from Wyo
Q – So after a somewhat horrible start the Fins have 4 home games and a bye.
Tennessee has played tuff
Pittsburgh will feast on our secondary
Bills will be tough us as usual
The Stej are like looking into a mirror (yes that is pathetic!)
So at 2-6 or at best 3-5 what is your take on the rest of the season?
I’m not going to say we’re only 2-6, or or 3-5, because I really expect that somehow, we’re going to turn things around, so after we beat TEN this week, it’s the explosive offense of PIT, with Le’veon Bell healthy, and and Antonio Brown, but for some reason, we’ve played the Steelers pretty tough, so I’m not conceding that game at all. We won the last one 34-28, got ripped off by referee Gene Steratore and his goons when they didn’t call a fumble, and also didn’t allow us to recover. That was trash, and because of that, we’re going to beat them every time we play them.
I say we beat TEN, PIT, finally beat the Bills, and then beat the Jets, who will at that time have Geno Smith as their starter, because Fitzgerald will have thrown 30 INT’s after 7 games. I’m not going to go too far in the future, but at 5-3, and 2nd place in the division, we’re not that bad off. 😉
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from Piggy
Q – Oinks to you Mike. Is it too early to talk about the draft? Do you have your eye on any position? How about players?
If you ask this pig, I say LINEBACKERS please. Have you noticed how well the Vikings defense is playing. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that they drafted Barr and Kendricks very recently.
Officially, it’s NEVER too early to talk about the draft, because football fans especially are draft obsessed, so it’s never too early. On the other hand, if it’s talked about in the sense that our season is over, HELL YEAH it’s too early! As I pointed out to Wyo, we’re going to feast on this homestand, right the ship, and be sitting in playoff contention at 5-3, so while the draft is always important, we’ll be talking about how good the team is playing, how Tannehill looks like the lightbulb went on, and Son will be raving about how well our QB is playing. Lou will be moving into a comfy rubber room, because after Tannehill plays well, well, what is there to complain about after all?
OK, back to the draft. We definitely need LB’s, but man, we also need DE’s too. Our current crop of talent at DE is on Medicare, so we better start finding young talent to rush the passer. Texas A&M DE Myles Garrett is a guy I have my eye on, and at ILB, Ohio St. MLB Raekwon McMillan. We’re going to need to fill other positions too, because after a full season, holes always open up, so we’ll leave it at that for now.
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from Bookman
Q – Mike,
The Dolphins begin an unprecedented 4 game home stand, and with a bye week inserted in there, will not leave the state of Florida for 5 weeks. Do you see this as the turning point, or breaking point of this season? In other words do you think they will win at least 3 of the 4 games?
Definitely the turning point brother, nothin’ like home cookin’! We will win ALL of these games, and everyone on this blog will be happier than a pig in shit, except of course for the Piggy, who is always as happy as that. I think Gase is working very hard to get us where we need to be, and although it hasn’t showed very much as of yet, I think Gase after the first weeks of trial and error is ready to commit to a regular lineup, and and there won’t be as much shuffling players around, especially with the starters, and more specifically, RB. We’re not going to see Damien Williams starting again, at least we better not! I think Ajayi and Drake are going to see a lot more action from now on, and I think in general, we’re going to see thos at most positions, although I did read that Gase wants to see more of Michael Thomas at S, which surprised me, because I thought Isa had played pretty well.
After beating Ten and PIT, the Fest will really have the fan base excited, and playing what now becomes a huge divisional game against the Bills, Hard Rock will be jumping with electricity, and the bills will be shocked at how loud the new and improved Hard Rock is, and it won’t hurt that the fans will be engaged as the team will be shooting for a 3 game win streak that that point. Can you dig it?
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from Tim
Q – Who do you think the two RBs will be when Gase narrows down the rotation to two? Also which one do you think will likely emerge as the lead guy? Thank you!
I think Ajayi will be the lead back for now, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s quickly overtaken by Kenyan Drake. I think Ajayi right now is more suited for the heavy lifting, as he’s done it before carrying a huge load at Boise St., while Kenyan, unfortunately oft injured, and also behind Derrick Henry, kept missing his chance. If Drake can stay healthy, he’d be ideal for offense, because although Ajayi caught a fair amount of passes his senior year (50), I think Drake looks more suited to catch the ball out of the backfield, and I think that’s important to Gase. Regardless, as you can see, I think the 2 guys going forward will be Ajayi and Drake. I think Foster is more of an insurance policy, at least I hope he is. I want to see our own guys brought along, Foster is done.
It’s going to be interesting to see how different the offense is when we start running the ball in earnest, and how much better it will look when we actually have balance. Look around, there isn’t a team out there that’s winning football games consistently by just throwing the ball all over the place, and although I do believe it’s a passing league, the rules are set up to enhance that, you still need to run the ball well, even with an elite QB, but of course to a lesser degree. I think if we can run the ball 25 times a game, it’s going to show positively on the scoreboard for us. Our defense won’t be on the field for 45 minutes, we’ll be getting into the endzone more regularly, and most importantly, we’ll be winning football games!
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from Toba
Q – Yo Mike E: what/who do you see as the result of the “ Feed the RB’s “ approach that Gase spoke of moving to in lieu of the Rb by Committee..
Who finishes the year with most carries and yards.. Do you see it still being 4 guys utilized equally ? or will a star arise..
Doug Patterson/Manitoba
Ha! Seems to be the popular topic! Like I said to Tim, I think Ajayi will be shouldering the load initially, but I think the more carries Kenyan Drake gets, he’s going to make it so you won’t want to take him off the field. Although RB wasn’t a huge need in the 3rd RD, and one could easily argue that we needed a LB, I think Drake is going to make us forget that, and for once, taking a RB early will pay off. I think Drake is talented, and he could be like a Chris Johnson for us. I know he’s not quite as fast Chris Johnson, but I he’s fast enough, and I think he will put his receiving skills on show for us this season too, and he will prove his worth.
It’s time to look at the future, and Arian Foster is a lot more the past than the future. He still has value, and gives us some depth, but I want to see Ajayi and Drake get lots of touches now, and if he really likes Damien Williams that much, maybe we cut Foster and let him hook up somewhere else, or just hold on to him, and break in case of emergency. That’s fine with me.
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And now for the babe of the week . . .
Oh, and FUCK YOU if you don’t like me as BOTW!
Finsmob Unleashed 
Morning Update
DOLPHINS-TITANS
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MikeE 31-17 MIA
Naples 30-13MIA
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24-13 Miami
Mike E slurpin up the Cool-Aid! 😉
Thanks for the incite!
No problem Wyo, thanks for the question!
Proud of the New York Mets. Listening to sports radio this morning, I’m embarrassed by how some fans react. With all the injuries the Mets had this season, you’d think fans would be pleased they had a great end of August and September to go 27-13 in their last 40 and give us a shot to continue in the playoffs. Nope, spoiled bastards call up and say “I don’t want to see Familia in a Mets uniform next spring”. Idiots! Dude saved 51 games this season, and you don’t get to the game last night w/o him. I feel bad for the kid, he was groomed as a starter, but when the Mets closer was suspended, he was asked to step in as closer, and the rest is history. Like it is with most closers and fans, you’re as good as your last game, but that just drives me crazy. He’s not perfect, but he has nasty stuff, and he’s still pretty young. Sometimes I hate sports because of a-hole fans I heard this morning.
You’d think Mets fans would just be happy we got to witness meaningful games in October, including a well pitched gem in a playoff game by one of our young ace pitchers.
Totally agree. I texted with my friend last night who’s a big Mets fan and he was being one of those fans. LOL
Damn! Xavien Howard was injured in practice yesterday, may miss Titans game.
Proof nobody reads what I post!
Other than Cheerleader pics! 😉
Not proof, I wasn’t on last night, I was watching the Mets game
Mike E,
That was a hell of a game. SF is so tough to beat in the playoffs. I have no regrets and they shouldn’t either. It was a much better way to end than the Orioles had to deal with. They played some of the best baseball out there the past few months.
They sure did New Age, and for that, I’m thankful. Playoffs always comes down to pitching, and last night, SF had the better of it. The fact that we were even involved in a 1 game playoff is amazing, this team showed tons of heart. I remember when we first signed Asdrubal Cabrera, I was skeptical of that move. Now, he might be my favorite Mets player. They have some tough decisions ahead, such as Cespedes (when he opts out), Neil Walker, Jay Bruce (I’d sign him, hope he does well, if not, trade him because a power hitting OF for $13M per is a bargain), and then they have to sort out the aftermath if they can’t sign Cespedes, and what they do to offset it. Then of course, we have to see what shape our pitchers are in, and if we even have 5 starters, and/or are Gsellman and Lugo 2 of them until Harvey, deGrom, Wheeler and Matz are ready. Ugh!
Those are good problems to have though. Lots of talent. I just wish the hitting was more consistent but they still played a great game and season. Next year looks bright.
Mike E — great answers as usghe, but this is one heck of a prediction.
“I say we beat TEN, PIT, finally beat the Bills, and then beat the Jets”
I’d say we probably go 2-2. 3-1 would be awesome, 4-0 would be a frick’n miracle
You doubtin’ me boy!
And Mike E — sorry your Metskies got “Bumgarnered” last night. All I can say is been there and done that. You guys should still hold your head high…great season, especially given all the injuries.
I hear you on that, and yes, you have been through that as well in’14. I’m just happy we were in that game, and I’m not mad at the team in the least. They made what looked like a dead season a very exciting one.
Mike E,
Your homer-aid is encouraging and I do hope we start ‘gelling’; or whatever needs done. We have a ton of time to get this thing worked out. The players just have to do it. I also agree with you and Piggleston the 3rd. I think DE is harder to get later but I’d love to see both a LB and DE in the first 2 rounds.
I can’t even explain why I have this faith, but you’ve been with me long enough to know that is not usually the case. I’m feeling good vibes bro! lol
another great Mike E
(Piggy googles Myles Garrett and Raekwon McMillan)
I did notice the BOTW’s finger looks a little old though….
New Age
If we don’t/can’t sign Cespedes, that’s a HUGE void in the lineup, and there really isn’t a guy currently in the organization that can come close to replacing the power bat from the right side. I wish we could find another solid right handed bat, we’re pretty heavy with lefties, assuming Duda and/or Loney are back, Granderson, Bruce, Conforto etc. I know Reyes and Cabrera are switch hitters, but Cabrera does most of his damage from the left side. OK, enough Mets, or maybe after today, we focus solely on the Dolphins. 🙂
I’m thinking we win 3 of the next 4
But if we go 4-0…
That will be incredible
We can DOOOOOO eeeeeet!
especially with comeback pig as my avatar
http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2016/10/06/miami-dolphins-targeted-derrick-henry-in-draft-landed-kenyan-drake/
I liked Henry, but felt Drake the better fit for us given what we had and the way the backs are used in this system. Still feel it was the right call. Now if we could have used that 2nd on Deion Jones, i think i would have been happier. We could have picked up the same CB’s that they were suggesting in that article, though we would likely have had missed out on Caroo to do it.
Not sure it was a matter of making the right call, they prioritized CB, and I agree, and then when our next pick came around, he was gone.
I have been thinking about what Gase is doing. I don’t think its all punishment, i think he is getting the younger players involved to strengthen the depth of this team and also to have leverage and more strategy in off-season for re-signs, etc. Its easy to point out most people on this team as not playing well, but i think the motivation is deeper. Think about it, if the drop off currently isnt much between your starter and your backup, you can get some motivation for the starter and increase the young guys development.
We need it, and we need it at most positions. I dont think we really have the quality at backup though to do it on the OL. With the idea that things can be turned around, even though i highly doubt we can turn things around to anything more than 8-8 finish, we probably cant bench Tanny, but he surely needs it. I really think it sends a bad message to say, this guy is excluded from the punishments dealt out to all the others. If we do find ourselves coming out of this next game with similar performance from him, in a win or loss, or we finish out this home stand in a at 2-6 or 3-5, i think you really have to consider bringing Doughty up and giving him a go. I also feel that regardless of how well things go through the end of the year, you still have to consider drafting a QB in a day 1-2.
I think that we can get at least one start right away LB in day 2, possibly 2, i might would consider LB as a day 1 this year, but it not early. There are no guys right now that arescreaming top 5-10 pick, but there are a bunch of them screaming latter first round talent, so many so that i think it backs up all the way to latter 2nd, maybe even early 3rd. I really am not impressed with McMillan, but i also havent really looked at him closely. Reeves-Maybin UTenn, Cummingham from Vandy, either Jarrad Davis or Alex Anzalone from UF, Reuben Foster or Tim Williams at Alabama, Beckwith, Richie Brown Miss State are all really good fits for us in a wide 9.
Im not feeling DE as a need, i know our guys are aging but i think given their current status, unless we lose someone, that DE would be better served grabbing a guy like Bryan Cox Jr, or Deatrich Wise from Arkansas, maybe Lewis Neal from LSU, as a guy to rotate with Wake his first year. Id much rather invest early in CB, because this is a fairly weak CB class. DE isnt super deep but deeper than CB for sure.
You had one job editor!
LOL
D
We need a difference maker on defense, really a couple of difference makers. Whether it’s 2 LB’s, or a DE and a LB, we need guys that really impact the game. We don’t have that now, at least not at those positions.
Really? SMH
Crazy!
The development where our place in Jupiter is had a mandatory evacuation. Not sure how bad it’s going to be but that doesn’t sound good.
You have a house in Jupiter?
family?
My in-laws place but my father-in-law passed away and my mother-in-law will never be back there, so it’s basically my wife and her brother’s place now.
Good job, Mike!!!
Thanks Tim
Tim — where in Jupiter……on the barrier Island part? That part is real at risk. Even not at it too.
Right by the intracoastal and ocean.
So in btwn the intracoastal and the ocean…..that’s the barrier isle part and heck yeah that is at risk. Those are primary first evac zones. Not sure if it was mandatory here, but the barrier islands are the only places down my way (farther from the worst projected hit zone) where the county told people “get out or you are on your own when the storm hits.”
Mike
you think we’re going to be 5-3 after this homestretch yet you’ve got you’re eye on Myles Garrett. How does that work?
He’s the best DE, I didn’t say we’ll be picking #1 to get him. You always look at the best.
Stanger, you can walk to the ocean in 5 minutes and intracoastal in 10 or so. It’s better by bike but yeah it’s right there. Friends of ours who live down that way battened down the hatches for us but we heard it was a mandatory evacuation.
Do you have anyone there to make sure the place is battened down?
Yes see my last sentence. LOL
Doh! Skipped right past it. lol
Well then sure does sound like it is up front and center for this. Least the five minutes walk to the water makes it sound outside of the worst storm surge vulnerability. But that just really means waves might not bash your place to pieces, but you sure as heck might get flooded.
And I have been to Jupiter, but only to the barrier Isle part, which would be the most vulnerable of all. What you described could be another area too even if it fits.
Nice friends btw…..they had plenty of their own stuff to worry about. Knock on wood — but looks like my main concern right now is power or not. Big difference.
The Barrier Island is the part with the intracoastal on one side and the ocean on the other right, with all the mansions? I believe Tiger Woods has a place there. We’re on the mainland but I have fished on the intracoastal side. There are some amazing houses there.
Not the part I have been too, but yeah it would include Tiger’s place. You try not to get too involved on the lastest changes in reports, but the latest track has the thing more out to sea. Awesome for me, and it takes Jupiter more out of the high impact zone area.
Rockphin says:
October 5, 2016 at 1:00 pm
If anything is bullshit it’s that. Tannehill’s comp % is higher because of the number of short passes he throws; especially the number of bubble screens he throws. His accuracy sucks so if he starts throwing too many intermediate passes his comp % would go way down and if you look at those stats you’ll see that it’s true.
Really?? why is he 4th in the league for completions over 20 yards? Why is he 6th in the league in completions over 40 yards?? This is another myth propagated by haters like you.
Ryan’s 7.8 yard per completion average is also the 6th best in the league. He doesn’t dink / dunk like you would have us think.
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87 of his passes, or 63% thrown 10 yds or less. His comp% 11-20 yds is 54% and from 21-30 is 43%. Like I said, he sucks throwing in the intermediate range. Read it and weep. His 7.8 yd per comp is due to yac.
and he’s 1 of 3 on passes thrown more than 40 yds. again, he’s got 3 over 40 because of …..get this, YAC.
In addition, 3 of his 5 int’s were thrown in the 11-20 range and 1 in the 31-40 range. But, I’m and hater that likes to make things up.
Nice job mike.
LOL @ winning 4 in a row. I’m sure that’ll happen.
You too? Awesome! 🙂
“After beating Ten and PIT, the Fest will really have the fan base excited, and playing what now becomes a huge divisional game against the Bills, Hard Rock will be jumping with electricity, and the bills will be shocked at how loud the new and improved Hard Rock is, and it won’t hurt that the fans will be engaged as the team will be shooting for a 3 game win streak that that point. Can you dig it?”
4 for 4? You’re damn right I can dig it!! Yeah man….righteous!!
I am confident in 3/4, and had that pegged at the start of the season. I would love 4/4, and I love the optimism!
It’s going to be a fun ride! Just do it!
Here ya go Mikey. Since you are in favor of keeping Tanny, and going big at DE in the draft.
R1P3 Myles Garrett DE Texas A&M
R2P3 Marshon Lattimore CB Ohio State
R3P3 Jarrad Davis ILB/OLB UF
R4P3 Jalen Reeves-Maybin ILB/OLB UTenn
R5P3 Travin Dural WR LSU
R6P3 Jeremy Sprinkle TE Arkansas
R7P3 Davis Webb QB Cal
Pick 3? 3?????? We’ll be picking like 17-20!!!! 🙂
I’m sure It’s just a typo
He forgot the 2 over and over again
“Pick 32” is what he meant
D do you want me edit your post for accuracy?
yes please . . .
Nice job Mike E even if I think you’re too optimistic about our playoff chances. Hulk thinks team needs to be blown up
Hulk happy when he’s angry
It’s complicated
We need to just start by winning a few games then see where we can go from there.
Gase, who has been loathe to criticize his quarterback, acknowledged recently that Tannehill needs to improve his pocket presence.
But Gase quickly added:
“I think we need to do a better job of actually blocking guys, too. Everybody wants him to step up. Where?”
That’s what I’ve been saying for years. What pocket to step up in? When protection breaks down Tannehill usually escapes to the outside because that’s the only place he can go. Most of our pressure comes right up the middle. That’s been an ongoing problem with this team for years. I’m so glad Gase recognizes that so he knows it needs to get fixed and soon.
Dont know how you cant see the opportunities to step up he has missed. There have been several.
Hell the fucking announcers who are calling the game have called him out for it…. I think you hit the nail on the head, Gase doesnt want to criticize and is holding back.
Mike 3rd overall pick is what first-pick is suggesting we will be picking at as of right now. You do know your pipe dream has to come true for 3rd overall not to be accurate lol
Yep – not a pipe dream though, just as likely as us picking 3rd to be honest
Picking 32nd is as likely us picking 3rd?….
Piggy said 32nd, I said 17-20
Oh ok. I think 17-20th is pretty out there too. Thats making the playoffs kind of finish, i very much dont see that either.
D
I hope you’re wrong man, I really do. I don’t want to hate my team and feel like we’re in a hopeless spiral and forever lost.
I dont think that, i just dont think this year will be the year where we break that cycle
Randy says:
October 5, 2016 at 6:51 pm
What I see from Kiko is a fairly quick guy that can get to the point of attack fairly well going sideline to sideline. He’s a small MLB like Zach. He can make plays if he’s kept clean and free to flow. But, run at him, and he’s easily taken out of the play. He also still seems slow in coverage…which is a little surprising
Randy I saw New England Run some plays against him where he had no chance whatever decision he made was the wrong decision by the design of the offensive play we had him fall into a Zone and Belichick have the tight end in the wide receiver cross directly in front of him if he leaned right towards one player or lean left towards the other player the quarterback would throw the other direction quickpass 8 yard completion plus yards after the catch
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Rockphin says:
October 6, 2016 at 2:01 pm
They did it again and again and our defensive coordinator didn’t make any changes
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D, I’ve seen it for years and so does Gase. I’ll trust my eyes and Gase saying the same thing thank you very much. The part about “Gase, who has been loathe to criticize his quarterback, acknowledged recently that Tannehill needs to improve his pocket presence.” was from Adam Beasley not me. It was from Wyo’s link.
You also challenged me the other day on why the LBs are looking exposed, that’s what VJ said. So take it up with our DC, I think he knows a little bit more about it than you. 😉
You don’t think he could have stepped up here? he’s like a statue.
https://twitter.com/SiriusXMNFL/status/781668971590225920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
In fairness Boulder, if he was going to step up, he had a very small window within to do it, because you see the guy come up in front of him too. He was probably staring down a receiver, and that’s why he didn’t see the opportunity to step up.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-dolphins-kelly-column-1007-20161006-story.html
Tim
that quote from Gase doesn’t say there is no pocket to step into
its says Gase acknowledges Tannehill needs to improve his pocket presence
and we need to do a better job of blocking guys
There is a lot of pressure coming up the middle
I agree with that
but the stuff people freak out about is often the strip sacks where the plays is coming around the edge and it seems like everything else is the stadium can see it coming – except Tannehill has no idea the guy is there
It absolutely says that.
Is that Tunsil on that play getting pushed back – yuk
I think think and NFL caliber QB should avoid that strip sack
at least the fumble if nothing more
tunsil got abused on that play.
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/781613677434793984
mike,
all he had to do was move to the right and ajayi was wide open. Rodgers and any other QB with some pocket presence do that routinely.
What I guess I’m saying is, on that play, he had no pocket presence, and I’d bet every QB makes that mistake from time to time. Unfortunately, he probably does it more than he should.
At the very least he should have tucked the fuckign ball away and not just held it out there for them to take. Two big men playing tummy sticks right beside you comes with a lot of grunting and groaning… ask FFR if ya dont believe me.
go look at the interception play he threw overthrowing Landry on a crossing route, people said oh James didnt give him time but the friggin announcers even said James blocked him about as well as can be expect on that play, Tanny needs to scramble out of the pocket. He had like 4 options on that play and he did none of them. Instead he stands there and the throws an off balance throw right to the defender.
The one in bengals game? That was so much like a henne pass that I almost threw up in my mouth when I saw it from coaches film.
there was a similar play to the one Tannehill lost the ball on with Dalton and he moved up and slid to his right to buy time. if Tannehill moved up quicker he would have been able to do the same thing. except, he did the lame thing.
Im sorry Tim ill trust my eyes over yours, and Gase didnt say he didnt miss opportunities to step up, he just said the OL always give him that chance. You read what you want to, but i have watched plays and known before the pressure came that he was past his timing on that play and should have gotten rid of it, and i have seen on those same plays exit opportunities by the time he should have bene looking for one. He can keep his eyes downfield and still notice pressure, he can also keep his eyes downfield and notice the plaes to step up. The int in the cincy game, BIG time open to the left side of the line, and he was looking that way and had the receiver the play was designed for coming open that direction, instead he stands there, he literally goes into a statue mode and then as the guy is falling against his legs….which still arent moving he off balance throws the fucking thing right to their defender. Please dont try to sell me on he doesnt get an opportunity to escape because he damn sure does.
If you guys think his problem isnt pocket presence….like 0 pocket presence then you are kidding yourselves.
list:
poor pocket presence
doesn’t move around to avoid pressure
poor ball placement
piss poor comp% beyond 10 yds
poor ball security. hell even Wentz knows enough to hold onto the ball with 2 hands
difficulty reading a D.
poor progressions
can’t get the ball out quick to a receiver. takes too long to make a decision and ball gets there late on too many throws.
batted balls
Yeah Piggy, that was Tunsil. He never got his anchor set, total abuse on that play. James actually did what he was supposed to. Look at the OG’s though, he had at least 3-4 yards to step up in that pocket.
I don’t blame james at all on that play. He did what he was suppose to do. QBs usually take a couple of steps forward after their drop. Tanny just stands there SMH
^when they feel pressure.
3: R1P3 CB TEEZ TABOR FLORIDA
35: R2P3 QB CHAD KELLY OLE MISS
98: R3P34 EDGE BRYAN COX FLORIDA
145: R5P3 LB PAUL MAGLOIRE JR. ARIZONA
176: R5P34 G GREG PYKE GEORGIA
182: R6P3 LB HARDY NICKERSON ILLINOIS
221: R7P3 S JORDAN STERNS OKLAHOMA STATE
Wyo
Is that Hardy Nickerson’s kid?
Mike E likey
Father played 16 seasons in the NFL, earning four All-Pro and five Pro Bowl selections, is a member of the Cal Athletic Hall of Fame, still ranks second on the school’s all-time list for tackles
http://www.fightingillini.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6695
Yeah, I looked it up. Used to love watching his dad play. Very good LB. I’ll take his son if he’s as good as his dad was
Thats a nice draft Wyo, Tabor and Cox Jr would give us some nice young anchors on our defense, and addressing the elephant in the room. I dont see taking a guy like Kelly as a fuck off to Tanny as much as could be necessary if he continues to play this way, or even a needed insurance plan/future plan if he does bounce back some.
I think Cal’s QB Davis Webb is a pretty undervalued guy right now, somewhat under the radar guy that if we didnt feel pushed to go 1st/2nd at QB we probably could find value in him in a mid round. I prefer to really go strong at the position this year though kinda how you mocked it. If Jalen Reeves-Maybin was there in the 4th i would have taken him over your guy.
I think with the way i feel about Tanny right now, even if he closes out the season well, im still going to be skeptical about any chance of having consistency in the future. It might buy one more year with me, but i wont jump back into a place of confidence. Ive done that already with him a couple of times now and yet here we still are.
Not sure I quite understand this, but you’re entitled to your opinion. We’ve only played 4 games, so if he plays well in 12 games, that’s practically a season.
Also you are talking about something he has never done….string 12 games together in a row that were good….do you really feel he wakes up tomorrow and it happens?
Mike its more than 4 games, you do remember 5 previous years of similar levels of inconsistency right?
Sorry 4 previous years.
A beat writer in Jacksonville chose and unusual choice of words to describe Myles Jack’s first start
http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/jaguars-beat-writer-suggests-jack-off-to-a-great-start/
Someone posted that earlier, either that dude did that on purpose or he and his editor are the most naive idiots on the face of the earth.
Evening Update
DOLPHINS-TITANS
Piggy 33-14 MIA
MikeE 31-17 MIA
Naples 30-13MIA
B’man 38-13 MIA
Howie 30-10 TEN
Jahn 28-23 MIA
Old 20-17 TEN
UK 20-17 MIA
N/A 31-21 MIA
Toba 31-16 MIA
Wyo 24-13 MIA
GO PHINS!!!
D
I don’t remember 4 years of inconsistency, I remember a kid that improved a little each year until his 4th year.. Last year was a bad year for Tannehill, and a bad year for the team as well. We were awful last year, and although Tanny didn’t help us out of it, it wasn’t him who got us into it either. I think some of us are tougher on our own guys than we are on other QB’s around the league.
Of course we are, we care more for our team so we want someone who is going to help our team. I dont think he helps us and i care a lot more about the team than i do for him individually.
You remember 3 years of acceptable inconsistency because he was still developing….He was most certainly inconsistent, its just there was a reason to expect it….year 5 MIkey, year 5….this isnt a time to be expecting him to still have that new QB smell, he should be there, and if he isnt, then i dont think you can be confident it miraculously turns around.
Mike i know you are trying to stay positive, but when you look at probability, and oyu looke at 5 years of data saying that nnot just game to game, but half to half and sometimes only a quarter of a game is good but the rest bad, how cant you feel confident that tomorrow, he turns into this guy who for 48 straight quarters plays good football. Seriously we are very lucky to get 4 in a row at this point.
They brought in a guy to get him right, and we’re not even willing to see if it works? That’s what I mean. If the guy plays well for the next 12 games, why would you think that he would go backwards again?
To Hell with that long list of Tanny Flaws
He just doesnt/cant make things happen!
I’m Howard
Certified Tanny Hater!
Ill be glad to say i was wrong, i mean he is going to get the opportunity to prove me wrong it looks like, since Gase wont treat him like he does others, but if he does pull miracle, we win and ill eat my words, but i promise you it wont make me feel the next year will be better, but it surely would give me a lot more hope than i currently have.
“We were awful” is includes Tanny…. “Tanny haters” understand this…..
Damn, I said it was a bad year for him, do I have to take a shit on him to meet your approval? lol
Mike E. says:
October 6, 2016 at 6:33 pm
They brought in a guy to get him right, and we’re not even willing to see if it works? That’s what I mean. If the guy plays well for the next 12 games, why would you think that he would go backwards again?
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Thats not the point Mike, the point is i do not see that happening…and with everything being what it is and the first 4 games showing not just no deviation from the previous patterns but a continued acceleration of them, then no i dont think its working. There has been no indication it is. He still cant read a defense, he still doesnt understand play development, he still doesnt put the throws where they need to be consistently, he still doesnt feel pocket collapsing, he still doesnt protect the ball in critical times, etc etc etc.
Right, but we haven’t been playing to win, we’ve been playing the evaluation game so far. Let’s see what happens when we stick with the right guys.
What part of im still a Dolphins fan isnt continuing to see if it will work out….Im still going to watch the games, im still going to watch them put him out there, im still probably going to scream throw it after 3 seconds have ticked by and he is still staring down the same target…. Im still going to be on the edge of my seat when we lose close ones, im just over hoping for a change that is has in no way shown me is actually going to happen.
D
I think he needs to feel confident again, and my guess is, he’s not feeling that at all right now. He puts together a good game, that gets it started, and it might also get the team started, and then we stick with players that should have been playing all along, and the team gets confident, and it starts rolling. Of course I’m being optimistic, because I want the team to succeed, and this year, if he doesn’t succeed, the team doesn’t.
Ya know Mike though, at some point, confidence is a personal problem. If he doesnt have it for himself, no one can give it to him. I do agree he has confidence issues but thats also where im losing hope. He doesnt seem to be able to shut out the noise, pull up his panties and get back to fucking doing things. He doesnt believe he can do it, and there isnt anything fans, or teammates or coaches can do about that. Maybe Philbin broke him, but that’s of no consequence now, he doesnt seem to be getting unbroke.
FWIW, i hope you are right and i am wrong, it would be a lot easier to have him miraculously fixed and productive than start over. You really think thats what i want? Its not, its just what i have come to feel is the hard reality.
Your last statement is EXACTLY why i feel like i feel. If he doesnt succeed the team doesnt….and my feeling is he wont and we wont. I want that to end just like you i just feel its more likely going to be someone else get us there than him.
OK, I get that, but sometimes it’s hard to tell if you want him to succeed or fail, so we can just move on. Just being honest, it’s how it looks to me, and not necessarily from you specifically, but mostly the more vocal anti-Tannehill people.
D
Half the people on here are calling for his head, for Doughty, for Moore, or Bortles, or whatever, that’s what I mean.
Im calling for better….wherever and whenever it can get here. I dont care if it comes from a miracle, i dont care if it comes fro, replacing him, i dnt care if it comes from riding out the rest of an already bad season and drafting for new hope. Whatever gets us there and fastest possible. I definitely have less of a level of hope with continuing the path we have been and expecting completely different results. I am actually pretty stuck between riding it out with him, or just bring in Doughty now because i think the end result is a high draft pick next year from either choice.
Hey, at least your being honest. I think it would be a huge mistake to do that, pull the plug, and it hurts the team financially next year too. Tanny has a $10.4M dead money cap hit next season.
Actually there is an out clause that keeps it from being that hard. I do understand that it comes at a cost, but so does continuing to ride with a guy who is dragging you down.
Mike E. says:
October 6, 2016 at 6:51 pm
OK, I get that, but sometimes it’s hard to tell if you want him to succeed or fail, so we can just move on. Just being honest, it’s how it looks to me, and not necessarily from you specifically, but mostly the more vocal anti-Tannehill people.
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I would say im not either of them. I dont care if we succeed with him or someone else, i just want the TEAM to succeed. I dont want him to fail, at least as long as we depend on him, but only because he takes us down with him. I am not sure i can express where i am any better because its neither of those because my focus isnt his success or failure, but ours, the teams.
So do you really think the team succeeds with Brandon Doughty starting instead of Tannehill?
D
It’s like I never wanted Jordan Cameron here, I thought he was overrated, concussion prone. The big difference is, the TE isn’t the most important position on the team. No biggie if he pans out, or doesn’t. I mean it’s bad for the team that he hasn’t really done anything since he got here, but the TE doesn’t make or break a season. The QB doesn’t either, but it’s the most impactful position on the field. I want him to succeed because it’s better for our team.
Again, thats also my point. You can survive if your TE sucks, but if your QB is bad, you cant expect much of the offense to work. I mean if a defense has no confidence the QB can beat them, they stack the box and fucking kill the run game and crush the QB with pass rush. They go cover 0 or cover 1 and just maul you. If your TE sucks they just dont worry about covering him closely lol.
So do you think I don’t understand that, and that’s why I root for Tannehill to improve? Just wondering
I think Mike our whole position boils down to this, we believe and want the same thing. You think things still have a chance of turning around for him, and i dont. Other than that we are pretty much on the same page, about how we feel about our team.
Fair enough D, I can live with that
Mike E. says:
October 6, 2016 at 7:02 pm
So do you really think the team succeeds with Brandon Doughty starting instead of Tannehill?
yes, that or the guy selling sodas in section 212. i mean anything is better then thill. it doesnt have to be rationale it just has to be cause someone says so
Rob
With some people, and they know who they are, that couldn’t be more true.
mike,
this is why i just skip over your silly blog. you dont know anything about football. all this team needs is another marino. then they can just rely on one of the best qbs to ever play the game to not win a damn thing. they wont win but also no one will complain about the qb.
it is like some on here dont remember one of the greatest to ever play still didnt win a damn thing for this team cause there was no other talent around him. like they think it is so easy to just go find another greatest ever qb cause they come along at the rate of 38 a year.
Rob are you ever out of troll mode? lol.
Mike,
I’ve been really busy lately, so I haven’t had time to send in a question. So here goes:
What were you smoking when you wrote that we would win the next four in a row? Would it be possible for you to bring some to the fest?
Sure thing. It’s Homer-Aid, completely legal in all 50 states.
Interestingly, last couple of years I was definitely more you and you were more me lol.
Lol! JBB. I hope that you are right. I’d be really happy with 3-1, flipping out with hope at 4-0
If he does please post while y’all are on it. I need a good laugh lol.
D says:
October 6, 2016 at 6:52 pm
Im calling for better….wherever and whenever it can get here. I dont care if it comes from a miracle, i dont care if it comes fro, replacing him, i dnt care if it comes from riding out the rest of an already bad season and drafting for new hope.
first like that is so easy to find. and then second what then, the offense has to score 54 a game to even have a chance. yeah well no thanks i have seen that movie before. i think working on a team rather then one player is the way to fix this shit fest
How does that make sense. If i can only fix the other 21 guys…. Come on Rob you are better than that. It takes addressing all areas of concern, team is only stong as its weakest part, but umm he’s one of the weak parts bro. You have to fix that position too and if you just keep riding with what isnt working you are just delaying that another year and another and another. I understand you like pain, but arent your nipples purple by now from the punishment you keep dealing to yourself?
D says:
October 6, 2016 at 7:16 pm
Rob are you ever out of troll mode? lol.
sorry, but dont talk to me, you are still a D in my book. you and your fucking birthday jokes. fucking D. 🙂
LOL, she hates tanny doesnt she…this is a spite thing isnt it 🙂
It hit me today that I’ll be in Miami in 8 days!
Wow, you’re going the 14th? Why so early?
Bri
Why not us? The football gods have to smile on us sooner or later
D,
And come on. this shit of just bashing the qb just gets real old. it isnt like there is any guarantee anyone that is drafted is going to be any better. these elite qbs that every one wants come along ever 5 years of so.
so to just talk about replacing only that position just gets so narrow minded and boring. i get it is the easiest target but it is just boring by now.
No guarantee it will be worse either. Just sayin.
Im also not pushing for it man. You didnt read my other posts im sure, but i could go either way, i just dont have confidence that Mike has that it turns around. I cant believe that 80 quarters of up down up down up down just miraculously patterns out into 48 straight quarters of smooth sailing. Its just not in my nature to lie to myself this damn long before calling myself out. I was all in on Tanny as soon as we drafted him and it wasnt until last year that i started to sour, i even was pretty damn excited to see the new Tanny this year with Gase the Qb whisperer telling him how purdy his mouth was and how he shure did like how he flung that football. Reality kinda sucks.
D,
my whole point is it isnt just one guy, this whole team is a shit storm with the exception of one of two players. i am just saying this day in and day out just bashing the qb is boring. i mean how many more ways can some say he sucks.
and why are you so interested in my nipples
I see your point, but as Miek and i hashed out…we arent probably far off on our feeling regarding it. I know its a team game, i know other parts have to be fixed, im for fixing those too, i just dont want to keep dancing around the elephant in the room. If he can improve, so be it, great, one less thing to fix, but i dont believe thats how its going to go and i think i have my reasons for that.
BTW, for a man who chains other men to a couch in his basement, why wouldn’t you think i would be interested in your nipples?
wouldnt
D
I went over to the other side – It’s a yin and yang thing. I have to keep the balance
Mike E. says:
October 6, 2016 at 7:16 pm
Sure thing. It’s Homer-Aid, completely legal in all 50 states.
just make sure at the fest it doesnt turn into homo-aids.
LOL
Rigel Spikes @MF13SS · 3s3 seconds ago
#PrayersUp for my many friends and tweeps in #Florida. May you all be safe and secure as #Matthew passes through tonight.
Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero
Mike Mularkey was hoping Sunday’s game vs. Miami would be played in Nashville. He’s going to be disappointed.
Rob
I’m not going to really have any control over that. What happens at the La Quinta stays at the La Quinta. lol
You do know the other adage right….what makes it on the internet stays on the internet….for your children to later accidentally stumble on and become very disturbed by seeing.
True that bud, but I’m not staying at the La Quinta
‘ i just dont want to keep dancing around the elephant in the room.’
come on D (yeah yeah i know every womans fantasy) but who in the hell is dancing around that. that is my point, it is all this blog talks about.
and i only chain up big green dudes in my basement to keep the world safe.
I think its all the blog talks about because we all talk about this team and a lot of peoples views are centered around a QB on a team and generally its polarizing feeling people have towards them. It may not be fair but it is what it is, they usually get most the praise when things are going good and most the ire when they arent.
Rob
How is the weather situation by you now? Getting crazy yet?
Rigel Spikes @MF13SS · 3s3 seconds ago
#PrayersUp for my many friends and tweeps in #Florida. May you all be safe and secure as #Matthew passes through tonight.
Nice M! Good stuff
How are you M? What’s good?
Just chillin’, hoping our season turns around quickly while thinking about the good people of Florida on this blog, bud. How are you?!
Doing well man. Still at work, and still smarting some from the Mets loss last night. Not because I’m mad at them, I’m not, very proud of them, but sad there’s no more Mets baseball to watch. I really enjoyed the last 2 months.
D, I wouldn’t think you would trust someone else’s eyes over yours. It’s no biggie. I was just posting something that I’ve been seeing for years that Gase agreed with. It also didn’t exonerate all of Tannehill struggles, but it’s part of a team issue that’s been going on for years. That’s all. I see it every week. It’s okay to disagree.
M13,
Long time no see my friend! I hope that you have been well.
Great to see ya, my friend!!! I’m doing alright and I hope that you are too!
GO PHINS!!!
GO PSU!!!
Yes! I’m not too thrilled with Franklin. You?
M13, come around more often will ya. I think the separation has gone on long enough. 🙂
🙂
Totally agree!
Agreed. You are truly missed over here.
Mike,
I’m going to the game against the Steelers, you know, the one you were supposed to be at as well! I hope those football Gods do smile down upon us, they have been cursing us for years!
Ah shoot, I forgot. I thought you weren’t going, the tix were crazy high.
My best friend really hooked me up with new garage doors, openers, the works (he does this for a living). He only charged me cost for the materials, no up charge and no labor- Saved me thousands. He’s paying for his flight, I’m paying for the rest.
omg the sky is falling, first D asking about my nipples and now m13 making an appearance. what a happy night
That’s a great night in my book!
Piggy,
“But Gase quickly added:
“I think we need to do a better job of actually blocking guys, too. Everybody wants him to step up. Where?”
He’s clearly saying what pocket to step up into.
There he is. I miss you M13
This fucker is heading straight for me.
We got this!
Brian, whatever Mike neglects to bring your pal son will have. 😀
LOL! Good man!
Haha! Looking forward to seeing you and the Mrs.!
And trust me M13 you are “deplorable”. Lol
Mike E. says:
October 6, 2016 at 7:44 pm
Rob
How is the weather situation by you now? Getting crazy yet?
no, but the neighbors are getting a bit pissed off as i keep walking around the neighborhood and going what, it is my hurricane warning device as i am walking around naked tell them trust me it only gets up if some crazy as bitch is coming to fuck with my life.
Son
So what’s going on down in FLA right now? Is it stirring up already, or calm before the storm?
Besides hoping everyone stays safe with the hurricane which is most important, I also hope it doesn’t create so much damage that it fucks up the fest for all of you. Florida might be a mess in the aftermath. This storm is friggin huge and violent.
LMAO Rob
Brian in NY says:
October 6, 2016 at 8:08 pm
Yes! I’m not too thrilled with Franklin. You?
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I through with Franklin, Bro. He’s had his chance and I think he’s already worn out his welcome. I had high hopes for him, but I think it’s time to move on. #PSU
Agree 100%. He’s had some decent talent there (LOVE Saquon), but he has really underwhelmed in his game preparation. Too many losses to lesser schools (Rutgers, Temple, etc.) and we are not even in the same league as OSU, Michigan, MSU, Wisconsin, etc. right now.
Tim Knight says:
October 6, 2016 at 8:06 pm
M13, come around more often will ya. I think the separation has gone on long enough.🙂
that is bs, he is still months behind in his alimony
Brian in NY says:
October 6, 2016 at 8:09 pm
That’s a great night in my book!
i kind of agree, my life isnt normal unless the sky is falling
son of a son of a shula says:
October 6, 2016 at 8:10 pm
And trust me M13 you are “deplorable”. Lol
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LMAO!!! THANK YOU!!! 😀
I miss you too, my Brother from another mother! I miss talking music with you, especially! You are a good man, Son.
If I have power tomorrow night come by and we’ll jam some tunes like we used to.
It was calm this afternoon but we’re starting to get winds now and just had some serious hard rain. The worst will be after 2 am around then who knows what will happen
Are you staying where you are, are you in a safe place?
FFR,
You still ROCK, Brother! Make sure you let the NLCs up for some exercise, though… keeping them consistently chained down will result in atrophy. We need those tight bodies to work for us. 😀
He traded them for dudes don’t let him fool you
😆
Son,
You stay safe now, ya hear? Batten down the hatches and keep the Mrs safe.
I’m battened down as much as I can
We’re staying at home it’s out of my hands now.
I have an axe and a sledge hammer, I’ll be fine.
Oh and a flashlight…
i think want to start hanging out with m13. that boy has more brothers from another mother that even i think i have a shot at getting some.
I’ve gotta run, but I’ll be back sporadically. It was really good conversing with y’all!
Mike E is a VERY good man. Thank you, my Brother!
GREAT to see you M13. Come back soon brother.
You too M, a real pleasure to see you on here tonight, bringing good wishes! Brings joy to my heart! You’re a good man M!
Stay safe my Florida brothers.
son of a son of a shula says:
October 6, 2016 at 8:18 pm
He traded them for dudes don’t let him fool you
oh like you could have stop that big green monster from moving in too. all you would have been crying is ‘cam, cam, cam…CAMMMMMM protect please’
Mike E. says:
October 6, 2016 at 8:22 pm
You too M, a real pleasure to see you on here tonight, bringing good wishes! Brings joy to my heart! You’re a good man M!
and the start of the homo-aids happens.