I would like to think after seeing what QB Ryan Fitzpatrick has done for the Dolphins so far this season that the decision to go forward with Josh Rosen as the starter is going to happen as early as Game 3, away against the Cowboys. In very limited time yesterday, Rosen had 2 potential TD’s dropped in the same drive, one to Jakeem Grant and one to Preston Williams, both very catchable balls that were mishandled. Obviously when you lose 43-0, who starts at QB isn’t the only issue, but the notion that the veteran QB gives them a better chance to win on Sunday simply can’t be true.
I said it before the season that the Dolphins were putting a lot on Eric Rowe’s plate. If we had 2 poor CB’s, he wouldn’t see as much action as pass attempts would probably be divided more equally, but with Xavien Howard on the other side of the field, teams will always look to exploit the weak link. Rowe has struggled here as the starter, after being used sparingly in NE for the past 3 seasons. Rowe started only 12 total games for the Patriots, and it’s pretty clear why. Rowe is not up to the task, but our depth at CB just isn’t there, with Jomal Wiltz, Chris Lammons and Johnson Bademosi.
I look at our O-line and D-line and think “Who are these guys”? If I told you Jesse Davis would be our LT a month ago you’d surely laugh. If I told you veteran DT John Jenkins, formerly of the Saints, Seahawks and more recently the NY Giants would be our starting RDE in our 3-4 base you’d say “huh?”. I love Godchaux, glad to see he’s still with us, but surprising he’s at the nose instead of DE where Jenkins is. Jenkins is 330lbs, you’d think they would flip flop those 2. Rookie LG Michael Deiter has been OK, and veteran OC Dan Kilgore is doing his best. Tough task for Kilgore with Deiter on one side and newly acquired Danny Isidora on the other. Now, veteran J’Marcus Webb is our RT, not LT. Good job Naples, you called the Webb signing!
Then there’s the Minkah defection. Here’s Minkah’s strengths in his draft profile:
Strengths
- Loves ball, lives ball
- Extremely competitive play demeanor with a history of showing up big in the biggest games
- Versatile chess piece with experience all over the field
- Can step right in and cover the slot, play high safety or handle nickel linebacker responsibilities
- Good feet with ability to transition backward and forward smoothly around the field
- Gets to top chase speed quickly
- Can become rangy safety
- Able to stick a foot in ground and drive to the ball
- Plays with “ball-man” vision of an off-ball defender in basketball
- Has awareness from zone to make loads of plays
- Has nine career interceptions and four pick-sixes
- Has downhill mindset as a hitter
- Plays off of blocks and into tackling position
- Dangerous blitzer off the edge
- Attacks line of scrimmage from high safety look in run support and welcomes physical challenges
- Special teams ace with 22 career coverage tackles
So where the heck does this 2nd year player come off not only complaining about how he’s being used, but actually asking for a trade? Some here want to defend that? Clueless! We’re on Game #3, deal with it! To me, this may be the most disappointing development so far this season. The team invests a high 1st RD draft pick on this player and he has the audacity to request a trade in only his second season. Garbage!
It’s been nearly impossible to make any kind of evaluation on our running backs or even our WR’s. We’re -92 in just 2 games, so how can you evaluate anything? Our RB’s have a total of 23 carries for 52 yards, and Kalen Ballage has 5 yards on 9 carries. Ugh! Of course the O-line and also the level of competition we have played factors in (Ravens, Patriots). It doesn’t get any easier as we play the Dallas Cowboys in their house. Dak Prescott is playing out of his mind so far, Zeke is just getting back into the groove, and the defense which looks to be pretty good behind DeMarcus Lawrence and Leighton Vander Esch hasn’t hit it’s stride yet, but will have a much easier job against us. Our best hope is the Cowboys look past us as they play at New Orleans the following week (w/o Drew Brees).
Going forward, I want to see Josh Rosen in at QB. I can’t stomach the sight of Ryan Fitzpatrick leading this team any longer. If there was initially the thought that Ryan Fitzpatrick gives this team the best chance to win, that thought certainly has perished. Our QB alone won’t elevate our team to victory, but it looks clear to me that Josh Rosen is the more talented QB at this juncture, he can make the throws that Fitz can’t, so it’s time. I’d like to see J’Marcus Webb at LT and Jesse Davis at his more natural RT spot. He looks slow and overmatched at LT. He will still be slow and overmatched at RT, but at least his mechanics are more familiar there. We have to get some offense going, it’s been dreadful. We complained for years that scoring 17-19 points a game doesn’t cut it during the Tannehill era, well now we’re down to 5 PPG, and that must change NOW!
I want to see Chandler Cox in the backfield in some power formation and let’s make some noise! I think Rosen can give us a little spark, but all the other pieces around him have to work at a high level in order to be competitive. Gesicki is slowly coming around, he has 3 catches for 42 yards. If I told you after 2 games that no receiver or running back has not yet reached 100 total yards yet, would you believe it? Who’s closest? WR Preston Williams has 87 yards receiving. We just have to run the ball to open up the passing game. I saw Fitz play action fake about 20 times yesterday and defenders didn’t buy more than 2 of those. They were coming after him and frankly it looked silly. We need to have a few sustainable drives or our defense will be toast before we get to the BYE week. We need all hands on deck, and that includes the mutinous Minkah. C’mon son, you’re a better man than that, TEAM FIRST!!!!!
GO DOLPHINS!!
#staythecourse?
Finsmob Unleashed 
I hate the Jest, but I’m glad those roughing calls are going to cost the Browns some points. That was some BS.
Tim.. Sorry Bro.. I can’t connect Tiny Tim with Jimmy Page. I see the resemblance but fuck man..
lol.
LOL
You know I’m a big Jimmy fan so there is that. 🙂
Luke Falk in at QB after Siemian is hurt on a roughing the passer.
Falk immediately throws a one yard pass.
Gase Way.
Jets fans go wild as they successfully kick a field goal. Lol 🤛🏻
I hope they suspend Garrett for the Phins game.
Pffft.. if it happens ya KNOW it will be VS NE…
All 4 Jets completions are 1 ya behind LOS.. 🤯🤯
I yard
jests ended up 4/8 for 4 yds passing in the entire first half
Mayfield under 500 at 11/23.
Want to see a great band play live…
I think the Jest are almost as bad as us. We might be able to keep it to a 2 or 3 score loss when we play them.
Embrace the suck!
well when you put it like that ….
so on 3rd and 2 at the Browns 12 Gase tries to pass for it and fails,
so then on 4th and 2 they pass again and get 1,
so they turn it over on downs at the 11.
That’s some pansy playcalling there now.
and the Browns throw it to Beckham for 89 and the TD. BANG. rotflmao
Damn was hoping for Ryan
There is still time to trade Fitzpatrick
Holy fuck
If they screw this shit up after all these picks and money coming their way……..
Ssshhhhh. We try to forget Irelands Can’t Fuck it Up Draft
The Steelers are 0-2 and rothliaberger is out for the season
say goodbye to Minkah!
that could be a great pick with roethlisberger hurt and out for the season. they are already 0-2
🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
LOL
I didnt even get a chance to buy Minkahs Jersey
but you thought about it … that was enough … the thought police …
M13 you called it
Let’s take a Tackle with the first pick again
It doesn’t matter they won’t be on this team in a few years
Wonder if there is any more coming our way. Kept hearing a first and either later round additional or player in swap.
Let’s trade up for a drug addict
X’s tweet after the announcement.
Minkah will be great in Pitt. Watch they won’t fuck around they’ll give him a job and he’ll kick ass.
I already think that defense was on its way to being a good youngnone
I think Minkah is a perfect fit for them
Their offense is fucked though
I think you will be right. I don’t think that changed the fact that it wasn’t going to happen here anymore. By the time you make a move like he did, asking for the trade, it’s pretty much over or there is a helluva lot of contrition to be made and that’s not how things go these days.
Oh yeah there was no doubt in my mind he was gone
Well at least the stej suck too
Son, it’s not on the phins. He asked to seek a trade, they didn’t shop him. He walked out we didn’t push him out
good riddance
get that Satan trash outta here.
I wanted a DE anyway.
Now we can draft one.
Is this pick this coming draft or the next one?
2020 – this one
Next, we have 3 firsts now
By next I mean – the next draft 2020
I hope Rosen works out. It would be nice to be able to use those picks on other positions.
With 3 firsts if we don’t draft a QB it will go down as the biggest blunder in team history and the blunders are piling up if you haven’t noticed.
It’s a deep QB draft and 2021 will be too because I bet some of these guys go back for another year. I don’t think we have to take a QB next year, but I’d be ok doing it too. I want them to get their guy but like I was saying. I’d really like for Rosen to be that guy and I don’t think it would be a blunder if they went with a guy they have if he has been playing well instead of rolling the dice on a new guy.
I dont love it
But if it ends up being a top 10 pick…I’ll be much happier
Right now I think we have 3 1sts 2 2nds 2 thirds (if we get the expected 3rd round comp for James) 7 picks in the first two days. Damn.
Yup
More young talent leaves the building. This rebuild is gonna take awhile.
Maybe we trade for Jalen Ramsey
🤷♂️
I don’t think his attitude is good, he’s a show boat, but he fits our system better than Minkah or at least in the way they were wanting to use Minkah
I thought we would trade Minkah for Jalen Ramsey.
That would have worked for me
I think Minkah might have wanted to go back closer to home. They wouldn’t have okayed a trade to the Jets. Pitt was probably the best closest thing
Piggy, they have to play the Ravens twice, the browns and Cincy twice which at best they probably split with both. That’s 4 losses right there to go with the two they already have.
Well, we still have a player with high-end talent (X), and one trending that way (Baker). Might as well try to complete the hand.
Don’t get too attached to them
Oh nm for some reason I thought Minkah was from NJ.
he is
Full terms of the Minkah Fitzpatrick trade:
— #Dolphins traded CB Minkah Fitzpatrick, a 4th rounder in 2020 and a 7th rounder in 2021
— #Steelers traded a 1st rounder in 2020, a 5th rounder in 2020 and a 6th rounder in 2021
Okay
The 4th/5th and 6th/7th swap is openly silly
Who thought they had to add those to make it even?
I think those 2nd rounders are going to be high second rounders
So keep that in mind
We might get the best of the first that fell to the 2nd round
QB DE T
CB DE
T S
That looks pretty good.
I’m going to play Rosen colored glasses.
OT/Pass Rush/CB
OG/S
DT/OT
edge edge edge edge edge – until Tom Brady is hit so much he accidentally makes out with his wife instead of his son
Considering how badly Minkah was playing, i am actually ok with this.
He said he was too light to play in the box.
I interpreted that as he was scared.
I want Gase to crazy eyed freak on Jamaal Adams and he winds available
We could actually bring TJ back. Like we did Carradine.
He’ll knock the snot out of somebody for ya.
He was my favorite player in his draft class not named DeShaun, I hate that he’s stej
Sorry I was talking about Adams
Like I said earlier when M13 was purposing trade with Pitt. I think I would have like to have gotten Isaiah Buggs back if they were trying to even out things. He was a 6th round pick and that’s pretty much what the swaps evened out to
M13 didn’t call it, Jason La Canfora the con artist did. LOL
My bad I thought he was saying that s what he thought
Wanted to make sure to give credit
Son
I liked Adams, but it’s unlikely that we could get him.
Ramsey is possible though.
I think he would like to play for Flores more than for Marrone.
Oh I know. It’s a pipe dream.
Ramsey I’m down with. Him and X – Yes.
What position player does Jax need?
A lot lol, WR if we wanna throw Parker out there. My guess though is the want picks back.
They’d have to replace Ramsey
But they had Telvin Smith retire so maybe thin at LB
We can draft 5 QBs with our first 5 picks in 2020 and see if we can turn them into 10 picks for 2021
2020 will be such a different looking team. Sorry to see Minkah go because he wants to go.
ok unless someone hears that fitzmagic is going to stej for Adams now that Falk is their only healthy QB, I’m gonna hit the sack.
That’s a sweet dream, right Son?
Dream on
Dream until your dreams come true
I’m gonna live on the hope that Rosen can be a good starter and use him sparingly this year. Draft my guy next year and trade Rosen yet again next year with the same hope we have for him.
We are loaded to turn this team around to the point where it at least resembles nothing we’ve had the last few years when it didn’t work out. Wow!!!!
Cap space will be huge and draft picks will be off the charts. This is a real “BLOW IT UP” scenario. Wow!!!
I’ve lost track of what our picks are and sites seem to have the same issue.
2020 Draft
1a. (Top 5-MIA)
1b. (Top 15-PIT)
1c. (Top 20-HOU)
2a. (Top 5-MIA)
2b. (Top 20-NO)
This is preliminary but all three of our trade partners lost their QBs.
They gonna need about 15 more picks and hit on them all just to start losing only by a score or 2…..
This is going to take more than next offseason…..
We have three 1’s, two 2’s, possibly two 3’s and a $100M in cap space in 2020. That’s what…. 12 top new players we don’t have now. The entire team is different.
When you say “This is going to take more than next offseason…..”, do you mean championship or in the playoff mix?
2019 is the cleansing year however it goes. 2020 we will have the resources to add a lot of talent both rooks and prime talent. No reason to hold off on that.
I would trade Rosen to Jax to get Ramsey in a second. Him and X would be redicules.
I’m surprised that Pittsburgh did that, I don’t recall them ever trading for a player and giving up their first rnd pick.
they are a team that builds through the draft.
I don’t think Ramsey would fit on this team. we seem to get rid of the loud mouths not trade for them.
if we do get the #1 pick in the draft and we also have 2 other selections in the draft we should trade back at some point, preferably with the #1 pick.
say if we traded to #13, we could get two 1st, two 2nds and two 3rds that year and the coming year as tenn did in the rams Goff deal, we would still have three 1st rnd picks this year and next.
if it were me i would keep producing first and second round picks for future years in this manner.
if you keep doing this you will have a team loaded with early round picks.
just selecting players with these picks is a waste as some will not pan out, you have to keep producing these picks and the law of avgs will be in your favor.
Damn! Minkah gone? I hate that he was able to force his way out. I hate that he was our first round pick two seasons ago. But I like that we got at least what we used to pick him in the original draft.
According to Cameron Wolfe of ESPN.com, the Dolphins are getting a first-round and fifth-round pick for the 2020 NFL Draft and a sixth-round pick in 2021 from Pittsburgh in exchange for Fitzpatrick, a fourth-round pick in 2020 and a seventh-round pick in 2021.
Yeah, no harm no foul. Had potential, but wasn’t exactly setting the league on fire.
Unsurprisingly, the Biplanes are committing penalties at a rapid pace.
I wonder if Minka knows what the Steelers record is?
Appears to be a number crop of QB Don’t sleep on Jalen Hurts next year. If Miami ends up with the 1st pick, somebody is going to want it badly. They can trade back a spot or two and get a ton more picks or stay and use what they have to get pretty much what they need.
Bumper crop, not number.
the sad part is we may have to endure losing next year as well, you get these new players in and it will take some time for them to get to their potential, will we be ready next year to sign long term fa;s? we may just stick with one year deals to get another influx of rookie talent in 2021.
You may only get 1 year out of these guys so we better win fast! 😉
3 first rounders in the bag 29 more to go
I want the phrase “the Dolphins are now on the clock “ to be as common as “attention K-Mart shoppers “
LMAO. Soon, that phrase will just be in the history books. Similar management teams from what I’ve seen the past 20 years.
Hey, now we can draft a LT, S and . . . Oh, wait
I recall seeing on twitter some Dolphins fan who had just purchased a really nice white throwback Minkah jersey. SUCKS!!!
Did he have wings and no pants?
No, not the Pigster. Feel bad for the guy, he seemed so happy
That’s basically what happened with my Ajayi Jersey
He was traded 2 weeks later
BYE BYE Minkah! I wish you nothing but to be on a team of whiny fuckers just like you and many high quality player defections from your team
This is not how I would have done a reboot, but at least we aren’t getting 4th and 5th round picks in return. Grier has shown he can draft dexently. I’m just hoping none of these trades were done in vain. With all these rookies, we are going to be like the NFL equivalent to the Michigan Wolverines fab five.
Piggy – The NFL truly does mean Not For Long
Supposedly, this is our current draft picks (rounds 1-3) based on projected SOS and minus comp picks.
Rd 1- 3rd
8th
22nd
Rd 2- 34th
47th
Rd 3- 65th
…so we are looking at probably 6 picks in the first 65 picks overall.
RGS – I wonder in those projections which team is going to be worse than ours
They currently have Jacksonville #1 and the Jest #2. It will all obviously change week to week.
With only 2 games played, I know there are ties right now with SOS.
Lol, that’s like talking about the 2021 draft now.
I’m seriously thinking about going to the nfl shop and seeing if they will make me a jersey that says
TanneLandryTunsilMinkahDionAjayi
With a number of 00
For your $$$ they will do anything you want
you could have a jersey like a scoreboard, this way when they dump your favorite player you could light up the scoreboard and change the number.
the thing that has me puzzled is why the stealers? they have always had their 1st round pick since 1967, they don’t trade their picks.
i wonder who’s calling their shots now because this is out of character for them.
I question what they were thinking too
But maybe they think Rothislberger has a few years left
They have a pretty good young D and Minkah may be the cherry on top
They can be the number 1 D in the league maybe as early as this year
They are hurting on offense bc of the Rothlisberger injury and losing AB and Bell
But if you consider that both AB and Bell were not 1st rounders, the stealers probably think they can be replaced
And if you don’t think rothlisberger is ready to retire – it may be worth it to add them DB that can take you over the top
https://twitter.com/missdana4/status/1173909747629731840?s=21
LOL
The Flying Pig says:
September 16, 2019 at 11:35 pm
edge edge edge edge edge – until Tom Brady is hit so much he accidentally makes out with his wife instead of his son
Does he normally make out with his son?
Haven’t you seen the weird video of him and his son exchanging a long kiss
it almost seems as the stars are aligning.. with Ben hurt that pick may get very good and now with brees hurt we could ha 5 picks in the top 50!
Root for a Watson injury for the trifecta
LOL, from Tunsils assignment!
Nah, he’s my Quattaback in FF.
I agree, so let’s now root against the Steelers and Saints and hope for the best.
Kenyan Drake might be next,
Drake leaving would be a great NE move.
3rd rnder
i here we will have 126 million in cap space next league year.
Wow! The question us how do we spend it? I’d try to win next year.
nah they won’t spend it…haven’t you heard? Ross is cheap!
sarcasm
with that cap space we could take on a bad contract and buy an early 2021 draft pick as the browns did with osweiler
Rob,
I was thinking the same thing about the Steelers. I can’t ever remember them trading away their #1 pick.
especially after ben goes down for the year, do they think they still have a shot? why not just ride out this year and be in a position for a great pick?
If it turns out that way, 5 picks in top 50, we should use those 5 to pick starters game 1 2020.
What positions should they be at?
DE, LT, QB, RG/C, and CB? Then add in 10 mid range FAs, to go with Jones, McCain maybe back to slot, X, Baker, McM, E, Harris, Wilkins, Godchaux. On O Ballage, Wilson, Parker, Grant, Gesicki, Deiter, Kilgore, Davis.
We could be pretty good by years end.
out of those 5 picks we should trade back on some of them to stock our 2021 draft and the same the next year for the 2022 draft, keep those early picks coming to build a true dynasty.
LGBTQI?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/dave-hyde-does-anyone-really-understand-what-the-dolphins-just-did/ar-AAHq3Ll?li=BBnb7Kz
This article sums it up for me. Especially when looking at a number of Grier’s other 1st and 2nd rd picks: Gesicki, McMillan, Harris, Wilkins.
These aren’t exactly knock em out of the park picks. Has Wilkins even played yet? Grier’s two best 1st rd picks were Tunsil and Fitzpatrick…
I mean we’re crowing about getting a likely mid 1st rd pick for a top 5 draft pick talent one flipping year after we drafted him. What are the chances we get a player with as much potential?
I understood this year was going to suck and we were going to be terrible. But how do you get any of the players still here to buy into anything? And we’d better hit on the majority of our picks next year or we’re looking at multiple years at the absolute bottom of the league.
No crow from me. I’m pissed we made this trade. I’m glad we got a 1st RD pick, if they traded him for less, I’d be furious.
I’m pretty frustrated about this trade too. Even if the Steelers end up in the top 10 with their 1st, it’s still a bad move IMO. We’d better kick butt in next year’s draft.
Kong, we’re going to spend our picks replacing the talent we traded away. It’s like running on a treadmill, we’re not going anywhere. I suppose we don’t have to draft a safety 1st RD, but we probably will with the LT
I know we got 2 picks for Tunsil, but I didn’t really get that trade either. These are 2 strange trades
But we received another 1st and an a 2nd for Tunsil
So yeah – it’s hard to find LTs and you can’t find a good one deep in the draft
But we are getting more than that with the Tunsil trade
The Minkah trade isn’t my favorite bc, we just need to replace him. My guess is we won’t spend a first in safety
Boooooooooooooooooooo. No fan of Minkah
SMH at this on a number of levels. Oh well, what’s done is done. I’ll say it again, and leave at this. We’d better have a great draft in 2020.
Bring on Dallas!!
Nothing we can control. Just have to hold out hope it all works out eventually. For the time being, we could at least put a competitive looking product on the field and only lose by 20. Lol.
Piggy – Tunsil was playing well for us, and he was healthy. No guarantee you draft a LT in the 1st that they play as well and are as durable as Tunsil.
Luke Falk looked pretty good last night, right?
The difference between starting fresh with draft picks instead of players is that you can focus on one area and make that your team identify (if you hit on the picks)
The Dolphins can draft QB, OL, OL, RB, WR
They can draft QB, Edge, Edge, DB, DB
They can do whatever
They can also chase Free agents like Brandon Scherff
5 picks in the first 2 rounds can really build an identify
And we don’t have an indemnity
Yes we have a ton of holes
But if we can be good at a couple of things, then fill the holes – we can build a team that’s hard to beat
I’ll also say one thing for Flores. At least he’s consistent. None of this win some games and look like a contender then lose some games and look like a pretender to get our hopes up only to fizzle at the end of the season. We are losers straight across the board so far.
Have they announced Daniel Jones as the starter?
That should say Drew Brees not Eli. They said this during the game last night.
That makes sense. Good chance it’s all 3 of them. That’s the word around NY radio stations, that Eli may sit this week, and Daniel Jones will make his debut
This stat is VERY interesting… and telling.
That is shocking to see Mahomes so low on that stat. I watched him on Sunday. He had over 180 yds on just 6 completions in the 2nd quarter (this isn’t hyperbole or exaggeration). And they were all deep throws, not 2 yd screen passes that went the distance. To be fair, the KC offense didn’t do much the rest of the other 3 quarters, so…
Still, surprised to see that stat.
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So there’s that.
Miami Dolphins – The Dream Makers…
D says:
September 16, 2019 at 11:35 pm
Like I said earlier when M13 was purposing trade with Pitt. I think I would have like to have gotten Isaiah Buggs back if they were trying to even out things. He was a 6th round pick and that’s pretty much what the swaps evened out to
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Thank you for the props last night, and man… I sure would have loved getting Isaiah Buggs in that trade.
And yes, I called for the trade many hours before JLC mentioned 6 different suitors, the Stealers* surprisingly being one of them.
The Stealers* biggest weakness on Defense has been the Safety position… ever since Troy Polamalu retired. I was sure they’d be interested, and they sure were.
https://twitter.com/TwitterMoments/status/1173946230361284609?s=20
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Get well soon, Alex. I’d wager $1B that you can beat this.
#FuckCancer
Bottom line with the Minkah trade is we bought 2 years on a rookie contract, just hope the pick equates to a good starter.
The thing that all of these teams at the top have in common is QB, maybe we have that in Rosen, but we still need to draft a QB in 2020 or 2021, unless totally sold on Rosen.
As much bitching as I’m doing now, and I’m not done yet, lol, if we can secure a franchise QB in the next draft (or determine Dr. Rosen Rosen is it), I can live with everything else that has happened.
Maybe we can trade our later 1st rd pick to ourselves for our early first rd pick and get a couple of early 2021 picks in return. #Draftception
LMAO!!
That would only be fair we gave us our 6th in return for our 5th too, otherwise it’s questionable