Game Day! Titans @ Dolphins – Week 5

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  1. Tim Knight says:


  2. 81Howie says:

    Old 45-13 PIT
    Howie 51-6 PIT
    N/A 48-16 PIT
    Wyo 42-17 PIT
    Piggy24-21 PIT
    B’man38-13 PIT
    MikeE24-23 MIA
    Rock 41-6 PIT
    Bold 27-7 PIT
    GO PHINS!!!

  3. Brian in NY says:

    To all the players who were set- good riddance.

  4. bookman11 says:

    I would have like them to get rid of these players before the season, but I am glad they purged them now. It shows to me that Gase id making this his team and is not concerned about when these players were drafted, or anything like that. I think he wants effort, and if they don’t give effort, and can’t perform, they are gone.

    This is refreshing. I remember comments associated with Dan Campbell last year that it was refreshing that he was trying to shake the team up., and wanted players on the field who gave effort. I see this as similar except Campbell was auditioning for a job, and Gase has the job for at least a few years, so I think this is the way he is going to operate.

    I like Tim’s comment about changing culture….I think that is what this is about, not necessarily a quick shock factor.

    • The culture change is long overdue and maybe Gase is earning the respect of players by ridding the team of guys who are just going thru the motions. Could be a morale thing when you’ve got players who aren’t pulling their own weight but still hanging around for no reason and the coaches are standing up there telling everyone how hard Dallas Thomas has worked in camp. As a player, you probably get tired of hearing stuff like that when you know what happens when he plays. If you’re the LT or C you probably dread playing alongside someone like that.
      It makes everyone’s job harder when you’ve got others who aren’t doing their jobs. So, yeah, I’m not thinking a quick shock factor either as much as I’m looking at it in terms of a long-term effect to boost overall morale of the team but also to show other players if you don’t do your job we’re not keeping you around and also we’re not keeping guys around who can’t help the team and that puts more on everyone else to work harder when you’ve got others who aren’t .

  5. Mike E. says:

    Please send in your questions



  6. stangerx says:

    Do think it sadly funny that we have been following Thomas, Turner and Douglas for a while. Debating which one might make it.

    Gase’s answer was “none of the above.” Sorta funny how he did it all at once though. Wonder if he would want Richie on the team right now.

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      If the answer was none of the above then why wait 5 games before you cut them? This whole everyone starts with a clean slate is bull crap.

      Imagine if parcell took over the phins and said everyone starts with a clean slate? So we keep cam cameron and john beck and then get rid of them 5 games in? That laughable. There are game tapes for a reason.

      • stangerx says:

        I never claimed everyone started with a clean slate. It was all three at once that got me.

        I sorta figured (1) Gase was sending a message, (2) he has gone into building for the future mode and (3) he also figures his job is safe for next season, least for now.

        He can now go to Ross and say, “could’;t make the playoffs with this roster anyhow.”

  7. The Flying Pig says:


    I think you are right on all 3 points
    But I think Boulder is saying what I have been saying

    Why not do this in the offseason?

    I’m not comfortable at all with treating the first 5 games of the season as some sort of learning curve for Gase
    I’m not comfortable with Gase “sending a message” that he failed to do before the season started

    Here is the message I want him to send: “I put the best team on the field bc I that gives us the best chance to win”
    Not “I’m figuring out what the best team is”

    We all know those 3 OL sucked. Why didn’t Gase act on it during the summer.

    Was the 2016 season just a throw away season to him?
    That is what I am seeing

    • Tim Knight says:

      You guys are making too much out of cutting 3 backup OL, and one was on the PS. These guys weren’t starters and when Turner and Thomas had to start due to injuries, they failed miserably. Gase probably simply stated I can’t put those two out there again. So we moved on from them.

      I don’t think it had anything to do with a throw away season. They tried to win every game but couldn’t. We’re not that good.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        They failed miserably long before the Tennessee game

        and either it was missed or it didn’ t matter to Gase

    • stangerx says:

      Pig — who really knows, but keep in mind that Tannenbaum was the guy who really chose the moves here and Gase was the youngest coach in the NFL walking into the building.

      Who knows — but in a way this might be a power move by Gase to now do what he wanted to do before after the first five games.

      Least with the Jets, Tannenbaum was the build for NOW guy. And flip side of that is a HC wants to build his own roster/culture and rebuilding mode (or some lesser level of that) gives him more job security cause expectations are lowered.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        it was reported yesterday (By Andrew Abramson) that Gase has the power to cut guys

        Think about what we do know instead of what we don’t and make a judgment from there:
        1. Gase had the power to cut those guys before the season
        2. He waited until 5 games into the season to do it
        3. Those guys never played well for us

        Now apply what you do know and conclude whatever you want

        My conclusion is that Gase is either to slow to act or never really viewed 2016 as a season to be competitive

        Sorry Guys

        You want blood and to see guys cut
        fine – you get it

        but there is a bigger picture here
        either a plan or a failure by the coaching

      • stangerx says:

        Gase might have very well had the power, but having it and using it are two different things. Tannenbaum has outside the roster power. So they have to work hand-in-hand more or less.

        And very well might be what happened was a joint decision btwn the two of them rather than a power move by Gase, and if that is true on such he would be the one announcing.

  8. The Flying Pig says:

    I will also add to this to my WTF statement

    I think Gase was outcoached against the Browns and against the Titans

    The first few games (Belicheat, Lewis, Carroll) I don’t really have a problem with it, bc those guys have experience

    But Here comes a new coach doing a half ass job, and its now okay to starting purging the roster

    Gase needs to do a better job
    the 2016 season is part of his job
    not just a season to figure out how to do his job in 2017 and 2018

    I don’t need to win
    I would like to win, but I’m okay being a team that is no so good in terms of record

    but the team looks like shit all season
    And that is a reflection of the coach

  9. BoulderPhinfan says:

    I know you never said that. That’s what Gase said last off season. Gase should have been watching game tapes of these players when he got hired and go rid of trash in the offseason instead of 5 games in when we’re out of the playoffs.

    • Tim Knight says:

      What’s the difference? So maybe we have two other backups go out there and do the same thing and they get cut. Teams cut players in-season all the time. It’s hard to find a quality starting 5 on the OL never mind depth. We can’t even get our starting 5 on the field at the same time. Hasn’t happened even one time yet.

    • stangerx says:

      Boulder — I just don’t know what his other options were when it came to the back-up OL. Think we were all happy with four of the five though, but then the whole injury thing came into play.

      Not surprised Turner got cut after last game though. That was a career-ender.

      • BoulderPhinfan says:

        I just don’t agree with having a throw away year to evaluate the talent. Most nfl coaches get 3 years at most to get the team to playoffs or they’re fired

      • stangerx says:

        I don’t agree with using a year to evaluate talent either. Do think they have accepted where the team is as far as this year though. And at least they have accepted what is. How else would you have then do it given that we can;t take back the past?

  10. New Age says:

    I don’t care if this was a ‘I dont care’ year by Gase. This year wasn’t going to be awesome. We weren’t going to be competing for anything. Let’s be honest about that. This is a year where he decides what thy will need for future success. Let’s not compare Gase to Parcells either. Half of that guy’s success was built on the back of the best coach in the NFL, Bill Belichick. We cut some garbage backups and may get more garbage backups. Gase didn’t bring these guys in. He isn’t an experienced HC either. It make take him some time to get this figured out. We should have hired a retread if we wanted instant results.

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      Why not? Many first year coaches do well their first year. Bowles won 10 games last year when he took over 4-12 jets. Philly is gonna be a playoff team this year with first year coach. Shit sparano went to the playoffs the first year after 1-15.

      • New Age says:

        They all had really good talent that stayed on the field. Our best players are always off the field. It’s a recurring theme. It’s part of the reason that no one has a clue if Tannehill can be good. He hasn’t had a complete healthy team to work with in years. Bowles had tons of talent. Philly has tons of talent and were in the playoffs several years in a row under Kelly. Sparano played in one of the weakest divisions that year(no Brady) and we had the weakest schedule in the NFL. We have one of the toughest this year. Apples and oranges.

      • New Age says:

        I could write 4 or 5 D sized posts on why this team and year is different than the ones you mentioned. We have a tough schedule with an average at best QB, a really weak roster, and lots of players that are always injured.

  11. BoulderPhinfan says:

    new age,
    so basically what you’re saying is that it didn’t matter who the coach and the FO were during the last offseason. This shitty season was inevitable. Sorry I just don’t buy that.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Maybe not inevitable
      But necessary to get better

      That’s how I am viewing it

      But I’m also saying that any other Interpration then the HC saying “2016 is over” is naive unless you think Gase is that clueless

      2016 is a throw away season
      After the last week I’m really starting to believe that

  12. The Flying Pig says:

    If 2016 is a throw away year
    so be it
    I agree we were not playoff bound anyway

    but don’t lie to yourself about it Dolfans and think “oh we just discovered Turner, Thomas and Douglas weren’t very good”
    Or that Gase somehow could not or should not have known

    those 3 might be scapegoats for Gase sending a message to the players
    He should have known they weren’t good this offseason
    and he probably did …it does not figure that he did not IMO

    but he chose not to take action earlier

    and then Tunsil mysteriously hurts himself in the shower….wtf?

    You know if Gase doesn’t care about winning the games we have played and fielding the best team NOW based on the roster we have then fine – that’s his direction

    maybe in 2 years we are a better team bc of it

    but don’t kid yourself about and argue to me that there is any other logical reason you wait until 5 games into the season to make this move

    Oh…and if he toys with the OL like this….guess what…He thinks Tannehill is fucked already. No one would do that to a franchise QB

    • stangerx says:

      “Oh…and if he toys with the OL like this….guess what…He thinks Tannehill is fucked already. No one would do that to a franchise QB”

      That is a serious possible alternative as well. But then would go into rebuilding mode too. But then Gase cut bait with all those pretty high drafted guards too. We’ll find out, even if not this year.

  13. Mike E. says:

    Has anyone at all been in contact with GDP?

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’ve moved on from Cameron as in expecting anything out of him. He won’t be back next year anyway as he is a UFA.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      He’s probably done

      Which is good considering what we are right now

      Besides I want to see Dion Simms on he filed all the time
      we know he can block
      Lets see him as a bigger part of the passing game and see what he does

      Simms is one of the pieces on this team I like going forward
      maybe he is just a #2 TE if we are able to bring a receiving threat TE in next offseason, but that’s an important piece

  14. BoulderPhinfan says:

    If a player is not gonna be in our plans next year don’t bother playing them. That includes cameron, maxwell etc..

  15. Randy says:

    Fans are so fickle. You guys talked and talked and talked about how the problem with this team was the coaching. Philbin just sucked. Now, it’s the players? You all sound like politicians. Pick a side and stick with it! Lol
    Sure, coaches make a difference, but it has always been about the players. And then, numb nuts TBaum trades away top 10 picks like they’re candy and everyone wonders why this team is devoid of top end talent. I can’t wait until he trades away our top 5 pick next year. Probably for a mediocre lber and a shitty, overpaid CB…oh wait.

  16. Randy says:

    Sorry, that had nothing to do with that horrendous trade. I know it turned out ok…we hope…but that was luck, not foresight or planning. Unless Tbaum was the one who leaked the photo. Then, he’s a genius. Lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      It doesn’t matter how it happened, he only traded down 6 slots and still landed Tunsil. 🙂

      LOL @ Unless Tbaum was the one who leaked the photo. Then, he’s a genius.

      Oh and Maxwell sucks. I like Alonso though.

      • D says:

        Im going the opposite directions with each of them. Im starting to really not like the Maxwell part of the trade and starting to appreciate Alonzo, ad to be honest im still not sold on Alonzo i just can see improvement from him game to game.

  17. D says:

    I think even if Tunsil had not fallen, the biggest difference would have been we might have taken a CB in the first, because either Apple or Hargreaves would have fallen, because i think NYG or TB might have taken Conklin instead.and we probably would have taken either Ragland or Henry in the 2nd.

  18. The Flying Pig says:

    Farty for Duarte!!!

    (Piggy waives his trotters behind his tail)

  19. Tim Knight says:

    Well with Misi possibly done at least in Miami, Jenkins being a UFA who has trouble staying on the field and not being able to progress, and Alonso also a UFA, I’d say LB will be a priority in the offseason.

  20. Jahndoh30 says:

    How’s everyone? Hopefully all getting along in spite of the rough start. I feel everyone’s pain. Our team is bad. But to be honest, I knew this after the Cleveland game. I think this team is as bad as 2007, but hopefully we win more games.

    Not sure the way out of this mess. I think Gase is telling us he doesn’t blame the QB though. I’m not sure I agree with him, but I’m not sure of anything. For Tannehill: He has been on his back more than any QB in the NFL since the day he came into the league and he’s had a different Offensive system every year (right?). Against Tannehill: Maybe a lot of those sacks are on him, and he makes head scratcher throws at least once per game, but usually 2 or 3 times a game.

    I think the rest of this season will dictate whether we chase another QB in the draft or not.

    Side note: I sent Son the beers last wednesday via fedex ground. Let me know somehow when you get them Son! Get em cold as soon as you can!

  21. D says:

    Interesting the what if Tunsil doesnt drop question.

    Here is my estimated “if Tunsil doesnt drop to us” draft.

    R1P13 I think NYG would have taken Conklin, and TB would have still taken VH3, so i think with Eli Apple being there its likely we would have taken him.

    R2P42 I think it could have been either Derrick Henry or Sterling Sheppard, but im choosing Henry due to the statements i have heard Gase make about Henry. Sheppard would have been an upgrade over Caroo and i feel he had to be on our big board fairly high, but i think Henry would have been the selection. I also dont think we would have traded here, so we wouldnt have lost our 4th round 107.

    R3P73 I think with Henry already selected, we would have picked probably would have looked for OL help, and Shon Coleman OT Aubrun was highest ranked on the board. I think he would have been our selection.

    R3P86 We probably still make this trade since we wanted Carro. Its likely that with the R4P107 pick still available we would have traded it and the 6th, instead of next years 3rd and 4th.

    Rest of the draft likely still stays the same.

    So basically i feel we would have had same position picks, probably been a little weaker at OL, maybe a little stronger at RB and CB, and had 2 additional picks next year.

  22. D says:

    I think Tanny obviously still has a chance to save himself, Gase seems intent on giving him that chance. I dont think i feel that if he hasnt felt urgency by now how its going to change between now and end of the year, so my belief in him saving himself is very low. Also pretty strongly feel that it wouldnt just take a so-so turn around to do it. Gase is literally on a countdown to turn this team around and he wont be able to spend another year “hoping” he shows up. The turn around will have to be such for Gase to feel confident he has finally arroived, and again, i dont think this is going to happen.

  23. Tim,
    Alonso isn’t a FA at the end of the season. He was extended for a year after the trade

  24. ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk · 17m17 minutes ago

    Andrew Luck is leading the league in sacks, but he doesn’t think his offensive line should be criticized

  25. Field Yates ‏@FieldYates · 41m41 minutes ago

    Source: the Ravens claimed OL Billy Turner off of waivers

  26. 81Howie says:

    Evening Update
    Old 45-13 PIT
    Howie 51-6 PIT
    N/A 48-16 PIT
    Wyo 42-17 PIT
    Piggy24-21 MIA
    B’man38-13 PIT
    MikeE24-23 MIA
    Rock 41-6 PIT
    Bold 27-7 PIT
    GO PHINS!!!

  27. 81Howie says:

    I see you guys have been talking about lots of cuts. So tell me who is gone and who has been moved up?

    • D says:

      Gone: Turner, Thomas, Douglas, and Pead. Misi to IR. We signed Bene Benwikere, Chimdi Chekwa, Sam Young and Jake Brendel and Terry Poole to the PS i think.

  28. D says:

    Lou, Overthecap shows him as a FA at the end of the year. They changed Maxwells contract not Alonzo’s. Alonzo is on last year of his rookie contract.

  29. finfanrob says:

    Randy says:
    October 12, 2016 at 3:05 pm

    Fans are so fickle. You guys talked and talked and talked about how the problem with this team was the coaching. Philbin just sucked. Now, it’s the players? You all sound like politicians. Pick a side and stick with it! Lol

    hmmmm, i know i dont know a damn thing about football and my specialty is just nlcs, dirty sofas and chains but just curious, why cant it be both. why does it have to be one or the other but why cant philbin be a horrible coach with horrible players.

  30. finfanrob says:

    Mike E. says:
    October 12, 2016 at 2:22 pm

    What did I say . . .

    nobody knows cause everyone has a scroll button and goes right past what you say

  31. 81Howie says:

    I see D
    Turner already landed in Baltimore. We can all bet whoever is ahead of him there goes down on Sunday and Turner will shine.
    He’ll have a spot there for the next 5 years…
    Anyone else want to come to the Dolphins and take a few years off while getting paid handsomely?

  32. D says:

    Bad as this might sound for the rest of football, we are still 12th in missed tackles, there are flipping 11 teams worse than us….that’s pretty unbelievable.

  33. Randy says:

    The trade didn’t net us Tunsil. We still could have picked Tunsil if the trade never happened.

  34. Ken says:

    I agree with Piggy that it’s crazy to wait 5 games into a season to make this kind of wholesale changes but I am also happy that we cut those 4. That’s 4 down 49 more to go. Blow it up!

  35. Randy says:

    You know whose OL is ranked very low? Minnesota. So, how important is it to have a solid OL to win games? The Seahawks OL is horrible, but they’re 3-1. The Colt OL is really bad, but Luck has ten TDs. Hmmmmm

  36. 81Howie says:

    And the Vikings are down their starting QB

  37. son of a son of a shula says:

    I couldn’t get on yesterday to thank you. It was at my door when I got home and went straight into the fridge.

    Impressive, very impressive.

    A friend was over last night and we tried some. Oh man what a product. I think the guys are going to love it.

    I might have to get my CDL license back and show up over there for a truck load.
    Amazing honestly and thank you so much.

    Just over a week guys. I can’t wait. You guys will love it as well as be impressed with the bottling.
    All the best to you Jahn. You are quite the artist.

  38. son of a son of a shula says:

    I bet it went something like this:

    Gase says oh man our backup olinemen particularly Thomas, Turner and Douglas suck there’s no way I can go into the season with them.

    Powers that be said- well we have time and draft picks invested in these guys and they come cheap against the cap let’s see if we can make something out of them.

    Then Sunday happened and Gase needed no further evidence to prove his point.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I think there may be some truth to that but that performance by Turner and Thomas was the last straw. They weren’t even competitive. You can’t play much worse. You can basically try any other OL out there and get a little better.

  39. son of a son of a shula says:

    That leaves Pouncey, Misi and Tannestiff from the Ireland glory days.

    And makes Turner the highest drafted Hickey pick to be ousted

  40. son of a son of a shula says:

    Jerry and Incognito were and still should be our starting Guards. Fucking Martin what a pussy.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Jerry has stunk with the Giants.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        I don’t see them in a hurry to replace him. What’s this year 3 starting there?

      • Tim Knight says:

        They have OL issues too and they always call out the right side as the weak link. Almost every Giants fan I know was concerned they didn’t do much to address the OL and they still are.

  41. finfanrob says:

    Randy says:
    October 12, 2016 at 6:57 pm

    You know whose OL is ranked very low? Minnesota. So, how important is it to have a solid OL to win games? The Seahawks OL is horrible, but they’re 3-1. The Colt OL is really bad, but Luck has ten TDs. Hmmmmm

    hmmmm and the vikings and hawks have two of the best def in the nfl but yet the colts one of the worse and are 2-3. yep i see it now i get it, all a team needs is a qb. the hell with a whole team just get a damn qb.

  42. son of a son of a shula says:

    I forgot Reshad Jones as a Ireland holdover. His best draft pick of his horrible career.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      He may miss the Steelers game


    • Tim Knight says:

      Clay, Miller and Vernon went on to get big contracts. Pouncey is another. Tannehill is obviously being questioned at this point. But Ireland didn’t hit on enough that’s for sure.

      It also wasn’t even just draft picks. It was how he went about building the team. There was always a major void somewhere.

  43. son of a son of a shula says:

    We’re paying a huge price right now for the absolute disaster Ireland caused with the 2013 draft. We were primed with all those high picks and have NOTHING to show for it. Never mind that the year before we could have had Keuchly and Cousins.

  44. 81Howie says:

    Well did you see Andy Dalton the other day? Amidst all those times of getting killed he does step up and make something happen. Although most went Inc. At least he gets the Hell out of there.
    Then on the other side, that kid on the Cowboys makes something happen every play.
    Shit, like I said then. If Jones is ready to part ways with Romo I will be happy to have him…

    • Tim Knight says:

      The Cowboys have handcuffs on Prescott. They have one of the best O-lines in the game and a great running game. Prescott isn’t a big thrower, he’s doing a real nice job managing the game and not making mistakes. He’s also mobile and uses that as part of his game too. Not every situation with every team is the same.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Romo wouldn’t last a game with our OL either. LOL

  45. son of a son of a shula says:

    Piggy what’s the matter with Jones?

  46. Tim Knight says:

    D, not surprised we’re not even at the bottom in missed tackles. The NFL product is not very good these days. The penalties decide the flow of the game, the fundamentals are shit, guys can’t block or tackle. Even with the good teams the game isn’t that well played.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Besides the reduced practice time they are also in a transition period of getting away from the spearing and knee shots. All the big hitting safeties from Lott to Oliver to Harrison among others couldn’t play today the way they did.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah but you know what, those guys hit with their pads up high and didn’t always head hunt. I don’t remember a lot of knee shots back then. Tackling was way better. They jolted guys’ torsos.

  47. The Flying Pig says:

    Jones didn’t practice today
    Groin injury

  48. Tim Knight says:

    Any chance we actually see the projected 5 OL play together this week and maybe start a run of consistency and solid play?
    LT Albert
    LG Tunsil
    C Pouncey
    RG Bushrod
    RT James

  49. The Flying Pig says:

  50. 81Howie says:

    Well I thought Tannehill was mobile…
    I guess only by design

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      No instincts

    • Tim Knight says:

      He is and he’s a good runner. He gashes teams all the time on the ground. I mean really he can’t do that now either? Sigh….

    • He’s mobile on designed runs. He doesn’t have the pocket presence to move around and avoid the rush and if you watch him try to get away from the rush even when he see’s it he’s not that good at it.
      You can’t roll a qb out on every pass play to buy him time. He needs to develop the awareness and based on his interview that’s in the PBP and PFT he seems to blame the o-line more because he says he doesn’t have the time to move around in the pocket. He just pissed a lot of guys off.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      He’s not bad at the read option and pretty good throwing on the run in rollout a and that sort of thing

      But when he plants his feet in the pocket
      He may as well be wearing bowling balls as shoes

  51. finfanrob says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    October 12, 2016 at 8:31 pm

    God hates us

    God doesnt hate the dolphin fan. This is just us purgatory. When we all die there will be a line of others to get into heaven and then an open gate that just reads. Dolphin fans only and no line what so ever.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      And then a trap door straight to hell will open as you pass through the gates

      And God will laugh
      “Hah hah – Dolfans, such fools…next year right…hah hah…”

  52. 81Howie says:

    LOL @ that Pittsburgh injury report

  53. finfanrob says:


    first i have no plans of getting there. i am ok with the trap door. i mean ok heaven sounds all great but just imagine how much us dolphin fans will enjoy watching hitler use a pineapple up the ass on brady. it will be like pay backs are fun to see.

  54. finfanrob says:

    81Howie says:
    October 12, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    LOL @ that Pittsburgh injury report


    to be honest pitt can send down their cheerleaders and stadium vendors and still walk away with a win.

  55. finfanrob says:

    i admit this, i havent watched the last few games but something about my morbidness side is looking forward to this game, just so see how bad they can lose.

    i do know this. sometimes hitting rock fucking bottom is the only way to look up

  56. Tim Knight says:

    I wonder if that return for Grant gave him that confidence lifter to do it again? 🙂

  57. D says:

    Nice little Nicky reference

  58. finfanrob says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    October 12, 2016 at 9:02 pm

    He’s mobile on designed runs. He doesn’t have the pocket presence to move around and avoid the rush and if you watch him try to get away from the rush even when he see’s it he’s not that good at it


    now that is one of the things you have said i agree with. i admit that is one of his flaws. he does step wrong in the pocket and at times doesnt help himself. could he be better at that a 100% yes, but he isnt the fault of the times like you think at times. he is just a serviceable qb and nothing more.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      his movement in the pocket is such a he setback in terms of his effectiveness

      It causes so much to unravel with him

      • Tim Knight says:

        There is too much of that. I think he’s become shell shocked a bit. He played faster in 2014 with less talent around him.

    • Tim Knight says:

      With some really bad OL play in front of him. Didn’t want you to forget the turkey in the oven. LOL

  59. Brian in NY says:

    Our secondary will get destroyed without Jones in there. Pitt will put up a 50 burger on us.

  60. finfanrob says:

    Tim Knight says:
    October 12, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    There is too much of that. I think he’s become shell shocked a bit. He played faster in 2014 with less talent around him.


    i dont doubt he is, I even think with so many different coordinators he is a lost cause. I dont think that is his fault and not sure it can be fixed. I do think he is a lost cause. I think he has talent but I dont doubt he sits in the pocket and so much going thru his head that i am not sure it can be fixed. i so wish it was so, he seems talented and more so like a good guy that could have worked out. but he does look so lost at times. for the sake of the team i hope thru out the rest of the year he figues it out. it would be so nice to watch by the end of the season he is getting it and playing well even with a shitty team around him but he is playing well and they can go into 2017 with a qb who has finally got it and playing well

  61. Tim Knight says:

    It’s funny, this blog thrives more during hard times. I remember during winning streaks it was kind of dead. LOL

  62. son of a son of a shula says:

    Hey Herd thanks so much for the beer. I’ll make sure to get some pictures of the folks enjoying it. Plus you’ll be impressed with the labeling what a great product they are making.

    • herdfan says:

      Excellent…although at this point it’s all thanks to Jahndoh. We had an ‘agreement’…he graciously offered to supply the beer, I was going to pay the shipping. He won’t give me an amount or any way to pay him. What an asshole. 😉

  63. Tim Knight says:

    Just remember there are a lot of stories about QBs who put it together later than sooner. Phil Simms was drafted in 1979 and didn’t really emerge until 1984. Giants fans were brutal against him in 85 and 86 as well. I was there, I lived it. LOL

    There is no scientific timeline for QBs. See Rich Gannon and Vinny Testeverde. I would not be surprised if Tannehill went that way even if not in Miami. He has talent which is the first thing you need.

    • Tannehill has athleticism and a strong arm. A lot of qb’s with those qualities have come and gone in the NFL and never had a career that amounted to much. I just think his shortcomings when it comes to reading a D and going thru his progressions, his ball placement and some of his other issues amount to too much for him to overcome and he’s never going to anything better than average.
      In the latest piece published in the PBP and PFT he throws his line under the bus basically saying they don’t give him enough time to get to his 2nd or 3rd progression which isn’t even close to the truth. I think people see the jailbreaks and just lose their minds and think the entire game was that way when it wasn’t.
      My biggest gripe is he doesn’t see the pressure coming. When you’re looking at the D and you see them bringing guys you’ve got to be on the same page as at least one of your receivers who’s going to break off their route so you can get the ball out fast and beat that pressure. You’re not going to stop the pressure from coming until you make them back off by completing a few of those passes.
      There are times when the o-line gets beat with just four guys but when we play teams like the Jets and Bills they bring it in bucketloads and a qb would have to be an idiot to think he’s going to be able to take a four or five step drop and have time to get to a 2nd or 3rd progression. Get the damn ball out.

  64. finfanrob says:

    wow…wow…WWWOOOOOWWW. we all thought being dolphin fan we were going to burn in hell. but herd, just called god an asshole. so glad i am not going to be her in hell

  65. olddolphan says:

    BEEN OFF THE BOARD Helping Mrs. OD pack and get ready for the big move. The VAN will be here 7:00 AM Friday—UGH—WHAT A DAY OFF!! – – Oh, well, it beats watching a Dolphins’ game, right?? –I guess today’s “MASSACRE AT DAVIE,” featuring the release of several players, is just the beginning of the end for T-BAUM – – too bad he wasn’t fired after the end of last season.—And, speaking of the “DOOFUS BRIGADE,” A FORMER MEMBER OF SAID GROUP, Mike Dee, “has left” the San Diego Padres, according to reports. Dee, who had NO FOOTBALL EXPERIENCE, was named President of the Dolphins a few years ago by Ross (who just LOVES unqualified guys with prior records of failure). Predictably, Dee’s tenure with Miami was a short one before getting fired. He subsequently got a job as Padres President and, fucked that job up, too!!! Will Ross bring him back for another try???
    NO DOUBT many of you have noticed former Ross hires who’ve been fired here have also done poorly on their next jobs, too. Sparano sucked BOTH as a later head coach and as an assistant coach after leaving Miami. Ireland, I believe, is collecting unemployment. Have heard NOTHING about Hickey. Have heard Philbin’s a shitty O-Line coach (but he DOES have a nice collection of gum wrappers). NO ONE should overlook Ross’s role in creating one of the biggest piles of shit in the NFL over the last 8 years. NO PLAYOFF WINS, 8 straight non-winning seasons, an abominable record in free agency and the draft, and a vastly shrinking fan base that now allows visiting fans to take over the home stadium on a regular basis. Steeler fans will outnumber Dolphin fans by AT LEAST 2-1 at the start of the game Sunday. By the end of the game, it will be 100-1!!! –ARE YOU REALLY PROUD OF THAT, STEVE ROSS??? I’ve read several comments on this site to the effect that the owner “doesn’t make any difference in the success of a franchise.” ANYONE who truly believes that after the Ross Fiasco is a complete moron. And they’re totally not aware of the key role that an owner like Eddie De Bartolo, Jr., in the formation of the ’49ers dynasty or that Joe Robbie played in the success of the Dolphins dynasty of the early ’70’s. ROSS is the least successful owner in Dolphins’ history. And all his stadium upgrades and all his donations will never change that brutal fact. As another failed Ross employee (Tuna) once said, “You are what your record says you are.”

    • olddolphan says:

      JUST BEFORE the start of this season, PRO FOOTBALL FOCUS predicted that Miami would have the worst record in the AFC this season. Well, with the Browns starting to get back some of their injured players. PFF may be proven correct by season’s end.

  66. Randy says:

    I had a 2 paragraph post about Tannehill, but I deleted it. I’m tired of saying the same thing over and over….and I’m sure everyone is tired of reading it! Lol
    Instead, I will just say that this whole team has been an abyssmal failure thus far…coaches and players. I didn’t have much hope to begin with, but these guys have sucked the joy of football right out of me. My hope is gone. If it was just one unit…or one player…I think I’d feel better, but it’s not. I know I get poked fun of for always saying we’re still a couple years away, but I’m not even sure I feel we’re that close now. Winning feels like a distant memory. I think I need a hobby. Anybody know how to knit?

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