Week 3 – Game 2 – N.O. Saints @ Miami Dolphins in London, Wembley Stadium

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After a crushing week for the Miami Dolphins, they get to “host” the New Orleans Saints in London at Wembley Stadium.  This has been a bizarre season already, with Hurricane Irma postponing Game 1 against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, then flying to Los Angeles to play the Chargers in the Stub Hub Center, in which the capacity is just a little bigger than the Dolphins practice bubble (30,000 capacity).  We come out of Los Angeles with a victory by the skin of our teeth as Chargers kicker Younghoe Koo goes wide right attempting the game winning 44 yard FG.  Then we travel to New Jersey to face what everyone thought was the “tanking” NY Jets, the team seeking to get the 1st pick in the 2019 NFL Draft.  Well, surprise-surprise!  These NY Jets came to play, and though the Dolphins fanbase was present, with Dolfans NYC representing well with over a 1000 screaming Dolfans, along with the many other Dolphins fans that went on their own, they were all soon drowned out by a throaty NY crowd that smelled Dolphins blood in the water.  Attendance at Met Life was 77,562, and it was reportedly quite loud, especially compared to the paltry capacity of the Stub Hub Center in Cali.

Miami Dolphins v New York Jets

The Dolphins offense was completely over matched in all facets against the jets this past weekend.  We tried to run the ball, but there was no room anywhere, as the jets made it a priority to shut down Ajayi. When we gave up on the run game, and became one dimensional, neither jay Cutler, nor the O-line were up to the task, and the Jets defense that had previously swarmed Ajayi on every run was now all over Jay Cutler.  Cutler was sacked 3 times, but he was hit at least 3-4 times that during the game.  It was a bad game for Cutler, a bad game for the O-line, and a bad game for the defense, so basically, we got whipped in every area we could.  The Saints are coming off a blowout 34-13 win against the Carolina Panthers.  Cam Newton was worse than jay Cutler, throwing 3 INT’s and zero TD’s and our old Friend Ted Ginn Jr. caught a 40 YD TD for the Saints.

What can we expect from our team, who has had the strangest beginning to the 2017 NFL season?  I haven’t any idea.  Thankfully, the Saints don’t possess the defensive talent the NY Jets have.  They’re not horrendous, but they don’t have quite the talent of the Jets front 7.  The Saints play the 4-3 defense, led by LDE Cameron Jordan, 2nd year and former 1st RD pick (#12) DT Sheldon Rankins at DT, along with Tyeler Davidson and RDE Alex Okafor.  The Saints do have a quality LB in rookie Alex Anzalone (WLB), and fill it out with AJ Klein (SLB) and Craig Robertson (MLB).  Klein was picked up as a FA from Carolina, and Robertson picked up as a FA from Cleveland, so like Miami, they’re trying to throw pieces together to make it work.  Incidentally, as you all know, Stephone Anthony who the Dolphins traded for last week for a 2018 5th RD draft pick will get a chance to face his former team, as will WR Ted Ginn Jr.  The Saints have a decent secondary with corners Marshon Lattimore and PJ Williams, along with safeties Kenny Vaccaro and Marcus Williams.

The Saints offense is the strength of their team, led by QB Drew Brees, a fine young WR in Michael Thomas, the aforementioned WR Ted Ginn Jr., a good TE in Coby Fleener (AKA FleenAH), and a stable of capable RB’s including Mark Ingram, former Vikes great Adrian Peterson, and promising rookie Alvin Kamara.  The Saints so far are averaging 24.3 PPG, and are 3rd in the NFL in passing yards averaging 378.3 YPG.  See a problem there?  We just made an all-pro out of Josh McCown, so what will Drew Brees and the Saints offense do to us?  First of all, we have to have significantly better balance on offense.  Actually, forget balance, we just need to run the ball down their throats the entire game.  Ajayi is hurting, but he only had 11 carries this week, and I’d bet he’s hungry to have a big game.  I would also guess that we don’t want to put the game squarely on Jay Cutler’s severely diminished arm (Ha!), so this beleaguered O-line gets a shot at redemption by pushing the Saints defense all over the field.  This a “home” game, so hopefully we take advantage of that. On defense, we get a boost from the return of LB Lawrence Timmons from suspension, so hopefully his presence gives us a jolt.  The Saints packed up and left for London Sunday night after a celebratory dinner.  The Dolphins will be traveling to London on Friday.  We’ll see which strategy pays off.

GO DOLPHINS!  Zero in!

I know UK Fin Fan will be in attendance this Sunday, so let’s hope for his sake the Dolphins give him and us a great football Sunday!  We need it!

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1,284 Responses to Week 3 – Game 2 – N.O. Saints @ Miami Dolphins in London, Wembley Stadium

  1. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    David,
    It’s really good to see you on here!

  2. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Brian in NY says:
    September 28, 2017 at 8:06 pm
    Has Charles Harris played yet? I can’t remember hearing his name mentioned once.
    ——–
    1 solo tackle, 1 assisted tackle through 2 games.

  3. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    David, pee is not a shark repellent, I can tell you that.

  4. I was curious, but I can’t find any local bar opening at 830 am for London games, You guys can party down with the damn sunrise, lol

  5. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I think both the Miller Ale House and Bru’s Room are going to be open here in Boynton. Pretty sure the Hive in Lantana will be open too so I have options….But what I will probably do is go to starbucks, get back home by the middle of the 1st quarter and catch up on the DVR in commercials. LOL

  6. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I might not even watch the game live. 9:30 am is too early to ruin my Sunday…..

  7. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Maybe I’ll go about my sunday like it’s a normal game day, check in on here to see the “tone” before watching it at 1….

  8. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Anyone watching Bears vs Packers? Good game?

  9. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    GIANCARLO STANTON CRUSHES HIS 58TH home run of the season tonight in Miami vs. the Braves!! He needs 2 more to tie Babe Ruth and 3 to tie Roger Maris for most homers in a season w/o steroids or peds. But this may soon be bittersweet for Fish fans. Beginning next season, Stanton’s yearly salary doubles to $25M. Many in Miami expect the Jeter regime to trade Stanton during the off season. Seems like they’ve been doing this for the last 14 seasons!!
    ————–
    Turned over to watch Packers game only to see thousands fleeing their seats in Green Bay. I wondered, “Has Trump actually gotten the fans to leave a game en masse???” NO CHANCE!! Fans simply going to the concourse area waiting for the storm to pass!!

  10. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    STANTON HITS #59 in the 8th Inning vs. ATLANTA!!!!!!!! ANOTHER HUGE BOMB!!! THREE games left to tie or top Babe Ruth and Roger Maris!!
    WOW!!!
    WOW!!!
    WOW!!!

    • sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

      I’ll try to read this more when I’ve got time to sift through it but I was like hakfway through it and they had yet to make any points and the ones they did we’re contradictory.

  11. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    In tonights game every player stood for the national anthem.
    what a bunch of pussy sell-outs, they have this great cause, they disrespect the flag and kneel but yet when their lively hood is at stake they fold!
    Sell-outs! Wimps!
    I bet every player on every team will stand for the national anthem next week.

    Trump is the MAN!!

  12. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Be careful what the learn from you! 😦

    Elementary school student kneels during Pledge of Allegiance
    https://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/Elementary-school-student-kneels-during-Pledge-of-Allegiance-108114203

  13. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I’m very concerned about our matchup this weekend as you can tell from my prediction I don’t think we have the corners to cover their wide receivers and allowing a nearly 80% completion percentage against the first two teams this year who did not have Drew Brees throwing the ball really underlines that. I hope it has just been a fluke but I am pretty sure it’s not

  14. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    Howies List

    olddolphan 30-20 NO
    Rockphin 42- 13 NO
    herdfan 27-23 MIA
    The Flying Pig 28-24 MIA
    David C 30-8 MIA

  15. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    MIA 28 – NO 20

  16. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Just curious, because I was just thinking, I haven’t seen or really heard much of DE Charles Harris. Has anyone noticed if he’s playing much, and if he is, has he done anything positive?

  17. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Without looking . . . . Who is the Dolphins backup Long Snapper?

  18. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Mike Hull is the backup long snapper

  19. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I am, i caught it on the news
    ____________________________
    Rockphin says:
    September 29, 2017 at 7:21 am
    I thought you were boycotting?

  20. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Mike E,

    Uhhhh….yeah!

  21. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I didn’t see the game last night, but my guess would be GB’s O-line probably wasn’t great last night, since they had both tackles out, and I think even their backups were injured, so they had 4 OG’s on the line. Without his starting RB for the 2nd half, the Pack still managed to put up 35 points.

  22. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Just finalized the group seats for the Fest. Been pestering our sales rep over the last week and good news is that even if we are in the same section (323) the layout is much better than what we were reserved for. Seats 1-9 in Rows 29 and 30…..so on the aisle and with a rectangle BS zone.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Good job Stanger! Where were we last year, 314?

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Pretty sure it was 314…..and tried the same move as before to get us moved to the same. Just like last year they released a bunch of individual tickets — got our guy to get OK from his boss to move us there with the group discount. But this year they are just putting them up on the NFL tix exchange instead of keeping in-house. As she put it “once we send them to the exchange they are gone.”

  23. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    FEST — The Revenge Match

    Game is Sun, Oct 22 at one against the JETS. Seats will be $65 each for real cheap nosebleeds.Chef Warren tailgate as always.

    Reserved for D&B’s in Hollywood Sat night. Will be deja vu from last year. 6-10 in the pool table private area. Same food and drinks are on you.

    Fri nite Toba will be hosting a Hollywood Beach Adventure Tour.

    CONFIRMED
    Pig
    PhinDog +2 (plane and hotel done)
    Mike E +1 (plane and hotel done)
    Son +1 (hotel done)
    Chef Warren +1 (will be there before you)
    Stanger + 2
    Toba +1 (plane and hotel done)
    OD (+1?)….sitting with the crew.
    Brian in NY + son for his first game (in OD’s seats)
    Ken (not 100% sure but in for ticket)
    Krishna +1 (has own seats)

    La Quinta is out…but everyone so far is setting up in a small area around Hollywood Beach. You guys can blow it out Fri Nite and everyone gets to walk home.

  24. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    “Toba’s Awesome Hollywood Adventure”

  25. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    24-14 NO

  26. Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

    To Funny.
    Candy store company @ITSUGAR unveils a new breakfast of champions, “Sweeties” with chocolate chip cookie dough, end… https://t.co/5iBpjOQBA3

  27. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Barry Jackson‏Verified account @flasportsbuzz 1m1 minute ago
    More
    New: Dolphins mull running back personnel issue; Subpar Fins TV rating; Fins personnel notes:
    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article176098076.html

    • BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

      At this point anything that makes the offense score more than 12 points is good. pretty pathetic when we have an supposed “offensive guru” as HC.

  28. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Joe Schad‏Verified account @schadjoe 1m1 minute ago
    More
    Miami Dolphins: Do Rey Maualuga and Alterraun Verner plan to play? http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2017/09/29/miami-dolphins-do-rey-maualuga-and-alterraun-verner-plan-to-play/

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Rey better lose that piano on his back if he wants to play this season

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        I don’t even see where Maualuga is going to find playing time, with Stephone Anthony here, and Chase Allen showing he’s capable, along with Lawrence Timmons and Kiko Alonso

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Mike I think our run D has been good, because the D has been putting emphasis on it, but with Rey in there we may be able to play straight up run D giving the secondary less run support duties. Let them focus on the pass. Yeah, I don’t see Rey playing much, but it should allow us to package base our D with specialists.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Only way we get something out of Maualuga is if he realizes that he needs to show it in order to keep playing football. Bengals said he showed up for camp out of shape and everything since he has been here has shown that was true.

  29. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Steve

    I’d rather see Anthony out there than Maualuga. I can’t imagine he’s going to be that much more effective, and this way Anthony gets some playing time and gets closer to being a starter here.

  30. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Jason Lieser‏Verified account @JasonLieser 29s30 seconds ago
    More
    Dolphins LB Rey Maualuga (hamstring) listed as questionable, though he told @schadjoe today he thinks he’s out.

  31. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    Howies List

    olddolphan 30-20 NO
    Rockphin 42- 13 NO
    herdfan 27-23 MIA
    The Flying Pig 28-24 MIA
    David C 30-8 MIA
    Mike E. 28-20 MIA
    BoulderPhinfan 24-14 NO

  32. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, Maualuga never made it to camp with the Bengals, he was released in March and was a FA until he signed with us in August.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      You are right Tim and my bad for using “camp” like that. The reports of him being out football shape came when he went to FA tryouts and after he got to the Phins. Bengals still decided to cut him though. Assuming they had a gauge on his fitness as well.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        He became a 2 down LB with limited snaps and the Bengals decided to go young at LB. He’s 30 and limited now so he’s likely a depth player for us. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s inactive a lot of the time and there just in case of injuries.

      • D's avatar D says:

        He was going to get cut anyways. Being out of shape meant they couldn’t even count on him temporarily while burfict was on suspension

  33. D's avatar D says:

    Pear is also a fruit SB what all are you accusing him of?

  34. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    D, I was joking as if the type looked like you were looking at the stars. I’m well aware of zoom. LOL

  35. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    D, I think Maualuga was out of shape due to not having a team for almost 5 months. He might have thought he was out of the league until we gave him a call.

  36. D's avatar D says:

    Mauluga sitting down for a nice meal.

  37. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Tim Knight says:
    September 29, 2017 at 2:12 pm
    I think Mike is 1-2 thousand years older than me.
    ————————————————————–
    I fixed it for you

  38. D's avatar D says:

    They may have picked him us so we could have a reserve guy before what we knew would inevitably be the case, which is other teams and injuries and we wouldn’t have one of the more, comfortable to us, fall back options. Still id cut him right now and pick up Nickerson.

  39. D's avatar D says:

    Damn the Bucs have both Kwon Alexander and Levonte David out, as well as Jimmie Ward their starting SS. They better be glad the NYG’s arent a good running team.

  40. I will be watching our OL closely against Saints. What I hope to see is some room for Ajayi to bust through, and time for Cutler to look further than a inch or two beyond the line of scrimmage.
    I don’t have a problem with our short passing game, but it needs to be part of a totally balanced offense, not the whole thing.
    Sometimes it seems like 3 completed passes won’t even get the ten yards needed for the first. Toss in a penalty or negative play, and We will be punting that possession.
    I understand we had to get Cutler going , and conservative was best, but aggressive is needed now, We need more of what Sparano always called chunk yards, and finish drives in the end zone.

    It all starts with our OL, they do their jobs, everyone else’s job becomes much easier!

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      If we struggle moving the ball on the Saints defense and scoring on them then we’re not where we need to be because they stink. 437.7 YPG only ahead of the Pats at 461.0 YPG. The Saints are also 29th in PA at 26.0.

  41. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Oh, I remember watching Zoom on Saturday mornings. We’re gonna Zoom-A-Zoom-A-Zoom, We’re gonna Zoom-Zoom-Zoom-A -Zoom

  42. It’s shocking how bad the cheats defense is so far, if they don’t improve dramatically, they will have a handful of losses coming.
    Brady won’t be able to outscore the worst defense in the NFL everytime

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      They keep letting their players go and they’ve also had injuries. We have to get our shit together because maybe they’re ripe for the taking.

  43. On a ahem, brighter note,
    I ALMOST had some crummy health insurance, it’s just that damn missing senator in the hospitals fault.
    And people wonder why I can’t get behind pinnochio and support him, there are no senators in the hospital, and there is no insurance vote, again

  44. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    LOL @ ‘when fire was entertainment’

  45. Phel, please explain how our government should work, what we are seeing CANT be the correct way, because it’s not working

  46. I am curious as to why the president lying about senators in the hospital gives us far better insurance than Obamacare

  47. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Another great experience with Dolphins’ ticket rep. I emailed him with a question and not only did call back within 10 minutes to answer, but said if I was going to the New Year’s Eve game, he would get me on the sidelines for player intros.

  48. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    David

    What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

    Sweet Baby Jesus…educate yourself.

  49. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    RE: Ray Maloogaloogaloogaloogalooga. 1 malooga, 4 loogas (look it up)
    The fact he was out of a job, and apparently let himself go that bad, really makes me question his commitment. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if we get any good play out of him.

  50. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Can we all agree that Antifa are a bunch of ignorant, cowardly, pseudo communist shit heads?

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      I am not exactly everybody, but YES!

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t really agree with that to be honest
      I think they are the right’s current fantasy boogeyman
      A half-ass response to make a false equalavecy to white supremacist
      Pretty much just idealistic college kids
      And fairly harmless

      I would probably agree with ignorant, they seem young and dumb. I dont know if they are communist or not

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        They’re just more Soro’s paid puppets.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Fairly harmless? Have you seen the violence they have instigated out here in CA?

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I said pseudo because they don’t even realize they’d be dead or in prison for even trying that shit in a communist country. They carry the hammer and sickle flags and insult and even get physical with police. All while covering their cowardly faces.

        Sorry Piggy, you’re being way too pacifist with these assholes. Replace the word idealistic with stupid and I agree. LOL

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        No Cav I can’t say that I have
        Maybe I’m not giving them much credit
        Just seems like a bunch of dumb kids to me

        Steve – I don’t believe the whole Soros conspiracy stuff. He’s a rich liberal that gives to causes he believes in and nothing else

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I did say dumb Tim…lol

      I just don’t see them as threatening

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Smashing windows of businesses, throwing molotov cocktails at anything and everything, setting cars and buildings on fire, sucker punching people etc. No threat whatsoever. You really caught me off guard with your response.

        And fuck their 1st amendment rights, they don’t even believe in it.
        “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

        The problem is they don’t believe in peaceably.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Vadilism is not protected by the 1st amendment
        and they should be prosecuted like any other criminal for that

        but I think people at giving them more attention then they deserve in an attempt to play tit for tat

        it would be silly gto hold them up as outstanding citizens
        but they are they the equal to real threats to this counry like white supremacist – I say no way to that

  51. Phel, You didn’t see the president claim we have the votes, but one short, a senator in the hospital, so we won’t be able to meet the Friday deadline to vote on the graham Cassidy bill.

    There IS NO senator in the hospital! The con game is on!

  52. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    David – Watch this:

    Maybe it will help you understand how the U.S. government works.

  53. That’s what the citizens the president refuses to represent are, Riders on the Storm! 😎

  54. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Phelon

    The ticket agent obviously is unaware that you know OD

  55. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    David – Where are you getting your news from. Please not the Huffpo…

  56. Phel, I’m educated enough to find out no doctor wants to see my senator in the hospital lie card for health insurance, and I also remember Trump promising far better care and much lower premiums.

    I also remember that Obamacare was far superior than senators in the hospital insurance excuses

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      You cant get any more clueless, because that may be the dumbest thing you’ve ever said, and let me tell you, you’ve said…

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      I’ll try to type slow so you can keep up…

      Mitch McConnell (the Republican Senate Leader who is not the President) pulled the Graham-Cassidy Bill off the floor on Monday because three Senators (Rand, McCain, and Collins) said they would vote no, leaving the bill one vote short. Nothing about the President, nothing about a senator in the hospital. Cite your source.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        He’s not bullshitting
        I will see if I can find the Trump video
        You are right though – its an independent act to what actually happened
        but Trump still lied very publicly about a hospitalized senator (which had no effect on the bull)

      • O hell no, you accused me of not doing research, when you haven’t done it yet..
        I already did mine thank You.

      • Pig is always on top of things, wise man

      • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

        David – Typically, when one makes a wild ass accusation they are the one responsible for providing a source. When they don’t, it usually means they don’t have a credible,one. Since Piggy remembers it too, I will look myself. I think you’re full off shit and interpreting something the way that fits,your stance, but maybe I’m wrong.

  57. Steve, if I’m wrong, please send me a list of doctors that will accept any form of senators in the hospital , can’t vote insurance? Maybe there are some? Admit it, you can’t stand the fact Obama was a better president with health care, a lot of people on both sides don’t like it

  58. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    There is no such thing as “Trump Care.” Only the ACA. Why is that so hard to understand?

  59. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    At 1:20 is what David is referring too

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Its actually the second time he suggested that the bill did not pass bc a senator was in the hospital this week who would have voted his way. The senator actually tweeted he was not hospitalized

      I hear you on who is really responsible for legislation

      but a president is not just an empty suit
      they have a huge amount of influence on what is passed or not
      we call it Obamacare for a reason

      Trump needs do to a better job leading the way to get legislation passed
      Its a bad idea to start insulting McCain publicly after he refused to vote for the bill. Instead focus on comprising. Incidentally in that video clip he suggests working with democrats (which might not be a bad idea) to get something passed

      • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

        Thanks, Piggy. I’ll take a listen.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Trump actually sounds rational in that conversation and that says a lot coming from me

        I mean look at the end of the day if improving or repealing and replacing with something better is where we end up, that’s a great idea, so it really doesn’t matter where it comes from as far as I am concerned

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      And this is Trump tweeting about the hospitalized senator

    • That’s one, He lied 7 times

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Of all the things he said, that’s the focus? I’m not even sure what the hospital comment meant but maybe a senator is in the hospital that we’re not aware of.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        No – he’s not in the hospital
        but he may not have been available to vote based on a health issue – see below

        I’m pretty sure senate rules require you to be physically in the building (McCain flying to DC to cast the vote right after brain surgery is why I think this)

  60. Phel, please don’t accuse me of not doing research, when clearly We all could use some. Keeping it classy bro, i respect You even if we don’t agree

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      But David – see below
      That Senator was definitely having a health issue and may not have been available to vote

      • He responded that he is NOT in the hospital, he did have an earlier health issue, but he made it clear he is NOT in the hospital, and he will be able to come back and vote when needed. But trump ignored that, just kept claiming in the hospital 7 times

  61. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    And this is the senator he is talking g about

    Who did have a medical issue but is not hospitlized

  62. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    If the Senator is out ill, and won’t be participating on the vote, does it matter whether he’s in the hospital or just at home ill? Isn’t it the same end result?

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It’s really petty stuff that Trump haters jump on. They were also wrong about his attention to Puerto Rico. He was on it before the storm hit. It’s typical propaganda BS that pisses me off because this is also why we’re divided. It’s as if people root for the worst and don’t even realize it, specifically when they don’t know what they’re talking about.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        The problem though Tim, even though its a really small thing, is that its a re-occurring thing. He really seems lost sometimes

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      No its doesn’t
      its nitpicking really

      I was about to say – David, pick your battles!

      Let me tell you my Mustachio timeline (following a bunch of liberals) is littered with petty shit like this. but you can sift through it and look at it with a critical eye

      I think there is some value in criticizing Trump for being uninformed on the facts.

  63. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    The problem with the ACA is there were subsidies initially that made premiums lower. Those have gone or are going away, insurers have pulled out of the market and people are seeing HUGE premium increases. I’m not talking about something you see posted on social media. I’m talking about people I know, family members who have relayed what their premiums now cost. On top of that Medicaid was expanded to cover more people. That has to be paid for as well.

    Covering everyone with health insurance comes at a big price. You’re not going to see the kind of premiums you had before.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      It would be hard to sustain ACA
      But I do want to see some kind of public option down the line
      Really I would like to see radical changes in our spending

  64. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I proudly blow up everyone’s game….lol

  65. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I guess if he said a senator is sick all would be better. Wow, this is where we are. Fuck it, we’re doomed with this kind of thinking.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Well look Tim
      A major component of hating Trump (and I’m an authority on it😝)
      Is how unprofessional, unprepared and unqualified he is

      He can’t speak publicly like he is firing from the hip all the time

      Check out this thing about PR and try not to laugh at him – that’s your president!

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        We don’t need to get into all that again, we’ve discussed who he is adnauseam. That video was based on one word. He wasn’t anything like you think he is in that video.

        I’m really fucking tired of this anti-American BS. It’s always about who lost. The Tea Party was anti-American towards Obama when they lost. It’s the same fucking thing just the other side now. If people can’t see that and they take a laissez faire attitude towards everything, then that’s why we’re where we are. Really sad.

        Did you like my 4 words in a row staring with “W”? LOL

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I am surprised he didn’t point out that the water was wet and follow your alliteration lead….lol

  66. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    The whole hospital thing… that’s the problem with Trump, The Embellisher in Chief. Someone is sick, he says they’re in the hospital. It totally ruins any chance he has of establishing any kind of credibility.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      yes exactly

      the office of the president is so important
      we depend on credibility

      on day 1 he has Spicer disputing crowd sizes

      and yes – people at obsessed with calling him out on very misstep
      but credibility matters

  67. Does it matter the president lied 7 times about the senator in the hospital? What is so wrong with just being honest once in awhile, he lies non stop about everything

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Is that really a lie or possibly incorrect information, which in reality in this particular situation, had no relevance on the matter in the least. You’re making something of nothing.

      • I don’t think so, the president is either ill informed, deceitful, both, and incompetent the vast majority of the time in My opinion, and some polls show the majority of Americans feel he is dishonest and unqualified

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        It’s unbelievable. “It depends upon what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is. This is the kind of shit that’s been going on for far too long.

  68. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    You could also say Obama lied. How many times did you hear’ you can keep your same insurance. Nothing is going to change.’ People have short memories on this.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      You can say that

      But its kind of more like a prediction that is wrong in that case rather than being unprepared. Obama was always prepared and was a great orator. He just may have been pushing for the wrong things

      • herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

        I’m not buying that. I’m not certain but I think that was a PROMISE. But he is a politician so I guess no one should have believed anything he said in the first place.

        I agree he gave a great speech. Trump obviously doesn’t. But to compare them and say Obama’s ‘lies’ were ok because he’s a better speaker? That’s a huge issue in this country. Form over substance. I’m not saying Trump has substance either. Just that we seem to not care as much if our lies come in a pretty package.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I didn’t say “okay”
        but he is predicting a future event rather than reciting what already occurred
        Trump gets facts that already occurred wrong
        so I think there is a big difference

        I think Obama hurt his credibility by getting it wrong as well

        but personally, telling me something that occurred did not happen is worse that being wrong about a prediction

  69. I guess some may not care he lies, but the end result is no health care repeal and replace, like he promised. Like his promises mean anything, but

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I care

      I just say pick your battles and take everything with a grain of salt

      there is some misinformation about Trump out there
      for instance – he is not ending DACA. Its an executive order that was scheduled to expire when drafted and both Obama and Trump knew that, asked Congress to act and believe it or not, seem to be on the same side of it.

  70. ACA is being deliberately sabotaged instead of maintaining it and promoting it. It’s more about get rid of the hated guy from kenyas insurance at any cost, than coming up with something better.

  71. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    They all lie. I certainly didn’t vote for Trump for his veracity. Lately, I wonder if I should have voted for him at all, but then I remind myself it was either him or Hillary, and I feel better.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      but you need a commander in chief people take seriously or the whole thing crumbles

      and he has gone far below the standards of most politicians

  72. Good thing the senator wasn’t in the hospital, unless he has Obamacare, lol jk

  73. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    So maybe the claims weren’t lies, but a mistake? Senator went to hospital sick, went home to recuperate? Still needed to be there to vote. And while they had three republicans say no, they may have had some Democrats in there pocket, like Manchin.

    “Trump’s repeated claims about a hospitalized senator were an apparent reference to Sen. Thad Cochran, R-Miss.

    For his part, Cochran tweeted yesterday to clarify that he was ill but not in the hospital.

    “Thanks for the well-wishes. I’m not hospitalized, but am recuperating at home in Mississippi and look forward to returning to work soon,” Cochran tweeted.”

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      The quote is from USAToday.

      See how that works David?

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Oh the horror! He said hospital. So someone told Trump he was ill and maybe in the hospital, but wasn’t correct. Still ill but not ready to show up.

      I’m not sure where you would start to help decrease the divide in this country. We’re in TMZ territory now. FB is loaded with it and so much of it is debunked on both sides. It’s okay for everyone to lie or embellish in the name of your agenda. Great!

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I mean yes – this is why I say “pick your battles”

        but Trump should know better

        That clip I posted is actually the second time he said it into a microphone
        He said it before then, and was called out on it

        then he said it again in that clip

        So there is a possibility he is intentionally misrepresenting the truth bc he had reason to know it was wrong the first time

        This would not be so bad if there were hoards of people who believe everything he says and never look into it – but there are people who don’t scrutinize what he says at all

  74. He also lied that was the only vote missing, when it was in fact several votes short

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      See above. They were 1 vote short of the 50 needed. One Democrat whose state would benefit crossing the line would be all they needed.

      You are completely unhinged over President Trump.

      • Nope, it’s there to find, there weren’t enough votes

      • herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

        That’s the thing. I wasn’t in favor of Obama when he was elected, largely due to the ACA. It wasn’t viable, they rushed it out just to do it. But I didn’t lose it over it like everyone seems to be doing with Trump.

        And the odd thing is, the more people attack Trump, the worse he seems to be. It’s insane.

  75. D's avatar D says:

    Mike E. says:
    September 29, 2017 at 3:02 pm

    I was around before fire was entertainment. We used to gather and watch dust get blown around by the gods. That was fun!
    ——————————————
    MikeE watched rocks form, he remembers when Loin cloth was just called clothes.

    He remembers when rainbows only had shades of black and white

    He remember when furniture at an antique store was just less “modern” shaped rocks,

    He’s so old that his village’s first airport was a pterodactyl nest.

    He’s so old he has the history of the world on one stone tablet.

    He’s so old that he fit Methuselah for his first pair of glasses, and was the first to “lend a hand” to Adam.

    He remembers when the day the Dead Sea died, everyone knew it was sick but they sure thought it would pull through.

    He is so old than when we went to the theater to watch Jurassic Park, he had to leave because it brought back too many painful memories.

    He remembers when Moses split the red sea, because it ruined what was turning out to be an epic fishing day.

    And finally……

    He’s so old that when he reads Genesis he’s already got that far away look in his eyes by the time he gets to “In the beginning…..”.

  76. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    “He is so old than when we went to the theater to watch Jurassic Park, he had to leave because it brought back too many painful memories”

    I just cracked up in my office over this one. That’s funny as hell! Good thing I wasn’t drinking anything at the moment, I would have spit that shit all over the place

  77. Phel, I’ll concede you 7’mistakes, what i see as intentional and chronic lying , but can We at least agree some may see there is a pattern of these kind of “mistakes” and it seems very deceitful overall

  78. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    “The problem though Tim, even though its a really small thing, is that its a re-occurring thing. He really seems lost sometimes.”

    Pigs – There have been just as many instances when he has been laser-focused and on top of the subject, like at the UN when speaking about North Korea.

  79. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    David – There weren’t enough Republican votes. Just like the debt ceiling vote, President Trump has shown that he is not adverse to working with the Democrats and it would only take one to pass it.

    Should I post the Schoolhouse Rock arithmetic episode?

  80. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Let’s start here – Reagan lied, Bush lied, Clinton lied, Bush lied, Obama lied, Trump lied. Do we see a pattern here? And who do you think accuses these presidents of lying?

  81. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    What “mistakes” cost you money and what are you sources for the Iranian missile launch statement.

    • Trumps tweets are the source, he tweeted Iran launched a missile. The sources I already researched saying we did not , are there for everyone to research. I won’t list them because I think You may have not had enough time to research it yourself. But honestly, I hope You get back with Me and let me know in your opinion, did Iran launch a missile?
      Thanks

  82. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Phish

    Are you referring to the UN speech where he called him “Rocket Man”
    bc I don’t have such a great impression of that speech either

    I do like Nikki Haley though – Every time she speaks about North Korea I like what she has to say

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Ah…See I liked the Rocket Man speech. You can’t ignore and appease the Un’s of the world.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I actually did not see it in its entirety so I’m not going to speculate

        I just don’t even think Rocket Man is a very good insult: It sounds like a super hero, its a great song, and it acknowledges his capacity to have dangerous weapons. It probably doesn’t even translate to much of an insult in Korean…but I’m just noticpicking…:D

  83. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    And no one is sabotaging ACA. It is unfolding exactly as it was written. Easily foreseeable, but you know….you have to pass it to no what is in it.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      premiums will continue to rise (which is what I think you mean in terms of failure) all on its own – I agree

      I think what gets Trump into trouble on this is the hyperbole on the subject saying things like he will let Obamacare fail if we don’t repeal and replace it

      He campaigned on repealing and replacing Obamacare and now he threatens to let it fail – so that will cause people to blame him if it does fail, even though that’s not really how it works

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Know not no

  84. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Is there a Dolphins game on Sunday?

  85. There are so many things happening so fast, it’s damn near impossible to stay up on all of it unless you waste too much time, lol. Anyways, Dolphins are going to beat the Saints 30-8, Gase gets the offense figured out! 😎

  86. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I’m very proud of this blog to stay on topic without insults. It’s really no different than debating the Phins or football in general. You can challenge others with intel or facts or opinions, but no reason to insult someone personally.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I concur… yet it’s still like watching paint dry. And nobody actually changes their opinion after having such dialogue. But I swear, I can see everybody’s blood pressure going up when talking politics.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        It’s the way they are discussed and not whether they are discussed that’s the difference maker

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I’m cool with everyone here expressing opinions. No blood boiling. But Antifa, I have some other views on how I’d like to see them dealt with.

        My friend said to me he’d love to see pro-American bikers engage them wherever they are. That would be fun. LOL

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Tim, you don’t even have to ask my opinion on how I feel and what I’d do about Antifa. Needless to say, I’m with ya… and THEN some.

  87. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I’d like to see Cutler open it up with his rocket launcher… we saw it in the preseason. I’ve no idea why he’s playing so tamed. And as we all heard this week, he says his arm is just fine.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      He’s not going to say it’s not. I want to see it this Sunday and not concern me like it did against the Jets.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I think he needs to go deep early
      I figure the offense is still new to him…maybe…who knows
      But they’ve been too conservative in games 1 and 2

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        The other thing is that we’ve been seeing a lot of 8-in-the-box against our Offense. I’d also like to go deep early to keep that box open for Ajayi.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        We have to start hitting on passes down the field or what’s the point of having guys like Stills and Parker or even slipping out Thomas on a mismatch? We have this talent and we’re playing like Tony Sparano. Gase open it up, it can’t be any worse than 6 points at the end of the game just to end a shutout.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Yeah – and it also feels like teams know exactly what we are going to call

      • Much agreed we have been too conservative, but we had reasons to be bringing in Cutler and the jets intense pass rush. Key to being More aggressive starts in the trenches IMO. Give Cutler more time, and Ajayi more room, they know what to do with it!

  88. Last post on trump today, promise, lol
    It figures he fucked up and went with Rocket Man, when Tiny Dancer was available , lol

  89. Respectful bunch of guys here! We just need a Dolphin win in London, and get things straightened out at home against the Titans. As bad as last weeks loss was, we are 1-1

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Indeed we DO need this win in London, in order to keep us relevant after the 1st quarter of the season. I don’t want to go in the hole early as we did last season.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      David, like with the Dolphins, we all want the same thing. To see them be successful. The same with our country. Just like we’re not all high on some of our players, even QB lol, it’s the same with our government. At the end of the day people want to feel like their rights are legit and being looked out for. Just like a team wants to know they have each other’s back.

  90. The patriots have the weakest team they have had since 2008, IMO
    Their defense is horrific, and they are beatable this year . They could lose 5-6 games, so it behooves us to get something going this year , like we did in 2008. Not the wildcat part, lol just the winning the AFC east part

  91. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I see my man Terron Armstead is injured for the Saints. He’ll be replaced by R1P32 Ryan Ramczyk at LT.

    I was curious to see if Charles Harris had ever faced Ramczyk in college: the answer is no. So at any rate and when Harris is in the game, it will be rook vs rook. This may be Harris’ chance to get his 1st sack as an NFL player going against a backup (albeit 1st Rounder) LT in Ramczyk.

  92. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    This is what I think Gase is dealing with. He’s a 2nd year HC, can’t just be offense, 23 new players on the team, many of them rookies or young, and many 2nd and 3rd year in-house players. He’s not trusting it all right now so he’s a bit queasy. LOL

    I’m serious. But you know what, what’s the worst that’s gonna happen, 4 turnovers and another loss? Okay well then why is that? Find out early. They talked about Mike McCarthy last night that he likes to play young players early because they often end up playing in December and January. But he doesn’t hold back from taking shots. Yes he has Rodgers, but still. Maybe that’s why he’s Rodgers. He isn’t coddled. Go for it, use what you have and if it’s not good enough, you try to add players who can be that next year.

    Gase needs to get out of his bummed out stage right now and that’s what he is.

  93. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    David Hookstead‏Verified account @dhookstead 36m36 minutes ago
    More
    Colin Kaepernick donated $25,000 to a charity honoring a convicted cop killer. His career is officially dead.
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/29/colin-kaepernick-donates-money-to-charity-honoring-convicted-cop-killer/

    • His career was already dead, what started as a call for rights, ended up in him being blackballed, and he reacts by matching wrongs with wrongs.
      At this point, hopefully Kap can both bring awareness to a cause, understand the backlash and career blackballing, and yes, contributing to bullshit charities.
      He may actually need mental help at this point, and at best, he will stand as a lesson of how not to go about things, there were certainly better ways it could have played out for him, but his self defeating behaviour, rules his day

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