We’ve talked about it for a long time, in fact, some of us started talking about it before we drafted last year, in the 2015 NFL draft. It never stops. The NFL Draft, the place where dreams are either realized, or crushed. There is always hope, always, because where else can you bring in new, young talent, and the potential to bring in 8 or more new faces to your team in one weekend. This only happens with the NFL, and then after the draft, even more excitement is generated by the signing of players who went undrafted. Sometimes, a player who was expected to be a mid round pick falls completely off the draft board, or in last year’s case, a possible top 10 pick, like La’el Collins, who due to bizarre circumstances with a murder case he had no part in yet was being questioned by police, had all 32 teams wipe him right off their draft boards.
Tomorrow will begin the madness that is the 2016 NFL Draft. The Miami Dolphins currently hold 8 picks, starting from the #13 pick, #42, #73, #107, #147, #186, #227, and finally #231. There is no guarantee that the Dolphins will use all those picks to get 8 players, they may trade up early in the 1st RD and use 2 or 3 picks to accomplish that. They may trade back later in the into the 1st RD, and gain a couple of picks. There are so many angles from which to look at either strategy, and a case can be made for both, without either of them being necessarily wrong or right. For instance, supposedly, this draft plateaus from approximately pick #15 to pick #50, meaning the talent at #50 is nearly equal to the talent at #15. We pick at #13, right around that imaginary line, so would trading back to pick up a couple of extra players in that range be smart? Sure. If all the supposed blue chippers are in the top 10, does it not make sense to trade up and get a superior talent and a player with a greater chance of making a big impact on our team right now? Sure.
Whatever we do tomorrow, partly because of past failures, such as the Dion Jordan trade up to #3 in 2013, or just because of personal preferences, some of us will be angry at some of the selections we make, and yet others will be ecstatic. That’s how it is. I have to give all you guys/girls lots of credit for your dedication to the sport, and especially the entire draft process. I know many of you tirelessly watch college football to find potential for the Miami Dolphins, and others, like myself, who don’t watch college ball, scour as many scouting reports, watch highlight reels, record and watch the entire week of Senior Bowl practices and the game itself, the same with the NFL combine. The funny thing is, even the best of the best here, who really put in max effort, most likely don’t put in a fraction of the time our scouting staff put in, and our coaches and our GM put in. Granted, that’s their job, we do it for (fun?). Still, we should all probably just chill out with the negative feelings (I know I will have them), because these guys really did put in the effort to make the team better, and hopefully, it actually works.
I’m going to give you my picks for each round, without trade ups or trade downs, because those are just too hard to predict, it requires a lot of cooperation and desire from another team or two, and therefore, I’ll just do it straight up. This draft is not who I want for our team, it’s how I expect it to happen.
RD 1 – Pick #13 RB Ohio State – Ezekiel Elliott
First of all, let’s put that myth that if he’s elite, he’ll be gone by pick #10 nonsense, and if he’s not, he’ll be there. Great NFL players are chosen all over the place, and these selections are made by a few parameters, GRADE, NEED (at a certain position) and VALUE. Every team will have different metrics on those, and many teams obviously have different needs for both position, and the type of players they want to fill those positions. For example, while Vernon Hargreaves may be rated very high on most boards, a team that prefers bigger CB’s may not have him on their board early at all. So back to Elliott. He would most definitely be our best RB if he were to join our team.
Much has been made of Adam Gase’s use of a “running back by committee”. I think it’s only fair to look at each situation, and why that may have been. In Denver 2013, first off, Gase had Peyton Manning., who threw the ball 659 times for nearly 5500 yards. The Broncos drafted Montee Ball, and added him to a stable with Knowshown Moreno, Ronnie Hillman, and and CJ Anderson. Moreno carried the ball 241 times, more than double the carries Montee Ball got at 120 carries. Is that really a RB by committee? In 2014, again, Manning put up astronomical numbers, 597 pass attempts, over 4700 yards. With Knowshown Moreno out of the picture, and Montee ball fat and out of shape, and fumbling often, Gase had little choice to try and find the hot hand. CJ Anderson rushed 179 times, for 849 yards, and Ronnie Hillman 106 times, for 434. Keep in mind, Ronnie Hillman was the better 3rd down back, and most of his action was on 3rd down, but again, the RB by committee aspect doesn’t necessarily show up, because the talent just simply wasn’t there to earn the bulk of the carries.
In Chicago, 2015, Adam Gase had 30 YO Matt Forte, rookie Jeremy Langford, and 2nd YR RB Ka’Deem Carey. Just for some background, Forte has never really been a bellcow RB, the most carries he had in his career was his rookie season when had a high of 316 carries. He never broke 300 again, and has been slowly diminishing in carries the last few years, from 289 in ’13, to 266 in ’14, and last year 218. Langford carried 148 times, and Carey 43. Clearly, Forte was his best guy, but at 30 YO, he didn’t overwork him, and for the most part, Chicago’s offense was a disappointment, despite Jay Cutler playing at his most efficient, with 21 TD’s and only 11 INT’s. They sorely missed Brandon Marshall last season, and when Alshon Jeffery got hurt, that was it for this offense.
My point is, I don’t believe that Gase has a strategy to use his running backs nearly equally. I think he had to in Denver, out of necessity, and in Chicago, he didn’t want to burn out his 30 year old star in Matt Forte. Gase did say he wants a stable of RB’s, and I think that’s the responsible thing to do, considering what can happen if there’s a severe drop off in talent from your starter to your reserves. make no mistake, if we draft Ezekiel Elliott, he will clearly be our best RB, and we will use him as such. He will make a huge impact in our offense.
RD 2 – Pick #42 CB Houston – William Jackson III
We have a definite need at CB, no question about it, and we get the best we can in the 2nd RD. Jackson gives another 6 foot CB who can play both press and zone coverage. A good fit for what we’re looking for, Jackson will certainly be given every opportunity to start opposite Byron Maxwell.
RD 3 – Pick #73 OG Stanford – Joshua Garnett
As much as we need a CB, we need to shore up the interior OL. We get the powerful OG Garnett from Stanford. Garnett also will be given every opportunity to start somewhere on the OL, most likely LG, to compete with vet Jermon Bushrod. That will leave a battle royale at RG, with Billy Turner, Jamil Douglas, and Kraig Urbik .
RD 4 – Pick #107 OLB Akron – Jatavis Brown
Excellent athletic player, with wheels (4.47 40). Driven, team oriented player, lunch pail type of guy. A little undersized at 5’11” 227, but a great guy to bring into the mix at OLB.
RD 5 – Pick #147 S Miami – Deon Bush
Bush is a physical player who likes to hit, and when he does, forces fumbles. Bush forced 5 fumbles in 2014. He can also go up and get the ball with his 39 1/2″vertical. Bush has only 4 INT’s in 4 years, along with 13 passes defensed. Could be a good player down the line.
RD 6 – Pick #186 CB Virginia – Maurice Canady
Canady brings another CB with size to the team. Not a physical player, but a player with talent that perhaps VJ can bring out.
RD 7 – Pick #227 DE Baylor – Shawn Oakman
Oakman is probably worth a flier in the 7th RD. he could easily end up off the team before the season, but maybe, the light goes on, and he becomes a player. I’d take tht chance this late in the game.
RD 7 – Pick #231 WR Illinois – Geronimo Allison
OK, so I really just want to scream Genonimo!!!!!! Do I take a chance and try to sign him after the draft? No way!!!
D
I’m not buying into the idea that wake has been relegated to an role coming off the bench
But we will see how it plays out
Hey here is always jordan too….lol
I’m not even not buying, I’m flat out saying he won’t allow it to happen. You don’t put the work in he’s done, being that kind of star, to have the team move you to being a role player. What might prove this point is the fact that he wouldn’t take a pay cut and he’s still on the team.
Morrison gone 😦 Brothers still there right?
Lots of RBs left.
There goes Morrison an early fave of mine at ILB who ran too slow for me to take.
I bet we go CB next round, and It could be Canady
I def do not think we need another CB at all. Or at least not as bad as we need a LB or RB.
We’ll see. I think we do.
Jordan Howard is also still there if you want him for your shortyardage powerback right?
Son
Robinson just went off the board. There ya go!
He’s probably 2nd round talent and 6th round personality lol so 4th makes sense
Damn that guy is a giant
man it wasn’t a nightmare last night but on a positive note the sun did rise.
Is Alfred Morris still available? Hopefully some of the teams that drafted a CB early will cut a high priced aged veteran and we will be able to pick him up from the 8th spot.
Morris is in Dallas
Why would we want a guy who can’t catch with high mileage on his legs?
who do we have that can take a pounding between the tackles? Didn’t the fins try to get a back all off-season who could take a pounding between the tackles? Oh I forgot, we have Thomas again who we took several years ago in second round for several draft picks traded away.
shhhh Scooby is still there and has a higher grade than the last 6 LBs taken.
here’s hoping I didn’t jinx the pick if we want him.
Scooby, Brothers, or matakevich, worry on all 3 is they aren’t 3 down guys
They just need to be in there to thump the run then sit for the nickel dime pkgs.
Damn raves have 3 comp picks in this round
I want the bellringer from Germany.
Of course you do you commie foriegner 🙂
Shoot there goes Lewis to the Ravens who do really need a OT.
I’m surprised no one has a Tunsil in full mask avie
Seem like RB will be great value in the 5th we could add another imo…
yes let’s get a powerback to push the pile as a quasi FB and get rid of DT and Peeeed.
We don’t need a 3 down linebacker from the 5th round if he can make the team and get some reps and play good special teams then that’s a good pick
exactly but there goes one of my guys Martinez.
GB really needs him inside to free their stud back outside. Martinez INTs like you want a MLB to do.
6’4″ man mountain kicking those 5’9″ midget CBs. Yes please!
Brothers is an amazing linebacker. I don’t think he is that deficient in pass pro but that’s the consensus on him
Well if you want a FB don’t muck around get Gronk’s young bro.
ewwww the stench!!!!
naples:
who do we have that can take a pounding between the tackles? Didn’t the fins try to get a back all off-season who could take a pounding between the tackles? Oh I forgot, we have Thomas again who we took several years ago in second round for several draft picks traded away.
There are still a lot of DE options will similar grades out there as well if we feel the need to add more competition. I like Anthony Zettel as one of those guys.
Around The NFL @AroundTheNFL · 2m2 minutes ago
TRADE: Dolphins trade their No. 147 pick to Patriots for their Nos. 196, 204 and 250 picks
Let the bitching begin. LOL
My guess is our board is running dry and we see no difference in many of the prospects left so we added more picks to stock up.
A 5th for 2 late 6th RD and a late 7th RD
Why?
What I just said, everyone left has the same grade. I just looked at DL and there are a ton of guys with 5.2. 5.1 and 5.0 grades etc. We probably feel anyone we would pick in the 5th we can take in the 6th and 7th.
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Dolphins give up their 5th round pick for two 6th round picks and a 7th
Sources Tell Us “I hope Wright falls to us because I will do everything in my power to get him drafted. Make Zach Thomas your comp for him. They are the exact same guy.” — AFC East area scout
I don’t see it. Zach moved a lot better than Scooby.
I agree but it sounds like our scout said that.
So far all the cowboys fans I’ve seen during this draft have a simple jack feel to them
Caroo! Carroo! Carroo!
Where my conch
Waiting for the trade up to the top of the 5th!
someone is gonna get run out of town. This is beyond any of the previous stupid moves the team has done in it’s franchise history.God I was complimenting Taum less than 36 hours ago
How so?
every local sports news reporter already is rolling their eye’s concerning the picks after our 1st rounder.2 nd rounder instead of Henry that involved a trade CBGuy traded for isn’t any good to start this year. 3rd rounder RB from Alamba was back up to Henry and basically was injury prone during his college career, 4Th rounder traded away, 5th rounder traded away, next years 4th and 5 th rounder traded away.
Back from a half day of tutoring… just in time for 5th round soon. (since I didn’t miss anything in the 4th) 😦
You made it just in time to hear we don’t have a 5th anymore now
Ill go ahead and do it. So, we didn’t need all those super talented young guys…but we do need a bunch of camp fodder. Yeah. I have a weird idea. We could do better in FA and drafting young talent early and then have a bunch of comp picks like the pats every year instead of just trading away the early picks.
Or everyone left has the same grade. I just looked at DL and there are a ton of guys with 5.2. 5.1 and 5.0 grades etc. We probably feel anyone we would pick in the 5th we can take in the 6th and 7th and get the same value.
Drafts to tend to thin out and now it’s a lot of the same so stock up on some more. Teams do stuff like this for a reason, not just to piss fans off. LOL
Nothing makes my college days look more boring than watching the nfl draft and hearing all the “off field” issues
These guys are assholes
Wtf
Antonio Morrison was arrested for barking at a police dog
How can you be that big of a douche
Alcohol? I use to scream “Wake the fuck up” when we drove under over-passes to wake the homeless bums up when I got liquored up…
But it’s a doggie
How can you tease a face like this
What an asshole
Is it just me or does Jerry Jones look a little like dobby from Harry Potter
Comedy gold trying to catch up with all the comments from last night…smh!
We Traded our 5th to NE
At this point you are just drafting guys you like better
I don’t think it matters whether we have a 5th or 2 6ths
This place is a hoot! LMAO New name for Jones now. Dobby
I’ll wait to see who we miss out on before I bitch lol but u have a feeling it’s coming lol
I can’t believe jests hot Lee and Jenkins
Doing a good job revamping their LBs
The Dolphins must think the 7th round have some of the best players in the draft?
These are backup rounds so having more maybe makes sense. We need depth in a few spots
Ah Screw it!
Trade back up for Cash and Scooby!
Then I can take a nap!
All of the sudden my grade for this draft would go from “meh” to “weeeeeeeeeeee”
When Tannebaum trades down is that like coming down off a high
TB had an awesome draft outside the head scratcher with the kicker pick
Todd Bowles is probably awesome at funerals
I like the picks from 1st to 3rd round….all will be starters or see significant playing time except maybe Carroo….but he will be good, is a big chuck yardage guy should Stills get hurt or isn’t effective for some games.
Drake is a homerun threat from different spots on the field…..get the ball in his hands running it, catching it, or returning it….LOVE that pick…..makes us more explosive so we can have a scoring average over 24pts a game and be able to keep up with the rest of this high flying league!!!
Or when we go 4 wide it’s Landry, Parker, Stills and Carroo. I think Carroo is going to play. He can also give Landry a breather from time to time after a big play etc. They look like the same type of player.
Don’t try to get me excited about scooby just to see me cry when we pass guys
I know what you are trying to do
Scooby Scooby Doo Where are You?????????????????
Finally the RBs start coming off the board
Dixon and a booker gone !
Look at it like this, if we have a 6th and 7th rd grade on the rest of the 125 prospects or so, why not trade down and increase your chances that a few of them pan out as opposed to picking one of those guys in the 5th. So instead of having a 5th and two 7ths, we now have two 6ths and three 7ths. It’s like getting UDFAs early.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/tracker#dt-by-round-input:5/dt-tabs:dt-by-team/dt-by-position-input:dl/dt-by-team-input:mia
Because many of them that late can be UNDF
Or you get the same value in the 6th and 7th that you think would be there in the 5th. This happens all the time. Teams’ boards dry up and everyone left is the same grade.
Rishard Robinson broke into to another players home and stole stuff
Seriously….
Laptop
What a piece of shit
Last year we had Wake for less than half a season, OV, Shelby, Fede, McCain, Moore and Coples at DE. This year we have Wake (we’ll see about his status), Williams, Branch, Fede, McCain, Moore and a few others competing.
I don’t see why this year is more of a concern than last year. Jordan could also be back in the mix.
Patriots then turn around and trade our pick with Seattle,,
i wonder if we got more draft picks than NE? The way things unfolded this draft I wouldn’t be surprised
We traded with New England?
We gave them crabs
These fucking talking heads
They just said – honey badger cleaned up his act
So Robinson can
Honey badger had drug addiction issues
And he got past it
Robinson broke into a teammates house
Stop comparing these things
Wtf – I’ll hang with a drug addict anyway over a guy who breaks into my house
These guys have no morale compass I swear
It’s only a matter of time before someone makes an analogy between murder and testing a tag off the bed
Many drug addicts are also thieves just like folks who break into your house. A thief is a thief weather they break in or not. Nobody wants to be violated by a thief!
Then we are talking about a thief and not a drug addict
Judge each act for what it is
Honey badger never broke into some one’s hiuser and stole a laptop
He openly admitted to struggling with addiction
And he actually thought help before he even was drafted
But they just made an analogy to a guy who was arrested for breaking into a home a stealing a laptop
These talking heads have been really irresponsible in the way they talk about “off field” issues
Some things are for worse than others
Domestic violence (dragging a woman from an elevator) is substantially less moral than Smoking weed out of a gas mask
But the nfl didn’t hesitate to make ray rice comparisons
I have lost faith in the judgment of these talking heads
Fucking A THERE IS OUR 4TH ROUND FOR NEXT YEAR WE THREW AWAY AND BELECHEAT GETS IT FOR OUR PICK…..
how come they managed to get more than we got from them…Sounds like no one wants to deal with us maybe.
That is why I would never trade with a division rival makes no sense…
We just got belechick’d
How? LOL
We did what we did they did what they did. If we have a similar grade on everyone left what’s the big deal, we multiplied our chances on a oouple of guys panning out.
Why are you guys always looking to say we got fleeced? Really, in the almighty 5th rd? LOL
The Flying Pig says:
April 30, 2016 at 2:13 pm
Rishard Robinson broke into to another players home and stole stuff
Seriously….
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Yeah, I can’t blame him!!!! The campus police didn’t do anything to get the guy who stole his laptop, so he broke into the real thief’s apt and retrieved his own laptop that was stolen from him…yet he was made out as the criminal here…
Give me Rishard Robinson all day long. He’s gonna be a good player!
Really
It was his laptop?
Well Piggy if it makes you feel any worse we could have had Scooby or Cash?
I feel like very year “Mel’s best available” gets more and more inaccurate
Ya think!
So many here had Brothers, Westerman, & Jeremy Cash as 2nd rounders…lol. They’re still floating on the board.
Scooby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Once again we learn that people overrate prospects and teams view the talent pool differently. But it messes up fans’ draft boards and they can’t cope. LOL
Told you there would be good RB’s in the 5th!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe maybe not. They fell this far for a reason. The same thing happened last year and many of them did nothing.
Maybe some folks over value RB’s?
Thanks Piggy, you’re right… I forgot we traded the 5th too. 😦 Our roster is set now. All we’ll b e doing in 6th, 7th, and rookie FA is throwing shit against the wall and hoping something sticks.
Probably just projects
Anyone drafted now can make a push though
That’s the idea, our board dried up and what’s left is all the same so increase your chances will more options. A lot of people don’t understand that because some prospects were pounded into their brains as better than what they are on mock lists. Teams view it differently.
other than the 1st rounder this has been a train wreck the rest of the way….Very questionable calls after the 1st round.
BS
Yeah okay, you give no reasoning you just say it with empty statements.
so not true … Drake is a playmaker @ RB, passing game, and return game, Xavien is a big hitter with INTs and a perfect fit for our sticky press man, and Caroo is a Landry clone and who would not want 53 Landry clones on their team?
OK guys. we had the greatest draft in franchise history…I hope that makes everyone sleep better at night…
why is it either one extreme or the other?
Wtf vadal Alexander still on the board?!
Yep, he is….he’s sitting in McDonalds & Dunkin Donuts the past 2 days waiting for his name to be called.
I saw him ranked pretty low in some of those mocks we did too
Yes Piggy, from what I remember reading months ago, it was Robinson’s laptop he went to go get.
My only knock on him is thet he needs to add some more muscle weight.
Collins RB Cash S Vadal Alexander OG Wright LB and Jerrell Adams TE are some more that are still left from my Big Board.
Hope a few of them make it to our picks in the 7th.
Westerman out there still as well
After a night’s sleep, and a cup of coffee, I think a contribution to the disappointment on Day Two has a lot to do with the depth of pass rush talent that bloggers here have been drooling over since January. Four months of coveting defensive players, and eventually we had an offensive draft leaving everyone blue-balled. lol
Coaches must really believe in the FA, and plan on going defense in next year’s draft to start collecting the “replacements”.
I’m ok with it if under Gase we can start scoring 24+ points a game…Woooo Whooooo!
There were 22 defensive players drafted in the 2nd round (we got one)
There was a lot of defensive talent on day 2
And we chose not to exploit that
But I think we had a plan and stuck with that
If you watched what we did in FA it adds up.
Harlan Miller, cash, Collins
Friggin Hilarious!!!!!!
James R. Harrison @TheGrandstandUS 1h1 hour ago
Eagles fans actually drove to the airport to boo Carson Wentz before he even takes an NFL snap. That fanbase should be embarrassed.
Doug F’kin Pederson!?!?!?
They did the same thing to McNabb and they were wrong.
Howard to the Bears
Perkins now gone
So we have 3-6th and 3 -7th rounders right?
We should just trade so e of those oicks for picks in 2017
If I told you you could have 2 picks from what is left from a box of chocolates or 5 which would you want? You could nibble them all and spit out the nasty ones.
If could identify one as a chewy caramel then that word be my pick
Wendell Smallwood….he’s a good pick for the Eagles….I like his all around game.
His name was not meant for porn
LOL
Alter Jordan Howard’s style
Fuck off Mel
I want a RB who runs at people
LMAO, Browns have drafted like 4 receivers now…..
Colts desperatley adding to that OL of theirs to protect Schmuck.
about howard
“Howard had four picks last season and five the year before.
What’s more, quarterbacks had just a 32.4 passer rating in his coverage area, according to Pro Football Focus.
He allowed receptions on just 37.3 percent of his 75 targets, which is third-best among draft-eligible corners, PFF said. And he ran a 4.41 in the 40. But he did allow two TDs on vertical routes last season.”
He blows, sayeth the blog.
Lol no it wasnt
Meant for piggys porn comment above
Jonathan Williams to Bills, was someone I saw as a fallback plan for Fins. When he was healthy and got touches he was electric. But split carries too much.
piggy,
speaking of the idiot talking heads. i heard one of them saying about the pats trade and getting sea 4th next year. he said something like since it is next year it is devalued a round. if it was this year it would be a 3 so basically next year the pats got a 3 for what they traded to let sea move up.
?????????????????????????????????????????????
how in the world do these idiots get jobs.
Math for idiots
We’re not really in need of a RB. Ajayi and Drake are going to be the top 2 dogs like it or not. LOL
We can still add a tough between the tackles back to compete for a spot. Alfred Morris was a 6th rd pick, so was Terrell Davis. Priest Holmes wasn’t drafted and neither was Arian Foster. So there’s that. 🙂
good points. we still need more competition at the position for camp.
Well we have 6 backs on the roster now in Ajayi, Drake, Williams, DT3, Pead and Edwards.
I see us still signing a guy like Foster now after the draft, to give us a vet RB presence.
Maybe.
They give good BJs
That was for FFR
Smallwood was arrested in connection with a murder investigation
Cue the player who got over a jaywalking misdemeanor analogy
uwant,
for as stupid as they are it better come with a money shot too
I would still like to get Collins at RB. I think he would be so grateful he would run even harder.
I am still pissed off that we did not get Nkemdiche.
We had no chance.
He’s cancer & too many tall buildings in Miami.
Matakevich is still there at LB. Brothers too.
Brothers is gone now
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago
As of round 5, there has been strength in numbers:
Browns have drafted 4 WRs.
Lions have drafted 3 OL.
Panthers have drafted 3 CBs.
Eric Davis looks like the product of Whoopi Goldberg and a fraggle having a baby
LOL
Brothers gone and westerman
Broncos got an absolute steal with Booker in the fifth. This Bama kid and CB better be damn good.
Drake & Howard will be very good additions.
Booker is banged up.
I think Ravens did even better with 8 picks befoe the 5th and Dixon being one of them.
Jatavis brown still out there too
which is why I laughed every time someone here mocked him as a 3rd round pick.
Kevin Hogan to the Queefs….interesting.
uwant,
for as stupid as they are it better come with a money shot too
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I bet Kiper swallows too.
so glad we did not draft Booker.
So far this draft we have basically added::
OT(LG) Laremy Tunsil
MLB Kiko Alonso
CB Byron Maxwell
CB Xavien Howard
RB Kenyan Drake
WR Leonte Carroo
That’s about a 50/50 mix of defense & offense starter type material. I think this offseason will grow on you guys and go a long way to getting the Gas era off on the right foot!
I love the picks. Drake will be a huge weapon, think of a bigger better Percy Harvin that can run the ball too.
Carroo is a homerun threat too in case Stills doesn’t play well, or also to give Landry a rest.
Gase is an offensive minded HC/play caller.
He knows in this new NFL, and especially vs. the Pats, that we need to avg 24+ points a game.
I like this. Score more & the defense will be better for it & can be aggressive instead of Coyle passive!
Still is a FA next year so would also be an insurance policy for if he does have a good year and we can’t afford to resign him
Jatavis would be a fine 6th round guy kinda a poorer poor man’s Deion Jones
That is an outstanding draft.
Even though we didn’t get the kicker?
All the picks so far seem to be potentially big contributors.
I bet Kiper swallows too.
and what he cant swallow he uses as a hair gel
D, good point on Still in his final year of rookie deal….Carrooooooo
You know when you really like a player and you say, for example, “gee I wish we had more players like Landry”, well that’s what they did with Drake and Caroo. They should be nice additions to this team.
I like the Bears draft so far….and the Steelers secondary just got good again with Artie Burns & Sean Davis….yikes!
Browns on the clock for their 5th WR.
It’s their plan to resign Manziel. Put 7 WRs on the field, so Johnny douchebag can just chuck it in the air and hope it hits someone wearing the same color uni. 🙂
btw, I saw James Walker gave 28 of 31 first round picks a ‘thumbs up’… of course one of the three downs was the Fins pick. What is it about covering the Dolphins that brings out the hate in everyone. lol
son of a son of a shula says:
April 30, 2016 at 3:14 pm
Even though we didn’t get the kicker?
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Damn Bucs stole my man. However, I would have won my bet. He went before the end of the 3rd round. Small consolation though.
Good news he has a younger brother who is as good. There is hope still.
so now one values the draft that includes players traded for? well based on that shouldnt you deduct out the players they lost. or does that not help make the point of a great draft.
You make trades in the draft, up, down, & for players….it’s separate from FA losses & adds.
….and you call yourself an accountant….SMH!
Spencer Drango…good pick by the Brownies.
man, it’s a long, long time to get to the 6th round. I feel like Elaine watching The English Patient
Night folks, I have to get some sleep.
Sleep tight
So we traded away our 4th RD pick for (2) 6ths and a 7th, and the Patriots turn that into a 4th RD pick next year. WTF!
No! We traded our 5th for two 6ths and a 7th. Who cares what they did with the pick. It was Minnesota’s, not ours anymore. We already made our trade.
Whatever, 5th. Freaking Patriots capitalize on our pick nicely, and we wait 200 picks to go again.
One of the reasons we can get within four games of the Patriots is because of what happened today. We trade them a pick (cardinal sin to trade within the division), and they turn around and trade that pick for more than they have us. It’s just comical.
Cant
LOL – Look up ^
Haha! I saw that.
I WANT A FULL BACK!!!
I WANT A FULL RACK!!!
LOL @ Rhino on Manziel & the hail mary all 3 downs for Cleveland.
Drango and Collins gone
5th Mike
Seahawks just got Marshawn Lynch 2.0
Mike E. says:
April 30, 2016 at 3:24 pm
So we traded away our 4th RD pick for (2) 6ths and a 7th, and the Patriots turn that into a 4th RD pick next year. WTF!
mike you are wrong. one of the talking idiots said since it was next years 4 that means it is really devalued a round so it is like a third this year so basically the pats got a 3rd this year. and yeah he actually said that.
Its equivalent to a this year 5th
We traded our 4th as part of what we did to take Howard
LMAO, Browns take their 5th WR….
getter,
so i have this right in valuing a draft you can use trades but you cant use FA gains and losses. can you tell me which page that is on in the ‘how to evaluate a football draft’ book
There goes Fahn Cooper
CJ Prosise went 90th in 3rd. Fins took Drake at 73. Am I missing something. Any place between 73 and 90 was a good value for Prosise. Is Drake that much ‘faster’? Just curious.
Different type players.
Yes
Yes he is, more explosive more versatile, been a RB much longer too.
You guys are looking at our trade with the Pats and what Minnesota did with our 2017 4th rd pick all wrong. Do you guys like to be negative just for the sake of it? SMH LOL
No, I made a mistake with 4th and 5th RD. Still, the Pats took our 5th and turned it into a 4th next year.
So what? We made our deal and then it was Minnesota’s pick to do what they want with it. What the Pats are going to land the next Reggie White with it? I mean I don’t get this kind of thinking. I really don’t.
Chargers take Jatavis Brown to end the round.
Shoot, Jatavis Brown gone
Well the fans crucify the FO for 1 WR
I’d hate to see what they’d do for 5???????????
looks like the nhl has said no the tampa advancing further. already two really god awful power plays for NY. must be nice being a big market team and owning the refs
Who will be the 196th selection???
I can’t remember anymore, what happened to our original 6th RD pick?
Vikings trade to move up from 4th to 3rd round
Ohhh, right
D
6 minutes
Its equivalent to a this year 5th
no, it is equivalent to a 4th. it is a 4th pick so it is equivalent to a 4th. that is like when a guy is drafted in the 3rd round and some say he is 1st round talent. no he isnt, he is 3rd round talent or he would hae been a 1st round pick
Draft value FFR, next years 4th carries a value of a this year’s 5th since you don’t know how low in the 4th that pick will wind up being. I get what you are saying but that’s not how GM’s vauke future picks
the reason I ask about Prosise and Drake… it gives us an idea of what Gase is planning on doing.. our offense should be more wide open but not necessarily ‘deep/veritcal’. Cameron may be used to stretch more than Stills (?). But Parker, Landry, and now Caroo are gonna pull anything close to their hands. Maybe we’ll see more Tanny runs…. but the RB is definitely gonna be catching lots of passes.
Landry, Caroo, and Drake are after-touch guys who will keep going for yards
Rob
Honestly, i can never understand that garbage. This years 5th = next years 4th? Must be the new math. Call me next year when I have your 4th, and you used my 5th and tell me how you feel. lol
They get the extra round for having to wait a year to use it. Call it interest.
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It’s always been that way. You drop a grade this year for next year’s pick. We did the same in 1998 for Surtain, we traded a 1999 1st for a 1998 2nd to get him.
Mike it’s because you don’t know what nect years draft class will look like in the 4th you also don’t know what pick in the 4th that will be, so it could be last pick in the 4th
New blog up so we can start a fresh page for the griping of our Day 3 picks
19 picks to go
d,
i dont care how gms look at it. i was laughing at the idiot saying basically the pats got a 3rd this year for the trade when that would be impossible since the 3rd round was over. but he just wanted to find some way of making the cheats look like they are so smart
Tim, D. Son, Everyone
Still, call me next year when I have your 4th RD pick, and you used mine in the 5th last year. Hear me?
Nope! That makes no sense to me. It wasn’t our pick anymore. Come on, man. We targeted Carroo. The Pats have no idea what they get next year and it’s not like they hit on all their picks anyway. That’s just paranoia Pats stuff you’re rolling with. It had nothing to do with us.
I know it wasn’t our pick anymore, but it could have been!
Piggy
Until we trade out of this draft entirely, and get 3 4th RD picks in 2018, which will be worth 1/3 of a 7th RD pick this year. lol
Son
Is there a new blog?
Yes
you guys are missing the point. we get there is trade value. there is with any trade, but saying next year 4th is like this years 5th is bs. it is a 4th pick next year. who gives a shit about what happened the year before
lmao with the islander getting another power play in the first period. why doesnt the nhl just put them thru. this is worse then the nba
I just saw
BRANDON DOUGHTY! NIVE PICK