Miami Dolphins and the offseason QB puzzle

One piece of the puzzle was filled yesterday with the Denver Broncos trading for Baltimore Ravens QB Joe Flacco. The Ravens will receive a 2019 4th RD pick from the Broncos in exchange for Joe Flacco. If the Dolphins truly do intend to move on from QB Ryan Tannehill, they will first look to trade him, and now with Flacco traded for a 4th RD pick, the market has been set. The Dolphins probably wouldn’t get a 4th RD pick for the oft injured QB, but a 5th isn’t out of the question.

The bigger question is, what are the Dolphins intentions going into free agency, and then the draft? There are quite a few QB’s available that are average or below average, but there’s only one out there that that’s young-ish, that has potential to be more than average, and that’s 27YO Teddy Bridgewater. Nick Foles is not a FA, and the Eagles still have potential to franchise tag Foles, in order to be able to trade him. There is some controversy regarding that, and it’s understandable. Foles had a buyout clause in his contract, which was a hefty $20 contract, the buyout being Foles would have to pay the Eagles $2M to become a free agent. Considering the fact that the $2M should buy his fredom, it doesn’t seem fair that the Eagles should then be able to restrict his freedom by tagging him. We’ll see how this plays out.

Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Case Keenum and Josh McCown are all QB’s I’d say for all intents and purposes are about equal to Ryan Tannehill. In my mind, it would make no sense to pay Tannehill $13.24M, and then turn around and give another $8-10M to one of the aforementioned QB’s. The only QB that could make sense is Bridgewater, if the organization felt like they make Bridgewater into a playoff caliber QB, and Bridgewater can make us a playoff caliber team. I don’t think he can, and I wouldn’t go that direction. I don’t think we need a bridge QB, we have 2 young QB’s on the roster, and I hope to have a 3rd after the draft.

Luke Falk, Jake Rudock, and whichever QB we snare in the draft. Let’s face it, we need a great QB here if we want to elevate this team. None of the guys in the previous paragraph are taking us there. Don’t waste time and money, draft the right QB, and run with him! Start the process now! We can draft another QB in 2020 if this QB looks like a dog, but hopefully that’s not the case. How many young QB’s do we see play every season? At least 4 or 5. Let’s be one of those teams. Just because Tannehill didn’t pan out, that’s not a reason to avoid drafting a QB, it’s the biggest reaso to go ahead and do it!

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1,689 Responses to Miami Dolphins and the offseason QB puzzle

  1. D's avatar D says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    February 22, 2019 at 3:55 pm

    Honestly I think they way you stop an activity is to crack down on that activity directly

    rather than cracking down on things you think are related to that activity
    so if you want to sop human trafficking, zero in on that, not prostitution

    if you want to stop meth, zero in on that
    not marijuana

    I don’t understand criminalization of generilzations rather than criminalization of a specific act.
    I can go on and on this subject, but some is more controversial than others so I will stop
    ———————————————–
    I think thats exactly what im saying, they aren’t the same activity so you cant legalize one activity and eliminate the market for the other. I completely agree with you cracking down specifically on a certain thing, i just dont think ya’lls logic on legalizing prostitution has any bearing on the subject of trafficking and that was the premise of the argument at least how it started.

  2. D's avatar D says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    February 22, 2019 at 4:10 pm

    I don’t think its just optimism
    its effective in some places
    you will never eliminate it – but you can combat it by focusing on it instead of addressing it with a broad stroke
    ——————————————-
    Like gun control?

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Oh boy – why don’t you just pick the most controversial topic…lol

      • D's avatar D says:

        I pretty much agree with what you and Tim said i just see no relationship between legalizing pot and that fixing the problem with meth or prostitution fixing trafficking.

        Logistically sex with a woman ya met at a bar is just a really cheap form of prostitution, you bought her something she wanted and there is a possibility that due to that agreement that the guy will get sex. The only real difference is there are more guarantees with prostitution, there is more money involved (but far less than there is with a marriage lol), and one has no regrets afterwards because there isnt anyone trying to suggest there were amendments to the contract made before the terms of the contract were settled.

        A person having sex with another person for gift, or cash, is done in legals ways all the time, some call it marriage, or dating, and some call it prostitution. So i could see that being made legal.

        Just like i pretty much agree on legalization of pot, though i would like to put the same restriction on it as cigarettes, no sale to under 18 year olds. I would rather kids have a chance to make a adult decision on the rest of their life before getting messed up with all that. I might be a hypocrite for saying that because of my past, but as a father that is how i feel about it now.

  3. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Legalize it. Drugs are a health problem, not a criminal one.

  4. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

  5. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Green countries are ones where prostitution is full legal. Yellow where only in part (which includes US cause of Nevada).

  6. Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

    Yard Cigars, Pimps & Hoe’s.. Fun Friday topics !!

  7. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    February 22, 2019 at 4:00 pm

    I don’t really think its a pipe dream

    Yeah different areas have different morals
    and each area has to represent its own residents and interests

    but in some cases, depending on the activity, there is uniformity

    its illegal to suppress speech in every jurisdiction, bc we have a 1st amendment that prevents it

    Not that I think this is the right place for a constitutional amendment – just saying, there are ways to make sure multiple jurisdictions are on the same page to crack down on the same conduct
    ——————————————————

    Pig,

    You’re talking the uniformity in our basic tenants of freedom vs trying to find uniformity in zoning codes, planning and building codes for cities, states, and counties.

    That is a major part of the problem with human trafficking, at least at the local level with prostitution (or the end product, if you will).

    The way we, at this level, have to attack it is through local regulation, unless you can come up with a federal or state planning regulation that can be uniformly implemented (that is the pipe dream).

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Our most effective tactics have been in using planning and zoning regulation to limit the proliferation of massage parlors, and to impose land use penalties on parcel owners.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      I should also clarify, it’s not some sort of jurisdictional dick swaggering that goes on here. We often have joint tactical operations, and on this issue many departments and jurisdictions work together. It’s about what we can do in different territories and what we have at our disposal.

      Prostitution and itinerant food vendors receive a lot of attention and joint support.

      • D's avatar D says:

        So where you are its all about the ho’s and food trucks? Maybe someone should get smart and combine that stuff, make an “all you can eat fish tacos” food truck

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        LOL, there’s the business model.

        It’s kinda funny that those two things go together (at least in the sense of cities and counties working together), but they do. We would ticket a vendor, and he/she would literally hop across the street (out of county and into city), and set up shop again. So we got smart and started getting both agencies together, and then hop across the street ourselves and ticket again.

  8. D's avatar D says:

    Canada is in green, but i have known that shit for a while. I have never met a Canadian woman i haven’t slept with, but can ya really call it legal prostitution when there was no money involved with the transaction? Seriously though, i dont know why you have to pay for it in Canada, those girls are more aggressive sexually than most any guy i know.

  9. D's avatar D says:

    Didnt realize all of europe is legal, i thought it was just certain spots there. I would have expected it to be yellow too.

  10. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    February 22, 2019 at 3:55 pm
    Honestly I think they way you stop an activity is to crack down on that activity directly

    No, the way you curb an activity is to have the parents of those people participating in that activity come out and say it is cool to do. Want a generation of teenagers to stop smoking? Have their parents say look how cool this is. It will immediately become unpopular! LOL

  11. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Damn, I really want to get into this discussion, but I have to check out soon. Let me say that the Damn Dirty Ape (who remembers something I wrote a long time ago!) is spot on. I teach (or taught – haven’t done it in awhile) human trafficking to international security audiences. Prostitution and trafficking don’t always correlate, but often they do. And legalizing prostitution won’t eliminate the black market for human trafficking. Regarding Pigs desire to legalize drugs, while there is an element of libertarianism, drug use – even legal – contributes an increase in both property and violent crime. Then there is the societal cost of addiction. Now if you are going to let junkies ODing die instead of popping them with Narcan, some of that becomes self-eliminating, but otherwise there is a fiscal cost. Back later.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      What kind of drugs lead to an increase in violent crime

      I find it hard to beleive that marijuana is as likely to lead to eating someone’s face off like a zombie as sniffing battery acid is

      This is exactly the kind of generalization I loathe

      People rob each other in crack deals not when they smoke a joint togther

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      LOL, I usually remember what you pesky little humans say or write when it is meaningful or insightful.

  12. D's avatar D says:

    What i find the most funny about this convo is that it started by talking abotu Robert Kraft lol

  13. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    IMO if drinking alcohol is legal then marijuana should be legal as well. I really don’t see a difference.

  14. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I really have to quit the convo and get some work done. I appreciate the good conversation today and respect the differing points of view. Cheers, guys!

  15. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    One big bonus to legalizing it (like Europe) is you can require tests for stds
    That’s a huge public health benefit as well

  16. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Starting to wonder if Paul Pierce is trying to tell us something in his sports commentary

  17. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The spa where Kraft went in Jupiter is in a strip mall with a Publix. I’ve been at a few places in that strip mall. I would think the place would be a little more secluded and discreet than that. The women who were sex slaves and not allowed to leave the premises were all Chinese nationals. Crazy that they were getting away with it there in such a public area.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Grocery List:

      Bread
      Mustard
      Sliced Turkey
      Hand Job
      Shampoo
      Dog food

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Sigh, I just can’t quit this place. I’m not getting nay work done today.

      Tim, most of these types of massage parlors are in standard strip malls and high traffic locations. If back east is anything like out here, you can have 2 or 3 in any given 1-2 mile radius. At one point we had over 120 active locations in my county alone.

      They are very easy to spot too. It’s like they all have the same blueprint. If you walk into a massage parlor, and the front room is a bare room with a service window, a door to the back, and a chair or two, it’s almost certainly a place of prostitution. Most legitimate places have a very open and welcoming entry room, and usually offer all salon services, not just massage.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        We had a donut shop complain to our local planner about a massage parlor. The donut shop plumbing kept getting backed up and clogged. When they had a plumber out to the location, he found the line was so clogged with used condoms, it took him nearly 20 minutes of auguring to break through and clear the line. This was in a strip mall about 500 yds away from a local Sheriff station.

        This incident was a driving force that allowed us to change a local ordinance to prohibit massage parlors from using surveillance equipment on or in their buildings.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Gross!

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I’m sure there are many on the east coast. This one was next to the Food Shack. LOL

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        They had pictures. It was seriously disgusting.

  18. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Kong, that’s friggin nasty. Are you in law enforcement?

  19. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    That place did not have a sex problem. It had a plumbing problem.

    Whoever installed toilets that could not process condoms should be charged with felony malfeasance and reckless endangerment of people innocently enjoying recreation with their friends and acquaintances.

  20. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Kraft is won dum fuk

  21. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    For those Knick fans, Erving and Durant were hanging out at a restaurant in Miami the other day…maybe they will join forces in NY

  22. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Kong
    Blondes are the entire reason for prostitution. For the ugly guys like Rob Kraft.

    Any non-blonde women on the premises are just there to service those men who don’t have time to wait in the long lines at the Blondes’ rooms that they went for in the first place.

  23. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Piggy – Not sure I got your bath salts logic. I didn’t say to legalize all drugs, just marijuana, which I think is pretty similar to alcohol. If you smoke a little, you get a buzz, just like if you drink a little. If you smoke a lot, you get wasted, (but probably don’t throw up), and if you drink a lot, (you probably throw up) and you get wasted. Not sure how bath salts got in the equation.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      He was talking about how it’s not difficult to determine the difference between the two. So legalizing weed shouldn’t be met with so what about bath salts?

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Ohhhhhh, OK, got it.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        I had never heard that counter argument to legalizing marijuana before. Pretty weak if you ask me

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Mike, it’s similar to when people against gay marriage ask “what’s next, now you can marry an animal or a reptile or a clock?” LOL

        Right… gay people are not human, they’re whatever fucked up comparison you can come up with. This is the sort of stuff that holds back progress.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I’m on the same page as you

      I meant that drugs shouldn’t all be grouped together

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        People have been calling marijuana the gateway drug since I can remember

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Yeah and the people who say gateway are people who never smoked or only tried it. You know what kept most of my friends and I away from heroin? Great musicians dying from overdoses. Many of us also said, when you’re using a needle to get high you might want to rethink where you’re at.

  24. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Don’t think any NFL team owner has been caught in a prostitution sting before, but this sounds something like what Kraft might have in the future when Godell decides.

    “Jim Irsay was suspended six games and fined $500,000 in 2014. Irsay had been arrested on drug charges and ultimately pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor count of operating a vehicle while intoxicated. Irsay also admitted to a judge that he was under the influence of the painkillers oxycodone and hydrocodone. “

  25. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Have you ever seen someone on flakka? That’s not getting a buzz or high, that turns people into uncontrollable monsters having seizures. They lose all concept of reality. Google it. It’s disturbing. Why anyone wants to go there is really messed up.

  26. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    February 22, 2019 at 7:15 pm
    People have been calling marijuana the gateway drug since I can remember
    —————-
    Ricky Williams just said this week that marijuana IS a gateway drug… if one isn’t focused and if it’s used strictly for recreational/escape purposes (which is 99% of the time).

    I don’t know about the rest of y’all, but I’m not going to argue with Ricky on matters of marijuana. He knows through both experience and college education that it IS a gateway drug.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      For the record, I really don’t have a problem with those who smoke marijuana… just keep it in check and don’t step up to something else.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I first smoked when Ricky was in diapers. He’s no authority on the subject. It’s no more a gateway than abusing anything. It’s up to the individual like everything else. Most people I know who have smoked or still do don’t do anything else. All Ricky said was the obvious – if one isn’t focused. Right, like everything else. Should I have a slice or two of pie, or eat the whole pie? What’s the logical answer?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        There’s a lot at play here with any given individual, ya know. Mood, depression vs happiness, tolerance, genetics, susceptibility, personality type, availability, money, the type of people you run with (is it acceptable to do or do not?), age, and social pressure… just to name a few.

        I’m sorry Tim, but some people end up graduating from marijuana and end up bangin’ rocks. Conversely, some people can smoke weed all day for half their life and never have a need to graduate.

        Ya can’t broad-brush this topic. And just because you never went past marijuana doesn’t make you more informed than Ricky on the subject… it’s an individual problem, just like everything else in this world we live. Some can cope, some can’t.

  27. 13kvFINS's avatar 13kvFINS says:

    Yo Folks, hope you ALL re well!!!

    Posted something, needs mediated??

  28. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Not sure I get the gateway drug thing either. Honestly, it’s a mindset to me. If you decide “I wanna get fucked up tonight” you can drink until you’re shitfaced, if you know someone with weed, you can smoke until you get shitfaced. I don’t think pot leads to anything more than alcohol does. I did plenty of both in my youth, and then I tried other drugs too, but as far as I’m concerned, the rest had absolutely nothing to do with pot, it had to do with my curiosity and nothing more than that.

  29. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    M13, that’s the case with everything like I said. You just reiterated everything I said. LOL

    Alcohol could easily be accused of being a gateway drug but it’s legal. The topic we were discussing wasn’t about addictive personalities, it was about eliminating black markets and the criminal element. People are going to do it anyway. But how do we eliminate the criminal element from something someone is going to do anyway? Nothing is perfect but it can be better.

  30. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    And allow me to ‘rephrase’ what Ricky stated… marijuana CAN BE a gateway drug for those who aren’t focused and only do it for recreational/escape purposes.

    He (nor I) didn’t say that 100% of people who smoke marijuana 100% move on to harder drugs. I hope nobody is taking it to THAT extreme! Rather… being that marijuana CAN BE a gateway drug, it is, thus, a gateway drug.

    I just don’t want to get dragged into semantics… which is how this game is usually played! LOL

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      The vast majority of people who smoke marijuana never move on to harder drugs or struggle with substance abuse

      That’s a much more persuasive statistic then what you said

      The vast majority of murderers probably jaywalked first
      But it doesn’t follow that jaywalking is a gateway crime to murder

  31. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    M13, without conscience, everything is a gateway to something else.

  32. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    trade rumors, antonio bryant to the cards for josh rosen and the cards take murray #1 overall pick.

  33. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    I think someone left the friggin gate open around here!
    Try this for your new designer gateway!

  34. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    All I know is I started drinking alcohol first. Then came pot, then mescaline, I tried a quaalude (which I hated), then coke. If anything, alcohol was the gateway for me.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Let me fix that, my brain was the gateway. I just had a hunger and a curiosity to do those things, I can’t blame alcohol for it either.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Agreed. It’s our call. Now prosecute the people who enslave and take away the call (rights) of others. If people are going to do it anyway, why have a criminal element running it? I think underground money might have something to do with it but that’s another topic. 😉

  35. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tomorrow is Game 1 of Mets Spring Training. That’s crazy!

  36. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I don’t agree with this. The idea that throwing at the combine vs. your pro day will sway scouts/teams one way or the other. As if they’re clueless and don’t know the difference so you must deceive them. LOL

    Kyler Murray’s game tape has been reviewed. His character has been researched. His live workouts are just another visual to confirm what all the teams already know. If his ball whistles and is accurate at the combine, it’s most likely going to be the same at his pro day when everyone knows it’s scripted. That’s who he is, no?

  37. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I admit that Kyler Murray is an intriguing QB prospect. Yes he’s not big everyone knows that. He has major wheels and playmaking ability, everyone knows that. He has a good arm, everyone knows that.

    To me what it comes down to for him is leadership and football intellect as a QB. If he checks both of those he’ll get drafted high. If he measures 5-9 194 vs. 5-10 202 isn’t going to be the deciding factor. I think intangibles are a bigger factor with him. He’s not prototypical size but he might be part of a new wave of QB in the NFL.

    The reason I’ve rethought my opinion of him is I remember Joe Montana talking about how he played in the 180’s at about 6-1. The height didn’t mean much and he played in an era when big, physical defenses destroyed opponents without penalty. That’s changed.

    All that said, with Miami doing a rebuild, taking a chance on a new wave QB like Murray at #13 is not crazy. One pick should never set your franchise back in a big way unless you traded a bunch of other picks for him and he failed.

  38. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    M13

    Do you know how many people on this blog have smoked marijuana and it’s never been a gateway to anything?
    Come one man -that has always been a silly cliche

    Who care how Ricky feels about real expriencd and real life is worth a whole lot more than some ones quote

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Not even stoned as I wrote this gibberish ^

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I will say it often is a gateway to sex. People feeling good and human. What are the odds? LOL

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I’ll say it again: it depends on the individual. I think most people here on this blog are highly responsible individuals, so obviously, I don’t think we have druggies blogging here!

      YOUR personal experiences don’t dictate what has happened to other individuals. Once you get out of your own head and try to understand others, you’ll realize it’s not all about YOU. I don’t say that as a diss… I’m just sayin’. Too many peeps really don’t understand, because they only look knee-deep at their OWN experiences.

      I really don’t like the broad-brushing, based solely on one’s OWN experience. That’s the start of BULLSHIT and totalitarianism… ie: “I know better than you all, so I’m right”.

      It doesn’t work like that: that’s why socialism will never work.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        maybe what happened to other individuals is caused by something else

        It’s hard to call something the cause of something when it so seldomly has that result

        That % of people who smoke marijuana who have or develop substance abuse problems is dramatically low

  39. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Also M13, Ricky is in the marijuana industry

    This is his new company
    https://rw.life

    I don’t think he has a great deal of animosity about marijuana

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Allow people who enjoy it to grow it and share/sell it and stop making something so non-violent a crime. It’s fuckin stupid!!! Yes, let drug lords control it and create a fuckin organized crime war over it. Well done! Not!

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      You clearly didn’t listen to Ricky’s interview with Jim Rome: all of Ricky’s products are MEDICINAL (meaning, you can’t get HIGH off of his products).

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        That’s pretty much par for the course in the marijuana industry

      • 13kvFINS's avatar 13kvFINS says:

        “””Medicinal””” Sticky gets’Ya plenty hungry/HIGH,
        moreso than street weed which also severely reddens the non-violent eye, STAY BUZZED!!! 😍

  40. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Talk about stereotyping my man Ricky! WTF!!!

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      you think some one who sells and publicly advocates canabis for medicinal purposes views Canabis as a gateway drug?

      Could it be you’ve misinterpreted his quote?

  41. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Fuck Ricky!
    He quit on me!!!!!!!!

  42. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    February 22, 2019 at 9:35 pm
    …That % of people who smoke marijuana who have or develop substance abuse problems is dramatically low
    —————
    How could ya possibly know this? Can ya cite some numbers?

  43. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    My 0.01

    The worst mistakes in my life and the “Gateway” to worse thing Las in July life has always been alcohol not weed. Weed is a thinking drug alcohol a prohibition loosening bad decision influencing drug

    Never fealt 7 foot tall and bullet proof on weed. 😵
    Noone never smoked a joint and said hey I bet you I can hit the pool from here.

  44. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Clearly, I see that there is a cultural gap here when it comes to marijuana. NO… I didn’t say a generational gap… I said a cultural gap.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      It really doesn’t matter, and I’m not trying to pick on anyone. Just do you, and do it properly with responsibility. I don’t want a socialist society dictating what we can and can not do.

      Can I get an AMEN?!!

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Every society dictates what people do and can’t do
        A society without that is an anarchy

        The legalization of marijuana is one decision for our society to make
        And no – I don’t want anyone to tell me I can or can’t do that

        Currently we live in a society that tells you not to do that and it has nothing to do with socialism, it has to do with arguments like “marijuana is a gateway drug” drowning out facts on the subject that don’t support marijuana causing addiction to harder substances

  45. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    What’s cultural about it

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      HUH? You need to get out more, my friend Jordi!

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        explain don’t condescend

        That’s the lamest response I’ve heard

        It’s not cultural
        It’s obvious you want to say something that isn’t true is true and you are hoping making a cultural distinction that doesn’t really exist protects you from being challenged on something that makes absolutely no sense

  46. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Pott is not the boogie man and never has been

  47. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    BTW Medicinal DOES NOT mean it doesn’t get you high, necessarily speaking. There are some medicinal applications that INCLUDE the “high”

  48. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Marijuana is a plant. It’s a part of earth. It’s not overly processed. It can be but doesn’t have to be. Smoking pot as opposed to burning coke or heroin on a spoon, drawing the liquid into a syringe, tightening a tourniquet, finding a vein and shooting junk into your system to tune out. That’s the same as a circle of people passing a joint around with a few drinks as they discuss life? Stop!!!

  49. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    February 22, 2019 at 10:14 pm
    Every society dictates what people do and can’t do
    A society without that is an anarchy

    The legalization of marijuana is one decision for our society to make
    And no – I don’t want anyone to tell me I can or can’t do that

    Currently we live in a society that tells you not to do that and it has nothing to do with socialism, it has to do with arguments like “marijuana is a gateway drug” drowning out facts on the subject that don’t support marijuana causing addiction to harder substances
    —————
    *In my Count Dooku/Christopher Lee voice*
    Be CAREFUL what you wish for, Mr. Pig: this same train of thinking was used post-Prohibition. If we don’t learn from the past, we shall DIE from the past. Let us be apprehensive of history’s lessons.

  50. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    M13, ever go into a large liquor store? What do you see? Maybe thousands of different types of liquor and alcohol to get a buzz, drunk or shit-faced on. They are everywhere. But weed is the villain. LOL

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      You seem to be regressing from what we were talking about earlier. YES… alcohol IS a gateway drug, my friend. And I’ve seen beer lead to wine, and then wine to liquor. And then liquor to a life destroyed.

      And that’s NOT to say that beer can’t be bad enough for some or many.

  51. 13kvFINS's avatar 13kvFINS says:

    Damn, I not even permitted to type the address of where hang,
    Tried several times!!! Hmmmm??

    Try without the link or address

    The shout/Patrick put up a MURRAY to Miami?!?!?! Today…

    Of course I offered up my strongly worded Pro-Murray rendition in the comments…

    If interested in the Murray debate,
    It can be located at the MOBS LIST of other Dolphin sites…

    GOFINS!!!

  52. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Portgual is seeing what decriminalization of drugs have done over the last 2 decades. Much better than here…..

    We have “massage parlors” everywhere here. We all know what they do, so do the cops. Every now and then they shut one down and then another pops up next week. We have one adjacent to our restaurant. And yes it is 100% happy ending, no questions or words spoken. Everyone knows and yet it’s been there longer than we have.

  53. Dloxahatchee's avatar dcoralsprings says:

    Soooo, there’s a pervert a cheater and a guy who likes his balls soft.
    Dysfunction at its finest

  54. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    There will always be things far more evil available that people will seek, even if they legalize marijuana. There are worse drugs out there, much worse that people want. Legalizing marijuana will at least not make it a crime to use it or possess it, which I feel is a huge problem right now. In many states they are starting to turn a blind eye to it, which I think is the right thing to do until it does become legalized.

    As far as legalizing prostitution, it seems they have hard data on that from places like Holland where it’s legal, and yet the human trafficking is alive and well there, which means it won’t eliminate that issue, or maybe not even lessen it.

    Listen, cigarettes are legal, right? It’s well documented that they kill you, yet if you’re old enough, and many times not even old enough, you can get a pack of cigarettes just about anywhere. People have to make wise decisions, that’s what it comes down to. Using most things in moderation is fine, but if you’re an addictive personality, anything can be abused.

  55. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    This is Patrick’s article about Kyler Murray over at Dolphin Shout

    http://www.dolphinshout.com/

  56. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    KV – I think when you’re posting the address for Dolphin Shout it’s going straight to spam. Not sure how these filters work, but I know it’s not a secure website, whatever the F that means, so I think that’s why. What I mean by not secure, you know when you look at the web address at the top of your screen next to the https://, a secure site has a lock symbol next to it, a not secure site may show a red triangle with an exclamation point in it indicating it isn’t secure.

  57. I don’t think the fact that guys like Bess and Hartline were more successful with Tannehill throwing to them then anywhere else points to how good Tannehill is rather than pointing out that Miami was just bad at talent evaluation.

    They didn’t fail elsewhere because of the quarterback; they failed elsewhere because the teams they went to looked at them and said “man, these guys suck”.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Bess feasted off a shit-ton of short passes, which is really Tannehill’s specialty. Hartline did have some success stretching the field, kind of like Stills, but it wasn’t a consistent thing, mostly because of Tannehill’s accuracy, or lack thereof. It was the same with Mike Wallace, Wallace would be open, but Tannehill was late getting the ball out, and most times was off target, either underthrowing him or overthrowing him.

  58. Mike is correct, tobacco kills. why dont people call cigarettes the gateway drug? ask anyone that has done drugs, did smoking cigs occur first? but even so, cigarettes dont make you try hard drugs anymore than Marijuana does.

    millions of people have smoked the disgusting and deadly cigarettes full of toxic chemicals and mystery additives, or organic Marijuana, without ever sampling hard drugs

  59. marijuana is legal in some states because the people voted for it.
    in 2020, expect more east coast states to join in IMO

    if the people are in favour of Marijuana or prostitution, then I see nothing wrong with it.

    we cant have any laws to deny what a woman does with her body when it comes to unborn fetuses, so the same rule applies, the law needs to stay out of our heads and bodies.

    if Florida, its still illegal to shower naked, or in Sarasota You cant tie Your elephant up to a parking metered space without paying the same fare as a car. , WTF every state, county, city, HOA has outdated stupid laws

  60. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Guess ER will have to fly to the next Fest, no riding!

  61. My HOA cited Me for having more than 50 percent of weeds versus grass in my backyard, surrounded by a solid white 6 foot locked fence.

    the HOA would have needed a scientist and a drone to determine the weed/grass ratio in a locked private yard it,
    I bet they used neither

    i also got cited for needing to pressure wash the dirty gutters, but there are NO gutters on the house, arggggh i hate HOA

  62. make no mistake about it; where mj is concerned from a gov’t point of view it’s not about legal or illegal. when it comes down to money it will be legal in all 50 States because our gov’t sees the potential for the money coming from it. that’s all they care about. yeah, they didn’t like it before but now that so many people want it legalized the gov’t will jump on it and reap the benefits

  63. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    You never know…Kyler Murray may be drafted by Miami, with Marvin Allen as assistant GM he drafted the likes of Mahomes, Hill and Hunt.
    all elusive speed demons like Murray.
    Murray is said to have sub 4.3 speed which only 11 other NFL players have possessed.

  64. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Piggy, et al – MJ does increase violent tendencies, just like any other behavior inhibiting drug. The myth of the stoner who just wants to get high, sit on a couch, and chow down is a teenage fantasy.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-new-brain/201603/marijuana-use-increases-violent-behavior

    People who smoke pot want to see it legalized and I get that. But don’t turn a blind eye to the impacts. The data is starting to come in for places that have legalized it. Not enough to be causal yet, and largely slanted to whichever’s side the writer falls on, but at least in Colorado both property and violent crime have increased faster than the National averages. And black market activity has increased in all the legal states.

    • Lmao. i won’t ask You for specifics in Colorado, I’m sure You have none.
      I believe You Just like to call out the Original state to legalize MJ with no specifics?, just generalized talking points with no source to back it up?

      im not being mean to You bro, i just don’t buy Your glossy post that’s detail light.

      But I DO find it comical that those that never smoke it are “experts” on it.

      It’s a little comical because it’s easy to see the negative or inexperienced stereotypes
      By tee totalers.
      The experts on MJ are the users, not the avoiders

  65. Did u even read the Link You provided?
    Here is some of it
    In contrast to alcohol, meth, and many other illegal drugs, the mellowing effects of cannabis seem unsuited to promoting violent behavior. However, ample previous research has linked marijuana use to increased violent behavior. The sticky problem in such studies are the many confounding factors involved in interpreting this correlation. It is very difficult to determine whether any statistical correlation between marijuana use and violent behavior are causally linked, or instead the two are associated through some other factor, such as socioeconomic status, personality traits, or many other variables that are related to the propensity to use marijuana. Moreover, the causal relation between smoking pot and violent behavior could be in exactly the opposite direction.

  66. If There is some evidence that people that support Trump are more prone to violence against the press or minorities, should Trump be outlawed for it?
    Lol
    No, but congress should censure

  67. Hemp bud is sold in head shops and flea markets in Florida .

    It looks, smells, and tastes like regular Marijuana, but it has less than .03 THC, so it can be purchased and consumed by law in this state.

    You don’t get intoxicated, just very relaxed and in a good mood.

    Here is a popular one,

    https://thecbdreviewer.com/hemp-masters-hemp-cbd-bud-strains-review/

  68. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    i truly am sorry for my distracting football post at 10:17 am, i’ll let you guys get back to your drug views.

    it is so riveting and interesting,

    so much so i can’t wait to get back to painting the interior of my home, i hope i don’t miss that much!

  69. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Phelon – I don’t smoke pot, I haven’t for over 30 years. If it gets legalized, I may reconsider though.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      With you in that have only used once since got out of school in the early 90’s. Not sure why legal or not matters though….. never stopped me before that. My choice on that was just like figured out most of my worst days had hard alcohol involved, so stick to beer.

      And been to the pot museum in Amsterdam and declined the free sample, but admittedly as stoned as my first wife got while we were there figured better for one of us to know how to not fall in a canal.

  70. ORob, You are correct Murray has blazing speed, bur not much else to say about his incredible speed except to watch all the helpless defenders left bobbing in his wake this fall.

    His speed will be a huge mismatch at the NFL level. And Speed always translates to the next level

    • there is a huge difference between the NFL and college. you’re not going up against the best every single week. how many of the guys he faced on the defensive side of the ball will ever play a down of professional football?

      I’ll say it again, everyone is fast in the NFL; even 300 lb d lineman. If he comes in at 5’9″ and in the 180-185 lb range you’re taking a huge risk in drafting him. If you are a team that’s close and can somewhat afford to take a chance then that’s different but when you’re a team that needs too much help can you afford to use a high first on a guy who might not have the durability to give you even four years?

      • Not many as fast as he in the NFL level, he will be the fastest QB, possibly ever.

        Of course we don’t know how the rest of his game will translate to the next level, but speed always translates well.

        He is the best QB in the NCAA, Top QB in the draft.
        He won’t go first because some teams are leary of his size

  71. https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/431137-marijuana-legalization-is-not-driving-increases-in-violent-crime

    There is evidence … that the legalization of recreational cannabis enacted in Washington caused a decrease in crime rates. The point estimates for rape, assault, robbery, burglary and theft are all negative. This conclusion is reinforced by the statistical significance of the drop in rapes and thefts. … Our estimates reveal that the legalization decreased … both ordinary alcohol and binge alcohol. … These effects on consumption suggest that one of the mechanisms underlying the reduction in crime may be a substitution away from other drugs … such as alcohol, which makes consumers more aggressive than if consuming cannabis.

    A similar trend emerged in Colorado following legalization. According to a white paper published by the CATO Institute think-tank, “[M]onthly crime rates from Denver, Colorado … remain essentially constant after 2012 and 2014. … Other cities in Colorado mirror those findings.”

  72. BailBondMike's avatar BailBondMike says:

    Decided to do one more pre-combine. With all these Pats coaches, not sure if they would convince the GM to trade back like the Pats seem to do every year and even out of the 1st sometimes. I decided to do that multiple times until I was at the end of the 1st round. This allowed me to address the whole OL early and double down on QB.

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 29 (K.C.): Bush, Devin, OLB, Michigan (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 16: Benzschawel, Beau, OG, Wisconsin (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 17 (CLE): Winovich, Chase, DE, Michigan (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 19 (TENN): Love, Julian, CB, Notre Dame (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 27 (IND): Grier, Will, QB, West Virginia (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 31 (K.C.): Dillard, Andre, OT/OT, Washington State (A)
    Round 3 Pick 14: Biadasz, Tyler, C, Wisconsin (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Russell, Dontavius, DT, Auburn (B+)
    Round 4 Pick 27 (IND): Jackson, Tyree, QB, Buffalo (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 13: Henderson, Darrell, RB, Memphis (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Boykin, Miles, WR, Notre Dame (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 17: Layne, Justin, CB, Michigan State (A+)

    Also, Devin Bush is smallish but a hell of a “football player”. Versatile, smart and just the type player our new coaches talk about. Some of the things said about him on Draft Network:
    Football Intelligence – Higher level IQ player, involved in numerous concepts (gap exchanges, scrapes, gap fits, etc.) in the run game. Disciplined team player who does well to execute primary responsibilities.
    Lateral Mobility – Has the required range to play any position on the second level vs. the run.
    Gap Shooting Ability – Explosive first step, is a dynamic second level defender who is capable of disrupting behind the line of scrimmage courtesy of blitzes or when stepping to fill vs. a down block.
    First Step Quickness – Terrific burst off of the line. Secondary acceleration on delayed blitzes is dynamic and one of his best weapons on the field.

    And, RB Henderson gives us that smaller, quick pass catching RB the Pats like in their offense.

  73. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    Is ANYONE shocked that proven scumbag Robert KRAPP got caught in the act of paying for sex with an under age Chinese girl who doesn’t even speak English? I’m not the least bit surprised. Nor will I be surprised if KRAPP is indicted for being part of a human trafficking operation that moved unwilling Chinese girls to the United States, bringing more money and pleasures to KRAPP’S ill gotten multi billion dollar empire. And, for those who may not know, the FOCUS of this sting was NOT just prostitutes and their “customers.” It was, (and IS) human trafficking on an international scale. And I’m wondering if KRAPP is up to his deflated balls in this despicable enterprise?

    Used to be that when folks mentioned “New England,” the word “Cheatriots” came to mind. And no wonder. Since KRAPP took over, his franchise has paid more fines and been docked more draft choices than any other franchise in NFL history. KRAPP pathetically cried “FOUL” and denied ANY wrong doing. He even threatened to sue the NFL (and their powerful owners). But when the NFL said “Go ahead ans sue us,” KRAPP backed down. But he certainly did NOT stop cheating. Before the start of the 2018 season, receiver Julian Edelman was suspended 4 games for violating the NFL’s drug policy. A few months later, Edelman was celebrating a Super Bowl MVP Award. Coincidence? You be the judge.

    Most NFL fans understand New England’s murky history of misdeeds. Yet many still give them the benefit of the doubt. Many even crowned KRAPP and his players and coaches the title of GREATEST OF ALL TIME (G.O.A.T.)!!!

    Well, folks, the days of KRAPP and BELICHEAT getting the benefit of the doubt are OVER!! The continuing investigation of KRAPP’s Empire is bound to reveal misdeeds that make “Deflate Gate” look like a minor misdeed.

    Robert KRAPP is NOT just another guy “seeking to get an edge.” He is, and will be proven to be, a felon who will commit almost any crime to get ahead, both in the business world and in the massage parlours of America.

    Call him what he is. AN EVIL MAN!!

    • olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

      I LEFT out something I believe is relevant. Many years ago, when KRAPP’s wife lay dying of metastatic breast cancer, KRAPP was photographed several times with a lady about 30 years younger than him he was escorting to expensive restaurants and parties. KRAPP’s explanation? “We are just friends discussing a business deal.” What kind of man does this to his dying wife??

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Don’t think anyone is claiming whoever made him happy was underage, but for sure Kraft F-ed up. Same time — don’t think he has much to do with what happens with the Pats other than letting the evil genius do whatever he wants and then later give one of his superbowl rings to Putin and after not say a word when he keeps it.

      So see Kraft far as more a buffon and patsy.

      • I don’t believe that for a second. Guys like him look like they are buffoons but they know what they are doing and they have the legal people who are very good at getting them out of trouble.

      • the amazing thing is that if this was a just a plain joe schmoe everyone would be calling him a scum for going there and wanting him to get punished but, for some reason, when it’s a wealthy or high-profile individual there’s people who will always come to their defense.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        proflou — think Kraft should be fully punished for this just like anyone else would. And in his case the NFL will put in an extra penalty on top (which you can call the price of being who he is).

        But no love for calling him a “patsy”? Was a little proud of that.

  74. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Stanger – If I’ve abstained from weed for over 30 years, I’m sure I can go another 30 w/o it. On the other hand, if it becomes legal, I would consider trying it again, I just wouldn’t risk anything because it isn’t legal at the present time. I don’t need it, I would like to try some of he new strains they have.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      So sounds like if on a trip to Cal or Colorado is in play. Lots of my friends do and feel like one of the uncool kids when say no thanks….. and they still sneak off to semi-hide from me at times. Guess no one can get around that ingrained high school training.

  75. I think Kraft is retarded. He could have avoided the place and should have.

    he thought with the wrong head, and NFL might discipline him with a six figure fine making that one of the unhappiest endings ever, lol

    Also Kraft owned a bunch of kraft shares, another tard move since they have brain damaged management at Kraft Foods.

    Kraft stock tanked 27 percent Friday, worst margin on the board
    , Kraft and buffet had tons of that ahitty stock and are out millions. I find it Shocking that buffet also owned shares of Kraft, he claims he only invests in solid companies, bullshit.

    They should have asked someone or researched Kraft.

    VERY stupid investing, both are rich senile investors ate shit Friday .

    I no longer believe in Buffet, he lost his touch, I can beat buffets gains everyday.
    Buffet had 5 other stocks besides Kraft that tanked Friday, he lost his touch

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      David — thought Robert Kraft had nothing to do with the Kraft company. Did he just happen to invest in it?

      • Yes, he doesn’t have anything to do with it, except he’s a total dumbass for investing millions in such a horrible company and stock.
        I wouldn’t have bought a single share, even after the drop it’s not appealing

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Had no idea Kraft with a company with his own name on it was also a big investor in Kraft Foods. Thanks for clearing that up….. you can get why thought a real big coincidence though.

  76. BailBondMike's avatar BailBondMike says:

    Guess I will check back later tomorrow when we are talking foosball again.

    Oh, and BTW, Marijuana is a precursor to blow jobs. I can vouch for that. Maybe it just affects my wife that way. I don’t know, but I always make sure she does not run out.

  77. Buffet had Kraft, down 27

    I have PIR, up 25
    MARA up 18
    RiOT, INSY, up 9
    RWLK , NIO. Up 8
    JD up 7
    IIPR up 6
    AMD up 2.42
    DIS up .84
    DPW up .97

    I have a few that were down Friday, but are up aftermarket and should be up Monday

    GG down 3.8
    GERN down 1.36
    TRNX down 2.07

    Eat shit warren buffet, lmao. Btw I use warren buffet techniques for my picks.

    Too bad Warren no longer follows his own sage advice, guess he’s too old

  78. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  79. Osweiler is 6 foot 7. 240, and went on the injury list Dec 23

    Ryan Tannehill is 6 foot 4. And has missed games 3 years in a row.

    Russsel Wilson , Drew Bree’s, and Baker Mayfield, all smallish QB, all finished their teams seasons uninsured.

    Size doesn’t prevent injury, It’s irrelevant how big is RT when he got hit on the knee.

  80. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mike, the new strains of bud might blow your mind from when you smoked 30 years ago. Take a very little hit at first to see how it effects you. The new bud is much more potent than back in the day.

  81. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    MikeE,
    Forget what Tim says. Dig out your 4 foot bong, load it up with a couple huge buds and take half a dozen very deep hits. Then, start video taping what happens next and post it here. 🙂

  82. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Resident Socialist – Sweet Baby Jesus. Just like a dumbass socialist to half ass their research to support their stance.

    2015 over 2014 – https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/cbi/news/cbi-releases-2015-crime-colorado-report ( I wouldn’t want you to work too hard, because you’re not used to that so:
    Homicide +14.7% / Rape +10.6% / Robbery +9.6% / Aggravated Assault +4.6% / Other Assaults +7.8% / Burglary +0.9% / Larceny +4.1% / Motor Vehicle Theft +27.7% / Total +6.2%)
    2016 over 2015 – https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/cbi/news/cbi-releases-2016-crime-colorado-report (Homicide +9.9% / Rape +7.2% / Robbery +5.9% / Aggravated Assault +8.3% / Other Assaults +3.6% / Burglary +0.8% / Larceny +4.3% / Motor Vehicle Theft +22% / Total +5.5%)
    2017 over 2016 – They changed their format in 2017, made it harder to pull out actual numbers for everything. https://coloradocrimestats.state.co.us/tops/ (Homicide +13.6% / Rape +6.9% / Robbery +7.8% / Aggravated Assault +8.1%). One interesting stat that is indicative of the causes of the steady increases comes from the Forensics Division – Drug Chemistry testing went from 3800 in 2015 to 5393 in 2017, a 41.9% increase. (https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/sites/default/files/CBI%20Annual%20Report_2017.pdf)

    Washington State – http://wa-state-ofm.us/CrimeStatsOnline/index.cfm
    2015 over 2014 – (Homicide +21.4% / Rape +5.4% / Robbery +1.5% / Assault +5.3% / Burglary -0.1% / Theft +1.9%)
    2016 over 2015 – (Homicide +7.9% / Rape +21.3% / Robbery +13.5% / Assault +13% / Burglary +4.1% / Theft +16.3%)
    2017 over 2016 – (Homicide +12.4% / Rape +10.7% / Robbery +0.3% / Assault +10.8% Burglary -4.3% / Theft +3.5%)

    So – Reading is fundamental. In my original post, I said crime rates had risen, but the data was not causal. I suppose there where either too many words or you are intellectually lazy and challenged. Bless your heart. That means I was not claiming marijuana legalization was the reason for rising crime rates, just that those states crime rates were rising at a faster pace than the National average.

    By the way – As a point of reference, recreational marijuana was not legalized in Colorado until January 2014. So using stats from 2012 to 2014 to show crime decreased and then having crime increase from 2014 forward after legalization kind of undermines your own argument. But again – Bless your heart.

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      And Hemp cultivation is only authorized at the University of Florida and FAMU under current legislation. Not legal in Florida.

      https://www.votehemp.com/states/florida-hemp-law/

      • Phel, You haven’t provided any links showing direct correlation of Marijuana causing violent behaviour. No wonder you need fascists government to do Your thinking for You. I do Nazi violence from pot smoking friends.

        Let’s start from the beginning.
        1. You make an ignorant and false claim that marijuana promotes violence.
        2. Your first post link contradicts You , lol. I coped and pasted the contradiction for You, and You ignore it?
        Also the links here show crime reports, but I do Nazi anything saying legal marijuana promotes violence.
        , but they do say this, copy n paste from YOUR faulty and incomplete research,,,,,
        Please note:
        Figures used in this report were submitted by law enforcement agencies across Colorado. CBI compiles this information to provide a universal document for these statistics to be accessed. CBI cannot offer analysis as to the reasons for changes in the crime rates or any other interpretation of the data; rather, those questions should be directed to individual law enforcement agencies.

        3. If you don’t smoke pot, and cannot research either, then You are totally clueless on the subject. Thanks for proving that, lol

        Ps, a bit of advice, Find a link showing marijuana makes people violent, not for Me, but to satisfy Your own incorrect and ignorant agenda.

        Stay in Your lane bootlicker
        And I’ll show you some good places to buy hemp 😎

  83. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    So after stopped smoking pot go to a strip club with that crazy party friend we’ve all had (think Walker). We’re a number of pitchers in and across the river from where we live. Already worried about him pulling over but he gets off a few exits away and pulls up to a condo and bangs on the door until someone wakes up and then insists on getting stoned…. dudes weren’t happy about it at @2AM but gave him the 3 bong hits he wanted and went back to sleep.

    After he gets back on the 3-lane highway and keeps going “WOOAH” “WOOOAH” WOOOOOOOAH”. Eventually ask him “do you get that you are driving 30 in a 55?”

  84. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    OD – There was nothing about Kraft being videoed with an underage girl. A prostitute, yes. And yes the investigation was a Task Force investigation into human trafficking. However, Kraft is being charged with an misdemeanor, probably solicitation.

  85. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  86. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Of course crime rates rise when weed is legal. Who hasn’t stolen a burrito from a convenience store when you were high and forgot your wallet at home? Come on….is that really a crime?

  87. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim – I’m sure I would whacked pretty quickly after not smoking for all those years. I still get a little lightheaded when I smoke a cigar. lol

    I used to smoke some hard stuff back in the day, Thai stick, opiated hash, and then just regular good ole weed. I remember some Thai stick being pretty strong, but I have no idea how it compares to what’s available now,

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      I quit smoking a while back, when i was in colorado I had a grow with a 1000 plants, the weed and edibles were stupid, you could trip on that shit, they smoke wax as well, one hit and you will be drooling. they blast that shit with butane.
      back in the 70’s i use to buy lids for $20, columbian gold, jamaican weed, used zig zags to roll a joint, some great homegrown as well, never would i kill the taste of weed with a cigar paper!
      i don’t miss that shit, i don’t even drink, i’m high on golf

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        in the 70s you didn’t get as high as this new shit, you may as well do heroin nowadays

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        That’s why back in the 70’s and 80’s you kept lighting joints or packing bowls over and over because much of the weed was dirt weed and would wear off. You only need little blasts of the new stuff and it lasts.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I remember Thai stick too and it was strong for back in the day. Not sure how it compares to today’s bud but I know the new stuff is stronger than anything I remember back in the day.

  88. BailBondMike's avatar BailBondMike says:

    Not sure if I ever mentioned that my wife is also a bondsman here at my office. She works the night shift opposite me on weekends then we are off Mon-Thurs together. After her working here for 11 years now (me only 6 yrs), she has the perfect connections for the best weed for anyone if/when you come to P-cola on vacation. A few years ago, she had a young guy come in to make his last payment on his bond. Owed $50. He only had $5 on him so he asked if he could pay with some weed. My wife said she would close his account if he gave her all of it. He was afraid we would put him back in jail for not paying so he gave it all to her. It was about $150 worth. He was a good kid. Only sold weed nothing else and that was to put himself through college. Was known as “Lil’ Bud”. Anyway, he did Pre-Trial Diversion and got no pros on his charge. I asked my wife last year why she changed weed guys. She said he graduated college and got a job with the Atlanta Braves Organization. I was like GTFO! I was proud of “Lil Bud” who is now “Lil Brave”. LOL

    If they legalized M/J back then, “Lil Bud” might not have made it. Plus, legalization is bad for business. LOL

    • BailBondMike's avatar BailBondMike says:

      Oh, “Lil Bud” was not his real street name. I don’t remember what it was but that is what I called him when talking about him to my wife.

  89. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
    February 23, 2019 at 11:03 am
    Lol what color? Paint is an interesting subject as well, 😎
    ______________________________________________

    Cocaine white

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      I’m still not on board with Murray, but if they pick him, I will assume he is going to be special until he proves otherwise.

  90. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I heard in the rumor mill Arizona is trying to trade Rosen and will select Murray #1 overall

  91. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Has anyone heard from Top Secret as of late? I realize he suffered a stroke last year… but any updates, anybody? I miss that dude!

  92. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    ORob – If Miami could get Rosen for a 4th, that would be okay. Didn’t show enough to give up more. Regardless, if they pick a QB this year, I feel like they should still go after one of the top QB next year as well. I suppose if they picked one this year and he lights it up i’ll have to revisit that.

  93. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    If we were to pick Murray it’s going to be everyone is on board with it. Grier, Allen, Flores and O’Shea. I believe McKenzie is focused on pro player personnel not college. But I’m sure his opinion will be valued as well because as a former GM he scouted and drafted college talent too.

  94. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rob – I have no desire to get destroyed, I just like a nice buzz. I guess I won’t be smoking any time soon if ever, and if I do, I’ll just do a small amount.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      One or two small hits whenever you’re in the mood is all you’ll need. That’s all I do. Not so much that you’ll get destroyed with the high, too much at one time will burn your throat and lungs and you’ll have a coughing fit. Small amounts and slow draw. Then you’ll feel nice. 🙂

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        That’s one thing I never enjoyed. I remember smoking Thai stick out of my friends pipe, it was pretty industrial that pipe, like a pipe he ripped out of his wall or something. I just remember coughing and then getting sick from it. We did that during lunch at school, I had to back to class, I felt like shit. lol

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Yeah that’s not the idea of doing it. LOL

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      I remember buying a strain in colorado called “elroy Jetson”
      “blue Dream” was the most popular strain for growers due to the massive yield.

  95. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    So we’re STILL talking about marijuana on a football blog?!! LOL

  96. Phel, if You don’t smoke weed, and can’t research it or debate properly, we don’t expect You to know much about it. That’s cool, just don’t pretend Your an expert, lol

    If You don’t want to smoke, ask someone that does, before u spout false propaganda and debunked stereotypes, otherwise You are just unintentionally providing comic relief, lol

    I’m smoking some Bruce banner number 3 right now, almost 30 percent thc is a sativa/ indie hybrid,
    and I feel very relaxed and happy, not violent 😎

    But Come on over and I’ll let you try some and see if it relaxes You or not

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      What the actual fuck are you rambling about? To mis-quote Princess Bride, when you use words like “research” and “debate” “I do not think these words mean what you think they mean.” You seem to think “research” is latching on to the first huffpo article that supports your feeble-minded worldview and “debate” is repetitiously typing the same dead talking points that you read in the aforementioned “research.”

      And, I am not sure what you what you are referring to when you speak of false propaganda and debunked stereotypes. Would that be the results of the 50 year study published in the psychology worlds trade magazine? Or the state published crime statistics? Or was that line in your “research” as well?

      On second thought, don’t answer. You are simply to dumb to talk to.

  97. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Did you know that some people pass out smoking weed, Google it.
    but what they don’t know is the reason why??

    It’s called vasodilation.

    the arteries in your neck and around your heart dilate causing a drop in blood pressure a lack of oxygenated blood to the brain….. out go the lights.

    https://www.quora.com/Can-smoking-marijuana-cause-you-to-pass-out

  98. Why do tokers like reefer madness? Because it’s ridiculously slanted to the point of outright silly falsehoods, by people that never smoked or had friends that did.

    So it’s patently ridiculous of course, with no real facts to it, yet is supposed to be a documentary, not comedy.
    But it’s great to watch when You have a good sativa buzz, You will laugh Your ass off

  99. Weed is much stronger today, hybrids as strong as 32 percent THC.

    If that isn’t strong enough, I have some vape cartridges processed to 90 percent THC, One hit and You are good for the day!
    whereas weed in the 70’s was single digits

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