Defense? Check! Offense? Check! Now it’s time to take a look at our special teams unit. Returning for his 15th NFL season is long snapper John Denney. As any good Dolphins fan knows, this guy isn’t just hiking the ball, this guy hustles downfield on every punt and makes his shares of tackles too. The Dolphins as per usghe brought in “competition” for Denney, or more like insurance in the form of one LS Lucas Gravelle out of TCU. Gravelle was a 2018 UDFA.
Matt Haack will return as the punter, and just so Stanger knows, Haack will be wearing #2 this season, showing no respect to future ring of honor punter Brandon Fields. Or maybe he wears it out of respect and love for Fields, not sure. In the 7th RD, Miami most likely landed their starting place kicker in Jason Sanders out of New Mexico. Sanders has a very strong leg, and his kickoffs are always deep. His longest college FG was a 53 yarder, but in practice, he’s hit FG’s beyond 60 and close to 70. The Dolphins also brought in UDFA K Greg Joseph from FAU to provide some competition for Sanders. There are however also always a few veteran kickers waiting for a team to lose a K to injury, or just an outright cut due to poor performance. Matt Haack will continue to be the holder on FG’s.
With Jarvis Landry out of the picture, Jakeem Grant will take over the primary return duties on both punts and kickoffs. With all the changes, it’s hard to know whether the new return rules will be advantageous or not for the ultra fast Grant, but it seems to indicate that it might. With the kickoff team unable to get a running start, that should give the receiving team just a little more time to get up some speed after the catch. On the other hand, the new rule is that if the ball touches the end zone on a kickoff it will be ruled as a touchback, so if the ball bounces past the goal line on a kickoff, it is dead, and declared a touchback. Kenyan Drake will join Grant as the other returner on kickoffs, and at least at the moment, Senorise Perry is behind the aforementioned 2 on the return depth chart.
As far as players who will be counted on to be special teams aces is returning veteran CB/S Walt Aikens, LB Chase Allen, LB Mike Hull, veteran LB Terence Garvin who came over from Seattle, rookie LB Quentin Poling, CB Torry McTyer and possibly rookie CB’s Cornell Armstrong and Jalen Davis. I say possible, because we don’t know yet whether they will all be on the roster come final cuts.
Last year, the Dolphins had one of their best kicking performances in a while from veteran K Cody Parkey. The Dolphins chose not to allocate money towards a K and let Parker walk, so we all have to hope that move doesn’t come back to bite us in the ass. Young Jason Sanders has a tough act to follow after the excellence of Parkey. Last year, P Matt Haack had an OK year, he wasn’t great, he wasn’t poor either. Haack averaged 44.5 yards per punt, with a 40.7 net average
The big questions on special teams are as follows. Is Jakeem Grant ready for prime time, without Jarvis Landry to lean on in big spots? Is Jason Sanders going to get the job done well enough to keep his job through the preseason? Will Jason Sanders adequately replace the excellence of Cody Parkey? Will the new kickoff rules help us or hurt us? Stay tuned Dolphins fans, OTA’s are going on as you read this, so keep your eyes on the reports to see what’s happening.
2018 HulkFest Hotels – Hollywood Beach
The Neptune – Doggy, Toba, Son and their crews
Margaritaville – Mike E and Brian in NY and their crews
The Sheldon – Piggy
Finsmob Unleashed 
steveccnv says:
May 23, 2018 at 10:55 pm
Could be why your vision is uncloudy. You seem to be very well grounded.
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THANK YOU, sir. I appreciate that!
Tim Knight says:
May 23, 2018 at 10:56 pm
^ KaPOW!!!! Batman reference. LOL
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HELL YEAH!!!
It’s not junk, Piggy. I’m tired of being lumped in with white people like we all think the same because of the shade of our skin. It’s bullshit! When that shit stops I’ll shut up. I’m tired of it. The mainstream media is so bias with this issue that I want to scream. But I don’t because I respect my neighbors. 🙂
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You went off the board there a little. LOL
It’s my specialty, man! 😉
OD sorry about Lightning loss tonight.. there will be a 1st time winner of Lord Stanley’s Cup this year. Cinderella Golden Knights vs a deserving Ovechkin led Capitals team.. good luck to both i will not be angered by either team winning…
Btw … great write ups Mike E as Usghe .. very insightful and well covered on the three phases of the team.. i believe we will take a lot of people by surprise this year.. 13-3 is a distinct possibility.. Go Fins ..
Toba …
Dawggie wazzup
Aleve is what i use for muscle issues .. usually pop 2 prior to rigorous activity to help loosen up , no not that ya dirty little man .. although? They are little blue pills 🤔
I’m an ibuprofen man. Nothing else seems to do anything for me. Take 4 or 5 and i’m ready to rock.
I’m a “majority”. I grew up in a “minority” neighborhood where I was the only “majority”. I have my own experiences too.
It has been my experience that people who treat themselves and others with respect, publicly adhere to social norms, obey the law, and are generally nice people get accepted regardless of the color of their skin. On the other hand, those who use the color of their skin as an excuse for poor decisions, criminal activity, or generally uncivil behavior and call racism when they suffer the consequences of their actions are not accepted.
PHELON: Unfortunately, what you just said absolutely was NOT TRUE in south Florida during the late 50’s. Black people were still being beat-up, and occasionally murdered, just because they were black. I was once invited to a gathering of so-called “good Christian boys” who intended to go out on Saturday night to attack “blacks, queers, and other people who don’t belong here.” I politely declined. I had NEVER encountered such a thing during my early years living in Canada. And I was stunned that such thinking still existed. When I later found out that a local preacher was the leader of a local KKK chapter, I decided that certain religions in my part of Florida were fronts for racist behavior that I could not tolerate. My suspicions of organized religion have never gone away.
But, that said, I do financially support a small local church that my wife attends. THIS CHURCH accepts people of all colors and backgrounds. And it helps to feed the homeless, including those who are veterans.
WELL hats off to Washington fans. Their team beat the Lightning fair and square. Tampa Bay was only shut out ONCE during the regular season. But the Caps shut them out both in game 6 and game 7. They certainly deserved to win the series.
I’ll be rooting for Steve’s Golden Knights in the Finals!
Thanks
WE may have missed our opportunity to buy finals tickets. Being a future season ticket holder we get a small window to purchase playoff tickets, before it goes out to the general public. Tickets are now at $866.
OD – The 50’s were the cradle of the civil rights movement. And while there is still ignorance in the country, it has changed and continues to change. I grew up in central Florida, so you don’t need to tell me about the culture there. What I’m talking about is rioting over criminals being killed while resisting arrest and protesting the “social injustice” of paying the consequences of bad behavior. Not everything is racism. Being uncivilized and disrespectful have nothing to do with race.
Piggy was saying it nicely, let’s end this discussion.
Yes – Good idea
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Steve i told Ajayi how you’ve been crapping on him, lucky you didn’t stop in Ocala.
He got soft, after his breakout year, I could take him😀
Mike… Son is still playing with legos, if you need real construction advice i’m here for you bud.
Sonny knows his shit when it comes to carpentry. Appreciate the offer. I’m going to talk to the paving company, I think there should be a way to resolve that issue. Once they demolish the steps, it will much easier to assess the problem
Toba – Thanks man, appreciate it!
I want to talk about minorities,
I think Drake is a minority and Gore is the majority to start this year!
Drake and Gore are both minorities, but not in the NFL, I think they’re the majority
Lol
rotten wood should be removed, you may have to remove the door to get to it.
i’m not sure if i mentioned this but we need to run the ball effectively this year.
I don’t recall you ever saying that
well in that case………let me break out my notes!
Piggy was saying it nicely, let’s end this discussion.
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Agreed. Instead, let’s talk about Piggy’s typing skills. We may need to get him some 3D prosthetics for his trotters. The cloven hooves don’t appear to be suitable for iPhone typing.
You need to download the Piggs to English app
Lol…You may have something there.
I think home field advantage can get overhyped, but not when it comes to the Boston Celtics this year. In the playoffs they are 1-6 on the road and 10-0 at the Garden.
Wow I didn’t see the final score but two shutouts in a row by the Caps to make it to the Cup finals. That tells me the Lightning hit a wall after a long season. Or was it the Caps goalie playing lights out?
All I was saying last night is when some white racist asshole says or does something stupid, the narrative becomes white America and that’s BS. No group of people should be broad stroked because of the actions of a few. I’ll leave it at that.
Broad stroking is a sign of being a racist or at least seriously prejudiced.
Right, like when people say stuff like “they’re” all the same or that’s what “they” do. It’s ignorant.
Rockphin says:
May 23, 2018 at 9:44 pm
Note to self: do not sit on a cooler at the fest….
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Yeah if you do it will be your turn for someone to scream “Stand the fuck up!” to you.
M13, just saying. 😉
https://www.theepochtimes.com/uplift/shark-viciously-attacks-cage-full-of-first-time-divers-the-footage-they-capture-is-terrifying-to-see_2521506.html
That must have been terrifying. He wasn’t really close to death. If the cage broke, that would be a different story.
They have broken into cages before.
Be glad i wasnt in that cage, because i would have taken a cue from one of the masters of escape in the sea world and instanly inked the water. There is a strong possibility i might shove one of the other divers to the front as a snack to distract the shark from the rest of us as well.
I’m really taking a liking to Sitton already.
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Gase on Sitton — “You can see he’s a veteran player that has the type of swagger you want from an offensive lineman. He brings confidence with that group. He’s got something about him that’s probably different than a lot of guys that I’ve been around.”
Sitton on Gase’s comment — “What’s swagger? I don’t know about that one.”
So D, should we call you squid from now on? LOL
When it comes to sharks…yes.
Damn the Bills are down another WR. Zay Jones just had knee surgery.
The Bill WR corps right now is pretty much Kelvin Benjamin, though id give some credit to Robert Foster (one of their draft picks), for having potential to start and threaten our secondary. Benjamin is also coming off an injury himself so more and more it looks like if we can just figure out how to stop McCoy we will be in good shape against them. I think McCoy is also a lot easier to manage when you also arent having to watch for Taylor. McCarron, Allen, nor Peterman are scary to defenses to break off a run.
Isn’t Allen pretty good at moving around and running?
He’s mobile, like Tanny, but i dont think he is anywhere near the running threat Taylor is.
There was a chunk of their game plan they had last year that focused on Taylors ability to run and how that would set up McCoy, i dont think you will see much of that with any of those other QB’s.
Are there OTAs today?
I think so i think it was 3 days of OTA’s then a break then three more in about a week. It might not be open to the media though. I think yesterday was the only session this week open to the media.
Okay that’s what I thought.
Tyrod Taylor seemed to save his best for the Dolphins. He always played well against us.
Because we had no LBs
I feel pretty good with our chances against the Bills this year, especially if we have a healthy McMillan and Baker comes along well. A LB group with Baker, McMillan and Alonzo will be able to keep McCoy from getting outside much and i think the DT’s we have will do a good job of congesting the middle to prevent cutbacks and inside runs. We dont have a DT that’s going to penetrate like Suh did but i think they will do their job and keep those lanes contained.
Also Dark Richie won’t be opening holes anymore either
Also if we need to we can always bring TJ up and let him play shallow and assist run support and maybe Jones too and let Fitzpatrick play deep by himself.
This is why I won’t be doing this. LOL
Quit your whining Tim, the guy in the cage survived.😉
Once you’re feeling better, I want you to go do this and show us video proof. LOL
now that’s the kind of effort we need on 1st down!
Sign him up!
Tim Knight says:
May 24, 2018 at 11:40 am
Right, like when people say stuff like “they’re” all the same or that’s what “they” do. It’s ignorant.
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stereotyping, not good
Agreed. Entire groups of people can’t be viewed in one way because they are not all alike.
Updated bucket list for my next trip to Florida…
– Attend a Dolphins game in Miami
– Meet Dan Marino
– Meet the Mob
– Hit Miami Beach
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Cage-diving with great white sharksLOL!
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Tim’s 12:03 PM post today made up my mind! LOL
Nah really? LOL
Honestly, I’m tired of seeing articles devoted to the National Anthem, the protests, and players or anyone else’s opinions on it. I just want to hear about football. Why this has to be focused on the anthem, I just don’t understand.
Because thats the emotional pivot argument. Id say the most heated and emotional arguments you will find at the core are about something completely different and they are attaching themselves to other subjects that carry and even stronger emotional force behind them. Its a tactice when you want to be mad about someone doing one thing but you dont think people will side with you without it also being about
Incidentally, for this subject, thats being done on both sides of it.
being about “insert big important argument here”……was how that was supposed to end
It’s nauseating. The fact that many people don’t understand it’s a workplace rule and not about free speech drives me insane.
I worked for a company that on every Monday morning we stood around the conference room and each person discussed something positive both business and personal. It wasn’t an option to attend, it was required to be part of the team.
That’s the equivalent of a team meeting Tim
Not standing for the anthem
And we know players get in trouble for missing meetings
I don’t know many employers who play the anthem before work and make everyone partipate
I think that would be frowned up
It sounds like something the Cold War Soviet Union would do
It’s the company rule. If you no like, quit! When in uniform on the field for a game, you are at work in America. Your opinions about other stuff at that time do not matter. You’re just pissing people off.
Does anyone think kneeling for the anthem is what will change police brutality which is what the issue is about?
Ken says:
May 24, 2018 at 2:56 pm
Sign him up!
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I dont think sharks can play on the Dolphins….. probably in a rule book somewhere about having a mortal enemy on your team.
If Johnathan Martin and Dark Ritchie could be on the same team…oh wait a minute
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D – There are no protests during the anthem in any of the other major sports, although I suppose I could leave the NHL out because there are so few black players. The NBA on the other hand, which has more black players than the NFL does has no such issue. I have no problem with their viewpoint at all, and I truly think something needs to change, but there are other platforms to make this happen other than kneeling or standing in the locker room at a football game while the national Anthem is playing
What’s also making it worse is no solidarity on the rule. Some owners like the Jests owner is saying the team will pay for any fines incurred, which further exacerbates the issue. Everyone needs to be and stay on the same page and adhere to the rules.
I think many players do it just to be defiant and they have no passion about the issue and do nothing after they kneel. Kenny Stills and other NFL players off the field started to get the community together to discuss this issue including police. That’s how you do it. Kneeling will not solve a damn thing. It’s a faux proposition.
It’s weird that it was a unanimous vote but teams like the 49ers and jests have said some things that undermine their support publicly
It’s prett solid evidence that it’s just PR and the nfl owners want to save face and say “we tried”
Pig, yeah, I’ve been trying to figure that out too. I heard this morning that York (Niners owner) abstained form the vote, so I’m betting the Jest owner did too. It’s probably unanimous from owners that voted.
This whole measure is a giant mistake that will continue to keep this issue front and center and talked about.
Well abstaining from the vote is bullshit unless you don’t care about the result
The 49ers are not allowing concession purchases during the anthem from what I’ve heard. Basically they are saying you can’t do anything during the anthem
Agreed. What is the point of abstaining in this matter? What are you saying exactly? an what are you telling your base? It’s a cop out.
Im on the side of believing they should stand, because that’s my code of ethics and that’s how i believe the anthem should be treated. I believe that arguments of social injustice are best protested where the injustice happens, so to me protesting in the form of town hall discussion directly with the police and or protesting at the state or local government buildings makes more sens to me to affect a chance in your area with the police and their rules of engagement.
It did stir the pot though so was it effective, yes i believe it was, but i also think it came with a lot of negative push back that lessened the effectiveness of the protest. There is always give and take in these situations, whats enough to get the necessary attention but not too much to turn people off the cause, and i think the way this was done, and certainly the way it was started did not have the right balance of that.
Curious…
Tim Knight says:
May 24, 2018 at 2:57 pm
It’s nauseating. The fact that many people don’t understand it’s a workplace rule and not about free speech drives me insane.
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It drives me nuts too. The number of people that bring up the 1st amendment and free speech in regards to this issue is staggering. We the people are fucking morons that have no clue.
Et tu Morgan Freeman? Et tu?
Good comment, but not much meat to what has come out so far. Some lawyer got 8 women together to go after him and after reading my thought was…..”maybe should have told my co-workers they looked great in that dress.”
It’s pretty early on. So far it looks to have some legitimacy as he has already come out and apologized. Hopefully this isn’t a ‘tip of the iceberg’ thing.
I read an article based on the best the lawyer had based on the women he had patched together…..was underwhelming to me at least. And even if more might come up was nothing Cosby or Tiger about it. Best physical touching they had was a hand on the back. Lots about his stares and comments though.
Yeah, that is pretty much what I saw too. Definitely not in the Cosby realm.
Tim Knight says:
May 24, 2018 at 3:18 pm (Edit)
It’s the company rule. If you no like, quit! When in uniform on the field for a game, you are at work in America. Your opinions about other stuff at that time do not matter. You’re just pissing people off.
Does anyone think kneeling for the anthem is what will change police brutality which is what the issue is about?
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Tim – it’s a new rule
And the power of the league to make that rule would come under the CBA
They actually don’t have free reign to just make up rules
Either does your employer or my employer (immmynown employer but
You get the point)
I’m guessing there is a catch all in the CBA that allows some control over player conduct
But bc the cba was negotiated before this controversy there is no way it addressed this issue and so the catch all is broad and vague
And if it’s broad then that means it can be challenged in court effectively (kind of liken Brady)
It’s true that it’s not a 1st amendment issue bc it doesn’t invoke the government (albeit the source of the pressure is clearly from the highest member of the govt)
But in the private sector
When there is a contract in place that governs
That contract’s language is the issue
It’s very possible the nfl overstepped their rights under the cba – they’ve screwed that up before and we know it’s been the topic of litigation
And let’s not be naive about it. The nfl player relationship and options is much different than the average employee.
And yes
To answer your question
I think creating a controversy or even a silent protest without controversy (which is what it should have been) will bring attention to another controversy
And awareness is the first part in addressing any issue
This is what should be discussed. Does the league have the power to implement this rule in this manner. I believe the reason they made the decision to fine the team, and then leave it to the team to fine the player is specifically to get around the CBA issues. We’ll see how it plays out.
What we can be sure of, is this isn’t going away, and IMO the league poured fire on the issue instead of water.
They probably have some powers in the cba
But catch all stuff is always subject to challenges
The NFPLA will challenge the rule. That’s almost a guaranty. I’m sure the owners are prepared for that. I actually think the owners may not even want to win that battle – just show the public they tried
And throw in the fact two owners have already said they won’t implement it, or will pay the fines and not pass it on, and it starts to add up.
What you are saying makes a lot of sense that this is just so the owners can tell their “they should stand” customers that they tried to do what they could.
D says:
May 24, 2018 at 3:30 pm
Im on the side of believing they should stand, because that’s my code of ethics and that’s how i believe the anthem should be treated. I believe that arguments of social injustice are best protested where the injustice happens, so to me protesting in the form of town hall discussion directly with the police and or protesting at the state or local government buildings makes more sens to me to affect a chance in your area with the police and their rules of engagement.
It did stir the pot though so was it effective, yes i believe it was, but i also think it came with a lot of negative push back that lessened the effectiveness of the protest. There is always give and take in these situations, whats enough to get the necessary attention but not too much to turn people off the cause, and i think the way this was done, and certainly the way it was started did not have the right balance of that.
If an employee goes to work every morning and starts ranting about how the company and everyone a part of it sucks, do they really think they can’t be fired because of their first amendment rights? When did people forget there are rules in our society in many different forms? Some are just basic civil behavior and respect. There are consequences for being a douche. It’s called burning bridges.
Most employees in American are employees at will
So employers get free reign to fire them (provided they aren’t violating the law, discrimination laws and that sort of thing)
But the nfl players all belong to a union
And that union is a party to the cba
And the nfl has guidelines they must adhere to pursuant to the contract they signed
Tim Knight says:
May 24, 2018 at 3:35 pm (Edit)
If an employee goes to work every morning and starts ranting about how the company and everyone a part of it sucks, do they really think they can’t be fired
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Sounds like my entire office
LOL
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Piggy – It’s only a “new” rule, because players decided to protest during the anthem. Who ever thought it would be necessary to have a rule in the first place?
I know
And I agree
But that means it was never specifically stated in the cba
And vagueness in a contract is usually the source of ugly litigation
The reason there was vagueness is irrelevant to the fact that you can expect a fight about whether it’s permitted or not under the cba
Tim – I think we should call it the “Douche Rule” and there should be a DEA, Douche Enforcement Agency. lol
Piggy, for the record I think how the NFL went about this in recent days was stupid. To me much like states rights it should come from the owner of each team on what the conduct under our brand is. Then let the market speak on that decision. The Yankees for years not sure if it’s still intact, had a “clean shaven” rule. Not everything in life is laissez-faire.
I would have preferred it be more subject to free market idea too rather than a collective agreement between owners
But once the president said his .02 on the topic I think the nfl have to do it as a unit to avoid long term harm to the league
They also would have been better served squashing this a long time ago if they were going to make aninofmr rule like this – now it’s a mess
I guess at the end of the day, the nfl, fresh off the heals of a few controversies of what they can do in punishing players, know the risks they take
Bottom line is – I think they just bought litigation. If they think that’s worth the costs, so be it.
I’m going to watch the. Nfl either way
I was never a huge fan of boycotting based on this topic
I’m not going to boycott bc I don’t agree with the nfls latest position (which changes as the wind blows)
Okay back to football. This anthem subject annoys me and I find it to be silly. LOL
One thing we know is that McMillan is our MLB and though we haven’t seen him play yet, he seems to be very astute with the mental part of the game at such a young age 22. That’s pretty impressive.
Mike,
Lest say you worked for a business that had 0 rules about people named Mike working for them, and then one day, they just go, fuck it, no more Mikes and you lose your job, or they decide to fine you every day you keep the name Mike. Them creating a new rule without grandfathering you in or at least some sort of upfront notice of the rule change, nor input from you as to the fairness of this new rule, etc would be wrong wouldnt it? Also lets say your company is unionized and this new rule comes in affecting you an the other Mike’s that work there without some sort of mediation between the two groups to approve the new rule or find a compramise?
Thats kind of what Piggy is saying about they cant really do that. I see ways they can sneak around it, like they could just have the teams put it in their handbook which is a set of rules that can and does change yearly. There would be no leg to stand on there, as long as the team was hading out the fines. The NFL handing out the fines to a player is also a little outside what they should be able to do in this situation, as there was no NFLPA involvement in the decision and thats usually part of what is agrred upon in the CBA sessions. So i pretty much agree that from a legal standpoint, this really doesnt seem legit, at least not done the way it was rumored to be getting done.
D – C’mon man, you’re a smart guy, but that’s an awful analogy. There can’t be rules for everything, until something gets out of hand, and causes new rules to be enforced. That’s what happened here. The rule itself isn’t really ridiculous that there should be no protests during the national anthem, it’s the NEED for the rule that’s ridiculous. It’s like I bet there’s no specific rule in the DMV regarding people lighting off farts in their cars, but if people’s cars starting exploding all over the place, there would be a rule to prevent it.
What about Piggys lighting off farts in their Jeeps?
Not covered in the DMV, but maybe it should be. 🙂
I’m just waiting for Pig to find the picture to go with it………………
Best I can do
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On a lighter #Dolphins Tannehill note: Asked Ryan about the new Tattoo on his right bicep, it’s a Laurel wreath dedicated to his wife. I followed up joking about potentially getting a Yanni tattoo on the left bicep. He didn’t get the joke… oh well 🙄@NBC6Sports @nbc6 https://t.co/1H8NhjU40Q
That’s a good sign….hes not scrolling social media. Hes locked in and getting ready to start the season
He’s a family man focused on rehab and getting back to football. Not all the outside noise.
D – BTW – My company enacts bullshit rules all the time. We used to all have $50,000 life insurance, and then one day they decided “fuck it” we’re taking that away, and it’s gone. There are a bunch of other ones they did, but people always have a choice to stay and deal with it, or leave.
The smart folks in my old work place were the ones always checking out what else was out there. Some of them left and some of them got more money/package when the next contract time came. And didn’t blame the ones who said “leaving for a better spot” one bit….not like employers don’t fire or layoff without warning either.
So did my own firm
But that employment at will
Bookman – You know he’s gonna find it, there is a pig pic for everything
I cant fire people because I cant hire. It’s insane….employees don’t give a shit, because they can go across the street and get hired. Everyone is hiring and nobody is applying for jobs.
We are closed 2 days a week because we cant staff. I work everyday as well.
Unemployment is 2%…..thanks Trump! Lol
From a cold hard stance — my best advice is to pay a bit more than average (gets people in the door) but be willing to let go whoever isn’t above average. You’ll end up with a more efficient place at least….starting with you offer more the better people will show up.
Piggy, I’m not familiar with the term employment at will, but are NFL players not considered employed at will?
Never mind, I caught your union post. There have to be mitigating circumstances when a rule needs to be put into effect, and I think the protests were an excellent reason for a new rule.
Well it depends what the contract says
I mean that’s the point of a contract. Parties are free to negotiate their rights.
This is actually a unique situation. Owners and Players both have a lot of $. In terms of means to negotiate a fair deal – they both have every ability to explicitly state what they want ina contract, particularly things that might come up
Now it would have been impossible to say “kneeling” then or anything about that anthem. But I’m sure there is general stuff about the powers to make rules concerning conduct
My point is – if we were talking about kneeling or bobbing for apples or whatever, the fact that it’s not explicitly discussed in the cba, opens the door for a challenge by the nfpla
And the nfl and nfpla hate each other lately
They have a really bad relationship
So I expect this to be an issue that isn’t finished today or anytime soon
No they aren’t
Employment at will is a general term that represents the vast majority in America
Basically there is no contract or employment agreement
And no restrictions on hiring or firing
Nfl players are in a union
And they have a contract as well
Which is a weird combo
They aren’t employment at will
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment
Wiki says it’s a contractual relationship
But it’s not really I just think they were trying to explain it as being a substitute for a contract
If there is a collective bargaining agreement, you are not employment at will
It makes more sense if you are talking about a union laborer who has to be fired “for cause” bc we all know an nfl plyer can be waived
But the reason I mention the term is bc – it’s not a free for all with employees under a CBA and that doesn’t end with hiring/firing, thatbinckudes the rules that govern their behavior
Let’s see what did I miss since noon…anthem, anthem, I see nothing.
It’s as simple as a player has a legal right not to stand, which means they cant be put in jail. The employer has the right to fire based on conduct detrimental to the business.
^^^
Where you guys on the road trip now?
Birmingham
steveccnv says:
May 24, 2018 at 4:55 pm
Birmingham
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Go eat at Texas de Brazil while you are there, its deliious.
You guys going Bayou country after that……..man what great food.
That’s why poor Colin is no longer on a team. Conduct detrimental to the business.
It baffles me that people can’t understand why teams don’t want their QBs to be rebels and focused on other things other than football.
This isn’t about Bill Parcells in Miami as czar, but as a great HC. I agree with his list. #2 and #11 pertain to Colin K.
https://billyliggett.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/bill-parcells-11-quarterback-commandments/
Not sure if I’m reading this right but
They can’t be jailed for not standing
That would violate the 1st amendment
The nfl has no jurisdiction to say what is a crime or not
No private company does
So it’s not a rule that ends up being an end around to the things that were expected under the cba in terms of player conduct
You’re not reading it correctly, go read it again.
The Flying Pig says:
May 24, 2018 at 3:21 pm
Well abstaining from the vote is bullshit unless you don’t care about the result…
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Absolutely agreed. Now I don’t want to get political, but how many times did then Senator 0bama abstain from voting with a “not present” designation? It’s STAGGERING.
Back to football and to your point… you’re EXACTLY correct.
You don’t mean as president do you?
No, I’m talking about then SENATOR 0bama of Chicago.
I really don’t want to take this convo into politics, rather I wanted to cite a prime example of what you’re speaking of regarding the NFL’s non-voting owners.
Well if you have no dog in a fight it makes sense
I don’t really know what occurred but you are talking about prior to 2008, so I can’t speculate from my memory
The Herald has a nice article on Xavien Howard becoming a #1 CB. He said the coaches having the confidence in him, allowing him to play press and put his hands on the receivers is what changed for him the last 6 weeks.
Future star.
Hope so – He came on nicely at the end of last season
Stanger
That’s exactly what we do. Our dishwashers make $15/hr…..
The goal is to always recycle the bottom 20%….
Hard to do anymore
Lots of my friends in high school were dishwashers, but seems the kids don’t want that kinda of job anymore. Lots of immigrants want those jobs…..but seems Trump doesn’t want them to have them. We can put up the that wall, but the cost is more than just building it.
We got snubbed!!! SMH
We lost Suh therefore we suck because nobody else can play. Okay… we’ll see. 🙂
I actually think it’s fair not to rank us high now. Mid season we’ll be in the top 8.
I don’t care about these rankings as you know. Just having some fun.
Nobody is going to jail for not standing for the anthem or sub par production at their job. This topic gets so crazy like every other one. LOL
That’s what I said did the word simple confuse you guys?
Our defense doesn’t have a lot of experience together as most defenders on the team are from 2016 on, and a lot of them are young guys the last couple of years. Only 6 defenders remain since before Gase got here.
Can you name them?
Wake, Phillips, Jones, Lippett, McClain, Hull
maybe?
Good job! Hull has been here since 2015 and I thought of that after posting. He’s considered 3 years because he was PS as a rook. The other is Walt Aikens.
On a different note
And a patriotic note
I will be doing “Murph” on Monday, Memorial Day
If you don’t know what “Murph” is
It’s a cross for workout
One of the hard one
Named after a Navy Seal Michael Murphy who died in Afghanistan
It’s his workout and it’s fucking crazy
You run 1 mile
Than you do 100 pull ups, 200 push ups and 300 air squats
Than you run another mile
He craziest thing is he used to to it with a weighted vest and probably in under 30 mins or around there
I won’t touch a weighted vest
And it will probably take me 90 minutes to complete it
But I’m going to try
https://www.google.com/amp/s/btwb.blog/2018/05/11/memorial-day-murph-who-what-why/amp/
How many of those air squats are going to be Piggy farts?
300
LMAO!
Don’t laugh
I really have to be careful what I eat before I do it
Howard also realized he can’t just go play and be athletic at this level. He said he has to watch film and work on the finer points of his game. He admits struggling at times his first few years.
He looks the part. It’s up to him how high he takes it. My favorite thing about him is he does not shy away from contact and tackling. Hits like a safety. Hone those coverage skills and you have a complete top corner.
Anybody else catch the Xavien Howard interview today? Listen to it or read the transcript. He specifically stated that he started to BALL down the stretch last year, once he (and the team as a whole) was permitted to play man-to-man instead this soft-zone BS we’ve seen over the last several years.
And I can STILL remember Omar stating last year that there was NOTHING to playing zone vs man, AFTER Xavien’s breakout late last year… SMMFH. You DON’T draft ‘jammers’, only to play them in zone coverage. Anybody remember me saying this for the 10000th time then, and again now? YES… Xavien agrees. Play to your strengths and what one was drafted to be… I’m growing TIRED of the dysfunction in our FO to the coaching staff.
Matt Burke had BETTER have figured this matter out by now, or it’s going to be another LONG season on the Defensive side of the ball.
Didn’t this show that Matt Burke figured it out? It wouldn’t have happened if he didn’t.
You have to remember, we don’t see how young players react to situations and how much they have taken in. What you see being played is not always the preference to what the coaches really want to do. Sometimes it’s how best they think we can win the game. Maybe Howard wasn’t ready from day one. That’s not surprising.
We have a lot of rook to 4th year players who need to change the talent level of this team. That’s what I’m excited about. We know what the vets are, it’s these guys who will change the dynamic of this team.
You can play press and then fall back to zone coverage, thats the way Seattle did it most of the time. To your point though, a man Cb and a zone CB are extremely different, and need different high level attributes to make them great.
Zone CB need to be really football smart and need really good burst speed so they can settle into their zone, read the QB and jump the route.
A man CB needs to be practically a receiver, similar ability to accelerate while making breaks, decent burst speed but really good straight line speed and be able to run ever route tree a WR can since they have to mirror their cuts and speed and stay glued to them.
Press really isnt a coverage its an attribute of the other two coverage types, and it includes a physicality and basic difference in how they line u, ie directly across the line from the receiver instead of 5 steps back, etc. They generally need to be bigger with good closing speed because they are going to jam the, usually smaller receiver and then likely have to play a little catch up if they are in press-man.In press-zone they have to be able to bump the receiver and get back to their zone before a receiver does, so in both speed is a good attribute to have but not quite as important as true man coverage.
Good stuff, D. This was touched on by that show Sam Madison does while driving around with a player. I saw one with Howard and they discussed both being 4.5 corners – how do you cover those 4.3 guys? Knock them off their route and be physical with them. It is more mentality than a coverage. It’s trench warfare then a sprint to a spot.
Sam Madison has really good insight into how secondaries work. He was a really instinctive and smart player. Was never the same after hurting his shoulder making a tackle. He played softer.
D says:
May 24, 2018 at 5:29 pm
steveccnv says:
May 24, 2018 at 4:55 pm
Birmingham
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Go eat at Texas de Brazil while you are there, its delicious.
THey have one of those in Birmingham?
Isn’t that the meat place with the red and green lights?
Yeah its a Brazilian restaurant with the gouchos that come around with the different cuts of meat to your tables. All you can eat. The fresh bar is pretty amazing too, lots of meats, cheeses, vegetables, pasta dishes, etc that you can eat, but the star of the show is some delicious cow.
Yes cows are jerks
Eat them in quantity
You go Piggy on doing the murph
It’s actually my third time doing it
I’m pretty sure I’m more out of shape now than ever
My first time I did it in under an hour
By my second time was like 1:20 or something that was basically last place
You will be ready just drink more beer 🍺
Tim Knight says:
May 24, 2018 at 5:33 pm
Didn’t this show that Matt Burke figured it out? It wouldn’t have happened if he didn’t…
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Excellent point. I DO think he’s figured it out, or at least I hope!
I will never understand why we played our JAM CBs so far off the ball. I mean, why even draft JAM CBs, then… it never made sense!
And if we’re going to be aggressive with our DF7, that dictates that the QB needs to get rid of the ball very quickly… so why give ANY receiver a cushion? Do ya know what I’m sayin’?!! 🙂
I hear ya and that makes sense. Of course you mix it up sometimes, but I think this is how the team wants to play and it hasn’t really gotten there on both sides of the ball. Gase knew it and changed a lot of coaches and players. It’s on him.
Enter the Swiss Army Knife selected at #11. I see us playing more dime this year because of our secondary personnel. Maybe some 3-2-6 versions as opposed to all 4-1-6. When most teams play with 3 WR, a pass catching TE and the same at RB, you need to be in coverage. Back in the day it used to be play the run and react to the pass. It’s reversed now a lot of the time.
Obviously if a team is a physical more standard type offense you might be in base and nickel most of the time. But it’s good to have personnel to play all styles. On paper things look good, just not much tape with this team.
You guys really want to laugh
I just did a Crossfit competition in a team of 4
And my team (and we are all a little older than the 20 somethings we were competing against) named ourselves “average joe’s”
And we had the tishirts like in dodgeball
So we knew we would suck
But we had no idea how much we would suck
There were 16 teams
There were 4 events
We finished 16th overall
16th in the 1st event
16th on the 2nd event
15th on the 3rd event
And 16th in the 4th event
On the 3rd event, a machine one team was using broke. So we beat them on that event.
and that was with them running backwards without shoes on wasnt it.
Probably
We did spend a lot of time in zone and off man early on and they did use more press later in the sason, both out of zone and man
Yup!
We used a mixture of both a lot. One perimeter corner in press, the other side off man. But that’s not alway zone. Sometimes off man is still that’s your man and follow him. Zone is let the routes come to your zone. We didn’t do that as much as perceived.
Our problem was lots of newbees both FA vets and young guys with no chemistry. That has to get cleaned up and I think it will this year. The talent is there. I really feel Fitzpatrick is going to change the dynamic of our defense.
The Flying Pig says:
May 24, 2018 at 5:31 pm
THey have one of those in Birmingham?
Isn’t that the meat place with the red and green lights?
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Was There Friday Night in Birmingham, stayed at the Westin Hotel and it was right across the street, freak’n ate way too much!
I got the meat sweats last time i went there i piled in in so hard.
Its maybe 3.5 to 4 hours for me to go there from here, and i have made the trip just to eat there before lol.
IMO Howard has a really good physical makeup for press-man and he seems to learn fast so he will probably be really solid with the press zone formations too as he matures. He looked really solid out there last year, it looks like the game has slowed down for him some and he looked really confidant and comfortable too. I think he will wind up being a pretty good Cb for us, i just hope we are able to keep him because if he hits his potential he probably will be very expensive to keep.
If he has the season this year the team believes he’s capable of, we’ll sign him to a lucrative extension before he becomes a UFA in 2020.
Any of you Jersey guys ever hear of these guys? They are NICE!!!
The Flying Pig says:
May 24, 2018 at 5:40 pm (Edit)
You guys really want to laugh
I just did a Crossfit competition in a team of 4
And my team (and we are all a little older than the 20 somethings we were competing against) named ourselves “average joe’s”
And we had the tishirts like in dodgeball
Add this to your shirts
#we’renumberoneinouragecategory
😊
I don’t really know what occurred but you are talking about prior to 2008, so I can’t speculate from my memory
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It is a well known fact that pigs have terrible short term memories. After eight years their brains wipe themselves and they start all over.
does Anyone remember who this guy is?^^^
He just showed up on the blog today. Never saw him before…
Texas DE Brazil I believe is in Vegas too, we have Like 5 different Brazil steak houses.
All I’ve done is eat on this trip.
Where are you guys off to next? you are getting into Delta and Bayou country (what awesome food) and even if you keep traveling fast is some of the best BBQ there is.
The Flying Pig says:
May 24, 2018 at 5:30 pm
Don’t laugh
I really have to be careful what I eat before I do it
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LMAO!!!
Honestly the farts give you a little extra burst to get you through it
D – We went to the Texas De Brasil in Aruba – I didn’t like it at all. I think it could have been because it was in Aruba, not on the mainland.
I liked the concept, just not the execution. Everything was way too salty.
Yeah that hasnt been my experience in the states. I have been to the one in Birmingham a few times and the one in Baton Rouge a couple times too. there are a few of them in South Fla., and like Steve said Vegas has one as well.
Salt is the best way to preserve bad meat. I have had 50/50 experiences with those Brazilian meat deals. Not a fan.
We have a great one down here called Chima. So long as you like meat….couldn’t imagine not liking. Unless you are thinking the wife didn’t get enough out of the all you can eat price.
There is another Brazilian place in Pensacola, and its cheaper but its also not as good. I was kind of disappointed in it.
Just looked it up its called Rodizio
Another place i almost hurt myself eating was this place at the casinos in Biloxi. They have an all you can eat King Crab buffet, and its delicious. Im always skeptical of buffet quality, but this crab is really good, really big legs, high quality, very expensive, but id probably be a lot more nervous about it if it wasn’t. I saw a old person in one of those little rascal scooters after i had walked out of the restaurant and if i could have mustered the energy to catch them i would have “borrowed” that scooter to get back to my car. I have eaten there since without incident but that first time i went spent the next few hours regretting being so gluttonous.
are the meat sweats anything like when you walk by a sausage factory?
Its when you load up on meat until you are so uncomfortably full that you begin sweating lol
“”Meat sweats” is the mysterious condition whereby, after ingesting a generous helping of meat, you begin to sweat like a fat man in a cake shop. First identified by competitive eaters, for whom the malady is an occupational hazard, the meat sweats are thought to be caused by the combination of adrenaline and protein.”
Im sure it makes you sweat walking by a sausage factory….
Steve did you go to Baton Rouge yet? If not save some space in your stomach, great food city.
New Orleans has Fogo De Chao and i have heard its pretty great. I still haven’t gone there because New Orleans is loaded with awesome restaurants so its hard to choose between them all. They have several others but i think Fogo is the better one. They have a few others that are really authentic Brazilian dishes, but dont really offer the buffet that most the chain ones are known for.
Red Fish Grill is my favorite. Will take it over Acme Oyster in a second. Just talking French quarter, but that is where everyone ends up anyhow.
Dickie Brennan’s is a really good steak place and you can get cigars there as well. Not overly pricey, can get something under 50 a plate. Last time i was there i had about as perfect a NY Strip as you can possibly have topped with King Crab, and i think my meal was just over 50. There is an endless number of places to go there, so i dont even want to get started on the places i love there because if you guys think my normal posts are long, you would be shocked if i named off all the places i love in New Orleans and the different dishes they have that are good. Lets just say when i live in Baton Rouge for a little while, i probably ate more in New Orleans restaurants than i did in Baton Rouge ones and Baton Rouge has better food than almost any place i have visited or lived at, outside of New Orleans.
Don’t think it matters New Orleans or (am assuming since haven’t been there) Baton Rouge….a bad place there is good. Folks love their food and it shows.
D says:
May 24, 2018 at 6:55 pm
Steve did you go to Baton Rouge yet? If not save some space in your stomach, great food city.
We did Baton Rouge years ago.
I love my churrasco places, but you know how they say American chinese food is not the same as chines food in china (and same goes for mexican)? Was at a Brazilian steak place in Brazil over the holidays….and was was nothing like the ones here. Was pretty cool, but more like high-end Golden Coral with sushi and a bunch of other stuff even though they came with meat to the table. Was a chain too…..but turned out only like 5 in Brazil (where they started) and like 30 in other countries where they do it like us gringos are used too.
D says:
May 24, 2018 at 10:54 am
Rockphin says:
May 23, 2018 at 9:44 pm
Note to self: do not sit on a cooler at the fest….
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Yeah if you do it will be your turn for someone to scream “Stand the fuck up!” to you.
LOL.
It is “Stand the fuck up and make some noise!!! wooooooooo hooooooooooo GO DOLPHINS!!! DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!”
Get it right. 😉
Suh was very good at penetrating the backfield. he just didn’t do much once he got through. Not enough impactful things anyway. he was tied for 62 in the league for tackles for a loss last season. he was eighth in eligible DT’s.
4 Cameron Heyward Pittsburgh Steelers DT 17
9 Aaron Donald Los Angeles Rams DT 16
11 Grady Jarrett Atlanta Falcons DT 15
21 Gerald McCoy Tampa Bay Buccaneers DT 13
21 Jurrell Casey Tennessee Titans DT 13
47 Geno Atkins Cincinnati Bengals DT 10
62 Tim Jernigan Philadelphia Eagles DT 9
62 Ndamukong Suh Miami Dolphins DT 9
82 Michael Brockers Los Angeles Rams DT 8
82 Mike Daniels Green Bay Packers DT 8
82 Kawann Short Carolina Panthers DT 8
94 Tenny Palepoi Los Angeles Chargers DT 7
FUNK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
My son will LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
If I was Burke, my base formation would be the hybrid nickel. I would start TJ, Jones and Minkah all at the same time. TJ and Jones are valuable players that could become elite players, with the right formation. Allowing them to play close to the line of scrimmage will allow them to play a shorter amount of time. A wise man once said, “The best secondary, is the one that plays the shortest amount of time.” (Bill Parcells) Jones and TJ shouldn’t be running north and south on the field – they are best suited for sideline to sideline.
Minkah will allow those two players to do that, by playing the money position (termed by Saban) or the Robber (termed by Nolan), the Dolphins, in my eyes, will look to employ a two-drop safety net with a Robber in the middle of the field. Which will then allow all players to play at their best position and make a difference on the field. We will see TJ and Jones still running with Running Back and Tight Ends, but the Robber will provide over the top help.
I doubt that Burke will actually be that bold and start all three players and become the first DC implement a hybrid outside the base 3-4 or 4-3 sets. It’s a bold move, one where you are starting your best athletes regardless of position, that would make all other teams curious, right? Isn’t that what a first-round pick should bring to a team – A sense of curiosity?
https://phinphanatic.com/2018/05/24/curious-case-minkah-fitzpatrick/
Mike E. says:
May 24, 2018 at 3:42 pm
Tim – I think we should call it the “Douche Rule”
mikee, they already had the “douche rule” I believe the rule read “If a quarterback loses possession of a ball while bringing it forward in a passing motion, it is considered an incomplete pass.” It was amended by The Tuck Rule which extended that to circumstances wherein “the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body.”
True that!
MF13
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/feb/08/sarah-palin/palin-says-obama-voted-present-us-senate-very-ofte/
Just thought you might be open to “alternate facts”
LMAO!!!
Obama voted present 3% in the Illinois Senate. This was a “usual” amount for the minority or “less than average” number within his caucus. He voted on 97% of the bills.
He never voted present as a US Senator.
Sarah Palin quit as governor when things got tough.
I’ve never been to Texas de Brazil, but I once dated a Texan chic who got Brazilian waxes…….
Sigh,
just sigh
I once dated a Jamaican girl. But after a little while, she decided to become a nun.
We have 2 Peruvian and a Martin Fierro Argentine restaurants here and Estero has a Rodizio, although i haven’t been to that one yet. I enjoyed the flavors and huge portions at Fierro’s
I never found much good food in Tallahassee.
or Pensacola. But I love eating in Mobile.
There was a really good Lesbian brunch place out on Blair Stone Road.
oops that is in Tallytown
Mobile has about 6 awesome seafood restaurants on the causeway crossing the Bay.
THAT STORM BREWING in the Gulf of Mexico is playing havoc with the Conference USA baseball tournament (in Biloxi). The forecast for this weekend is horrid, and the tournament is already a full day behind schedule. Most experts see Southern Miss, FAU and Louisiana Tech advancing onto the NCAA tournament. However, it looks like the C-USA tourney may not be finished by the time the top teams have to go to the NCAA’s. I’ve never heard of a conference tournament getting cancelled, but it could happen this time.
Ah, mother nature! Maybe some day most of the NCAA baseball playoffs will be played at indoor stadiums since June, traditionally, is one of the wettest months of the year in the southern states.
THE WEATHER CHANELL is predicting either a 90% or a 100% chance of rain here in the northern suburbs of Tampa for the next FIVE DAYS. Oh, well, guess I’ll just have to spend more time indoors Mrs. OD over the Memorial Day weekend. Let me take this opportunity to wish everyone, especially my fellow veterans, a thoughtful weekend of remembrance in honor of those who gave everything for their country.
That’s “with Mrs. OD.” –Damn senior moments!
watching NFL network this morning and the guys on set keep saying “he was dropping dimes” blah blah blah “yeah, he is out their dropping dimes”
When did this become a saying? when I was coming up to drop a dime on someone was a bad thing. It was “ratting them out” if you dropped a dime on someone you got an ass beating or worse. when did it become a good thing in foot ball?
It came over from basketball, somehow it means assist, still doesn’t make sense, but whoever said sports reporters were the geniuses.
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GMFB stat this morning. the last 10 QB’s taken #1 overall have lost their first game in the NFL
well good morning football, their teams were picking #1 overall for a reason….