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Tim, that’s what I like about Perry. He’s big but can move and can get snaps as a D-end. I like him in a “Suh” defense.
Good prospect.
Goodnight, folks
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-delegate-tracker/
Trump has been neutralized- He gained only 14 delegates last night from the 4 states voting—-Trump 458 Cruz 359, Florida is a winner take all 99 delegates. It takes 1237 delegates to win
Mario…. good signing. Will catch up during Spring Break on why I have “disappeared”. 🙂
Good to see you reappear Copperfield. 😉
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/delegate-count-tracker——trump needs from the remaining 1435 delegates 977 to secure the nomination another words 68% of delegates whereas it was only 67% before this last election yesterday.
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/delegate-count-tracker
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Source tells @mortreport and I #Dolphins-#Eagles trade involving Byron Maxwell, Kiko Alonzo may be off b/c concern Maxwell shoulder injury
Apparently he is with doctors now in Florida getting checked out.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_delegate_count.html#!
Trump needs to win all the remaining “winner take all” and then a additional 77 delegates from states that give delegates based on percentage(proportional).
I think you mean to make the nominee automatic and not place it in the hands of the party
but even if he doesn’t do that he is probably still the leader and republicans probably should make the leader the nominee for the good of the party.
Piggy, you may be right…but God help us if it happens…..I am 100% with you on your views of Trump.
Wow, Williams cap number in 2016 will be $6.5 million.
Jumps to $10.5 in 2017. No complaints on this from me.
@JeffDarlington: Important note as Dolphins-Eagles trade becomes a thing: Deal only included swap of 1st-rd picks, source says. 4th rounder was not involved.
Good that’s all I care about
Let’s hope its true
I’ve heard 100 rumors about it by now
The 4th rounder might be that attacking LB I want
trading back in the first is not so bad
unless Jack or Ramsey fall to #8
then we missed a shot at a good player
you have to expect that between 8 and 13 that guys like Ragland, Lee, Lawson, Stanley, Alexander or Hargreaves might come off the board too –
So we might miss another good fit for us
but generally – I expect a good player we can use at 13
and I don’t think that’s a bad deal
but the 4th rounder matters! lol
Bookman
we are going to be taken for a wild ride the next few months
so brace yourself…
at least we have the Dolphins…..lol
Les Bowen @LesBowen · 4m4 minutes ago
Source: Maxwell went to Miami for physical, told Dolphins’ doc he couldn’t do bench press or pushups. Told Eagles he was fine at end of year
not being able to do a push up is a pretty serious problem
I had injured my shoulder years back and wasn’t able to lift or workout in general for about 3 months. No surgery was require & I recovered just fine, but we have no clue what’s the true detail of his injury.
piggy I just relized I have the same screensaver that you used of the stars photo of the article. Well, off to the dentist this morning. I had nightmares last night about the drill bit breaking
So now the trade may not go down because of concerns about Maxwell’s shoulder. I guess we’ll see. Alonso is the one I like more in this trade. I wonder if we can still get that done.
Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero · 4m4 minutes ago
Trade side note: Kiko Alonso, also part of deal, passed his physical, had dinner with coaches last nite and flew home this morn. All good.
Which is one reason I still wouldn’t complain if they move forward with the trade. He was the biggest PC to me.
Yeah, but the deal might not go through because of Maxwell right?
Might not & that’s what most are saying, but someone said Darlington said the opposite….who knows.
@A_Siracusa27: According to Darlington the trade is still going through
This Mario vs. OV because of age convo that’s out there is sully. Mario is a better player than OV, end of debate. I don’t care if OV is 22, is not an elite player and Mario has been.
I read a story that talks about how a team signing OV to a big deal could be a bust. Why? Because when looking at OV’s game tape, he rarely creates the sack himself, he gets it as a result of an overall pass rush or on a blitz. Something Randy has said many times and I agree with.
Agreed. Cap hit this year $6.5 vs OVs of $15+
I find very few scenarios where keeping Wake makes any sense, unless you are just wanting to make sure you have an adequate answer for Vernon first. This could mean Wake stays util after draft or until we make another move in FA.
Only scenario i could come up with that makes any sense would be use Williams and Wake in tandem to extend the football life of both, however that means you now have approximately 18mil tied up at LDE. To think, well they can just move one of them to the RDE spot i think is asking for disappointment. Thes guy are career LDE’s they occasionally will rotate or maybe flip sides but its rare. To expect that same production flipped to the other side is going to end with us bitching about either keeping Wake or signing Williams.
We save 8.4 mil cutting Wake, which would put us in the black for the Williams deal on its own, i think we really need to consider the 8.4 mil as being a potential OG plus some, or a top other prospect, etc. Keeping Wake with as much question as there is surrounding his recovery and ability to play a different side, etc. just makes so little sense to me.
Mario has lined up on both sides even though yes he’s been mainly a LDE since he was drafted.
They all have lined up on both sides Tim, his sacks come lined up as a LDE, i would expect being primarily on the RDE spot to see a drop off in production. I think they are just holding on to Wake until they have a better option for RDE
A lot of talk that Miami locks up Pacman & Alex Boone today.
@uSTADIUM: Dolphins have officially rescinded the transition tag on LB/DE on Olivier Vernon (Schefter).
No surprise.
@NealDriscoll: After pulling tag from Vernon, Dolphins are $25 million under cap. Brent Grimes release would free another $6.4 million giving Mia $31.4m
@FinsInsider: Numerous reports saying Dolphins have removed the transition tag. That is a good sign Dolphins are making progress on re-structure w/ Wake
Thats the only way i see him staying is to drop down to about what Mario is making, if not less.
@AlbertBreer: Still a good chance that Byron Maxwell and Kiko Alonso land with Dolphins, I’m told. But a lot of moving pieces (comp, contract) involved.
Boone and Pacman wont be overly expensive pickups, should still leave us with a good amount of space to make a couple other moves, but i hope they roll over as much as they can to next year.
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 2m2 minutes ago
Bengals expected to hang onto safety George Iloka http://wp.me/p14QSB-a00M
Fucking Obama is missing the funeral of one of the most endearing first ladies of all time to attend South by Southwest music festival. Classy.
I’ve always thought despite him trying to act like this nice guy that he’s a bit of defiant douche.
Looks like the Giants got Jenkins
Good for them. They’ll target OV as well.
Looks like he is going to sign for 12mil per which is about what i was expecting.
The only problem with this site is they already decided Grimes is out. LOL
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/cap/
IMO all presidents alive and able to attend a former president or former first ladies funeral should. It might not be a requirement but damn if it isnt a sign of disrespect not to.
He should be thinking about it like how would i feel if my wife diaes later in life and the current president doesnt give a shit enough to attend, to me that also would be disrespectful. Question is would he have done that to a Dem’s first lady? Is this a party thing or is he just a bad person.
@howardeskin: Sources tell me #Dolphins will clear Byron Maxwell on Physical and trade w #Eagles will go thru and be completed. @FOX29philly
@ProFootballDoc: Would be surprising for a trade to be cancelled over a sternoclavicular (SC) joint injury. Usually not chronic. https://t.co/oiYWILNf2i
@AlbertBreer: Agent @AlvinKeels tweets that the Dolphins have cleared CB Byron Maxwell. Trade should be back on.
If the injury isn’t severe or chronic, Maxwell has 5 months to heal up before camp starts.
Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero 5m5 minutes ago
Dolphins source confirms Dolphins trade for Byron Maxwell and Kiko Alonso will go forward.
The Giants will be a better defense with OV and Jenkins
So IMO those will be good free agent moves for them
Free agency does work
It’s just a question about making the right moves IMO
They probably will overpay for those 2 players
But that is free agency
Gotta draft well too
D
I tend to think either Wake or Willains can play on either side
Willains has experience doing it before
Wake was successful as a 3-4 a OLB and 4-3 DE
So he has proven to be versatile
$ is the big question in terms of keeping Wake
In terms of money Wake will probably end up being a better option than OV
In terms of talent I think Wake is far superior to OV as well
In terms of health and age I think OV has the edge
But to me – playing on the right side is a nonfactor
I think DeMarcus Ware went from left side to right side last season
And he had 7.5 sacks for the Broncos and a very good post season
Double check on him switching from left to right
I didn’t look it up
I’m assuming
But I think the primary difference is you are facing a LT instead of a RT
So there is a talent jump on the other side
Other than that – is there really a huge difference
I guess one doesn’t play next to Suh either
So our LB situation at this time looks like this.
SOLB Misi, Hewitt
MLB Alonso, Misi, Vigil
WOLB Alonso, Jenkins, Hewitt
What LB would you add from the draft not named Jack because we’re not getting him. I think if we’re picking #13 I’d go with Ragland. Alonso, Jenkins and Hewitt are leaner type LBs, Ragland would give us a bigger more stout LB like Misi. We’d have a lot of options with these guys and could rotate them and we’d have some depth.
Yuk at the current situation
My answer is I would add a guy named Myles…lol
Ragland works
You know he would play MLB
And just let the competition play out at OLB
Brothers and Matakavich also fit that mold
I like the attacking LBs behind our DL though
Darron Lee, Dion Jones & Scooby Doo
Maybe a Late round flyer on Jaylon Smith
There are plenty of LBs in the draft that can compete for a starting job with that group
That group as health consideration and are not all pro players
So I would say nothing is locked up for any of them
I really think those udfa from a year ago should not be relied on – even as depth
How is that yuk? I think you’re underrating that group and overrating the LBs in the draft.
Glad to see the pre-free agency is starting to shape up for us, and that Cap space will no longer be an issue.
Rock On Phins!
Jetssuck
You should get a bottle of TootsMax as a mouse…lol
I got a root canal for 800 dollars and only got pain but he did give me a tip is you can use a teabag when you have toothache if you bite down on it. He couldn’t explain why so maybe he was BS me so I would have emergency and he can charge me more.
Really excited about the latest rumor on the Eagles trade being just a 1st rd swap & no loss of a 4th round pick.
This is what I was originally speculating dy 1. I said it probably just involves a swap of an early pick, but yeah that’s early…lol
So LISTEN to me people! 😉
Then everyone went wild thinking about who we could draft with that extra 4th. LOL
Its not the same, punch comes from a different hand, the path to the QB is inverse, its a good bit different all the pass rush moves you have refined playing LDE are completely different. RT’s and LT, like DE’s arent always interchangeable, you see a good bit of players who when they change sides it completely changes their quality of play. If they gotta keep both, they need to draft a guy for RDE and let Wake tandem with him there. Let Williams do what he does best.
Yes, it’s also why we see difficulty for guys on the OL, going from RT – LT & LT to RT, even with the OG’s too.
Piggy > “I really think those udfa from a year ago should not be relied on – even as depth”
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Even as depth? WTF! There is talent that gets realized / developed all the itme in the NFL from 1st rounders to UDFA’s, to CFL, etc.
Many stars over the years and solid starters from UDFA’s.
To say you don’t want these guys even for depth….SMH!
…..and how many times have we seen big names drafted in the 1st round, even #1’s overall, become busts too?
It’s all about player development, schemes, and surrounding team. Who cares really what a guy’s done in college.
No one gets onto an NFL roster without some good production from somewhere before being invited to pro camps!
Ok, I beat ya up enough….lol
Go Phins!
reliance and the possibility of it happening are two different things
they can compete for jobs just like anyone else
but I did not see standount performances from Vigil or Hewitt last year when they played
I saw a roster that lacked talent and was willing to play young players bc they had nothing to loose
if we drafted 2 or more LBs in the draft
those guys could easily be cut
Sure they can make the team or even start too
but let’s not get ahead of ourselves
we were really bad at LB last year
relying on rookie UDFA by the end of the year just underscores how bad we were at LB in 2015
Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero 23m23 minutes ago
The Dolphins are losing DE Olivier Vernon, added DE Mario Williams. They will add another DE in UFA. Rams William Hayes in play.
If we sign Hayes, then Wake is definitely gone.
We still better also draft a DE early, which I’m sure they will with the talent there in this class of 2016.
I’m not sure about that. Recent reports has us keeping Wake. I could see us drafting a DE either 1-2 rounds.
Tim, why would we sign Mario, then Hayes, then draft a DE in the 1st-2nd rd, & still keep Wake’s big contract, restructure or not?
D, one of our guys is gone. So glad we didn’t pay that…OMG, Jerry Reese just lost my respect with all the major FA signings….lol. Guess ya got to spend the money, but not foolishly.
Our deal for Maxwell is starting to look better, especially if he restructures. He has shown the ability to be as good as Jenoris Jenkins.
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Giants agreed to terms with CB Janoris Jenkins, formerly of the Rams, on a five-year, $62.5 million contract.
The deal includes $29 million in fully guaranteed money. After turning down five years and $45 million from the Rams, Jenkins went on to hit it big as the No. 1 available corner. The $12.5 million per year places Jenkins as the league’s seventh-highest paid corner in terms of annual average.
I keep hearing on the radio and reading online how we’re these big spenders and we’re killing the cap etc. when that’s not really what happened the last couple of days.
It’s also silly to think that we targeted Maxwell because we think he sucks and just wanted to take on a big contract. We view him as a starter in our new defense. So is Alonso and so is Mario on a very solid deal. The media and idiot fans out there can…
Looks like someone already gnawed the hind legs off that porker?
Vikings agreed to terms with OG Alex Boone, formerly of the 49ers.
Say buh bye!
Yep….surprised.
Rumor was we were looking at Schwartz, has Ramon Foster signed anywhere yet?
I believe Pitt is or just resigned Foster.
Matt Hasselbeck has announced his retirement from the NFL after 18 seasons.
He is joining Sunday NFL Countdown and Monday Night Countdown on ESPN. A 1998 sixth-rounder, Hasselbeck was Brett Favre’s backup before moving onto Seattle and seizing starting duties for 10 years. He made three Pro Bowls, and started the 2006 Super Bowl. He finishes with 212 touchdowns across 209 NFL games.
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Tanny is currently on pace for over 400 TD’s over 18 seasons. 😀
Dolphins acquire CB Vernon Maxwell, ILB Kiko Alonso, No. 13 overall from Eagles for No. 8 overall
Grade for Dolphins – MILLEN ISIAH BABY
Grade for Eagles – A+
Read more at http://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php#koAaScq6V0WhxMSh.99
Millen grade is them saying it was a cock up lol
They also gave the Mario Williams signing an equally bad grade.
lol, hardly a Matt Millen deal. Look at the draft trade chart…we got 2 vets that have shown production, and both are under 30 (28 & 25).
“The Dolphins essentially acquired two injured, overpriced players” Really Alonso is overpriced at a little over a million? By the way he’s not injured. LOL
What clown wrote this?
My guess it was Walter from Walterfootball. He is a assclown sometimes. I generally hate his mocks. Charlie Campbell’s (also from walterfootball.com) are usually better.
he’s on a rookie contract
GD, all three of our DEs are over 30 and you need depth and youth to develop.
LOL, I get that. Is why I posted that we’ll still draft a DE early as well.
So why did you question me then you psycho? LOL
LOL, that’s me a psycho killer…bap bap bap bap bah
No, I said, we likely wouldn’t keep Wake if we also sign Hayes, cause we’ll want to draft a young stud DE early one.
Was right about Iloka, he got 6mil per.
from who?
D, I stopped using Walter a long time ago. Was never really a fan and their projections are usually need based an off.
Tim Knight says:
March 9, 2016 at 11:25 am (Edit)
How is that yuk? I think you’re underrating that group and overrating the LBs in the draft.
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I just don’t see what you see in our LB group as is
I see 2 guys with injury histories
UDFA rookie free agents that did the best they could under the circumstances but probably would not have even played if we had depth
and Jenkins – who I credit with production but probably overachieved in a large part bc of the lack of talent around him. I tend to think since no one else is collecting tackles – Jenkins better
Rashad Jones production last year was probably in a large part bc LBs were unable to produce
That group of Lbs screams for, at a minimum, competition in camp
Between Alonso, Hewitt, Vigil and Jenkins they are young enough to improve and in Alonso’s case even perform as he did as a rookie
but I think the possibility of that group being subpar when we look back at the 2016 season – is higher than any other unit on our team
Your assessments are bizarre. I don’t get the whole this player did well because of this or that. Jenkins was very good in 2014 and played on a high ankle sprain most of 2015.
I don’t think Misi sucks, I think Hewitt has upside, Alonso is a good LB and then we add a rookie. This idea you have about stocking up on multiple rookie LBs is not a good approach. Mainly because they’re not all going to pan out and we already have young LBs developing.
I didn’t say Misi sucks
I said its 2 guys with injury histories
and by that I meant Misi and Alonso
upside for Hewitt (or Vigil) is not something we can rely on
maybe they have it
maybe they don’t
but UDFA working there way into starters and that defense being a good defense is not the norm
it can happen – odds are it doesn’t
Jenkins is the most reliable of that group
we can probably count on him if we need to
but I think we can do better there
Its a collection of guys that might pan out
That’s just what it is
we need more if we want to succeed
moves like this have not panned out for us in the past
there is a high risk of failure when there are that many questions
I’m glad we don’t give up our 4th for this trade. Now shore up the O LINE.
It seems like I say that every year and the FO doesn’t hear it LOL
getting an OG should be priority #1 in free agency now
You dont have to convince me, the players we picked up and the cost to get them was pretty decent. We gave up what was equivalent to a 68th overall pick for the two starting caliber vets. It should cost us too much overall, 13th vs 8th has some downside but not a ton.
Good stuff, thanks.
We’ve been discussing multiple prospects at #8 and one of them will likely be there at #13.
My guess is our board told us #8 or #13 no big deal. Teams don’t make moves to screw themselves. LOL
when something is too good to be true it usually is. There is a reason the eagles let those players go.
They didn’t let them go, they traded them. Teams release, let walk and trade players all the time. We’re letting OV walk, there must be a reason. Miller will be signed by another team so I guess there’s a reason we let him walk. It works that way for all teams in FA.
975 The Fanatic’s Geoff Mosher reports the Eagles and Titans will swap fourth-round picks as the terms of the DeMarco Murray trade.
The exact terms haven’t been established because compensatory picks will move the slots down, but it’s obviously a minor price for Tennessee to pay. The Titans do have the No. 2 pick in round four, so the Eagles will move to the top of that round. The Titans move down 12 slots. The real reason Philadelphia dealt Murray was to get rid of his contract. That deal was revised upon his arrival in Nashville, and is now valued at $25.5 million over four years.
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Eagles a-wheelin-anda-dealin….
BTW, has the Maxwell restructure been announced yet?
Philadelphia is unloading
so the Titans swap picks in the 4th round to acquire DeMarco Murray – the NFL’s leading rusher in 2014
and we swap 1st rounders to acquire Aloso and Maxwell
you guys think that looks good for us?
I still look at Walter’s mocks, but i dont base anything of anyone’s mocks, more just another site to see what general consensus is. Every once and a while ya get a few news tidbits from Charlies reporting, like who has met with whom, etc. You are right though its to be taken with a salt lick so nothing to base any sort of real potential outcome off of.
Sorry, I’m just not seeing it with this trade. We give up significant draft value in order to take on a horrible contract and a one year rental on a LB that is a huge question mark. Even if Mitchell gives us decent production he’ll still be violently overpaid for the life of his contract. Even if Alonso has a great season he’s an UFA and Dolphins have no leverage there. Repeat, we gave up draft value to do this. Bad move.
Williams is a decent rental and hopefully works out, but it’s another in a long line of patches. We are also expecting a vet with red flags to come in and play at a high level, be a leader, and support the coaching staff. Hasn’t really worked out too well in the past.
One positive of the Williams deal is that it does most likely get us a 3rd round compensatory pick. That’s more like it.
I see it as a security blanket move
and really not much else
I don’t think swapping picks is giving up a lot
So I’m not real concerned about it
But I don’t see these players as the type of players we should be going after.
I still expect us to look at both LB and CB in the draft
this gives us a little more room to take the BPA in the first at whatever position that is. we don’t have to be desperate to add a LB or CB bc we have vets in 2016 that have played before
not really a long term solution to anything though for the reasons you set out
Just security IMO
Significant draft value? What if our board has #8 through 15 as the same? People get too linear with the draft as usual. Just because 9 comes after 8 doesn’t mean the prospect that goes #8 is better than #9, the team picking at #8 took the player they like.
Piggy . “they can compete for jobs just like anyone else
but I did not see standount performances from Vigil or Hewitt last year when they played
I saw a roster that lacked talent and was willing to play young players bc they had nothing to loose
if we drafted 2 or more LBs in the draft
those guys could easily be cut
Sure they can make the team or even start too”
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But Piggy, it’s not like Hewitt & Vigil have been bouncing around on practice squads for 4 yrs.
They were rookies last year….rookies, don’t usually make huge impacts as rookies.
You think by “drafting 2 or more LB’s”, that the LB corp is magically fixed and we can easily cut Hewitt & Vigil???
Those rookies we draft are going to have to develop too, and stay healthy. Let’s see what our 2nd year players bring to the table first before we get hasty over the fact that they were once UDFA’s!
PS. I still want to draft a ILB within the 1st 4 rounds to develop, & even a OLB later if he’s a BPA in a given round.
I think by adding better talent at LB we are more likely to be better
and I think the difference between an UDFA and a 2nd or 3rd rounder is usually talent
I don’t think we just happened to sign guys that went undrafted bc no one knew what they were talking about
they went undrafted for a reason
they can overcome it
but its an uphill climb
When you say “lets see what they bring”
i’m on board with that
I’m not writing anyone off
but depend on it in 2016
NO WAY!
We need to draft talent to compete with that group of LBs
that’s not a very talented group
Nobody is saying don’t add another LB in the draft. But you don’t need three.
LOL my feelings exactly
drg, I get your hesitations, but Maxwell is said to restructured as part of the deal, so we’ll see there.
Alonso can be given an extension anytime during the year before he becomes a UFA. My guess is if he looks good early on, in the 1st 1/4 of the season, or halfway thru, & is still healthy, then you propose an offer. Teams do it all the time.
Now for Mario, he’s glad to be out of that crap hole Buffalo. He knows his age is now becoming a factor. I think a good HC that can do well with a player’s psyche like Gase is known to be, can keep Mario motivated, plus he’ll have Suh pushing him too, maybe even Wake.
If they restructure it just means more guaranteed money and more cap problems down the road. No thanks.
if we replace Wake with Hayes
We are idiots
and this is the same cycle all over again
we are just cutting guys
and replacing them
instead of adding guys
I find it hard to believe we are talking OGs and LBs again
since we spent a part of last season talking about those positions
then signed a bunch of UDFA and failed to signed Evan Mathis who played at a high level once signed.
Can we actually add talent
not just replace it?
Hayes for Wake will put me over the edge
I really mean that
That’s like tripping out of the gate on a race
Im in shock. How did they fool us so badly? No one wanted Maxwell for that price. There is a decent market for CBs so why trade for an average one? Why trade for a LB who only started 33% of the time since he’s been in the league? Who is only a 1 year rental? I just don’t get it.
This was like getting robbed and reminding the thief that you still have a TAG Heuer watch on your wrist.
well
I have to see the whole thing play out
but I don’t love the start
I do like Mario Williams and I think he may thrive
Tim
I would be surprised if we drafted 3 LBs
but 2 is realistic
We just see what the draft brings and we take what’s there
if the talent is there at LB late in the draft – yeah I think you add a 3rd
that group of LBs doesn’t lock up any jobs
besides a day 3 pick can play on ST
You guys are masochist lol. Just sit back and enjoy the coming spring season.
Bullweivel
Glad we moved to the #13 pick…Danny Boy’s lucky #, and it preserves the Phins #8th overall as Tanny’s slot. 😀
You are right
the #8 pick is cursed!
😀
We targeted Maxwell whether you like it or not, the Eagles didn’t come to us and say hey how about we give you this corner and you take his contract and we get your #8 and we’ll throw in Alonso. That’s not how trades happen.
The guy is a good player, stop listening to all the negative social media about the trade from Eagles fans that don’t even realize Maxwell played really well for them for most of the season. All they remember were 3 bad games and then he got hurt.
This time of year is the same every year. It’s fucking amazing! LOL
Maxwell excelled in zone covg. Kiki Alonso, if it’s the pre-injury version, is an elite level LB.
Too lazy to scroll up, but assuming Tim’s post above is correct the blog has divulged to a piss fest😂
Everything this team does is wrong no matter who’s involved and people have all kinds of speculations about it and much better ideas, they know the details of the injury and the team is clueless. It’s crazy! Like our team targeted Maxwell and Alonso because we don’t like them as players, just wanted to piss away cap space and expect them to not be able to play because of injuries. I mean WTF?!!!
13 is a great spot where we can get either hargraves or ragland
Piggy,
The thing that bothers me is that we should have been negotiating from a position of strength. That contract was awful. Instead we let them dictate terms. They are doing a fire sale on Chip Kelly players and we jumped the gun. .
The eagles are definately doing a fire sale
I got to see if the DeMarco Murray reumor is true
if they swapped 4th rounders for the Murray trade
but swapped 1st rounders with us
it look questionable
I do think we have to see the big picture though
Before FA starts I think we got at least 2 new starters. When you add FA I think we get 2 new starters and then 2 from draft so we could end up with 6 new starters or more
Tim,
If a team trades down six spots in the first round they typically get a 3rd or 4th rounder in return. That’s pretty significant.
Yeah, but they don’t get 2 vets either tho.
Younger vets at that.
Tim,
Where does it say we targeted anyone? It’s just as likely that they were shopping these guys to any bidder(forget the highest one). These guys weren’t in the plans for next year so they looked for someone to give them anything in return. We stepped up above and beyond.
So you think we had no interest in these players and just said yea Philly whatever you want us to do? LOL
Here’s how CSN-Philadelphia Eagles insider Andrew Kulp assessed Maxwell:
“It would be fair to characterize Maxwell’s season as up and down. It began at a low point with Julio Jones’ big game [against him] – nine catches for 141 yards and two touchdowns – then the following week, Maxwell appeared to give less than full effort on a 42-yard Terrence Williams catch-and-run during the fourth quarter of a loss to the Cowboys.
“Maxwell would turn it around in the weeks that followed. According to Pro Football Focus, from Weeks 3 to 13, the fifth-year corner was targeted 45 times in coverage, allowing 28 completions for 365 yards – a meager 8.1 average per attempt – and zero touchdowns. That works out to 45 yards per game, minus Week 4 against Washington, when he exited early with an injury. Yards per catch were kept to a minimum as well at just 92 total, and he only surrendered one reception over 23 yards during that span.
“But Maxwell would go on to end the season poorly, giving up big plays in back-to-back games against Buffalo and Arizona before going out with an injury. That’s the last thing people remember, which coupled with an ugly first impression, has many people down on his play overall.
“Maxwell,” Kulp went on to write, “is not a shutdown cornerback, which is what might be expected for the cost. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t a good addition to the Eagles roster. At the very least, he was certainly an improvement over what they had. The reality is Maxwell is not a bad player, he’s merely overpaid… Essentially, it was a two-year gamble on Maxwell developing into an elite cornerback. He has the size, talent and pedigree. Based on his body of work in Seattle, you couldn’t blame anybody for thinking he might make that leap.”
If he doesn’t live up to the deal in 2016, we can cut him in 2017 with no dead cap.
Pig,
If you’re just looking at this trade in a vacuum, then sure, it isn’t the worst thing. My problem is the the way our franchise operates and this is just more of the same. I don’t agree with it in the slightest. We overspend on a few players and fill in the gaps with below average guys. We don’t maximize our volume of draft picks to account for the inevitable misses. We haven’t had an efficient coaching staff/FO for a long time to make sure that there is a system in place that maximizes the talent on the team and keeps egos in check. Just a crappy situation all around and there aren’t any easy or quick fixes.
Who are the players we overspent for? Maxwell and who? Who is below average?
I think we do this sort of musical chairs using free agency sometimes
And when the music stops – it might be a different chair but it’s no more comfy of a chair
We aren’t really the guy left standing up when the music stops
But we are yet to building a winning formula
I don’t like swapping guys out every offseason
Resigning Wake, instead of signing some one else to play DE will go a long way in changing my perception of what we are doing
But it does appear the same thing we have been doing for years
Just swapping players out instead of building something
GDP, DBolt,
Do you guys see either of these two players on our team in 2017? You can get young players for better contracts without sacrificing draft value.
I can easily see both as 4-5yr starters on this team EASILY health permitting.
drg, as I replied to you above. If Alonso looks good then our FO can extend him anytime….and Maxwell is being restructured, plus he’s a big physical corner that we’ve seriously lacked. You rather Maxwell, or Sean Smith back? No need to reply 😉
There are fans that were willing to still draft Jaylon Smith off a horrific knee injury in January and they’re fine with taking Jack at #8 also coming off a season ending knee injury, yet these injuries to proven players bother the shit out of everyone even though Alonso is healthy and Maxwell’s shoulder injury isn’t considered serious and he has 5 months before TC starts. I don’t get shit like that. LOL
Jack will be ready at TC
Smith is potentially a late round steal
I do t hear a lot of people talking about drafting Smith early after what came out at the combine
Yeah abut it’s contradictory and all speculative and projection. Both Maxwel and Alonso have proven they can play.
Piggy, I wouldn’t lose sleep over the DeMarco Murray deal. He fell off significantly last season. Less production than our own Miller, & was under a huge contract, which even now is said to be restructured by the Titans @ a still hefty 4yrs $25.5M
RBs traditionally have a short shelf life
But he was he leading rusher in the league 2 years ago
Tim,
Suh, Wallace, Ellerbe, Wheeler, Albert to name a few. Everyone else around the league sees it. Dolphins are my team, I live and die with them. Doesn’t mean I agree with how they operate.
I leave Suh and Albert off that list
The others guys though – agreed
But every team has a less than 50% success rate with FA’s, yet they still sign them each year to fill needs both talent wise & capwise.
I think Tim is talking about this FA period.
I thought you meant this year. None of that has happened this year.
drg, as I replied to you above. If Alonso looks good then our FO can extend him anytime….and Maxwell is being restructured, plus he’s a big physical corner that we’ve seriously lacked. You rather Maxwell, or Sean Smith back? No need to reply 😉
GDP,
Why would Mitchell restructure unless we are guaranteeing him more money? That just makes our cap situation even worse. If he performs like a #1 CB then the contract will still slightly overpay him, but I can live with that. There isn’t a ton of evidence to suggest he will though.
If Alonso plays at a high level next year we will have to pay him market or above market value to sign him so he’s not much different than any other FA other than we know what we’re signing. Similar to the OV situation right now.
Ooook, but that would be the situation regardless of who we had on the roster that had a hefty contract (Grimes, Cameron), or who was approaching UFA.
If Maxwell performs like a number 1 then the contract becomes advantageous of the team. If Alonso gets back to form in 2016 then you pay him and lockdown the spot for years to come.
Preach it DRG!
Pig,
Suh eats up a HUGE amount of cap space. Does he give us an increase in performance at his position proportional to his salary? Our defense and DVOA was worse last year. You can blame other positions, but his salary hampers our ability to surround him with talent. He also doesn’t seem to be a leader in the locker room and inspire others.
I happen to like the Suh signing
I think that’s a player you build on
But the swapping out of players
Like Dansby/Burnett for Ellerbee/Wheeler
That kills me
I think it’s fair to say there is a new pariah every offseason
You can argue that Stills was a swap out for Wallace and we lost a 3rd rounder in that swap
I’m fine adding players
Bu Grimes for Maxwell is a swap
We were losing OV
So I’m not judging Williams for OV that way
But if we cut Wake and sign another DE
That’s a big one
That’s the cycle that never stops around the Dolphins
i think we get a guard in FA and maybe safety today and call it day
We had to suck really hard to get the no. 8 pick in this draft and we gave away all that hard earned sucking.
Jack has had only one major injury that he’s fully recovered from. Alonso has had one and then a re-tear of the injury. Once again, Alonso has started 33% of his games and most of them were his first year in the league. That’s not a minor quibble.
Alonso is a hit or miss gamble right now. He can pay off really big and he can fade away into anonymity because of that injury history.
Paying him the remainder of his rookie deal is worth it or we can pay Sheppard $2 million to hold down the fort again😂
So is Alonso. Has Jack run yet because he couldn’t at the combine?
When you blow your knee training in the offseason you’re going to miss 16 games.
I continue to be amazed by some attitudes on here to the trades and F/A dealings. 2 starters to move down 5 spots where we will still get great value, yes please. We sign super Mario for less than an injured Wake, let over-priced OV walk, cut a past it slow short overpaid CB in Grimes taking his ho with him. The media’s campaign led by that POS Florio from PFT and ably assisted by the Troll Omar has warped a lot of fans views on the Phins.
I would have kept the no. 8 pick and if we traded down I would have traded for picks instead of guys who are not real difference makers.
And that’s the thing here
How good are Alonso and Maxwell
Bc they were great players in 2015
Acquiring them is prett much “let’s wait and see”
But moving down in the draft does have value
You don’t know what is there at 8
And the possibility of a trade down is there as well
I’m not crushed about the trade
I’m don’t really see a real benefit though
I love trading down for more picks, but I in no way think it was a terrible trade. They got a starting CB & LB that will cost Mia essentially 5.5 million a guy vs the cap. If they signed one of the top DBs in FA you might be looking at a $10 million hit alone and possibly another 4-6 signing a LB. I really can’t complain at this time.
Who in our division has done better? We have gained big time and I can honestly say we are the cusps of thge division crown now and who knows the SB with any luck.
Ken,
I hate being negative. I’ll slowly talk myself into everything Miami does this offseason and have the Kool Aid ready for opening kick off.
I am not drinking the cool aid on this trade just yet. Moving down from 8 to 13 is a lot of value to give up. It means we won’t have a chance at Jack or Hargreaves who both are probably bigger difference makers than either guy we traded for.
These moves fill 3 holes, bang just like that. We missed on my pick for OG Boone but we are still chasing Sweezy so to say the OG will be neglected is just wrong. Media again! Piggy is harping on drafting LBs, why? We have some young promising guys along with the new bloke who will be a stud in this 4-3 system. Great fit for us. Pacman comes in and the 2 starting CBs are set. Use the draft to top us up with talent instead of having to rely on them.
Pig,
Agree with much of what you said. I think we are cutting Miko more than her poor husband, but throwing teammates under the bus is not cool in my book. I don’t care if it’s Tannehill or somebody on the practice squad. You don’t go there. Miko is straight psycho and I’m guessing the team felt like they had to be rid of her.
And I would have been okay with retaining OV for a decent price, but we aren’t in a good position to retain him for what his price looks to be. I think the Williams deal plus a compensatory makes sense. That compensatory might disappear though if we sign a couple high priced FAs.
Who knows with comp picks
That formula is some sort of strange language only he Ravens speak…lol
The OV for Willaims move makes sense to me too
I have no issues with that move at all
The others leave me with ? So far
Every offseason there are new Pariahs on this team that need to be replaced for this reason or that reason
And we spent the offseason replacing them
Get better
Don’t just swap guys
I’ve said this before the move was made consistently
And we did the opposite so far
So I’m gonna criticize
Wake and Grimes were pro bowl players for Miami
What have you done for me lately is great to make splashes in March
But means nothing in December
But if we cut Wake and sign another DE
That’s a big one
That’s the cycle that never stops around the Dolphins
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As opposed to keeping Wake who’ll turn 34 this year & may never have that initial burst anymore. The complaint was before he got hurt, how he disappeared at times.
Teams like Pittsburgh & NE dump older high priced vets a year early rather than a year too late.
It’s all a gamble, and one that is a fine line many times. These guys have more inside knowledge than we do, and they’re obviously weighing all the decisions very heavily.
Time will always tell if they are right or wrong.
They had more inside knowledge that we had last season too
And that lead to 6-10
The gamble hasn’t bode well the last few season
Less gambling
More building
We should be able to build off our strengths without giving guys up
We don’t
Hard to build off of 35yo guys coming off achilles tears, or 33yo tiny CB’s that got manhandled by the big WR’s in the division, or a avg DE wanting $15M for his first contract.
The one that I don’t like seeing get away is Miller, but I understand the money issue.
Maybe he is just constipated
OMG, a 1st rounder that might not work out.
Good thing there are also FA’s out there just incase…..lol
Choose wisely
That’s all I am saying
That’s all we can hope for, and after that, it’s still a freakin gamble, or else everyone would make the super bowl each year. 😉
Ken says:
March 9, 2016 at 1:31 pm
I would have kept the no. 8 pick and if we traded down I would have traded for picks instead of guys who are not real difference makers.
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I like having plenty of draft picks too, but who’s to say a bunch of draft picks are going to be real difference makers? Most teams drafts are very hit or miss, as is ours….and evey team cuts & signs FA’s every year. You have to spend the most of the Cap money.
also new coaches & systems dictate that changes be made.
Apparently Alex Boone signed with the Vikings
So he is not available anymore
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25510170/a-7th-grader-named-goodell-used-a-science-project-to-solve-deflategate
I ‘m not drinking the kool aid or pissing in the corn flakes, just discussing what we’re doing. Until we prove it on the field nothing we do in the offseason really matters. Negative opinions about the trade have no more bearing on it than positive opinions until we know what the results are.
https://twitter.com/jeff_ireland/status/707639011813122048
Life of a fan who’s team hasn’t made the playoffs in years.
whose team^^
Our pal Evan Silva up to pouring it on again
This all came out as soon as his signing was official. It’s so obvious the bias. Dwell in it if you must, it’s not my thing. That’s like complaining on a beautiful day that it might rain in a few days. LOL
When things go bad for a team they always say players quit like the bills and Williams
I never buy it
Finally I didn’t buy it with Wallace and the Dolphins in 2014
Once you are out of the playoffs their is less motivation than before and that’s just the way it is
I expect the Bills to miss the playoff next year too
Well Wallace surely quit. You don’t walk off the field while a play is still going on.
NFL.com’s Ian Rapoport reports the Jets and Dolphins are interested in free agent Matt Forte.
Forte has now been connected to three teams, with Green Bay joining Miami and New York.
Doug Kyed of NESN.com reports the Patriots have shown interest in free agent Rishard Matthews.
Matthews has been connected to both New England and Tennessee in the past two days. Teams that whiffed on Marvin Jones (Lions) should be taking a long look at Matthews, who plays a similar game and is coming off a strong season in Miami, before it was cut short by five games due to fractured ribs.
GDP
Those guys that are 30+ have limited time left
No question about that
But adding young guys has nothing to do with that
You add young guys behind them
You let them compete for jobs
You build off that
Maybe the 30+ year olds beat the odds
Maybe the young guys are better
But we don’t do that
We just replace the whole thing
And everyone is new
And we don’t know what we have
It’s a gamble
But I think if you keep your guys that previously performed and bring in young guys it’s a much safer gamble
I get all that, but then this thing called Cap & contracts & injuries, & new coaches & new systems comes into play that has to be factored. It’s very hard as a GM to have the best of all worlds. Some tough decisions have to be made every year.
Browns just lost Alex Mack to the Falcons for $9.5M per year, and Travis Benjamin went to the Chargers…….
Piggy, who are we giving up and how have we fared with the same players year after year?
Piggy was afraid to cut ties with his former employer & start his own team.
Now that he finally made the tough deal, he may find bigger production, success, & his financial stats could soar! 😀
Honestly it seems like this FA period has been a more self controlled one by Miami IMO. How many HUGE contracts have they’ve been associated with that will be announced at 4pm?
Seems so. Like I said, every team has to add & subtract FA’s each year. These moves by Miami seem to be for the good of the team Capwise (in most cases), and also leaves the feeling that they’ll also continue to build thru the draft.
You have to have a balance of both!
Correct……especially installing new offensive and defensive systems.
😉