This is the last look at free agent offensive linemen. We’ve already covered the tackles and the guards, and now it’s time to look at the centers. This may be an exercise in futility, i get that, but there is always the possibility that we actually move on from C Mike Pouncey, whether it’s due to injury, salary, or a combination of both. So many fans are freaking out because we’re over the cap by $19M, and Mike Pouncey counts $9M against the cap, but this year his dead cap hit is only $2M, so releasing Pouncey for financial reasons is feasible. Can we replace him? I’m here to take a look at whether we can.
Ryan Jensen 6’3 310 26YO
Jensen started all 16 games last season for the Baltimore Ravens. He was drafted by the ravens in the 6th RD of the 2013 draft. He played some at LG and RG before finally becoming the Ravens center last season. He didn’t participate at the combine, but just to compare since the combine is all the rage right now, at his Colorado pro day, Jensen ran a 5.28 40, an 8’2′ broad jump, 25 1/2″ vertical, and put up 30 reps of 225lbs. Once again, I invoke the sentiment that if he can play for the Ravens, he can play for us. Spotrac projects Jensen to be worth around $9M per, so we would have to make his 1st year contract a cap friendly one, which isn’t difficult when you’re doing a long term deal.
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Weston Richburg 6’3 298 26YO
Weston Richburg was drafted in the 2nd RD by the Giants in the 2014 NFL draft. He started 47 of 48 games his first 3 seasons with the Giants. In 2017, Westburg suffered a concussion on Oct 1, (Game 4) and his slow recovery forced the Giants to put him on IR, ending his season. Richburg was a solid, if unspectacular starter for the Giants. The fact that they IRed him in his money year showed they didn’t really have any intention of re-signing him. He’s a young, average to above average NFL center. Missing 12 games in his final year before FA will hurt him salary wise, but how much, I don’t know.
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Russell Bodine 6’3 310 25YO
Now here’s a guy we should be interested in. Only 25 years old, he has started every single game in his 4 years in the NFL with the Bengals. His combine numbers were pretty impressive. 5.18 40, 42 reps of 225lbs, 29; vertical (both his bench press and vertical were tops). Bodine is a powerful guy who moves people and plays with a mean streak. He sounds like a perfect candidate here, but I have no idea what kind of salary he will be looking for.
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Brian Schwenke 6’3 314 27YO
I remember watching Schwenke in the Senior Bowl back in 2013 and being impressed by the kid. Stout powerful, with a chip on his shoulder, he did really in the drills, especially the mano a mano drills. He was drafted in the 4th RD in ’13 by the Titans, but his career never really took off there, starting only 30 games over 5 years. If you go by his combine numbers, he matches up pretty well, running a 4.99 40, putting up 31 reps, running a 7’31 cone drill, but all that hasn’t translated into NFL success. He would be an inexpensive pickup, but to expect him to play up to even an injured 80% Mike Pouncey level of play would be unlikely.
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Travis Swanson 6’5 312 27YO
So we want to replace one puff pastry with another? Travis Swanson seems to me like Mike Pouncey light (very light!). Just about the same size as Pouncey, Swanson is a finesse player, but was also a 2 time captain at Arkansas. Swanson has 42 starts over 4 years for the Detroit Lions, last year starting and playing in only 11 games. He was put on IR for the 2nd time in 2 years due to concussion issues. It’s been heavily rumored we have interest in Swanson, but I don’t get it. Didn’t we learn from Jordan Cameron? Should we replace our C with gossamer hips for a C with scattered grey matter? I’ll take a pass on that one, thank you! LOL – Is it me, or does Swanson even look like he’s trying to figure out what it is he’s doing on the field?
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So this completes the O-line folks. If you have any suggestions of guys I may have missed, feel free to mention them on the blog.
Finsmob Unleashed 
Most of the cap is taken up by players we re-signed from within as we build the team. There are 19 draft picks on the team from the last 3 years and there will be a new class this year. Counting our last 3 drafts and this year, we’ve had 7, 8, 7 and again 8 picks this year. So we’re not trading much away though people tend to think we do. We have not traded away 1st and 2nd rd picks.
Suh was the only blockbuster FA from the outside. I understand the debate about whether we should have signed him or not. But I think we can make it work him still here.
The cap today is not the cap we’ll have in a few days. Then it could change again after the draft and in June.
Gase is shit? I cannot see that after only 2 years. I personally have a lot of faith in him. I liked Landry, I thought he gave the team a personality, especially last year with Tannehill hurt. I do not think he is worth 13.5 million much less 16, and the way he handled himself during and after the process kind of pushed me off.
I am with Mike E on that.
I am going to wait to form any kind of opinion until at least after the draft, and actually probably not till after the first 4 to 8 games…lol
Pissed not pushed
You know he pushed you off !
Lol…offensive PI
you need wr’s who can run routes. if you have that you’ve got a great start to an offense. you don’t need one guy catching 100+ passes a year. if you have great route runners you can spread it around and be even more successful.
He ran routes fine
I’m not sure why you keep suggesting he didn’t
The reason he caught 100
Every year was bc qbs knee where to expect him to be
I’m not suggesting he didn’t. What I’m saying is if you’ve got wr’s who run great routes you can be successful on offense. They create separation because they are good at what they do. We’ve got guys who can do that and that’s why I don’t care that Landry is gone. Ford and Morgan run great routes. Carroo can run good routes. We’re going to be fine at wr.
We need to be more concerned about the offensive line and tight end. I’m more interested in seeing how they address those two situations.
Most of them were inside of 5 yards, not that difficult. Remember Landry’s two first seasons were under throw it 40, rush it 15 Lazor.
Last year I think we did it more because of the circumstances on the OL and with Cutler getting up to speed.
You need the best players a lot of luck and a good quarterback
I’m waiting till I see what they do with the OL & TE positions. If they shit the bed again…
Now that they need to add RB and WR you can expect them to shit the bed
Two of the easiest positions to find talent at.
Son, I would think Glennon would like a chance to start somewhere. Not go to a team where he probably won’t unless something happens.
Maybe another 18M to be a back up!
Lou, the OL and TE is the key to me on offense this year.
most definitely. I can see us possibly adding a wr somewhere in the draft and maybe a couple udfa’s but offensive line and tight end need to be the focus. i’m good going into camp with what we’ve got at wr right now despite my bit on Robinson and Matthews.
If we signed one then so be it but even if we don’t I don’t care.
I’m loving our wr group of Stills, Parker, Grant, Carroo, Ford and Morgan. If we added Steve Ishmael and Jester Weah in the draft it would be awesome.
You must love the bench bc most of those guys were barely on the field last year
They didn’t play bc they were lesser receivers than the ones that did play
Doesn’t matter that most of them didn’t play much. When you’ve got talent at a position like this team has at wr there’s no reason to even be worried about this season without Landry here.
This group allows us to go with an offense like we saw in wk 14 vs the Pats EVERY week and not just pull it out once a year.
But former Dolphins cornerback Sam Madison said Landry isn’t worth the kind of money he’s seeking in a multiyear deal.
“Even with the number of catches, the production is not there for me,” Madison said. “It’s hard to pay that when I’m not getting explosive plays. And he wouldn’t have those catches if they had a [good] tight end. If they had a tight end, you wouldn’t get that type of production.”
That’s a guy who spent his career covering receivers at a high level. Some of us have been saying this before Sam said it.
I think Gase really wants that TE. Cameron his 1st year didn’t pan out and his own guy Thomas last year didn’t pan out.
Who knows, we could trade down into the teens, take the playmaking TE of our choice and then target OL early a couple of times.
1. TE
2. OL
3. LB
4a. OL
4b. QB
Something like that. I think there is a good chance we sign C.J. Anderson if he’s released. So that’s why no RBs drafted top 4. Sorry Piggy, but Drake and Anderson would be a nice duo at RB.
Wo’s me Wo’s me
great name for a Chinese restaurant. there’s one in my area called Wei Mei because that’s what you say after you’ve eaten there.
In Revenge of the Pink Panther Inspector Clouseau’s name in disguise going to Japan was Low Key. LOL
WR Stills
WR Parker
WR Grant
RB Drake
TE Rookie (big guy who can split the seam)
That’s how you can have an explosive offense. Everyone one of them can take it to the house.
I can see the blog is still the same with insults if one doesn’t agree. Does anyone understand these dolphin coaches and management guys are professionals that work 80-90 hours a week doing jobs and they probably forgotten more than anyone or combined on this blog ever knew about the game. You guys DON”T understand what is going on in the background. The Quinn trade is a big step forward towards making this defense a dominant force finally and everyone is talking about him playing at 270 lbs DE is light or 250 lbs at Outside Linebacker. Defense wins championships.You guys are looking at the tree’s and can’t see the forrest.
This defense sucked for years and finally we are in reach of being a top defense, to last for years with a solid foundation, cap wise and player personnel wise this upcoming draft. The Quinn addition is a great addition. My old coach pointed out the reason this is going to be a great addition. Does anyone remember the defensive linemen dropping into coverage last couple of years. Now imagine Suh and Wake lined up and then behind them Quinn. Maybe he lines up beside them and OT has to choose who to block or maybe Wake drops back into coverage. This scheme can force offenses to bring extra personnel over to this side. No team let’s their franchise QB get hit without providing extra protection. We have a LB coming back after injury last year who is good in coverage and we have a safety who can shut down ¼ – ½ of field. We may have a shutdown cornerback if he continues to develop. Teams will only have the option of throwing outside the numbers and this is always a advantage for aggressive CB’s. We may now have 5 players who could shut down ½ of the field with 6 players playing the weak side. Offenses may be forced to adjust to our defense by attacking our other side but they could be limited to timing plays because of pass rushers outscheming the Olinemen on other side. A ballhawk gambling CB on our weak side may put this defense over the top.
Concerning the trade of Jarvis Landry, let’s see what the difference is with who replaces Landry.. It’s not hard to find slot receivers at 1/10 of the salary Jarvis wanted and he was 2nd rounder. D.Bess and Welker were low draft choices and FA. Not hard to find slot receiver with Shawn Jefferson as his coach to hone his skills. I drive by American Heritage HS 3-4 times a week and I have seen 3-4 dolphin players WR’s practicing timing pick plays last yr and several times a week this yr. They have desire to be great at what they do.The new NFL is all about passing and legal picks. Let’s give the young developing WR’s the chance at developing and then compare the difference in receptions, yards and salary then determine if the difference was good or bad. .
The OL situation may finally be fixed to be very competitive with draft, FA and development of agiasta(sic). Now that’s a three prong approach instead of the usual. We have the money to get a upgrade at guard in FA, and pick a top guard in draft with low salary for rookies. TE can wait till next yr with what we have in house or pick up.The TE that was released recently by NE or pick up TE early in draft is a possibility if they think it’s needed this year. A blocking TE who can catch stuff schemed up by Case is not a great need this year with Case’s creativity to get people in open spaces, now blocking is. Rome wasn’t built overnight but the finishing touches for this franchise is within 1 or 2 years. D is probably proud of this long post. LOL
Good song, I actually watched the complete video, hadn’t seen it in years…lol
Wow, CBS NFL rankings are so off from everyone else. What site/s do you guy use? I can’t rely on them. I feel they are either genius or way off. LOL
^meaning draft
Could we move Suh and to who?
Are you trying to give Son a coronary?
No… LOL
I keep hearing chirping about it. I think we can work around it.
So are y’all still talking about Landry?
Landry who?
There’s you go.
Richard Sherman to 9ers… stays in the division.
All that talk about Tbaum wanting him here was just that… thank goodness.
He likes being on the west coast. Never saw him coming here, roll with our young corners.
I like our corners
I liked our WRs and RBs
😤😤😤
It’s official – Suh is here to stay
Lol
Loyal to Mike Tannenbaum? Why the heck would I be loyal to him?
I’m loyal to my team, that’s why I’m here all the damn time, and I’m loyal to all of you here. They could fire T-bomb out of a rocket to the moon for all I care, that would be fine, and most likely better for the team too.
They need to fire him ASAP
He’s killing the team
Too soon to say that though, I need to see what the finished product is. Have to see all of the rest of the moves, including the draft.
You keep acting like he’s a rogue in all of this. It’s a team decision. Gase wants guys who do their job and not complain about more touches. If you read between the lines that had a lot to do with it. One week you might be the guy, another week someone else or another everyone chipped in. He doesn’t care about stats and historic shit here. Ajayi and Landry did.
We were never paying Ajayi and Landry big money. Move on and get something when you can. It’s not a Tannebaum thing, it’s a team approach. Right or wrong, they have to produce or you move on from them too.
Tim
These guys are the walking dead
You just refuse to see it
I’m not moving on. By this time next year they will both be fired…if we are lucky
Piggy – Getting Quinn had nothing to do with Landry. They had already moved on from him, it was over. There’s no shot they were going to keep him on the tag. I can assure you Landry didn’t want that, and we didn’t either.
^
If Robert Quinn is such a stud (17.5 sacks over the last 3 years, back injury, 4 years removed from his last and 2nd Pro-Bowl appearance), why were the Rams so eager to part with him for a mere 4th rounder with his $11M/year salary?
I thought you didn’t rely on PFF anymore
3-4 DEF and Aaron McDonald is going to be one of if not the next highest paid DL in the game soon.
You love his two injured years but not his 8.5 sacks playing OLB last year which is not his natural position. Oh my what David Amerson could be in the right scheme? LOL
Who the fuck is Aaron McDonald?
You know who he means
Aaron Donald
I think he has a shot at double digit sacks but it’s not worth parting ways with our best players
One had nothing to do with the other.
I think you guys are being very naive about how much more damage tannebaul can cause the longer he is here
Piggy, it’s going to be okay. Teams can compete without Landry.
bookman11 says:
March 10, 2018 at 10:55 pm
I thought you didn’t rely on PFF anymore
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I don’t, but the results in the graphic I posted are VERY telling.
What? So you only reference them when it suits your agenda?…lol!
For $11M/year, Quinn had better register 15 sacks for us this year… and he’s only done that once in his entire career, before the back injuries. He can no longer bend the edge like he used to, man.
Goodnight guys and girls! GO DOLPHINS! We’ll be fine, let’s see how everything plays out before we jump off a bridge.
Ok, I am willing to wait until they actually play games again, is that being naive?
Go Phins
Tim Knight says:
March 10, 2018 at 10:50 pm
3-4 DEF and Aaron McDonald is going to be one of if not the next highest paid DL in the game soon.
You love his two injured years but not his 8.5 sacks playing OLB last year which is not his natural position. Oh my what David Amerson could be in the right scheme? LOL
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Oh, so you’ll highlight Quinn’s 8.5 sacks last year in a 3-4 scheme while we play in a 4-3? How convenient to ignore his mere 9 sacks over 2 years in a 4-3 as the DE we traded him to be for us… for $11M/year.
You aren’t making sense again, Tim. You’re quoting the company line.
He was hurt two years in a row, missed 8 and 7 games those seasons and still averaged almost 10 sacks. WTF man?!!! Are you a fan or a critic?
My point about Quinn having 8.5 sacks as an OLB out of position last year in 15 games showed that maybe he’s healthy again. Oh I don’t know, I guess you can do that all hobbled and shit.
I think you enjoy hating Ross and Tannenbaum more than you enjoy the sport and the team.
HE CAN’T BEND THE EDGE any longer as a 4-3 DE, man. His warts were hidden last year as a 3-4 OLB.
But they weren’t a 4-3 DEF last year. How would you know that? Quinn is not a 3-4 DE which is equivalent to being a DT.
The Rams went from Fisher’s 4-3 to Phillips’ 3-4. Your he can’t bend the edge stuff was when he was injured. Players get hurt playing this game, including your favorites.
FYI, Quinn was my favorite prospect in 2011 with Pouncey and Kerrigan. #14,15 and 16 right in a row. 🙂
To me, Gase really hasn’t proven a thing. He’s only in his third year as a HC, but he’s batting .500. He’s made some very questionable decisions and heads up a team that has been a complete shit show when it comes to playing smart, disciplined football. He has also made some terrible coaching hires. He really wasn’t able to get his team to rise above adversity last year, and didn’t appear to motivate anybody or unite the team. I don’t see any offensive genius.
And the 2 guys who made his Offense click (Ajayi and Jarvis), to the tune of nearly 50% of the Offensive output in our ’16 run to the playoffs, are now gone by the will of Gase… and for CRUMBS.
Gase is beginning to remind me of Cam CaMoron… only Gase got lucky in ’16, whereas CaMoron had no such luck.
That’s why 2018 is huge for the entire team. They lay an egg and Lou will go nuts with purging because it will happen. LOL
I think the purging has begun already
On offense yes.
M13,
Only here with our team does a 10 win season against the easiest schedule in the league actually mean something special. It wasn’t all that impressive, but we’re so starved for anything close to success around here we’ve immortalized a 10 win season. Lol
I HEAR ya, man! LOL
Tim,
Do you realize what the ‘death knell’ of a 4-3 edge rusher is? It’s not an Achilles injury. It’s not an ACL injury. It’s not a broken ankle. It’s a BACK INJURY.
I’ll give Quinn credit that he can still rush the QB standing up, as we saw last year. But as a 4-3 DE with his hand in the dirt and for $11M/year? Not happening, man.
So you know more about it than the Dolphins?? Lol!! You talk in such absolutes….you have no clue, you are just a fan like the rest of us…smh
Come on guys
You know the critics here are going to watch games in 18 and judge accordingly
But look – accountability needs to be timely
If you see a mistake as it happens, point it out
Or else you might forget it
M13,
That’s kinda why I don’t think Quinn will be a three down guy. I think he’ll be a sub package pass rusher. I just don’t think he’ll hold up if he’s asked to set the edge a lot.
Right! And for $11M? I don’t get it. Sure, we could sign him to our $$$ via a new contract… but without having proven himself to us? This is Tannenbaum at his FINEST! LOL
Most teams play in sub-package 70+% of the time. New Lions HC Matt Patricia (former Pats DC) at the combine said as much. Teams are looking for TE mismatches and the guys who can cover them. Very few teams can cover them. Our problem is we don’t have one of those TEs to balance shit off. LOL
Piggy,
As always for me, wins are awesome. The more the better. But, what I want to see is a team that plays a viable brand of football that shows improvement and sustainability. You know it when you see it, and we haven’t in a long, long time. We screw up the basic stuff way too often, for me, that goes back to coaching and leadership. I think this team has zero leadership. We see the lack of it every week in a team that plays without discipline or accountability. Time for a change.
bookman11 says:
March 10, 2018 at 11:38 pm
So you know more about it than the Dolphins?? Lol!! You talk in such absolutes….you have no clue, you are just a fan like the rest of us…smh
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Yes, I AM a fan like the rest of this bunch! But if we’re to be honest, I don’t like the direction we’ve gone… nor do most of the rest of us fans. Just remember, the Dolphins brass knows better than ALL! That’s why we’ve not won a playoff game since the early 2000s. Yes, that’s an “absolute”.
That’s a fair point, however, it doesn’t mean that every move they make that you disagree with is wrong.
Agreed! I’m willing to give ’18 a chance (I have no choice as a DIE-HARD!), but it’s not looking good from my viewpoint. And just for the record, MY viewpoint doesn’t really matter… it’s JMO… just like all of the rest of us. Management is going to do what they’re going to do, REGARDLESS.
M13, I’m laughing at the Quinn stuff. You basically have him okay playing football and engaging tackles and TEs because he’s standing up, as opposed to a 3pt stance because of his back?
So he’s good with a walker in a 3-4 but needs a Rascal in a 4-3. Got it! LOL
Unlike most, I’m willing to eat my words with a side of crow. Prove me wrong, Robert Quinn, and I’ll become one of your biggest fans (NOT KIDDING)!
I just don’t see it, Tim. I think the odds are against Quinn. That’s not me being a pessimist, that’s me being REAL. But y’all KNOW that I hope I’m wrong!
Funny thing y’all don’t seem to realize about me… prove me wrong, then I become a LOYALIST to one who has proven me wrong, and I can admit my mistakes. There aren’t too many out there like me any longer. I come from the OLD SCHOOL.
It’s all good. We’re talking football here, not saving lives. 🙂
One good thing: at 2:00am we will jump one more hour closer to the start of next season.
YES!!! LOL
So you’re basically telling me that I’m going to lose sleep over all of this? 😆
I get the feeling you already have…lol
HA!!! 🙂
Longer evenings are awesome! 🙂
IMO, HELL YEAH!!! 🙂
If we traded down and wanted to secure drafting a top TE who would it be?
Hurst
No need to trade down. If we want to replace the “heart” we apparently lost then draft Troy Fumagalli
Now I know why Quinn reminded me of LT. Go watch his highlights instead of shitting on a 27/28 year old guy.
Circa 2015, hence his hefty contract we took on.
MY BAD… circa 2014 highlights. It’s 2018 now.
Young man Robert Quinn posted 10.5 sacks at 24 years old in 2014… coming off his incredible 19 sack campaign just a year before in 2013 at 23 years old. And those 10.5 sacks in ’14 are the most he’s had since. He’s now FAR removed from those numbers.
I know this guy, who at 35-years old, posted 10.5 sacks just last year for our Phins in a relative down year… and he’s making roughly $3M less than Quinn… and did it LAST YEAR at 35, not like Quinn’s last good year in ’14 at 24-years old.
I dunno… maybe I’m crazy. Tannenbaum thought he could resurrect many a career by buying up the debt of other teams… he’s still the same old Tannenbaum: chronic spender.
Oh sorry, not all the video showed up here. Anyway, I guess Quinn is done at 28 years old. LOL
We don’t have to address pass rush in FA or the draft, half the teams do though.
Yikes!
M13, do you really think I need you to tell me the stats on a player I like? 🙂
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Nelson, Quenton, OG, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 2 Pick 10: Andrews, Mark, TE, Oklahoma (A)
Round 3 Pick 9: Guice, Derrius, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 11: Leonard, Darius, OLB/ILB, South Carolina State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 23: Burnett, Deontay, WR, Southern California (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30: Benkert, Kurt, QB, Virginia (B)
Round 6 Pick 9: Flowers, Dimitri, FB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 7 Pick 5: Webb, Damon, SS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: Bozeman, Bradley, C, Alabama (A)
Wyoming, I like MANY of the players you mock this whole off season. Was just wondering what your fixation on Mark Andrews is all about? I know he is a good receiving TE and would be an upgrade from who we have but if we go that route, I would rather go with a faster Gesicki. I would really like to go with the better blocker of the 3 in Hurst who is just as fast as Andrews. Your thoughts?
Also, was Flowers used much as a blocker? I know he is listed as a FB, but all highlights I have watched show him playing like a receiving TE. Just wondering.
Do we now have 3 4th round picks? I’m lost, LOL
They probably didn’t take away the one we traded for Quinn yet.
Man, bonding out some hotties this morning. They just finished seeing the judge in their respective counties to get a bond. Both had Battery DV.
Scroll down to Thorne, Sydney and enlarge photo.
http://inmatelookup.myescambia.com/smartwebclient/jail.aspx
Don’t fall in love with a criminal Mike, she’ll break your heart, as well as breaking your balls. lol
Might be worth it, LOL
Tim – At about 44 seconds in to the video, that’s how Quinn ruined his back. lol
BBM
Between Andrews and Flowers they scored 19 TD’s in 13 games!
I know we won’t draft a FB but a man can hope!!
Yes he can block and catch!
Andrews is a great TE and his production is why I have him a little ahead of Hurst.
I really like Hurst too!
Then, I have to drive over to Santa Rosa county to get this one and she is 42 y.o. Scroll down to Crawford, Michelle and enlarge photo.
http://portal.srso.net/smartweb/jail.aspx
Wyo – The dude has TE at the bottom of his priority list. If T-Bomb has a master plan, TE better be closer to the top of that list!
You are assuming I actually read the shit I post on here! 😉
Thanks Wyoming, don’t think we could go wrong with any of the 3 (Andrews, Hurst, Gesicki). I am not sold on Goedert.
LMAO @ Wyo – I guess I did.
HERD: Saw that your Marshall men’s basketball team beat W. Kentucky 67-66 to win a spot in March Madness!! Congrats to you, young lady!!!
Thanks OD…first time in 31 years…crazy to think it’s been that long. We’ve got a pretty good team this year, fun to watch. Best thing about it is there are so many players from WV on the team. National media literally was laughing when Dan D’Antoni was hired as head coach. He’s really turned it around. And most of the time, his pressers are hilarious.
Look at this mock . . . It would be exciting to get Mayfield, but look at all the OG’s and TE’s taken in RD 1. That would be rough!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000920140/article/zierlein-mock-draft-20-browns-pick-barkley-first-trade-up-for-qb
There’s no way in hell we draft Mayfield so go ahead and love the big uglies.
If we draft Mayfield, I will be as pissed as SON is now. LOL
I would love it actually but we won’t go near him because he plays with fire and passion something the fragile coach Gase won’t stand for.
As it should be. The boss is the boss. I would do the same.
There can be only one.
Ok Mike E I actually read it!
I don’t agree with TE as the 3rd.
But it may fall to us as that!
Geseki,, Fumagalli should be available?
I’d rather take one in the second but there may be a better LB or RB available?
I personally like Benkert in the 4th! If one of the top 4 is not there @ 11
And no I don’t want mayfield!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tim,
I’m good with Gesicki or Fumagalli early but I really want Jordan Akins as part of the TE group as well. If we get two, Akins MUST be one of them.
Akins would be fine as the second TE taken
Trying the trade down thing again.
Round 1 Pick 21 (BUF): Hernandez, Will, OG, Texas-El Paso (A-)
Round 2 Pick 10: Miller, Anthony, WR, Memphis (B)
Round 2 Pick 21 (BUF): Hurst, Hayden, TE, South Carolina (B+)
Round 3 Pick 9: Ragnow, Frank, C/OG, Arkansas (A-)
Round 4 Pick 11: Hill, BJ, DT, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 23: Freeman, Royce, RB, Oregon (A-)
Round 4 Pick 30: Griffin, Shaquem, OLB, Central Florida (A+)
Round 6 Pick 9: Ferguson, Riley, QB, Memphis (A-)
Round 7 Pick 5: Johnson, Ben, TE, Kansas (A-)
Round 7 Pick 11: Nichols, Deatrick, CB, South Florida (A+)
It’s crazy at 5′ 11″ 201, Anthony Miller can put 22 reps but LB Mike McCray of Mich can only put up 16. Miller is a tough man and plays like it. Also, his coach said he is the best route runner he has ever coached. Yes, got the serious man crush cause he reminds me so much of a WR we just lost.
Sorry, have to post video again, LOL.
Just love his footwork and the way he gets the DB where he wants then makes his cut and accelerates. He loves his craft and gets open a lot.
I like him a lot!
But I think his drop rate is pretty high?
If we had not traded Landry, he would have walked as a FA, and we would’ve gotten nothing. The whole league knew it. So our FO tagged him and did a sign and trade. We dump a bad cap hit and get a pick to use on a RB that we need in a deep RB class. We only have 1 NFL RB signed. We have like 6 WRs.
Landry spurned our $13M offer from what I read. It’s sad to see him go, but just like with OVernon, he wanted way more money than he is worth to our team. We only had one winning season while he was here. Not that it was all his fault, but it’s not like his skillset is irreplaceable. He’s neither fast nor tall.
It’s possible that we need to throw a different look at the AFC East. Maybe the same ol same ol is why our offensive production was so bad: too predictable.
We have a new OC who favors pounding the rock and seam threat TEs. Let’s try that and see if it works better. With Landry getting so many targets, the other coaches knew to just stop the deep stuff and let Landry get his 9 catches for 91 yards and that would not be enough for Miami to win.
Landry is dependable but that can also mean he was predictable. Same 3 routes every game. Anybody else tired of those bubble trips for 7 yds on 3rd and 9?
Landry is gritty and tough and I loved cheering for him. He’s also good for an embarrassing temper tantrum every couple games. I won’t miss those.
What he said ^^^
I love Anthony Miller and would not be disappointed if we draft him. Get his QB also.
What’s his 40 time though? I don’t see it, and if it’s too slow, then NFL corners won’t care how tough he is. They’ll keep him penned in.
Don’t know he didn’t run at the combine or Pro-day
Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis
Height: 5-11. Weight: 201. Arm: 31.63. Hand: 10.
Projected 40 Time: 4.52.
Ah went back and it was Pettis I read won’t run @ his proday
He did not run at the combine. He had a minor injury. He was cleared just before the combine but did everything but his 40 and will run the 40 at his pro day.
No Mayfield and plenty of OL!
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Allen, Josh, QB, Wyoming (A-)
Round 2 Pick 10: Daniels, James, C/OG, Iowa (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9: Hurst, Hayden, TE, South Carolina (A)
Round 4 Pick 11: Gallup, Michael, WR, Colorado State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 23: Warner, Fred, OLB, Brigham Young (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30: Adams, Josh, RB, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 6 Pick 9: Weathersby, Toby, OT, LSU (A+)
Round 7 Pick 5: Bozeman, Bradley, C, Alabama (A)
Round 7 Pick 11: Gates, Nick, OG, Nebraska (A)
Troy was always a biggun’, now he’s a really biggun’!
Cespedes!
Verlander?
Did Verlander hit a rocket for a HR too?
I wasn’t sure what game we were playing?
LOL! I just say “Cespedes!” because SB7 used to do that to mock me, and I found it humorous.
M, What makes you think Quinn will be playing for $11M this year? You have to know they are going to they are going to give him a new contract and have probably already agreed to term. And if you don’t know that, then you will need to turn in your Cracker Jack’s Junior GM Decoder Ring.
Wyo – All I hear about Josh Allen is how hard it is to change from being an inaccurate passer in college, and we’re talking 56%, to becoming accurate in the NFL, where the passing windows are much smaller. I kind of agree with that, and as much as I love his arm strength, I think I’d rather run with Mayfield, if we’re taking a QB that early to start with.
Expand your horizons past Lou?
I agree. He’s much more accurate than I thought. He’s got to work on his feet, but I think that’s easier than ball accuracy
Wyo – Nah man, unfortunately, I’m sports addicted, I thought you knew. I listen to NFL radio or WFAN in NY basically the second I get in the car to hear what’s going on. I have heard that from numerous people, and it’s a legitimate issue. They were saying there’s no QB that wasn’t accurate in college that became more accurate in the NFL. I haven’t been able to fact check that, but where there’s smoke there’s fire. There has to be a fair amount of truth to that statement, even if there were one or two exceptions
I’m more of a turn the sound off and watch the film guy.
But I know why it’s 56%
His biggest issue is against top competition he will push it to far and look like Mat Moore!
Gunslinger? You think coaching can fix it? Even from Fragile Gase?
I don’t think a coach can fix any of Allen’s problems.
They are all in his head!
He’ll get over them or he won’t.
I think he will learn from his mistakes and be good.
JMHO
Here is the woman who was in that vid with OBJ with the maybe blunt and the lines of white stuff. She claims that they met at a club and she had no idea who he was before heading back to his hotel room….dude must have game.
I guess she’s not part of the “#Me too” movement. Yet.
“Yet” might be the key part. 🙂
She’s an “instagram model” who has now taken her account private and claims she doesn’t remember too much about that night right now…..have a feeling some negotiations are going on.
LOL @ Phelon!
Definition of instagram model from Urban Dictionary:
An extreme selfie taker usually with a nice body, broke, with hopes of an athlete hitting them up in their DM’s to meet up and bust one inside them to get pregnant.
NFL Player A: “Yo, check out this chick! She’s fine af!”
*shows phone*
NFL Player B: “Bruh, that’s an Instagram model. She’ll sleep with you either for fame or accuse you of rape in a couple years when you get paid.”
That’s hilarious.
most definitely. we are becoming firmly entrenched in the era of Idiocracy and I don’t see things changing any time soon. the level of stupidity that’s out there has surpassed anything we’ve ever thought possible.
I’m pretty sure she knew exactly who he was and she knows exactly what she’s doing
Right?
With EVERYTHING on video now and instant access and information, people have to know if you have things they are coming to take them. It’s easier than it’s ever been….gotta smarten up!
It’s not like anyone at the club wouldn’t recognize him
And on the flip side…..
If she really didn’t know…
What an idiot he is. Lol
He was in Paris….so a chance she did not know exactly who she hooked up with as far as the NFL goes. But that one shot she took was such perfect blackmail. Could be she hit a jackpot she wasn’t expecting.
11: R1P11
LB TREMAINE EDMUNDS
VIRGINIA TECH
42: R2P10
TE MIKE GESICKI
PENN ST.
73: R3P9
WR ANTHONY MILLER
MEMPHIS
123: R4P23
C FRANK RAGNOW
ARKANSAS
130: R4P30
RB BO SCARBROUGH
ALABAMA
198: R6P24
TE DEANDRE GOOLSBY
FLORIDA
223: R7P5
QB MIKE WHITE
WESTERN KENTUCKY
229: R7P11
C BRADLEY BOZEMAN
ALABAMA
If the Dolphins would have had the first pick in the 4th round instead of what they traded for – I would have had Royce Freeman instead of Scarborough and been a lot happier
RBs are a dime a dozen. 🙂
Don’t worry about Mike White we’ll have Glennon locked up here in a few days. Tannehill and Glennon can you feel the magic?
11: R1P11
QB BAKER MAYFIELD
OKLAHOMA
42: R2P10
RB NICK CHUBB
GEORGIA
73: R3P9
TE MIKE GESICKI
PENN STATE
123: R4P23
G WILL CLAPP
LSU
130: R4P30
WR ALLEN LAZARD
IOWA STATE
198: R6P24
LB SKAI MOORE
S CAROLINA ST
223: R7P5
TE ETHAN WOLF
TENNESSEE
229: R7P11
G SKYLER PHILLI
That’s the problem – If you wait past the 1st and 2nd RD, you’re screwed on the O-line. Will Clapp will be a backup at best, we need to upgrade. I hate that aspect of the draft, you can draft all the offensive talent in the world, but if our O-line sucks, it won’t matter.
It happens in almost every draft I do
Traditionally you can get good interior OL late in the draft
But we haven’t had any luck in that capacity
And I don’t really know any of the names except for the top names
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-dolphins-jawuan-james-20180311-story.html
If James is moved or released all the players selected in former general manager Dennis Hickey’s first draft class will be off the roster unless the Dolphins re-sign safety Walt Aikens, a fourth-round pick that year, or defensive end Terrence Fede, the 2014 seventh rounder. Both are unrestricted free agents.
Offensive guard Billy Turner, tight end Arthur Lynch, linebacker Jordan Tripp, receiver Matt Hazel were all released in previous years. All but Lynch were still on NFL rosters last season.
Ha! I loved the Arthur Lynch pick from the beginning! 😀
Lol.
Hazel had 1 catch 1 yard last year.
Turner played in 1 game.
He did hit on Landry though that silver fox, gotta give him that one, and now he’s a Cleveland Brown with a Brinks truck!
Sonny – You should change your name to Quaalude of a quaalude of a Shula. lol
Maybe I will and we’ll change Gase’s name to pussy
Pussy Gase sounds like a James Bond villain chick
my priority udfa list:
Jester Weah, WR, Pitt
Steve Ishmael, WR, Syracuse
Dontrell Hilliard, RB, Tulane
Jordan Chunn, RB, Troy
add TE Tyler Conklin, Central Michigan to that list
I can’t coach Ajayi he wants to win. I can’t coach Landry he wants to win. Get rid of Suh he intimidates me. How the hell can I go 8-8 with those kind of players?
I’ll bet anybody cash money right now that we sign Glennon. $5 who wants that action?
Yeah that’s what I thought
Bridgewater. And this is the way I look at it. We signed Cutler to a $10M contract which pissed a lot of people off but Cutler came in with no time to prepare in the offseason and put up similar numbers to what Tannehill put up in ’16; yet many consider Tannehill’s ’16 to be the best yr of his career.
So the question is: why pay Tannehill that money when you can sign someone who can give you at least the production he gives you and do it cheaper while grooming another qb who was drafted for the starting role in the near future?
Bridge water is completely unproven and coming off of a Culpepper kind of injury.
He has nothing to do with the future of the franchise. Why are you spending money on RT when you can get Teddy much cheaper and have similar results? It’s not like RT is going to play lights out.
Save the cap, get something for Tannehill, draft a quarterback of the future.
I’m your daisy.
Son I don’t bet on things i don’t directly have a say in the outcome!
Come to the Fest then lol
October is not a good month for me to get to Florida
Son – I don’t think we’re signing Glennon. Gase wasn’t even there when Glennon was there, he just got there last year. No connection
BLL – Because Tannehill is cheap, knows the offense, and is a better QB..
1. Bridgewater is cheaper. 2. Tannehill knowing the offense doesn’t mean shit. 3. Saying he’s a better qb is a reach because he’s average at best and it’s not that difficult to replace an average quarterback.
Barca lounger Lou?
Yes
Lol
The fragile coach Gase.
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BLL – 1. Cheaper is always better. 2. you have been using Cutler’s lack of time in the offense to support your arguments, now you say it doesn’t matter. 3. If it was easy to replace an average QB, the 29 teams without an elite QB would do it.
Cheaper is not always better.
what I’m saying is it doesn’t matter if Tannehill is familiar with the offense because it doesn’t help him. no, cheaper isn’t always better but when you have an average quarterback like Tannehill he’s not that hard to replace. Bridgewater could do no worse than him with a complete offseason.
and, again, you didn’t read what I said. I’m not looking at Bridgewater as the future. I’m looking at him to allow us to rid ourselves of Tannehill and save the cap space and begin going in another direction. doesn’t make any sense to hang onto Tannehill for one more year. free ourselves of him now.
Not sure if this was discussed but we’re exploring trade options for Ja’Waun James.
we’ve been. for days
This was the first report I saw about it other than just rumors.
then how were the others rumors?
More speculation than an actual report saying we are actually looking to trade him.
The grass is always greener
I did read what you said. It just didn’t make sense. If you are going to move way from your top 15 QB (average by definition, is at the upper level of average), why do it now and bring in a lesser QB? Cap space? For whom? Who is out there that you need the money for? If your new QB is being drafted and he doesn’t pan out, which statistically speaking he won’t, now you’re stuck with below average. I’m all for drafting a new QB high in the draft and trying to find elite, but throwing away what you have for unknown when you don’t have to doesn’t make sense.
lol. yeah, because that top 15 quarterback has guaranteed us success in the past. we don’t want to give up that chance that we could go 8-8 this season.
I just don’t understand the logic there. What exactly does Tannehill give us a shot at? Seriously. Tell me that. What do you think we’re capable of with Tannehill here that we can’t find somewhere else. The argument that he’s not replaceable is just lame.
And why bother having him around one more year if he’s not in your future plans? Give him the chance to hook on with someone else now rather than waiting.
wr screens do wonders for comp %
you said it in your last sentence. “throwing away what you have’. we already know what we have and when you look at the fact that we brought in Cutler from retirement with no offseason to prepare and still had similar production to what Tannehill had in ’16 then you have to think, as a team, what are we hanging on to this guy for?
you’re going to pay $19M this year for someone when you can bring in another qb and get similar production from him in your offense or possibly do better?
No one has argued that he is irreplaceable. And he gives us every bit as much and more of a chance of winning every week as anyone out there in free agency.
If that’s your argument for keeping him then it’s a weak one. If you can sign Bridgewater to a $10M/yr contract then why keep Tannehill around for what you’re paying him.
Trade him and get something for him. free up the cap space and draft a qb to sit for a year behind Bridgewater. Why keep a guy around you have no intention of keeping as your starter?
Dolphins quarterbacks to throw at least 500 passes:
Touchdowns: Tannehill ranks 3rd with 106, trailing Bob Griese (196) and Marino (420)
Interceptions: Tannehill ranks 3rd with 66, trailing Griese (172) and Marino (252)
Note: Tannehill has second lowest interception ratio (2.5%), trailing Chad Pennington (1.6%). Griese has the highest with 5%.
Yards: Tannehill ranks 3rd with 18,455, trailing Griese (25,092) and Marino (61,361)
Quarterback rating: Tannehill ranks 2nd with 86.5% trailing Pennington (94.5%). Marino is 3rd (86.4%).
Game-winning drives: Tannehill is tied with Jay Fielder for 3rd with 10, trailing Griese (20) and Marino (51).
all the more reason to let him go. those stats aren’t that good
put the comparisons to Griese in perspective. they didn’t throw the ball that much in the 70’s
Miami Dolphins quarterback Ryan Tannehill completed 61 percent of passes that were in the air for longer than 20 yards, which was second in the NFL in 2016,
Tannehill also completed 64 percent of passes that were in the air longer than 16 yards, fourth in the NFL. His overall accuracy of 64.1% was 4th in 2016, and his accuracy on throws of 20+ was 61.0%, The 2nd highest.
Tannehill had nine touchdowns in the air for 16 yards or more. Tannehill also connected for a touchdown on 17 percent of his deep pass attempts, which led the NFL by a substantial margin.
considering the fact that anything he threw beyond 11 yds in ’16 he completed 50% or less of I don’t know how the fugg he could have completed 61% of his passes that were in the air longer than 20 yds. that’s just the biggest crock of shit ever.
he threw 88 passes 11-20 yds and completed 50% of them
he threw 22 passes 21-30 yds and completed 45% of those
he threw 11 passes 31-40 yds and completed 18% of those
he threw 7 passes over 40 yds and completed 51% of those
BUT, he completed 61% of his passes that were in the air over 20 yds. that’s rich.
His comp pct. was 67.1 in 2016. That’s pretty darn good.
yep, all those bublble screens do wonders for your comp%. Marino’s completion % was never that good but it didn’t need to be because he could put you in the endzone from anywhere on the field.
He threw more passes down the field in 2016 than any other season. His YPA was 7.70 the best of his career and 8th in the NFL. So it had to be more than bubble screens.
Tim,
I posted the stats above from ’16
Bridgewater is completely unknown…you cannot say he gives you what the bare minimum RT17 will give you.
I really don’t care what Gase does at QB. I think RT17 will be the starter and there will be competition brought in for sure. But I know what I heard him say at the presser. He wasn’t only one that missed him last year.
There isn’t a doubt in my mind that Tannehill is here next year and beyond.
He says “yes fragile coach Gase”.
i’m not buying it and the reason why I’m not is because they’re not going to make the changes they did in the coaching staff and the personnel changes they’re going to make elsewhere on the team and stick with Tannehill. He’s gone. Just like I said Landry was gone and everyone kept denying it and when it happened everyone tried to rationalize it, same things going to happen here.
he’s not in their future plans. they’ve done what they could with him and they know it and they know it’s time to move in a different direction.
Okay, that’s it. You need to turn in your Cracker Jack’s Secret GM Decoder Ring. You, like the Talking Heads, have stopped making sense.
M – Let this be a warning to you. Your ring is at stake too.
I’ll admit I have a bias against Tannehill but you must admit you have a bias towards him if you’re going to sit there and say the guy is irreplaceable with what’s out there in free agency.
We can sign Bradford for less money and be at least as well of with him throwing the ball as we would with Tannehill. Don’t let your bias get in the way of logic.
Bradford is injury prone
Yet, everyone else here thinks a 30 yr old qb coming off an ACL injury who hasn’t thrown a pass in a game in over a year is just going come out and light it up; especially when his play over his career hasn’t shown him to be consistent to begin with.
Who said that?
JuWaun James has probably played his last game in Miami, I believe Miami will try to trade James or cut him, I think Miami has confidence in Sam Young
I think they restructure Tannehill and Stills to save cap space this year
I don’t see a restructure of either. Stills contract gives them and out at the end of the year and Tannehill isn’t in the future plans so it wouldn’t make sense to do so. Even if they did decide to go with Tannehill for one more year his dead cap is only $2.3M if the cut him next year.
Not being in their future plans it wouldn’t make any sense to restructure him.
You know they’re going to restructure Quinn and it’s probably something that they already had going after the trade was announced to lessen the cap hit this year and that may be the only one. Branch’s contract gives them an out and so does Reshad’s
I think everyone who is debating me on the Tannehill issue is missing the point. He’s not in our future plans. What’s the difference if he stays or goes and who gives a shit if we go 8-8 with him or 6-10 with Bridgewater because IDGAF.
This year isn’t about trying to make it to playoffs. It’s about building a base to get you to the point where you can get a few key players next yr between FA and the draft and take a leap forward next year rather than blowing it up next year and waiting even longer.
Get rid of the dead weight now. Why the hell would you want to wait any longer? Does it give you joy just to see the team go .500 this season only to finish under .500 again next year?
Tannehill is not the future at qb for Miami; no matter what Gase is saying in the pressers. They’re drafting the future at qb this yr and they’re moving on. Dump him, clear the space and get the help on the o-line we need to get a jump on next season.
Teddy Bridgewater SMH
I believe Gase has confidence in Tannehill, He has said so, That said Miami can dump tannehill now with only 4 mil in dead money, if they keep him he will get 19mil, they either trade him or restructure, maybe on a 3 year deal, probably save 10 mil this year
why would you restructure a guy you have no intentions of keeping?
Says who?
You are the only one I’ve heard say this.
Gase came out and glowed when talking about him. You want to say this or that about Landry, but Gase never talked about him like he does RT17.
Could it be all smoke screen? Yeah. Truth is nobody knows what their future plans are. But for now, I see no better option. Bring in a rookie, a vet, and let them battle it out. They aren’t going to just cut him.
Where are you getting this from?
Why do you say Miami has no intentions of keeping him? Exactly who will be under center in Sept? do you think a rookie will step up and take his place.
I believe Tannehill will be the starting QB in 2018 without any doubt,
so really all that’s left on his contract is 4.6 signing bonuses, a starting QB in the NFL is a bargain at 19.8, it stands to reason that they will restructure him to a 3 year deal and give him 2 years under Gase and if it doesn’t work bite the bullet on the third year.
well what do you expect him to say? yeah, we’re finished with Ryan. We’ve tried everything we could with him but we don’t think he can get it done.
or, is he going to continue to show confidence in him as a starting qb so a team that may be looking for one could possibly look at him as a guy they’d be interested in?
and I didn’t say they’re just going to cut him.
I doubt that’s the case, he was going strong in the 2017 offseason prior to his injury. did Gase lose confidence in him without him throwing a single pass since?
o rob,
again, you look at what Cutler did at qb coming out of retirement with no offseason to prepare and still put up numbers that were similar to what RT did in ’16 and they paid him only $10M compared to the $19M they’re going to be looking at paying RT this year and what makes you think he’s going to be around?
He’s gone. They can get a cheaper alternative that will yield similar results as a bridge until they get their rookie qb ready and spend some of that money to shore up positions elsewhere.
doesn’t do them any good to hang onto him when the results really aren’t going to be that much difference for the extra money they’re going to be spending.
and, I heard a few days ago that they are interested in Bridgewater.
well, a lot of people thought all the talk about trading Landry was just a bunch of bull too. the writing is on the wall. Tannehill is done.
pheloniusphish says:
March 11, 2018 at 7:55 pm
Okay, that’s it. You need to turn in your Cracker Jack’s Secret GM Decoder Ring. You, like the Talking Heads, have stopped making sense.
M – Let this be a warning to you. Your ring is at stake too.
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I knew this cheap piece of shit they give you in that box was going to break sooner or later. junk. not like the stuff they used to give you
You don’t even get anything in cereal anymore! What’s the world coming to?!
damn, when I was a kid we used to get 45 rpm singles on the back of the box. I remember getting Sugar Sugar by the Archies on one.
also when I was a kid, during football season at the GULF gas station they would give you a sticker book that had each team in it and a place for each player’s sticker and every time you went in for gas you would get some stickers to put into the book.
Gulf station was my go-to for grape nehi. Lol