Earthlings have a petty low opinion of me. And why Shouldn’t they – I travel the galaxy and eliminate lifeforms. But I’m not that bad. In fact, I love being generous. I love to give back to the Universe!
I love the little tadpoles, the baby slimes and tiniest lifeforms. I’m talking about alien children of course! The smiles on their faces when you give them a gift. It’s heart warming! Nothing like it! Here you go little guy (Wedge hands a baby slime a gift) It’s a jack in the box! Wind it up for a surprise…
Doesn’t that just get you! There is nothing like it….well maybe something…I think its a lot like watching some of the electric runs in the SEC this year. I already talked about Nick Chubb with you but what about his teammate – Sony Michel.
The Positives: Georgia’s other running back might just be the second overall running back selected in the 2018 draft after Barkley. He’s not as big as Chubb – but he’s explosive. At 5’11, 212 pounds the South Florida product ran for 3,613 career rushing yards for the Bulldogs.
Michel’s resume at Georgia was filled with plenty of big runs. He is a former track star and expected to run somewhere around the 4.45 range when he runs at the combine. We will see how he does – but you can see his blazing runs on tape. But more than anything he is quick – really quick! He can stop on a dime, accelerate and change direction faster than he defender causing a lot of defenders to look silly!
Michel also contributed to the passing game at Georgia. He had 64 career catches for 621 yards. So he is a versatile back that will fit really well in Adam Gase’s offense.
The Negatives: Frankly, I don’t see a lot of negatives. The guy can run. He has had a history of injuries from High School to College including a torn ACL, a broken left forearm, and a left knee injury which took him out of the 2017 SEC Championship game. But if you watched the NCAA championship game you saw him at full speed, so it’s nothing to worry about.
He’s also not stellar in pass protection – but honestly you kind of expect some of these elite college rushers to need to work on that in the pros. In College and High School, coaches tend to want the ball in their hands when they are on the field.
If the Dolphins are looking for a power runner to pair with Drake – he is not the guy. But I suspect the Dolphins value versatility more than anything else.
The Alien Dust: I really love this running back. In fact, I pretty much love all the SEC running backs coming out.
A player like Michel, who split carries with Chubb has a lot left to contribute to the NFL. The power tandems in the SEC really should be an asset in the NFL. These guys don’t have a lot of wear and tear on their body.
It also should not go unnoticed that Michel is from Plantation and went to American Heritage High School, which is jus around the corner from Davie.
I wonder if Michel is already a Dolphin fan.
Michel is like an exploding gift box that some stupid baby slime thinks is a jack in the box….He will destroy the entire planet before you blink!
Oh….you didn’t think I was serious about that generous stuff did you?
You can watch his highlights here!
Finsmob Unleashed 
and Marino saying “you still couldn’t carry my jock strap”
+100000000000000000000000000
Last year, while waiting in the meet and greet lines, i spoke with a guy who has been doing Senior Bowl week (the full 9, practices, meet and greet, all the other players events, etc.) for like 37 years. He got to meet Marino his year, and the thought of that just floored me. I mean i know he wouldnt have been known to become a Miami Dolphin at that time, or that he would be the legend he was but i cant even fathom what it would have been like to be meeting him face to face like i have some of the other players i have known to go on and do big things in the NFL. I hope i get a chance some day to meet a guy there that winds up being half as big of a deal for us as Marino was.
Running backs seem to almost naturally go a round later than their talent suggests. I think Penny could be a 3rd or 4th, he is in that grouping where they might even be borderline 2nd in other year, but recently everyone have been clumping up and teams have been selecting those guys 3-5th. I dont see him dropping to the 5th, but 4th is a real possibility.
Do young people NOT go home at 5PM? My son is 22, he goes home at 5PM . . .
some go home at 3pm
I go home at 6-630, might just be a lazy thing 🙂
Besides, is it really work to give hand service all day?
Bills pick 21 and 22 and they’re moving up for Allen.
If they want to move up past us they are going to have to give up a next years first. 21 and 22 by itself wont do it.
well, we’re not taking him in the first place and I think a team with a top ten pick would be willing to take 21 and 22 for the move up. maybe they get another pick with it but it’s not going to be another 1st. I could see a 4th at most
We should be able to wait on a RB and get one on day three. It seems to be a deep class. Also having Drake as the lead back we’re not in desperate need of one early. Unless what we want to do on offense is going to be heavily focused on RBs, then maybe we take one a little earlier if we think one of them is much better than a lot of the rest of the class.
I agree, and probably the only one that would make me feel differently would be if something retarded happens and Barkley drops to us.
There are several backs i think that could be really good, possibly better as pro’s than they were in college and they are likely 4-6. The RB class is pretty deep, not very top heavy, but big bellied, with most the talent between 3rd and 6th, in fact i see a lot of the 2nd round slotted guy pretty much on the same level as a lot of the ones slotted for the 3rd. We dont have to go early with the RB, unless we get a gift dropped in our laps, and then its not about drafting a Rb early its about taking BPA.
We have two 4s so maybe that would be a round to go RB. If we could get OL, TE, LB, QB and RB with our first 5 picks that would be good.
Jordan Scarlett is a guy who finished on suspension at UF, but he has some good running ability, he has a 5th-6th round grade right now, but were it not for the suspension probably would have been a 3rd-4th rounder. Bo Scarborough also is a guy who likely is a value pick, having an off year for Bama. I have seen Kalen Ballgag mentioned a bit here, he’s a 5-6th rounder. Petteway is probably a 5-6th rounder. Ralph Webb will probably be a 5-6th rounder, though i could see him squeaking into the 4th. John Kelly is probably going to be 5-6th.I think he went back to school, but L.J. Scott was a guy i was really hoping would declare because he would have been a middle rounder with a lot of upside.
Is there really a guy with the last name Ballgag? How did he survive childhood? LOL
Ballage, when i see his name i keep seeing Ballgag
D – If I did that, that would part of the oldest profession around. I’m an eye guy, the hand is just a fable.
The best relationship I’ve ever had was with Mary Palm and her five sisters. They don’t talk back and they don’t ask for money.
All this running back talk you wouldn’t know we had a future hall of famer 3000 yard per season GOAT in Drake! WTF??
Gotta be prepared for injury, but i’m glad you are coming around to Drake’s potential. Might help you get over that loser you keep crying over 🙂
who? that loser that’s going to the superbowl?
Yeah everyone can get dragged places…. Again, im just yanking your chain lol
Drake, Perry and Smith are the only backs on the roster for next season. Perry is mainly a STs depth guy and Smith is a UDFA and probably limited back. I’d like to see us re-sign Williams and draft a back who’s better than Perry and Smith.
who needs to run anyway? let’s just get fast wr’s and throw it deep every play
Now you’re being silly. 😉
You have to wonder what Gase feels about Drake, Wasn’t Drake behind Williams when Ajayi left?
Not to start with, he had him as the starter, but he fumbled and Gase put Williams in and Williams played well so he left him in until he got injured, then Drake got a second chance and kept it through good performances.
He wanted to rotate the two of them and then Williams went down before it really got going. Gase said he still wants a committee approach.
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williams is baby step pitter patter man, Drake is a all or nothing guy, if they’re so great why was Ajayi starting ahead of them?
we need a solid RB from the draft or FA.
Drake lead all RBs in rushing once he became the main man. I’m not sure what you were watching but he did more than just a big run per game.
Oh hell. We gotta draft Ballgag. I’m all in.
I’m thinking we make a run at CJ Anderson, the Broncos may release him with no dead money, at 5’8″ 225 lbs he’s what the doctor ordered!
this also helps us in a need position so we can draft BPA
Why would they release him, he had a good season on a bad offense with no QB?
Tim,
If we stick with Tannehill at QB, then we need a really solid team around him and probably a top 5 defense tohave a legitimate shot at championships. We are not even close to having that sort of overall team or defense. So, how many years will it take us to build that sort of team and/or defense? I don’t think that happens in a year….probably not even two. There’s a lot of building to do.
I don’t agree but that’s okay. 🙂
If we’re going to be championship team, we’ll have to have somewhere near a top 5 defense with any QB, not just Tannehill. You don’t see many one dimensional teams win SB’s.
You don’t have to be top 5 in defense to win.
Drake got stuffed at the LOS too often for my liking, put us in long down and distance, they didn’t use him all that much either, i think he had 12 touches in the buffalo game
He had the same issues Ajayi had with inconsistent and sub par OL play. When the offense doesn’t score in the 1st half and falls behind, the running game becomes less of an option.
Ajayi got stuffed behind the LOS too much, that’s part of the reason why we shipped him to Philly
i doubt that’s an accurate statement, he was a pro bowler in 2016 and he didn’t get the chance in 2017
Tim Knight says:
January 23, 2018 at 5:53 pm
Why would they release him, he had a good season on a bad offense with no QB?
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they may take Barkely at 5, they also can dump him and not pay the 4.5 owed to him, they may also trade him to us as Gase tried to get him here last year.
That’s not a lot of money for a proven RB. They matched the offer we made to Anderson in 2016, why would they now get rid of him or trade him to us?
If the Broncos utilize Booker and Henderson in their running game, benefit from the salary cap and pick up a 4th rnd draft pick
Not to mention we got the Denver RBs coach in Miami, Denver matched an offer sheet last year that Miami had signed him.
It very well could be in the plans
So this is what I hear.
First, the Browns will take Rudolph because Kizer sucks really bad.
Darnold is going to the Giants at #2
Indy will grab Saquon at #3.
@#5, Denver wants Rosen (or slim possibility Allen, depending on stuff).
and the jests like Mayfield @#6
So that leaves the Bills Lamar Jackson. But they already have him in Tyrod,
so that is why they will be trying to move up to Ceveland’s 4th pick to get whoever’s left of the top 3.
Tampa Bay will take Chubb @#7, a really good blend of BPA and need for them.
For #8, The Bears will take WR James Washington.
49ers need CB Joshua Jackson pick 9.
@#10, sorry folks, but da Raiduhz need an ILB very badly. Roquan is theirs.
Point being, Nelson is ours at #11. Or Guice, or Minkah, or Derwin James, or Okoronkwo or Davenport, or omg just about anybody we want.
This is like the Laremy Tunsil year, where we can hardly go wrong, because of what will happen before us. Even if two of those 6 men are gone, we will still have a niiiiice selection of gems to pick from.
Browns fuck up again
No way Rudolph is drafted that high
Doesn’t matter.
Rotate them any way you want, the QBs’ll soak up 4-6 picks and throw in Barkley and DE Chubb and all of that will push down a really high quality player to us @ 11.
Tim
Patriots and Eagles are both Top 5 scoring defense (PTS allowed). It’s the case most times
Because they were two of the highest scoring offenses making teams one dimensional. That’s the part we need to fix. Our defense had little support all year and many games were there for the taking and the offense still could not get it done. We had 11 games scoring 20 pts or less. That’s friggin horrible.
Well sure, having a good offense makes your defense better, but there are still some teams with great offenses that have bad defenses. Saints come to mind, not as bad this year, but in years past. Packers too.
give that 4th we got from Philly to Denver for Anderson
we’re trading our #11 to Philly for their first rounder so they can pick Nelson.
you want a good Defense?
A= take the ball out of the opposing Offenses hands, win TOP and build the defensive moral with a strong Running Game.
Jaguars did that to the Patriots and LOST.
considering where we are now??? i’ll take it!
Yeah, it’s not just one formula to win though. Of course winning TOP is a good start, but I remember losing to Manning and the Colts on MNF years ago, we had the ball for like45 minutes, and we lost.
I agree and just said as much to Mike.
I disagree. Tannehill is a 6 year veteran. We know what he is. He is not going to start throwing 30+ TDs. So, you either figure out a way to get a lot more production from your running game, or you build a really good defense because you aren’t going to out score people. That isn’t going to happen overnight.
Teams change overnight all the time. 3 of the teams in the championship games weren’t in the playoffs the year before.
Rob – It was pretty accurate, I watched the games, I’m sure you did too. You can’t deny there were plenty of runs where Ajayi tried to bounce it outside, and got taken down for a loss.
yes he did, but 4 of those games he controlled the LOS and we won, the other three he wasn’t given the chance maybe due to circumstances, i would have to watch the hole season, not 7 games to give an opinion like that.
he was the best RB on our roster
I highly doubt that he was traded for lack of production or effort, he was traded because he was a distraction yelling at the coaches to give him the ball.
Tim,
Not that big a turn around. Lol
I don’t know what this means?
The Jags were 3-13 last year and went to the AFC Championship with the same QB.
The Eagles were 7-9 and last in their division last year; now they’re in the Super Bowl.
The Rams were 4-12 last year, and they made the playoffs this year.
I’m just really stoked about our prospects for this draft.
It’s not like last year.
Picking in the 20s means you lose a shot at TWICE as many guys as picking @11, EVERY round!
don’t get too excited. we’re picking 31st this year after we trade with the Eagles so they can get Nelson
Ken says:
January 23, 2018 at 6:04 pm
No way Rudolph is drafted that high
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Ken is right. That fucking nose is annoying!!
Tim Knight says:
January 23, 2018 at 5:46 pm
Drake lead all RBs in rushing once he became the main man. I’m not sure what you were watching but he did more than just a big run per game.
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LOL. Tim keeps this reply in the margins so he can copy and paste when needed.
LOL, I keep coming across that statement in articles by the Miami beat reporters. I didn’t actually know this stat until I read it.
Not sure why ORob keeps trying to diminish Drake. He should be excited as a fan. Drake showed me he’s better than I thought he was.
I’ll see you guys later I have to go iron my Ajayi jersey
LOL – Extra starch!
I was going to do that but I’m tired so I just put on my Ajayi pj’s instead.
No Ajayi “Depends”, or are those your PJ’s. lol
I haven’t looked for the Depends. Good idea.
Tim
Atlanta last year was awful defensively, but their offense was waaaaay ahead of every other team, but that’s an anomaly.
Jesus. Now I have to Google “anomaly”. I can’t even pronounce the damn word.
Randy says:
January 23, 2018 at 6:09 pm
I disagree. Tannehill is a 6 year veteran. We know what he is. He is not going to start throwing 30+ TDs…
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How DARE you say that! LOL 🙂
I object!!!
Ryan threw 27 TDs in 2014.
I think he could throw 30-32 with Drake being a really good receiver.
Especially if we get a top quality TE and another pass catcher out of the backfield.
I know that’s asking a lot, but it’s not impossible.
Jesus, you guys are delusional. The Jags and Eagles both had really, really good defenses last year. It was not a huge turn around gif them. They didn’t need their offenses to take big steps because their defenses were already good.
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Have a good one.
I’m with ya 100%, my friend. I stand with you.
Our defense is very new and has not played a lot of games together. The building on defense has already begun. But I forgot, young players already on the team never get better, only the new crop of rookies. LOL
when you look at our D and that of the Jags there is no comparison. the two are on opposite ends of the spectrum.
At this time, yes. But I like a lot of what we have on defense now moving forward. JAX also added a highly paid DT in Dareus like we have in Suh.
do you realize they signed Campbell AND Dareus and still have more cap space than we do?
By the way I don’t agree on opposite ends of the spectrum. Their offense was much better than ours this year which helps a defense tremendously. Our defense is not built to shut teams down all day, they’re built to play in competitive games or with leads to attack. The offense let this team down and Gase knows that and we’re seeing changes on that side of the ball now in both coaching and personnel. We’ll see. I think we can be a good team in 2018. Better than in 2016.
Josh Allen has electrolytes
Its what the body needs….errrr wait….
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Yup, this is the play that the amateurs were buzzing about, so as to diss Penny.
Holy SHIT, where was the interior O-Line on this ONE given play? And had this been a pass play, God help the QB.
Combined, the cap hit of Campbell and Dareus don’t equal the cap hit of Suh to the Phins
Tim,
there’s one thing you’re leaving out when you’re comparing us to teams like the Jags. We don’t have anyone in our front office even close to Tom Coughlin. Tannenbaum’s comp is Eddie Arcadian.
They spent a ton of money on defense recently and they have $15M more in cap because Bortles is on his first contract.
Lou, I’m not looking for an ongoing Jags vs. us debate. I think there is promise with our defense in 2018 and the offense will be better. That’s not going to be that hard to do. LOL
me neither. I just had to make the Eddie Arcadian comparison. lol
why can’t I copy and past images on here anymore?
cuz you’re a douche.
yeah I know but why can’t I do it?
I don’t think that was ever possible
If you want to post an image you copy the link to the image and the link should end with “jpeg”
I used to be able to copy an image from Twitter and paste it here. It doesn’t work anymore.
You can still do that
You can’t copy the photo along
You have to copy the entire tweet
That’s not new
With all due respect to you, I can’t figure out why some on hee are acting like Miami is in a shambles. We went to the playoffs and won 10 games just last year.
Sure we only won 6 this year, but that was without a bye, lost our starting QB and blah blah a bunch of very strange and unique shit happened.
I bet we will NOT lose our bye week in 2018. Etc. Etc blah blah will NOT all happen to us again.
We do too have a bunch of good players and a few great ones. And Gase was indeed the most sought after hot new young coach when we got him.
Tannehill has thrown for 4000 yards twice and close to it at least one other time. Etc etc.
We are NOT the Browns, Giants, jests, Colts etc. or even the Bucs or Bengals. Those are hot-mess dumpster fires. We have a much better talent base than any of those teams.
Plus we have a goodish lowish draft number and 5 picks in the top 4 rounds.
I dont see the team as in shambles, we need to add talent in the draft and probably get a couple of FA moves (could even be re-signs) to work out for us. We got kneed in the nuts to start the season, shit didnt really get any easier and we ended up 6-10. We didnt play well, we have a lot to “clean” up but we can bounce back from this year. Its definitely not a train wreck situation.
I don’t think we are in shambles either
I think we are ripe to make 2017 look like he liverworst in our sandwich with delicious playoff bread
Teams go up and down all the time
But there isn’t a lot of room for mistakes
When we consistently make it to the playoffs then we’ll talk. When you make it to the playoffs one year and then not only miss them the next year but also only win 6 games that screams issues and inconsistency.
When you’re filling your roster with starters who are stop gap one year guys like Bushrod, Thomas, Timmons, Maualuga, Mario and are trading for players like Kiko and Maxwell you’re a hot mess. You’re not building a team. You’re trying to win now and all you’re doing is screwing up the franchise and the cap situation.
Like I stated above, the cap hit of BOTH Dareus and Campbell to the Jags doesn’t equal what our cap his with Suh alone. The Jags don’t have a single player taking up 10% or more of it’s cap and we’ve got 2. The Eagles have none. Our cap is completely out of whack.
That’s how I view it. The team still has to go out and prove it, but I’m more optimistic this season than I was last year. Too much shit went down and it started with Tannehill, Lippett, McMillan, Urbik and Larsen. Right out of the gate we lost these guys before the season started. We knew the deal with McDonald. It was a clusterfuck season to say the least.
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming (B+)
Round 2 Pick 10: Billy Price, C/OG, Ohio State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 9: Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State (A)
Round 4 Pick 11: Frank Ragnow, C/OG, Arkansas (A)
Round 4 Pick 30: Jaylen Samuels, RB/WR, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 12 (G.B.): Christian Sam, ILB, Arizona State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 14 (WASH): Javon Wims, WR, Georgia (A+)
Round 7 Pick 14 (G.B.): John Atkins, DT, Georgia (A+)
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Wanted to see if i could make the draft turn out ok if i forced the Allen pick at 11.
Does Sam play the Mike, or the Sam?
Sam can be Mike or Sam, he has split personality disorder.
Honestly, I’d be pretty stoked with those first 3 picks. Giddy even
I know 1, 2, 3 and 4b., I like that draft. I don’t think Samuels will fall that far though. I see him no later than the 3rd in a pass happy league.
In yards, the jags were 6th and the eagles were 13th
We were 16th in yards in 17
in 2016 the jags were 24th and the eagles were 12th
In 2017 we were 28th in points
I do think we can make significant improvement if we were devoted to changing the defense this offseason – but it’s hard to do that it with All other needs
The Saints are an interesting team to look
They made a huge jump defensively in one season
They nailed their first rounder (lattimore) with the – brace yourself – the 11th pick of the 2017 draft
They also took a now notorious DB in the 3rd round who played well for them except for the last few seconds of their season
Safety
Dance!
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(Piggy breaks out in 80s dancing)
Im glad you did, otherwise you would be no friend of mine.
LOL @ you guys doing this ‘Draft pick’ thing that y’all do! 🤣
sometimes I do the ass pick thing as well.
LOL, but YOU have YOUR own grades. That’s commendable, Bro.
yep. I can ass pick with the best of them.
sorta like you doing your “GM” thing.
See my reply to Prof Lou above. I like y’all that have your OWN eyes and your OWN grades! Props to y’all!
Someone needs to convince me of the value of Jaylen Samuels.
He looks like the classic tweener with no natural position and a 2-3 year weak bust.
Some mock draft had him to us as a TE. I will be furious if that’s how we go about filling our much needed TE position
I took Goedert as our TE pick.
I drafted Samuels as a RB/FB
me too … we need a REAL TE or a REAL RB and we only need a REAL WR if Jarvis walks. This guy Samuels is too short for TE, too slow for WR and too stiff for RB.
No thanks.
Not you silly!
Watch his tape and you will see, he is a bit of a tweener. Tweener is only bad if you dont do either of them well, like a jack of all trades master of none. Samuels is good enough to be good at both, and he could replace Gray as a FB/RB with a lot better receiving ability. He is versatile, and to be honest, im not in love with him as a pick as some others here are, but at that round, the value just was too much to pass up. I actually passed on Scarborough with that pick and took Samuels simply because there was better value there.
and btw thanks for inspiring me to do just that MF.
I can’t match your work ethic, and i am not hooked into the twitterverse,
but i do scout college ball all season and you’re my role model for trying to find the right guys.
Bro, I think you’re doing GREAT! And YES, you’ve made me look at cats that you’ve suggested as well. For that, I THANK YOU! 🙂
mf13ss says:
January 23, 2018 at 7:29 pm
See my reply to Prof Lou above. I like y’all that have your OWN eyes and your OWN grades! Props to y’all!
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Dude, you really need to give it a break. You are not god’s gift to draft rating. Most of us that post those mocks from other sites are as adept at having our own rankings as you or the site we did it from. That site just gives us an app we can use to let the draft play out where we have real world scenarios of oh i didn’t get the guy i like because someone else liked him too and took him. Its a simulation and you have been just as guilty of posting them as anyone. So why the fuck do you randomly just pull that shit? Out of the blue a fucking sideways comment that’s just mean spirited, from you, the “one love” guy. This is not the first time you have pulled this shit with me, and id really like it if a cut it the fuck out.
Wims is a 6’3 WR, would be insurance for us if Parker doesnt pan out and give us the ability to get another big body in there in the red zone packages.
Sam is an ILB who, has good speed though might be a little raw, but he would be an upgrade over some of the guys we have as rotational players.
Atkins was extremely good value at that point in the draft, we dont necessarily need DT but you do want to keep adding talent there and he could turn out to be better than Taylor i think.
I don’t know where this reply comes from, other than being mean-spirited.
The ONLY thing I ask is that WE use our OWN eyes, instead of relying on the eyes of others. I think YOU have INCREDIBLE eyes on talent, my Brother!
I’m but one, we’re but two, but TOGETHER, we’re INCREDIBLE! I’m sorry that you feel the way you do, man.
I’m going to make more mistakes than most being I put a LOT out there. Take me for what I’m worth, my friend. I’m in NO way trying to disrespect ANYONE… I just REALLY like it when one puts their OWN takes out there, instead of parroting mainstream takes.
I put my own takes out there all the time, and so far you have called me out for using other people takes on things instead of my own, so if you feel i do a great job, how about not saying shit like that.
Naples, Samuels to me is a RB/FB/ H-back you can line up in a lot of different formations. He’s a swiss army knife. He’s an offensive weapon.
D – I actually love the Ragnow pick too. Make it first 4 picks
D, I like Drake, Williams, Samuels and Gray on offense for us. You can cover a lot of options on offense cheap with these guys. We need a true TE with upside and that can help us in both the run and pass game.
Yeah i like the tweener moniker as long as it means versatile and not limited.
To me Samuels is like morphing Charles Clay, Damien Williams and Devonta Freeman together.
OMG Tim I think that is overrating the boy 150%.
Clay has serious talent and Freeman is da bomb.
Samuels WISHES he could be even most of one of those guys.
notice how he just disses Williams. lol
I don’t fear Charles Clay when we play Buffalo.
Clay is a possession guy. He’s not a seam buster or a major scoring threat. You can find guys who will give you that production in this draft.
“We also need a true TE …”
D says:
January 23, 2018 at 7:47 pm
I put my own takes out there all the time, and so far you have called me out for using other people takes on things instead of my own, so if you feel i do a great job, how about not saying shit like that.
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You’ve got me confused. I’m not sure I’ve called you out on ANYTHING, D. If you could give me an example, I’d be more than happy to explain… and it probably had NOTHING to do about YOU, man.
Naples, I like Samuels and his tape shows me he can do a lot lined up as a tailback, FB/H-back, TE and split wide. I’m going by what I see.
Clay 6th rd pick, Freeman 4th and Williams UDFA. I’m not comparing him to Bo Jackson. LOL
K man. I’ll go rewatch, but NC State is my back yard.
But I trust you. I’ll go see if i can see what you see.
He runs a 4.7 40.
He’s not a burner. He’s a tough move the chains guy.
Lou
You can find superstars in every draft, too.
Just because you think you see a similar player in a draft class
does not negate the value of the NFL player.
Besides,
I never said i want to re-up the now injury-depleted Clay. I certainly want to draft fresh legs at TE.
Although I must say that the way Tyrod plays cancels out Clay’s value the same way it did Sammy Watkins’s. Give Clay to Phillip Rivers, for example, and he scores 10 TDs a year.
If Clay is used inside the 10 a lot he can maybe score 10td’s on short passes. But, he’s not the type of guy who’s going to kill your defense even with a qb like Rivers.
and, yes, you can find superstars in every draft. agreed.
D and M13, Mike has the robes and apple martinis coming your way for the hot tub. 🙂
🙂
Everybody in! I got D a looooong robe, and I got M13 a copper Penny robe. 😉
Tim,
Just so ya know, many are saying that Samuels lost a lot of stock with his Senior Bowl weigh-in… he only has 9″ hands, for example.
Man… THIS is when over-‘scrutinization’ comes in to play.
I’m with YOU that that kid is a PLAYER!
He’s not a 1st rd pick or a feature guy, but all he does is make plays.
ya know it would be nice to just fill the roster on the offensive side with guys at the skill positions who are blue collar guys instead of prima donnas. that’s what I’m looking for. guys who go out and work hard every week and just do their jobs. that’s also why I like Korey Roberston and Daesean Hamilton so much.
Lou – That’s the Patriot way!
you’re right. guys who can run great routes and gain separation just in the route they run and they’re open. all you need to do is throw them the ball. 5 to 6 yds every time you complete a pass or even more if they can get some yac.
Like Landry
yes, like Landry but you’re using a group of guys to move the ball down the field instead of throwing all your passes to just one guy. thus, you need the group and not any one guy is more important than the other.
Samuels is barely 5’11. All 4 of our starting DBs are taller than that.
TEs need to be 6’5 or 6’6 to dominate.
Samuels only weighs 220. That’s lighter than Damien Williams. How is that a FB size?
Marquis Gray weighs 263!!! Now that is a scary FB.
Samuels is not a TE in the NFL, he’s a hybrid player mostly in the passing game but can also lineup as a RB and give you some rushes. He’s not a starter or feature guy but I think he can create mismatches against base defenses. He’s savvy as a receiver and run after the catch guy.
He is also a guy who isnt predictable when he is on the field, what role you will have him play, and that is very important to modern offenses.
He does look very fluid as a runner in his highlight reel. And he definitely benefited from being lined up everywhere. Many of his plays started with the D losing him in space. i don’t think NFL D’s will care what his number is. They’ll cover him with a guy who is faster and deny him the ball. Plus he won’t get the corner as a RB on NFL LBs like he did in college.
Unless he is playing us of course.
Because modern FB’s arent always 260+ lbs. You can have a versatile FB who can hammer home a yard or two or crack back on a LB to free the RB and yet still be capable of releasing out for a pass. We are talking about old school I formation running, that very rare these days.
Clay was a FB and even though he was 4 inches taller he was only about 15lbs heavier. There is a hybrid type of FB that can give you that lead blocker, short yardage guy with flexibility to not always use him the way that a defense is expecting you to.
Serious question, do you guys view Landry as a top paid WR? I do not. I’ve already moved on that he’s not here next year. If we do pay him I wish for the best but it could be a bad move down the road.
I think his value to the team, both as a WR and a leader, is worth in the top 10 salaries, yes, but and i also think that paying him means you are making the decision that you aren’t resigning Parker, at least not to a top contract. I think the question really boils down to who would you like to keep Parker or Landry and to me that answer is Landry.
Parker is a possible UFA in 2019 with a 5th year option. He’s affordable for another season to see where he’s at. I don’t think he has anything to do with signing Landry to a mega deal..
NO
Tops for this team, yes. He deserves $13M+ if that’s what the market bears out. If he signs for less with us, great, but I’d pay him that
I wouldn’t. He should be more in the Stills range for different reasons.
you want Jarvis. here he is:
Develin FB for NE is 251. Bohannon is 247. frickin leGarrette Blount is 250. He’s from Florida by the way. So is Bohanon.
Danny Woodhead was considered a FB/RB/WR hybrid. 209, Clay as i mentioned before, Gronks brother 6’2 235, Denver’s FB is 6’1 235, 49’ers FB is 6’1 230, Zach Line the FB of the saints is 6’1 230, Bills fullback is 234. Its not as cut and dry on size with FB now because they are used differently.
I know it’s blasphemy to let Landry walk, but I’m sorry he’s being over-valued based on catches and emotion. His impact on games is not that much or we’d be a perennial playoff team since 2014.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LandJa00.htm
I think the impact he has is as much as you can get given our inept offense over the past few years. HE has produces almost 3 1k yard seasons in a row, last year almost 1k in a pretty bad situation at QB. He also gets open all the time that’s why his completion numbers are ridiculous. I really dont think we can afford to lose him, but we also can afford to keep him at anything astronomical in price. If we can get him to come down to 13mil per type numbers i think he is worth that.
70% completion rate for 10.1 YPCA, 5.5TD PY and 63.1 YPG per season. Sorry not paying him $13M per if I’m GM. Nice player with lots of intangibles, does not take over games and result in wins.
If I’m Landry, the first team that offers me 5 years $50M, jump on it.
Tim
I can’t hear what you are saying
Don’t sounds like such a jerk regarding Landry and maybe I can make some sense of it 😁
The 6’5” Allen was knocking down wide outs who weren’t accustomed to the velocity of his passes. He started to calm down and relax as the workout progressed
http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/article-1/3-Takeaways-Day-One-Of-Senior-Bowl/33976ffc-d60d-4aae-abc8-e9bcc73846b6
He has an Elway, Favre, Cutler arm.
Marino…. The receivers use to complain that Marino’s passes hurt their hands when he had to gun it into a tight window.
Marino had the best 20-35 yard arm I ever saw. But he always said 65 yards is my max. Those other guys can chuck it over 70.
The only name in FB you need to know is Flowers!!!!!!!!!!
Repeat it for me now Flowers!!!!!!!!!!!!
Flowers seems to be a good receiver, but in the NFL his speed (4.85) is going to prevent him from getting open. I think he is one of those guys that is great if your offense does a good bit of power I running, and since ours doesn’t i just dont see the fit. I agree with you though, he is probably one of the more talented true FB’s to come out of college in a while.
I heard he can play LB as well, he probably would be a good downhill thumper LB, given those skills are mirrors of the FB on offense.
I tend to think a RB like Pettway might be able to play FB
Probably not the blocker Flowers is but a better runner
Czonka 2!!!
Petteway, Scarborough, Freeman, and that Warren kid ofut of Texas who i think is 250+ with 4.6 speed. I think his running ability is raw, but you dont have to be a talented runner when your assignment is see hole run through hole lol.
That would be fun
Beating up all the lighter nfl defenses that are the norm now with a FB who smashes people
Blasphemy!
If I had my way (as of today) our draft would go like this
Round 1 – Nelson
Rounds 2-4A (TE, RB and QB) in no specific order, BPA at those positions
Rounds 4b-7b (LB, FB, TE2, OL2)
I’m recommending Skai Moore as our LB
In terms of FB, the idea of converting a Collage tailback to a FB is probably a pimple dream but I would love to see a power running attack in 2018 with a FB who can run
Crazy 🐷
I kinda am with you on doubling up on TE, and it would be a smart move especially if Fasano retires. I have been adding Breneman to some of my recent mocks for a later TE pickup but Jeb Blazevich from UGA is a really good blocking TE, and he is someone we can probably get in the 7th or as a priority UDFA. Smythe out of ND might also be available 6th or 7th, as a more blocking based TE
The best blocking TE is
David Wells
#88 TESeniorSan Diego State Aztecs
HometownClovis, CA
Height6-5
Weight255 lbs.
No, I don’t overpay for Landry. But, I prefer not to overpay for any player. I just think that’s a bad way to do business. Plus, I just simply don’t think he’s worth top dollar.
They are all a little overpaid aren’t they?
Breesesque
Landry is Davone Bess 2.0, better but that’s what he does. I’m not basing my offense around that nor am I paying him like he’s more that he is.
Come on…. He doesn’t just fall down after the catch. Lol
Lol
He’s not
I really can’t think of a different player on our roster who has earned a new contract
He’s probably our best draft pick over the last decade
Jones is probably the only other guy I can think of who’s there
We’ve pushed to keep certain players over the years like wake, Jones and now Landry bc they’ve earned it
Jake Long was one we didn’t keep that I would have liked to keep
I don’t have Bess in that class
There are a handful of these kind of players who have earned it
Drake lead the NFL in rushing last 5 weeks of season. I don’t get why he’s viewed as meh……
He’s got big play potential on every carry. He ran between the tackles just fine. He makes guys miss and runs by them. He’s exciting to watch.
Ajayi was fun to watch too. But he’s gone…..I don’t care about him anymore. If he was bitching about splitting carries then good riddance.
We’ll see what happens with Ajayi in Philly. Blount is a FA this season, so we’ll see if they go all in with Ajayi, or get another RB to compete with him. They still have Corey Clement, Donnel Pumphrey and Wendell Smallwood, but they lose the sledgehammer in Blount.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/wyoming-qb-josh-allen-passes-eyeball-test-starts-throwing-025702572.html
I truly believe the team is in full blown panic mode right now over a qb. I know Gase gives great lip service to loving Tannehill and I know a lot of fans are stuck on Tannehill but I gotta believe that they’re looking at the Jets sitting there at #6 thinking they’re definitely going qb and the Bills with their two 1st rd picks are definitely in the market for a qb and are going to trade up to get theirs.
I just think this scares the shit out of them and they don’t know how to react right now over the situation and they’re going to panic and do something stupid and go after one of these qb’s.
And don’t get me wrong. I think that out of all of them that only Rosen and Darnold project better at the next level but I think this team’s ability to overreact to a situation cannot be understated.
The market for Landry only means something if there’s teams who are close and need that one guy to put them over the top would pursue him and pay him that money. Teams with large caps will throw money at guys all the time because that’s what they do. That doesn’t mean anything. If a competitor that doesn’t have a huge amount of cap to spend would be willing to give him that kind of money then you can say that’s the market.
This is the first “out” year the Phins have on the Tannehill contract. You’ve got to wonder how much of a conversation the team is having about the fact that they can save $15M in cap space by cutting him and going in another direction.
Others would be Wake, Thomas and Timmons. They can clear upwards of high $40M in cap by making these guys expendable.
If it were me I’d do it.
I guess I’m more worried about the guaranteed on Landry’s contract more than anything. The final number doesn’t mean anything except for the guaranteed and, if I’m them, I don’t defer cap to the later years like they do in a lot of cases. Take the hit up front to get the dead cap down faster in year 3.
They tend to do that deferral thing and I hate it
But if you look at where the money is spent the next couple year they may have no choice
https://twitter.com/seniorbowl/status/956042017049542657
The Flying Pig says:
January 23, 2018 at 7:16 pm
The Saints are an interesting team to look
They made a huge jump defensively in one season
They nailed their first rounder (lattimore) with the – brace yourself – the 11th pick of the 2017 draft
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yeah but they have something we don’t,,,,,,
JEFF IRELAND!
Booooooooo
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
January 24, 2018 at 5:17 am
This is the first “out” year the Phins have on the Tannehill contract. You’ve got to wonder how much of a conversation the team is having about the fact that they can save $15M in cap space by cutting him and going in another direction.
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I think this team believes in tanny, they are more likely to restructure his ticket this year to save cap space
Even if they draft a QB high I think they cling tin tannehill, at least though 2018
It just makes sense for now
if they restructure it will certainly be longer than a year
they may trans tag Landry if they can’t cut a deal and let the market bare his worth then decide the right of 1st refusal to match. if he goes i would think we’d get a draft pick.
Only way Phins are targeting a qb is if they move up before the draft. If they stay at #11 I doubt it happens.
Only if Rosen, Darnold or Allen fall there but I don’t see that happening. I don’t see us taking any other QB there
For the AM crowd.
https://twitter.com/PhinsiderRadio/status/955833061563944960
Tim going off the freaking rails with Landry! Now he’s Davone Bess??? Ok, we get your point, you don’t want to pay him more than $8M, which is ridiculous. You say 4 years, we know what he is. Yeah, 4 years with no other WR’s, no TE, and with a deficient O-line. You’re not being fair about Landry at all, you’re over the top now.
Davonne Bess was a UDFA. Landry was a 2nd round pick. Landry in his first 4 years has more receptions than any WR in NFL history. Nuff said
Maybe Tim doesn’t want to admit how pathetic our offense is, that all we do is throw short passes to our best receiver who we will have trouble re-signing. Stills isn’t a stud, and either is Parker, so our QB, whether it was Tanny or Cutler threw the ball to the open guy, who was always Landry. It’s the way our offense was, and Tim holds Landry responsible for that. I don’t want to see him go to the Niners with Jimmy G, and have 80-100 receptions and 1200-1400 yards and 8-10 TD’s. I think that’s entirely possible.
I also think some of it was Cutler and the design of the offense. When Tannehill was QB he was getting the ball to Landry down the field more often as did Moore when he was in.
Stills and Parker are the strength of this offense and the reason why they don’t fare well, more attention is paid to them due to the lack of an effective running game.
It all comes back to smash mouth, cinderellas don’t work
Ken – I think that’s part of it, plus no faith in the O-line, and factor in no other wide receiver on our team was making teams pay attention to them or getting burnt by them. Landry was targeted 161 times, is it his fault? What are the other guys doing?
Exactly
they are being covered because the opposing D has nothing better to do
Can you elaborate? What does that mean?
Normally when you have a power running game the LBer’s have to play shallow and the safety may come up to stop the run thus putting 8 in the box, this opens the passing lanes.
without a successful pound the rock power RB LBers play deeper safety’s play deeper taking away your passing lanes.
they take away your strength and make you beat them with your weakness.
this is why we were successful in 2016 and failed miserably in 2017
Ted Ginn put up what Stills did in 6 less games for Nawlins. Michael Thomas, on the other hand, is what we hoped Devante Parker could be.
I admit I always hated taking Ginn at #9, but also felt a little sorry for him too. It wasn’t his fault he was drafted too high along with his whole family.
Alvin Kamara was basically Landry.
Mike, did you get to watch the Senior Bowl practice yesterday? I started laughing when they compared Will Hernandez to Incognito during the one-on-one drills. Just thinking he could be someone we target in the 2nd round come April.
I started watching it, not up to that yet. I just saw them interviewing Josh Allen when he was up on the podium, and then Rashaad Penny. I’ll check it out soon
Maybe it’s just me, but I think it’s so obvious. Landry operates at the LOS, and in the middle of the field. How do you get Landry more space there? Get a TE that is a threat in the middle of the field, and that can block on screens like every other team does, and all of a sudden, Landry’s 10.6 YPR becomes 12-13 YPR. That being said, Landry doesn’t have to be targeted 161 times in the future.
rgs – I wanted Brady Quinn with that pick, so we were screwed either way. lol
Me too. Lol.
IMO, a fair number for Landry is 12m, but I just don’t know if the FO and Landry fell the same way.
Here’s hoping we can keep Landry and then draft a guy like Hamilton in the middle rounds.
when i was a kid i waited all week long for Sunday morning 11 am for this show, check out the fins playing N.O.s the music was incredible, i use to walk to school the next day humming this music pretending i was a RB in slo-motion all the way to school! the neighbors thought i was touched!
After the Ajayi debate i think your are touched too 🙂
whats your excuse? are you just an idiot?
My friends and I did the same thing bro – I had one friend that as I was running in slo-mo, would lift up my shirt shoulders to mimic the way shoulder pads would move up and down. We did stuff like that all the time.
ocalarob says:
January 24, 2018 at 10:58 am
whats your excuse? are you just an idiot?
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Look OCRob, i was just messing with you, you opened yourself up for it. It was playful, i put the smiley there to show that, but you are getting your panties in a bunch every time i say something to you about Ajayi, so maybe the statement just hit too close to home. Your obsession and refusal to listen to arguments that have facts backing up their side just shows you are not a rational person or at bery least not rational about that subject, and pretty much invalidates any opinions you have.
Im sorry i picked at you, it wasn’t intended to start an argument, in fact i thought showing that we can joke about our differences might ease the tension, but again, im trying to work within the spectrum of rational thought and you aren’t there.
BTW, this is not me saying i’m going to cater to your issues and not post my opinions on things, you dont seem to have a problem posting yours. What i do want to let you know is im not going to cut you any slack, im not going to stay away from being contrary to your opinion to protect your delicate sensibilities, so you can continue to read me if ya want or you can just start skipping over it.
wyoming85 says:
January 24, 2018 at 7:43 am
Baker Mayfield – official measurements from Reese’s Senior Bowl:
Height: 6003 (6’0 3/8)
Weight: 216
Hand: 9 1/2
Arm: 30 1/2
Wingspan 30 3/8
— Reese’s Senior Bowl (@seniorbowl) January 24, 2018
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Probably more concerning for Mayfield is that his hands are only average at 9.5, Wilson has 10.25 inch hands, so are Drew Brees. To me thats more concerning than his height, though. Also i know you here, “well Drew Brees can do it at that height”, but that doesn’t help Baker Mayfield. Just because Brees can do it, doesn’t mean its not a lot more rare to have a shorter QB struggle with that disadvantage. I would be very wary of drafting him high simply because its already like taking a guy you know will have to overcome obstacles instead of getting a guy who doesn’t have to work twice as hard to do the same level job. I like the dude’s gamer attitude, but i wouldn’t risk him as a first rounder, and probably not a second rounder either.
I agree on the hand size being an important factor. Josh Allen, on the other hand, is the one that basically has perfect measureables.
rich0322 says:
January 24, 2018 at 10:34 am
IMO, a fair number for Landry is 12m, but I just don’t know if the FO and Landry fell the same way.
Here’s hoping we can keep Landry and then draft a guy like Hamilton in the middle rounds.
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I agree a fair number is 12mil, but i for sure would extend myself another mil to meet him in a compromise. You are right though, Landry’s camp might not be willing to compromise, and it might mean we dont get him, but i cannot see saying Landry is only worth what Stills is.
I agree.
Ted Ginn did what Stills did for 1/4 of the price. So is Stills worth $2M now? We can play like this all day
Landry is a perfect example why I don’t like taking WRs in the first round. I find the 2nd round to be a better value round for WRs with the NFL rules almost always favoring the offense. I like using 1st round picks on OL, DL, DB, and QB. …with the occasional stud LB.
who’s this clown D?
he’s always got something stupid to say behind his keyboard, i think the operators of this blog should censor trolls.
can’t we just all get along without insults, he’s a pussy and i hope one day i meet this clown face to face!
meanwhile i just hope he disregards my posts from now on, cant talk to a pussy!
D is a well respected contributor around here that doesn’t repeat himself ad nauseum for the sake of attention. I’ll take that any day of the week.
right on time is troll #2,
if my posts bother you maybe you should skip them
as i do yours
ORob — he even put a smiley face on his last comment. And I hope some day to meet him in person as well.
Gonna root for the Pats to go down, but a Pats win will give Gisele another card to play.
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“Last spring Brady and his family vacationed with retired kicker Jay Feely, a close friend from their college days at Michigan. This being Brady, Feely prefers not to disclose the locale, but he does share that Brady’s wife, the supermodel Gisele Bündchen, spent time on that trip “trying to get me to convince Tom to stop playing.” And, Feely adds, “she was dead serious.”
Feely says he looked at his friend and told him, “Play as long as you can.” Brady smiled back and winked……
After last year’s Super Bowl victory over the Falcons, Brady told Jim Miller’s Sirius XM NFL Radio show that “If it was up to my wife, she would have me retire today. She told me that last night three times.””
you guys have a good day, i’m out of here, let the trolls play.
Cats Suck !!!
I agree
I guess if you have original thoughts and stand up for them, you’re a troll.
Don’t worry about, but the standards of what has happened on this board in the past — that was like someone using the wrong fork at dinner.
Oh man ORob a little sensitive today?