Pigsgerald Bacon has agreed to participate in a simulation. Today Piggy will be helping us demonstrate pocket awareness. Specifically the pocket awareness of our very own quarterback – Ryan Tannehill.
To appreciate the authenticity of the simulation – Piggy will be wearing a blindfold
That way Piggy will have no idea what is going on around him!
and we made some last minute additions to the simulation that Piggy does not know about
Like adding a trap door right below Piggy…
So imagine that Ryan Tannehill is standing in the pocket..if there is a pocket
And suddenly something unexpected happens so the play doesn’t go as planned
To simulate this…the trap door opens…
Now the blindfolded Piggy has no idea what is around him
In this case, we have a room full of hungry crocodiles to simulate the rushing defensive players coming at Ryan Tannehill
Look at Piggy Panic!
Look familiar?
Ryan Tannehill has been sacked 195 times in his career
He’s under pressure a lot more than that
He’s had a horrible offensive line
No run game
Some very predictable play calling
But some think he holds the ball too long
And he doesn’t seem to move very well in the pocket.
He has no sense of the rush around him.
And the result is 41 fumbles in 68 games
Fixing this might be Adam Gase’s biggest challenge
Can it be taught?
Gase seems to think so he recently sighted to helping Jay Cutler with this when he worked with Jay Cutler.
If it is fixed, it might just save the season for the Dolphins.
Okay Piggy…I think I made my point. Let me help you out of there
Oh wait…we aren’t done with the simulation
to simulate the Dolphins breaking the heart of Dolfans, we will simply pull our hand away while Piggy reaches
and watch him drop to the crocodile pit again
Did we tell you we named all the crocodiles Geno Atkins to make this as realistic as possible?
…Well looks like Piggy made it out of the crocodile pit trap door!
Can the Dolphins make it out of this 1-3 hole?
Finsmob Unleashed 
Did you see that Tackle by the Vikings defense stopping the 1at down pickup
Our players in would not have made that tackle
i just dont understand football. how can a giants def that has been on the field the whole first half hold a team to just two scores. what are they like super humans that never get tired. maybe they are robots or something. i mean that is impossible for a def to keep their team in the game when the offense sucks so bad.
It’s Vernon!
Jahn
Sorry I missed ya bud, it’s the holiday and I was at my sister’s house, doing what the Irish do best, drinking. Oh shit, I forgot, I’m Jewish. Anyway, it was fun! Glad to see you stop by, even though I missed you. Also glad to hear all is well. Hope to catch you on soon. GO DOLPHINS!
Happy Holiday Mike E
Herd : unless Rudolph fumbles you have knocked me from the ranks of the undefeated. Congrats
Y’all watching Monday night football? They said earlier that Vernon left so he could play on a team with a QB capable of getting the team to a Superbowl. Miller got promised more chances to run but leaves his home town team, city he has played in his entire career to go to another team. Support for Tanny amongst his teammates doesn’t seem very string, if he isn’t held to same punishment as they are that just gets worse. I remember last year there was rumors around the London game where players were said to not care for him. Maybe this team isn’t behind him. Being pros I would expect they push through it, but it can be harmonious without that unity.
Jahn good to see ya bro.
Howie
Mia 20-17
……….. dreadful. Just dreadful.
Continued good luck with the brewing Jahndoh! What’s the brewery called? Will check it out on line and who knows, maybe one day in person?!?
Good to see you Jahn and UK, Glad all is well.
I’m not confident that Pouncey will make that big of a difference coming back, but I hope that he will. You look at our OL and you’d THINK it would be better than last year’s , but IMO it’s worse. They can’t run block for shit. Admittedly, the pass blocking seems a little better, but not by much.
D,
Been saying the same thing. I think the entire team with few exceptions doesn’t have the faith that Tannehill is the qb that’s going to help them win games. Especially now. I think they’ve seen enough of him over the past four years to realize the situation they’re in and know they’re beating their heads against a wall and that as long as he’s the qb they might as well be on the bench.
I think just about everyone of his teammates wants him out of there.
Fans complained about the go, go-go thing with Sherman. Then they complained because Lazor didn’t allow him to change out of plays. Now he’s got the freedom to change things up at the line but defenses are confusing the shit out of him becaaaauuuussse he’s dummer than a stack of bricks.
So we still have a few people who think he deserves a chance to see what he can do the remainder of the season but IMO he’s had enough chances already and hasn’t proven anything.
It’s going to be a long season.
How many of his teammates do you think feel that Brandon Doughty gives them the best chance to win this season?
all Doughty needs is a chance. that’s it. he can run this offense a hell of a lot better than RT1P8 can.
I’ve gone back and looked at the games again and, AGAIN, you see guys open that Tannehill could have thrown the ball to and he didn’t. There’s a play where it’s 3rd and around 4 or 5 and he’s got 3 guys he could’ve hit that would have had a chance at the first down and he throws it down the left sideline about 15 yds over Cameron’s head with 2 db’s on him. W-T-F!
Gonna be a looooooooooooonnnnnnnngggggg season.
Toba – Thanks bud!
D
That’s funny, I thought OV went to NY because they paid him a gazillion dollars. Anyway, how’s that working out for him with that great leader QB Eli Manning? How’s OV doing? Nothing, much, kinda like what he did here. Now on the other hand, if a lot of his (RT’s) teammates feel that way, that the QB is holding them back, that is an issue, but the least they could do is do their job so RT has a chance to win the game.
that’s funny. “so RT has a chance to win the game”. Never gonna happen. What I love is when the offense goes 3 and out time and again and then they move the ball down the field and score like in the New England game and people are all swinging from RT’s ballsack saying “hey, he almost brought us back”.
No mention of how great the pass protection was during those drives though. Nah. Also no mention of the fact that we couldn’t move the ball earlier and no mention of his dumbass interception earlier that the D got a stop on. Nah.
So, the defense has to go out there time and again after all those 3 and out’s and continue to get stops so RT has a chance to win the game after the team is down because RT hasn’t gotten the team down the field to score points earlier in the game.
Yep. That works for me.
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when are fans going to realize that Ryan Tannehill is the single biggest reason this team is being held back from being successful?
I guess her next stop should be Jacksonville that way the entire state can have a turn at her wrath.
Wyo,
She took a swipe at Andrew Abramson as well.
Piggy,
I remember when I watched Perkins UCLA highlights, his vision and setup moves in the 2nd level really stood out to me. It’s like a slower version of Arian Foster.
Lou
You don’t give Doughty a shot because realistically, Ryan Tannehill gives them the best chance to win every week. He’s going to most likely get the rest of the season, although if he has another awful game, he may get benched, and then unless Moore or Doughty wins, I would expect Tannehill to play again at some point.
Realistically? I don’t think so. We could have won 6 games last season with Matt Moore at the helm. Tannehill being in there didn’t make a difference. Realistically speaking, this team has little chance of winning any significant amount of games with Ryan Tannehill as the quarterback.
We’re looking at 7-9 at best with him at the helm and Doughty could get us another 6 wins but at least he’ll develop into the better qb over that time and be ready for next season. Tannehill is finished. Stick a fork in him.
If he continues to start for the remainder of the season there will be issues within the team because the players are going to have a huge problem with him in there losing games.
Yeah, the Panthers could have lost 3 games without Cam Newton this season too. What point does that make exactly, other than it’s a team game, and one player doesn’t really control the fortunes of the entire team, YES, even the QB.
that is true in some cases but in the case of the fins this team could be 3-1 if not for the shit qb at the helm
Wow, why do we care what the talking toilet (Miko) aka (I heart Fecal) says?
lol, nothing else to talk about
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
October 4, 2016 at 10:15 am
“when are fans going to realize that Ryan Tannehill is the single biggest reason this team is being held back from being successful?”
The reason fans don’t “realize” this is maybe because it is your opinion that you state as fact. Some of us happen to disagree with this.
my opinion. on the contrary, we’ve got 4+ seasons of his shit play that proves he ain’t the guy. what more do you want? are you one of those fans who think we should give him another 4 yrs to show what he’s got and waste time trying to win with a subpar qb?
tannehill can’t run the Gase offense. the qb who runs his O has to be able to read defenses and make quick decisions with the football and tannehill cant do it.
I can’t believe there’s still fans out there who think tannehill is still the right qb for this team. hilarious.
I honestly don’t care what they do personnel wise as along as they start winning. I am just a fan, I cannot affect what they do, so my attitude moving forward is to enjoy each game by itself, no matter who is wearing the uniform.
The reason for my post was to point out that your comments on Tannehill about being the primary reason the Dolphins have failed IS your opinion and you state it as fact. I really am not going to debate the Tannehill argument, because I recognize that whatever I say IS my opinion, and the reason some disagree with you, is because your position IS your opinion…that is why it is open to debate by others. Facts are really not open to debate.
I hope the Fins have a light bulb moment soon and rip off 6 straight wins
I am with you on that…don’t care how they do it, or who is the “reason”…just do it..LOL
Oddshark.com’s computer model predicts a score of TEN 21.3 (21) MIA 21.5 (22).
I’ve never seen it predict a tie but that’s as close as it gets lol.
I read the Miko b Anramson exchange last night
And I kind of agree with Mike
Why do we care about this anymore
I mean she’s crazy
She trashy
I think we all know that by now
It’s not going to change
She’s just out there bashing the Dolfan fan base
I would just rather move on
I read her timeline last night
She’s already basing bucs fans from time to time
It will increase over the course of the year
But she’s probably going to keep on fighting with Dolfans publicly if they keep egging her on – I don’t know why people @ people so much on Twitter
Especially athletes or even worse in this case their families
I don’t know – maybe I’m being soapboxy
But I don’t really enjoy sports this way
I like to watch the game and think about what it takes to win
Or if my team is winning actually enjoy winning
It seems a little miserable to poke a player’s wife about how bad her husband is now🤔
“I like to watch the game and think about what it takes to win
Or if my team is winning actually enjoy winning ”
I like this comment. I think that is why I used to enjoy watching my teams play more when there wasn’t as much of this type of information or bantering available.(That and they used to win more..LOL) Sometimes there is information over load, especially with stuff that has nothing to do with what goes on between the lines.
Yeah – seriously why do I care about Miko?
It is information overload
or more like opinion overload
@ Al:
I have an 8.5% DIPA that’s part of my regular portfolio, it’s our 2nd best seller (behind the regular IPA), and I have a 9.5% Imperial IPA (hint, there’s no difference between a DIPA and a an IIPA, but some drinkers think there is, so I made 2 and used both names!). If you’re going to the fest, i’ll be sure to send a few bottles Son’s way to share.
My only fear is: Small batch beer isn’t the best traveling beer (the big breweries pasteurize but we don’t) so I hope it all tastes good by the time it gets to you!
Thanks OD, UK, Herd, Mike, Tim and all the other well-wishers! Here’s hoping yet again for an improbably turn around for our Fins!
@OD, my 80 hour work weeks pale in comparison to what you did in service to our country. You’re to be honored for your sacrifice!
^ Proud of you bud! Couldn’t be happier to hear that your dream has come true!
Hey Jahn, congrats on your venture. Sounds like things are going well. Are you going to GABF this year?
Jahn, glad to see things are working out well for you. Good to see you were brave enough to take a leap of faith in yourself……of course you ARE God…LOL
Jahn living the American Dream. Very inspirational.
Jahn,
Glad to see you happy and doing well. Always good to see ya on.
31-21 Miami. Im really tempted to pull out an outrageous score here. I think we will be like last year and have 1-2 games that we just look amazing. With Pouncey and Albert back, we should have a better OL and better offense. Tanny is also due a solid game after 6 bad halves out of 8. Im encouraged by our run stoping last game but Mariota could be a problem. We will see if we do like last year or not.
Though I am also disappointed in RT this year I think putting it all on him has gone overboard. I’m disappointed in the entire team thus far. If we’re going to be a good team and turn the season around a lot more players than just Tannehill need to step up their games.
You can’t criticize the OL, the RBs, the TEs, the LBs and CBs which many here do and then say it’s all Tannehill. That doesn’t add up. Be realistic, we’ve lost games in a lot of areas so far.
Tim Knight says:
October 4, 2016 at 12:59 pm
Jahn living the American Dream. Very inspirational.
more like brewing the american dream
Tim Knight says:
October 4, 2016 at 1:23 pm
Though I am also disappointed in RT this year I think putting it all on him has gone overboard. I’m disappointed in the entire team thus far. If we’re going to be a good team and turn the season around a lot more players than just Tannehill need to step up their games.
well you are wrong, everyone knows it is just the qb.
So I’ve heard. LOL
Go look around the league and you will see a bunch of teams with what are considered top QBs struggling. It’s still a team game because it always has been and always will be.
Bookman, I approach sports similar to the way you do. As frustrated as we get after losses, it is what it is and you can either jump ship or still hope for the best. I didn’t think we were going to be a real good team this year anyway and thought we might get off to a slow start. But this home stretch is where they need to salvage the season. If we can’t win some/most of these games then we know for sure we’re not that good.
Go Phins!!!
tim,
one of the things that keeps going unmentioned and it is just nothing but blaming rt is this is a complete new scheme on both offense and defense. with the limitation of contact in training camp they are probably still working on things. i do think this team is void of talent but it could be as simple as they havent putting it together yet
I’ve said that before the season started. It’s a combo of that and personnel and some of the personnel is young and still developing though many don’t want to hear it. I can accept it because I already felt that way. The coaches are learning about this team and trying to field the best team they can each week.
My hope was that we don’t dig ourselves too deep into a hole that they can’t get back in the race and at least have a chance at the playoffs. That hope has to start with 4 homes games in a row and a bye week in there. This team doesn’t have to travel for 5 weeks. It was a tough start to the season with 3 road games against playoff teams, but here’s their chance that is quite rare.
tim,
i think just bashing the qb makes it easy to be pissed. it isnt like you have to talk about all the other failed parts all you have to do is focus all your hate and anger on one person the hit the irrational button and blast away.
Some people need a scapegoat. I’ve never been a scapegoat guy.
I’ve heard local fans call WFAN wanting to move on from Eli Manning and start backups for years even after winning two SBs and Eli being MVP. It’s a common thing for fans when you lose and the QB struggles not seeing the entire picture. Look at last night’s game, the Giants struggled but the reason is the Vikings are a better team across the board. Eli had the kind of game RT has too often but it wasn’t his fault. The Giants were outplayed in every phase.
tim
even if they dig themselves in a hole as long as by the end of they year they are playing great that is something for a first year coach. however, if they are still playing like they are now at the end of they year that is gonna suck.
Yeah that would suck. You want to see progress. You want to see better overall team performances and some young players really shine. If that doesn’t happen it leaves you feeling there is no hope in sight. All we can do is watch the games and see what happens.
When you ask for changes at the top and a new direction and you get it, you better be ready for a learning curve.
The way we’ve put out lineups week in and week out, it’s obvious to me that they’re experimenting to find out what each player is capable of. When you do that at the expense of putting your best players out there, the team isn’t going to play it’s best. I hope we’re just about past that point, where we can now focus on getting the best players in position to win with the right game plan each week.
You mean Ajayi, Parker, Maxwell and that sort of thing?
Yeah, it’s time to put the best guys out there and win. If we’re really better w/o Maxwell, I’m fine with that, keep him on the bench. Do we really need to see Damien Williams starting though?
Benching James, using 2 different centers with Pouncey out. Albert out last week. Drake getting starts. Cameron out and looking for TE help. A lot of youth at CB. All of that adds up.
I agree with Mike that the coaches are trying to find the right guys. They’re looking for players they can trust. They’re still learning this team. It’s not like they took over an established team that’s had success. They took over a team that hit rock bottom last year. It’s not going to happen over night. But like Mike said I hope we’re getting past that. We also need to get some guys healthy and going. We need young players being relied on to start stepping up as well. And yes the QB has to play better. 😉
people have been praising Gase for “not taking shit”
but there is a trade off
you don’t put your best players out there if you do that
If you guys think that might have contributed to 1-3 doesn’t that mean it’s a bad coaching decision by Gase?
No, he’s benching guys for not playing well so they aren’t necessarily your best players. He’s sending a message early that it’s not a popularity contest, it’s a performance contest. He said as much when he said it’s not about talent at this point, it’s about production.
Tim, Mike, FFR…excellent posts and points…Excellent!!!. So if I am to understand what your trying to say is that Tannehill Sucks!…got it….
LOL, thanks. So before anyone loses their shit. Yes Tannehill has to play better as well. 🙂
But if people are blaming him for the 1-3 start then I have no idea what they’re watching. Is he part of the reason? Yes, but it’s way beyond just him.
I am trying to make a commitment to myself not to blame anyone specifically and just watch the game each week and hope for a win. (There seems to be plenty of blame to go around at this point…LOL) I kind of got mad at myself for how I felt about the Browns win…like it was a loss, especially after Stanger came on and said he thoroughly enjoyed the game because it was a close exciting win. THAT is how I am going to try to watch the games from now on.
Tim,
You spent months telling us thy were building this team to win now. So, were the coaches insane? Or, do you think something changed…because this team was NEVER ready to win now. Don’t you think if they were building to win now, they must have at least had some inkling that this team was able o do it? Because all the stuff I’m hearing now is that they’re young and not ready to win.
I said the contracts say that. They put a patchwork team together on defense with some vets to compete now as the new coaching staff started putting their program together. I also said it may take some time for this team to click because most of them have not played together. And yes we’re also relying on a lot of young players to step up and that may take some time as well. That’s what we’re seeing right now. We’re 1-3, not 2-8. LOL
I also never said it was going to work. 🙂
Bookman, the Browns have been competitive in 3 of their 4 games. The Eagles beat them pretty good in week one. Since then they’ve given the Ravens, Dolphins and Redskins competitive games. Yet people talk about them like they’re the worst team anyone has seen and it’s simply not true. They just lack the star talent to overcome a lot of things. But they do compete. A win in the NFL is a win and nothing less.
Tim how does what i say translate into its only Tanny? I have pointed out the CB’s, i have pointed out OL, I have really pointed out the LB’s. So i dont get why just mentioning Tanny in conjunction with the rest, means i am putting it all on Tanny. I only feel Tanny should not be immune, and there shouldnt be excuses made for him, like “only reason he is playing bad is because the OL is bad”, or if our defense would just shut people out we could win with field goals…..lol I mean come on you think that the other side is bad, there are several of us labeled Tanny haters that are offering the same amount of non-bias as you think you are. If he was playing well, and it was just dropped passes, or never having any opportunity to throw or escape, id be supporting him as not the problem, but that just isnt accurate.
When did I call you out? I also pointed out everything you’re saying about other areas of the team. I look at the whole team, I don’t just blame the easy target even though he’s gotta step up as well.
For instance, at one point in the season the Mets were nowhere near making the playoffs because their lineup was back to having too many non-MLB bats, the top guys were slumping or injured and the pitching staff was falling apart literally. Those were not excuses, they were reasons. So how did they turn it around? They made some moves, guys got hot with the bats and some young pitchers from the minors stepped up and they went on a late season run and clinched the WC game at home. That’s more than I ever expected this season. But it took a lot of guys stepping up.
That’s what I want to see with this Dolphins team. Guys saying enough is enough and next man up doing their job.
Tim Knight says:
October 4, 2016 at 3:00 pm
No, he’s benching guys for not playing well so they aren’t necessarily your best players. He’s sending a message early that it’s not a popularity contest, it’s a performance contest. He said as much when he said it’s not about talent at this point, it’s about production.
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So bench Tanny….
It’s not my call and personally I don’t think any other QB on the team will change what’s been going on, so if I was the HC I’d stick with RT hoping he plays better. But that’s me.
At the end of the season if the team is down on RT because he didn’t progress enough and feel they need to move on we’ll know.
I’m team first. If we replace Tannehill at any point and the new QB plays well, you think I’ll be disappointed? LOL
ffr,
People have spent the last 4 years bashing, ripping and blaming the OL for our team’s losses. Why is it wrong to do the same to the QB? Folks want it both ways just because they don’t like hearing the QB getting ripped. Tannehill has been a major part of this team’s failure. Why shouldn’t he get blasted just as much as anyone.
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Plus, it’s the NFL. The QB gets the blame and the praise. Nobody complains when people give Tannehill praise. I’m tired of people acting like this kid hasn’t been a big part of this team sucking…just as much as any other player. Like it or not, it’s on him. That’s why he got paid…now he needs to earn it.
Those are two positions on a football team. If I said that people have spent the last 4 years bashing and blaming the DL, the LBs the DBs, I’d be telling the truth. What’s happening is that they’re all getting bashed and blamed. It’s just that individuals tend to pick one thing instead of saying it’s all those things. JMHO..
I also dont understand how the “Tanny lovers” feel like saying, well its a new system, its a new head coach, its a third OC, as a reason for Tanny not performing, but then the OL who had the same things going against them dont get the same comments made. This goes the same on defense, 3rd DC, why are they keeping Tanny from being successful? To me those just keep being excuses. You gotta choose, either the changes to the staff and system either affects all players or none, you dont get to pick that its hurt poor little Tanny and then be a dbag about some other guy that you just dont have any concerns for.
Joe Schad @schadjoe 2h2 hours ago
Koa Misi (neck) is practicing with a neck brace.
Oh geez!!! That just seems wrong.
Tim we wont the Browns game by pure luck. If we had beat them and it had not been because they had a square footed kicker, i would agree with you, but everything about that game, including the boneheaded fumble that put us in the position to lose was bad. We couldnt do shit with the ball most the game and we choked when it mattered most. Please dont sell me on that win was a quality NFL win against a tough team.
The game should have never been that close and it wasn’t because of Tannehill.
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley 15m15 minutes ago
Branden Albert was sick today. Dolphins sent him home.
Everyone is so ornery. This team better start winning so can we argue over who deserves the most praise or credit. That’s much more fun than pointing fingers and playing the blame game.
It’s funny how some people can’t look at the entire team honestly without going back to the same guy.
Does anyone know how many games our current OL has played together? Already we’ve had to shuffle guys in and out due to injury and performance. There is no chemistry there yet and I say that all the time as a reason not an excuse. That doesn’t excuse performance though, the play on the field still counts. So I’m consistent with why things are the way they are, not trying to defend anything. That’s how some of you guys roll, not me. There are reasons teams struggle.
I just gave a Mets example and how they turned it around with better performances by a lot of players. That’s what I want to see the Phins do, get some players back, start clicking and get on a roll for a few games. It has to start somewhere at some point or maybe it’s not going to happen. I’m going by what I see. I don’t predict stuff.
I know we are 1-3 now, and i am not normally a pessimist but i really don’t see us turning things around, not even to a 8-8 kind of season. Hell i think for most here 8-8 would just really piss people off lol, more of the same with no draft payout.
Tim Knight says:
October 4, 2016 at 3:35 pm
The game should have never been that close and it wasn’t because of Tannehill.
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Seriously….not any of it?
Tannehill was perfect in that game. P-E-R-F-E-C-T! lol
Very little part of it. He helped put us up 24-13 and then what happened? It comes back to complimentary football. At that point in the game I said okay defense time to shut the door. Did they shut the door? No, they opened it. That’s what’s been going on here for a bunch of years. One unit does it’s job and the other doesn’t. The defense makes a big stop, the offense goes 3 and out. The offense takes a lead, the defense gives it right back. That’s not because of one guy.
Hey Jahn great to see you. Glad things are going so well that’s awesome.
He had good protection on that boneheaded pick late in the game, should I blame rookie running backs for that?
WR must have run the wrong damn route! They do it all the time! Tanny is faultless!
I hope you’re being facetious. LOL
Of course I am.
Again, who is saying Tannehill hasn’t had his struggles either? It’s as if it goes unnoticed and people only read what they want to read. I haven’t seen anyone say Tannehill hasn’t struggled and none of it’s his fault. There is a difference between saying that, and it’s not just him.
See what I just said at 4:00 in reply to D. That’s been an ongoing problem for this team for years.
Man, first pick has us picking 3rd overall next year lol.
Good we can get a QB, a real one.
How come it was cool to hate on Henne but Tannehill gets a pass, they’re the same QB.
No they’re not and I never hated on Henne. I supported him and always said give him his 4 years to prove himself. He didn’t do it. Henne never got to Tannehill’s level. Not even close. Henne never had more TDs to INTs in a season, not one time.
Henne TD/INT with Phins 4 seasons: (didn’t play much at all his rookie season and had 0/0)
31 TD/ 37 INT
Tannehill TD/INT with Phins 4 seasons:
87 TD/ 54 INT
Tannehill is still a plus this year at 6/5 even though that’s nothing to be excited about.
Let’s not go overboard shall we. 🙂
Gotta ask – Are the Panthers 1-3 because Cam Newton sucks?
That D is getting gashed, they weren’t last year. Cam’s getting hit a lot more this year too.
Boo hoo! If you can’t be objective about your boy, then don’t bitch about Tannehill here. Newton is WORSE than Tannehill this season, and now he’s hurt.
They’re practically the same QB, except Tannehill has a higher completion pct.
Tannehill = Henne = Newton. lol
Whatever, keep believing we have a good QB.
Randy says:
October 4, 2016 at 3:18 pm
ffr,
Tannehill has been a major part of this team’s failure. Why shouldn’t he get blasted just as much as anyone.
not sure what you read but the majority of this blog is ripping just the qb position. if they ripped the other parts as much this blog would be more interesting. and i do think he deserves just as much blame as every one else, it is just that the majority of the conversation on here is just about him.
I haven’t seen Tunsil throw idiotic picks, or fumble just because he got hit.
D says:
October 4, 2016 at 3:24 pm
I also dont understand how the “Tanny lovers” feel like saying,
can you do me a favor and define who these so called “tanny lovers” are. all i see is everyone on here blame him. just some of us do blame other parts of the team just as much as him.
I was making a point, because other side sure uses Tanny haters a lot.
Son
You probably can’t find one post this season from me that said Tannehill is a good QB. I just don’t think he’s the main reason why we’re 1-3. He hasn’t played “good” with the exception of the late drive in the SEA game, the 2nd half of the Patriots game, and choice few other drives, but otherwise he’s been subpar
Just like you wont see one post from me where i have said it would all be sunshine and lolipops if we had a different QB. We are pretty fucked at this point, we have problems all over and i dont see us fixing enough of them as the season goes to have a better hope for outcome changes.Its not just those that defend him are being chastized, its coming as hard from the other side that any critique is followed by “he’s not the only problem” ….no shit we have also been saying that but including him isnt “he’s the only problem” its just saying he is part.
I don’t believe I’m singling you out D, but if you look, these posts exist elsewhere.
Tim Knight says:
October 4, 2016 at 3:45 pm
It’s funny how some people can’t look at the entire team honestly without going back to the same guy.
i hate agreeing with a murdering squirrel hater but that is exactly what i am saying
son of a son of a shula says:
October 4, 2016 at 4:17 pm
I haven’t seen Tunsil throw idiotic picks, or fumble just because he got hit.
yeah, and i havent seen tanny be a turnstile on the oline either.
If James got benched for the strip sack in the game against the browns then Tanny should have been benched for the stupid INT in the bengals game that basically gave them the game.
At least Moore should be taking some 1st team snaps (more than usual) to put tanny on notice. IF not then players will start to resent Gase for hypocrisy.
It’s fine that you feel that way, but none of us here determine that, that’s up to Gase. Send him an email.
Tim, you said “he put us up 24-13” then the D let the team down. Come on man, its not all him when it goes good and not on him when it goes bad. If you say that this game was all good from him with the flipping stupid ass strip sack that was absolutely on him, a lot of 3 and out drives that at no clock off, etc, then i dont know what the hell to say. Our D was on the field a lot because of all the 3 and outs, he also had two picks….so complimentary football ya know. He has to be good more consistently, he cant be good for one quarter and that make him good for the game.
son of a son of a shula says:
October 4, 2016 at 4:16 pm
Whatever, keep believing we have a good QB.
and you keep believing just cause they take a qb in the first round next year that that is the solution.
D says:
October 4, 2016 at 4:21 pm
I was making a point, because other side sure uses Tanny haters a lot.
i wouldnt know about that either. i try and make my life simple, i just hate the whole damn team
boulder,
on a simple approach that makes perfect sense. but no one here is at practice. no one sees what goes on there. far as we know james was making the same mistakes at practice.
all we can hope is that gase is smart enough to not do things that are hypocritical
I’m not following all the subtly on who thinks what, but I do want to point out that Tunsil levied the block that won the cleveland game.
He’s the real deal.
We’re seeing silly tit for tat stuff now. LOL
Brees is having another monster season and the Saints are 1-3. He’s on pace for over 5,000 yards and 40 TD/12 INT. It’s not just about the QB like people keep saying. Go back and see Marino. I mean geez guys.
What did everyone including fans of other teams and the media always say about why Marino never won championships? No running game and no defense. You still need a good overall team guys.
The Saints have No Defense – NONE
Marino and Brees have proven they are excellent QB’s Tannehill hasn’t proven anything
And why is Cam struggling without one of the best defenses in the league who lead the league in turnovers? Oh that’s right, they’re not that defense anymore. Pretty much makes my point. 😉
‘Its not just those that defend him are being chastized, its coming as hard from the other side that any critique is followed by “he’s not the only problem” ….no shit we have also been saying that but including him isnt “he’s the only problem” its just saying he is part.’
once again, who the heck defends him. i think….hell i wont even speak for others….i will say, i am just tired of reading here nothing but bitching about him. sure would be nice to address other areas of fault on this team as much as he is bitched about.
Jahndoh30 says:
October 4, 2016 at 4:29 pm
I’m not following all the subtly on who thinks what, but I do want to point out that Tunsil levied the block that won the cleveland game.
oh shut up, look over there, i think your beer is boiling over
Do the Dolphins just need time?
http://www.thephinsider.com/2016/10/4/13160568/dolphins-first-quarter-recap-struggles-adam-gase-time-needed
Being a founding member, I found the reference to the “Patience Brigade” amusing. Did EVERYONE used to visit the Sun Sentinel?
Oh and for the record Tannehill is not Marino or Brees so if they can’t overcome it, RT surely can’t. Now let’s accuse me of comparing Tannehill to Marino and Brees. LOL
The point is that despite horrible defenses Marino and Brees are excellent QB’s. If Tannehill had the No-Names he’d still be bad.
Our D hasn’t been blown out point wise this year where a game has been out of reach, we just can’t hold on to the ball and score enough. Mainly because of turnovers and bad passing. Really bad.
Cam doesn’t have the complimentary run game he had with Lynch, and now the defense isn’t the same defense, and all of a sudden, Cam is worse than Tannehill and has the same record. It’s a team game dammit! When you have a better team, it’s easier to play better.
You mean Wilson?
Oops, him too, but I meant Jonathan Stewart
Tim, you said “he put us up 24-13” then the D let the team down. Come on man, its not all him when it goes good and not on him when it goes bad. Pretty sure Ajayi scored one of those TD, pretty sure Landry turned a short pass into a big gain. If you say that this game was all good from him with the flipping stupid ass strip sack that was absolutely on him, a lot of 3 and out drives that at no clock off, etc, then i dont know what the hell to say. Our D was on the field a lot because of all the 3 and outs, he also had two picks….so complimentary football ya know. He has to be good more consistently, he cant be good for one quarter and that make him good for the game.
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/781332212679634944
THIS, we can ALL agree on!
True
Right on!
Our D was on the field a lot because of all the 3 and outs
I’m going to go ahead and say it.
Our D was on the field a lot BECAUSE THEY COULDN’T GET OFF THE FIELD! Make the other team go 3 and out and you can rest! Jeez
It was a combination of both IMO.
Might get you way sooner than later Mikey lol.
LOL – could be
I have blasted the OL plenty!!!! I don’t just reserve my venom for the QB. I am an qual opportunity ripper. Hell, I’ve been complaining about our inability to draft a decent LB for years! Zach was the last one…..20 years ago.
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It’s almost like my rants on Jake Long have been completely forgotten. Lol
Remember that it could always be worse!
that one win was like winning the superbowl. I don’t remember the last time I was so happy watching a phins game.
Tim Knight says:
October 4, 2016 at 3:45 pm
It’s funny how some people can’t look at the entire team honestly without going back to the same guy.
Does anyone know how many games our current OL has played together? Already we’ve had to shuffle guys in and out due to injury and performance. There is no chemistry there yet and I say that all the time as a reason not an excuse. That doesn’t excuse performance though, the play on the field still counts. So I’m consistent with why things are the way they are, not trying to defend anything. That’s how some of you guys roll, not me. There are reasons teams struggle.
I just gave a Mets example and how they turned it around with better performances by a lot of players. That’s what I want to see the Phins do, get some players back, start clicking and get on a roll for a few games. It has to start somewhere at some point or maybe it’s not going to happen. I’m going by what I see. I don’t predict stuff.
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Tim,
The difference with the Mets (LGM!) is that the players filling in for all the injured players have stepped up and brought us a WC berth. We can’t say the same for the Dolphins. You see the upper echelon teams, and even the Browns against us, plug and play back up OL most of the time with great success when a player goes down. Maybe it’s lack of depth, maybe it’s lack of talent, and maybe it’s poor coaching, but the fact of the matter is that we have had this revolving, deplorable OL for a decade now. We have four OL that are former first rounds picks and our OL still blows.
Our OL looked fine when we have the starters out there, well minus Pouncey who hasnt been in a game yet. Anytime Turner or Thomas come in you can expect minimum of 2-3 flat out bull rushes coming from the Dt spot. In Turners case he generally just whiffs on the block all together, Thomas just looks like he is having a fun ride on a slip an slide the way he very quickly gets driven back. Unfortunately thats who we turn to when we lose one extra guy on the OL. Just one. In this last game we had lost 2. We do really need tome players who are depth players, but we wont get it until our team has a solid lineup and we can start having higher round draft choices behind the starters. Its going to take a couple more drafts at the least and thats only if we hit on our prospects in both drafts. We really cant sustain injuries on OL, we have seen that every year so far. I still think we have something like 7 games total with BA, Pouncey, and James on the field at the same time, 0 if you want to include Tunsil.
I disagree with them looking fine. They didn’t run block well in the Seattle game (tough match ups, admittedly) and they didn’t look good in the Cleveland game. They looked better in 2nd half @NE, and looked like shit against Cin. My point to Tim was that other teams have OL injuries and they seem to be able to have players step up on a consistent basis, and we do not. Our OL is totally inconsistent, whether the starters are in there or not.
Miami Dolphins plan to change approach at running back
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article105936287.html
Very Nice read, But I wish he would quit Bashing the QB …. 🙂
Just Kidding RELAX !!!!
good i was hoping for that last couple of games.
Boy, NO ONE has preached about the RB by committee situation on this blog!
D,
And Bushrod has been inconsistent too. He’s been overpowered a lot. I don’t like him at guard. I hope he gets better.
Yeah i thought he would settle into it a little better but i feel the same he is off. I think his instincts are still as a OT, and i think he seems off just enough on his punch that they are getting underneath him and gaining leverage.
Whole Line needs to get more Push in Run game..
Brian in NY says:
October 4, 2016 at 5:38 pm
I disagree with them looking fine. They didn’t run block well in the Seattle game (tough match ups, admittedly) and they didn’t look good in the Cleveland game. They looked better in 2nd half @NE, and looked like shit against Cin. My point to Tim was that other teams have OL injuries and they seem to be able to have players step up on a consistent basis, and we do not. Our OL is totally inconsistent, whether the starters are in there or not.
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Seattle game was just brutal, they stacked the box and just came downhill at us over and over. I think you chalk that up to Wagner every bit as damn good as advertised. Browns running game wasnt bad, we just kept flipping the fuckers in and out and in and out so noone got a groove going. Thier averages were good, 4.6 YPA, so i think we were effective, we just didnt do it enough.
4.8YPA in Cincy game, again, not effective or just not doing it enough?
Just checked and we havent averaged less than 4.4 YPA in rushing game outside of the Seattle game and IMO thats to be expected.
I’ve said my peace. I also don’t refer to any of you as Tanny haters. I know many of you are done with him and don’t think he will ever change. That’s fine. I’m not totally there yet though he isn’t doing himself any favors. As long as he’s the starter I’m going to wish for the best and hope he and the rest of the team play better. Is that okay? 😉
I guess i can let you by with that…but you are really pushing it….. 🙂
I want the best for the team too, and whatever choice they make, i do hope turns out best. I just really have reservations right now that it will. T be certain, i dont necessarily think we have anything that will be better either, i consider us pretty much fucked any way they go. As you say its a team effort and there are so many broken parts, dont know if we can change enough of them, quickly enough, to actually get things back on track.
LOL, I never said I’m confident it will happen either. I’m hoping that we have no idea that a 4 game win streak is in our future until future says otherwise. 🙂
YPCA in a limited body of work is worthless. A lot of it is because of Tannehill. He was our leading rusher the first few weeks. LOL
Come on guys, we don’t run it consistently well at all. That’s looking at stats in the wrong way.
No its not, it shows when we do it, its effective, we give up on it, thats why its an average, because it what we are getting per snap, it may or may not tail off, but you cant say its a pointless stat and we dont do it well enough, ebcause we arent event trying to see if we do or not.
It’s two runs that bump up the average. I do not think we run it well at this time.
intercepted ? or Incomplete ?? 🙂
or he kept hold hit ground and fumbled.. 🙂
We don’t run consistently well, or consistently poor, we just don’t run enough period. How ironic is it that Lamar Miller is averaging 23 rushes per game, with just a decent 3.8YPC, and we’re averaging about 15 carries a game total. I think it’s crazy.
We are rushing it around 16 times a game…..sounds like the number we did with Philbin when we were all aying we didnt do it enough, and actually the game where we rushed the most, 25 time, we had a 4.6 average showing that more we do the better we are, so no that doesnt support your argument Tim.
Ha, see my post above you
We do need to run it More .. Keep the hounds at bay.. But if ya down 24-3 at the half…. Run game is gonna be limited..
And also Run Smarter, both in Play calling, and Vision.. Don’t be so predictable,.. .. I now go home.. Have a good one Peeps and Pigs..
It wasn’t like that in the SEA game or the CLE game, and we still didn’t run it.
25-115 in the CLE game. We couldn’t run against SEA, 20-64, Tannehill 5 for 17.
Well we are losing it passing so can be much worse lol….
I dont know Toba, but it sure looks like that Pats player is about to get a face full or Tanny nuts.
Well That is something we KNOW he HAS.. Like a Timex Watch..
I don’t think Gase has any confidence in our run game right now. Why should he?
We also feel behind on the scoreboard twice and were behind in TOP and plays called. It’s hard to catch up running for 0-3 yards.
^ What he said !!
Mike: In the article Wyoming posted, Gase admits we need to Feed the beast.. one or two guys for the game let them get in a groove.. He’s learning as well.. I expect an assassination of the Titans again this week.. and hopefully build from there.. although we do have that Pittsburgh game in there that will probably be a Bump/Block in the road..
He’s trying to find those two guys.
mike said
“It’s fine that you feel that way, but none of us here determine that, that’s up to Gase. Send him an email.”
You can say that about every post here.
LOL – I kind of thought that myself after I typed it, but , it was too late. 🙂
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Tim
OK, does he have confidence in the passing game, where Tannehill can’t find any receivers, and the O-line can’t protect him? What’s the difference?
Passing is how you have to try to come back and make plays. It’s a clock killer when you don’t run well.
You know me, I want balance as much as anyone. But if you’re getting stuffed too often in the run game you only have one other alternative. We didn’t get back in the Pats game running the ball.
Seems we’re doomed either way, but we never really stuck with the run. A lot of teams, even teams we’ve faced, like SEA, weren’t running well, but stuck with it. I don’t remember SEA’s average per rush, but it was pretty awful, but they just kept at it.
Passing is what you do when you are down very late int he game, we arent rushing much any part of the game.
Rushing sets up the pass too, so if you abandon it all together they just drop back and play coverage… then you cant complete passes.
“Jahndoh30 says:
October 4, 2016 at 4:29 pm
I’m not following all the subtly on who thinks what, but I do want to point out that Tunsil levied the block that won the cleveland game.
oh shut up, look over there, i think your beer is boiling over”
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LMAO! Did I mention a boilover at some point or do you know something about brewing beer???
I actually had not one, but TWO boilovers today…on the same boil! It was a clusterf$%k day, but the 2nd batch is about to knock out and I’ll be ready to go home and do taxes before my trip to Denver tomorrow.
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Which reminds me: Yes, Boulder, I’ll be there for GABF. My plate is pretty full this time around, but if you’re going to be in town, please reach out to me. I think you still have my number, but if not let me know and I’ll dig up the old emails.
Guys, we lost the TOP battle with SEA 34+ to 25+ and still ran it 20 times. We were getting stuffed. It’s not as cut and dried as just saying run it more. TOP plays a huge roll in games and what teams do.