By Dr. Bruce Banner
Rage!!!! Smash!!!! Slam!!!! Hulk no see Red. Hulk see green, miserable gang green. Hulk so angry he want to replace Jets toilet paper with sand paper. But Hulk should no be angry with miserable putrid Jets. Jets did nothing wrong except play football. Hulk angry with miserable putrid Dolphins. Miserable putrid Dolphins no show up in London, the same could be said about Washington, Jacksonville and Buffalo (well that was in Miami but you get point). Hulk angry that miserable putrid Dolphins have no anger like Hulk. Why should Hulk get angry when miserable putrid Dolphins show no anger? Show no emotion? Show they no care? Why should Hulk care? Hulk don’t know why but Hulk cares, Hulk cares so much it hurts! Why it no hurt for Suh? Why it no hurt for Tannehill? Why it no hurt for Misi? Why? Because miserable putrid Dolphins led by miserable putrid Joe Philbin who get more angry about a gum wrapper on the practice field than the piece of shit that Dolphins leave on playing field every week. Miserable putrid Dolphins take on personality of emotionless, stoic, rudderless and clueless head coach. Coach Joe may be nice guy but Hulk no care. Hulk want good football coach and now 4 years into Coach Joe era Hulk know we no have one.
Hulk angry that he has watch uninspired, flat football for the better part of the last 16 years but it has been especially flat in the Philbin years. Yes there was the Cam Cameron disaster but that only last one year. Yes Tony Sparano fist pumped the Dolphins through a period of mediocrity but at least he produced one of Hulk’s favorite seasons in 2008 when Dolphins were fun and exciting to watch with innovative wildcat offense. At least Sparano recognized after 2 games the need to change when things were wrong unlike coach Joe whose surgically inserted rod up his backside makes him unable to change even when everything go wrong. Sparano at least had fire and show emotion. Coach Joe so bad that Hulk longing for the innovative and exciting football mind of Tony Sparano. What has world come to?
Hulk angry that Dolphins become boring to watch. Hulk remember as young Hulkling watching Bob Griese throw deep to Paul Warfield and handing off to some guy named Zonk who run over everyone. Hulk remember how Dan Marino made every Sunday a must watch, how no matter how far behind Dan could and often did bring team back from impossible deficits. Hulk remember defense of Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas, Tim Bowens, Sam Madison and Patrick Surtain and how they could just stop an opposing offense cold. What Hulk got to watch now? Another failed 3rd and long conversion? Another 3rd and long conversion against our defense? A costly penalty at a crucial time? Hulk see this script too many times. Every team seen this script too many times. Every team know what we going to do. Every team no have respect for Phins and why should they when coach Joe just stand and stare from sideline looking like he is waiting for his constipation medicine to start working. The only problem is that it is coach Joe that needs to be flushed if this team and franchise is ever to become a winner again. Hulk done!
Coach Joe waiting for his constipation medicine to work:
Finsmob Unleashed 
First today. Yesterday I had some really good news.
Let me expand on this, 2 weeks ago in the Ask Mike I wrote when will the coaches get fired. He replied at the end of the season. I thought to myself yeah right and remained miserable. I stayed up and watched the London game live on TV (started at 12.05am), at the end I toddled of to bed muttering “these useless pricks have to go”. I wake up and read the news BJ was indeed gone, I haven’t stop smiling since. My wife asked me how long my smile would last? I replied I have just heard DC’s interview and if he sacks Coyle the boil tomorrow and replaces Lazor for play calling, it would be at least a month. She thinks I’m mad. On a side note I haven’t been around much because it is trade month for my aussie rules team, so I have been spending time on that site. BTW I think I told you earlier our coach had been murdered by his son and we will have a new coach by next week at the latest. The interim coach did not apply for the job as his family is too young and he is partners in a business. * Note to Jahn Do I get any money for the length of the post without using big words?
Guess that brings a whole new meaning to firing the head coach? Crazy!
Game wasn’t much fun was it Lee?
An abysmal first half with a mediocre second half ending in disappointment.
The two things that stood out to me most were Landry as our leading rusher and our inability to punch it in to bring us within a score on 8 attempts, most of which seemed to involve touch passes which Tanny notoriously struggles with. Still, at least getting that point meant the day ended up better than the Buffalo game which we were never in and seeing my team again is always awesome. If you hear any ear-piercing whistles on 3rd downs for the Jets, it was me!
I’ll risk putting a tweet in even though I know it will go into moderation. It wasn’t me, but summed up the feeling at the end, but it was necessary as part of the evolution process. Things HAD to change.
New interim coach – let’s see what happens.
* correction “getting to that point” above
Great write-up HULK.
i am happy they chose Dan Campbell. TEs are the only position group we have that is gettin after it and showing growth and development. Campbell made Stoney a 2 TD guy off the UDFA PS! He made a star out of 6th rnder Clay and developed Sims nicely. Cameron has been a bright spot.
Campbell was a tough guy in the NFL…only reason he survived 11 yrs … taught Witten how to be a pro. He will at least take no shit off anybody. He thinks our problems and our hope lie in the line play which he says needs to toughen up. Pretty obvious, but what we and they need to hear.
I cant believe Coach Blow was begging Ross not to fire Coyle. Wake up Blow? Coyle is the main reason you lost your Team then your Job. Your D was not playing for a man they despise…
Now if Campbell doesnt fire Coyle today he likely never will and will suffer the same fate as Blow at the end of the season…
saw interview today where campbell says he wants players to be intense in practices with possible fights.He says that will be good. I have to wonder if we have any broken jaws in practices.
Howie
0-2 Bye
Fins with 1st and goal fail to punch it in (again) and Denney with a rush of blood snaps the length of the field on the FG attempt and out of the end zone resulting in a safety.
#Sodolphins
Hulk – you got your wish – a new coach and possibly your twin separated at birth?
I think a new wind is about to blow through Miami and this suggest we hopefully won’t be settling for watching complacency week in week out.
https://twitter.com/Spoon_r13/status/651102369028145152
*suggests
And apparently:
(cut off) “And if you puss out, I’ll do even worse to ya.”
he’s showing a basic blocking technique but I like his intensity in showing it.
Sorry UK
were not playing right now. Not till we find out what happens with Coyle.
You think Bye could score more than 2 against Coyle’s D? 😉
Campbell pops “downstairs” to the fiery pit, introduces himself to Bat and says he plans to fix things.
https://twitter.com/Prime_Time_Pope/status/651105415581839360
dude looks like he could suit up.
fantasy betting scandal (insider trading)
UK the whole damn game sucked. Letting Ivory and Fitzpatrick of all people just left me feeling hollow inside.
beat us easy I meant to say.
I’m off to bed blokes see you later.
DC looks like a damn coach, love his jaw reminds me of Cowher, wonders if he sprays spittle when he yells.
good 2cu r back.
Coyle has not been let go yet until they know they have an adequate replacement. My bet is they are looking at some interim option from the outside. Once they have that Coyle is gone imo.
joe rose said same thing.
Hulk wrote piece on Sunday night when coach Joe still coach. Would have been better if Hulk piece ran on Monday but Hulk still angry at coach Joe anyway.
i hope he lands back on his feet he’s really a good guy from every person within the organization I’ve heard from in the last 24 hours . It’s really hard to uproot your family with kids in school and everything else but he understands how unappreciated a coach can be based on your last game if you won.
It’s going to be a tough haul to get back into contention this season, but to play respectable, tough football will at least make watching our team palatable.
I wish Joe the best. I didn’t like him as our coach, because I don’t think he can be the guy in charge. I think he’ll do well as an assistant somewhere. Maybe he somehow ends up back in GB.
Good job Hulk, you really do have a lot to be angry about, although now you should have some things to be happy about too.
Great job Hulk…..on point with how most feel.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article37911129.html
Excellent read by Armando and 100% true….what you get when a New Yorker and not a big NFL guy owns a team from Miami.
I know OD agrees 100% with that article too. Ross turned a great organization into a joke.
The Phins were turned into a joke long before Ross became owner. Huizenga took this team to the bowels of mediocrity.
You have to think that if Campbell were around in the 70’s he would be going out to the Everglades with Manny Fernandez to wrestle gators.
u no that story where he jumped into water to get 4 ft gator and zonk stayed in boat. We use to catch 3-5 fters. Use of airboats coming to end soon because of liberals saying airboats disrupt mother natures sound.
From 2002-2007, the Dolphins weren’t exactly a great franchise. They did manage to squeeze a 10-6 year in there, but then 4-12, 9-7, 6-10, and of course the dreaded 1-15. This all BEFORE Ross got here. Ross wnats to win, and will spend whatever he has to do so. I don’t think he’s the best owner in the NFL, but he’s far from the worst.
Armando is a fucking hypocrite. If Ross made football decisions on his own (Why would anyone want that anyway?), he would be ripping him for doing it. So he hired people to make the decisions for him (Mike T.) Of course, he probably doesn’t like him either, but he’d rather Ross make the decisions. Whatevs
ross is a knowledgeable person about football than most people who own sport franchises and columnist’s afterall he did play HS football in S.Florida. I believe he did play for miami beach hs team where graduated from. Barbara Walters also graduated from same school.
So you think he should be making the football decisions on his own, or is it OK tht he hired someone to do it for him? He obviously had no idea what the NFL etiquette was when he courted Harbaugh while Sparano was still the HC.
I’m just a fan but personally I think he is doing the right thing in getting knowledgeable people who are helping him. I heard once a smart business owner surrounds himself with experts so he doesn’t look stupid. He has hired shula, marino, and several others recently who have tons of NFL experience. Who am I to question the man I’m just a fan.
I wish Ross hadn’t created climate change. How am I supposed to know what to wear from one day to the next?
If he was from Florida, he would know how to deal with it better. It’s because he’s from NY dammit!
He was raised in S.Florida and went to UF where he transferred to UMichigan because he couldn’t keep his grades up.
Stinking Ross. All that money and still can’t pay fan support. This is what you get with an absentee owner.
This is why I have abandonment issues.
Maybe u can file a lost child support claim through our courts. LOL
Technically since a lot here depend on the success of the team to have a normal life, its possible maybe to work that angle. Potential for using it in domestic abuse cases too. Dolphins lose so i hit those i love excuse. I havent looked to see if there is a precedence for it. Maybe get Ross to pay for drug and alcohol therapy, maybe even to get a prescription for medical marijuana. He Jahn try that in your state i mean if you can get it for a stubbed toe then this sounds at least logical.
stubbed toe woo I broke my big toe beginning of August and it still hasn’t healed spent all of last week in hospital because of diabetes swelling of foot. 2 months now and they put cast on broken toes either. Dropped 10 lbs of frozen chicken on toe and didn’t feel it till 6 hours later. Thought I missed it hitting foot and said to myself I was lucky
don’t put cast on broken toes
jetssuck
He’s a New Yorker! Don’t give us that he was raised in FLA shit. He’s poison! lol
I once saw his wife she is i-iot
Yeah but you have to apply the blonde hair and tits offset to her IQ score, its mandantory. In her case it probably gets her up to at least average intelligence.
jetssuck
As fans, we question everything, it’s what we do. We think we have all the answers (myself included), especially when it appears as if the people who own the team and coach the team don’t seem to. We don’t want excuses, just winning teams. That’s how it works. 🙂
I don’t know about that MIke. I don’t let outcomes affect my happiness or dissatisfaction to wear one becomes unsocialable in everyday life. The game doesn’t affect me like when I played sports throughout my early years but then again I was taught sportmanship and respect was expected.
I don’t think anything I said implies anything of the sort.
I am not saying you…sorry if u thought I was
“Armando is a fucking hypocrite”
Couldn’t agree more. He thinks he is Lombardi. More like Liberace if you ask me!
So basically Mando says he is better than Ross cause he spends more time around the team (you got a $6 billion side job Mando?). And then he reams Ross for listening to the NFL pros he’s hired but not listening to Mando. My guess is if Ross had an office in Davie and tried to be Jerry Jones that Mando would say he’s too hands on as a non-football guy.
exactly
Awesome to see The angry green guy in all is Hulkness……only Q I have is why does Bruce Banner get the byline? Could he be the only one of the two who knows how to type? Hulk fingers ain’t smart-phone friendly. 🙂
If Ross made football decisions he would be Dan Snyder or Jerry Jones
Jerry Jones is more successful than Snyder
But frankly, he has ups and downs and those JJ days seem like a long time ago in Dallas – JJ was obviously guiding Jones
I don’t want football decisions from an owner
Hal Habib @gunnerhal
Tannehill spends 3 years getting sacked more than anyone, refuses to throw OL under bus, and we are to believe he’s mad at practice squad?
it seams we have reporters who are creating articles that will create a buzz and when they don’t get players (Suh) to give them inside info they create false stories. Seems like the players are dissatisfied with local reporters. Suh handled reporter with “next question” showing he can do without answering any questions that is going to create a controversy where none exists.
James Walker ✔ @JamesWalkerNFL
Josh McDaniels tops list of #Dolphins coaching candidates in 2016 http://es.pn/1VCVFg5 “-Here is my early list of five candidates.
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I’ve mentioned McDaniels before recently, but now that Campbell has 3/4 of the season, 12 games to prove himself….then I want him to stick!
Go Dan!
heard the owner saying he believes playoffs are still possible.
Of course playoffs are still possible…do the math.
Hope Dan & the players can get us there with a change of HEART!
One worry or somewhat a concern is that Tbaum has close ties to Eric Mangini who’s the DC in San Fran right now. He’s a 2 time HC….could 3rd time be the charm?
Go Dan Go!
The Mangenius?
jetssuck
No need to be sorry. I just wasn’t sure if that’s what you thought I was saying. I do get angry when we lose, but I’m able to let it go and enjoy life with my family.
Andrew Abramson ✔ @AbramsonPBP
Bill Lazor was OC of a UVA team that ran the ball heavily. If I’m Campbell I give him rest of season but only if more balanced play calling.
Still waiting to hear Coyle has been fired . . .
I think he goes but Lazor stays. Duffner or Anarumo both have extended experience and been here a few years so they can transition into DC without a lot of confusion.
Lazor, needs a stern talking to about balancing the run more and not abandoning it early when it seems to not be working. Also, can we get a snap from under center for Jahn’s sake!
LOL @ stern talking to. Maybe a spanking as well? 😉
Who could we replace him with this season 1/4 through. It would have to be someone from within to remain competitive for the remaining of season.New system can’t be implemented during season without mistakes because of learning. Playoffs are possible still. Our new DL coach is new this yr which leaves only the LB and secondary position coaches. If I’m Dan then I stay with Coyles since he will give him the best chance of turning this thing around.
If you feel it must be from within, it could be LB’s coach Mark Duffner
Where’s Bat? Has he made an appearance since Philbin has been fired?
He was here on game day, but don’t think since Philbin got fired. Probably crushed that Joe turned down the deal Bat offered him after the game and walked away from the Phins with his soul.
Thanks Jon – Just surprised he didn’t stop in after his favorite Bazooka Joe was “chewed out”.
It was pretty cool……woke up this morn to see a hawk on my balcony. My wife took pics for facebook. The thing saw us through the window but didn’t fly away. Just stared at us.
Well it was cool until I learned why he was so set on staying……..after he left had to clean up the remains of the little bird he had for breakfast.
Yeah big time New Yorker. LOL
Ross was raised in a Jewish family in Detroit and later graduated from Miami Beach Senior High School. He attended the University of Florida and then transferred to the University of Michigan Business School, where he earned his bachelor’s degree in accounting in 1962. He later received a Juris Doctor from the Wayne State School of Law in 1965 and an LL.M. degree in Taxation from the New York University School of Law in 1966.
His main business is in NY though. That’s what counts the most. Right now he has a huge project going on the West side. He’s developing like 26 acres called Hudson Yard in Manhattan……yeah Manhattan.
Yeah so, but he’s not a native New Yorker. Lots of successful people do business in little old Manhattan. 😉
He’s been there for almost 50 years and is one of the rulers of the place………tough club to join. 🙂
i guess he wasn’t raised in S.Florida.Maybe his parents were only here for a couple years.
Nice article
“I truly believe coaching in the NFL is more important than any other major professional sport and I’m not sure it’s even close.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2015/10/06/stop-blaming-ndamukong-suh-ryan-tannehill-for-dolphins-ills-heres-the-real-answer/
Not going to be happy if they keep Lazor, but ill understand the decision as a guy who is trying to prove he can lead the team relying on Lazor’s experience to help the adjustment. Also it wont matter at the end of the year i think, either way Lazor should be gone before next year. I can live with it but he deserves to be fired.
We’ll see what happens, but I can’t see them axing both coordinators and I at least think Coyle should be the first one down.
Lol….
“* Note to Jahn Do I get any money for the length of the post without using big words?”
No…remuneration is attained exclusively in conjunction with the implementation of idioms superseding pelagic proportionality.
Using small words means you have to pay me. 😛
LMAO
ukfinfan’s 6:33 post with picture of Campbell looks like PC principal from South Park.
I am going to say this. I would rather have seen both coordinators go than see Joe go and both stay. That said, now that Campbell is the interim coach, this team doesn’t have a prayer if they fire either coordinator, the plan to me is quite clear. The coordinators do all the game plan schemes and call all the gameday action. Campbell gets in peoples faces and does all that rah-rah stuff that so many of you have been yearning for since Joe came aboard. Lets see how it works out.
Me…I’m skeptical…but I acknowledge, what was here…wasn’t working.
I’m very concerned for the long term well being of our team. And yes, I do think there’s something going on in the FO that makes this job untenable to potential marquee candidates. There’s too much smoke for there not to be fire. Gannon made a very strong inference to such FO issues on NFL sirius yesterday, and it sounded like he knew something that he couldn’t share with the public.
As a PS, if only 1 coordinator left, like Stanger, I’d prefer it be Coyle.
For those who want Schwartz here, I say this: He’s not coming in to run the Defense for a zero experience dead man walking interim HC. He might have been an interim HC candidate himself, but think about it, he’s going to work for Campbell? No chance.
Ross is the Wizard from Oz ?
I don’t get it…
Andrew Abramson ✔ @AbramsonPBP
I don’t care how bad your OL is, there’s no excuse to be passing the ball nearly 74 percent of the time https://twitter.com/jmackalack/status/651418140031746048 …
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This actually what makes a not so good OL go from bad to worse. Get them to win some battles running the ball.
When your OL is struggling, you have to have help from several things. 1st is play calling. Make the defense guess on how they have to attack it. You open yourself up for succeful blitzes and pass rush techniques if you dont mix things up, specifically moveing the QB and the pocket around helps, and seems to work great when we do it.
You also have to have help from your QB, not stay like a statue or panic making shit go south faster. Feel the pocket, adjust in the pocket, see below for more.
Finally you have to have balance int he play calling like is being stated here, these all help OL’s look better than they are.
Im not all in on blaming either Suh or Tanny, they are facing criticism because they got paid this off season and fans expect players to lay off when they get paid, so they are jumping the gun making that assumption. I do think Suh has been more about how he is used, more so his lack of effort. Tannehill however, has deserved some of the ire thrown his way. I dont think its all on him, its play calling, play design some, and not being given a ton of time to get comfortable in the pocket. Lazor definately could have helped that and played around the shortcomings of the OL, as well as some of Ryan’s personal shortcomings.
Here is what i see with Ryan.
Ryan must improve his passing. He has regressed in this area from last year. You could see a marked difference between a downfield pass and a intermediate range one. Tanny threw beautiful crossing route passes, he had good quick outs, and curls, he hit players at the right time in the right place. This year he seems to be throwing more to the receiver than the spot. It could be he’s unfamiliar with them, doesnt have a good feel for where they will be and at why time, but it looks bad.
He also still does not seem to have touch passing down. He can throw bullets, but he has a low tragectory and unless he has a clean throwing lane he isnt getting it done. This is evident on his fades and screen passes which look horrible, and always has (ie nop progress there).
Of course there is always the elephant in the room which is his pocket presence and mobility when in the pocket. He has alsmot none. In the NFL a LT/RT is only going to be able to ride the DE’s out around the back of the pocket for so long and then they will be able to crash the pocket from the back. This is where he most commonly gets sack. He sits WAY back int he back of the pocket and either gets strip sacked by the DE or he waits until its too late to step up calmly and winds up panicking and starting to scramble. He has little to no option to scramble at this point to either side and then he scrambles forward running right into the waiting arms of the DT’s,
I understand how people feel the OL is failing him, and its true they dont give him a great pocket, but if he stepped up instead of running up, kept his feet under him instead of getting happy feet, he could help himself out of these situations a lot better. He needs to have a little timer that says step back1, run through my reads 2, throw or step forward 2.2, throw the ball 2.5. Its never going to get much better than about 2-3 seconds.Never. These DE’s and DT’s are too talented and even the best OL can only manage to keep them at bay for so long, and well we dont have the best OL either. Mobility doesn’t mean ability to run, Brady and Rodgers look pretty awkward running, Ryan is way more fluid, but its not about scrambling once the pocket starts to fail its about calmly adjusting your place in it.
He had almost a superhuman play to escape the pocket last week. I really don’t agree with that assesment at all. There is NO pocket for him to feel his way through, work in. Mobility within the pocket requires a pocket. I have never seen this OL pass protect worse than it has the first 4 games of this season, and that is saying something.
Tannehill is not faultless, none of them are, but I think nitpicking his faults this season is tripping over quarters to pick up dimes.
And i feel that your not recognizing the dimes are really quarters. They all have their faults, and no one is blameless but Tannys faults are there and they are just as big as the others.
You’re
It seems to me that nobody remembers what RT does to escape pressure on a regular basis. He gets chased by multiple defenders quite often and that means what? More than one guy didn’t block anyone. So RT should avoid it by doing this and that because everything he does is wrong. What am I missing when I watch the games that others are seeing? Do they not see the pressure I see.
Campbell called out the lines on both sides off the ball and more intense practice habits. He never discussed scheme. That’s because there is a lack of physicality going on with this team and we saw it in all 4 games.
agree to disagre D, no way in hell are Tanny’s faults as big as the faults of a DC that lines his CBs 10 yards off the LOS on 3rd and 5.
No way in hell his faults are bigger than the OL that has allowed him to be hit FAR more than any other QB in the history of the league over his first 4 years.
There is a basic truth that I can not see past: You MUST have a pocket to work in if anyone is going to evaluate your pocket presence, he has not…almost ever…had that in Miami.
I’m not going to speculate into 2016. I’ll go for the current ride with Dan Campbell and see what happens.
Wont do any good, scenery for the team will be much different then than now, and we have to just focus on what we got and getting through this season saving as much face as possible.
It won’t do any good?
HOME FOR LUNCH this week so I can get on this site for a couple of minutes.
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TOTALLY AGREE with Mando & Miss Gigi that STEVE ROSS IS THIS FRANCHISES’ #1 PROBLEM!! –And that’s true no matter WHERE he was raised or WHERE he now lives. HE’s a confirmed FOOTBALL DOOFUS!! —LOOK AT the people Ross has retained/hired/kept on the payroll way too long and TELL ME HE’s A SKILLED. INSIGHTFUL, OWNER!! –Sparano, Ireland, Mike Dee (now totally out of football), Metamucil Carl Peterson, Tannenbaum, Philbin, and the list goes on and on!! It’s one screw-up after another! And the proof is in the pudding—a football franchise that draws laughter in places like New England, Buffalo, and New York. To repeat what was said on PTI yesterday, “The Dolphins have NOT been relevant for almost a decade!” -IF you agree with what Bill Parcells said (“You are what your record says you are”), then this franchise is in DEEP DISARRAY because our record over the last 132 games is 56-76, a full 20 GAMES UNDER .500!!! Sorry, but those who think Ross is a great owner are DEAD WRONG in my book!!–And I won’t even get into how badly he’s treated long term season ticket holders.
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WHEN I was at the Bills-Dolphins game I leaned over the railing and yelled at Ross as he talked to Warren Buffett,”Hey, Steve, sell the team to Warren!” My words drew laughter from those around me. But much truth is said in jest. The Dolphins can NOT prosper until we have an owner who knows HOW TO HIRE THE “RIGHT” PEOPLE TO RUN THE FRANCHISE!!!—Hall-of-Famer Bill Polian could REALLY HELP ROSS IN THIS PROCESS. –Ross should call him and hire him as his top advisor and tell T-Baum and the rest of his “advisors” to hit the road.
The Irony is that Polian would NOT have fired Joe. LMAO….
Odds are against us but still plenty of time. I hope to be respectable and compete at the very least.
Stanger, many Floridians also have an issue with New Yorkers in general especially when they go down there to retire. Last time I checked, in America as a citizen you can live and work wherever you choose. I really don’t care where anyone is from, as if it matters.
Its cause you pollute our sceneray with your elderly lol
I’m not a New Yorker. 🙂
TIM; I’m NOT against ROSS b/c of his New York connections. I’m against him b/c of the poor selections he’s consistently made to run his franchise!! –SEE my comments above.
Gigi said that about him being from NY.
I don’t get the obsession with railing on the owner (and it is an obsession IMHO). I said myself just a few posts up that I DO think there is something wrong with our FO which scares away some candidates, but the owner is NEVER going to sell the team because of fan complaining, it’s just an endless fountain of wrath and anger that will never cease because the owner isn’t going to fire himself to pacify angry fans.
With all we have to be down about, why a few of you insist on seizing on the one area of the team that is the most unchangeable escapes me.
Fuck off FFR! I just spoke my mind, didn’t tell anyone what to think say or do. 😛
All you want from an owner is an open checkbook and the desire to keep trying to win. Ross does that. So boo hoo, it hasn’t happened yet. It’s not from a lack of trying.
I hear ya. There’s something else going on though, the irony of OD saying I don’t get it is that I have admitted there’s something wrong in the front office, I just don’t see the point in constantly berating the owner…what you say is true, he’s opened his checkbook and he does want to win.
SHAME ON US for criticizing Ross!! When you’re right, your criticisms may seem like an “obsession” to those who are wrong. As far as whether or not Ross sels the franchise, I could NOT predict that. BUT it doesn’t mean I can’t criticize his consistently poor decisions when I see them. The fact that “YOU DON’T GET IT” is perfectly obvious. –NOW I’m going back to work to earn a living.
Ok Grampa Mouthy. I don’t expect you to know that I worked 45 hours in 3 days last week at one point, but the work for a living statement kinda cracks me up. I’ve had time for all of about a dozen posts since this season started.
Good video interview.
http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/article-1/INSIDE-THE-NUMBERS-Dan-Campbell/e2fb0679-397e-467b-8abb-acc78f9389d2
Youngest HC in the NFL @ 39, even younger than when Shula took over the Phins @ 40.
Campbell will become our next Shula hopefully. 🙂
Careful on the Kool-Aid, my friend.
Jahn i respect that, we see it from different perspectives.
Cheers bud. That’s all it is. I respect you and your take as well.
Ross has hired 3 football people since being the owner. Joe Philbin 3+ years, Dennis Hickey 1+ years and Mike Tannenbaum less than a year. He inherited everyone one else when he became majority owner. Excuse him for trying to learn the football business before making extreme changes. He also went after Jim Harbaugh though he went about it the wrong way.
I am in an extreme minority, but I don’t really care much about the “form” he used in going after Harbaugh, I just wish he’d have let Tony go even when Harbaugh spurned his offer. It’s one thing if you’re going to fire him either way, it’s another to keep him after publicly embarassing him…and that COULD be the front office problems that Gannon and so many others in the media are talking about…
I said he went about it the wrong way. He has his guy in place now to run the football operations in Mr. T.
I guess I was just naturally conversing on the subject you addressed. No intention of arguing or counterpointing anything, just speaking my mind.
Funny…you guys post stuff from Armando and applaud him when he agrees with or it suits your ideas — now he is a hypocrite or just an idiot because of his truthful and honest piece about Ross?! Steve Ross lived here for a short while as a teen and went to school in Miami – the majority of his life he has been in NY and has been very successful there, more power to him. However, he has been woefully successful as an NFL owner, anyone who says he has been successful owning this team you are just delusional. It started with the whole Sparano/Harbaugh fiasco and has mushroomed since. He makes Huizenga look not so bad – who at least tried to get the best NFL people here. Where is Tony Sparano now? Jeff Ireland? Joe Philbin will NEVER be a HC in the NFL, just like Sparano will never be a HC and Ireland will NEVER be a GM in the league again.
woefully “unsuccessful”
He’s really only been at it 5 years and the team he took over was not good. You act like he’s run the team into the ground for over a decade. Not true, he inherited that.
I find Armando more reasonable than a lot fo SoFla blorters, bt im usually not in agreement with him either. I think in general he can take things to extreme, i think mostly because he seems to act as a fan a lot, where as people like Omar are more about self promotion, i do think Armando cares about the sports scene in Miami. He however does report like a fan a lot, and that can run hot and cold and often sways his opinion on matters. So yeah i think you are right, a lot of times he matches up with what fans think, and sometimes he doesnt and its ridiculed. He reminds me a lot of a few guys here on the blog, so reactions to him from this crew would be muck like our reactions to one another a lot of times.
Good take on him.
I guess we’ll see. I’m not as convinced as you, but I do know Pat Kirwan said yesterday Joe’s going to get a job in a heartbeat if he wants it. Joe has a tremendous amount of respect in this industry, including from Polian, OD’s hero in waiting. He just never got it going here (and I confess that I was wrong in believing he would) for whatever reason. Maybe he’s a Norv Turner type though and will always be a good OC, but not an HC.
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Yeah, I post stuff from various authors when I agree with them. I can also call them out when they write bullshit, which is what I did
He’s a hypocrite cause he both blasted Ross for listening to the people he hired in Davie who are there every day and not for listening to Mando. Seems Mando can’t have it both ways. Maybe others had something in mind, but that is what rang to me.
D says:
October 6, 2015 at 12:14 pm
Wont do any good, scenery for the team will be much different then than now, and we have to just focus on what we got and getting through this season saving as much face as possible.
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Tim Knight says:
October 6, 2015 at 12:20 pm
It won’t do any good?
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Wont do any good to speculate, i was in agreement with you.
Oh I thought you were saying that about going for the ride. LOL
Tim Knight says:
October 6, 2015 at 12:15 pm
Stanger, many Floridians also have an issue with New Yorkers in general especially when they go down there to retire
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I must be more hated than I realize then. 🙂
But truthfully…..I at least don’t see it.
I’ve heard that for years on the Dolphins blogs. The NY thing.
I just don’t see it day by day……but I’m known to be clueless.
D, how can Tanny step up in the pocket when the interior of the OL is as big or bigger issue than the OT’s?
As stated above, to be able to move well within a pocket first requires, ‘a pocket’.
Remember Tanny’s 1st year as a rookie. Everyone here and the experts in the press applauded how well he stood tall in the pocket, didn’t get rattles kept his eyes downfield and got his passes off.
Now it’s how bad Tanny is this and how bad Tanny is that.
As mentioned over the years, a QB gets too much praise when you win & too much blame when you lose, and how most all games are decided in the trenches…..where plays are allowed to be executed or plays are disrupted.
If Campbell can get this staff & players heads on straight, then I think we’ll see Tanny back to making the plays that we know he’s capable of.
Look at Luck, he didn’t play last week because he’s been getting his ass kicked with no protection. A bad OL can make a talented QB look bad. Saw it happen to Rodgers a few years back too.
No one is saying our OL is great but you are ignoring his failures. Put him behind GB’s line and he still fails. He isnt playign well this year. Period.
I wish we could do that D, because I think he’d be a probowler behind an even average OL.
He has a lot of times had room in the front of the pocket, either left or right of center, but alost always in dead middle of the pocket. Pouncey is keeping that lane open. He panics when the pressure comes from behind and he tucks the ball down, takes his eyes off the field and scrambles forward which is much further forward than just sliding a step up. Most the time one step up would have allowed the DE to crash behind him in the back of the pocket. Because he takes his eyes off the filed he has no way of making a throw now and scrambles right into a DT. Again, the pocket is going to collapse after a certain amount of time and we dont have a great pocket to start with, but he could do a lot more with what he has. I have seen it on several plays, including some of his sacks/strip sacks.
I’m skeptical. But what the hell, hope springs eternal. Maybe the coordinators have been handcuffed by Joe and all they need is someone to be an emotional leader while they call the scheme shots and gameday plays. It’s a longshot, but I’ll be watching the next game for sure.
Tim: You cannot run the team in Miami while you are wheeling and dealing on your business ventures in New York. I don’t care if he was from Siberia, his ass should be in South Florida – if the Dolphins were his #1 priority – I think the Dolphins clearly are not.
All the owners are more than just NFL owners, they run other businesses, i dont see how its any difference. He also pretty much makes top level decisions, he isnt involved in every transaction or maneuver.
He has people in place to run the football operations. We’re in the information age, it’s not like he has to wait for The Pony Express to get him intel on the team. LOL
He evidently has had all the wrong people making the football decisions.
We now have cell phones, Ipads, web cams, etc. 😉
I’m sure all the other 31 owners don’t just stay at home all the time….lol
No one says they are at home 24/7 in those cities – whatever man he can go stay in NY and make $$$ I do not care
That’s the funny thing Gigi, he’s NOT running the team, he OWNS it. He hired people to run it. If you’re saying like Armando did, that he should be making day to day decisions regarding the team himself, he’s not qualified to do that, so hired people he beileves that are.
Anyone here think Jerry Jones does not put the Dallas Cowboys first? The Mara family with the Giants? Rooney family with the Steelers? The dreaded Bob Kraft with the Pats? What these successful owners have in common is they are around their teams – they may have huge businesses elsewhere but their teams are everything to them. I do not see that w/Ross.
I think you’re barking up the wrong tree. You want Ross to be the GM like Jerry Jones?
I’ve seen Ross down on the field, in the locker room at practices quite a lot.
Maybe he should show his commitment to the team by letting them do laundry at his house?
He is sparingly here — not here a lot.
Tim, maybe Ross fired Philbin in the offseason and the rider just showed up to Davie after the Jets loss with the post.
LOL
LMAO..
Jahndoh30 says:
October 6, 2015 at 12:43 pm
I wish we could do that D, because I think he’d be a probowler behind an even average OL.
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Not this year man, and i REALLY thought thats is where he was going this year. Its not just the OL or pocket, his throws are off too. He looks completely out of whack. Im a fan of Tanny, have been , i always have puleld for him. Im saying this with as much constructive criticism i can muster, he looks bad and im hoping he can straighten it out some.
see below, I don’t think we’re all that far off, I just don’t honestly believe I can evaluate him fairly behind this absolutely pathetic excuse for an OL.
D,
BTW, in my defense of Tannehill, please realize, I see plenty of stuff to criticize with him. I’ll start with 3 shots at the endzone on Sunday during one drive and he didn’t put a single pass in a place where the target could touch the ball. I’ll also admit he gets super jacked up (as it appears to me) early in games and misses throws long consistently, and yes, it’s true, he still hasn’t shown that deep touch that we all thought he’d finally tuned in during the Preseason…
Gigi, Hickey has been here less than two years and Tannenbaum less than a year. He just started picking his own people.
I’ve seen Ross down on the field, in the locker room at practices quite a lot.
Maybe he should show his commitment to the team by letting them do laundry at his house?
Anyway, am not a Ross fan which you all have known for a long time, as I was not a fan of Parcells, the Trifecta, Sparano, Ireland, Philbin, etc. All are gone except for Ross. He ruined the logo with that freaking gay ass whale looking thing, turned the stadium into an aqua dome that mirrors the shitty Jaguars’ shithole but hey, he spends a lot of $$$ and tries right? Not good enough. Have a great day – I pray this team is prominent once again and not an embarrassment as they have been for the last 10++ years.
And that we can all agree on.
Its entirely possible new OC will help Tanny get things going, it also just as likely helps the OL, especially working with one spare wheel. I still think we want to fix this issue we have to scheme around both where Tanny is struggling and where the OL is struggling. So i guess thats my compromise on this argument lol.
Jimmy DynOmite Walker:
Miami began the year with plenty of optimism and playoff aspirations. However, the product on the field has been terrible.
To further that point, here are some ugly Dolphins stats to consider:
The Dolphins are allowing 160.5 rushing yards per game, which is dead last in the NFL.
Miami is being outscored 37-3 in first quarter this season.
Miami’s offensive line has allowed 10 quarterback sacks on Ryan Tannehill.
Tannehill’s completion percentage is just 56.7 this season. His completion percentage was nearly 10 percentage points higher (66.4) in 2014.
The Dolphins’ defense has just one sack.
Miami’s three losses have come against so-so quarterbacks Blake Bortles, Tyrod Taylor and Ryan Fitzpatrick. According to ESPN Stats and Information, their combined record entering Sunday was 38-68-1.
Also, according to ESPN Stats and Information, Miami has never made the playoffs or finished with a winning record after starting 1-3.
It doesn’t look good for Miami just four games into the season. New Dolphins interim head coach Dan Campbell has a lot to improve with this team, and it starts with changing the culture.
But there is plenty of football left to play and it will be interesting to see how the Dolphins react to this slow start.
The rushing D is the big killer for me. Sorta at least thought the rest could happen, even if I was hoping it would not.
Most all these bad stats point to bad LINE play on both sides of the ball.
Gigi (@Mrs2620) says:
October 6, 2015 at 12:43 pm
Anyone here think Jerry Jones does not put the Dallas Cowboys first? The Mara family with the Giants? Rooney family with the Steelers? The dreaded Bob Kraft with the Pats? What these successful owners have in common is they are around their teams – they may have huge businesses elsewhere but their teams are everything to them. I do not see that w/Ross.
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Gigi — Ross calls you and says he is thinking about selling all his real estate businesses, moving to South Florida full time, and solely concentrating on running the Dolphins as the owner in charge just like Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder.
He says it is all up to you. What is your answer?
(and no he won’t sell the team).
I’d tell him to go f-himself and sell to someone who has a clue how to hire the right people to have a winning team.
So then you want something that is not possible. Seems you can’t both complain that he is not involved and not want him involved at the same time. He might die, but he is not selling the team.
I merely point out his being in NY is part of the issue – he has NO clue how to hire the right folks to turn this organization around. We got worse this year not better, Tannenbaum and all.
We will never win with him as an owner
Lol..there ya have it.
LOL
Ross is boss and he dresses for less. Whats not to love?
The fins will look good…or your money back.
well shit, i was thinking maybe things were looking up with the fins but come here and find they will suck until they have an owner born and raised in miami that has no other interest but the dolphins……aka meaning never they will always suck
D,
BTW, in my defense of Tannehill, please realize, I see plenty of stuff to criticize with him. I’ll start with 3 shots at the endzone on Sunday during one drive and he didn’t put a single pass in a place where the target could touch the ball. I’ll also admit he gets super jacked up (as it appears to me) early in games and misses throws long consistently, and yes, it’s true, he still hasn’t shown that deep touch that we all thought he’d finally tuned in during the Preseason…
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Just jumping in your argument here if you don;t mind my squealing
I think all those things are fair criticisms – albeit I never really noticed early misses on his part,
But I think there is one more – pocket presence. And its probably his worst attribute
When you combine all these thing – it can be problematic to winning games
I think what bothers me is that most of these things probably come with experience
but he has had experience and it doesn’t seem like he is getting better
I’m beginning to think Tannehill was (barely past tense) being coddled by Philbin and the rest of the staff
That’s two votes on the pocket presence. My take is that there has been almost no pocket from which to evaluate his presence in…since he was drafted…but I don’t disagree with you guys’ X’s and O’s too often, so maybe I’m wrong…
I see the talent potential, but there are certain things that make me worry he wont get there. This year though is my first time i have been feeling that (outside the lack of progress in pocket presence which i feel is not progressing at all) so its possible that things will bounce back after this cluster-fuck of a year settles down.
Also if he reaches the potential i see, he will be every bit woth the money he is paid and the pick we used to get him…im just waning on my belief he makes it.
‘but the owner is NEVER going to sell the team because of fan complaining’
listen here you suffering shark bait beergod, i dont care when you tell others what to think as long as it is how i think. and your comment above is almost word for word what i said yesterday. complaining about the owner is useless.
Lol….fuck off couch warden!
say what you want about tanny but till ross sales the team it is useless
I don’t think Tannehill’s pocket presence is as bad as its made out to be. I do see him trying to hang in there longer than needed at times but I’m pretty sure that was drilled into his head from his time with Sherman.
Its not the hang in there longer thats the part thats actually to me part of the decline. You have to work with what ya got and he is haning in there too long and letting the back of the pocket collapse on him. He needs also badly to learn to side step blitzes, etc. Those blitz plays where he has been lit up, he had no blocker for the blitzer, he was completely responsible for side stepping those and he had the room to do it. with 100% certainty, Bacarri Rambo would have missed him and ran most the way to Ft. Lauderdale had he just make one step to the side.
Jahn, did you get a sense of what Gannon was referring to?
I can’t say unfortunately try, but I know him and Polian well based on listening to them on the radio for a couple years now. He seems like he knows something he can’t share, but he always directly references the Front office before he refuses to go into detail. LOL…
“This year though is my first time i have been feeling that (outside the lack of progress in pocket presence which i feel is not progressing at all) so its possible that things will bounce back after this cluster-fuck of a year settles down.”
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He didn’t start last season very well prior to the London trip either, so there’s historical precedence, but I just don’t realistically believe that we’re going to turn a corner with an Interim HC at the helm. I have the distinct feeling this is going to be a long year of certain people blaming me for what’s wrong with the fins. LOL…
Im a credit where credit is due kind of guy and a call a spade a spade guy. He strightens up, i will back off my criticism, but he needs to get better.
He needs to get better but I still think you’re over analyzing it.
anybody besides me enjoy that illegal batting last night. a ref staring right at it and no call, but some how they pulled that shit call out against the fins in favor of the pats. who would have thunk the nfl has an agenda.
in other news: the world is ending October 8th 3:45pm unless ross sales the dolphins
Totally. I heard someone on the radio this morning call it “the rule that nobody ever heard of before”…I just thought: Clearly doesn’t watch the Fins.
Gigi and others that hate Tannenbaum….I think most of that hate comes from the fact that he was involved with the truly hated Jets. Was why I despised him initially.
But look, Tbaum is respected around the NFL, he was part of the Jets getting to 2 AFC championship games…..so I’ve put my Jets hatred aside and am approaching Tbaum with an open mind, and I think the rest of you that aren’t, SHOULD. Cause he’s not going anywhere real soon.
D,
Just keep in the back of your mind about the most sacked QB the past 3 years….that doesn’t lend to many decent pockets to which to work from….even if some of those sacks, hits, & pressures are clearly on him.
The lack of commitment to run & plays from under center are allowing teams to jailbreak at Tanny on most every snap. That has to be changed with the play calling/scheme.
i saw a game last night with 2 qbs every one says are way better then tanny and they looked awful behind two o-lines that couldnt block. but we will just harp on how bad tanny is and not say how horrible the o line is.
Jahndoh30 says:
October 6, 2015 at 12:57 pm (Edit)
That’s two votes on the pocket presence. My take is that there has been almost no pocket from which to evaluate his presence in…since he was drafted…but I don’t disagree with you guys’ X’s and O’s too often, so maybe I’m wrong…
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its not wrong
a lot of the time its right, sometimes the pocket is just not there.
its just not right all the time
and when there is a pocket he still doesn;t seem to understand when it will collapse
In London, the Jets blitzed DBs over 30 times. There was some pocket up the middle
but a lot of it came from the edges
He just does stay composed when he moves in the pocket
he doesn;t step up or right or left
Once thier is pressure – it feels like the play is over
Compare Aaron Rogers (I realize he is the cream of the crop) and you can see how much worse Tanny is then the top QB
Even though the OL is bad – there is room to evaluate Tanny
The OL is not bad on every play
and when they are not – Tanny doesn’t make defenses pay
I think even Tanny’s contemporary Russell Wilson moves significantly better in the pocket than Tanny does
I guess that’s my criticism with him- he seems to make decisions slowly when the pocket breaks down, the decision seems to be .. not the best choice, and it seems he does not have quick-twitch.. It takes him a while (compared to a wilson) to get up to his full speed.
he’s not very good when it doesn;t go as scripted
I feel like he needs everything else to be perfect to succeed
LMAO @ SB! That was great
evaluating tanny’s pocket presence with this oline is like evaluating a basketball players jump shot with no rim to shoot at.
Tannenbaum signed Sanchez for $40 million — if you think he is good well LOL – here is more:
http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2015/01/07/miami-dolphins-hiring-mike-tannenbaum-is-a-recipe-for-disaster/
http://www.footballnation.com/content/mike-tannenbaums-mercenary-philosophy-bad-draft-decisions-doom-jets/14062/
so if tanny needs improvement then i guess miller is a totally hopeless cause.
😉
gigi,
i emailed ross and told him to sell the team cause you and OD wont stop till he does.
he replied back: i know you are but what am i.
I just think Tannehill is a little shellshocked. I think his lack of protection on most plays has him rushing his thinking processes to the point where he’s not seeing the things he used to see.
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
David Carr Syndrome!
If you remember David Carr, RT is nowhere near that bad. It wasn’t just the OL with Carr, he wasn’t any good.
Mike E
Either that or he has maxed out his IQ and that’s all you get?
I do sometimes question his football IQ. I know he works hard, but there are some skills that are innate, that he doesn’t seem to have. It amazes me that he still can’t loft a pass with good trajectory, either a fade route or deep pass.
Rob
Liar! His response was : “Sorry, I’m out of the office right now, most likely in NY, not thinking about running the team, I have my lackeys in FLA taking care of that. Please try again!”
It’s the LOS on both sides of the ball. Fix that and watch everything get better.
Might be selfish of me, but one thing about Ross is he is putting hundreds of millions into improving the stadium.
Won’t be able to check out the improvements for this year until the Fest, and pretty sure I am going to like the shade with next year’s improvements.
But key thing is that moving the team is off the table. You don’t put that kinda money in if you are going to do an Irsay.
Well it’s getting late in the day. If it hasnt come down by now it never will
Oh well, so much for Campbell. Coyle will be his undoing too and I guess I will be picking the Titans when I get back to taking scores 😦
The problem is the offense is even worse.
I’m not sure there was a 24 hour window on it
it might still happen
I just want Campbell to roll out the wildcat for at least a half especially when we play the Pats.
I actually think David Carr sucked
So if Tanny has that syndrome – he sucks right?
I don;t get this as a defense of Tanny
whatever the cause of it, its there
You guys want to sign David Carr and see how he performs
He probably still sucks
we can argue causation ll you want
But we still have to deal with the results
Yeah and the OL and DL still isn’t good enough for whatever reason. Until they start playing better it will be more of the same. No football team can sustain poor trench play.
I do get the idea that Campbell is concerned about this as his primary focus and may take the steps to change that
Tim Knight says:
October 6, 2015 at 1:39 pm (Edit)
The problem is the offense is even worse.
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Brace yourself for the inevitable “maybe Philbin handcuffed Lazor” replies
I doubt it.
I think its all Lazor
and its actually Chip Kelly as well
and in Oregon when the skill players are so much better than the players they face – there is always a defensive break down to make big plays
but not in the pros IMO
I like a lot of the things Campbell said
I think he really wants to be more physical all week and it will show on the filed
But I think, if we keep the design of this offense and playcalling, even if you execute some of the same problems will come up again
1st down 3 yard pass
2nd down 3 yard run
3rd down, throw around the 1st down marker
is not a great formula for success
if you execute perfectly
there are no drops
every pass is on target
and there are no turnovers
but try sustaining that for an 80 yard drive
There is going to be a drop
or a fumble
o a tipped pass
or a sack
or a penalty
you cannot design a passing offense to barely convert third downs and consistently score
Piggy, we agree Lazor’s scheme is flawed – if we’re not making explosive plays and scoring lots of TDs, this offense can’t survive on long drives with this OL and lack of running game.
I also don;t think the design of the offense is even close to one that would provide a good OL and running game
Lets start with running from shotgun
It always looks like the same play to me when we hand off to Miller
Is it the same play? It feels like it is….lol
Think about when you’re at work, and it’s really busy. I know I make more mistakes when it’s like that, and I think it’s the same for Tanny when he’s constantly getting pressured. Some QB’s see it better than others, so if you want to say Tanny sucks because he can’t escape, or see the field better when he’s under duress, so be it. Not many QB’s are good under those circumstances, and good luck finding one.
We’ve seen it time and time again. We saw it with Dan when he didn’t have time, and there was a time when Buffalo’s defense lead by Bruce Smith would destroy us and the Pats lead by Andre Tippet did the same. Trench play is where it all starts.
Mike e
If you get so busy at work you stick a pen in the customer’s eye, it will cause you professional problems…lol
Some jobs require you to stay cool under pressure. I know my job does
People have always praised QBs who deliver under pressure
so lets not ignore a QB who does not
Yet last year RT was one the best QBs against blitz pressures. The entire offense is broken, it’s not about one guy.
Also yes our running game seems to have 4 running plays – off-tackle sweep, the stretch, the shotgun draw and the read-option. No power runs inside with any authority.