Game Wrap Up with the Little Prawn: Week 3


Ahh…the football season is under way ad early in the season we got the horrible jests…so easy win right?

Eh…right Prawny?

FU Prawn

Prawny…What’s wrong…it’s just the jests?

Oh…I see…yeah.  Not a lot of highlights on Sunday.

The Dolphins were horrible against the Jests mustering only 225 yards (most of them in the air and late in the game)

The Jets held the ball for 36:08 to the Dolphins 23:52 in what was a disaster.  The Dolphins narrowly avoided being shutout.  It was just ugly.  why re-live it.

poop game



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627 Responses to Game Wrap Up with the Little Prawn: Week 3

  1. BailBondMike says:

    SB7, that would be cool! Though we would probably have to meet at my office. I mainly work Fri through Sun, 8am to 6pm. Working week nights in addition to cover one of our bondsmen who is out with an injury and cant drive for three months. Sucks, but extra $$ has been nice. The boss does have the Sunday ticket for me at work though. lol Wanted to meet up with D at a Senior Bowl in Mobile a few years back but then I switched to weekends and could not pursue it.

  2. stangerx says:

    Hope this Wash Post FF guy is right, least about Parker.

    “Trade For: DeVante Parker, WR, MIA
    I mentioned Parker as a “must-start” in last week’s column. No question, coming out of perhaps the NFL’s most embarrassing Week 3 loss, the bloom is off Miami’s rose. That’s a good time to pounce. I know the Dolphins would prefer to be a running team behind Jay Ajayi and I know that by investing in Parker, you’re also investing in Jay Cutler by proxy. But I said it last week: Parker is on the verge of becoming a force that no game plan or quarterback can suppress.

  3. ElephantRider says:


    I hope we never meet………… professionally. 🙂

  4. BoulderPhinfan says:

    Maybe Tunsil wasn’t ready to take over the LT job. He hasn’t been playing very well. The whole oline has issues. That and our secondary. Now we’re gonna be playing Brees and that offense. IF we don’t score some points the game on Sunday good get ugly.

    • The Flying Pig says:


      but give him time

      IMO the OL woes have a lot more to do with predictable play calling in the first 2 games than anything else

  5. stangerx says:

    MetLife takeover was going on strong…..

  6. Jahndoh30 says:

    I am uncomfortable with that kneeling during the national anthem. But I accept that discomfort, because it is less uncomfortable than being assumed a criminal simply because of my skin color.

    I loved this Rhino!


    I will gladly meet you…professionally! So long as you’re a beer drinker, and we meet at my place of work rather than yours. 🙂

  7. Jahndoh30 says:

    Something has to give for the OL, we’ve been investing for years in it and it’s rarely come to fruition as a good pass blocking unit (we’ve had fits and spurts as a running team of course).

    Not sure if the answer is to stay the course or shake it up TBH…

  8. Rockphin says:

    sb7mvp says:
    September 25, 2017 at 11:42 am

    It’s really interesting to see who on this blog are hardcore anti-freedom.

    They are only anti-freedom if that freedom offends their sensibilities. The whole argument that the NFL players disrespected the military is ridiculous. Hundreds of thousands have died to support their right to protest and have free speech.

  9. mf13ss says:

    Adam Caplan
    Adam Caplan @caplannfl
    CFLs Saskatchewan Roughriders signed former NFL 1st round RB Trent Richardson.

  10. mf13ss says:

    Rick Westhead @rwesthead
    Breaking: Boston University researchers say they have developed a method that may help diagnose CTE in living patients.

  11. mf13ss says:

    Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo
    Lawrence Timmons reinstated by the Dolphins and expected to play Sunday, as @AdamSchefter said. Suspension could’ve been 4 weeks. Only one.

  12. stangerx says:

    Saints and Phins took different ways to get ready for the UK game. Assuming the Saints had their day off in London once the plane landed. Worse places to have one.

    “The New Orleans Saints celebrated their win over the Carolina Panthers by eating a team dinner, loading onto a plane and lifting off at around 7:25 EST, landing in London roughly eight hours later, beginning a week of preparation …. Both Jacksonville and Baltimore, the two teams that played in Wembley on Sunday, didn’t land in London until Friday, the same plan the Dolphins will follow.”

  13. The Flying Pig says:

  14. D says:

    Reviewing the constitution:

    “THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers , that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.”

    “First Amendment

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    The 5th Amendment says: no person can be deprived of the right to life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness without due process of the law. Pretty sure that in some of these cases, the ones they are protesting, this can be claimed, giving ground for grievance.

    Eight Amendment says: Excessive bail, fines, nor cruel and unusual punishment be inflicted. Pretty sure they actually are in violation of all three. A lot of times bail is such a high amount that it is unable to be met, many times fines for crimes are such that it completely bankrupts a person, and of course the cruel and unusual punishment part is more at the core of this grievance.

    The President also makes an oath, a verbal commitment, to the country and it people to “faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

    One other section interested me:

    Amendment 2 under the section of the Judicial Branch:
    My interpretation of this article says to me that the jurisdiction to determine if there is a violation of civil rights. Consider if you feel like kneeling for the anthem is such a violation, and that punishment should be considered for the act, ie they should be fired for it, sued, etc.The interpretation of this claim lies with the interpretation of the constitutional rights, and this can only be done by the Supreme Court. The judicial branch has direct authority when any conflict between two individuals or groups, being those two groups are governed by two different states, are at conflict over their rights as a citizen of the US. The Executive and Legislative branches of the United stats have no jurisdiction to rule on any such matter. If there were governed by the same state, the state legislation would have jurisdiction, as long as the given the state was upholding the rights as a US Citizen. If the State seemed to be in conflict with the Constitution, it could be appealed to the Supreme Court instead. So no matter how you slice it, Trump was in violation of his rights as the President of the United states to even suggest that they be punished.

    So distasteful as it may be, the best that can be done and the most that should be done is for those who feel offended by them to stop contributing to them (although im sure someone will attempt a lawsuit based upon PTSD and emotion duress from the protesting of the anthem). Your right is not to control their action but modify your own. Dont buy their jerseys, don’t pay for NFL Sunday Ticket, don’t buy tickets, hell don’t watch games so their ratings tank, but don’t think that they should be denied their constitutional rights.

    We all understand what these rights mean, and i dont care if you are uber liberal nor uber conservative, everyone here wants to protect those right. We just got to understand we are only seeing our own side on this. The right sees the it as ugly to the vets, and other citizens of this country, the left sees it as ugly to the protestors right and ugly to citizens of this country too. Its both, and the sooner we start seeing that, the sooner we get to finding a better way to get this shit resolved.

    Stills and Thomas were doing this already, they had moved past it, they were no longer going to kneel, but as soon as Trump got on there and did that, they were back to kneeling because they wanted to be defiant in the face of tyranny. America was formed off that same principal. If we let it, this had a terminal point, it has a place where we likely learn something, grown and move past it, but as long as more fuel is being thrown on the fire, and the spotlight keeps shining brihter and brighter, this isnt going to make it to that place. Instead we will stay living in this moment, angry with each other and in complete disagreement on how to handle it.

  15. Mike E. says:

    With Timmons coming back, it looks like Hull is out. Does Timmons play MLB, or does Alonso go back to the middle?

    • Tim Knight says:

      Not sure, I believe Hull was the MLB flanked by Alonso and Timmons, and Allen replaced Timmons. I still think we’ll see them all play.

    • D says:

      Hull has some decent stats, but he wasnt playing very well. Clay Aikens was playing better than him and definitely was not as much of a liability in pass defense. It might be that Allen moves to the middle, i think they wanted to use Timmons at the SLB spot. Im not sure if he will start this coming week, even though they have said he might or could. I think that was just saying he isn’t under further restrictions by the team, it doesn’t mean he is who they will go with. I would be we at least see him though, and very possibly Anthony a bit as well. Did they have to cut anyone to re-activate him?

  16. D says:

    mf13ss says:
    September 26, 2017 at 2:18 pm

    Rick Westhead @rwesthead
    Breaking: Boston University researchers say they have developed a method that may help diagnose CTE in living patients.
    They can already come to a pretty close conclusion that what a person has is CTE related if you use a combination of radiological exams, injury history and psychological examinations. The are likely coming up with a way to get an accurate and one sample kind of test to know with a low deviation that a person has it. It would be nice too if it let the person know what stage they are in, ie if each knock to the noggin has a cumulative effect, how progress are you so you can get out while the gettin is good.

  17. manitobafinfan says:

    OROB: Thank you for posting your attempt to book at La Qinta…the hotel sustained a fair amount of damage is not opening until 10/22


    Unfortunately it now appears we no longer have rooms for the Fest..

    wife and I will be looking into scramble plans tonight..

  18. Mike E. says:


    From the article I read, it sounded like Hull was being pulled, and Timmons was going to be inserted into the lineup. Whether he was going to play ILB was not made clear.

  19. manitobafinfan says:

    Mike E yes that will be next area of focus..

  20. D says:

    stangerx says:
    September 26, 2017 at 4:11 pm

    Good news, but there is some kinda of story to that….wonder if we ever hear it.
    Not that it would do us any good but i would too. Hell id like to know just why he got suspended. Was it because something like that cant go unpunished, or was there more to it like they needed to buy time to see if anything sneaky sneak happened when he went to an opposing team in the AFC, and hung out in their locker room, with who knows what being exchanged as far as defensive playbook, etc.

  21. Mike E. says:

    Clay Aikens = Chase Allen

  22. Tim Knight says:

    Miami Dolphins
    We have reinstated linebacker Lawrence Timmons and have waived linebacker Justin March-Lillard.

  23. manitobafinfan says:

    Thanks Stanger.. I will toss the Westin link at the wife.. … I did not understand the upstream comment.. is that another hotel ?

  24. D says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    September 26, 2017 at 2:14 pm


    Rosa Parks was not protesting public transportation
    One person isn’t a protest, its standing up for your self. When people come together to stand up for others, together, that’s a protest. Trump has made this a full scale protest.All those who feel that the protests are wrong, and that the protesters are not legitimate in their claims, you should really hate what Trump did because it certainly took a smoldering ember and turned it into a forest fire. He legitimized their claims. On top of that, it was showing signs of moving on from being a protest to being the point of change. He definitely pressed the reset button on that.

    Incidentally, the Rosa Parks thing, was at the core of the Montgomery Bus Boycott, which was one of the first big events that MLK led. I respect MLK a lot, and i think if MLK was doing this, he would have used the same pulpit, but i know he wouldn’t have started things off like Kaepernick did, and i know that he wouldn’t have extended the protest past the point he needed to get right attention and effect a change. In the Montgomery Bus boycott, While they were still protesting, he tried to organize sit down meetings, to work things out with the opposition. It took a while but he won hearts and minds over with how he did things, non-violently, with a lot of work outside just the protesting. He was a real leader and a person looking for real change.

    I also think the way Kaeprnick handled himself is part of the disagreement on these protests. I think its part of why people arent legitimately thinking about this as a protest or injustice. If he had been a better face for the movement, a more MLK like leader, this might not be an issue no and certainly even if not fully resolve, it would be a lost closer to it.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I also think Kaepernick mishandled the approach to bringing attention to this with his protest

      our country has a despicable history of racism but we also have a proud tradition of civil rights

      I like to see American Pride associated with that tradition rather than our shortcomings. In other words describing discrimination as un-American

      But I think Kaepernick went for the tact of bringing attention to the problem – so I don’t criticize him too much for his tact but it does get under my skin a little

  25. manitobafinfan says:

    Mike E: Are you staying same place as last year ?

  26. D says:

    Props to you MikeE for the clever way to call me out writing an article as a post lol.

  27. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    September 26, 2017 at 4:52 pm

    Miami Dolphins
    We have reinstated linebacker Lawrence Timmons and have waived linebacker Justin March-Lillard.
    Thanks Tim i had just asked who was dropped for Timmons.

  28. D says:

    Hey Jahn and Toba,

    While i agree with ya that there is a good bit of skin color making cops have their mind made up on if they are guilty of being a criminal or not, i dont think this is the major reason this shit happens.

    Its seems to me to be more because of fear and poor training. Almost every one of the videos that have been released have seemed more like that than really thinking they are criminals or racial prejudice. You can see in more seasoned cops, that they ed-escalate situations and a lot of the younger newer ones, many times make the situation worse. In fact most every time these cop involved shooting of questionable nature seem to be with either new or young cops. I think thats more telling of a a training issue, which is also funding issue. Some people are not cut out to be cops, but if its the applicants you are getting, or the only ones willing to take that shitty salary to put themselves in harms way every day, you take what you can get.

  29. D says:

    stangerx says:
    September 26, 2017 at 4:49 pm

    Toba — glad to help best as can……one suggestion upstream, even just from what I know about my area.
    Stay upstream from people urinating in the river too

  30. manitobafinfan says:

    good to hear Doggie.. I thought I had seen ya comment on that earlier.. okay so we will let ya know where we end up.. hopefully have an answer tonight.. Man is the WIFE gonna be stressing !!!!!

  31. Mike E. says:


    We stayed in both Westin Hotels. We liked the Diplomat better, but both were nice.

    • stangerx says:

      Didn’t remember you guys stayed at the other Westin (better value but farther north). And since he doesn’t like the beach…. 🙂

      • Mike E. says:

        The first time we stayed at the Westin that had Shula’s Steak House in it. Not sure if that’s the link you put up, I didn’t look at it.

      • stangerx says:

        That Shula’s is gone, but same hotel on the Lauderdale Beach where I picked you guys up first time around. And if none of the options work out for Toba….there is always the Ramada. And actually that neighborhood is looking a lot more upscale these days.

  32. D says:

    stangerx says:
    September 26, 2017 at 5:50 pm

    You are on fire today D. 🙂
    manitobafinfan says:
    September 26, 2017 at 5:50 pm

    that’s how we keep from freezing up here.. not a real issue in SO FL.. 🙂
    You burn people like me?!?!?! Damn that’s brutal, Canada is way worse than America then. I mean, here we just bitch at each other when we don’t agree…

    • D says:

      And just to think, when i was making my “Escape from America plans, INITIALLY i had Canada on my list….boy no longer, glad i found this stuff out before it would have been too late.

  33. D says:

    I thought you guys bunked with strippers at the La Quinta every year. Do they not have the “hepatitis c – split the cost” deal anymore?

  34. mf13ss says:

    I’m seeing a lot of chatter on Twitter regarding our O-Line and the solutions being proposed are all over the place CRAZY… they aren’t even worth mentioning here.

    Stanger and I concurred shortly after our last game that our O-Line was problematic and it certainly is… but here’s why…

    Tunsil (only a handful of starts at LT as a pro last year after being moved to LG) has never played next to Steen before; Steen (new to the Gase Offense) has never played next to Pouncey before; Pouncey (didn’t see action until week 5 last year before ending his season after week 9) has only ever played 5 games next to Bushrod before. Bushrod (playing RG for the very first time last year) played next to James for all 16 games last year.

    Add 3 more elements to the equation…
    1) It was EVERYBODY’S first time playing in the Gase Offense last year (ground-zero, if you will).
    2) Pouncey lost valuable experience (gel-time) in playing next to his mates last year in missing 11 regular season games. Plus, he was held out of most of camp and the preseason this year.
    3) Brand new QB in Jay Cutler.

    There is ZERO continuity/gel-time (aside from Bushrod and James) from last year’s ‘ground-zero’ installment of the Gase Offense.

    As far as I’m concerned, this unit is quite literally learning on the job in how to work next to one another. Give it a few more weeks and we’ll see where we’re at on the O-Line (PLEASE no more injuries). And keep in mind, this O-Line matter is negatively impacting Jay Cutler as well… that may well account for so very many check-downs through the first 2 weeks, not to mention unfamiliarity with his new receiving corps.

    I urge patience with our team this season… which we’re ALL tired of practicing, I know.

    • mf13ss says:

      I shouldn’t have stated that Steen is brand new to the Gase Offense, rather that he’s the new starting LG instead of Tunsil from last year… but I hope y’all got the point I was trying to make.

    • Tim Knight says:

      They played well in LA. The entire offense looked out of sync against the Jets. Not getting everyone lined up, the clock running down, false starts and delay of games. Then individual performance seemed lackluster from a lot of players. The Cutler dead arm possibilities. We had a weird start to the season going out West then coming back to go back on the road in NJ. Players saying they thought they didn’t practice well all week. The Timmons stuff. It might have just been a bad week and now we have to go to London to play our first home game. 😦

      Let’s hope we get a win against the Saints and get back on track. I don’t want us to lose but the Saints being NFC isn’t a bad loss if it happens. This team needs less drama and more normal.

  35. mf13ss says:

    Adam Beasley‏Verified account @AdamHBeasley 25m25 minutes ago
    Landry will not be prosecuted because “there is no reasonable likelihood of conviction.” Could still face NFL punishment.

  36. Tim Knight says:

    M13, our OL has not been a talent issue but one that can’t keep 5 starters on the field week to week and we’re still developing depth. So we have no history of good continuity yet we made the playoffs without Pouncey last year. I think we’ll be alright if stay relatively healthy.

    Also Tunsil needs some seasoning like all young LTs. It’s not an easy position to play as we’ve seen from a lot of high draft pick LTs over the last bunch of years. It takes these guys a year or two to get to the projected level if they ever do.

    • mf13ss says:

      EXACTLY, Brother! That’s what I’m getting at. I think we’re going to be alright, but we can’t truly evaluate this O-Line until there’s more gel-time among them due to what you and I have stated.

      I hope that by week 6, we’re going to see the O-Line primed to become a top unit in the league. It’s ALL about that gel-time when it comes to the O-Line, buddy.

      Good post.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Thanks! I’ve heard coaches say many times that it takes 4-5 weeks for an OL to really get going do to the lack of physical practices. Their game is based on being physical. So they’re getting the majority of their work in games that count. But that goes for all teams and that’s why the overall quality of football I’ve seen this year and over the years since the new CBA, is not very good early on.

  37. Brian in NY says:

    Where did you stay last year?

  38. mf13ss says:

    Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 6m6 minutes ago
    Steelers’ Alejandro Villanueva is donating all proceeds on his jersey/apparel sales to USO and other military non-profits, as he always has.

  39. The Flying Pig says:

    So no more La Quinta?

  40. mf13ss says:

    D says:
    September 26, 2017 at 4:23 pm
    Reviewing the constitution…

    What you’ve posted applies to the GOVERNMENT, not business (BIG or private, including the NFL). Constitutional scholars and attorneys have already weighed in on this issue… President Trump didn’t cross a single line — nor did he even threaten an executive order or introduction of any new law regarding this issue — while practicing his own 1A rights (Obama did it ALL the time as well).

    But I WILL tell you this, my friend… I feel that businesses VERY often overstep the Constitution itself here in America (David and I 100% agree on that much). And with that stated, I think it’s time for Goodell to stop being a punk with his “tyrannical powers” (NOT President Trump) as Commish. He’s playing judge, jury, and executioner as he sees fit with his political agenda. And to think he may still suspend Jarvis Landry, even though Jarvis seems to be cleared by the law… WOW, SMH.

    If one wants to talk about the Constitution, it’s time to realize that President Trump IS observing as much… Roger Goodell is NOT as a biz Commish.

    D: I’m TIRED of businesses raping the worker. I think it’s time the NFL players protest Goodell and the owners. I think the Constitution should be 100% applicable to business practices, and I think(?) you’d agree! 🙂

    • Tim Knight says:

      All of Goodell’s actions are based on making the NFL owners money. They are the ones deciding what their teams can and can’t do, not Goodell. He doesn’t have power over them. Owners right now have no idea what to do because their meal ticket, the fans, are pissed off and are starting to boycott. They also don’t want a war with the players. This is now a social issue and they are walking on egg shells.

      The problem I have with the NFL brand and not just the commissioner, is they are too much about money and not the quality of the game. The quality of the game is the entertainment value of the sport. All the other excess crap is a fad.

      • mf13ss says:

        Consider me WITH you regarding this post as well, as it pertains to the greedy $$$ and the now watered-down quality of the game we’re seeing.

        I LOVE this game called football (the NFL version, particularly), but this Titanic is getting sunk from bad decisions made from within… at least in my view.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      The constitution being applicable to private business is basically the least libertarian thing you can advocate for. I find myself wide-eyed at the complete 180 I see conservatives do in the last year.

      The intent of the constitution is to limit government interference in individual rights and that shouldn’t be disturbed, its the foundation of what we are a great country

      anything the constitution prohibits can be prohibited through separate federal or state or local legislation – so the type of federal legislation you mention can be pursued, without disrupting our foundation principles

      but you are going to get a lot of push back from Reagan Deregulation Republicans on any legislation over the private sector

      but if you are suggesting that American corporations should be guided by those principles, well I make that argument all the time and I agree.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        as an example of a constitutional principle being the source of federal legislation take a look at the 14th amendment vs the Civil rights act of 1964 which adopts the ideas in the equal protection clause and applies it to the private sector

      • Tim Knight says:

        Deregulation Republicans and Tax and Spend Democrats is the conundrum. You hope for balance and individual rights but that’s not what happens. It always goes back to money and favors. That’s why term limits is such a big issue with we the people. We allow our government to become a business. It should not be. It should be a service of the people by the people. Not a fucking profit and subsidizing institution.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I like to be pragmatic rather than idealistic Tim

        But I’m just saying, regulation of business is very un-libertarian

  41. Phindog says:

    What did you and the Cool Toba wife find? I won’t laugh at you if you wear your black socks and shoes to the beach. The boardwalk has everything you need. plus we run into town and grab some groceries at publix as well. And there is a pool with a BBQ that we take advantage of. Unfortunately there are no iguanas 🤓

  42. Phindog says:

    If La Quinta got damaged have checked and seen if D&B is hosed as well ?

  43. Phindog says:

    You ^^^^

  44. mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    September 26, 2017 at 9:00 pm
    …but if you are suggesting that American corporations should be guided by those principles, well I make that argument all the time and I agree.
    INDEED! We concur on this, but I do NOT advocate for UNIONS to get involved (they are the ‘money changers’ who re-appropriate their funds into political campaign funding… should be ILLEGAL).

    I find it OFFENSIVE that businesses can treat their employees like 2nd-rate citizens while we have a Constitution and Bill of Rights PROTECTING us from as much. Why is it that BIZ can usurp the Constitution and Bill of Rights?

    I’m 100% with ya, my porcine friend.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Well slow down….😝

      I just think morally I would like to see corporations apply out basic principles like the 1st amendment but I do have some libertarian principles in terms of limiting the gov’t

      I agree that corruption in unions is no secret but I would rather have a private organization protecting Employees rights than the gov’t. So you trust the gov’t that much?

      I kind of like he management vs labor dynamic

      In the case of the NFL, the players union got duped
      But it would be nice to see the NFL not exploit it so much and think about the long term benefit of the game rather than immediate profits

  45. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    September 26, 2017 at 9:11 pm
    …That’s why term limits is such a big issue with we the people. We allow our government to become a business. It should not be. It should be a service of the people by the people. Not a fucking profit and subsidizing institution.
    HELL YEAH!!!

  46. son of a son of a shula says:

    I booked a room right near where Phindog is staying. It’s the Sun Beach inn.

    You stay at Neptunes right?

  47. Phindog says:

    Why do you think we stay there. Just a bit of advise.. They hate it when I break out a roll of quarters 😆

  48. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, a lot of regulation are worker’s rights, environment and “fair” pay. That’s not going away anytime soon even if people don’t understand economics. Republicans are more pro business and Democrats are more pro employee. There needs to be a better middle ground. But those who want to see free market capitalism go away and become more socialist is the battle, and is anti-American in theory. Always has been. You can’t make socialist ideologies prominent and still stand for individual freedom. They don’t mix.

    • mf13ss says:

      Here, here! And China is now using a form of pseudo-capitalism, trying to make it work with socialism. Their people are now all kinds of confused.

      Strange fact? Christianity is now growing BIG TIME in communist China. I can’t correlate one to the other, but it’s just a very strange fact.

    • Phindog says:

      You do realize regulations is what caused company’s to pack up and go overseas for profit . . Deregulation to an extent brings jobs back . I agree with you that you can’t have it both ways. The middle ground is a tough reach. Are American jobs more valuable than deregulation? Yes but to what extent ? I’m in the mindset that most regulations were put in place to assist global trade overseas to pad the pockets of the rich ceo’s and share holders here in America. Regardless of the consequences of shutting down factories in the United States.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I think you are right Phindog

        But it’s hard to control compete in with deregulation in the workplace with countries like China and India with our flat out being immoral nbyerms of basic workers rights. Their work conditions are shit.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Another way to look at free market capitalism is the consumer, not the worker. The market sets the price for both. If it’s not reasonable to the consumer, that company or industry won’t exist. The biggest problem to me is not the ideology of free market capitalism, it’s human behavior trying to get every penny they can at any cost. That’s when people become socialist. They see a lack of fairness because of greed.

        It’s still on We the People. We control all of it. But we tend to let it be. I feel the debate is off course because most people don’t like change.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t see socialism at odds with individual freedom but I get that point of view

      I don’t want socialism FWIW but I do think the elimination of gov’t is absurd
      I want some classic liberal things like a public option and a regulated work place

      I also think we are on the verge of a major financial crisis based on college tuition and student debt and I think government action and legislation would prevent that (which I think is a liberal theory) but it ends up being a political argument and the pragmatism goes out the window

      In 08 when the economy shit itself it was lack of legislation, specifically real estate lending, that did us all in

      • Tim Knight says:

        “I don’t see socialism at odds with individual freedom but I get that point of view”

        That’s kind of contradictory. If the state is bigger than the individual which is what socialism is, they can’t co-exist in harmony. They are polar opposites. That’s why the USA is referred to as “the land of the free.” It’s a different place than other places around the world. You don’t come here for handouts, you come here for opportunity. If you were lucky to have been born here, your worst days are better than much of the world.

        Yeah let’s change that and make it like everywhere else. I really don’t get what people are thinking when it comes to our nation and its ideology.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Bc government spending doesn’t affect your freedoms just your pocketbook
        Socialism style spending on govnemrnt programs has nothing to do with individual freedom

        Do t get me wrong – I don’t want to be taxed more and spend more

        But that just me being greedy
        It doesn’t affect my individual freedom

  49. Tim Knight says:

    Until We the People stop supporting and voting for the status quo, nothing will change. We do have that power. We don’t use it. Perot got close years ago but no cigar, Trump pulled it off but he annoys everyone, even some of his own supporters. It’s not all about the president though. It’s about every level of government. We the People have that power. It’s on us. Just do it!

    • steveccnv says:

      Too many people have their priorities screwed up, they care more about what Trump says on Tweeter, than what he’s trying to clean up. If these same people had a business and McCain and Clinton worked for them and did the same shit they’ve been doing in their business…

      • steveccnv says:

        They’d fire them and prosecute, but for some reason its ok for all these swampers to do it in DC. I don’t get it.

  50. mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    September 26, 2017 at 9:40 pm
    A Star Wars party would be awesome
    The UK already has one, if ya didn’t already know! Last I knew, they had 30,000 members. I think it was called the “Jedi Party”.

  51. mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    September 26, 2017 at 9:48 pm
    …I also think we are on the verge of a major financial crisis based on college tuition and student debt…
    Quite correct and agreed… unless President Trump can quickly offset the misgivings of his predecessors (note the plural: GWB & BHO) by adding jobs via deregulation (ie: 35% CGT set by Obama… that’s why the jobs left America).

    Indeed, Pig… we’re on the cusp of another major financial crisis if things don’t change.

  52. CavalierKong says:

    I am seriously in the minority, but I thought the new version of IT sucked. I think the 90’s version was waaay better, campy, corny, horrible acting, and all. The new version changed the story way too much and it was extremely disjointed. The kid actors were fantastic (Finn Wolfhard was great as Ritchie), but the story didn’t work for me. How do you not have the dam building scenes or the barrens? I must be crazy or old, but I am seriously flabbergasted at the praise being heaped upon it.

    • mf13ss says:

      THANK YOU for your review, Kong! IMO, I’m not sure how one could ever beat the OG TV movie… it’s near and dear to my heart.

      Know what else? The background *MUSIC* in the OG TV movie was pretty much unbeatable. It was very solemn, curious, HAUNTING, and set the tone for the whole movie… at least for me.

      If the background music sucks, one has lost half the battle as a producer/director of a movie. To make a great move, one must invoke ALL of the modalities. JMO!

  53. D says:

    Not sure how the president infringing on the rights of a citizen of the US was not completely constitutional. It has nothing to do with business and everything to do with the executive branch calling for individual rights to be violated, and trying to do it by using his influence over a private business to do it. How can you say that’s not him overstepping his bounds. He may not have made an executive order (which he couldn’t have without Congress approval), but that influence from his position as POTUS can be seen as coersion.

    • mf13ss says:

      It’s called 1A, my friend. It’s not coercion, it’s 1A. The President has the right to invoke his 1A rights… just as Obama publicly shamed police everywhere when he said, “THE POLICE ACTED STUPIDLY”. Or… “IF I HAD A SON, TRAVVON WOULD LOOK JUST LIKE ME”.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m not discussing that. Trump as always thinks he’s the boss of all things. But we have rules in our government that won’t allow him to go totally rogue. People are also portraying him as something he is not. Until I see a video of him being a white supremacist, I will not acknowledge it even though I’m not a fan of his. I’ve defended many pols I’m not a fan of who were wrongly accused of stuff because of bias agendas and I will continue to do that because it’s wrong. Truth doesn’t seem to matter to too many people and that’s fucked up.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        he really pushes the limits on both free speech and checks and balances imo.

        I think he is a white supremacist but I don’t really want to argue that

      • Tim Knight says:

        The far left created the white supremacy accusation and their propaganda campaign doesn’t help anyone. It’s no different than the Republicans trying to take Bill Clinton and his wife down as anti-American with accusations of chronic infidelity and murder. We’re allowing our government to be a dirty business but we take no responsibility for it blaming everyone but ourselves. Good luck with that.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I think it seriously undercuts the 1st amendment
      I think the phrase fake news does that too

      But is it a direct violation?
      I think that’s an uphill climb

      The President doing it is comeleltey absurd behavior
      He actually has a tweet on record criticizing Obama for getting involved In the NFL matters…lol

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Also D it’s not just the 1st amendment
        18 USC Code 227 is a federal statute that prohibits a federal employees ability to “influence” an private employers employment decisions

        I don’t think Trump calling kneelers “SOBs” rises to that level. Some would suggest otherwise.

        But when Huckabee said Hill committed a fireable offense – she may have (I don’t know the answer) violated this and she is facing an ethics complaint bc of it

        So you can see, it’s not a clear answer when it comes down to it and you are neither wrong nor right

  54. manitobafinfan says:

    All fixed. Booked into The Doghouse at Neptune Hollywood Beach, lotta stress as anticipated.. while cancelling La Quinta she believed she had cancelled our flights. So second call to expedia and additional 20 mins on hold to find out all good👍👍

  55. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, freedom is freedom to pursue your life as you choose as long as you don’t violate the rights of others along the way. Socialism/Communism ends that with draconian laws. No different than religions all across the world. Believe this or you are a heretic or a insubordinate. That’s not freedom. That’s people with an agenda telling you how it should be. We have a set of rules, a land of of laws, for all to follow that does not discriminate, yet some say no it isn’t. It’s not the land of laws that is the problem, it’s the actions of people who break simple laws. Don’t fucking violate the rights of others. It’s not that difficult. I’m so sick of the stupidity. People who have no idea what they are talking about rule the day. Great! WTF?!!!

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Well look
      I’m the child of Cuban immigrants and I can’t fight to defend socialism as a matter of principle – so I’m the wrong dude to discuss this with

      They will strip me of my Cafecito priveldges if I keep it up

      • Tim Knight says:

        Two friends of mine are the same as you (Cuban), they are brothers. They are left of center and that’s fine, but also have libertarian viewpoints. One thing I know, is we all want peace and to stop with the nonsense. We sat around many of fires discussing these topics for over a decade. Their parents are as friendly as you could ask for. Wonderful people.

        We either believe in freedom or we don’t. My fear is less people understand what that even means. It doesn’t mean free stuff.

    • Rhino says:

      best visual… we all live in a ‘bubble of rights’ that END when they threaten the ‘bubble of others’.
      It’s not just Rights…. it’s Rights AND Responsibilities

  56. Rhino says:

    Regarding “Socialism/Communism”… it’s best to remember that Utopias become Dystopias. That’s why Omar’s Dystopia led to Exxodus and in turn led to F’U… It’s why visions of perfection tend to lead to defection. In the meantime, those words have become dog whistles in U.S. and dystopias where ‘attempted’. Whether you are ‘religious’ or ‘other” the Golden Rule is simple and universally effective.

  57. ElephantRider says:

    Hey Kong

    I agree. IT sucked for sure. So disappointed.

    And I’ll tell you this…..if the new Blade Runner sucks I’m burning the whole thing down!

  58. wyoming85 says:

    You fuckers are killing me!!!!!
    IT is one of my all time favorite books!
    Now you say the new movie sucks as bad as the first one?
    Oh well

  59. Mike E. says:

    Disappointed to hear all the negative reviews of IT as well. I almost dragged my wife with me last Saturday, but I was too tired after eating myself into a food coma. Guess I should consider myself lucky. Or, maybe I should check it out for myself. I know a lot of people hated the Dark Tower movie, and I really liked it so . . . . I knew beforehand that they left out a couple of the main characters, and changed things around a little, but I think the movie was still very good, and had enough from the original story to make it work. I’ve heard they intend to bring the Dark Tower to TV to make a miniseries, though likely not on network TV, but on a pay channel.

  60. steveccnv says:

    Direct TV taking refunds for those protesting the protest. It’s the beginning of the fall of the NFL. The salary cap will soon decrease. Payback is a bitch.

  61. I didn’t come here to trash trump, although there is plenty if I wanted too.
    I’m a Dolphins fan, NFL fan, and don’t think presidents should try to destroy the NFL, NBA, or any sports. This is my only point at this time.
    I don’t wish to discuss politics, I only bemoan the fact he is trying to destroy his second football league, and defense of our lifestyle is required when someone try’s to take it away by force.
    I do find it discouraging that some choose trump over the Dolphins, but I won’t personally bash the ones that do.
    I believe The players earn their money, and are humans, not sons of bitches. This isn’t about disrespecting the flag, the protest was about social injustice, and unification solutions are needed instead of daily trashing.
    Have a great day everyone!

    • The Flying Pig says:

      We all probably got a little carried away with the politics here and should all try to focus on football

      • Football is why the room was started, and Dolphins football is the glue that kept everyone around for years!
        I still love the Dolphins, and won’t miss a game.
        I did cut Direct TV off a couple months ago, they raised their rates again, and Me working 7’days a week I catch Fins games online or game pass replay. I like the game pass condensed games, I can check around the league games quickly 😀

    • steveccnv says:

      You’re narrow minded to think Trump is trying to destroy the NFL. It’s the protesting that’s doing that. The players are using the NFL to get their message across and that’s wrong. You don’t shit where you eat. If any of us did what the players are doing we’d be fired.

  62. stangerx says:

    FEST — The Revenge Match

    Game is Sun, Oct 22 at one against the JETS. Seats will be $65 each for real cheap nosebleeds.

    Reserved for D&B’s in Hollywood Sat night. Will be deja vu from last year. 6-10 in the pool table private area. Same food and drinks are on you.

    Chef Warren tailgate as always.

    PhinDog +2 (plane and hotel done)
    Mike E +1 (plane and hotel done)
    Son +1 (hotel done)
    Chef Warren +1 (will be there before you)
    Stanger + 2
    Toba +1 (plane and hotel done)
    OD (+1?)….sitting with the crew.
    Brian in NY + son for his first game (in OD’s seats)
    Ken (not 100% sure but in for ticket)
    Krishna +1 (has own seats)


    Now is last chance to either get in, add an extra plus or back out……time to buy the tickets.

    La Quinta is out…but everyone so far is setting up in a small area around Hollywood Beach. You guys can blow it out Fri Nite and everyone gets to walk home.

  63. The Flying Pig says:

    The real John Snow and the real Igrit Just got really engaged

    He really does know nothing

  64. stangerx says:

    Interesting from Mando….including who the Boss man is back in Davie now.
    “Before he went AWOL, Timmons was almost certain to be on the team next year….Now?…the Dolphins can cut him without the same significant cap hit. It would now cost the Dolphins approximately $2.75 million to cut Timmons next year. Before he went AWOL it would have cost them approximately $7.25 million in dead money to cut him.

    Mike Tannenbaum led the entire Timmons recovery saga once the Dolphins returned from the West Coast after beating Los Angeles. But Tuesday when the decision was made to reinstate Timmons, Tannenbaum carried the final decision to Gase.”

  65. Mike, I saw IT on IMAX when IT came out. It’s too predictable and boring, but the graphics are more intense!
    Predictably good movie, far from great IMO

  66. Everyone’s thoughts on Timmons playing? I think help in the middle for sure, we need a W Sunday!

  67. Mike E. says:


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