF THE SHIP is ultimately responsible for the success/failure of the mission.
THUS, the #1 villain in this scenario is none other than Steve Ross. If ANYONE DESERVES TO BE TERMINATED, IT IS ROSS!!
#1) ROSS DECIDED to keep the “3 Stooges” on board when he bought the franchise. As a group, Parcells, Sparano and Ireland dragged this franchise down to depths NOT SEEN since the first 4 years of this franchise, the George Wilson years (1966-1969).
#2) ROSS DECIDED to hire a GM who alienated the State Legislature. To say the state’s Republican leadership is laughing at Ross would be an understatement. But the season ticket base is NOT LAUGHING!!
#3) ROSS DECIDED to hire Philbin and even EXTENDED PHILBIN’S CONTRACT after Philbin PROVED to me he’s NOT the man for the job!!
#4) ROSS DECIDED to bring in proven failure (in New York) TANNENBAUM!! It was Tannenbaum’s idea to NOT take an O-Lineman in round 2 this year and it was T-Baum’s idea to heap vast sums of money on the non-productive SUH!! Thanks to T-Baum, Miami is up against the salary cap wall and will be UNABLE to greatly re-shape this team for at least TWO YEARS!!–SO what you see is what you get for TWO MORE YEARS, DOLFANS!!
#5) ROSS DECIDED to piss-off vast numbers of season ticket holders by bypassing long term supporters (like ME and my BOYZ) and instead selling tickets in preferred locations to relative new comers!! I’m sure the newbies will reward ROSS’s judgment BY STAYING AWAY IN VAST NUMBERS AS THE SEASON GOES ON!!!
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OBVIOUSLY, FIRING ROSS IS NOT AN OPTION.–But Ross selling the team IS AN OPTION, AN OPTION I’M GOING TO PUSH AGAIN,AND AGAIN,AND AGAIN!! Perhaps father time will grant my wish and simply do away with Ross. But, until then, we are screwed!! –And changing head coaches likely won’t change this!!
Time to start posting favorite bridges to jump off of… 😦
Golden Gate, huh? Well, I suppose it would get the job done.
Trade Moore to Dallas for an OT!!!!!!
You know, I was thinking this very thing this morning, around 5:30 or so.. would Dallas give us Collins for Moore and perhaps something else, like a 6th?
I wouldn’t!
But you never know what Jones will do?
No way. They got him on a super cheap contract. No way they make that deak
I suspect you’re right, though I don’t know it’s not worth investigating some type of trade.
Hate to know I was right about Albert. He isn’t going to make it the season. Think they really really should move Turner to LT
or drafted oline in 1st rount nstead of a WR that’s never on the field.
No comment here other than I feel just as crappy as the rest of you. Don’t see any answers presenting themselves this year either. Hope I’m wrong.
You can add all the expensive players. When leadership stays the same you’ll get the same crap.
Philbin is and has been the problem. Until he goes be ready for average, lose one win one seasons.
Our offense stalled yesterday because of oline penalties and shitty play after albert went down. If Albert is not healthy this year it’ll be a very long year. We didn’t draft oline in 1st or 2nd round last year and we’re paying for it now.
F U philbin. F U lazor and F U benton. go to hell all of you.
oh yea and F U Coyle.
howie,
27-10 bills
I think the Dolphins get back on track against BUF, and finally, we see of the dominance on defense we thought we should have seen. Only because it doesn’t make sense.
MIA 17 – BUF 6
drinking early this am? I wish I could join you 🙂
It’s just the way things happen in the NFL. Just when you think everything is broken, and the team you’re facing should crush you, this happens.
Wow this is not good news. He’s already rogue
“However, in the early going Suh has been lackadaisical on defense, and during the loss to the Jaguars, was ignoring coaches’ play calls, according to The Miami Herald’s Adam H. Beasley”
Translation, he was trying to make something happen. I agree with him personally, the D scheme has been very bland so far. Coyle should have been fired this last season.
his boss that kept him should have been fired last season.
I just wrote something and I forgot that I have to post once and be told to sign in when I already am signed in so I lost it. Not worth re-writing it. The team doesn’t look very good to me. 😦
Look the truth is last game we just didnt play well. There really isnt one area to say “this part sucked” because a lot of it sucked.
Offensive calls by Lazor sucked, we went away from calls that were consistently working, to ones that consistently weren’t. He also called a very pedictable game. Many times the entire defense flowed as well to the ball as out offense did.
Miller sucked, he danced more than he ran, part can be blames on poor play calls, part on OL and the rest was just purely bad descision making while he had the ball.
OL had some bad penalties, cost us drives, and no Ken the one by Thomas isnt the king of all of them, our notmally very good RT was the worst of the bunch there. We also got no push from these guys
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Defensive play calls, especially continuing to opt out of blitzing, sucked. No pressure on the QB, no big plays. Very bad discipline issues, especially Vernon’s boneheaded game costing 15 yard shove.
Secondary play was really bad, specifically Aikens and McCain had bad games. Grimes was beat pretty consistently as well.
As for good, its hard to find much but i think our LB’ers, as a unit, were decent. They still had plays where they didn’t read and react aggressively but it was much better. Jones had a pretty nice game. Jenkins made some nice plays. Obviously Landry was our biggest highlight, but i also liked what i saw with Cameron. There was one play were they really congratulated Tanny for one of his completed passes to Matthews, was a tight window and they were right it was a good throw, but on that same play if you looked just to the left of Matthews, you could see Cameron streaking down the seam, completely un-defended with what would have been an EASY TD pass.
Having said all this i still stand behind my statement yesterday. Two games in should not be the point of throwing up the hand and making statements like we cant afford to cut him, or Bazooka Joe is a pussy and this is all his fault, or lets just lose the rest and get a good pick for the next coach.
I mean i understand it pissed everyone off, im part of everyone, i cussed and had a fucking shit fit yesterday lol, but Washington isnt as bad as advertised and i think Jacksonville also doesnt get credit for being better than a lot, especially here, dont give them credit for. Washington just beat the shit out of the Rams, who just recently put up 30 points on Seattle’s defense. Jags defense held Carolia to 20, Carolina who just put up 24 on the Texans and their highly touted DL.
What im saying is, yes we played bad but be more concerned with us cleaning up our act than that we are a complete failure as a team. We did tackle better this game, but we could still clean some of that up. We need to get more agressive on defense and we need to push the tempo of our offense, and overall we HAVE to clean up these penalties. This shit has been the biggest killer of us of all.
We’ll see what the pats do to Jax this week.
We’re average if we’re lucky. It was a mistake to keep philbin last year. Now we all have to suffer a whole year with many games like this to pay for that mistake.
We are going to have to bring our A game, be agressive and play fast to beat the Bills. Last weeks game against them showed what works and what doesnt. New England when they were up-tempo were shredding that defense. Yes, its Brady, but their running game was working too. Bills dont play nearly as well when they dont get a chance to get set fully and start mixing up the D. On defense we need to bring the at least one extra on every play. We can cover their playmakers on the outside and the middle if we at least make them make their decisions fast. We can be better on D than NE was, we just have to dial up more pressure than we have been. Its a winnable game, but we gotta play perfectly.
The problem I’ve seen so far is I see too many players being beat physically by opponents. I question how talented we really are. maybe it’s a slow start I don’t know, but I’m not seeing what I thought I would from a lot of guys.
its never the coaching or the scheme with you always the talent.
This team is talented enough to win.
I say we mix Cameron in on more playcalls as the primary target. He was fucking open a lot, a lot of times when Tanny didnt look to him because he went back to primary and made that throw. We need to make him primary on more.
He’s a great weapon. Been dreaming of us having a TE like him since Keller gave a glimpse of what a seam threat can do in this O.
I don’t like this from Beasley. Suh was supposed to be the non-diva.
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” Suh, who for the second straight week was a nonfactor, strayed from Kevin Coyle’s script. The Miami Herald has learned that Suh freelanced at times Sunday, creating confusion on the defense.”
Stanger,
I’m calling BS on Beasley.
Players on EVERY team free lance on occassion to make plays.
To start this “Suh” nonsense is pure media story fabrication of creating something that MEANS DICK.
The Fins lost as a team.
The irony is that Vernon’s personal foul was the killer on the final drive and not Suh.
I GUARANTEE media types out there (Florio, Heath Evans, etc) were all hoping it was Suh so the narrative could have been juicier for them to shit on the Dolphins.
dolphins by themselves do their best to have the pundits shit on them. they don’t need any help.
Tim i dont think its talent i think its more coaching and discipline of the players.
Coaching scheme seems weak to me. We seem to be playing a containment kind of scheme. LB’ers are playing back and not attacking the gaps. This is very off to be as consistent as it is with us, especially the Washington game, and it not be by design. Washington was a power running team and they treated them more like a speed team. They had LB’er schemed to keep them from cutting back more than attacking. I dont know if they felt the DL was going to handle that part, but thats not really smart against a team with two really powerful backs. Matt Jones gets a full head of steam playing contain you MAY hit him after he is 3 yards deep across the LOS but then he has the momentum and power to push for another 4. Morris too.
This game they were more agressive with the LB’ers and it worked better. This next game against the Bills will probably be a containment scheme or some sort of hybrid, but should work a lot better that way than it did against the Skins. May see a lot of safety support from Jones int he middle with Sheppard being asked to play his gap agressive and Jones coming up to support.
Also i think part of coaching is using what ya got, so time to worry about the talent of our players has passed. That should have been addressed in PS, draft, etc. Time now is to scheme with your strengths and against your weekly opponent.
Only thing right now thats on the players is the discipline. That shit by Vernon, a couple of very costly holds by James, they killed us every time we started kinda getting things under control. Its sloppy and stupid and Vernon for one should get a lot of time on the pine to think about it.
maybe philbin needs to put his top hat back on and sing to the players again. It seemed to have worked.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly now1 minute ago
Ryan Tannehill has the 9th highest QB rating in the NFL (101.7). Coincidentally, Bills QB Tyrod Taylor is 8th (103.9).
And ratings don’t mean dick. that rating and $5 will get you a Venti Caramel Frappuccino @ Starbucks.
stangerx says:
September 21, 2015 at 11:40 am
I don’t like this from Beasley. Suh was supposed to be the non-diva.
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” Suh, who for the second straight week was a nonfactor, strayed from Kevin Coyle’s script. The Miami Herald has learned that Suh freelanced at times Sunday, creating confusion on the defense.”
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This is stirring the pot from Beasley. I think Suh probably went off assignment trying to make plays. He went off a script that wasnt working. I understand if coach called it that way, how that could be seen as dissention, but truthfully i dont see him being a diva. He isnt calling out Coyle to the media, he isnt making it sound like he had to take things into his own hands, and really since there is nothing from him and nothing from Coyle saying he did it, then im not even sure that judgement can be made either.
I wouldnt read too much into that media propaganda.
Odrick took revenge on philbin last week and richie will take revenge on him this week.
Why would Odrick take revenge on Philbin, he doesn’t decide who we pay?
I guess you don’t remember the altercation they had on the sidelines last year. I’m sure philbin didn’t want him on the team this year. He has more power than you think. If the coach doesn’t want a player on the team its hard to justify re-signing him.
D, I see players being beat physically whether blocking, trying to shed blocks or covering. That’s what I see. Like I said maybe they’re off to a slow start, but that’s what I see.
Al & D — but that came from Beasley not Omar. He’s not a gasoline on the fire type.
And Misi said : ““They just had a couple of big plays in the first half — a bunch of big plays, actually. Just guys out of position. Not fitting right. A couple of plays where guys weren’t where they’re supposed to be, so they gashed us.”
When asked why Misi said, “Just miscommunication. We’ve got to communicate better.”
Maybe he was talking about the DBs, or maybe he wasn’t.
Rhino says:
September 21, 2015 at 8:32 am
Time to start posting favorite bridges to jump off of… 😦
sorry, but the fins are so pathetic that they dont even warrant jumping off a bridge.
piggy,
i had to go back to what you said last night and i think you are wrong, it looks like you put more effort into todays article then the coaching staff did yesterday.
and by the way, best article ever. 🙂
(by the way, mike e, i said tomorrow or later, i saw your gayness comment. fucktards?????? really that was the best you could do)
Boulder, I’m not buying too much into a player getting back at his former coach. Our 18 penalties had more to do with us losing than anything Odrick did.
yesterday he played better than he ever played for us. He seemed very motivated.
He was pretty good, nothing special. He had better games for us.
Boulder, it’s always the coaching with you, never the players or talent. I’m just saying what I see. You’re like a broken record with the coaching. 😉
because I’m right 🙂
I think I might be too. I’m still waiting to see all this talent perform like it.
I think he is right though personally. I feel Philbin shouldnt be his focus, unless of course its allowed to continue, because this has been Coyle and Lzaor so far. Philbin needs to pullt he both aside this wek and say he wants to see more agressive playcalling and tempo out of both their groups. He needs to push them to playcall better or take that control from them.
That’s fine, he might be right. But I’m still waiting for the great plays from all our talent.
I do agree with whomever it was yesterday saying McCain doesn’t belong on the outside, because he looked great at nickle and really weak outside.
he belongs on the outside. outside of the stadium.
Id put Davis in at outside before i put McCain back there.
they were talking on tampa radio today about suh and freelancing. i dont know why anyone would be shocked if he was. either he is prima donna after his own stats or a fierce competitor where he see something not working and is going out on his own to fix it. either way it isnt good.
“I mean i understand it pissed everyone off, im part of everyone, i cussed and had a fucking shit fit yesterday lol, but Washington isnt as bad as advertised and i think Jacksonville also doesnt get credit for being better than a lot, especially here, dont give them credit for. Washington just beat the shit out of the Rams, who just recently put up 30 points on Seattle’s defense. Jags defense held Carolia to 20, Carolina who just put up 24 on the Texans and their highly touted DL. ”
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AGREE 100%.
Expectations on beating the Jags was based on the ‘past’ performance of Jags O.
Their D has been solid to very good going back to last year w/ their O being the deal breaker for them in the team success department.
This preseason, Bortles looked much better than his rookie year and sleeper talk was being discussed BUT that pick 6 in Week 1 on a pass to TJ Yeldon killed him. He also lost Allen Robinson to an ankle injury in that game for some time. Also, the passing charts that scouts i follow show that Bortles WR have dropped alot of catchable passes in both Week 1 & 2.
And when you go and look at the Week 1 performances, Cam Newton did worse against the Jags than Tannehill and Cam was at home.
The Panthers O only dropped 13pts on the Jags at home when you break it down comparatively to what Miami did on the road.
I think time will tell where the Jags O goes from here on out and the Fins.
As for Miami, they cannot be functional averaging only 17 carries a game. THAT is pathetic. I mean only someone like Tom Brady can get away with that because his ability as a passer is great. Even the Packers have rushed on average for 30 attempts per game through Week 1 and 2 and losing Lacey last night didn’t deter their play calling mix.
Stanger,
I never mentioned Kelly once. And Beasley isn’t immuned to sensationalism. I’m pretty much sticking to my opinion in that Beasley is a jerk off trying to stir the pot.
LOL
And I’ll stand by Beasley seems a straight up guy. Until he proves me wrong, if he says he heard this from somebody…..I’ll believe it wasn’t the guy sitting next to him at the bar after the game.
Not the end of the world if true, but not a good sign either.
I did see Suh line up way over to the right of the LG a few times leaving a huge gap on the line….I was like, Hmmm, ok, let’s see what happens here….Nothing, as it left the others behind him scrambling to figure out where they should go.
tim,
the only way we can be proven right or wrong is to see this talent with a different HC and that will happen next year.
Maybe, we’re 1-1.
It’s a long season. Fins are 1-1 at the moment which beats 0-2 Seattle, Philadelphia, Giants, etc LOL.
do you honestly think this team is better than 8-8? I mean would you bet money on that right now?
Yeah I agree but I really don’t like what I see from this team.
GDP,
I did see the Packers/Seattle game while still keeping the Fins loss in memory.
I think the Packers and Seattle both eclipsed any kind of pre-snap defensive alignment shift Miami has done in two weeks combined in just one half alone.
Jags aren’t slouches….they’ve been building a lot of top picks over the years by virtue of poor win loss seasons….but they have a young talented QB now who’s helping it along as he’s developing….same with the new HC of 2 years.
I guess we’ll know how good they are this week when they play the pats.
D,
I don’t think you read my full comment. I meant outside the stadium, like off the team 🙂
al,
you are right about expecting wins based on last years rep of teams. that is how most people look at it. but in reality that is the only way to look at it. so in the same breath, expecting the dolphins to be a playoff team is unrealistic based on last years team. expecting more of the same is what we should expect.
A guilty admission — my heart was rooting for the kick to make it going into half time.
My mind said don’t get it, but while it was in the air that heart just wanted to see the rook nail the long one. Guess my kicker love is color blind.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/miami-dolphins-114-million-free-135535324.html
Al, I saw that, but those defenses practice that….Phins coaching seems locked into rigid repetition. Is why they get out coached on most Sunday’s.
Look at what Belicheat does with lots of mediocre talent all over his team each year….or remember what Shula did with sub-par talent year in and out….the No Names 😉
I disagree about Suh. This guy knows what a good run defense looks like. He also knows what a top defense looks like. We really haven’;t had either with Coyle. Say what you will, Coyle hasn’t accomplished his job. If Suh is going off script, maybe you need to change it.
BoulderPhinfan says:
September 21, 2015 at 12:37 pm
D,
I don’t think you read my full comment. I meant outside the stadium, like off the team 🙂
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Lol no i picked up on that, i was just trying to offer constructive criticism to mask your mode of mass destruction lol.
Boulder,
Talent wise? Yes, this team is better than 8-8. I still feel they will win 10-11 games.
talent wise this team is for sure a playoff team IMO (Not Tim’s :-). But you don’t win on talent alone. Coaches have a little to do with it.
Our defensive pressure on Bortles was an utter joke…..when Coyle did try to blitz it didn’t work until he was down to his last nut….blitzing his best CB with Grimes, who actually finally made a play of the non existent pass rush……SMH
I’ll tell you what pisses me off, is Coyle’s usage of the blitz instead of trusting his front 4 more. Biggest SMH moment yesterday? Him blitzing the safety who was positioned at least 15 yards beyond the LOS pre-snap.
Suh is getting DTed most of the time so the other 10 guys aren’t getting it done. It’ s that simple. If they are leaving 6 guys back to block, you bring in more rushers. This defense has a weak LB group and the secondary sure isn’t going to stop any QBs if they can’t stop Bortles. Either you actually make a solid defensive game-plan…or you lose to the Jags. Carolina sacked this guy 5 times just a week ago. The problem is real.
Where are the sacks and pressure from the front 4 and where are all the TDs from our amazing skill players? We had the ball with a chance to win the game so many times and couldn’t do it. Where are the playmakers?
Poor play-calling. Packers ran 29 times against a top defense. Coyle uses poor schemes. We have talent but they need help.
Coyle doesn’t call run plays. 😉
See below….NO RUN, NO WIN in the NFL on ‘most’ days.
I agree this ROSTER has the talent to be a 11-12 win team and challenge for a championship.
But this TEAM sucks because of schemes & play calling.
Guys, until we can RUN the damn ball, and make defenses fear we can RUN the damn ball on them with some consistency….and until we can make better game plans to get EARLY leads & until we can make CORRECT in game ADJUSTMENTS to counter opponents……..
Until that CHANGES, then this team with it’s VERY TALENTED roster will continue to FLOUNDER in the pool of mediocrity around .500!
that won’t change this year under this coaching staff. Get used to it.
Hey guys. Why so glum?
LMAO at Piggy’s summary. I feel equally numb.
Saw two tweets that made me laugh yesterday.
I don’t have a lot of words about the loss.
I’ve read a lot about “who’s fault it is”, and the blame can be legitimately spread far and wide for me, but the biggest chronic disappointment is piss-poor execution on way too many fronts. Had we not swapped out a bunch of players many, many times each year, I would blame the incumbents. My real worry now is that it really does fall on the coaching staff. The last couple of years, I have obeyed Wanstache’s advice and avoided the cheese. I didn’t think we were ready. This year, however, I convinced myself we had the talent. So either I’m wrong, or the coaching isn’t up to the job and I’m starting to lean towards the latter school of thought now.
Also, a guy who I worked with is a Chief’s season ticket holder and he said Albert is a great player but will never stay healthy. Looks like we swapped one broken toy in Long for another.
It’s also very early in the season, but over 10% of it has gone and on that small sample, we’ve got a lot to fix!
Maybe I had more words than I thought
Re-post
LMAO at Piggy’s summary. I feel equally numb.
Saw two tweets that made me laugh yesterday.
I don’t have a lot of words about the loss.
I’ve read a lot about “who’s fault it is”, and the blame can be legitimately spread far and wide for me, but the biggest chronic disappointment is piss-poor execution on way too many fronts. Had we not swapped out a bunch of players many, many times each year, I would blame the incumbents. My real worry now is that it really does fall on the coaching staff. The last couple of years, I have obeyed Wanstache’s advice and avoided the cheese. I didn’t think we were ready. This year, however, I convinced myself we had the talent. So either I’m wrong, or the coaching isn’t up to the job and I’m starting to lean towards the latter school of thought now.
Also, a guy who I worked with is a Chief’s season ticket holder and he said Albert is a great player but will never stay healthy. Looks like we swapped one broken toy in Long for another.
It’s also very early in the season, but over 10% of it has gone and on that small sample, we’ve got a lot to fix!
Maybe I had more words than I thought
philbin just said he watched the tape and he never saw suh free lancing. I guess it was a mirage.
8 penalties in the 4th quarter yesterday SMH.
‘Look at what Belicheat does with lots of mediocre talent all over his team each year….or remember what Shula did with sub-par talent year in and out….the No Names ;)’
while i totally agree the problem with this team is coaching, you cant compare blowbin to belicheat. he cheats, so we have no idea what kind of coach he is on an level playing field. we do know blowbin is horrible.
LOL @ blowbin. I like that.
Afternoon Update
DOLPHINS-BILLS
GDP 27-17 MIA
N/A 27-17 BUF
Howie 35-10 BUF
Piggy 20-17 MIA
Try 24-13 BUF
Bold 27-10 BUF
MikeE 17-6 MIA
GO PHINS!!!
BoulderPhinfan says:
September 21, 2015 at 1:06 pm
philbin just said he watched the tape and he never saw suh free lancing. I guess it was a mirage.
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Gets to my point that Beasley is an asshole.
Can only imagine what your opinion of Omar is. 🙂
sb7mvp says:
September 21, 2015 at 1:02 pm
Hey guys. Why so glum?
who’s glum. yesterday was a good day. look at it this way, it was what is hopefully day 1 of the start of a new coaching era.
By the way, ESPN said this morning that if and when 3 penalties get enforced in tonight’s game (you know there will be more than 3 calls tonight), this Week will set an NFL record for most penalties enforced in NFL history for a given week.
It’s getting absurd. They kill the flow of a game and it’s becoming less entertaining to watch for me. Not just because the Phins had so many, any game you watch.
Who are the really talented players who make us an 11-12 win team and what have they done that makes you feel that way? I’m trying to figure out who they are. I thought going in that this team could be that too but I’m not seeing it. Blame coaching and playcalling all you want, really talented players make really talented plays. I’m still waiting on a lot of guys.
show me the talented players on the pats that’ll get them 12-14 wins they get every year. I bet this team would easily wins 11 games under belicheat.
One coach brings the best out of his players the other the worst.
That’s easy to say but still what players make this an 11-12 win team? Talent still wins, not just a coach saying presto. Who are the players that make you think this team is what you think they could be? Forget the coach bashing which is your favorite thing to do, answer this question instead of replying with the same coaching answer which we’re all aware of how you feel.
I said for this team to be good we’re going to have to rely on a lot of young players and right now I’m not seeing enough. None of them have ever proven anything so there is nothing to go by. So where does the 11-12 win belief come from?
I guess the question is, if you give this team to NE staff, or NO, or whomever, do you get the same outcomes? It’s all hypothetical, but still.
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/09/21/the-reason-behind-matthew-staffords-bad-start/
LOL.
Seems OL blame is trendy.
blowbin was particularly cheerful for a coach that just lost a game that his team was favored to win by 6 points. I never saw jimmy johnson, or shula being that cheerful after a loss.
I just can’t get frustrated that he doesn’t show any fire.
I mean when the flag came at the end of the 1st half; my brother and I saw the ball placement and immediately went “wtf? they threw the flag at the 42 not the 40”. I know the Fins couldn’t challenge but Philbin should have run on the field and gone ape on the refs.
er I mean i get frustrated.
that was the game right there.
Tim Knight says:
September 21, 2015 at 1:18 pm
Who are the really talented players who make us an 11-12 win team and what have they done that makes you feel that way?
they signed the biggest free agent on the market. pretty much everyone in the league thought of him as one of the best defensive player in the game if not the best. this coaching staff thru 2 games has made him the next john bosa.
i was never for signing the guy, but to say they dont have talent isnt correct. and keep in mind, i blame the whole organization for failing. not just a qb, or d linemen or head coach. i blame them all.
but you cant change every player, you can change the head coach and see if that works
Suh is one player. I didn’t say we don’t have talent, I’m questioning how much.
ffr,
I said the same thing last year when we lost to KC. Ross is too dumb or too cheap to make a change at HC. He’ll probably retain blowbin even if we go 6-10 this year. He’ll blame Ireland LOL
He’s not cheap.
Tim Knight says:
September 21, 2015 at 1:20 pm
It’s getting absurd.
yep, been saying that all weekend. and it isnt just in the pro’s. the college games are getting just as bad. it is like the refs are making themselves a part of the game.
boulder,
i know i was one who was calling for his head two years ago. i didnt want blowbin back last year. i have no doubt this year will be another failure. i am not even sure they can be 8-8.
Asked why he chose to play coverage against the Patriots rather than sending extra blitzers, Ryan put his high-priced defensive front in his sights.
“Yeah, we were going to put it on our front four,” said Ryan. “We thought we had an advantage there.”
Ryan can’t be blamed for presuming an advantage with his front four of Mario Williams, Kyle Williams, Jerry Hughes and Marcel Dareus against an interior Patriots offensive line of rookies – right guard Tre Jackson, center David Andrews, left guard Shaq Mason. I did all week long.
And the story of this game wasn’t about what Bills quarterback Tyrod Taylor could or couldn’t do for the Buffalo offense. It was about the fact Tom Brady was allowed to stand flat-footed in the pocket and gnaw on the Bills defense to the tune of 466 yards passing.
The onus was on the defense to keep this thing close. Rex would play coverage – as he used to with some success as head coach of the Jets – and he would watch his big-ticket items run over the Patriots young offensive linemen.
The reason he didn’t blitz?
“Well, no, I mean sometimes you blitz and things like that,” Ryan began. “But we thought we had…going in we thought we had decent match ups but obviously it never panned out that way.”
So, while Ryan takes a round of backslaps for being such a stand-up guy on Sunday, digest that. His front four of first-rounders couldn’t expose three rookies and Ryan flat said so.
Now, on to the three rookies. Holy crap.
“That,” said Patriots captain and special teams ace Matt Slater, “was impressive.”
The immediate beneficiary of the rookies’ work was Brady.
“They played great and they’ve been coming together since the spring,” said Brady. “It was a big challenge, certainly the crowd noise and the quality of the players we faced, I thought they were pretty great. They stepped up to the challenge and it was a great win.”
The crowd noise did have an impact early. A communication that Andrews wasn’t getting caused him to pause and ask Brady to repeat. The play clock ran down and a timeout was burned. Other than that, uneventful.
“It’s a Rex Ryan defense,” said right tackle Sebastian Vollmer. “It’s hard to prepare for it. Every time you play that scheme it’s hard to prepare for. You just follow your rules.”
What has impressed him about Jackson, Andrews and Mason?
“Professionals,” said Vollmer. “We can’t wait on anybody because it’s live football now but they’re true professionals.”
“They come in and they work their tails off,” said wide receiver Julian Edelman. “They’re doing their job. Ask coach on what they’re doing with their technique, because I don’t know that. I know that Brady’s getting the ball off and they’re doing their job.”
Andrews isn’t just a rookie. He’s an undrafted rookie from Georgia who, when last year’s starter Bryan Stork returns, may be headed to a backup role. His work in communicating and staying stout against Dareus and the rest was terrific.
“I never played an NFL road game in the regular season,” said Andrews. “And I never played the Bills so…but we put in a good week of preparation and we just tried to come in and execute our plan. (Preparation) has always been my thing. I was never one of those people doing last minute studying. I always put the work in and at the end of the day you have to be ready to play.”
The undrafted rookie and the guys next to him were ready. The Bills’ front, if you read Rex Ryan’s comments closely enough, were not.
Coching???? ….or just pure expertise & luck on drafting and signing top NFL talent over everyone else???
Same shit, different year. This team has no direction and no identity, but has talent on the field. Players play, but they don’t go out there and draw shit up in the sand and run it. There is a serious lack of leadership and talent at the coaching level…again. Jags are an NFL team, so sure they can win – any given Sunday, but watch…the Pats put up 40 on the vaunted Bills, what do you think they do to the Jags? This really sucks. Championship caliber teams brush teams like the Skins and Jags away like flies. This team just makes shit sandwiches and invites the flies to dinner. Howie: Bills 33 Phins 13.
We seem to always play up or down to our competition….that reflects the coaching….IMO.
Also, this team is too much on the finesse side, with cutsie plays hoping someone is out of position on the opposition, otherwise it won’t work….
Well time for the magic acts to stop & play some gritty mano a mano football and go BEAT somebody UP!!!
suh ignoring play calls from team-freelancing on his own
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/miami-dolphins-114-million-free-135535324.html
Been posted twice already.
Philbin said this isn’t true.
First time I saw it bc I haven;t been on until now
I hope this story goes nowhere and its not a big deal….we will see
pretty much says it all
http://cover32.com/dolphins/2015/09/21/will-joe-philbin-be-fired-before-the-2015-season-is-over/
That’s been the headline since last year.
We should have never let Dan Quinn gooooooo….He’s got Atlanta off to a nice 2-0 start.
We’re 1-1 and the firing talk has started. LOL
LOL, I know right….but there does seem to be a fatal flaw in the approach that sets the game plan & in game adjustments into place each week…..find that flaw, fix it, and we may have a chance.
For some of us, it has not ended since 2013, so…
Yeah but it’s still silly at 1-1.
I don’t know anymore. I have not had faith in this particular regime, since the way they handled the Sporano/Harbaugh fiasco.
Tim Knight says:
September 21, 2015 at 1:48 pm
We’re 1-1 and the firing talk has started. LOL
we’re 1-1 and the lets keep everything the same has started. LOL
(for the record tim, i have been calling for the firing before the start of last season)
Yeah that’s fine but this is some serious overreacting. I’ve said I’m not liking what I’m seeing either but I’m not to ready to start with that shit. LOL
The Flying Pig says:
September 21, 2015 at 1:47 pm
First time I saw it bc I haven;t been on until now
did you see what i said earlier? i think you are wrong about what you said last night……i think you put more effort into todays article then the coaching staff did with the game plan
Wont be no coaching change unless Philbin gets fired after we lose on Sunday.
Were going 9-4 the rest of the way starting with a W over the steJ.
but if we do get a new coach I want Gruden, He’s always been high on us…
I think he wants the job
Gruden…..LMAO, please…..unless there’s another one out there not named Jay or John.
Lol- be careful what you wish for…
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/06/03/qbs-in-focus-shotgun/
Interesting when you see how Rodgers/Brady of this world go under center twice as much as Ryan Tannehill. Just looking at this analysis from last year, RT scoring slightly more efficient under center than out of shotgun but its hard to tell if its just the lack of volume of under center snaps that are keeping his numbers higher.
Tim Knight says:
September 21, 2015 at 1:52 pm
Yeah that’s fine but this is some serious overreacting.
and doing nothing is some serious underreacting.
tim, any way of looking at it it all sucks. neither side is coming out a winner in this.
thru 2 games this team is a disappointment. i get the chance of changing now pretty much makes the year a failure, but i also think keeping things status quo pretty much makes the year a failure
I understand where you stand, but we’re past that and you don’t do it at 1-1.
If the offensive trend continues, Philbin may have to pull a Harbaugh and fire his OC in season and way faster than John did (waiting till right before the playoffs).
I guess we won’t go undefeated this yr. Anyone know how that Buffalo player that injured his neck and was taken to hospital doing.
“Bills safety Aaron Williams was taken off the field in an ambulance and taken to hospital for observation. Williams sustained a neck injury on an attempt to tackle Julian Edelman near the end zone during the third quarter. The Bills announced Sunday evening that the safety was released from the hospital.” — NFL.com
thanks. That was a all out effort of that guy . Glad he is OK
‘but if we do get a new coach I want Gruden, He’s always been high on us…
I think he wants the job’
that would be the end of it for me. if they get gruden i will pull for them to lose every game they play with him as head coach. the guy is nothing but an egotistical liar. i will be a jets fan before i will ever be a gruden fan
I like Gruden. 🙂
Im not a fan of Gruden either. He inherited a great team had early success with them riding on what Dungy had built and then set them on a path of destruction. No need to jump to this shit about new coaches yet. It might not take but a few more games playing this way to get there, but a lot of teams started weak this year, we were one of them, we like them, just need to get our shit together. Any projection of whether we do or dont is unfounded right now.
Al, I hate all the shotgun and I think it’s a poor approach to offense.
The fins might still be a .500 team, but this board is batting 1.000 when it comes to predictable responses. LOL…first loss, first “fire the coach” talk.
Tim, this team has talent. Something IS missing. I am not going to do a rundown on names because each name becomes a debate point, and I’m not interested in the debates. But it does have talent, and it has a lot of it.
I personally feel the Defense has severely disappointed me this year. Very few defenses in this league have the kind of talent and depth our DL has, and yet it hasn’t culminated in run stopping or very much QB harassment. I’m still waiting to see the hurry up offense we used to run New England out of the stadium last week too. Both coordinators game calls really frustrate me. But in the end I know that the HC is the guy who has to lead them.
I still like Philbin, pejoratives notwithstanding, but I’ll admit I could be wrong. That’s an admission very few here are ever willing to make.
Optimist obviousness: I’ve seen one whole mention of how good the Skins looked this week. We get no credit for beating them, yet look what they do in week 2. Could be this cakewalk early schedule wasn’t what any of us expected it to be. Time will tell. Season’s not a loss at 1-1 so I won’t be giving up on it just yet. Y’all know me. 🙂
Our grand opening crushed it this weekend. Way more business than any of us ever expected.
Congratulations, Jahn. That is great to hear.
Congrats on the gran opening Jahn
I never said we don’t have talent, but I’m not sure we have a lot or say much more than other teams. I see really good players make plays. This team still lacks big plays. Landry made a big play last week. That’s one. It was the same way last year. Every drive needs 10 plays because nobody breaks a big play. The defense isn’t wrecking the game in the backfield or picking off passes. It just isn’t there. Scheme, coaching maybe, but football isn’t that complicated.
Al, that PFF chart shows what I’ve been screaming about so long….Tanny needs more drop backs from under center….it keeps the defense on their heels a second not knowing if we’ll run or pass.
I feel like we’ve all been saying that
Its why everyone universally seems to hate running from shotgun
I have not seen anyone defend it yet
But I did notice last night, the Packers were effective running from the shotgun
I don;t watch a lot of other teams, but does anyone know, do the Packers run the majority of their plays fromt he shotgun….it seemed like that last night
FFRob
it all honesty it takes a lot of effort to post a pic of Colonpokey without being raped
So I probably did make more an effort
I was running away squealing while I posted it
Although there is a rumor that it was Philbin does when Suh enters the lockerroom too…lol
Howie,
I can’t fathom a loss to the Bills even as silly as the Fins have been playing.
MIAMI 31, Buffalo 13. Frustration will boil over against the Bills and they will be raped by a pod of angry Dolphins in front of the home crowd for the home opener.
lmao, such classy fans……….now smell your finger
http://deadspin.com/horny-bills-fans-have-no-concept-of-shame-nsfw-1665862333
the comments are worth the read as well
Tim Knight says:
September 21, 2015 at 2:04 pm
I understand where you stand, but we’re past that and you don’t do it at 1-1.
no, the nfl doesnt do it at 1-1. i would do it at 1-1. so take that 🙂
Jahndoh30 says:
September 21, 2015 at 2:04 pm
I like Gruden. 🙂
yeah, but you hippies from cali still like charles manson
Gruden is coo, he might be just what this team needs
Jahn,
I admit my patience is waining for Philbin and Lazor and its mostly lost with Coyle. I still put blame where blame is due, and Philbin cant snatch the reigns away in first couple of games, its not putting any faith in his coords. I do expect though to see something different this week from both offense and defense andif i dont that will be another step towards me blaming Philbin. I still support him as of now because i havent seen anything that points direcly to him, but letting that shit stay out of hand will put more direct responsibility on him.
Cant be no worse than what weve been going through forever now
Jahn, yes the Skins are better than portrayed, same with the Jags.
We can only hope Philbin abandons rigidity and starts mixing it up in the right direction….something that fires this team up…..perhaps the best thing to fire up this team is a nice Home Win against Mad Cow Rex.
BTW, congrats on the brew sales….love me some good craft brew.
Jahn,
Agree that perception is not reality. Cousins did the same thing to the Rams D which he did to Miami’s D (a Rams Dsupposingly is better than Miami’s by NFL pundits out there). Their RB duo destroyed that D as well. Both Jones and Morris both were able to rip off a run of 35+ yards.
You look at the arsholes blaming RT for the loss at Jags but comparitively, RT had a better game than Cam Newton did (Cam played at home; RT on road) vs the same team. Quite frankly, the Panthers O managed 13pts against the Jags D at home (the other score was a pick 6 from their D).
Oh and Grats on your opening Jahn, thats great to hear man. Much hope and prayer for your successful business venture.
Jahndoh30 says:
September 21, 2015 at 2:04 pm
The fins might still be a .500 team, but this board is batting 1.000 when it comes to predictable responses. LOL…first loss, first “fire the coach” talk.
yep, and batting 1.000 with the first loss and the ‘it isnt the coaches fault’ talk.
as i said to tim, it sucks no matter how one looks at it, so no need to say one side is right or wrong