A Look at our Linebackers – 2016

If you look at our defense from 2015, one thing is very clear, our LB’s were sub par, and that’s a pretty across the board statement.  I think Jenkins is still young and worth developing,  but a high ankle sprain hampered him all season, until either he, or the coaches decided to rest him for the last 3 games.  Jelani Jenkins appeared and started in 13 games last season, and finished with 71 total tackles (50 solo), which is down big time from last season (120 total/83 solo).  Last season, Jenkins had 1 FF, and 1 FR, while 2 seasons ago, Jenkins forced 2 fumbles, had 1 fumble recovery, but also had 3.5 sacks.  Definitely a step backwards for our young LB.

As far as the other 2 LB spots, who were previously filled by Koa Misi (MLB, SLB), Kelvin Sheppard (MLB), and then at the end of the season when almost the entire roster was on IR, Zach Vigil (MLB) and Neville Hewitt (SLB).  It was hard to really evaluate either Hewit or Vigil with the limited amount of playing time they received, but both showed they have some promise, but weren’t necessarily ready for prime time.  In case you’ve been kidnapped, in a deep freeze, or just saving yourself from frustration, and haven’t been following the Dolphins the last couple of months, we traded with the Philadelphia Eagles, acquiring ILB Kiko Alonso and CB Byron Maxwell  and the #13 pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, in exchange for our #8 pick in this year’s draft.

So where does that leave us?  It appears as if Kiko Alonso in line to be our starting MLB, and Koa Misi is set to start at SOLB, leaving the WOLB to Jelani Jenkins.  If y’all remember last season, and you’re a cynical SOB like me, yeah, that just doesn’t cut it for me.  Too much of the same MO of relying on oft injured players (Alonso, Misi) and also expecting the same guys to do better.  How often does that actually happen?  Is it possible Alonso reverts back to the player he was in his rookie season in BUF.,  in 2013, Alonso was a beast, totaling 154 tackles (87 solo), 2 sacks, 5 passes defensed, 4 INT’s, and 2 FR’s.  In 2014, Alonso tore his ACL and missed the entire ’14 season.  He was then traded before the ’15 season to the Eagles, mostly because he was too small to play in Rex Ryan’s 3-4 defense, and fit much better in PHI.

I know everyone wants to draft a CB, DE, OLB or even a RB at #13, but I want to go in a different direction.  When we were picking at #8, I resigned myself to the fact that it was an unrealistic pick for that spot, but now that we’re selecting 5 spots later, i feel this pick is right in line, and although most mocks don’t have this player quite this early, NFL.com does have him rated as the 11th best player in the draft, so again, not unrealistic.  Who is it?

Reggie Ragland

Alabama MLB Reggie Ragland 6’1″ 247

 

Yes, Reggie Ragland.  All the guy does is tackle, and not 5 yards downfield, and not on the second try, he hits the right gap and BOOM – Down goes the ball carrier!  I know a lot of people fear that Ragland is a 2-down MLB, and will have to be subbed for in nickel and dime packages, but I don’t think that’s necessarily the case.  UNless you’re 100% convinced that Kiko Alonso still the same guy he was before the 2 knee injuries (1 major, 1 minor), although the 2nd injury wasa non-contact injury, and that scares me.  In game 2 of the ’15 season, Alonso was running to make a play, and felt his knee give out.  He played in a reserve role much of the ’15 season.

OK, back to Reggie!  Of course, college stats aren’t pro stats, that much is a given, but I think Reggie Ragland is as pro-ready an NFL prospect can be.  He has the size, the instincts, the physicality to play MLB in the NFL, and play it well.  He’s a day 1 starter for sure, and I believe he will be a 3 down LB that can and will drop into coverage in the NFL and do it well.  I know our secondary was likely our biggest weakness last year, we were torched through the air, but I believe that Reggie Ragland makes more of an impact this year and probably next season too than say Vernon Hargreaves, Mackensie Alexander, Shaq Lawson, Kevin Dodd.  Oddly enough, I think the one player that could make as much as of an impact the next 2 years is not on the defensive side, but it’s Ohio St. RB Ezekiel Elliott.  It’s obvious we wanted a RB, and we missed out on CJ Anderson when super genius Wile. Coyote, er John Elway matched our offer.  I think “Zeke” would likely share carries with incumbent RB Jay Ajayi, but would really solidify the position, which is now real thin with the heavily used and potentially “bone on bone” knee of Ajay, and then Damien Williams as depth.  It’s definitely a position of need, and one where a top RB like Zeke would make a huge impact immediately.

SO , if we do draft Regggie Ragland, what do we do with newly acquired Kiko Alonso?  I say give him a shot at WOLB, where Jelani Jenkins resides, and we can actually have some competition at LB, with some quality players for a change.  At SOLB, let Koa Misi and 2nd year LB Neville Hewitt fight it out, or as I suggested on the blog often, throw Jenkins in the mix at SLB too if Alonso wins that battle.  I don’t want to hear that we’d have too many LB’s, that’s silly talk.  We’d have some depth for a change, and make that quality depth.  If Vigil, Hewitt and Alonso and/or Jenkins are the backups, doesn’t that mean we have some real good players ahead of them?  That’s how i feel, and as many have mentioned on our blog, we’re kind of in a 1-2 year window with Suh and Tannehill, and that means a win now mentality.  If our LB’s aren’t tackling, we aren’t winning.  Much like if our O-line is protecting Tannehill, we aren’t winning, but I’ll save that for another day and another article.

C’mon, think of the upside of drafting Ragland . . .   We can have an aqua and orange Reggie bar!  The stands can chant “Reggie!, Reggie!, Reggie!” every time he stops a 3rd and short conversion attempt, or blows up a TE over the middle trying to convert a 3rd and 7.

DRAFT REGGIE!  Just do it!

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    • My list:
      Vontarrius Dora, DE, LaTech; Nick Vanhoose, CB, Northwestern; Kenneth Farrow, RB, Houston; Stephane Nembott, OT, Colorado; Adarius Barnes, CB, LaTech; Brian Poole, CB, Florida; Silverberry Mouhon, DE, Cincinnati; Mike Jordan, CB, Missouri Western; Tevaun Smith, WR, Iowa; Dom Williams, WR, Wash St.

  1. Al in MIA says:

    Regarding LB, the Fins reportedly showed interest in VT’s Dadi Nicolas

  2. Al in MIA says:

    off to lunch!

  3. D says:

    More and more i look at Michael Thomas from USM, the more it think he would make a great later round WR. 6-2 200lbs 4.48 40. put up great numbers in an anemic offense at USM.

  4. getterdone says:

    Has Wisconsin had their pro day yet?
    I really like Joe Schobert too. He’s a guy who’s displayed versatility in both rushing the passer, run stuffing, & does well in coverage. He can play inside as well. He’s a guy I’d get in the mid-rounds and groom.

  5. getterdone says:

    Tim if both Alonso & Maxwell can stay healthy, then they will definitely contribute & make for some good production, and at times big plays.

    • Tim Knight says:

      The article just goes to show you that management doesn’t just do stuff that makes no sense and they don’t even think things through. That tends to be the first reaction people have and it’s always silly. LOL

      • BoulderPhinfan says:

        and they had to go to Ross for approval. I know we argued about that before. Ross is involved in the FA signings.

  6. Tim Knight says:

    GD, do you still have an Anderson avi? LOL

  7. Tim Knight says:

    Boulder, Ross approves everything. I never argued that. I argued that he doesn’t seek out FAs.

  8. getterdone says:

    Boulder, most big moves will usually get every NFL owners input….sheesh.
    Tbomb, Grier, Gase, & VJ had to sell it to him. He bought it.

    The trade also gives the luxury of drafting either the best ILB or OLB when the BPA scenario comes up for that position in a given round. Same with a CB, or DE now with the Mario & Branch signings. Even the OL now has some flexibility when it comes to drafting this April.

    The FA moves helped fill both a possible need for some starters as well as some depth roles. Thus opening up the draft to freely pick who really jumps out at everyone in the war room during each round, especially the crucial early ones.

    Not a bad plan at all so far. Refreshing to see a different strategy vs. last offseason. Shows these guys are brainstorming and not stuck in one mode of operation.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Well said. That’s what Grier said they wanted to do.

      • getterdone says:

        Thanks, I appreciate it. This should be an exciting draft as we fill the team out. Look fwd to the mini-camps as well.
        Wanna see Gase start putting his stamp on this team as soon as possible.

  9. getterdone says:

    This is a guy many of us liked last year. 6’1 236…you don’t have to be 250 to play MLB in a 4-3.
    Hicks wasn’t exactly a speedster either from what I remember & had some flaws in reads & coverages. Looks like a year in the pros has done him some good.
    __________________________________
    Mar 23
    The Eagles envision Jordan Hicks as their starting middle linebacker.
    A 2015 third-round pick, Hicks emerged as the Eagles’ best linebacker as a rookie before his season ended with a torn pectoral. He’ll be an every-down player in Jim Schwartz’s scheme. The Eagles plan to use Mychal Kendricks at weak-side linebacker with Nigel Bradham at SAM.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Wedge featured Jordan Hicks last year

      And Al liked him a lot too

      • getterdone says:

        Who’s Al?
        Also of note, Hicks came into the draft as an OLB. It’s why I’ve looked at some of the OLB’s in this draft as possible candidates to move inside in case Alonso can’t play or is best suited outside. Pays to have a versatile skill set.

    • Tim Knight says:

      6-1 and basically 240 isn’t small. I question guys who have slim frames or barely weigh 230

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I remember reading he was smaller than that last year

        But I don’t remember
        He also had some injurie issues in college

        Goes to show you about the draft
        Everyone is obsessed with talking about the weaknesses of these players

        Here is a guy who is starting in year 2

        I liked Hicks a lot
        But I thought he would be a day 3 pick the way people were talking about him predraft

  10. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, the draft is definitely not an exact science.

    • getterdone says:

      Nope, surrounding talent, depth chart, injuries, coaching & scheme can mean so much to a young player making an impact or going by the wayside.

    • no, it’s not, but we’ve been down this road before tim and you’ve seen the players that were available when we selected the guys we selected and the difference between what we got vs what we could have had. Like I keep saying, “superior evals result in superior talent” and we weren’t even close to having superior evals. In addition, we drafted for need instead of increasing the talent level on the team by taking the better players and there’s NO arguing with the results.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I wasn’t really saying anything contrary to that. I think Hickey actually drafted pretty well and could prove to have drafted really well in a year or two.

  11. The Flying Pig says:

    Al in Miami (formerly Al in NJ)

    The toxic avenger!!!!

    GDP – are you going senile
    He posted within the last few hours😛

  12. getterdone says:

    BTW, I’m just bustin on OD too. He’s a GREAT guy. A rare coin that one…lol
    I’ve had the pleasure of meeting him twice. Got to appreciate his passion for the game as well as most sports.

  13. The Flying Pig says:

    Agree the draft isn’t a science

    But to a certain extent people on these blogs could probably do a better job than some one like Ireland😗

    I know that’s a bold statement
    But often times the day after the draft, you can read other teams drafts (like Pitt) and see multiple players discussed on this and other blogs pre draft

    Then you look at ours (especially during Ireland years) and are like WTF?

    I thi k the important thing to realize about the draft is that these players are somewhat over analyzed during the build up to the draft

    So we start hearing “he’s a 3-4 OLB”
    “He’s not a good athlete”
    “He’s undersized”
    “He missed tackles”
    “He runs too upright”
    ” he ate a marijuana brownie on spring break”

    And all of the sudden it’s – pass

    Some of these guys can just play football!

    And like I keep saying – they all have warts
    You have to steer clear of all the nonsensical bs sometimes

    • The thing is to block out all of the noise from the “experts” and take a really good look at the player and how they play the game. That’s the only way to come to a conclusion. Some guys I know picks players based on stats. They look at sacks, hurries, int’s, tackles, tfl’s and that’s it. No tape to go off but that’s how they form an opinion on a player. Plus, you’ve got the hype during the games you watch during the season. But, when you separate the hype and just look at a player in a complete game and watch what the player does you get a better feel for what they can do. If you click on my name above you’ll see that I talk about it with Tapper. He played a DE in a 3-4 scheme but he was undersized. If you project him as a 3-4 DE in the NFL and that’s what you base your opinion on you’re not going to like him as much as if you look at him as being a 4-3 DE at the next level. You look at a guy like Jared Crick who’s in the same situation with Houston. Undersized DE in a 3-4. Put him in a 4-3 and let him use his speed and quickness and you can see a different player.

  14. getterdone says:

    NFL Media senior analyst Gil Brandt compared LSU OLB Deion Jones to Buccaneers LB Lavonte David.
    “[Jones is] very athletic and quick,” Brandt noted. “He needs to get stronger and I think he will.” The analyst isn’t just a bit smitten, though. He’s downright been bit by the love bug when it comes to the 6-foot-1, 222-pounder, calling Jones one of his favorite players in the entire draft pool and vowing that the LSU product will “start and play on all downs in the NFL.” Brandt’s comparable here is former Nebraska LB Lavonte David, who was drafted by the Bucs with pick No. 58 in the second round in 2012.

  15. getterdone says:

    Speaking of throw Belicheat from the train:
    NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell confirmed the Patriots will not get back their first round pick.
    As expected, but this is a follow up on Patriots owner Robert Kraft stating he wrote a strongly worded letter to the commissioner requesting the pick be returned. The Patriots added the No. 60 overall selection to their purse in the trade of Chandler Jones, and also own pick No. 61 in the second round.

  16. Tim Knight says:

    Lou, if you take the word or words off after .jpg it will post visually.

  17. D says:

    The draft is not an exact science, but i think the biggest part is misconception that a player is pick x talent for every team. That same player could have drastically different grades dependent on his skill set to match a desired position fill on a team. There could be plenty of 3-4 teams with a certain guy on the top of his board, other 3-4 teams might have him lower/higher, and even more dramatically different he might be considered for a 4-3 in a different spot, again with potentially higher or lower rating for any given team.

    Also there is a lot of fan reaction to what makes for a great player/addition to the team, and in short, we have no idea really what player fits the team best. These are just a few reasons you can like a player, or dislike one for whatever reasons you may but trust they pick the player when they feel is best, they know if spending a pick is worth it to them and we just need to learn to accept it. People threw a shit fit over Jordan Phillips last year, but what we saw of him looked pretty good.

    Im not saying we will like every pick, im not saying every pick works out just like they thought they would but doesnt really matter does it, pretty sure they still wont be able to hear us scream out the pick through the TV and pretty sure their big board will be wildly different than ours, and pretty sure they wont stop to take an opinion poll before making the selection, so you have to ultimately just let it play out.

    • I didn’t throw a fit over Phillips. Had him as the 2nd best DT in the draft and a first rd pick.

    • And that’s why I say, block out the noise, stop reading what the “experts” have to say about a player and take a long, hard look at them yourself rather than taking someone else’s word for it. Mike E posted Lee’s “weaknesses” according to NFL.com earlier and I can care less about what they’ve got to say. They are wrong about players just as often as anyone else and they hype guys more than anyone. It’s their business.

  18. D says:

    getterdone says:
    March 23, 2016 at 4:39 pm
    Speaking of throw Belicheat from the train:
    NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell confirmed the Patriots will not get back their first round pick.
    As expected, but this is a follow up on Patriots owner Robert Kraft stating he wrote a strongly worded letter to the commissioner requesting the pick be returned. The Patriots added the No. 60 overall selection to their purse in the trade of Chandler Jones, and also own pick No. 61 in the second round.
    —————————————
    Didnt Kraft call a press conference to say he wouldnt fight the penalties laid down by Goodell? Now all of sudden in the last hour he is pulling a plea to get them back. Show a spine man, you said you werent going to bitch so stop being one by going back on your word.

    • Al in MIA says:

      Goodell is a funny man. The thing is, the Patriots pre-emptively agreed to a loss of a pick ahead of any decision from Roger on the matter but when punishment was ultimately served the Patriots felt that their gesture (admission of some problem and dock of a pick) wasn’t appreciated judging by the punishment Roger gave then they proceeded to go to court. After the courts found huge inconsistencies on the part of the NFL’s investigation and findings, Kraft has tried to go back and undo everything including undoing a punishment he voluntarily agreed to LOL

      • Tim Knight says:

        The Pats and Brady are losing the appeal and Brady is likely to be suspended for 4 games this year.

  19. Al in MIA says:

    I’m tired of hearing about Ragland.
    He closed out his career at Bama recording only 5 total tackles.
    The game before vs Michigan State? 4! 4 FUCKING TACKLES!

    • Al in MIA says:

      er, he had 7 vs Michigan state (5 solo)…vs Clemson he had 4 solo… BLAH, fuck Ragland :/

      • getterdone says:

        I’m not sold either when you look at the quickness of a guy like say Alonso when he played the middle. Nice all around game. I don’t see no Alonso in Raghead.

  20. The Flying Pig says:

    Today I unfollowed Lamar Miller on Twitter 😥

  21. Al in MIA says:

    ProLou,
    I’m no fan of PFF’s conclusions from their own grading system but they have a methodology that qualifies, without context, a player’s play throught the game.
    Ogbah rated very high vs Ole Miss but largely through a volume of work in the 2nd half when the game was out of hand. That’s the context part but in numerous parts of the game, Ogbah was lining up at LDE and not RDE over Tunsil. I looked at the video that shows all the snaps Ogbah took that game and he was able to put pressure on the QB often which is why he got a high grade from PFF for that game. As for his effort vs Kstate, that was two years ago and irrelevant to me but against Baylor this year, he had a sack and forced a fumble which he recovered so that’s not exactly stoning anyone.

    • Al in MIA says:

      I do see the limitations in his game but the biggest thing to me is his motor which can’t be taught. He brings effort and just needs some refinement in his approach to rushing an OT.

    • getterdone says:

      I like him & what Dodd has done in a short time. They’ll both only get better. The athleticism is there for a higher ceiling. Dood seemed to get stronger as the game wore on vs. Bama. I like his motor, hand fighting, and push.

    • Al in MIA says:

      Ogbah recorded a sack in every game last year except vs Texas Christian & Mississipi (sack in 11 out of 13 games); in 2014 he had a sack in 7 out of 13 games.

    • Al in MIA says:

      Yep, my bad, against Kstate he had 6 tackles, 2.5 for a loss and 1 sack and 1 pass defended. That’s not a stoning 🙂

  22. The Flying Pig says:

    Oh Kraft

    I didn’t realize your words were so…..
    …so
    ….so strong

    Here take your first round pick back

    Great letter
    Nice penmanship Bobby….

  23. D says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    March 23, 2016 at 5:03 pm
    I didn’t throw a fit over Phillips. Had him as the 2nd best DT in the draft and a first rd pick.
    ————————————————-
    Yeah i didnt mean you in particular, just kinda using that as showing, we as fans dont always know why they target who they do when they do, i also had Phillips rated high, nd i was ok with the pick, i just didnt think we would select a DT so early.

  24. D says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    March 23, 2016 at 5:03 pm
    I didn’t throw a fit over Phillips. Had him as the 2nd best DT in the draft and a first rd pick.
    ————————————————-
    Yeah i didnt mean you in particular, just kinda using that as showing, we as fans dont always know why they target who they do when they do, i also had Phillips rated high, and i was ok with the pick, i just didnt think we would select a DT so early.

  25. Al in MIA says:

    getterdone says:
    March 23, 2016 at 5:09 pm

    I like him & what Dodd has done in a short time. They’ll both only get better. The athleticism is there for a higher ceiling. Dood seemed to get stronger as the game wore on vs. Bama. I like his motor, hand fighting, and push.

    —–
    Agree on Dodd. What he does with his hands at the point of attack is very nice.

  26. BoulderPhinfan says:

    gdp,
    every move looks like a great move in march. Let’s wait till December then decide if going back to 13 and getting these two was worth it. One thing I’ve learned, if something seems too good to be true it usually is 🙂

  27. Al in MIA says:

    I’m not sure why people keep saying that Floyd can’t be a 4-3 DE with his frame.
    Worked just fine for JT who weighed in at 244 lbs and measured 6′-6″ during his pre-draft days (exactly what Flody is now). The idea then with JT was that a 6-6 frame can take on additional weight (part of the thought with Dion FF) but the key difference here is the brain of the two. One took his talent for granted (Dion FF) and the other (Floyd) doesn’t seem to have the same red flags. Mark Richt has been far superior as well in developing NFL front 7 players than Chip has.

  28. Al in MIA says:

    uwantwat says:
    March 23, 2016 at 1:04 am

    Conklin @ 13 = job done.

    Better than Ragland at 13 that’s for sure.
    LG taken care of for 2016 and a backup for Albert at same time.

  29. getterdone says:

    BoulderPhinfan says:
    March 23, 2016 at 5:16 pm
    gdp,
    every move looks like a great move in march. Let’s wait till December then decide if going back to 13 and getting these two was worth it. One thing I’ve learned, if something seems too good to be true it usually is 🙂
    Reply

    C’mon man. Same can be said without the trade and picking the wrong guy @ #8. Even if we pick the right guy @ #8 or #13, they’ll be a rookie needing to learn.
    In the meantime we picked up 2, count them, 2 vets that have shown very good starter potential in the recent past & both are still young.
    How’s that a bad thing when we had holes there? We cut Grimes, Brice McCain, Sheppard, Paysinger. Are those 2 vets we acquired in trade not as good or potentially an upgrade?

    So yeah, be sour milk now vs. the ughe in Dec if ya want….lol 😉

  30. Al in MIA says:

    I’m out for now
    Let’s continue the draft prospect bitch fest tomorrow 🙂

  31. D says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 13: Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 11: Jonathan Bullard, DE/DT, Florida (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 10: Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 9: Deion Jones, OLB, LSU (A)
    Round 5 Pick 8: Paul Perkins, RB, UCLA (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 11: Alex Lewis, OT, Nebraska (B-)
    Round 7 Pick 6: Mike Thomas, WR, Southern Mississippi (A)
    Round 7 Pick 10: Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida (A+)

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Nice
      Hargreaves and Deion Jones
      I can live with that

      Bullard is a good DE
      but I don’t think we need to draft one
      maybe that is a good sport for a Rb like Alex Collins or Jordan Howard

      • getterdone says:

        NFL Films’ Greg Cosell believes Arkansas RB Jonathan Williams is in the same tier as Ohio State’s Ezekiel Elliott.
        Just to refresh your memory, Williams missed the entire 2015 season and Senior Bowl with a foot injury, so there is an “injury factor” at play here. “I think he’s a little quicker, laterally, than Elliott,” Cosell began when discussing Williams. “He has all the traits… to function well in an NFL environment.” Needless to say, this is high praise. Williams split carries with Alex Collins during his time at Arkansas, and most believe Collins is the superior prospect.

  32. D says:

    Al in MIA says:
    March 23, 2016 at 5:24 pm
    I’m not sure why people keep saying that Floyd can’t be a 4-3 DE with his frame.
    Worked just fine for JT who weighed in at 244 lbs and measured 6′-6″ during his pre-draft days (exactly what Flody is now). The idea then with JT was that a 6-6 frame can take on additional weight (part of the thought with Dion FF) but the key difference here is the brain of the two. One took his talent for granted (Dion FF) and the other (Floyd) doesn’t seem to have the same red flags. Mark Richt has been far superior as well in developing NFL front 7 players than Chip has.
    —————————————-
    I have been saying the same thing, i think Flloyd would be great at DE for us, or SAM for that matter.

  33. steveccnv says:

    Floyd is a little raw and plays light (in a bad way), but has a good motor and great potential. Several times his teammates tell him where to line up. I like him, but not sure about at #13.

    http://draftbreakdown.com/video/leonard-floyd-vs-alabama-2015/

  34. Mike E. says:

    WTG D! Henry in the 3rd baby! If you drafted Ragland in the 1st RD, we coulda had a “REGGIE” bar and an “OH HENRY” bar too! 🙂

    • steveccnv says:

      If we haven’t already taken Zeke in the first I’m pretty sure Henry won’t get past our pick in the second, unless we get someone before the draft.

      An article I read today said Gase isn’t too high on Ajayi, even though he recently endorsed him. The thought was, since Gase said he wants another RB to split the load, that Jay can’t be a starting back. Amazing what people take from what others say, ridiculous as it sounds.

  35. Tim Knight says:

    I have to say I like a lot of prospects at #13 so I can’t really narrow it down. It should be fun seeing who we end up with. Even all the bitching that goes with it. LOL

  36. steveccnv says:

    getterdone says:

    March 23, 2016 at 6:30 pm

    NFL Films’ Greg Cosell believes Arkansas RB Jonathan Williams is in the same tier as Ohio State’s Ezekiel Elliott.
    ———————————
    Cosell needs to get his eyes checked. Williams is a decent college RB, but that’s about it. He reminds me of Fred Flintstone and his tiny little steps.

  37. steveccnv says:

    Mike, you avatar looks like the monster truck Doomsday.

  38. getterdone says:

    Four-star WR Keyshawn Johnson Jr. verbally committed to Nebraska.
    Johnson is the No. 37 receiver in the country. You know his famous father, the No. 1 overall pick in the 1996 NFL draft, but you also know his (less so) famous cousin, Michael Thomas, the former wide receiver at Ohio State who is currently auditioning for NFL teams. Mike Riley’s Huskers fended off basically the entire country to land Johnson Jr. He bested Keyshawn Sr.’s alma mater USC, Thomas’ alma mater Ohio State and a who’s-who list of luminaries consisting of Alabama, Clemson, Florida State, Miami, Tennessee and UCLA, amongst others.
    ________________________
    Damn, looks just like his daddy & Serena Williams 😉

  39. steveccnv says:

    Now Kiper and Todd McShay are bashing our moves. We’ve spent lots of money the past several yrs in FA and it didn’t work out so good. The team is now going in a different direction, by not spending big in FA. I guess we just can’t win, we get bashed for spending big and for not spending big.

    Instead of signing a top CB in FA, one that would’ve cost $30M or so guaranteed and at least $10M per yr with lots of dead money possible, if it didn’t work out, we trade to get Maxwell on a sort of 1 or 2 yr trial basis, so if he doesn’t pan out we can cut ties next yr, but it will cost $5M in dead money or free and clear the following yr. I take this as a good approach to minimize the risk. I really don’t get why the national media hates this move. Just kidding, I do know why. It’s easy to bash someone when they do something out of the box. People don’t like what they don’t understand,

  40. sb7mvp says:

    Who cares what people say about this team? Heck I don’t even care about most of the things said on this blog. Lol.

  41. The Flying Pig says:

  42. Mike E. says:

    Steve

    That’s some seriously noisy shit bro! 🙂

    BTW – That was Hunter Henry, the TE, not the RB Derrick Henry in D’s draft

  43. Tim Knight says:

    Guys if you go to miamidolphins.com there’s a bunch of video of Gase at the owner’s meetings. Enjoy!

  44. Tim Knight says:

    LOL @ Gase on the Walt Aikens moving to CB question. It’s early in this video.
    http://www.miamidolphins.com/multimedia/videos/Gase_Discusses_RBs_Defense/54b4b95d-f324-454e-8f72-6eaf94220ed7

    • steveccnv says:

      What a concept, he said we’re going to use guys that play to their strengths. Philbin? anyone? anyone? Philbin?

  45. steveccnv says:

    March 23, 2016 at 7:31 pm

    getterdone says:

    March 23, 2016 at 6:30 pm

    NFL Films’ Greg Cosell believes Arkansas RB Jonathan Williams is in the same tier as Ohio State’s Ezekiel Elliott.
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    Cosell needs to get his eyes checked. Williams is a decent college RB, but that’s about it. He reminds me of Fred Flintstone and his tiny little steps.
    _________________________
    Williams also didn’t have 10 ft holes to run thru like Elliot did. Two places running backs come from you need to really do your homework on: 1. Alabama 2. Big Ten

    • steveccnv says:

      I didn’t look at any stats, just the eye test. Zeke hits the hole right now with power, Williams pussyfoots around, and is weak at point of contact, there’s no comparison.

      • yeah, but Zeke can hit the hole full force when there’s one blown wide open for him. I can run thru the holes he runs thru. Most of the huge runs he had were because his offensive line blew open huge holes for him to run thru. That’s not going to happen in the NFL. When they didn’t, you see a lot of the short runs; 2 yds, 3 yds, runs for no gain. he’s human.

      • steveccnv says:

        I’m not looking at how many yrds Zeke got on any given play, I’m looking at what he does in general. He’s hard to bring down, he’s decisive, and when he’s running through a big hole he hits it right now. I can generally tell in the first few plays, if a player has value to the Fins, but not always. I watched a tape someone here posted a couple of days ago of a DE (don’t remember who he was), and the entire first half I was thinking and why do you like this guy (referring to whoever posted it), then in the second half, it was like night and day he got 3 sacks and was disruptive.

        The first play I saw Matt Ryan in his bowl game his last yr at BC, he had a rush coming and he threw a 15 yrd pass to a WR that looked clueless, the pass was incomplete, but the way Matt showed pocket presence, arm strength, and overall field awareness I knew he’d be a good pro.

      • well, the only thing I can say is if you put Zeke behind the offensive line the Phins have had the past 2 yrs he wouldn’t have much success. When there’s no hole for him to run thru he’s just as ineffective as every other rb I’ve ever seen.

    • just so you know, I didn’t mean you personally when I said “you” above. I meant the scouts.

      • steveccnv says:

        I didn’t take it that way, I actually had to go back to see what you were referring to.

  46. uwantwat says:

    My thoughts on the trade. 3 starters for dropping down 5 places, yes please, every day of the week.
    Will probably get the same player @13 we would have taken @ 8. Talking Heads are morons. Ignore them. Most are midgets or fat bastards anyway.

  47. The Flying Pig says:

    ILB DARRON LEE
    OHIO STATE
    42: R2P11
    G JOSHUA GARNETT
    STANFORD
    73: R3P10
    CB WILL REDMOND
    MISS. STATE
    108: R4P9
    DE CHARLES TAPPER
    OKLAHOMA
    148: R5P8
    RB KENYAN DRAKE
    ALABAMA
    187: R6P11
    OT SPENCER DRANGO
    BAYLOR
    228: R7P6
    ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ
    STANFORD
    232: R7P10
    S DEON BUSH
    MIAMI (FLA.)

    I never like the way it works out when I take a LB in the 1st
    😞

  48. uwantwat says:

    It’s an omen Piggy stop taking LB in the 1st.

  49. Tim Knight says:

    There’s a lot of good off the cuff stuff in those Gase videos. One thing that he was really consistent with him was how the CBA rules restricts his ability to even talk football with his players. He’s dying to work with them but they can’t even discuss their jobs. It’s pretty stupid. Dumb friggin union laws strike again. Totally unproductive.

  50. olddolphan says:

    UWANTWAT SAYS:”Talking heads are morons. Ignore them. Most of them are midgets or fat bastards, anyway.” Now wait just a minute there, Mr. UK. The terms “morons, midgets and fat bastards” ARE RESERVED IN THESE PARTS FOR JET FANS!!! –Y’all got that, now??
    ———————
    And Tim; I understand your frustration with the CBA. But remember this. That agreement was signed by geniuses such as Bob Kraft, Jerry Jones and Steve Ross whose paid legal eagles negotiated the terms of said agreement. At least half of your anger should be directed at management!!!
    ——————–
    A writer for ESPN has published an article which lists the worst stadiums in each of the major college football conferences. Anybody want to guess WHICH STADIUM he selected as the worst stadium in the ACC?????? – – If you guessed “Sun-Baked Stadium” YOU’D BE RIGHT!! – – And that’s AFTER all the “improvements” are taken into consideration. –You’l no doubt be equally surprised that I’ll DEFEND STEVE ROSS a little bit from this unfair description of the home field of the Canes and Fins.. That said, there’s no doubt many, many, media types (some of whom are morons, midgets, and fat bastards) consider Sun-Baked one of the lower echelon stadiums in the NFL. That said, the State of Georgia has past a law (on “religious freedom”) whose effect will allow the city of Atlanta NOT to hire gays/lesbians on any aspect of the new NFL Stadium construction project. If the governor signs that bill into law, the NFL is expected to black ball the city’s bid to host a future Super Bowl. Such an event would virtually GUARANTEE that Steve Ross’s edifice WILL BE AWARDED one of the next 3 Super Bowls that are up for bids.
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    The Old Dolfan is out!

  51. uwantwat says:

    UWANTWAT SAYS:”Talking heads are morons. Ignore them. Most of them are midgets or fat bastards, anyway.” Now wait just a minute there, Mr. UK. The terms “morons, midgets and fat bastards” ARE RESERVED IN THESE PARTS FOR JET FANS!!! –Y’all got that, now??
    ==================================================
    You are correct to one point you make, Jets fans are exactly that, it goes without saying. Now to discuss your errors.
    #1 I ‘m an AUSTRALIAN get that right MATE. To clarify I’M A FAIR DINKUM ONE, 3RD GENERATION in fact. A freakin Pommie I am not. Got it?
    #2 Every country in the world uses the terms morons,midgets and fat bastards to describe people who are mentally challenged,vertically challenged and weight challenged people born out of wedlock.
    Now I have deiced to waive my usual fee for educating you because obviously you need to GET IT.

    • olddolphan says:

      Flattery will get you nowhere. By the way, just WHO is on the “heads” side of your coinage? Could it be QUEEN ELIZABETH???

  52. uwantwat says:

    Yes and so it should be, after she is our head of state. Her representative here in Australia is the Governor-General.
    All this shows is we have a real Queen and not a pretend one like USA will have when Hilary wins the election.
    The best part is we don’t have to spend billions of Dollars to have her.
    I feel sad for your country where it comes down to money to elect a pretend King/Queen.

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