All I asked for was a plan. Even though I belong to one of the the most prestigious Miami Dolphins Fan Blogs, oddly enough I wasn’t privy to the plan. Despite extensive conversations that I’ve had with Chris Grier, he and I are great pals, he never told me. He’s that good! Seriously though, it’s not the guy I wanted, but I’m thrilled to have Josh Rosen as our QB.
Just think how bizarre the circumstances are how Josh Rosen ended up on our roster. The 10th pick of the 2019 NFL Draft to the Arizona Cardinals did not have a great season last year, but when you look at the team he played for, and take into consideration that the HC Steve Wilks was fired after one miserable season, it’s easy to understand what Rosen was up against. Full disclosure, I didn’t want Rosen last year, and I preferred Dwayne Haskins this year, but I reiterate, I’m thrilled he’s a Miami Dolphin.
Josh Rosen is a highly intelligent QB, and that should fit right in with Chad O’Shea and what he wants to accomplish. If we’re following the Patriots model, be smart with the football, don’t turn it over, and get points on every drive. No pressure for Rosen to start immediately, but I’m thinking Fitzmagic is going to have a fight on his hands to start the season. The compensation we gave up is minimal, the #62 pick (practically a 3rd RD pick after our trade down) this year and our 5th RD pick next year. That trade back also netted us a 2020 2nd RD pick in exchange for our 4th RD pick. Well worth it!
Josh Rosen the QB was rated as one of the top QB’s in last years draft, rated by some as the top QB. He’s NFL ready, he knows how to stay in the pocket and keep his eyes downfield, not on the rush. He can process an NFL offense easily with his football intelligence. In 2017 for UCLA, he completed 63% of his passes against the blitz. He doesn’t necessarily have a better than average arm, but neither did Tom Brady, and he turned out OK.
So now we have a super high character, physically talented, dominant DT, and add to him a highly rated QB prospect with one year of NFL experience under his belt (even if it was a miserable year!) In the 3rd RD we selected Wisconsin OG Michael Dieter. 6’5 307, there’s nothing special physically to mention, but the kid can play. He’s played all 3 interior positions at Wisconsin as well as 14 games at LT where he was a first team All Conference pick.
So far I have to say we’ve accomplished an awful lot so far. I honestly wonder what is going on in Josh Rosen’s mind. I hope he embraces this most unique opportunity with unbridled enthusiasm. It’s almost like we saved him, he should feel born again (Not religiously!). I hope he comes here humbled and thankful for a wonderful new start and opportunity. Hopefully he’s our successful starting QB for the next 10-15 years. GO DOLPHINS!
#staythecourse
PS – ARZ has paid all of Josh Rosen’s bonus money, so we’re getting a great financial deal as well!
PPS – Toba – Thanks so much for the photoshopping my friend, I appreciate it man!
Finsmob Unleashed 
I like how he does not get lost in the wash.
Like, there is all this trash and then he is still standing and has very quick first steps to pounce.
ORob — Michael Deiter has played T, but sounds like G is his best position. I’m not as down on Jessie Davis as you and think will be some stop-gap guys on the line…. but Dieter could end up at RT.
Depends what plans they have for Chris Reed and the AAF guys.
I thought Reed was for depth and those other guys for camp bodies.
Gonna be more than a few OL and DE guys on the opening day roster not on the current one. But who thought the trenches would be completely rebuilt in the draft? Way was always gonna be.
Sterup is going to get a shot at RT too.
Drat … There goes Joe Jackson.
“Is she really going out with him”?
Van Ginkel ran a 4.56 at the Wisconsin pro day
too far to go to expect any quality now; our last 3 picks are just practice squad level.
unlesssss ….
ginkel had a pick 6 against Ohio State
You are correct Stanger. From late FA you mean? and other teams’ cuts?
Those and think as open as our roster is, particularly at DE and the OL that we will be one of the top choices for UDFAs. Think will be a bunch of them in camp.
D’Andre Walker gone.
Ginkel projects to be a practice squad guy, unless hes a demon on ST
he isnt very physical, doesnt shed blocks easily, and isnt a good edge rusher either
he also got some bad coaching, so there is a chance he has some upside, time will tell
from NFL.com
Van Ginkel is an Unimposing 3-4 outside linebacker with decent athletic ability but a concerning lack of aggression as a run blocker and consistency as a pass-rusher. Van Ginkel has the motor to tally stats with effort and secondary rush, but he needs a better rush plan and more proactive hands to set him up for success in attacking the quarterback. He will need a lot more strength and toughness to hold up as a run defender, but his length and production on special teams could give him a shot at the back end of the roster or on a practice squad.
Where did he get bad coaching?
Western Kentucky
Good answer David….. if you had gone with where he was getting coached the last two years the board could have turned ugly.
lol Stanger got my sarcasm and joke. i didnt want to argue, just evaluating the prospect.
actually im not saying he got bad coaching, he just needs better coaching, like NFL coaches to help him bring out better hand skills for his pass rush, therefore I believe He has some upside at the next level.
its not a knock on Wisconsin that the NFL has some damn good coaching
Van Ginkel earned third-team All-Big Ten honors in 2018 when he started 11 games and had 46 tackles, seven for loss, 4.5 sacks, two pass breakups and one blocked kick.
In his first year at Wisconsin, he had 6.5 sacks and two interceptions.
Van Ginkel played outside linebacker at Wisconsin and also has a lot of experience on special teams.
He began his college career at the University of South Dakota before moving to Iowa Western Community College and finally Wisconsin.
Van Ginkel graduated in December 2018 with a degree in agricultural business management.
In the 2017 Orange Bowl, he had an interception and a sack against the University of Miami.
I see OT Edwards is gone
yeah dangit and Sutton Smith too now
We drafted Rip Van Winkle
lol rip van Ginkel
Bryan Cox
Jim Kiick
Zach Thomas
Reshad Jones
Andrew Van Ginkel 🙂
OT Mitch Hyatt is still there but we pick toward the end of the sixth. Feels like we are finishing up with 3 7th’s.
Western Kentucky
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1. Didn’t know their coaches were bad.
2. Don’t think Van Ginkel played at Western Kentucky
3. I guess the last 2 years under Wisconsin coaching means nothing.
lol sorry, it was bad sarcasm, to avoid a big argument about Wisconsin has no coaches, etc
i really wanted to emphasize i feel he has upside, because our coaches can bring out the best in him. this is what You get in the fifth round, diamonds that need polishing
Minschew to the JAGS. I think he might surprise everyone if/when he ever gets the chance.
Yes, agreed
David
I don’t think he went to Western Kentucky.
“He began his college career at the University of South Dakota before moving to Iowa Western Community College and finally Wisconsin.”
from Dolphins site.
yes , i know, see post above, but thanks buddy
I don’t get spending a 4th round pick on a punter??? Is that really the best player on your board at that moment???
Did some one do that?
its an australian punter too
49 ers selected Wishnowski P from Australia in the 4th
Wisconsin runs a pro set on offense which is why their OL does so well and they run a lot of stunts and loops with their LBs which is why they have good stats without good athleticism.
Seems like van Gink is a smart player with a full motor. Just what we want.
He’s also 240 that runs a 4.56 so that is very annoying for TEs to try to shake off.
No way would I practice and play in the heat with that much hair. Some of our guys have played with dreads, but have also noticed that after a while many of them decide not such a good idea.
naplesfan2010 says:
April 27, 2019 at 2:30 pm
How did Rosen acquire the nickname “Dogshit”?
From the biggest Stephen Ross fan. LOL
lol
I still see a handful of good depth players that I want … do not want to jinx them so won’t name them (Belks, evander, buggy, mercedes benz, Hedy LaMarr, the artist formerly known as , Weber State, Dailey show, grandson, gascon, Dex ND, Hyatt hotel, Ivy, ledbelly)
And my favorite is the super sub Huggybear from CU.
Grier must’ve decided his job was to make me smile this draft! 🤟😄
Glad You and Bookman are having a good draft!
Randy, what do you think of Michael Deiter?
See my 2:29 post, LOL
Randy — how do you see Van Ginkel fitting in on the team. From what have read does not sound like a hand in the ground guy.
I’ll chime in. No not hand in the ground, exactly what you see on tape. More OLB than DE. He’s a multiple.
What about 10 picks to go?
We have such stupid beat writers
Barry Jackson thinks we are going to draft a starting CB in the 5th round who will come I. And take he job from Rowe, McCain or tankersly
I don’t think these guys understand the draft
Piggs with the understatement of the year.
I like Jackson, but have a feeling from the draft he is realizing how profound the rebuild is and that it will be bringing his clicks down next year cause won’t be competitive.
“his clicks down” rotflmao
We have 7 draft picks – DL, QB, OL, LB, ?, ?, ?
We can’t address every position at the top of the draft.
seems so obvious, doesn’t it?
Strike I. Buggs from list above.
Idiot Metcalf shows up to Seahawks meeting shirtless,
so Pete Carrroll whips his shirt off, too.
I love that.
Show the rookie how silly he is,
how it’s gonna take more than a social media moment to make it with real men.
Strike Dex the ND RB from my list.
If Rowe is healthy he’s the boundary starter opposite Howard. Minkah and McCain more slot but can play outside too at times, Tankersley, McTyer and Armstrong compete for playing time. I don’t see a problem at corner.
totally agree with that
Not a huge fan of Ginkle outside of his name. As mentioned earlier, ST and sub packages which is not starter quality obviously. On the other side of the coin, our mgmt sees huge issues we’ve had for years and is addressing them. We haven’t guarded TEs worth a…darn for years and this guy should be able to do that on 3rd and 10. etc.He should eventually be able to apply some much needed spot pressure and I can only hope he’s half as good as ole Trace Armstrong in that role.
I see him as more of a Ninkovich/Van Noy type OLB.
jalen jelks
te’von coney
beau benzschawel
Beau please
I want a guy who’s name I can spell right though November
Mitch Hyatt
Watch Dexter Williams in Green Bay. If his head is on straight, he can be explosive.
yep i wanted that guy thinking we could get his mind right
just 2 more; they can’t take all 10 of my guys.
Looks like a Pats LB doesn’t he? 🙂
he does, annoying over achiever always in the right place at the right time
By the way, he is an Edge guy. Not a pure DE pass rusher, but a multiple blitz/stunt/drop LB.
nice
Tim,
I like Deiter. He’s not a superb athlete, but he plays with good technique. He is gonna need to get stronger because he’s not great at dealing with power. I think he’s a starter sooner or later. He might be our best guard already, sadly. He’s also played LT, LG and C…and played them all pretty well. I think it’s certainly possible he starts right away, but I think he needs a couple years in the weight room to come into his own.
Good evaluation. I see him as more of a lunch pail football player than athlete.
Prince or Beau?????
stanger,
I don’t really know much about Van Ginkel. I know I wrestled a deaf kid from his hometown in 1982. Lol
the artist formerly known as …
yay we got him!!
Another Fatty!
Stanger
I don’t think this idea is exclusive to the rebuild
I imagine Jackson has a chart that says: “RT, CB and DE” and he hasn’t been able to check them off – so he’s sad about the draft
Days 1 and 2 it’s legitimate to have an expectation that your draftees will start
But why does a professional sports writer think Flores is going to start a 6th round rookie at CB just bc the vets aren’t all pros?
This deep in the draft teams should be looking for talent that fits what they want to do that they think the can develop – not checking off “oh I got my RT”
The good teams have a tier of players they develop and that’s what this part of the draft is for
Maybe you find the next zach Thomas – but I think odds are pretty low of rhatbkccuring. But maybe you find the next Bobby McCain – that’s realistic
Pig — completely agree with all of that and think they are doing what needs to be done. Was just looking at from his perspective. We all get our own personal motivations in play, and think he is more “win now” cause of what he does for a living and how his own product is measured at work.
prince? Google machine here I come
Isiah Prince is a nice pick
I guess Jackson can check off Right Tackle now…lol
LOL
Rated higher than where he was drafted. He has that “CHANCE TO BECOME NFL STARTER” tag. 🙂
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/isaiah-prince?id=32195052-4948-3688-d3f2-077638b364a5
So we pick again in 29 picks, lol
and 30
At least we go back to back and be done with it. LOL
Prince was a three-time All-Washington D.C. Metro pick at Eleanor Roosevelt High School in Maryland before heading to Columbus to play for the Buckeyes. The top-100 overall recruit played in all 14 games as a reserve lineman as a true freshman, then moved into the starting lineup for all 13 games at right tackle in 2016. Prince was a 14-game starter on the right side in 2017, using his large frame to earn third-team All-Big Ten honors. He was a team captain and first-team all-conference pick in 2018, starting all 14 games at right tackle.
And that is at the top level of college teams.
https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2019/3/1/18245786/ohio-state-offensive-line-isaiah-prince-2019-nfl-combine
coach him up … except for his locked up hips, everything else on his weaknesses list is coachable. … maybe not the stiff legged stance but that is sometimes improvable in the weight room with work on the thighs. Sometimes it’s too genetic, but then that is why he is a RT only.
If he were perfect, he would’ve gone in round 1.
He has some serious historical potential that he has not developed.
Whoever decided to put Peter Schrager on the draft coverage should be fired.
Isaiah Prince
Height: 6’6″
Weight: 305 pounds
School: Ohio State Buckeyes
Combine Performance Data
40-yard dash: 5.09 seconds
Bench press: 23 reps
Vertical jump: 27 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 7 inches (fourth-best among offensive linemen)
Three-cone drill: 7.90 seconds
20-yard shuttle: 5.02 seconds
An immensely experienced player who spent four years cutting his teeth against high-level competition, Prince is a physical specimen with a plethora of traits coveted by NFL teams. It includes a set of long arms which suggest he can consistently generate leverage at the point of attack. He’s an incredibly fluid mover who rarely lets speed rushers turn a corner on him. And his competitiveness, as well as his mean streak, should endear him to teammates and coaches alike.
But in order to get to his ceiling, Prince needs to exhibit more play strength on the field. That shortcoming stems from the fact that he struggles to achieve optimum leverage due to lack of knee bend and not dropping his weight. It leads to issues with his anchor and contain and makes him susceptible to getting bullied by elite speed to power conversion. Another thing he must improve upon to become a more complete tackle is playing with more active hands.
All in all, Prince projects as a middle round pick who will likely play on the right-hand side almost exclusively at the next level. Though it’ll take time for him to make his mark in the NFL, all indications are that he has the ability to eventually do so. His pro career may indelibly mirror the trajectory of his college career in that he’ll likely occupy a reserve role early on but grow into a starting-caliber player as his time in the league progresses.
^
GOD HE SOUNDS LIKE A PRICK!!!!!!!!
LOL
Should do well in interviews.
he thanked the fans, thanked his teammates, wished Murray Luck, and says he is excited to come to Miami.
Dudes a total class act IMO, Welcome to Miami
He also gave Murray real estate options. LOL
lol not bad!
Interesting rebuild draft. DL, QB, OL, Edge/OLB, OT… hmmm… what was that about building the trenches and finding a young QB? 😉
’bout as good as you can hope for, huh?
Pretty… pretty… pretty… good! Josh Rosen was drafted when last year? Asking for a friend. 🙂
RB Homer gone. oh well
still got some left on my list.
gerald willis
jalen jelks
te’von coney
beau benzschawel
Wyoming
I know right?
Compare that to Haskins who says “the whole NFL fucked up and they’re all gonna pay.”
I’d much rather cheer for Rosen.
Rosen did say something similar after the last draft. “Nine mistakes were made ahead of me. And I will make sure over the next decade or so that [those teams] will know that they made a mistake.”
Think confidence and fire in a QB good though….. unless goes too far.
ooops
good call Stang.
I forgot he said that.
my bad
I was going to say the same thing. LOL
Nothing wrong with being confident. How many prospects say I’m the best at my position in the draft? Lots of them.
and Wilkins who was in the facility 17 hours after being a first round pick.
He says he was looking for coaches to start learning the playbook.
“Ready to stop doing interviews and get to work.”
Prince has some long arms, and he’s got some explosion, pretty good broad jump. I hate the 23 reps, but that’s 2 better than Dieter’s. Those guys both need to hit the weight room hard
so I was talkiing with my son about that and he was saying “how many times does he need to push back a DL in one play sequence before getting a rest in the huddle?”
If he can do a 1-3 rep max of at least 300 , that is fine and matters more than 35 reps of 225.
Of course I fully agree with you that they badly need a NFL weight training regimen.
This is a good CB still out there
Saivion Smith, ALABAMA
Kris Boyd, TEXAS
I’m not a fan of Prince. But, he does have some nice attributes. He’s a project. His technique is definitely questionable. Both his hands and his footwork are less than what you’d like. But again….he gives you something to work with. Late 6th rounders aren’t usually clean players.
^
Thing about Prince, Deiter, and even van Ginkel
They competed against the absolute highest level of college players.
Not like we “found a gem [acorn] at Montana State or Marist” like Terence Fede (whom I did like.)
These guys are being judged against Top 10 rated teams.
Naples – It’s just one metric, one that shows that strength and endurance. It’s definitely not the only factor. I would prefer that OL and DT do at least 25 minimum, but those long arms are something to take into consideration. It’s much harder with 35″ long arms than 32′ arms
all very true
With linemen a lot of power is generated from the legs too. Mike Tyson knocked dudes out cold with punches from his feet through his torso to his hands. Attitude and toughness is also huge. Both guys play physical.
Daley gone from my want list, but we don’t badly need another RT prospect now.
ok Mike Weber gone, the OSU RB.
I still think we need a 3rd string RB.
RB Travis Homer gone
I suspect we are going to play Jesse Davis at RT
Who’s our RG then?
Chris Reid…maybe Deiter
Beau B.
We haven’t drafted Beau yet
We could get an Cut player for the vet minimum!
yeah – that would be nice
Too early to call.
Anyone here familiar with CB Jordan Brown, S. Dakota St. ?
yeah
bengals just got him
Doh!
just 10 more to go
Prince got 17 penalties called against him last year. in ONE year!
thats not gonna make it at the next level, he needs to be more focused and diciplined
That was all on Haskins.
I hear he has a funky cadence to him and mumbles in the huddle.
so an OL has no obligation to watch the ball being snapped?, i cant blame 17 penalties on Haskins, sorry buddy, but i feel like Prince can stay put until the ball is snapped
He’s a project with upside.
Savion Smith would be a very good pick up in the 7th.
Didn’t realize he was available!
Anthony Johnson, BUFFALO- WR
I hope we don’t play Davis at RT. It will get ugly.
my thoughts too … you can sorta hide him at RG, but I do NOT want to expose him in space.
The Flying Pig says:
April 27, 2019 at 5:10 pm
We haven’t drafted Beau yet
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YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do we grab our FB here? Is he still available?
very well might
patriots always have one, right?
(Belks, evander, buggy, mercedes benz, Hedy LaMarr, the artist formerly known as , Weber State, Dailey show, grandson, gascon, Dex ND, Hyatt hotel, Ivy, ledbelly)
and huggyman from CU
down to:
(Belks, evander, mercedes benz, Hedy LaMarr, grandson, gascon, Dex ND, Hyatt hotel, Ivy, ledbelly)
and huggyman from CU
No that was a great call Mike E.
You nailed it.
Moreland was a good prospect too!
he has six , pick sixes, but a little smallish for the NFL
not gonna get top talent this late on day 3, lol
just try and get someone You can work with and bring out their full potential
He’s gone
Huggins and Gaskins please
Maybe Tyrel Dodson LB Texas A&M
Anthony Johnson
BUFFALO
Beau Benzschawel
WISCONSIN
Saivion Smith
ALABAMA
trade back and get all 3!!!!
^^^
If you are gonna have 2 picks in the 7th…. good they are back to back. Should be a rule about that.
All 3 are there!
Lets see??????
Fricken commercial!!!!!!
They go to commercial EVERY time we pick! C’mon!
Always
not Asafo-Adjei to the Giants !!
dang I coveted that guy at RG
WE HAVE A FULLBACK
We took a FB
Woohoo a FB
Well there is a FB!!!!!!!!!!!!
My dreams have come true!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is better than just a plain RB like I was calling for!
FULLLLLBAAAAAACKKKK
great call BBM
u da man!
will ESPN actually get past BOTH our picks with commercials and talking about other teams?
Oh, MIami had two picks, did you see what Chuchy did?
Little Myles Gaskin!
That’s interesting?
But Gaskins is pretty good!
He’s had a ton of carries for Washington
I like Gaskin
Lot of miles on those wheels
But he plays hard! You guys will like him
it says on the clock but it is showing Mules Gaskin did we draft him too?
and my man Gaskins
well I’ll be damned we took him anyway.
That completes my dance card guys
and take that local beat whiners.
Rockphin says:
April 27, 2019 at 5:42 pm
will ESPN actually get past BOTH our picks with commercials and talking about other teams?
Oh, MIami had two picks, did you see what Chuchy did?
Reply r
OMFG!!! THEY DID!! THEY FUCKING DID IT!!!
Woo hoo! Nice draft boys and girls!
Now we really need to get Huggins from Clenson and Jelks form Oregon as UDFAs.
plus Benzstrudel and 15 WRs like we usually get.
I’ve trying to get them to draft a FB for 20 years!
Well maybe not 20.
But since we went West Coast offence anyway!
Pretty solid draft