A “D” Miami Dolphins Draft Evaluation

by D

Let me begin by saying that draft strategies are as varied as women’s underpants, and likewise, some are more appealing to others, especially given the variety of women that wear them. I have my particular views of what is a strong draft strategy but I do not, in the least, feel it is the one the Dolphins use, nor is it better than another. I do say this, however, to point out that my evaluation is based on how I think they did, and is partially based upon my own beliefs.

Let me describe then, my belief in drafting. I am not a pure BPA person; I also am not a vertical big board person. I like to combine a few aspects of BPA, horizontal big board and player specific targeting approaches. I feel it is a good strategy for getting guys you want, and yet having the flexibility for not over drafting and with preferences towards accumulating picks over sacrificing them unnecessarily.

Now that you have an understanding of my philosophy, let me begin the draft breakdown.

Round 1, pick 13:  Mississippi OT Laremy Tunsil  6’5″  310

NCAA FOOTBALL: OCT 31 Ole Miss at Auburn

Tunsil was my highest rate player and only one really close was Ramsey. Any other draft where QB wasn’t of such desperation would have landed him as the No. 1 overall selection.  The pick to me, was BPA, it was a target player (if you lived in the land of make-believe where you really thought this was possible), it was a need position, and it was a gift from the football gods. I can’t see how this is anything other than A+, unless you are a worrier, then you might bump it down to A. Final assessment A+.

Round 2, pick 38:  Baylor CB  Xavien Howard  6’0″  201

Howard

First let me set things straight, I like the guy we picked. There had been a few CB taken early so there was some sense of urgency in making this selection, though I do not agree that the urgency required a trade up. I can’t really argue if the guy would have been selected between the 4 picks we moved up to get him, because no one really knows, but I feel certain it would have been unlikely we would have been jumped by another team to take him. I also feel pretty certain that players like TJ Green, and Sean Davis offered equally rate CB prospects, same scheme fit, and Green in particular has better measurable like 40 time. I had them all pretty equally graded. Due to this I give the player selection a B+, but what we gave up to get him makes the pick a B- overall.

Round 3, pick 73:  Alabama RB  Kenyan Drake  6’1″  210

Kenyan Drake

Kenyan Drake is a beast. I know people think he is a scat back, or a 3rd down guy, but he is going to be a LOT more. He’s pretty comparable to Lamar Miller, but is a better receiver, statements about he cant run between the tackles is not accurate, he wasn’t use that way at Alabama but that’s because Alabama always had Henry and before that, Lacy. Drake was used as a change of pace guy there, but I don’t see that same thing for him in Gase’s system, which is a lot different from Saban’s. I think this is a perfect fit for us, and it was great talent at the right round. I think this is an A+ selection.

Round 3, pick 86:  Rutgers WR  Leonte Carroo   6’0″ 211

NFL: Cleveland Browns at Baltimore Ravens

Ah, another trade up. So as I mentioned, not a big fan of giving up picks to get a play, unless it’s really justified. Player we picked is a great selection, so let’s analyze the trade. We gave up a 6th round pick, but more importantly a 3rd and a 4th rounder in 2017 to move up and take Caroo. I had Pharaoh Cooper ranked higher than Caroo, and to be honest with the way they play, there is a really strong comparison to one another. I also had Demarcus Robinson rated pretty close, though I do think Caroo gets the edge as far as play demeanor. Robinson can half ass plays sometimes, and doesn’t play aggressive. His physical skills are better but Caroo is probably the better fit. I give the pick a B+, but with what we gave up in the trade, im dropping the pick to a C+ grade.

Round 6 pick 186:  Texas Tech WR/RB  Jakeem Grant

Jakeem

Ok so I’m stuck between the nickname jitter bug and tater tot, for Grant, maybe jitter tot? At first glance you look at it and go, WTF 5’6 really but then you turn on the highlights and interviews and you go, wow this kid has spunk, he’s a baller. Quietly I have found myself loving this pick and the player. We did trade up once again to get this pick after previously trading back with NE. We swapped 6ths 196 for 186 and gave up an early 7th to move up to get him. Its hard to bag on late round trades as you are obviously maneuvering around to get a guy who probably adds special teams ability, and maybe if you are lucky becomes a backup/role player. In this guy we got a potential ST ace in the return game and a weapon on offense. Trading up to get a 1st year contributor, is an A+ move. Given the potential of this pick I see it as an A+ grade.

Round 6 pick 204:  Penn State S/CB  Jordan Lucas  6’0″ 201

jordanlucas

I had to go back and watch some film on Lucas to be honest, since I didn’t remember being wow’d by him early on. He is aggressive as hell; he looks to lay a hit on people when they catch it. His zone skills are pretty solid, and I didn’t see him in press much, so kind of hard to say. Guys who play like that however usually are going to be solid press guys though. He played both S and CB, and I think for us he could wind up in either spot. He doesn’t really have elite ball-skills, but he fights through receptions, stripping a lot out and he puts hits on guys that jar’s the ball out.  I give this pick a B+, because I like the upside and I think it’s a regime pick and fits our scheme solidly no matter which position he winds up at.

Round 7 pick 223:  Western Kentucky QB  Brandon Doughty  6’3″ 213

Doughty

Is this a pick to threaten Tannehill? No not really. Should Tanny feel pressure to improve because of this pick, I think a little. I like the pick because he does represent someone who has shown in CUSA to be a standout player. He seems to have limitations however, that I don’t think you can think of him as a potential franchise guy, but I also wouldn’t count him out of the possibility. I think this selection signifies an approach by our team to always be looking to add talent at any position, even if its one that’s seemingly secure. I think as a 7th round selection the pick was a very solid one, accomplishing 2 things, an current upgrade to the backup QB spot, and an outside chance to develop a guy who eventually starts, either for us or traded to another team. Grade B.

Round 7 pick 231:  UCLA TE  Thomas Duarte  6’2″ 231

Memphis v UCLA

The pick of Duarte is a somewhat rarity in the 7th round. 7th rounders aren’t supposed to be guy who contribute right away, they are at best special-teamers that you kinda hope after a few years can be counted on as a backup, or small contributor. Most 7th rounders have little chance to make it on the team long term. Durate though I think is a guy we see make a contribution first year. It may not be gaudy numbers, but I think he comes in and gets exposure right off. I think there are things they can do with him on the field and packages they can unlock with him they couldn’t without him.  I think he and Jitter Tot, are kind of in the same boat, sub package players, ST contributors and mismatch guys in different packages. I give this pick a A+ as well.

I think our draft was a really nice one, I don’t think it was as good as some of the other teams, but it was certainly better than most I think. Overall I give our draft a grade of B+, we filled a lot of holes, we got some talented players, and the only real complaint I have is the trades, which at times didn’t follow good draft strategy to me. The players we got were good talented guys I hope to see on the field next year, if this happen of course then the trades were great moves, so I hope to come back around at some point re-evaluating this draft and giving it a higher score.

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1,005 Responses to A “D” Miami Dolphins Draft Evaluation

  1. jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

    Heard a possible strategy of Hillary for prez campaign. She may decline to debate Trump and let him insult his way throughout campaign to show how unpresidential he can be. Damn I was hoping for the 2 debating but then again, I don’t know if Trump knows how. Oh well, he is very entertaining throwing out zingers that keep me entertained.

    • jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

      kinda risky, but I can see Hillary’s campaign advertising all the negative remarks over and over to where the voters get tired of the negativism of him.

      • jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

        The endorsements coming in the next few days are needed for Trump to have any chance and he has to get more than only 1 economist endorsing him that was fired from Princeton compared to Hillary’s 50 plus. Wow, the democratic chairperson comes out swinging. She tough because she went to UF.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      She’s being advised not to debate, because they know he’ll rip her a new one. The endorsements are garbage it’s just the good Ole boys club saying we’ll scratch your back…

      • jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

        she’s not being advised not to debate it’s one of the strategies that is being explored that Debbie mentioned.

  2. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    If I were the Democrats, I’d want to debate Trump as many times as possible, give him as many opportunities to put his foot in his mouth, which he does all the time.

  3. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I’d love DJ to be CPOY, but can we get him to make it through training camp and the preseason first?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Get him off the weed and he should be fine. He always had that Sleepy Floyd look to him, now I know why…super fine.

  4. uwantwat's avatar uwantwat says:

    We did with Ricky Williams. Besides Kiki would beat on his arse.

  5. uwantwat's avatar uwantwat says:

    Abbott the PM who got tossed out by Turnball here got into power by running a huge negative campaign. That sort of thing could work out very well for Hilary

  6. uwantwat's avatar uwantwat says:

    Would she pull his rug off his head?

    • jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

      It would be worth the price of admittance. I hate politics but this election is very entertaining

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I think it’s too thin to be some sort of rug, looks like a comb over, using lots of adhesive.

      • jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

        rememeber the days when they had hair spray that was paint that filled in the bald spots to make your hair look thicker

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        My Dad tried that, he said when he woke up the next day his pillow was black.

  7. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I’ve seen an article where they refer to Alonso as Kiki. It’s Kiko, not Kiki Dee. lol

  8. Miami Dolphins ‏@MiamiDolphins · 2m2 minutes ago

    “I think to be a great linebacker now – in this day and age – you have to do it all.”

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Said the guy that thinks he can do it all. In the age of the specialist I think not. Von can’t do it all, just great passrusher.

  9. PFF Draft ‏@PFF_College · May 1

    Miami Dolphins UDFA James Burgess held opponents to 3.02 yards per run on plays where he was the primary tackler, 17th-best in this LB class

  10. PFF Draft
    ‏@PFF_College
    Dolphins UDFA Rashawn Scott earned a +8.8 receiving grade in 2015, 4th-best among ACC WRs in this class

  11. uwantwat's avatar uwantwat says:

    Mike…my mistake it is KIKO not Kiki. Damn I keep forgetting Americans are an anal bunch.

  12. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I wonder why Kiki Dee chose #47. That’s not a good LB number, that’s a backup’s #, or a S or CB #

  13. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Good news on Jordan. Let’s hope he turns his career around and helps us.

  14. uwantwat's avatar uwantwat says:

    Can call him Dion GF if he does.

  15. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    Is Dion Jordan gonna be reinstated? Did I miss something? I thought it was still up in the air if he ever plays in the NFL again.

  16. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Before America, Trump made Sparta great again 🙂

  17. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Lou

    I just watched the bad lip reading debate on my phone, I can’t on my work PC. Those are funny as hell. I like the NFL ones too.

  18. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    tim,
    that article says Goodell has to reinstate him. God knows if and when that’ll happen. It might not happen this year. who knows.

    • Gordon just failed another test and they told him to stay clean for a few months and that’s all they said. Seems they are taking a new approach to the situation and maybe it’s because mj is probably going to be legalized. Jordan’s situation was a bit different but I still think he gets reinstated. 4/28 was the anniversary date and he could apply 60 days in advance and now these Tweets are happening. There must be something going on.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I was just sharing recent info.

  19. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    It doesn’t mater who the president is, our government fakes disasters and massacres so nothing is real anyway. You’re not really alive, you’re just hologram made up of pixels and this is all a master plan for the elite Reptilians to run the world.

  20. My guess is we hear news about Jordan’s reinstatement any day now.

  21. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Nice pic Tim . . . . I think she looks better that way. lol

  22. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, so did you know the Sandy Hook massacre was a hoax?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      I grew up not too far from there and at least know a couple people who knew families that lost families. Not even gonna go there out of respect.

  23. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, agreed.

  24. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Next time we catch ourselves being down & going woe is me. Just remember, a strong human spirit can overcome anything and make the best out of what they have!

  25. D's avatar D says:

    http://www.thephinsider.com/2016/5/4/11590952/dolphins-udfa-gabe-huges-an-insider-look-from-florida-tech-wr-te
    ————————-
    Kinda meh article about Hughes, but i like the guy’s size/speed combo, and some of the film i have seen on him shows him being a pretty good YAC guy.

  26. D's avatar D says:

    BTW i just heard a rumor that Trump is thinking of Biden as his running mate….smart but i can see republicans getting behind a ticket that has Biden on it. Then again i didn’t think they were brain damaged enough to get behind Trump either so….. This race has successfully ruined my opinion of the Republican party to the point i think im going to switch to independent just to get out of the mess that the Republicans have become. Maybe ill give them 4 more years to get shit straight but its pure embarrassment this year.

  27. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    for the love of Piggy,

    Bishop Sankey on the Titans’ chopping block
    A Titans staff member told third-round S Kevin Byard that Bishop Sankey’s number was available.

  28. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Tunsil
    James
    Albert

    Only one of them was drafted as a guard and spent most of his college years playing that.

    Just saying.

  29. D's avatar D says:

    What happened to Breshad’s dad is what killed my Grandmother. If its a major vessel his chance of recovery is slim. Prayers to him and his family.

  30. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    • D's avatar D says:

      Can i just win one of the cheerleaders instead…. Id knock out a computer script to enter me as many times as possible were that the prize!

  31. D's avatar D says:

    This Sandy Hook is a conspiracy thing is retarded, i mean i know our government is capable of some extreme bullshit, but what happen there wasn’t agenda until it already happened. It was no hoax, it was not staged thing, it was nothing organized by the government to leverage gun control, though i do think the government jumped into high gear taking it that direction afterwards did indeed happen. Its pretty disrespectful to the families of people who lost children and the people that lost their lives there to say otherwise, sad to see this is yet another disastrous thing hijacked by people who want to spread their own agendas.

  32. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Stanger,
    Tunsil
    James
    Albert
    Bushrod (can’t forget him)
    We have 4 guys that play OT, actually 5 if you include Young.
    Foerster has plenty to work with….let’s put out a good OL for once in 5 years!

    • D's avatar D says:

      Yeah i think competition settles the question of who goes where, Gase said so in his interview. Best 5 play and play where they are best.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Most teams go with best 5.

        I’ll role with lineup as my projected best 5.
        LT Albert
        LG Tunsil
        C Pouncey
        RG Turner
        RT James

        I’m really hoping Turner steps up his game in pass pro because he’s shown he can be very effective in the run game. Douglas could also be in the mix.

  33. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Tim:
    Responding to your post from last night. Anyone who thinks Sandy Hook was a hoax is delusional and sick. I have a friend who’s children go to that school. Trust me it was real

  34. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    getterdone says:
    May 4, 2016 at 10:19 pm

    LOL, you’re so predictable FFR:)

    lol, yep getter i am. just me. nobody else on here is. just me.

    too damn funny how you guys think calling someone predictable is an insult but dont realize how we all know each other and what to expect.

  35. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    D, I mentioned the other day Albert possibly being more willing to play LG now that he has his LT contract. But I’m not sure if it was only about that or position preference.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      I think if healthy Albert stays @ LT with Tunsil @ LG if he looks adequate there for now.
      Let Douglas, Turner, Urbik, Thomas fight for RG duties.

      Bushrod depth @ OT or LG, then Young.
      That’s 9 OL with Pouncey.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      Ultimately Albert will go to LG the question is will be this year or next?

  36. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    getterdone says:
    May 5, 2016 at 12:52 pm

    LMAO if you took that as a slight or insult. Guess I’m getting good in my old blogging age.

    ?????? how would you posting something and some one taking it unhow you meant it make you good.

    and ok since i showed how lame an insult it was it is ok for you to back track now and say you didnt mean it that way.

  37. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    D says:
    May 5, 2016 at 12:45 pm
    He is already getting LT money, shouldnt bother him where he is playing as long as his money matches LT money.
    —————-
    D but unless Albert plans on retiring he has a next contract to play for too. And LTs make more than guards. He’s “cuttable” next year.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Thats true though even if he stays at LT.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        For sure it is, but the Phins switching him to G would probably make him that, or at least be a sign of it. I’m sure he’d like to kick butt at LT and head into FA.

  38. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    getter,

    thanks, i love binky’s. i can never have enough binky’s in my mouth at a time. you sure are a swell guy

  39. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    sorry to hear about brett. seems to be happening way to much to cane alumni

    now a days to out recruit the U all a coach has to do is say, ‘great school and all but just know if you go there you life expectancy is drastically shortened’

    • D's avatar D says:

      Im really hoping that program bounces back soon, i have been holding out hope for them over past few years, great talent just shitty at putting it all together. I think Richt will do a good job, already a good recruiter, but his teams are generally good. Big question with him i think will be how many times does he take the canes to the playoff, and come away with a first round exit.

  40. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  41. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Albert is signed through 2018 and he turns 32 in November. I doubt he gets another big payday and he might not even try. I think he likes living in Miami and he may want to play and hope to win there and that’s it.

  42. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  43. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:
  44. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    GD, in that OL roster scenario Douglas will have to be the backup center.

  45. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    My guess is Albert stays at LT, and we do our best to get Tunsil, or someone else to play G

  46. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    D

    i hope they do too. i think getting ricth was the right move. all coaches come with questions or they wouldnt be available. but i am hoping he will do a great job

  47. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Wyo

    Question 6 should have been do you think you’ll be the best TE on the team, better than Jordan Cameron?

    • D's avatar D says:

      Wow that does read a lot like something OD would write LOL, other than missing the every other word capitalized style we so commonly see from him the overall tone was spot on lol. Some on OD just admit it, you wrote that under a pseudonym didnt ya!

  48. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Mike E
    I’m sure he’d answer yes to #6
    But he’s a late round flyer!
    May stick May Not!

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Quite true Wyo. I think he’ll make it. We need a guy that makes plays, and actually catches the ball. If he does that, he’s a leg up on the other guys.

  49. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Speaking of Duarte, he’s the same size as Reed, and a tad faster. The story below should be his influence to riches if he can make plays.
    ______________________

    Redskins signed TE Jordan Reed to a five-year, $46.5 million extension through 2021.
    The deal includes $22 million guaranteed. Despite a checkered injury history, Reed has established himself as one of the most dynamic passing weapons in the league. He caught 87 passes for 952 yards and 11 touchdowns in just 14 games last year before adding a 9-120-1 performance in Washington’s playoff loss to the Packers. Reed will undoubtedly live up to this contract if he is able to stay on the field, but he has a long and concerning history of concussions.

  50. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Funny how easy it is for other people to spend other peoples money. If that guy had to spend $500 to make it Shula Stadium, he probably wouldn’t do it, but he expects Ross not to try and make a deal to get a company to buy the rights to have the stadium named for their company, like EVERY other NFL team, and really, every professional sports team.

  51. D's avatar D says:

    I just cant see taking a 5 star LT, with some of the best footwork i have ever seen in a OT, young, future of the franchise at that position and bumping him to LG. It just doesn’t make sense to me like it does you guys. Im not sure Albert being bumped to LG makes a ton of sense to me either but i think its a better overall lineup if you do. 0 snaps at OG for Tunsil, Albert had his collegiate career there, he knows the position better and would perform better. I think most of you neglect the differences in the position and the fact he will be learning, and adjusting his already great play-style to accommodate that shift. Albert it will be like going home to a position he excelled at.

    I personally dont care how it turns out as long as they are cramming square peg in a round hole, give me the guys playing at the position they are most able to play at a top level, see them show the ability to play there before you start forcing things, No more bullshit previewing them at a position they havent shown they can play and then being obstinate about making it happen.

  52. Omar doesn’t like the Doughty picks. Says he saw him throw “in person” and he doesn’t have an NFL arm and says he won’t even beat out Moore. Get excited. We just found ourselves the next Tom Brady.

  53. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I think Branden Albert will be LeftouT if he’s not healthy

  54. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    LOL @ Biden as Trump VP. That’s delusional. Don’t you have to agree with your running mate on some issues?

    I heard Lindsey Graham saying, agreeing to become Trumps running mate is like buying a ticket on the titanic.

  55. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    D, at first Tunsil @ LG didn’t make sense to me either, mainly cause I was a little down on Albert & his ability to go 16 games.
    But the more I thought about it, Albert is a season pro bowl LT, so why mess with that if you plan on him still being here in 2016.
    Plus other great LT’s that were drafted high started out playing LG or even RT before the spot opened up for them to move anchor the LT position.
    Tunsil already has the footwork down for pass pro, playing LG will enhance his run blocking skills as well.

  56. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    D:
    If I am not mistaken but Orlando Pace played OG as a rookie. It’s not that uncommon to have an OT play OG as a rookie

  57. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    i agree about telling ross how to spend his money. it really is no ones business but his own. but i am sure there are still ways to get shula’s name on the stadium and naming rights sold too. kind of like fsu’s bobby bowden field at doak campbell stadium’

  58. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    getterdone says:

    May 5, 2016 at 2:13 pm (Edit)

    Fine reply to Ken but not to me when I said it first…Waaaaa!
    ***********************
    Hulk bigger, have more pull. Hulk smash if no reply

  59. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    gdp,
    I agree with you about Graham. I think his whole wars and more wars mentality comes from the fact that he’s a homosexual and just needs to come out of the closet 😉

  60. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    Early bird power ranking. We’re not in the top 20 but we’re ahead of the Jets. YAY!

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000659907/article/nfl-power-rankings-draft-lifts-cardinals-broncos-patriots-fall

  61. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Lindsey Graham really likes missiles. I heard he has one he slides up and down on at home.

  62. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    GDP:
    I like Belgian ales as well – you’re on

  63. Christie becomes AG and mj is definitely legalized because nobody eats that many Doritos and Oreos unless they’re smoking weed.

  64. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Just for you Tim!!!!!!!! 🙂
    It’s never to early to start!

    8: R1P8 RB LEONARD FOURNETTE, LSU
    40: R2P8 ILB KENDELL BECKWITH, LSU
    135: R5P8 DE KEN EKANEM, VIRGINIA TECH
    167: R6P8 S FISH SMITHSON, KANSAS
    198: R7P8 C KYLE FULLER, BAYLOR

  65. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Oh hell no! Can this even be real, or photoshopped in a way? This guy has huge nads.
    Maybe the camera angle makes it look more treacherous than it really is…But, Oh HELL NO!

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I can’t see it, Clark.

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        You never can…your ‘puter is ganked brah!

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        It’s a sick video of a mountain bike ride on steep edges of cliffs….like OMG, viewing it from his helmet Go-Pro cam.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Tim, looks like 1 slight slip up and certain death would follow.
      Even if he had a chute on, you’d have to be able to kick out far enough to deploy it properly to keep from tumbling down the cliff in a death roll.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Lol at photoshopped video

  66. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Wyo

    We pick at #8 again in 2017. Gonna be a shitty season!

  67. To me, not drafting a LB this year means they are still going to bring in at least one FA before camp that can compete for a spot at the position and I’d say THAT guy is Curtis Lofton. He’s a MLB and that’s what we need and I think he fits that “alpha male” personality they seem to be leaning towards. He’s not a long-term option but I like the way he plays the game much more than Sheppard, an all-out physical, aggressive style of play. I’m hoping I’m right on this.

  68. does anyone else’s timeline go batshit when they refresh the screen on this blog?

  69. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Steve

    I’ve made it clear I like the players, but I didn’t like trading away next years picks. Other than that, they still have to show me, because Gase is a first time HC, so we’ll see how it all works out. Hopefully better than 6-10

  70. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    They have to show me is chicken shit OD talk. We all know they have to show us, it’s whether or not you overall agree with what they’ve done since the end of last season, it’s fine to say what you don’t like, but for fucksake do you have to repeat it over and over?

  71. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    steveccnv says:
    May 5, 2016 at 4:47 pm
    Lol at photoshopped video
    Reply

    lol, I meant it in jest….ok, how bout CGI in the video….the point was, No Way someone rides a mountain bike on that course and live to tell about it.
    Did you even play the video?

  72. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    GD, it’s not my computer, it’s Firefox settings but I’m not sure which one. I can view everything through Safari.

    I think that bike video is real.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Dude has more courage than I do. Of course my center of gravity is too high as it is @ 6’4, so that type of mountain biking doesn’t work for me…lol
      I do like to ride on regular bike trials & paths, for exercise, not for death defying adrenalin thrills.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I haven’t mountain biked in awhile but that’s the kind of riding I like to do too, nothing too risky. I used to do a little more in my 30s but now I would just like being out on the paths.

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        Amen, just joy riding smelling the surrounding nature, breathing the fresh air, oh and gazing at any chicks riding by…lol

  73. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Steve

    Sure, it’s necessary for me to repeat myself over and over, just like you, and everyone else on the blog. I mean there are only so many things to discuss. Cameron and Stills are under contract. I made it clear I wanted them to cut Cameron, but they re-signed him and redid his salary. At least both are on prove me years, because both contracts expire at the end of this season Stills I don’t have a problem with as a 4th or 5th WR, I just don’t think he’s a #2 or a #3.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Please don’t say this again, it’s the year of the monkey ya know.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      At least I back my opinion with stats that prove them out, and not just spew shit that makes no sense. Still(s), you don’t have to agree, or read those posts for that matter. That’s the beauty of the avatars, you know who says what, and it’s easy enough to skip by.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I agree they both sacked last year, that’s not the point, nor what I said the issue is.

  74. D's avatar D says:

    Orlando pace did not play OG in the NFL, was a LT from day 1 according to profootball reference.
    Ogden did do it, but i think you guys are missing my point. Its not about has it been done before, its about whether it is good for Tunsil and good for the team. Not everyone can make that transition, there are OT’s that have the requisite skills to move inside and play there, there are others that the transition does not go over as well. He can be a masterful LT as i feel he is and not be able to play but at best mediocre at the OG spot. I also had messing with what is working for him. We have other options we can use at OG, and if they are anywhere near as adequate i wouldnt mess wit moving him there.

    Why do you guys feel so certain he is going to be able to play OG as well as OT? Also why wouldnt you think Albert would be better at OG than him since he has experience playing there?

    • BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

      I think ogden played guard his first year.

    • BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

      Sorry that’s what you said. I misread it.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Yep, Ogden was one of them that did that.
      I never said for certain, I said if he looks adequate playing LG in camp then go with it.
      Same as why would you want to move Albert to LG. It’s been a while since he’s had to do that. He might struggle there as well.
      My main point is we got to try to get them both on the field as part of the starting 5 at the end of the day, however that works out.
      But to me, the young guy, the rook, always has to take the lessor job first, if at all possible..IMO. (team player)

  75. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Tim Knight says:
    May 5, 2016 at 5:37 pm
    I haven’t mountain biked in awhile but that’s the kind of riding I like to do too, nothing too risky. I used to do a little more in my 30s but now I would just like being out on the paths.
    Reply

    Amen, just joy riding smelling the surrounding nature, breathing the fresh air, oh and gazing at any chicks riding by…lol

  76. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Wyoming, 2017 mock draft above would tell me we’re not that far off, especially if this years and last years new players develop.

    We wouldn’t necessarily need the RB Fournette in the 1st cause Ajayi & Drake would be cooking.
    So we’d likely go DE & LB early, & BPA the rest of they way.

    Shows ya that we actually did pretty well this offseason(FA & draft) on both sides of the ball, if most of the additions can contribute. Some more than others I know, but this team is starting to show a resemblance of depth.

  77. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Golfing with The Donald from Oscar De La Hoya

    ————————————-

    “I was teeing on the first hole and next thing I know here comes a golf cart. It’s Donald Trump: ‘Oscar, can I play with you?”

    Trump hit four balls off the first tee: The first found a water hazard, then pulled another left out of bounds, a third into the water and then a fourth into the bushes…..Trump hopped in his cart, went down to the middle of the fairway and said he’d found his ball right down Broadway.

    Quoting Trump, De La Hoya recalled he said, “By the way, I found my first ball, it’s right here.”

    “We’re like, ‘OK, yeah,’ we’re cracking up, not in front of his face,” De La Hoya continued.

    On another hole, Trump’s tee shot at a 170-yard par 3 went out of bounds. Again, Trump drove off in the cart first, went toward the green and said he found his ball.

    “We get up there [to the green] and he’s like, ‘Oh, my ball’s right here!’ Three feet away. ‘And by the way, I’m going to pick it up, it’s a gimme,’” he said.

    Obviously offended, De La Hoya isn’t interested in voting for Trump.

    He said, “I’m not [voting] for someone who cheats in golf.”

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Well there you have it. Straight from the most honest man’s mouth and keen recollection in history. Glad I read that. Changing my vote too….lol

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I’ve seen DeLa Hoya play golf, and it wasn’t pretty…

  78. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    You better believe it’s the year of the monkey.

  79. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Most recently, Greg Robinson of the Rams played LG for a bit his rookie season, but now is at LT, where he was originally projected to be. Robinson was the #2 pick in 2013 draft

    • D's avatar D says:

      And he didnt play well at OG

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        That happens, but he might not have played any better at LT either. He got better as the year went on if I remember correctly.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Probably an impossible point to argue, so just put me in the group that believes Tunsil will/should play LT

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        They’ll try guys at different positions, and work it out, so the best possible line is on the field, just like Gases said. If I had my say Tunsil would play RT, but I don’t, so…

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        Then where does Albert play?

  80. D's avatar D says:

    Talking about way too early drafts. Next year UF had Jalen Tabor and Marcus Maye likely coming out. Tabor is every bit as skilled as Hargreaves, similar play style but 6’1 height probably makes him more attractive to us, so if we miss on Howard, Tabor might be a good selection. Maybe was a 1st team all american at safety, so technically better than Neal, Neal going in the 1st round this year. We also have Jarrad Davis ILB coming out next year, he is a really talented LB, projected early as a potential 1st rounder as well.

    Add that to a list of Leonard Fournette, Cam Robinson, Carl Lawson, Jonathan Allen, Ruben Foster, Tim Williams, OJ Howard, Derek Barnett, Tony Conner, Charles Harris, Jamal Adams, Tre’Davious White, Louis Neal, Jalen Reeves-Maybin, Nick Chubb, Malachi Dupree, Ethan Pocic, Evan Godchaux, Eddie Jackson, Marquis Haynes, Myles Garrett, Travin Dural, Armani Watts, Deshain Hand, Kendell Beckwith, Evan Engram, Jonathan Ford…. all of these just from the SEC all of these with potential to be first rounders next year. I got my work cut out for me.

  81. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    D – Duly noted. Just don’t repeat it over and over again, OK?

  82. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    D
    I’ll also go on the record that if Branden Albert is healthy, that he will be the LT, and if not, Tunsil will be the LT. I do think it’s possible (If Albert is healthy) they work James at G with Bushrod, Thomas, Turner and Douglas, and work Tunsil at G and both Tackle spots

  83. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Well now he’s got my vote

    …for douche of the year

  84. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Steve

    So what’s the issue?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      The issue is repeating the same thing over and over. Someone that hasn’t been on the board for a while comes back after the draft and says some liked the draft, some didn’t and Mike hated the trade for next years picks. If that doesn’t say it all…

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        OK, my issue is you singling me out as the lone culprit when every single blogger here does it. Sorry Steve, that doesn’t work for me.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        No one does it quite like you except OD with the Ross BS, but even he doesn’t say it that often, he’s just saying the same sad story for 5+ yrs. I’m not the only one saying it to either of you guys.

  85. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      wouldn’t be a bad idea to add a vet cb
      and VJ knows him

      But Ifoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

      is the Pork Chops

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Kicking the tires, as I’m sure they’ll do with several other FAs. What kind of year did he have last year?

  86. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    WTF?????????????????????

    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2h2 hours ago
    Seahawks officially placed RB Marshawn Lynch on reserve/retired list. Beastmode in Shutdown mode.

  87. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    LOL @ Piggy getting his Trump shots in over a Taco Bowl. 🙂

  88. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t know Steve
    I figure why not
    we traded Jamar Taylor so there is room for some competition

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      We both liked Ifo in that draft, but we knew he was a health risk. Maybe the extra time gave him a chance to get himself healthy.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        He was supposed to be out of 2015 when he was drafted

        But when he was cut it indicates that the injury was more serious

        But who knows – it was the Browns that drafted him (knowing he would be out a year) and cut him a year later

        It might have been a Prototypical Cleveland Mistake

  89. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Albert played 14 games last year and played well so why do we always say if healthy? He’s another year removed from the knee injury so he’s not rehabbing and he’ll condition himself to get ready for the season like everyone else.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Because he’s getting older, and he’s playing on a reconstructed knee. I think that’s a fair worry. These guys knees are shot without having a major injury, their joints take a beating, so if he’s healthy seems logical to me.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Well he played on it last year which was closer to when he injured it so he should be even better. He’s 31 not 36. 🙂

  90. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    Mike E. says:
    May 5, 2016 at 6:49 pm

    OK, my issue is you singling me out as the lone culprit when every single blogger here does it.

    mike, you are just so predictable. lmmfao

  91. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I forgot Ifo was only 5’9″. At best, he’ll be considered as a nickel or dime back.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      That may be the thought now, but he may have to play outside, if he’s one of the top 2 CBs.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        I think the odds are slim of him being top 2. I think Maxwell and Howard have the best shot, followed by Lippett and McCain, and maybe even Lucas.

  92. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    piggy,

    you are trashing trump again. just saying here, i have no problem with it but just a warning, watch out for steve

  93. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, Trump loves you. LOL

  94. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rob

    Steve got his period today, you have to be a little more understanding.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Why today? I’ve been saying it since after the 400th time you mentioned you didn’t like the trade of next yrs players.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Hmm, maybe I skipped your posts the last few days then, and today I didn’t? Not sure.

  95. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Dr. Tim has proclaimed Branden Albert healthy, so he will be the starting LT

  96. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    mike

    i guess steve and getter are in sync then

  97. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Steve

    I must be hitting a tender spot with you or something. Sure, I like to rag on Stills and Cameron, but so what? Why do you care so much? Are you related to them in any way? I would relent if they were family, but if they’re not, the torment shall continue!

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      It would be like that poster, probably Home, that typed something post after post like.
      Cameron suckssssssssssssssssss, Stills is a pussyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
      Cameron suckssssssssssssssssss, Stills is a pussyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
      Cameron suckssssssssssssssssss, Stills is a pussyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
      Cameron suckssssssssssssssssss, Stills is a pussyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

      You’re already said you made it clear, so why do you feel the need to keep saying it, it gets annoying. You’ve said it, we know your stance.

  98. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    mike

    now ok you just went to far. that was over the top not nice. i mean first steve is on his heavy flow nights and then you go and hit a tender spot too. that is just over the top cruel, not even to say how fucking gross it is too.