The official start day of NFL Free Agency starts today, and yet there were about 1000 players who were already gobbled up, and much to my surprise, the cap poor Dolphins were wheeling and dealing like nobody’s business. I’m not sure I’ll ever understand what the plan is, I was pretty sure we were going to be quiet in FA, and we were out there banging like we had the same amount of cash available as the Jets and Browns. One thing I do know, any thoughts the Dolphins were tearing this thing down and starting a 2-5 year rebuild has been quashed. There’s no question now that we’re in it to win it, but have the moves we’ve made made us better?
We replaced a 25 year old fan favorite WR (Jarvis Landry) with another 25 year old WR (Albert Wilson) who has basically 1/4 of the amount of receptions Landry has. We didn’t want to pay Landry near $16M per year, so we get a good deal on Wilson at $8M per. Hold on, because then we sign 32 year old veteran slot WR Danny Amendola. Huh? He gets a 2 year contract for about $12M, with $8.25M guaranteed. I think this signing pushed the Landry fans over the edge. I get it, we couldn’t spend $15-16M on our own stud, so we replace him with Wilson and Amendola? I can’t get inside information, but obviously Gase was not happy with our WR corps. Forget Landry, I think he’s seriously worried about Parker and Carroo. I think rightfully so, because Parker has yet to give us an elite season. Why did Landry routinely have 100 receptions, and what should be our best WR (Parker) about half that? Then you look at the guy we had to have in the 2016 draft and used 3 picks to get Leonte Carroo, who has given us 10 receptions in 2 seasons. If this doesn’t explain why we now have 2 WR’s instead of one, nothing will. Just so you all understand, i thought maybe we would address this in the draft, but I guess Gase wanted more proven commodities, and I get that. We’ll have to wrap Amendola in the same bubble wrap we used for Pouncey in the preseason.
OK, now onto the big boys, the defensive tackles, because it sure seems like we’re gonna need one with the departure of Ndamukong Suh. Here’s the 5 I think may help us, that is, if we have any money left to spend . . .
Dontari Poe 6’3 346 27YO
How do you replace a big man? With an even bigger man! Poe is huge at 346 lbs, and no, he’s not at the same level of Suh. No one we sign in FA will be, but that’s not the point. Not to insult anyone here, but say we bring in Poe at about $7M per year, he’s going to give us more than a 1/3 of the production of Suh, for a 1/3 of the price. Poe was the 11th pick in the 2012 NFL draft, and played 5 seasons with the Chiefs. He went to ATL last season on a 1YR deal, and is now a free agent. He’s a big DT that clogs the middle, and in his best season in 2014 brought down opposing QB’s 6 times. He;s not a real pass rush threat, more of a run stopper, and that works for me. I think Poe would be ideal, but there’s a lot of other teams out there flush with cash, so we’ll see what happens.
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Bennie Logan 6’2 309 28YO
I actually had Logan as one of guys I thought we should target last season, and now, like Poe, he’s also available because he only signed a 1 YR deal with the Chiefs. Logan played the first 4 years of his career in Philadelphia, and he’s a guy that makes an awful lot of tackles. Like Poe, he’s not a real pass rush threat, but he’s steady and can wrap up well, which makes him valuable to me. Like Poe, he signed an $8M contract last year, and I expect he would be in the same neighborhood as Poe, and if Spotrac is accurate, they have Poe at $5.7M, which I inflated to $7M, and figure the same for Logan.
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Clinton McDonald 6’1 290 31YO
McDonald played in 14 games last season , starting 3 for the Tampa Bay Bucs, and managed to tally 5 sacks as part of the DL rotation. At this stage of his career, he wouldn’t be a starter, but what we really need is either a starter, or a solid rotational guy, and I think McDonald would give us the latter. McDonald has played the last 4 years with the Bucs, and in 2016, started 12 games, so he’s capable.
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Nick Fairley 6’5 291
Fairley missed the entire 2017 season with a heart condition. He was released by the Saints with an NFI designation due to that condition. Apparently, Fairley feels he’s ready to return to the NFL, and would obviously need to pass a physical in order to be eligible to play. The former 1st RD pick in 2011 (13th overall), Fairley actually had his best season in 2016, logging 6.5 sacks for the Saints. Always a pass rushing threat, he played 4 seasons for Detroit before signing with the Rams, and then the Saints. Obviously, it’s an odd situation with him having the heart issue, but if he’s cleared, he would be a pass rushing threat from the interior we could certainly use.
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Tom Johnson 6’3 295 33YO
Johnson has obviously been around, but Johnson played in all 16 games last season for the Vikes starting 15. He was fairly productive notching 32 tackles and 2 sacks. It would be nice to put another stud in the lineup, but a solid guy in the rotation would suffice too. I would think he would be a 1 year contract, and that’s fine, because we have some young guys that are up and coming, Godchaux especially, but Vincent Taylor also flashed, so this is just a stop gap.
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Kyle Williams, Chris Baker and Star Lotuleilei all signed contracts already, so this is what’s left. It’s not especially pretty once you get past Poe, but some of these guys are certainly serviceable. We may also dragft a DT early if the draft falls that way, like Da’Ron Payne or Vita Vea. Second RD option for me at least could be Harrison Phillips. If there are any DT’s you feel I should have mentioned, gimme a shout.
Chad Henne looks out in mindless fascination, like a caveman witnessing his first snow
Finsmob Unleashed 
I’m also in agreement that McDonald really isn’t a free safety. He’s actually a strong safety. I wouldn’t be opposed to looking for an actual free safety. I don’t think it’s a huge need but it wouldn’t hurt my feelings if they drafted to safety
Lot of thank yous in there — including to us — but not to Gase.
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Jarvis Juice Landry@God_Son80
MIAMI THANK YOU. THE FANS, My TEAMMATES.. FOR THE EXPERIENCE THESE PAST 4 YEARS. I CANT TELL YOU WHAT IT HAS MEANT TO ME AND MY FAMILY. FOREVER GRATEFUL TO MR. ROSS, MR. HICKEY, AND PHIL McGeoghan FOR BELIEVING IN ME. IM EXTREMELY EXCITED FOR THE NEXT CHAPTER OF MY CAREER
9:34 PM – Mar 14, 2018
stanger,
I noticed the omission of Gase too.
That must be counting the Hayes signing and more, because Spotrac says $25M
That’s 2 guys that didn’t do things Gase’s way, and 2 guys that are no longer Miami Dolphins. I wouldn’t expect a thank you from Landry to Gase. I think Gase may sniffle once, and then get past it. lol
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
March 15, 2018 at 8:40 am
Rock
Enjoy watching your 6-10 losers again this year with your piece of shit quarterback. Better hope the D creates a lot of turnovers with that fucking loser behind center
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I thought you were leaving to go suck Nick Foles’ cock full-time on another blog
I will have fun rooting for my team next year whatever they’re record turns out to be.
At least I don’t suck that loser Tannehill’s cock like you do
Thank Bat we were smart enough to re-up James!
LOL @ Rock
Mike its never about the dead money, its about the cap savings. The dead money doesnt matter when your looking to get cap space because 13 in dead money isnt 26 in dead money for holding on to them even when they arent necessarily in your plans. the 13mil dead money is also 13mil savings, so the idea is, if we dont have a solution at QB not named Tanny, we keep him and 26mil is what we pay him for that year. If we have his replacement ready, or he just stinks it up, we can get back 13mil to put towards someone else, maybe a place holder (kinda like Bradford is this year, or Cutler was for us last year).
People shouldn’t freak out over dead cap hits unless its higher than the amount that it would cost to keep them. If there are savings to be had, then you only have to justify if you gain more by keeping them than you do cutting them. This is also why Suh’s departure was definitely about culture, because we basically aren’t going to net anything in the long or short run of his “savings” by having cut him and its why Tanny isnt at all safe for 2019 because he still SAVES us 13mil by cutting him.
At the end of the day if a team wants to move on from a player they can.
Yeah, i think too much gets made about the dead money, etc. Its just moving pieces around and they have a lot of flexibility there and we in no way should be flipping out thinking we are boxed in to anything because of it. It helped us right now, and that’s the best part of it.
D – I get that man, but the savings just went down from what I think was about $17M, not positive what his salary was, either $19 or $20M, and his dead cap hit was only about $2M. Not a big deal to me, just to the people who are convinced he should be gone next season
Think of it this way, whatever reason we would have for thinking about letting Tanny go for 2019 would you keep him and it be 26mil against the cap or cut him and it be 13mil against the cap? This is why dead money isnt in the picture with their decisions because its all allocated if you keep them. Suh would have been just as cuttable as a pre june 1st cut as he is a post June 1st cut, they must be keeping a buffer for a “in case” accident like Tanny going out again, or some big target player gets cut by another team and they really want to be in a position to get them. This June 1st designation and not trading him was either means that or it was completely a mistake.
“The Dolphins are designating Suh a post-June 1 cut. That means the team must carry Suh’s contract until June but will get a $17 million cap windfall at that time. A source told The Herald the team will use that cap space to sign its draft picks and operate into the regular-season.”
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article205165309.html
Until next year!!!
Geez Lou are you that pissed off that nothing makes you even a little Not pissed off?
Let me help you out here lou(ser)
https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/fanposts
Ha the first blog had Marino in it! 🙂
in the draft,
My fave FS is Armani Watts TAMU. very athletic w/ a very high ceiling.
a risky one is
DeShon Elliott out of UTexas w/ 6 INTs in 2017 and 9 in college career.
He should be there late in the third round or early 4th. I’d even pkg our 2 4th picks to move up to get him at the top of 4th if the DB coach likes him.
or
Damon Webb Ohio State w/ 5 INTs could be had in the late 4th or might even fall to the 6th.
I like this guy, but he’s a small school guy trying to step up 3 levels.
which Brent Grimes did so yeah I like this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47QKLON7Rgo
I like this guy a lot. Watched him often as he played ACC.
very versatile and a really good cover FS.
only thing is he might need to go too early for us
as we MUST MUST MUST get a stud quality TE.
If he falls to the 4th we should run to the podium to turn in our card.
Even trade back up in the round to get him.
Getting Foles spew in his eye doesn’t piss him off.
11: R1P11 QB JOSH ROSEN, UCLA
42: R2P10 C JAMES DANIELS, IOWA
73: R3P9 TE MIKE GESICKI, PENN STATE
123: R4P23 RB JOHN KELLY, TENNESSEE
130: R4P30 LB FRED WARNER, BRIGHAM YOUNG
198: R6P24 CB RASHAAN GAULDEN, TENNESSEE
223: R7P5 FB DIMITRI FLOWERS, OKLAHOMA
229: R7P11 K DANIEL CARLSON, AUBURN
Here’s a Coors for you for taking flowers in your mock!
What draft pick trade would it take to move us up from 11 to 4 so we are certain to get Baker Mayfield? our 1st and 3rd this yr? and a 2nd next yr? Would that be worth doing?
That would put me in a very Lou mood!!!!!!
I read that Landry tweet as the people who drafted him. Gase wasn’t around when that happened and he made him a focus of the offense. He could have meant it as a slight, but it doesn’t seem that way when you look at it.
Pretty SOP to thank your coach(s)…..and he did throw in Phil McGeoghan. Had to Google to figure out he was the Phins’ assistant WR coach at one point.
Whoa!!!
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
More changes coming in Miami: Dolphins center Mike Pouncey has requested his released and Miami is expected to grant it today, per source. Moving on from Pouncey, Ndamukong Suh, Jarvis Landry.
That’s fine with me, but we better sign Sitton or we’ll have 3 big holes to fill on the OL.
That is pretty surprising though, I wonder what prompted this
He wasn’t willing to take a pay cut.
That’s fine by me. Maybe we’ll have some positive leadership on the o-line from now on.
Hahaha at Mike with “It’s fine by me”
🙂
Maybe Pouncey can go play with Jarvis Landry in CLE, or Ajayi in PHI. If PIT had cash, he’d probably go there
Guess we need a center
I kind of think we needed one anyway
Hello Billy Price!
or Frank Ragnow
That should be another $7M available
If leadership and character was really an issue – Pouncey would have been the first guy I cut
Whatever, just sign Sitton and draft either Wynn, Price, or Ragnow.
He gave this city everything he had except for a pay cut.
LOL
LMAO!
So another $7M in cap space. Not sure how I feel about Pouncey leaving. Except once he’s no longer a Dolphin, fuck’em.
Exactly! If he goes to an AFC team I hope his hips fall off
So much for cap hell….
Was more like cap heck…maybe cap shucks….
There is always a way around it.
Pig,
I think the olines mentality followed Pouncey and I’ve never known him to be of strong football character or tenacity. He was that cool kid that the other players liked, but he didnt help the team in the long overall.
Hopefully no one is slitting their wrists over this one.
And it’s not like the O-Line has been worth a shit in the last 5 + years.
All is still good in the world!
I am surprised they are just letting him go though. I would think he was tradeable. Should be able to get something.
Now Piggy has to box up his Pouncy jersey.
I keep that one in prison with the spirit of Aaron Hernandez
So Wake and Tannehill take pay cuts and stay
But every other expensive player is gone
Obviously these are financial moves
Which is why I hate the talk about “locker room. Reserve” blah blah blah
Not pay cuts, restructures. Did Wake do that? I know R. Jones did?
That’s what I meant
But same idea. Forgot About Jones
Neither Wake nor Jones took cuts. They must have asked Pouncey to take one because of his injury history.
Both restructured
I just used the wrong room
All of our expensive players are being asked to make cap room
What would be the right room? LOL
rather than release… again, why not try to trade him for some kind of a pick. Or maybe they tried… that’s why they didn’t go to Oklahoma for Barkley’s workout. hmm.
I don’t think Pouncey going to bet much value
It’s a solid cut bc it saves a lot of cap room
But it’s not done yet – so maybe some one will offer something. I would take a pack of gum for Pouncey
His contract is real cut friendly and pretty low for what he at least once was. If they can’t trade him, not a good sign for him.
The new sign up in Davie.
Did you mean to post this
LOL….maybe I have more faith in there being an actual plan than you. 🙂
that’s some funny shit there!
Loved how they gave him the business about dinosaurs.
Tim
I’m guessing the extension of Wake opens up cap room now
So it’s not exactly restructuring Or taking a pay cut
I didn’t hear anything about Wake.
https://twitter.com/nealdriscoll/status/974080946692657152?s=21
Oh right I saw that yesterday.
Took all of a few minutes to look like we are back to one position on the line open.
They sure as hell aren’t keeping the OL the same that’s for sure.
Good
That’s a good one
Good. I just wish he was a little younger, but overall an upgrade for this year and next.
Now instead of needing an OG we need a center…lol
Sort of – Not sure I’m thrilled about Ted Larsen at RG, or anywhere really, but we’ll probably roll with him there
It’s basically Larsen, Davis or Asiata isn’t it
Davis was good last year
I don’t know why my phone changes my posts to the extent of changing everything about what I intend to post
My phone is outright defiant
Did you mean to call your phone defiant, or an asshole?
The have to be careful about saying something to inflammatory or my phone will just change my post to “I sleep with goats” or something like that
We all should have just bought John Denney jerseys.
Not Piggy!
I just saw the Last jedi last night and I missed this but lol
https://twitter.com/daisyridleee/status/973666036112347137?s=21
LOL
Piggy – That’s true, I suppose Davis would be fine, but I have no idea how far along Asiata is, if he’s ready yet, or ever will be.
Its a gamble to rely 0n young guys
But is relying on any draftee other than nelson any less risky?
Nope, not really
You ever see those funny text sites whether they’re real or not?
https://twitter.com/EJFootball/status/974328502433411074
My secret source says Pounce asked for a raise and when they said no he quit.
I read that as secret sauce and LMAO! 🙂
Piggy’s phone:
My secret sauce sprayed Pounce ass for a glaze and when he said no he queefed.
😝
It’s like Tanny got traded to a new team!
This is going to be a LONG season…
What makes you say that?
Lou got you by the short hairs?
No, Lou probably likes Pouncey getting cut… and though I wish we’d have traded Pouncey, his getting cut tells me something more.
Pouncey was Adam Gase’s ‘son’… and now even he wants out. Not a good sign for what’s been brewing in Miami.
I shouldn’t say “cut”, I should say asking for his outright release.
Lol @ “probably”
Lou’s been saying he sucks for about 3 years now
I don’t think we will be fielding a bad team
I’m more concerned about long term consequences and what the big picture is
But if it goes south early – it’s going to be real ugly
Gase won’t last the season if they aresignificantly below . 500 by mid season
Absolutely agreed, Pig.
You guys seem to forget we’ve gone 6-10 twice with many of these players.
I get it
But these are bold moves
So they better work or it’s going to get ugly
Of course but we’re kind if used to ugly. LOL
Same per year as Pouncey was scheduled for. Yeah we will take a $2 mil hit on Mike, but guarantee the Sitton hit will be less this year.
mf13ss says:
March 15, 2018 at 1:14 pm
This is going to be a LONG season…
You’re right, playing 19 or 20 games can be quite long.
Man, I hope you’re right! 🙂
I see no reason to be down because Pouncey quit. He didn’t want to take a pay cut, that has nothing to do with not wanting to be with Gase, just not wanting to be with Gase with less money in his pocket
Most of the humans and 🐷 here wanted to part ways with Pouncey
The one unit I can say we improved this offseason was OL
And that was a dire situation
Could be he evaluated his health situation differently than the coaches and docs did. Chronic conditions are just that.
Armando said at the end of the season expect big changes this offseason. Not that he knew exactly what it would be, but he knew from inside sources it wasn’t staying status quo.
Bash Hyde sometimes but he asks a good Q: “Pouncey is out as Dolphins center. Is Ted Larsen in?” He does have lots of experience snapping.
Could be we go either C or G in the draft.
We also re-signed Jake Brendel
I think that so long as we come away with either of Billy Price or Frank Ragnow, we won’t miss Pouncey.
Most of us here have thought Pouncey had already passed his expiration date, especially for the $$$ he was making… hence a few of us pounding the table for Pat Eiflein last year.
I think the more disturbing thing about this is that Gase (and the whole FO) loved Pouncey, and the feeling seemed to be reciprocal: Pouncey was one of Gase’s adopted “sons”, if you will.
Let’s face it: this happening was unforeseen by EVERYBODY… that Pouncey would ask for his outright release, over $$$ or anything else.
The motivating factor to all these moves is $$$
That’s what I said earlier
Lockerrrom cancer talk is silly imo
But the other side of that is also not believable to me – that certain players were safe bc of the way the team felt about them
I bet if Tannehill didn’t do something about his contract he would have been gone
To me the Pouncey move makes every move abundantly clear to me
It’s about the money and creating more of it NOW
That’s why I said whoa when I posted it. LOL
YUP! Exactly! You get what I’m sayin’!
Let’s just get Denny to play center full time?
Imagine Tnnaheill in the shotgun 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage
Bookman That’s a good one there!
I might steal it
I liked it, too!!!
Interesting…
The 49ers signed Weston Richburg so it makes sense from that standpoint.
Oh forget it
We got our center now
Anyone know about him?
Tim Knight says:
March 15, 2018 at 11:07 am
“The Dolphins are designating Suh a post-June 1 cut. That means the team must carry Suh’s contract until June but will get a $17 million cap windfall at that time. A source told The Herald the team will use that cap space to sign its draft picks and operate into the regular-season.”
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Yeah thats what i was saying above, but they also have to keep in mind the more of it they use before next season the more cap hit we take into next season.
naplesfan2010 says:
March 15, 2018 at 11:47 am
What draft pick trade would it take to move us up from 11 to 4 so we are certain to get Baker Mayfield? our 1st and 3rd this yr? and a 2nd next yr? Would that be worth doing?
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We would have to give up a future first for sure and probably a 2nd or 3rd this year. Problem is there are going to be a lot of bidders for it so it might get more expensive than that.
How in the fuck do you get a player and a 7th for a 7th?
Is he something where we are helping them cap wise?
Daniel Kilgore was rated as PFF’s #23 graded Center last year.
Mike Pouncey was rated as PFF’s #27 graded Center last year.
Kilgore will cost us $5.4M against the cap.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/daniel-kilgore-7882/
At that price — which the Niners did not want to pay — meet your new center.
Plus his name is cooler and more fierce.
Kilgore might be more about depth
The thing I like is we’re not staying status quo on the OL. The Giants are working hard on theirs as well.
I think the miners like him a lot
He just signed a 3 year deal
Told ya the Sitton deal would be a 2 year. That means they have draft plans too. It might have changed even more now that Pouncey is being cut.
Sitton and Kilgore sure didn’t make us younger, but they don’t have to draft interior line as much as before. Heck — they could go OT high up cause James is only on a one-year string.
Now I see the ButtHurt written on the wall!
They said they had a plane to keep Pouncy healthy!
It was as Kilgore’s back-up on the bench and wanted him to get payed like a back-up?
Maybe I’m just throwing turds again?????? 😉
Holy shit that was fast! Is Kilgore any good?
He was their starter. The 49ers signed Weston Richburg so they can’t have two centers at that cost.
Piggy, no need to worry about too young of an OL. It’s going to be mix.
Kilgore was the Center for the PFF all star team of the week for week 17.
I think we miss Pouncey more than a lot of you do, but i also think he was here for at best this coming year only. The fact its been moved up, its not a big deal. We will have to lower some expectations because Pouncey is any drop in the hat replaceable as you guys are thinking about him being.
I don’t think that about him but sometimes you need change.
^
Sentimental stormtrooper
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/974341897513783297?s=21
It’s going to be exhausting to make an apocalypse now reference after every snap next season
naplesfan2010 says:
March 15, 2018 at 1:49 pm
Holy shit that was fast! Is Kilgore any good?
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How fast it was shows you that this isnt a shocker. Thy were planning around this already.
I just thought the same thing. What’s the deal with swapping 7th rd picks though? It seems kind of silly.
Yeah that does seem silly to me its almost like its a compulsive thing with these GM’s to have draft picks involved lol.
maybe cap shucks….
ROFLMAO!! Cap Shucks!
They are really in cap shucks now.
Kilgore has started the last 29 games for the Niners, or Miners as Piggy’s phone calls them.
gold can be mined
LOL
Piggy’s phone:
The Miners and Dalailamas are making a trade.
ghey
PFF
C DANIEL KILGORE, 87.5 OVERALL GRADE
In Kyle Shanahan’s system of outside zone running, the center’s run blocking ability is absolutely vital to the team’s overall success. Kilgore was great at using his athleticism to seal off the Bears’ interior defenders to open up lanes for his running backs. In addition to the team’s highest run-blocking grade, Kilgore did not allow a pressure on the day and finished with an 85.3 pass-blocking grade.
They couldn’t pass up swapping 7ths???
The whole thing is very perplexing! I don’t get it, either.
https://twitter.com/PFF_RyanSmith/status/974338281931444224
https://twitter.com/PFF_RyanSmith/status/974338281931444224
Do Larsen + Davis + Asiata = 1 starting Guard? Answer is yes and seems we have our O-Line for next year at least.
Draft a couple to compete and develop and have them ready when it’s time.
I think we can probably afford to to use one of the picks before round 5 on an guy who interchangeable at OG/C – but we are not going into the draft salivating for OL
I like your 7th rd pick better than mine. Can I have yours and I give you mine? It’s like children trading lunch. LOL
You dig gold. You don’t mine it, or that’s at least what my mama always told me.
I’ve never found any so that explains a lot
Well looking in the NYC sewers is not where it is.
wow sitton and kilgore are mobile LB hitters trappers and pullers … just what we want.
pouncey used to be able to do that, but last year he just kinda stood up and glared at ppl.
did we get Sitton….on the dock of the bay?
That’s just wrong…
🙂
Shake things up baby!
Pouncey…..see ya!
GO PHINS
LOL
Ha!