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Game Day – Patriots @ Dolphins – Week 17
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Damn Wyo – That article was a real piece of trash. Did a 10 year old write it? 😉
if joseph is gone I hope we switch to 3-4 and hire wade phillips.
What do you with Suh? DE?
PLUS, we have to bring in at least 3-4 LB’s here to play a 3-4
Suh and Mitchell at DE, Phillips in the middle. Wake at OLB, Alonso inside. That leaves Misi, Jones and Branch to man 2 spots. Now I have no idea how these guys would transition, other than the ones that have already played those positions, like Wake, and it takes Suh out of the middle, but I’d give it a try.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1MjfYTXAAETNPH.jpg:large
What was this in response to?
the tweet is no longer there so he must have deleted it. IDK
Mahomes expected to declare today
Mike E. says:
January 3, 2017 at 10:07 am
PLUS, we have to bring in at least 3-4 LB’s here to play a 3-4
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If Dion Jordan can ever get his act together he would be the perfect OLB for a 3-4 set up with his physical traits. That’s a big if, though.
No question Vinnie, he would be, but man, we both know you can’t be counting on him. I suppose Branch could be a 3-4 OLB, and Wake as well
Mike E
I was surprised to see Tanny’s name in that article?
But I was looking for a LB!
Cushing anyone?
LOL – I didn’t go any further . . . I always think of steroids when I think of Cushing. I’d like Melvin Ingram, Jamie Collins, Chandler Jones, and a couple of others I can’t think of at the moment.
Vin
None of our current LB’s are ideal for a 3-4, so we’d basically have to get rid of them all. I like Alonso, and I think he’d be a fine WOLB in a 4-3, but I don’t see him as a 3-4 LB fit.
Switching to a 3-4 makes no sense with our DL personnel
2nd that.
Dion Jordan is done even if he is a good fit at OLB he will never see the field with this team again
Screw Them
Tanny has turned the corner and is light years better than we had the 1st 4 seasons.
I have become a believer and thats all that counts
Whoever the DC is needs to teach tackling skills and how to diagnose a play.
First Ever Playoff Edition
DOLPHINS-STEELERS
Piggy 31-24 MIA
Son 18-16 MIA
Howie 27-24 MIA
GO DOLPHINS!!!
Jets expected to clean house. If we could get Rodgers back to coach the d-line next season it would be great.
I think Williams has done a really nice job with the DL unit.
Gase wanted to replace him with Clint Hurt but CHI blocked him. If not for Washburn I doubt the DL would be anywhere near as good as it is and now he’s leaving. Expect a change there in the offseason.
Like i said perviously, converting to a 3-4 for us right now would take a couple years of drafting and free agent pickups to be able to flip the switch. We could do some set up pickups this year, guys who could play other positions in a 4-3 and once we got the complement of players flip over then, or we would just have to spend big in FA to get the right guys as a here and now kinda thing.
LB would be a complete re-do, almost none of our current unit would be able to transition over, and we might have enough guys on DL to have a set of starters capable of playing, but we would need a starting caliber rotational player and a depth player at each position.
Like is aid before we would need about 10 players to make that change happen and still be effective on defense. I put up a mock draft a week or so back that was a “if we are going to switch” draft. Tim Williams would for sure be more of my target if we are going 3-4, than Reuben Foster, though i think Foster would be a goof ILB in 3-4 as well. We would want Williams though, to be our Von Miller.
All well and good but Williams and Foster ain’t gonna be there when we’re picking in the mid 20’s
One of the two will be im pretty sure. Foster most likely.
not unless there’s another gas mask video. both are top 15 guys
Whats with all the band wagon guys now. I said the other day Vance Joseph was going to be one of the most sought after guys this post season and everyone shot me down say no way he was going to get teams wanting to have him as HC, he just now got a DC job, yadda yadda….
I’m not on your bandwagon. I don’t feel strongly either way, although if I were hiring a defensive coach to be my HC, I’d at least want him to be really successful in his last stop, and it’s pretty hard to say he’s been really successful here, at least as far as the performance of the defense.
I think its his approach to coaching and his relationship witht he players that they are looking at as the right skills for a HC. I get what you are saying, i was just being real with what was the facts regarding other teams interest. I had heard previously that he was a top candidate option for a couple different teams.
I can see that, that he does have a good rapport with the players, but I’d also want that to translate into them playing well. It seems Denver really likes him, and so do a couple of others. If he goes, I’m fine with it. I think we can find a good replacement
D says:
January 3, 2017 at 11:36 am (Edit)
Like i said perviously
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I KNEW you were a PERV!
Was waiting for this reply lol…. didnt know it was going to be you that caught it lo, i think i was thinking Tim would be the guy
Lou, its the depth at the position thats going to push him down and the fact there are some really top guys at other spots with significant drop off after making people choose to select others and push them down to us, or at least that’s my feeling on it. They are for certain top 15 talent, i just think we will benefit from a draft pool that will give us a shot at one of them.
I don’t think Williams is limited to being a 3-4 OLB though his pass rushing ability could help us. He can play the run well and he’s covered rb’s out of the backfield. But, just don’t see him being around at #24. That’s a huge stretch.
I think Williams will be gone, i think Foster might be around though. Williams is very good and i think he could play in a 4-3 scheme. He could also line up in the 9 technique and rush the passer out of a 4-3 base package. He has the skills to play in both, i just think he is very elite 3-4 OLB, so id like to play him to his strengths, is really what im saying.
Gase may be able to get Hurt now. I had kind of hoped they would get him last year before we found out we were blocked. We should be able to get him now though if they are thinking they need a transition.
Mike E. says:
January 3, 2017 at 10:45 am
Vin
None of our current LB’s are ideal for a 3-4, so we’d basically have to get rid of them all. I like Alonso, and I think he’d be a fine WOLB in a 4-3, but I don’t see him as a 3-4 LB fit.
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No arguments coming from here. I’m fine with staying in a 4-3. With spread offenses now, base packages don’t even matter as much anymore.
No matter what, we need LBs. They all suck besides Alonso.
Where is Washburn going, i hadnt heard he was leaving
I believe he’s retiring.
Ryan Winters @WintersNFL 33m
33 minutes ago
RT17 is closer to Aaron Rodgers than Matt Moore is to Tannehill.
after the weekend I had I really needed some comic relief. Winters is always cracking me up with stuff like this.
Unrelated to the Dolphins. Who are your award winners this year? My are:
MVP – Aaron Rodgers. Seeing him literally carry the team into the playoffs like he did the last 6 weeks puts a stamp on him being the best QB in the NFL. He’s simply too good to be stopped. If anyone needs further proof that a QB can will his team into the playoffs, look no further than that man. 1667 yards passing, 15 total TDs, no INTs the last 6 weeks.
A strong argument can be made for both Matt Ryan and Tom Brady, also.
OPOY – Matt Ryan. This will simply be a consolation prize for not being the MVP. He had one hell of a year.
DPOY – It’s most likely going to Von Miller, but I have a hard time not giving it to Landon Collins. My friends are all Giants fans so I saw all their games so I may be bias, but my God, that dude was literally all over the field making all types of plays. Sacks, INTs, PDs, Stuffs, TsFL. Without doubt the best player on a defensive that’s top 3 in the league.
Agreed on Landon Collins. He’s had a sensational season – 125 tackles (5 for loss), 4 sacks, 5 INT (1 TD), 13 PD, 1 FR.
D, I heard them taking about Joseph being a hot HC candidate on the NFLN yesterday and said okay I guess the peeps who were saying that on the blog were right. I was surprised that he’d be a HC candidate this soon.
I like Joseph and his approach with the players but there’s no doubt in my mind Matt Burke will be the right man to replace him going forward.
I like Joseph too but he’s not irreplaceable. Burke definitely has the experience to become a DC.
Grant was referring to all of omar’s tweets sayin Grant can’t catch and that Omar doesn’t like to keep receivers for gimmick plays.
It’ll be a long day if howard has to cover brown all day. I hope maxwell is back this game.
I hope Maxwell is back too. The more better players we have the better! They have a bunch of guys to throw to, it would be great if Maxwell were healthy enough to play
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/815936440567734272
Missed this Saturday!
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/815202509836943360
Those swimsuits probably are pretty happy
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article124234719.html
I read that, they could have cut him this season
I didn’t know he had to be cut before Thursday
wow
that is kinda weird
D, what makes you so sure we don’t have the players to transition to a 3-4? Like I said I’m not sure how guys would transition. Why are you so sure they cant?
I suspect Suh is athletic enough to play 3-4 DE
but seems to me 4-3 is his thing
Wake has done it before
That is the only guy up front I feel confortable saying it will work with
the rest are ? marks
I think it comes down to the LBs. It’s probably the weakest unit on our team. You need 8 guys with good size and speed. Your two outside guys need size and speed and both coverage and pass rushing abilities. Your two inside guys can be a bit more run stuffers. You need backups at each position.
Kiko is too small to be an inside LB in a 3/4 and too slow to play outside. He’s our best LB currently. If he can’t transition I don’t know how the rest of them will transition. I guess you could move Wake outside, but at his age I think that’s a waste of time he has left. I’m just not seeing how you get to a 3/4 from this roster without at least 2 offseasons to do it.
yeah Kiko seems like a bad fit for 3-4
why is anyone oinking about the 3-4 anyway
Can’t we just stick with one thing….lol
Oink about oinking the Steelers. VJ ain’t gone yet.
I don’t know why we think 3-4 is the way to go either but Alonzo played in a 4-3/3-4 hybrid defense in BUF. A lot of teams use different formations now. Also base defenses aren’t as much of a big deal these days as they used to be.
I keep hearing that, but I don’t agree with it. We always rush 4, when not in our base.
Yeah but sometimes it’s 3 DL and a LB or DB on a blitz.
Tim the base defense is about the personnel and the responsibilities of the position, the formation has nothing to do with that. You could be lined up with 3 on the line and 4 off, and still be a base 4-3, and the OLBs and ILB’s would still have the same responsibilities, and have the same look and be a 3-4 and they would have different responsibilities. Because of those responsibilities, you cant have the same type of player do it. In general Alonzo and him being so light and speedy would work against his responsibilities in a 3-4. You think he looked too small in our 4-3, he would look ridiculously so in a 3-4.
I feel like you just contradicted yourself. How is 3 on the line and 4 back still a base 4-3? How do formations have nothing to do with it? You just gave an example of how it does.
We used 4-3, 3-3, 4-2, 4-1 and 3-1 all season in base, nickel and dime. Those are formations. That’s why I said base is not what it used to be because of how offenses use the spread so often these days. Just get good players and figure out the best way to use them. It’s more about talent than scheme anyway.
Steve, the roles they play in a 4-3 vs a 3-4 come with certain skill-sets that some of these players dont possess to transition. Thats the short version, but i dont see what is needed in a lot of these players to make that swap.
Just and a “for example” 4-3 DE, has a primary of pass rush, but a secondary of setting the outside edge of the LOS for containment of the RB, they need to be quick enough to pass rush but still have decent enough size to engage a TE in run situations. They are normally most comparable to a 3-4 OLB because their responsibilities are fairly close to one another and the size and physical traits are most comparable to one another. Wake might be able to transition to OLB in 3-4 but i doubt his coverage skills are good enough. Thats basically where the real differnce comes in. He did snag that one int a couple games back but i think that was more just catching the QB off guard not expecting him to be in the passing lane than actual coverage skills.
a 4-3 pass rushing/aggressive style DL is more comparable to a a 3-4 DE, Aaron Donald, Suh, Mitchell, etc, all are more that style DL and i think therefore they would make the transition. Phillips is more bulky, gap stuffer DL, and would more reflect the skillset of a NT. I think he would be a Dontari Poe type NT too, he has that speed and brutal power to drive OC’s back while eating 2 defenders.
I guess back to the short version, i just dont see it in those players. You could be right, they _might_ cut it in a different scheme but its going to be very round peg square hole and i think less likely to have success than just getting the right guys for those spots.
I think we will maintain the 4-3 and revamp the defensive roster quite a bit, especially the front 7 in the offseason. Like I’ve said before I could see us doubling up at DE and LB in both FA and the draft – meaning adding a quality DL and LB in FA and drafting the same at the top of the draft. That’s 4 new front 7 players that are projected to be core guys.
If this year is any indication, only the first 2 picks will get much PT, but I’d expect LB/DE to be our first 2 picks. TE would be another option, but I see the cheats M Bennett to be our prized FA signing.
My thoughts were more based on we have lots of DL that would transition to LB, making it less of a need.
Like who? I don’t see it. Wake has always been better hand in the ground and I don’t see enough athleticism for any of them to play LB. Maybe Branch but I don’t think that’s the best place for him to play.
I havent checked on the possible FA DE’s because they are usually one of the most expensive positions to fill through FA. Who is out there this year worth a look? I would really shoot for Collins in FA. Maybe this bitch slap that Belichick gave him might have come at a cost, meaning we might be able to get him at a better price.
Can Collins play in a3-4?
I meant 4-3?
He played in both for the Pats. They use multiple formations.
So my best-case scenario start of the season was Phins in the playoffs. And Santa put that under the tree X-Mas eve and threw in a young lion coach in my stocking to boot.
Hard to now complain that our road to the AFC Champ game goes through Pittsburgh and Foxboro. No matter what happens, I’m a happy camper.
A winning record and progress was mainly what I wanted but 10-6 and the playoffs was the icing for sure. Who’s the young lion coach?
Gase — dude is only 37.
the only reason I brought up 3-4 is because everyone is talking about joseph leaving and I would love to grab wade phillips as his contract is up and won’t be back in denver.
If Vance Joseph becomes Denver’s HC expect Wade Phillips back. That’s his mentor. Wade has a lot of respect for Vance as well and I believe he’d stay on with no issues.
You say mentor like I hear guru mentioned here. I think they only have 1 year together. Sparano was an OL guru, because he coached the OL, he sucked at it, but because he coached it he’s a guru.
As far as who will be available at DE in FA, it’s not always a guy that screams elite player but can be a quality part of your defense. Sometimes it’s a guy scouts see as a player on the rise so it’s not always a blockbuster guy. Same for all positions actually.
I prefer those kind of FAs, think Jones and Branch.
I think it would require too much personnel turnover to switch to 3-4. I just want to be good at something, and right now, our front 4 are good enough in the 4-3. We could use more help at DE, but it’s a good start with what we have.
Agreed. Now we have to add some youth on the DL because we’re getting a little long in the tooth with some guys. We need better LBs plain and simple.
I think so too, i think it would take staging to do it and not really cripple us or be a reboot to the defense. Some could argue though, if we lose our DC, its possible we are already looking at that so do you bite the bullet and do it to open the doors to a really good 3-4 concept DC being brought in, or do you look for a guy who does a 4-3 so you dont have to worry about personnel?
Don’t give up on this game in Pittsburgh yet. There’s a chance a FU’er will be there! 🤞🏻
Good, support us well😉
Knowing we have a solid RB in Ajayi, would you even consider taking a shot at Leveon Bell or is he too much of a luxury item for us to make it worth it? As much as i like Leveon, me personally, i wouldn’t bother, but thats me.
No way, and I don’t see him getting out of Pitt.
They would be stupid to let him walk but i have seen crazier shit happen
ok the 2016 dolphins records challenge results are in. This competition has 2 winners. One is the person that had the most number of correct calls (correct w/l calls for each game) and the person that predicted the final record correctly with avgpts/per game being the tiebreaker. Dolphins avgpts/game this year was 22.7
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&season=2016&seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&role=TM&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&conference=ALL&d-447263-s=TOTAL_POINTS_GAME_AVG
Drum roll please…….
The winner of the most number of correct calls is STANGER with 12 correct calls.
The winner of the correct final record is Manitoba with record 10-6 and avgpts/game prediction of 22.49.
Other people with correct 10-6 record were Mike E (25.2) , Lou (23.5) ,GDP (24.5), Ken (23.7), Rock (25.4) but toba’s average points per game was closest.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HYb9B1KHDXFHIfyAkIX-vaqSl8uCF7Zu7xsGsGspBpc/edit#gid=0
And was thinking I was long gone on this……nothing like a late comeback by an underdog though. Maybe the Phins can win a couple in the playoffs. 🙂
And congrats Toba.
Grats Toba and Stanger
tim,
That’s not what they’re saying here. most people in denver think phillips is gone. But you never know.
I think he would be let go with all the rest of that coaching staff. I think they would let Joseph pick his guys and i am thinking a likely candidate for DC would be Burkes,
You always have to let the HC pick his own staff. New HC’s do retain some coaches when they take over. The same happened in Miami with Rizzi, Anarumo and Williams.
I can’t see VJ not retaining Phillips if he wants to stay. Now if VJ is not their new HC, that’s another story.
Same question as above, but Alshon Jeffery? Id lean a little towards signing Jeffery and letting Still walk, even if Jefferey is a little bit more expensive.
I really like stills speed and he was great this year. But it is a contract year. Gase knows Jeffery so I’ll trust his opinion on this.
Jeffrey is not going to be cheap and we have Landry to re-sign soon. Gase is also a big Stills fan. Parker is basically the same type of player as Jeffrey just not as polished but give him some time.
Tim they have 2 huge WRS on the jets that makes them really hard to stop. Stills gives us big plays when we least expect it, we need big 1st downs when we expect it.
Id actually be worried we might lose Burkes too if Joseph leaves.
Steve, it has nothing to do with guru, VJ has said many times he learned a lot from Wade Phillips when he was the DBs coach under him in Houston from 2011-13. Phillips was the DC during that time. Phillips also told him you’re going to be a DC soon enough and eventually a HC. They both have a high regard for each other, it’s about the relationship they have.
By the way I think guru is used way too often.
I was using guru as a comparison to mentor, I wasn’t calling anyone a guru. I was saying you were using mentor loosely, like people here use guru.
I was saying that VJ has said Phillips is one of his mentors. Take it up with him. LOL
Cameron Brate is a TE id look at in FA. Jared Cook too.
I like Reed as well but I doubt the redskins let him go.
Herd,
FYI I posted the results for the record challenge above.
Congratulations Stanger, Toba! Good job!
I Dolphined the challenge. I was up 1 game with 2 to play, and lost both😂
LOL
D
If we’re not drafting a TE early, Brate is definitely a TE I think we should look at.
D
Jared Cook has played for 33 of 32 NFL teams. 🙂
Seriously though, I’d rather look elsewhere.
I have officially hit the “Miami Dolphins fan wall” it is kind of like hitting the rookie wall in the NFL. The season is supposed to be over now for Miami Dolphins fans. We’re not supposed to be talking about a game next Sunday. I am so confused! LOL.
I also have to apologize to you all because it’s my fault we did not win last Sunday against the Patriots. I did not wear my white number 17 authentic jersey or my orange new logo hat ( which I was able to get stretched back over my head again but it still looks like shit) I did not even watch the game because I got stuck at my house up in Rockledge and the local bar was not showing the Dolphins game. After we lost I decided not to watch the DVR recording.
Steve, I guess there is always preference in how you build your WR corps. I do not think that’s an area of need where we go out and sign a big time FA WR like a Jeffrey when we already have a good young group. I’d rather add a playmaking TE to help move the chains along with that WR group and Ajayi.
Stills makes a lot of big plays for us. 42-726 17.3 9 TD and 10 catches over 20 yards and a bunch of those are over 40-50+ yards. If I’m the GM I’m re-signing him. He’ll be just 25 next season with 4 years under his belt. He’s a player on the rise.
^ Agree – We have a lot tied up at WR already with Landry and Parker, and a little with Carroo. I’d re-sign Stills too, but he may get out priced here too. We’ll have to see. Jeffery will be getting close to top dollar, and it’s not a need for us.
I don’t think Stills we be overpriced. I think he wants to be fairly paid. We don’t have to worry about Landry this offseason as he does not become a UFA until 2018. Parker is 2019 but we have a 5th year option with him. I want to build around the good young players we have and stop turning over the team where it doesn’t need to be turned over.
Now I could see Landry getting a new deal this offseason but remember contracts can be set up to exist together even if they both start simultaneously like Stills and Landry. They are two of our 3 starters at WR being that we use 3 WR most of the time. WR is a huge part of how this offense works. TE and RB can be by committee even though Ajayi emerged as a top back. And we don’t have to pay any of those guys big money right now.
One thing at a time. Re-sign your best when you have too, move on from the overpriced and/or unproductive guys like Cameron, Williams, Misi etc. and revamp some areas that have some weakness or need upgrading. To me areas we do not need to upgrade are QB, OT, RB, WR, DT and S if we get back our two starters and want to retain them. Even CB could be fine with the young bucks gaining experience.
We’ll be in good shape this offseason cap wise and hopefully we get those comp picks. 🙂
Rock
I thought you sold the Rockledge house? When do you have it until?
Bucs will fight to keep Brate. Winston loves him
Anyone hear if Tannehill practiced, and how he looked?
Mike E, the short version of the long story is I had a contract as is and the buyer had 15 days to inspect the inspector found that the house had polypropylene pipe which was recalled back in the nineties the country’s largest class-action suit in history I could not sell the house with a polypropylene pipe it would cost $6,500 in plumbing work alone plus the drywall repair and paint too close on the house and I didn’t have the cash so the deal fell through and I still own it and no need to spend 7 to $10,000 to replace all the plumbing pipe
The total sale price was equal to what I owe plus the closing cost so I was getting out with nothing now I will have to make the repairs and hope to recoup the costs with a higher sale price later
By the way I bought the house in 2006 and if I had known about the piping I could have had it replaced including all the repair expenses by signing up for the class action suit but I didn’t know in the suit was closed in 2009
Gotcha Rock. Sucks bro – Are you OK keeping the house, or do you still want to sell it?
steveccnv says:
I Dolphined the challenge. I was up 1 game with 2 to play, and lost both😂
LOL. You mean you philbined the challenge 🙂
Either way not good
tim,
I think stills will get 10mil/yr on open market. I bet the FO drafted Carroo to replace stills next year. But nobody was expecting the type of year stills had. It’s hard to let him walk.
That’s fine but I think a lot of that can be guaranteed money spread out over time in different ways. $10M per year is not top WR money, that’s at about $15M per now. That said I think Stills will likely be more in the $7-8M per range. I don’t think he has the numbers or is viewed as more than that. He made $1.671M this year at the end of his rookie deal as a 5th rd pick. That would be a substantial raise for him.
I think we drafted Carroo as more of a replacement for Matthews because we had no penciled in #4.
Just remember Gase is a big fan of Stills. He was when he was in CHI and they were looking to trade for him, then when he came to MIA and he was already here. He’s said this multiple times. We can re-sign him with Cameron’s money easy. I’ll take Sims, Gray and Duarte at TE with re-signing Stills over overpaying Cameron. LOL
LOOKS LIKE THE NFL schedule maker screwed me. Dolphins at Steeler’s game occurs during the last day of our convention at the Broward County Convention Center near Port Everglades.–I can’t leave early Sunday b/c I’m president of the organization putting on the show! – – If all goes well, I’ll get to listen on my car radio to the 4th quarter (and maybe only a small part of it). Hopefully, we’ll win the game and I’ll get to hear coach GASE and the players give their takes on the game as I drive across Alligator Alley to the west coast of Florida.
NOT quite what I had in mind for my playoffs experience. Hope I DON’T have to wait another 8 years for the next one.
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YOUNG STANGER: My B-I-M Jim says “Hi.” –I hope to drag him to at least one game next season.
I think i remembered something about a Jefferson Airplane member dying this year, but i just saw something listing celeb deaths of 2016 and two died….on the same day, both unrelated. Thats kinda spooky
That is pretty spooky. Really like Marty Balin’s vocals. He’s still alive
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/816393070744899590
Fucking photo cropping!
More Etta is betta!
I thought we drafted Carroo so we can yell CARROOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
I don’t see how we’re a 10 point underdog against a team we’ve already beaten this year. The phins continue to get no respect.
Its because Steelers have been red hot past few games, really on a roll offensively. I think the game is going to be a good one, and as long as we can cover AB on crossing routes (much easier said than done) and Bell on the ground (easier than AB for us i think) then we might stand a chance. Thier defense will let us back in it as long as we are at least playing as well as in the Jets or Bills games.
tim,
I didn’t know Gase was that high on Stills. You maybe right. I bet Stills will get a chance to go out in FA and see what he can get then the phins will try and match that offer.
I think he probably gets a 7mil per offer, with a decent chunk guaranteed. He is still a role player kind of WR not an alpha. I dont think any team sees him that way, though there are some offenses out there that might treat him more like a feature than we do. Bottom line to me is that i think he gets an offer somewhere thats outside what we will be willing to pay.
Stills is very Emanuel Sanders like, just a little less proven commodity.
Actually a better and more recent FA comparison is probably Travis Benjamin, and about the contract i think he will get, maybe slightyl more. Benjamin was a 4 year 24mil contract with 13 guaranteed, i think Still will be somewhere in the 4 year 30ish, 20 guaranteed range.
Don’t know a thing about him, but I do know we needs linebackers!
D (or anybody). WHEN will the NFL announce who gets compensatory picks for the upcoming draft? We should get a 4th or a third for loosing Olivier Vernon to the Giants, right?
Dolphins signed TE MarQueis Gray to a 2-year contract on Dec.29. GOOD MOVE. –This may deprioritize drafting a TE in the first half of the draft.
D
I was going to say I think Sanders is a better catcher than Stills.
Boulder
Steelers are favored by 10 because the betting is going on the Steelers. Ben is playoff tested, and so is their HC. Dolphins are an unknown here. Like D said, they’re playing their best football right now, so they’re coming in strong. The spread seems legit to me, but that doesn’t mean we can’t win, or come close to winning.
Mike E; Since I WON’T be back on the board until Sunday night, I’m going to ask you this “ASK MIKE” question now:. Somebody puts a gun to your head and says “You MUST make a $100 bet on the Steelers-Dolphins game with Pittsburgh favored by 10!” —WHO DO YOU BET ON?”
Is it loaded?
YES!
Stills is totally worthy of a re-sign and not at the top of the market. Keep building on what’s good about the team. Don’t keep changing its character. We’re rumored to have about $40M to spend in the offseason on top of who we already have signed. What are we worried about?
Year one under Tannenbaum, Grier and Gase – we’re 10-6 and in the playoffs with the walking wounded, let’s be honest. Ride the wave. 🙂
One reason I never followed the Vegas line is because they don’t know how the ball is going to bounce in any particular game.
1%?!?!?!?!
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/816421858274902016
That’s annoying . . .
why so little…..lol
Mikei just looked it up and watched some of his highlight videos. He looks to have been mostly a ST player at Edmonton in 2014, followed by a little more time in 2015, and this past year was a starter at LB. He had 87 tackles in 18 games, 1 sack, 3 interceptions one of which he took back for a TD.
From what i see on his video he looks to have really sticky hands, and if he gets them on a guy, he tackles them.
He seems to play with a lot of intensity too
olddolphan says:
January 3, 2017 at 6:04 pm
D (or anybody). WHEN will the NFL announce who gets compensatory picks for the upcoming draft? We should get a 4th or a third for loosing Olivier Vernon to the Giants, right?
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They do it right after the league year opens up i think, right around the time of FA.
The middle of March.
D
Thanks man – Sounds good! Even if just plays ST’s, if he can tackle, we can use him.
Did the Dolphins practice today? I don’t see one mention of it
No they practice tomorrow. And I bet we won’t hear anything about tanny until later to keep the steelers guessing.
Thanks Boulder
First Ever Playoff Edition
DOLPHINS-STEELERS
Piggy 31-24 MIA
Son 18-16 MIA
Howie 27-24 MIA
GO DOLPHINS!!
Mike E. says:
January 3, 2017 at 4:28 pm
Gotcha Rock. Sucks bro – Are you OK keeping the house, or do you still want to sell it?
Reply
Mike I honestly cannot think of a single thing that would make me more happy in getting rid of that fucking house. Well except for maybe burning it and standing in the front yard watching.
Sheesh – I get it. Is it the main line that comes into the house, that polypropylene pipe?
http://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/22170/mike-tomlin-compares-jarvis-landrys-physicality-to-steelers-great-hines-ward
I’ve been saying this since I saw him play. He’s one of those guys we all say oh yeah, he’s a player!
Steve smith Sr is kinda the same type.
I would try and re-sign still, sims, branch and alonso.
Agreed. Nobody is going to be a cap buster! Per year = total cap for that year, not total contract. LOL
I think the Dolphins will be like the 2016 Cubs in 2017. 🙂
mike,
I think the dolphins and 10 points are a safer bet than steelers specially if Tanny plays. I thought the pats game had a big chance of being a blowout and it was. I don’t see us getting blown out by the steelers. We’ve played them close the last few times we’ve played and we actually beat them in pitt a couple of years ago when we played them there. And we match up against them pretty well. I hope maxwell can come back. He was good the last time we played them.
I agree. I also really wish Maxwell would play. As long as we give Ajayi some running room, the rest of our offense will work around that. As long as neither Bell or Brown hurt us badly, I think we can win this.
Maxwell played very well against the Steelers in October.
My friend just messaged me, he’s a SD Chargers fan, and he likes the 10.5 points MIA is getting, so he asked me what I thought. I told him I like it too. One of his other friends is a Dolphins fan too, and that guy thinks the Dolphins are going to get killed. lol
Tim Knight says:
January 3, 2017 at 2:54 pm
If Vance Joseph becomes Denver’s HC expect Wade Phillips back. That’s his mentor. Wade has a lot of respect for Vance as well and I believe he’d stay on with no issues.
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Tim,
I heard some of Kubiak’s retirement speech, and NFLN reported that Elway is expected to keep Phillips on as DC. I’m sure they don’t want to mess with that D.
I would never tell a HC who to hire on his staff. That’s a puppet HC and a GM with too much power.
It’s funny how we wanted to cut Maxwell early in the season and now we want him back. We should learn from this. Hasty decisions are not always best. LOL
Blow it up!
Yeah man… losing records and stuff like that would be awesome! LOL
I am okay with cutting Maxwell. I am still unimpressed and don’t trust him out there
Tim
We wanted to cut Tannehill and Ajayi too.
I think it’s better not having a team you can root for. Let’s just root for nothing so when it fails you don’t feel anything. Oy! WTF is the point?!!! LOL
I think some STILL want to cut Tannehill. 😀
Go for it! He was a big part of this turn around winning 9 of the last 11! 🙂
I love the mentality of this team. Add some more talent where we need it and off we go!! LOL
Ken is rough – You’re as wrong on Maxwell as I was with Stills
I don’t see anything special in Maxwell. I doubt he is back next year. The future is Howard and Lippett. Maxwell is way too inconsistent
So some 4-6 years ago my wife bought me this sweet Dolphins liquor flask for Xmas. I declared at the time that it would be my “playoffs” flask, and I would only pour from it during Dolphins playoff games. For the last couple of years I have seriously regretted that statement, lol. I FINALLY get to break it out this weekend, and I have aspirations of using it for many years to come. 🙂 Life is good.
Go Dolphins
Drunken monkey ^🐒
Definitely will be this Sunday 🙂
Ken says:
January 3, 2017 at 9:18 pm
Drunken monkey ^🐒
that so describes my life the last week or so.
Just a week?
Ken says:
January 3, 2017 at 9:27 pm
Just a week?
yeah. even for me it was a week i never thought i would be a part of. it was something that was over the top crazy. i didnt even need a sofa and chains. it was that wild and good.
No sofa and chains? Blasphemy!
Ken says:
January 3, 2017 at 9:33 pm
No sofa and chains? Blasphemy!
stop being jealous. i will still chain you to it. but at times it is not needed.
FFR:
So you are not going to be such an ornery bastard anymore?
Ken says:
January 3, 2017 at 9:37 pm
FFR:
So you are not going to be such an ornery bastard anymore?
wrong
Good
ken
and it isnt ornery bastard, you forgot the H
LOL
Playoff flask
FOX Sports’ Alex Marvez reports the Broncos’ head-coaching job is Dolphins DC Vance Joseph’s “to lose.”
Retired coach Gary Kubiak wanted to bring Joseph on as his defensive coordinator when he took the job in 2014, but the Bengals wouldn’t let him out of his contract when he was their DBs coach.
That is BS. Custom and practice in the league is that contracts don’t preclude a coach a promotion such as position coach to coordinator and coordinator to HC. A team can block a lateral move but not a promotional one
Now that I think about it I think that changed a few years ago.
Mike @ 8:40 p.m.
I wouldn’t want to cut him but if we could trade him to ARI, SF or even DEN for a 1st and 2nd I’d take that in a heartbeat. Pats want a 1st and 4th for Garoppolo.
Or CHI
Kenny Stills has a new avi for everyone because ESPN gives the Phins a 1% chance to win the AFC:
TALK TO YOU GUYS & GALS LATE SUNDAY NIGHT. –Off to Ft. Lauderdale.
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HOWIE — HOWIE — HOWIE
30-28 MIA
Picking with my heart, not my brain. GOOOO-O-O FINS!!!
Is it possible Brady has had more dildos than playoff appearances? I think so . . .
Lou
A 1st and 2nd for Maxwell? Yeah, I’d take that too! Besides that, he’s staying here. You need as many good CB’s you can find, so Maxwell will be on our team next season.