As you all probably know already, the Dolphins made some cuts yesterday, not reporting this, just recapping what’s happened. One of the bigger surprises was cutting DT Akeem Spence who we picked up last year from Detroit for a conditional 2019 7th RD pick. Also somewhat a surprise was cutting safety T.J. McDonald. Not surprising was parting ways with OL Will Holden (Not to be confused with actor William Holden). We also waived OT Jordan Mills who when we first picked him up after Buffalo released him I thought he may be our starting RT this season. The way he performed for us in practice and in the preseason made it clear that wasn’t going to happen. Also waived were LB Chase Allen, and veteran TE Clive Walford.
Now to the big news. The Dolphins met with Jadeveon Clowney yesterday, although Clowney did not deem the Miami Dolphins originally as a potential suitor. He preferred the Seattle Seahawks, but after meeting with Dolphins HC Brian Flores, his opinion may have changed. At the moment, it actually seems as if the Dolphins are the team most likely to land Clowney, but at what price? Keep in mind, the price is two-fold. We have to trade talent to the Texans in exchange for Clowney, and then we have to pay Clowney. He signed a 1 year deal worth just under $16M, but what happens after this season? Therein lies the rub . . .
I had to drive from one office to another yesterday and I had the pleasure of catching some good dialogue between NFL Radio hosts Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller. Pat Kirwan is not the foremost authority on everything NFL, but as a former HC and NFL GM, he’s well respected in NFL circles. Kirwan was very much against the Dolphins acquiring Clowney and made some excellent points. He was saying that Clowney hasn’t been a premier player while playing with J.J. Watt. This reminds me of tha situation the Dolphins had years ago. Flash back to the year 2002 when the Dolphins had Jason Taylor and Adewale Ogunleye. That year, Taylor had 18.5 sacks, Ogunleye chipped in with 9.5 sacks. This is a similar situation, it really is. Clowney having the benefit of possibly the most disruptive defensive player in the game hasn’t ever achieved double digits in sacks. BTW, Ogunleye only achieved double digit sacks once with CHI, and only once (10) in 2005. Granted, Watt hasn’t been able to stay healthy, but I’m loathe to give Clowney a huge contract when he’s never been a game changer. He’s young, he’s only 26, but where’s the beef? Understood he was injured his 1st season in 2014, and maybe had a hangover from that injury in 2015. Where’s the explosive stats after that? 24.5 sacks in 3 seasons. Sure, it’s better than what we have, but is it worthy of trading top talent away and then backing up a Brinks truck and paying him handsomely after too? I wouldn’t do it. 2015 Watt had 17.5 sacks and FIFTY QB hits. Clowney?4.5 sacks, 8 QB hits.
To me this more about getting a name than production, and as Naples mentioned, all too similar to acquiring Ndamukong Suh. I know we need help at DE, I’d rather run with the young guys who have shown some promise than really overpay twice to get Clowney, one in trade compensation and two having to pay some exorbitant contract for him over the next few years. I don’t think he’s worth it. Nothing wrong with kicking the tires, but don’t please don’t make the purchase!
Finsmob Unleashed 
I would be very happy with a young and dynamic TE room of Gesicki, O’Leary, Smythe, and Myarick.
Jets cut 3rd round rookie LB Jachai Polite.
soooo happy we took RG Dieter instead in the 3rd.
Odd to cut a 3rd rounder so early
I would sign him
noooo you don’t want that guy in your locker room.
Guy was a real cancer from the time he left college. What a waste.
Boise St one of my favorite teams of the week! Go Broncos!
Dammit
Isaiah Ford, WR (via Barry Jackson)
Dewayne Hendrix, DE (via Adam Beasley)
Terrance Smith, LB (via Miami Dolphins)
I can’t disagree though and am very happy that we keep those young RBs and TEs.
Bedwetter I mean Ledbetter apparently made it. I was surprised he went undrafted.
Hendrix a surprise, pretty sure they hope to have him back practice roster for
Definitely PS
Happy Birthday and congrats on making the team to Nick O’Leary
I like nick
So are ya looking for a beefaroni cookbook now ?
I got the throwback recipe cans so it’ll actually be good like when I was a kid.
I’ll eat it all, night take a while
Well I’m glad ya didn’t need it , and that shit never goes bad/worse 😄
Will he still make T-Day with you guys now that on the 53? 🙂
Pardon ?? 😳
Shula and Nicholas families are tight. 🙂
Texans traded for Carlos Hyde
Are we at 53?
So this means we kept Hurns ??
Did Leach make it?
Son, Memphis won! Beat SEC team Ole Miss. LOL
Your boys came out hot
We kept 10 OL, but when 9 of ’em suck, you need 10.
We kept Hurns over Ford.
Tough because Ford earned a spot,
but Hurns is a thousand yd NFL receiver, and you can’t overlook that.
He’s looked like crap last 2 years and can’t recall him doing anything in PS ..
Oh well Go Hurns 👍👍
I know. I would’ve kept Ford.
But nobody is going to poach Ford,
so we can keep him for when
Parker’s dandruff puts him on IR.
Only 3 DE, but of course our DTs can play DE in 3-4 and all those hybrid sets.
Ledbetter has a devastating punch. You can put him in there just to wound people.
Lol
Walford was cut earlier in week right ?
yep
I like the kid Myarick as the 4th TE.
He gets open and has PLUS body control
for when Fitz slings a wild pitch at him.
Okay thanx .. I thought so but if kept him and cut these others I’d be upset… DAMN zone I know why Myarick don’t ring a bell .. I have yet to watch PVR of the saints game
Jacob Eason is another QB to follow this year. He was starting for UGA and got hurt was replaced by Fromm and transferred to Washington. Starting out well against E. Wash, 14-20 for 177, 3 TD, 0 INT in first half.
well gotta go consume my cane supplies fast, so they don’t go bad.
What’s the shelf life on 3 qts of tequila, 5 bottles of prosecco, and a case of Stella?
i can repurpose the limes onto the half dozen avocados and live off quac as my veggie.
Nice. 👍😊
Damn
ballsy Jags cut
the president:
(DT Lyndon Johnson)
Shocker for me is keeping 5 RB’s + 1 FB.
Patriot way plus Walton will be suspended.
Biggest shocker for me besides what BBM said is keeping Terrill Hanks.
I did not see him flash, so he must be real steady and look good in practice.
28 Offensive Players
22 Defensive Players (only 7 DL)
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Certainly a little more roster churning left.
Minkah can play DL.
LOL — and long snapper too.
nooooo only the Great John Denny can long-snap.
(Minkah can edge rush though.)
LOL
Hurns over Ford really gets me. Surprised!
I like Ford, but think that was about possible upside…… even if Hurns ends up not with us next season.
Honestly,
I just read down the “final” roster,
and I like this team.
This looks like a solid, competitive team.
Probably gonna revist that statement in a few
uh oh
Indy has only 1 QB on the roster.
Is the blog broke or no one sees the news yet?
we traded tunsil
and stills
Davenport I guess we got an OT in the trade
Fucking stupid
But whatever been here a lot lately
so Who blocks the blind side?
2 1st, a second and 2 players
Rosen just became thankful he was not named the starter.
K it’s kinda funny watching PS game 4 post cuts..everyone making plays has been cut
So you guys who apparently know aren’t even gonna say who we traded with?
Texans
This is a blockbuster! Dolphins getting bigger haul for Tunsil, Stills than Oakland got for Khalil Mack last year. Miami will also get couple of players – Julian Davenport and Johnson Bademosi and give a fourth-rounder in 2020.
Dolphins gonna suck in 2019. But they are thrilled.—— per Mando
We get a first in 2020, a first and second in 2021, OL Julien Davenport, and Johnson Bademosi.
I think the last guy is a male cheerleader.
Sorry , what did we get/give with Tunsil ?
Nm .. got it
Houston
Not too many surprise cuts as we don’t know a whole lot about many of these guys.
I have to give it to them it’s a pretty big haul. I think losing Tunsil though is hige
Depends on who you listen too.
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Mike Garafolo@MikeGarafolo
The #Dolphins are getting a massive haul of picks back from the #Texans: two first-round picks and a second-rounder, sources tell me, @RapSheet and @TomPelissero
Are both OL ?
davenport is 6’7 325 out of Bucknell, 24 y/o
Well, this year is definitely in the trash. I like the trade in returns but the team will be trash this year and I doubt next year’s draft is full of instant starters just add water. Why in the hell did we trade for Rosen? There’s no way in hell he learns how to play behind another garbage OL so that was a completely wasted trade. Grier kinda looks mentally incompetent right now.
????????? Mentally incompetent? Wow, fans sometimes really think they know more than paid professionals… wow… harsh
Of course they do and sometimes they are right? What’s with you always thinking professionals are always right? Is the doctor always right? Did all those one year NFL coaches do a great job? Did the fired GMs do their jobs gret all the time?
Tell me. Why did they trade for Rosen if he will have a terrible OL? What great training(in real action) will he recive running for his life every game? Did it benefit other QBs who never had a great OL? Andrew Luck for instance?
To me it looks like Grier is doing a complete rebuild. But yeah that includes whoever the QB is might be in for a tough year.
2 1s and a 2nd for Tunsil and Stills? There has to be more to it, but even if not ok.
That’s enough for me. My only problem is the Texans picks might not be good ones.
other guy is a UDFA CB from Stanford
Okay so after posting what I said above I read we traded Tunsil and Stills. Team overhaul in full effect. LOL
So with our new first we can get a great new rookie LT.
whoopyshit.
So Sterup is your starter against the Ravens or we play a new to our playbook LT in a week?
Let me know how the team does this year because I cannot watch
You sure as heck are gonna watch the next draft. We’re going Browns.
Watson is a happy man today .. new RB, LT, and WR …
Now let’s see what this “revolt” looks like
Why not trade X now?
shut up, they might hear you.
LMAO at everyone posting how the players and coaches just want to win
Why did we want so badly to trade Tunsil?
Did he not get along with Flores?
Or was his value on the trade block just too good to ignore?
We are just too dumb of a franchise
It really seems that way. We have a roster full of practice squad guys but next year’s draft will definitely get us there. Pinky promise! Just wait one more year Dolphins fans!!!
I think I read we also gave them a 4th rd pick
read that was the back as well
Grier really wants to Tank fro T’ua and he doesn’t care what Brian Flores wants lol. Poor Flores has nothing to work with. I like the haul but that sure assumes we will find better talent than Tunsil and how many times has that occurred? Based off terrible OLs for decades…not too often.
You think Grier is acting alone?
Probably not. That’s just my funny thought. Grier and Flores in a tug of war for competent/last place. Grier just won lol. He single-handedly threw the entire other team past the line.
holy draft capitol batman! MTP? LOL how about CTP
I guess I gotta wait and see, but they are certainly stocking up for the next few years.
I am betting the under on the 3 wins on the Vegas line
New Age, the OL has nothing to do with acquiring a QB.
True but the OL has a lot to do with live evaluation of the QB. Maybe they think he learns it all from the bench? I hope so because this OL will destroy the guy throwing passes.
Maybe quantity over quality ?? We have 3 new OL last 2 days , minus Tunsil.. I’m pretty good with math , but this don’t seem to compute ..
Wonder why we get for Kiko , cause it sounds like he’s on way out …
Hendrix is killing it against the Saints , who did he piss off ??
What not why ^
So now we don’t have to “worry” about extending a LT for another few years.
Because we don’t have one worth paying.
Outside of X, do we have anyone worth extending? Seriously, how many experienced guys do we have that aren’t older or JAGs?
No one
Might have had nothing to do with it, but hard not to notice that Stills is on his way out of town after he went after Ross.
Yeah that is likely not a co ink e dink
The bademosi kid is a ST ace
Our ST looked pretty good in PS .. is what is Go Fins !!🤷♂️
naplesfan2010 says:
August 31, 2019 at 5:54 pm
So with our new first we can get a great new rookie LT.
whoopyshit.
Or if you are targeting a left handed QB in the draft next season a decent run blocking LT and a great pass blocking RT (both later type picks)
Hurns in, because Stills is out?
It sure seems like they wanted to trade Tunsil for a while, at least its consistant with not playing him much reducing the chance he gets hurt.
You don’t trade Tunsil unless you don’t value the position. I think the answer is pretty obvious.
Maybe so. That’s crazy to me but I guess we’ll see later. After having terrible OLs for over a decade, maybe this is the way to go.
That haul is what you normally get trading up for a number 1 pick. My feeling though is they won’t necessarily use it like that maybe an OT and something else
News Flash:
Minkah is being moved to offense, will cross train at all OL positions.
All 5
His Momma gonna be pissed 🤡
I picked Deshaun Watson last night in FF 😁
psychic
Next draft we should have 2 firsts, 3 seconds and 2 thirds.
The second is a 2021 second.
Wasn’t out before but cool enough. Means 2 ones and 2 twos in 2021 as well. Plus we have cap room coming. Doing it like the Browns.
The 2nd rd pick is in 2021 so it will be two 1st and two 2nd the next two years unless we load up for the QB in 2020. Might not have to trade up now though.
Is Jake Long’s little brother coming out next year? Asking for a friend lol.
So does this mean they do not think Rosen is the guy?
or it’s still too early to tell that?
I’d say too early to tell. But wouldn’t it be great if he was the guy.
I’d say too early to say.
Yes we are tanking for Tua
Or longing for Lawrence in 2021
I am not going to be all doom and gloom about trading Tunsil. Though, why didn’t we complete the trade before all the cuts were made? If they were working on trading Stills, Why not keep Ford?
My guess is they have someone else in mind. As I said before, berrios is a better fit and will be much cheaper.
Tunsil being a healthy scratch the entire preseason was the clue. X played as did other starters but not Tunsil and now we know why.
It does make sense in some ways, well in a lot of ways even though I’m fairly certain Tunsil would have been a building block. Still only two years on his contract before they were up against a wall and you get a young OT a STbace and possible DB contributor an extra 1st for the next two years an extra second for next two years and you rebuild with your guys in the draft with a guy you have for 5 years at LT instead. Again it doesn’t mean we then trade away everything for a QB we might get a DE and LT next year that helps set us up this team better.im sad to see him go but like I said earlier it’s about the future as well as the now so let’s see how it goes
The rebuild is for real.
It always was just not tanking
Laquon Treadwell just got cut
he’s a bum.
Bookman,
I apologize. My response was a bit harsh but everyone makes mistakes and GMs, coaches, etc are very fallible.
Couple of thoughts before I leave for a bit. First, I understand the move, the return was awesome, and maybe it works out. But Jimmy was about as good of a drafter as anyone who ever did it…and he called it a 50/50 crapshoot. Tunsil is an elite LT. He’s been healthy, and will anchor an OL for at least another decade. He’s a direct hit, a complete win, the total package in an elite position. It sounds risky as hell to completely demolish the team and hope you build it back in a 50/50 crapshoot and in FA. Especially seeing all these players getting injured all the time.
Second set of thoughts. Rosen was taken by using some of those picks. He will now practice with a barely functioning NFL OL with barely solid WRs, and TEs against a better D. This may make him better or he may just get used to doing a lot of dump passes. I don’t see how that benefits his growth a lot. I don’t see how our defense prepares for a real NFL offense playing against the offense we will be putting out in practice every week. This team will be lucky to get 2 wins.
I think that’s why he isn’t week 1 starter to let the OL get settled out. I said this before Tunsil was headed out, but probably after the trading of Tunsil was already bin their minds
I hope OD stays away for a few days lol.
Tunsil was solid even if I never thought great, but we just got two first rounders for him or maybe more. Stills wasn’t worth much.
I think Rosen still likely our guy for the future we will know though after he takes over
Patsies cut Demaryius.
16 games of watching Fitzpatrick running for his life
You are gonna be in the stadium to watch Rosen’s first ever Phins start….. least that is my call.
Better get ready for heavy doses of gamma radiation
If I was doing things now after the trade I really am thinking top OT next year unless Rosen just really shits the bed. If he does move up get your QB and if not take the OT take a DE that fits your system. Pick up another OL and CB in the second. Lawrence just put up a stinker in Clemsons opener. Tia looked good but against a poop team. Hebert gets to go up against a pretty decent defense in Auburn so we will see on him. There is Fromm, Love (who also played pretty bad) and I’m sure several people who are going to show up out of nowhere. It’s not like we have no options
I’m feeling like I’m Timming it up with my positive outlook. Kinda creeping me out
LOL
What I dont get is why you guys assume we need to trade up to get a QB in 2020.
I dont think losing Tunsil and Stills really matters that much, we’ll see.
I think the team is good enough to be outside the top 5 still. I don’t think we need to trade up and I’m still not convinced we even will need to draft one next year
Too much left to evaluate to start making that call
Losing Tunsil mattered….. but look what we got back. Stills not so much.
Now it’s a matter of if I keep Sunday ticket this year lol
I am seriously thinking of giving it up.
Wow, kinda speechless about the Tunsil trade. I guess that means we have a revolt on our hands?
Think it means the unnamed source on the revolt was Greir trying to drive up the price.
The team is rebuilding the entire roster just a bit more extreme than we initially thought.
As I said before, berrios is a better fit
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D, good call. I actually mocked him to us a couple times. When the Pats drafted him, I thought there is their next Edleman.
I was glad to hear Barrios was cut. I also thought he’d tear it up in NE.
Stills was a take this guy off my hands move, a cap savings + removing a guy who wasn’t going to be team first with how he felt towards Ross and therefore the organization.
I’ll miss Stills as a player.
But I dont think the team will. Maybe Wilson now starts on the outside.
We’ve got enough picks next year to replace Tunsil, but it will be interesting to see how LT plays out for us this year.
D, all to your QB list possibly Jacob Eason of Washington. He went 27/36 349 4 td 0 int today. Ok, its was against Eastern Washington, but he is one to keep an eye on.
I’m just stuck on figuring out who is our LT for the Ravens game.
The O-Line is gonna be a mess. No doubt about that.
Looking back on all things Tunsil, I just really think Flores never warmed up to him.
Sterup is better at run blocking than pass pro. We kept 5 RB’s, 1 FB and 4 TE’s.
Me thinks we are going to be running the ball A LOT!
Texans also got Carlos Hyde, a guy from Naples High. Good RB.
Did not grow up here however.
Albert Breer
✔
@AlbertBreer
Full terms of Texans/Dolphins trade, per source …
Dolphins get: 2020 first-round pick, 2021 first-round pick, 2021 second-round pick, CB Johnson Bademosi, OT Julie’n Davenport.
Texans get: OT Laremy Tunsil, WR Kenny Stills, 2020 fourth-round pick, 2021 sixth-round pick
Damnit! I wanted that 2021 6th round pick!
GRIER!!!!
Terrible trade for this year and perhaps next, but incredible trade for perhaps next year and certainly well beyond. I called it on Stills’ days being limited with us, but holy cow, we traded our franchise LT in Tunsil? Bittersweet… that’s all I’ve got.
I’m ready to fast-forward to Draft Day 2020 right now… and now you can take the UNDER on whatever Vegas has to say for us this year.
What doesn’t kill ya will only serve to make ya stronger… and we will be coming back STRONG in a couple of years. Hang in there, fellas… it’s a good year to be watching college football.
Next year, depending who comes out early, could be a huge QB class. More than just Tua (who again didn’t really impress me today), Herbert and Fromm. Love, Eason and Ian Book of ND are a couple more who all have potential.
So now we have next season 1,1,2,2,2,3,3,5,7 and in 2021 1,1,2,2,3,4,5,6,7
Is that how many points we’ll score each week?
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Because if we’re “Tanking for Tua”, we’re going to need an elite RT.
Two firsts is why you do it.
That certainly helps our cause(!), but I think there may be a tea leaf to read here, as well.
yep, Rock already called it. Not that you don’t get credit as well.
People have been talking about it on Twitter since the trade was made. None of us can take credit for as much… not that it really matters. 🙂
The numbers are there but I saw quite a few passes off the mark but were caught cause the receivers were wide open. There is just something about him that tells me he will struggle in the NFL. I just wonder how good his numbers would be if he were not on the best team in college football and have the best WR in college football. He struggled and Duke held them scoreless in the 1st qtr. It wasn’t until Dukes D got wore out being on the field most of the game where his numbers started going up. Dukes offense was only on the field for 23 min. That’s a wore out D. lol
This does suck because I had hidden hopes for this season. I got tickets to the Phins/Pats game with high hopes for an upset. Going with a friend who is a diehard Pats fan. Glad we are not traveling together or it would be a long 10 hour drive back to Pensacola. LOL