The Miami Dolphins got themselves a very nice player in DT Christian Wilkins. Very high character, productive Defensive tackle. You’re probably thinking this is a conformist puff piece, right? NOPE!
So the Dolphins drafted a nice DT, that’s great. Guess what? We may have gotten the 3rd best DT in this draft in our division. Quinnen Williams, who may be the best player in the draft went to the Jets, and Ed Oliver a diversified freak of an athlete went to the Bills. Guess what else? Both of those teams have QB’s. Just shows how far behind the 8 ball we are. I will be watching Dwayne Haskins career closely. He was right there and we passed. I know so many of you are happy we did, and so many of you are happy we drafted Christian Wilkins instead. I’m not that guy.
Sure, there’s a possibility we take a QB in RD 2, or maybe in RD 7, but in my mind, our success or failure will be measured by Dwayne Haskins and Christian Wilkins. We didn’t have to reach for him, there was no trade up necessary, we just went in a different direction.. Look, this doesn’t mean I’m right, it’s just my opinion, and my opinion of this move is not good. Maybe we wait until next year with Tua, Herbert and Fromm, or maybe it’s just Tua and Herbert and Fromm plays his Senior year. Who knows what happens down the line, and it’s very risky putting all your eggs in one basket.
The draft isn’t over yet, I’m not condemning the entire draft of everything we do, I simply don’t agree with the choice they made last night. I hope Christian Wilkins has a great career here and is a perennial All-Pro. I just hope next year at draft time we’re all not scratching our heads about what we do at the QB position, the most important position in football.
Finsmob Unleashed 
Nice article, Mike E…..I hope he’s a good one too and adds a cornerstone to our future top 10 defense we are building. Go Dolphins!!!!
Well Mike hopeful that our front office put in the work and determined that he just isn’t the guy
We’ve been here before with Brady Quinn and that worked out correctly,
I will say the texts started flying from a lot of friends basically sharing your thoughts though
Wilkins almost jumped over Goodell…..he’s 315 pounds!!!!
Personally I like Wilkins, solid pick he should fit well, really smart very focused, looking forward to watching him
Since everyone keeps throwing Parcells around here as if Chris Grier is a PArcells clone, what did Parcells do for us when he was here? Let’s see, he got us Jake Long, Phillip Merling, Kendall Langford. Then Jared Odrick and Koa Misi. Oh yeah, toss in a 2nd RD pick on Chad Henne. How successful were we? Please don’t remind me. Why people revere Bill Parcells the Football Czar is beyond my comprehension. He was nothing less than awful for us. Great football coach, lousy GM/Czar
Grier…..Wilkins was the BPA on our board…. Stay the course!!!!
It may very well be the right course, and I truly hope it is. I don’t want to be right about Haskins, I want to enjoy watching my team win.
Absolutely agree…I want to enjoy watching good football. I love a defensive battle.
agreed Mike, this is bed bath and beyond messed up.
both impact players Haskins and Lock on the board, and we went with the role player Wilkins.
its almost as if the team is scared to fail at picking a qb, so they instead fail to pick one at all.
maybe the fins are always wanting to find the next brady in the sixth, SMH
if the Rosen trade doesnt work, the team has signed off on tanking the damn year. i cant believe we are sucking for luck part 2. if thats the case, i lost a ton of respect for our FO
We didnt even try to sign Gilbert from the AAF, the team genuinely doesnt want a QB.
its probably good there wasnt a player named Tank in the first round, he would have been the pick
Who says Haskins and Lock are “impact” players or will come anywhere near that in the NFL?
We shall see.
The only one I care about is the one we picked…..a “role” player???? Can we at least root for the one we picked? and wish or hope they he will be one of the best? SMH!????
quarterbacks are impact players, linemen are role players
its not Wilkins fault the FO decided to suck for Luck part 2. i DO wish him well, and he is needed here,
but we have tons of lineman everywhere, but no QB
this reminds Me of us taking Jordan when we needed a QB
or Charles Harris
the fans should start demanding a better quality product. we are paying for i phones and samsungs, but they are giving us plastic toy phones from a dollar store.
season ticket holders should voice their displeasure, the FO doesnt have a QC department, they think the customers are stupid enough to fork over good money for defective merchandise, we have to let them know that isnt true
the fins should discount the tickets by 80 percent of any tank season imo
its a total ripoff the FO charges full prices, for half ass teams
Krishna – See my 8:05AM post above
Making false equivalencies…..Parcells was a coach and GM. Grier has been GM in-training for almost all his career and has taken responsibility for the last 3 drafts (v coaches wishes). Parcells had one of the best defenses of all time and one of the best in LT of all time. Won superbowls on two different teams, then tried his hand at GM because he wanted to the buy the “groceries.” Didn’t he get to the HOF?
I can’t believe we are already trashing our new FO after the first pick of the draft…..and hopefully a great one (not just good) that fills one of our greatest needs. Can’t we be happy for that?
I think we’re saying the same thing, Mike E.
OK, so you weren’t fond of Parcells as GM/Czar here then. OK, Now I gotcha.
Parcells left a really bad taste in my mouth in the end. I’ve watched him for a long time back to my NY days and through his Dolphin days. Didn’t really like him as a coach in his early days, but watched him grow as a coach. Then, don’t really know WTF happened in the end. Seems he walked away, but with all the rumors, who really knows. He was truly a defensive minded coach, and made the transition to a pretty good head coach. What was their QBs name? Hostetler, Simms? These were not elite QBs.
Krishna – I don’t mean to push, you say you love a defensive battle. Can you find me the last team that won that the SB that didn’t have an elite QB? Take your time . . .
I could google it…..but the last superbowl was won, imo, because NE shutdown the most prolific offense in the NFL. How many points were scored in the SB?????
And, I know you can google the rankings of the SB defenses to the 60s.
It’s clear to me what sustains a good football program over the years and then some get lucky by adding a great QB. Perfectly sound plan, imo. You can google that, too.
the most prolific offense requires having a franchise QB.
cheats didnt try to intentionally tank last year
I don’t even know what you’re talking about.
our defense isnt good enough to shut out every opponent, SMH even worse, defense isnt on the field for pick sixes.
with the human interception machine Fitzsucktrick, We have no way to win more than 2 or 3 games
That’s why we have to build it. Aren’t we in rebuild mode?
nope, we are in tank mode
OK, so the Patriots have Tom Brady, perennial playoff team, numerous SB’s, and not always because they have the best defensive players, they have the best HC and QB. Steelers are perennial playoff contenders with Ben. Drew Brees has NO’s contending, defense or no defense. Aaron Rodgers for many yars had GB at the top w/o a defense.
I’m not saying you don’t need a defense, but look a t JAX if you want a perfect example of a great defense w/o a QB, and where that gets ya!
And Marino has none!
None, but we were a contender, we just had the buizzsaw know as the Buffalo Bills in our division. They had a QB, RB and a defense for many years. We just had the QB. The Bills were one of the best teams of the 90’s. Going to 4 straight SB’s in uncharted territory.
80’s and 90’s
Marino took the team to the super bowl his second season, think Wilkins can do the same?
of course he cant, role players just fill a role, they dont make impacts, or carry the team to greater heights like Marino did
but Wilkins isnt the real problem , its the FO and FItzpatrick that are the real problems
And you saying the number 13th pick in this years draft was a QB, Haskins v Wilkins?
And that Haskins is Brady, Ben, Drew, and Aaron all wrapped up as one. I don’t see any of that in him, but I don’t watch Ohio State football. I do think Urban Meyer was able to help him greatly against underwhelming talent. We shall see.
There’s never ONE guy……that’s why I love this team, stay the course, mentality I “think” I see with this NEW FO. I just want to give them a chance and support them.
Ideally, you have both. We have to raise an entire defense to that level with many talented players….that sets us up long term to rotate good players in and out. One player will not do it.
Same on offense, ONE player will not do it. Dak found out it wasn’t all about him last year. He has an awesome line. Romo was UDFA and learned…..not a one and done QB.
Both these QBs “stepped-in” to it. Let’s give our next QB the same opportunity to get better as an NFL QB rather than get him killed and fear for his life.
KM, I fear will do great until he gets hit….and it will only take one time, imo. Haskins—see above.
Sorry got to go and love the smack!
krishna, what im saying is the team has signed off on tanking the year, and screw them if they dont know why
they know,
they are testing to see how quality conscious the customers are,
will they pay full price for a team thats intentionally trying to lose games
Krishna – Not sure if Haskins is any of those guys, but I’m pretty certain that Luke Falk, Jake Rudock and Fitz aren’t. Gotta have the QB, it energizes the team. If I ask you a general question, what position is the most important on a team, is DT your answer?
if You take Your wife or gf out to an expensive seafood resturant,
but they served You instant ramen noodles from the dollar store, and when You complain they say fuck it,
it was their plan all along to serve You garbage food. come back next year for seafood. lol
would that make You happy?
Krishna – Enjoy your day bud! Good talk
Flores has said from day one he wants to build from the trenches. That’s exactly what we did yesterday. This is the deepest year for DL maybe ever. We picked the BPA on our board, and it fit a huge need as well.
Another item at play could be that Miami may like Rosen as a prospect better and could possibly get him for significantly less and still keep building the trenches. Who really knows.
I think that’s 100% correct
Mike,
Nice article & 💯 can get your frustration if you truly believe that Haskins is a bonafide franchise QB.
Thanks DBolt – I do think he will be (Haskins). We shall see my friend. Appreciate the good words!
No problem👍 We all have our favorites & can be frustrating when they’re right there and it doesn’t happen.
On a different note I just read this:
Josh Rosen is expected to be traded today. He has unfollowed the #Cardinals on IG and talks with the #Dolphins went late into the night.
I am 100 percent certain that Wilkins ISNT a franchise QB , anymore than Harris or Jordan were
Bri – Grier also said we need a QB. We had an easy one, a layup, we missed it.
Ramen noodles
Like Dbolt said, I think they like Rosen better as a prospect. What if they can get him for a third rounder? Then you get a former first round pick for great value, while getting what will hopefully be a key piece to our DL for the future.
David:
You lost me at Ramen noodles
lmao, leave an address and ill send You some
Josh Rosen is expected to be traded today. He has unfollowed the #Cardinals on IG and talks with the #Dolphins went late into the night.
I know the Pats loved him last year & thought he was a perfect fit for their offensive scheme.
I almost typed that as well!
He’ll likely be a Dolphin by the end of the day. I hope we can get him for a third- the cardinals have no leverage. The giants and the skins both took one. There aren’t many teams left that need one.
I think Miami would offer a 3rd in next years draft that could escalate to a 2nd with certain playing time and statistical incentives. The way to look at it is If escalates up a 2nd then you probably have a franchise player at QB.
I think the team should demand fans that are not halfwits.
its ok, they like Your money regardless of Your intelligence, or lack of
big corporate business doesnt turn away money, if the customers are happy with inferior quality, why would the business try to improve?
Is this like grade school…”I know you are, but what am I?” Moron.
Thanks Brian!
🙌🏻
Well there ya go Mike E
You got David in your corner!
That’s rarefied air!
SMH
Mike – Haskins may one day be a good QB. Or not. Bot as a prospect you would be picking him on the perception of potential that is largely media driven. Kind of like playing penny stocks. Maybe you when, but most lose. not something to go all in on with your future on the line. Haskins would have been a luxury pick.
win not when
If Miami gets Rosen for a 3rd, I’m going M-13 on y’all. I’ll be crowing who said it first all week.
cant wait! his 66.7 passer rating was worst in the league
I didn’t say he would be good, just that he could be had for a 3rd.
Rosen noodles?
Chopsticks!
I don’t let myself get too crazy over who we pick and who we don’t anymore- they have just as much a chance if not working out as they do being successful.
Same here….started becoming less attached once my kids started to get older😂.
Ditto
Although my son is getting into in now, and we were jumping up and down and hugging last year when we drafted Gesicki, so I may be a liar
Awesome
If they’re trading for Rosen, then obviously they had a clear plan on what they wanted to do at QB, and that changes everything. I retract all of my previous disappointment. We have a plan, I’m willing to let it ride. Rosen isn’t my fave, but he’s a legit QB prospect.
agreed
I was listening to guys in espn talk about how the cardinals could opt to keep Rosen and I was like “get serious!”
The coach publicly covets their new draftee
They talked openly about trading him
He’s the walking dead in that team
That’s inviting locker room problems
We should be able to get Rosen at a pretty low price
I’m thinking one of our multiple day 2 or day 3 picks in 2020
But then again, I’m a 🦈
I smell blood
2020 4th round pick for Rosen
That’s my prediction
I know it’s low
We have them over the barrel
We do. Doubt we get him for a 4, although that would be an absolute steal
We don’t have to make a move anytime soon
And if we take a QB on day 2, they know they lose any shot at trading him to us
So there’s a lot of pressure on them now
They chose build around Kyler Murray
They really have to trade Rosen
2 of the 3 teams they were talking to drafted a QB last night
They don’t have a lot of option
Who are the viable trade partners for Rosen right now, other than us? I can’t think of one.
NE, they have 5 more picks in the top 100
I doubt they do it.
The patriots rip everyone off
So yeah – I can see them sweeping in and getting rosen for cheap
https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/04/26/arizona-cardinals-josh-rosen-no-draft-night-trade-first-round?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=themmqb&utm_medium=social&__twitter_impression=true
Totally agree with his conclusion that those are the only options for the cardinals
If the cardinals really waited to minutes before the draft before coloring a trade – they are idiots
Yep. If Miami does acquire him I think the good thing is you’ll have a guy who’s got a HUGE chip on his shoulder.
I think this move getting Wilkins is part of the 1st move of the plan, you shore up your Defensive line with the value pick, i doubt he will make a big impact on our win/loss totals as other positions may have made.
this will put you in a great position next year when the draft rolls around getting top picks thru-out the draft.
since the players and coaches wont tank this is the FO tanking
as for Haskins….. Mike….you will get to see him at the fest. i hope Wilkins breaks his legs!
i’d rather give up our 2nd and 3rd trade up and get Lock vs getting Rosen
No way. We wouldn’t need to give up a third anyway, maybe a 4th
This might be your charismatic leader on D!
lmao, dudes a trip, I think fans will really like him
if We can get Rosen, then We are truly on the right path to rebuilding in 2019, not 2020, crossing fingers on Rosen
OK here goes!
Draft JAYLON FERGUSON in the second!
Use the 3rd and both 7th’s to move up and get Greg Little!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m more in the Ferguson in RD3 thought, but people who get paid to do this have had him in rd2 for a while.
I love the idea of reading up into the 2nd from the 3rd – I always have liked those cost efficient trade ups
There are good players in the 2nd round that can help us build a good core
If we came out of the draft with wilkins and 2 other players up front who are top 60 prospects – we did really well for ourselves
But the pick in the 2nd round should be Winovich…😛
I’d definitely take Win, Allen, Banogu in the 2nd.
I wouldn’t mind Eric McCoy or Connor McGovern in the second
Interior OL would be very good
But my favorite is Deiter from Wisconsin
Maybe we can good a good center in the 4th or 5th round
I think C is a definite possibility in 2 then I think they might look at either Powers or Samia in the 4th if available….or Davis.
i also like Conner Mcgovern and had him in My mock
BTW – Not shocked at all that Metcalf fell far. Dude is waaaay too big, I think GM’s fear another David Boston
Exactly same thought I’ve had since right before the combine when he posted social media photos flexing.
Rosen is our last chance to avoid intentionally tanking.
if We get him, we are rebuilding the team, if We dont, its tank for tua time
D-Bolt – Do you like Erik McCoy?
Like him, Risner, & Ford if they go OL in RD2
In the end I’d still prefer one of the top DEs in round 2, but an OL starter is very important also.
I hate that we pick 16th in RD2, that’s quite a wait . . .
Of all the 1st round picks… No one had more passion than our DT Wilkins… In it to Win IT!!!
Go Phins!!!
This guy is just what the doctor ordered for our D. He is driven to win. You build championship teams around studs like him…
True. We plucked the the heart and soul player from the last 2 National Champs. Guys that know what it takes to win.
“Dolphins team to watch for potential Josh Rosen trade….
“The Dolphins are one of the few teams left where a link to Rosen makes sense, given that they passed on a first-round quarterback while the likes of the Giants and Redskins snagged their young signal-caller.”
And yeah the Giants and the Skins were the main ones reported talking to the Falcons about Rosen before…… other one was the Pats.
Full http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001028233/article/dolphins-team-to-watch-for-potential-josh-rosen-trade
there are some sources out there claiming Dolphins are in talks with Cardinals this very hour!
I sure hope they are right and We get last years first round qb from the cards,
Cards ramped up the Rosen trade mere minutes before the draft, they are playing hardball and trying to maximize the value they get.
cant blame them for it, since they just picked Murray Number one overall
im guessing they are hoping for multiple offers, and will take the highest or best one
“im guessing they are hoping for multiple offers, and will take the highest or best one”
Good guess, David. I’ve been working a spreadsheet for the last hour, and came up with the same conclusion. Did you just come up with that on the fly? lol
lmao, thanks buddy
lol, cheers. J/BB
13 pick DOLPHINS
Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson
This is my favorite pick of the entire draft so far. Love this pick. I think this kid is going to be a star. I was all over Grady Jarrett when he was picked and I think Wilkins could be even better. This is a good building block for Brian Flores and his staff. Grade: A+
NFL.com
holy crap, we like never get an A plus grade from NFL.com
this is rare for us
now all We need is Rosen,,,,, cmon guys You can ink a deal with the Cards
Too funny!
For those thinking we could get Rosen for a a six-pack o Natural Light……. there was a report that they were previously offered a 2nd for him. And guessing that was the Pats, which would mean lowest one there is.
That was a rumor prior to the draft and I believe it was something Arizona tried to put out to the media. Something like that I take w/ a grain of salt.
agreed they probably want more than a third round pick, and agreed its prolly the cheats trying to steal our lunch money, lets hope for the best, Ross has a new trick up his sleeve this year, he throws in cash to sweeten these deals.
imagine two teams are offering their second round pick, but ones offering alot of cash as well, hmmm Ross already did this on a few players, that are now on our roster
Hmmmm not sure how I feel about that report , let me check the meter…
(Piggy uses the time stone to get to the 16th pick in the 2nd round now)
Good Pick Dolphins!!!
Get Pokey to please Steve Keim and get us Rosen for a 2020 3rd
Nattie lite! That’s some good stuff! lol
Indigestion inducer
Greedy Williams CB still on the board, wish we could somehow land that guy.
Don’t be greedy David
We don’t need a DB
lol everyone needs a CB in a pass happy league,
outside of Xavien Howard, We dont have any CB that couldnt be upgraded by Williams
many had Williams as the highest rated CB
Williams and Howard could be 2 lockdown corners, that worked well for us before with Surtain and Madison
if We cant get Rosen, we should try for Drew Lock in the second round
You take this 2026 7th rounder Cardinals and you like it!
If i were planning day 2, this is what i would do. Given Denver selects before us, i would look to trade up before them, and take Drew Lock. If i couldnt manage that i would still wait until my pick to see which QB’s were left, Lock or Grier would be two i would consider taking at our 2nd round pick. If both are off the board i make my 2nd round selection, hopefully OL (Juwann Taylor if there isnt something really messed up keeping him from being selected), and then see if i can seal the deal on the thrid rounder for Rosen. If i cant get that deal worked out i make a QB selection in the 3rd, or 4th.
Mind just went blank – What’s it called when a you trade a future draft pick that has different value dependent on different variables like games played., performance etc. ?
Conditional?
Yessss!!! OMG, it was just eluding me. Thank you!
Alzheimer’s
onditional
oinkditional
Stanger, there were reports after that that only 2 teams had actually made ffers, us and the G-Men. Washington even denied ever having made an offer for him and they had been what the media has been saying was the one most hot and heavy.
I at least believe that when the report came out that the Giants, Skins, Pats and us had inquired that was true and the only teams that did so and yes that it was the Cards who put that out (Rosen’s agent had no reason to do so). On what an actual offer or not…. you can smoke that one a lot more. Says a guy who once planted things in the press at times. Not saying I lied, but sometimes made a little thing a whole lot bigger than it was. If you go “on background” you become one of those “unnamed sources” 🙂
Piggy – D is right, it’s an onditional pick you jerk!
Hey Cardinals…
Thanks for keeping this place going MikeE. Your hard work is appreciated.
You opinion however is WRONG!
LOL
He’s a shitty dresser too btw
Just draft day . . .
I loved it. Even my wife knew what it meant and forewarded.
D – It’s lzheimer’s. lol
oinkditional is when you give me whatever I want
Dolphins dream secondary
Xavien Howard and Greedy WIlliams at CB
Minkah FItzpatrick and Reshad Jones at S
These were my favorite players in the draft in this order:
Sweat
Oliver
Williams
Wilkins
Allen
Its sad that Sweat got his draft status damaged by a misdiagnosis. I smell a lawsuit lol.
dont sweat it, lol
Redskins lucked out, many thought and talked of them trading up to get Haskins, but Haskins was available for their pick without trading up
And they got a draft steal with Sweat
I know this is highly unlikely but i had heard rumors that Peterson was on trade block too. I would love to do a package trade, Rosen for a 3rd, and Jones for Peterson. Cards have some young CB talent, and Peterson is getting older and is expensive, Jones is the same for us, so a swap of contracts and Rosen for a 3rd would be a sweet ass trade. Fitzpatrick and TJ in the secondary, X and Peterson on the outsides and McCain in the nickle…. thats a pretty sick secondary.
That would be great. I’d be down wit dat!
JUST SAY NO TO TRADING FOR ROSEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We should just trade you and a 3rd for Rosen. Good deal and down one complainer to object to the trade for the next few years lol.
lol D
Rock – Anything for you bud! It could be wrong, but I’m still gonna spew it freely
Spew more! I love it. (I still disagree, but I love it)
Based on his power rankings have suspected for years that Pete Prisco is a Phin Fan…. suspecting even more after this. He might be right — but man is he excited.
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DOLPHINS
Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson
This is my favorite pick of the entire draft so far. Love this pick. I think this kid is going to be a star. I was all over Grady Jarrett when he was picked and I think Wilkins could be even better. This is a good building block for Brian Flores and his staff. Grade: A+
i get a free beer, look above, lol
Not sure if beer counts when you put it out something for another reason….. but for sure more than willing to get you one.
pheloniusphish says:
April 25, 2019 at 9:30 pm
Sweat would be Sweet
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lmao, for the thirteenth pick? hes not even a first rounder!
He was selected in the first round, making him, by definition, a first round pick. He was a top 10 talent who fell because of a health rumor, a la Tunsil and the gas mask. Try to stay with us or I may have to downgrade you to a half of halfwit. That would be a quarter wit, if you ran out of fingers and toes trying to figure it out.
dude sucked, he was not worthy of a first rounder is what i meant, try to keep up.
anyway chew on this he was selected 26 by the skins, You would have seriously reached for what skins thought was barely a first, and i thought a second
BPA at 13 < not reach, dimwit
Sweat would have been a major reach at 13
Wilkins Seems to have a Ray Lewis type personality?
I could only hope that he can get the team jacked up enough to run through a wall!
But not murder anyone off the field!
He’s a Dolphin now so Tim will defend him! 😉
😂
some of the top players available in the second
Drew Lock
Greedy Williams
Jaylen Ferguson
Conner Mcgovern
Would someone please e-mail me the application to join the HDS? I want to have it on hand just in case the Dolphins are stupid enough to trade for Rosen.
Highly dysfunctional Shitheads?????
Hating the Dolphins Sisterhood?
OK I’ve changed my mind!
I think we need to go OT then DE/Edge!
I don’t remember what exactly HDS stood for. They were apposed to the patience brigade. Back in the day.
H was for Henne and S pretty sure was for Society. Not sure what the D was for but after a while was just HDS. But seems we all have no choice but to be on the Patience Brigade these days, says a former member.
Dramatic much Mondo??????
Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero
NEW…Day 2 of NFL Draft: Miami Dolphins will make franchise-defining decision today
Rosen is our last chance to avoid intentionally tanking
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Rosen wouldn’t start over Fitz anyway. He will hold a clip board and learn for a season or most of it. So in your words we are tanking this year regardless.
its not my words that Rosen isnt starting over Fitzpatrick, those are Your words\
i never ever said that Fitpatrick would start over Rosen, in fact, i dont believe that at all
but an argument could still be made we are better even if ROsen did sit the bench, cause then we have 2 qb instead of Fitzpatrick and waterboy
but I would start Rosen over Fitzpatrick in a heartbeat, and if Rosen was here, he would beat out Fitz
Rosen isnt colorblind, he can target white and aqua jersies for us
All the talking head chatter you want in Rosen in one link.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nfl/cardinals/2019/04/26/josh-rosen-trade-market-dolphins-chargers-arizona-cardinals-quarterback-rumors/3588191002/
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And of course will point out the one guy who says what I said before:
Andrew Brandt@AndrewBrandt
Josh Rosen now becomes the best financial bargain in the NFL. Cardinals paid the bonus ($11 million); new team would get him for $6 million over three years plus a team option. Incredible value. #NFLDraft2019
Don’t know if this was posted:
Numerous teams reached out to the Cardinals over the last few months re a Josh Rosen trade. Keim didn’t get back to them about what it would cost until *yesterday*. Cards were still posturing that they might take someone else, like Q. Williams, instead of getting value for Rosen.
Ok if the H was for Henne, then I will be the founding member of the RDS if that stupidity should occur.
#RUNNYDOGSHIT
Exactly, I will become the founding member of Runnydogshit if they trade for that guy. #RosenDetractorSociety
I will spend the next year or however much time being the resident hater.
I don’t care if we trade for Rosen or not. Would not give up more than a 3rd for him and preferably a 2020 3rd. Didn’t care for him when he was in the draft. He’s a diva and not good enough to be a diva. He came out of college thinking he was the shit. Most of his college team mates didn’t like him because of his attitude. Maybe (big maybe) him being shopped and traded (for hopefully a 3rd) and basically getting kicked to the curb has humbled him a bit.
48 – OSHANE XIMINES
78 – Will Grier
116 – MICHAEL DEITER
Thumbs up, but I would be willing to double up on OL at 78 and 116. Then take Minschew in the 5th. Don’t know why, but have a gut feeling about Minschew. I think he will turn out better than Rosen or Lock. I like Grier better than Rosen or Lock also.
Also, Lock ain’t worth it in the second round.
yea, why bother with a qb
when we have the best qb in the league, Fitzpatrick?
we need Lock, Rosen, anyone not named Fitzpatrick unless its Minkah
No, that is a major fucking mistake. We don’t need “anyone” we need the “Right one” And he isn’t there. Unless it is Grier with a year to learn in the NFL.
Fitzpatrick is the right one?
Is it because of his lesbian haircut? (Mike E, his hair must have scared off 32 other teams as well)
Give me Rosen all day, every day. The smartest qb in last year’s draft and he’s got the ability to get it done. He’s a playmaker at the qb position.
Reportedly, we’ve been talking to ARI about it since last night. Even Larry Csonka is in favor of the trade. Get it done Grier. We go into this season with our franchise qb in place and this rebuild isn’t going to take as long as some thought it would.
that guy is not a franchise QB. he wasn’t when Ari reached for him last year and he is not this year next year or the next
yes he is.
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I think Grier could be very good in the Erhardt-Perkins system.
David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
April 26, 2019 at 1:36 pm
Fitzpatrick is the right one?
No, he is a place holder. We have guys on the roster already as good or better than Rosen.
You really don’t like Rosen for some reason. Did he have drinks at an airport bar with John Denney some time?
John Denney is a good player so there is a difference.
I’m just not a good enough at talent evaluation as you. Would say trust your take, but then others who I trust as well say differently. Do know his contract is cheap and he was drafted #10 last year though. Are you thinking he is a Ryan Leaf?
yea, why bother with a qb
when we have the best qb in the league, Fitzpatrick?
we need Lock, Rosen, anyone not named Fitzpatrick
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You were just clamoring for Greedy Williams. ???
there are alot of players i like,
if we sign Rosen, i think Williams would be great in our secondary
if we dont sign Rosen, we have to make a move for a QB, or Williams wont be able to have as much impact if FItzpatrick keeps throwing games away”
we all want the same thing, the team to be rebuilt, the only disagreement is which players where, thats an annual event, lol
but its a given if FItz starts 16 games , tank was the agenda. we wont win more than 3 games with Fitz imo
if the fins avoid getting a QB, it will be evident whats going to happen later
consider if we struggled winning games with Tannehill, its not going to be nearly as easy with FItz.
i wont prejudge Fitz interceptions anymore, but once we have a couple dozen interceptio to jets, cheats bills, and others defenders, at that point it will be obvious what the game plan was if the fins dont bring in a serious upgrade to the interception machine
that would make our day!
Watch the video. Nothing is done yet, and nothing may ever happen.
i watched the video, and im hoping we can get this deal done!
Please not in the 2nd round. Maybe I could live with giving our 2nd and swapping 3rd’s which would move us up to #65 from 78.
Lou, I will agree that Rosen has potential. He is a smart QB and has the arm talent but I stated above why I don’t like him. If he can get over himself, be humble and come in with something to prove then he has a chance in the NFL. Right now, I still feel he is boom or bust.
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I think all that stuff is overblown.
^^^^^^^^^ Foolish = nice for STUPID
Before the draft was reported they would only accept a first. Asking now is our 2nd I take it and by not 3rd means might be able to make some change btwn the two.
we have the worst QB in the league, we have NOTHING to lose bringing in Rosen
What do ya have against Ryan Fitzpatrick? Statistically, Josh Rosen was the worst QB in the league last year.
Fitz was tossing ints in the NFL long before Rosen was ever there. and Rosen at least had rookie excuse, FItz is a veteran
look at FItz stats, he tosses interceptions at an alarming rate, for different teams, different coaches, etc
Rosen was a rookie last year, and struggled, but should have some upside with better coaching
Fitz is maxed out, no upside
except draft capital. Why not just give them our third to keep him. We will be a better team an you will be happy because we wasted the pick.
Foolish for Miami to do that for player who had 392nd worst season of 396 QBs ever rated in ESPN’s QBR formula history.
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and there ya go
foolish isnt a fact,
its Barry Jacksons opinion
foolish is thinking Fitzpatrick is the best QB available