Dolphins walloped by Patriots in 43-0 shutout

I would like to think after seeing what QB Ryan Fitzpatrick has done for the Dolphins so far this season that the decision to go forward with Josh Rosen as the starter is going to happen as early as Game 3, away against the Cowboys. In very limited time yesterday, Rosen had 2 potential TD’s dropped in the same drive, one to Jakeem Grant and one to Preston Williams, both very catchable balls that were mishandled. Obviously when you lose 43-0, who starts at QB isn’t the only issue, but the notion that the veteran QB gives them a better chance to win on Sunday simply can’t be true.

I said it before the season that the Dolphins were putting a lot on Eric Rowe’s plate. If we had 2 poor CB’s, he wouldn’t see as much action as pass attempts would probably be divided more equally, but with Xavien Howard on the other side of the field, teams will always look to exploit the weak link. Rowe has struggled here as the starter, after being used sparingly in NE for the past 3 seasons. Rowe started only 12 total games for the Patriots, and it’s pretty clear why. Rowe is not up to the task, but our depth at CB just isn’t there, with Jomal Wiltz, Chris Lammons and Johnson Bademosi.

I look at our O-line and D-line and think “Who are these guys”? If I told you Jesse Davis would be our LT a month ago you’d surely laugh. If I told you veteran DT John Jenkins, formerly of the Saints, Seahawks and more recently the NY Giants would be our starting RDE in our 3-4 base you’d say “huh?”. I love Godchaux, glad to see he’s still with us, but surprising he’s at the nose instead of DE where Jenkins is. Jenkins is 330lbs, you’d think they would flip flop those 2. Rookie LG Michael Deiter has been OK, and veteran OC Dan Kilgore is doing his best. Tough task for Kilgore with Deiter on one side and newly acquired Danny Isidora on the other. Now, veteran J’Marcus Webb is our RT, not LT. Good job Naples, you called the Webb signing!

Then there’s the Minkah defection. Here’s Minkah’s strengths in his draft profile:

Strengths

  • Loves ball, lives ball
  • Extremely competitive play demeanor with a history of showing up big in the biggest games
  • Versatile chess piece with experience all over the field
  • Can step right in and cover the slot, play high safety or handle nickel linebacker responsibilities
  • Good feet with ability to transition backward and forward smoothly around the field
  • Gets to top chase speed quickly
  • Can become rangy safety
  • Able to stick a foot in ground and drive to the ball
  • Plays with “ball-man” vision of an off-ball defender in basketball
  • Has awareness from zone to make loads of plays
  • Has nine career interceptions and four pick-sixes
  • Has downhill mindset as a hitter
  • Plays off of blocks and into tackling position
  • Dangerous blitzer off the edge
  • Attacks line of scrimmage from high safety look in run support and welcomes physical challenges
  • Special teams ace with 22 career coverage tackles

So where the heck does this 2nd year player come off not only complaining about how he’s being used, but actually asking for a trade? Some here want to defend that? Clueless! We’re on Game #3, deal with it! To me, this may be the most disappointing development so far this season. The team invests a high 1st RD draft pick on this player and he has the audacity to request a trade in only his second season. Garbage!

It’s been nearly impossible to make any kind of evaluation on our running backs or even our WR’s. We’re -92 in just 2 games, so how can you evaluate anything? Our RB’s have a total of 23 carries for 52 yards, and Kalen Ballage has 5 yards on 9 carries. Ugh! Of course the O-line and also the level of competition we have played factors in (Ravens, Patriots). It doesn’t get any easier as we play the Dallas Cowboys in their house. Dak Prescott is playing out of his mind so far, Zeke is just getting back into the groove, and the defense which looks to be pretty good behind DeMarcus Lawrence and Leighton Vander Esch hasn’t hit it’s stride yet, but will have a much easier job against us. Our best hope is the Cowboys look past us as they play at New Orleans the following week (w/o Drew Brees).

Going forward, I want to see Josh Rosen in at QB. I can’t stomach the sight of Ryan Fitzpatrick leading this team any longer. If there was initially the thought that Ryan Fitzpatrick gives this team the best chance to win, that thought certainly has perished. Our QB alone won’t elevate our team to victory, but it looks clear to me that Josh Rosen is the more talented QB at this juncture, he can make the throws that Fitz can’t, so it’s time. I’d like to see J’Marcus Webb at LT and Jesse Davis at his more natural RT spot. He looks slow and overmatched at LT. He will still be slow and overmatched at RT, but at least his mechanics are more familiar there. We have to get some offense going, it’s been dreadful. We complained for years that scoring 17-19 points a game doesn’t cut it during the Tannehill era, well now we’re down to 5 PPG, and that must change NOW!

I want to see Chandler Cox in the backfield in some power formation and let’s make some noise! I think Rosen can give us a little spark, but all the other pieces around him have to work at a high level in order to be competitive. Gesicki is slowly coming around, he has 3 catches for 42 yards. If I told you after 2 games that no receiver or running back has not yet reached 100 total yards yet, would you believe it? Who’s closest? WR Preston Williams has 87 yards receiving. We just have to run the ball to open up the passing game. I saw Fitz play action fake about 20 times yesterday and defenders didn’t buy more than 2 of those. They were coming after him and frankly it looked silly. We need to have a few sustainable drives or our defense will be toast before we get to the BYE week. We need all hands on deck, and that includes the mutinous Minkah. C’mon son, you’re a better man than that, TEAM FIRST!!!!!

GO DOLPHINS!!

#staythecourse?

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1,417 Responses to Dolphins walloped by Patriots in 43-0 shutout

  1. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Now , grabbing a cheap Taco on a Dallas road trip wearing Rosen coloured glasses I’m down with …

  2. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    COPY AND PASTE
    Dolphins – Cowboys
    Rob 28-17 Fins
    Phish 63-3 Miami
    Piggy 3-2 Miami
    Mike E 17 – 30 Cowboys

    ^^ Pre Rosen starter news

    Toba. 31-24 Miami
    Son 17-14

  3. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    I don’t think Ramsey would come here… so a first for one ? Year no thanx… talk him into the extension and Let’s Dance , but I don’t see it happnin

    And Blog Killed

  4. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    YES! Big series opening win for the Cards. That’s our first win in Wrigley this year.

  5. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Jags D just teeing off on Mariotta

  6. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    We’re not going to trade a 1st or whatever for Ramsey without a long-term deal. That’s a no-brainer. This is the same kind of courting we did with Clowney.

    Just goes to show you, we will pursue top talent we have on our list. This idea that it’s going to take 3-4 years to be pretty good is not accurate. It’s about players. 3/4 of the league is not that good. You want to get into the top 12 or top 8 even better as fast as you can.

    What Rosen does from week 3 on is HUGE!!!! He’ll take his lumps but how does he respond and does he show he can be your QB?

    The Giants made the move to Daniel Jones and I’m glad the Dolphins did the same thing with Josh Rosen. Find out what your future is. I get the OL and blocking isn’t there yet. But it’s the same for everyone. Let’s stop treating Rosen like he’s so green it’s not fathomable. If he’s not ready you can always go back to Fitz but what’s the point? To me he’s Matt Moore now.

    Rosen is ready to play and be who he is. Anyone notice a middle of the road QB like Dak Prescott is playing big time ball now that he has some experience in the system?

  7. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    So now pundits are using us as an example of how good our opponents are? I thought we were really bad? Now it’s look at how good our opponents are. LOL

    Anyone else ever notice how uncomfortable Willie McGinest looks alongside David Carr who he doesn’t really respect as a QB? A HOF player who’s won 3 SBs and a QB who is all about excuses and was never very good. It’s uncomfortable. Carr gets the Super Bowl Champion tag as an intro but that was as a backup QB with the Giants who never played. McGinest knows that.

  8. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    So now that we have Taco on the menu, we have 3 former 1st round borderline busts on the D line. Can Flo do something with them?

  9. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rosen shine everyone! Time to get up! We got ourselves a QB! I’m looking forward to seeing Rosen play this Sunday. I’m looking for some development, improvement. Make some strides. We can do it!

  10. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I certainly hope we don’t sign Jalen Ramsey, what a team distraction that would be!

  11. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LOL Wyo- I want to have a reason to watch our team, Fitzpatrick doesn’t offer that. I’m happy I have something to see, and I really hope it works out for us.

  12. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    well at the very least we will see how Rosens future as Miamis qb goes, if he pans out that would be huge, it would mean we don’t have to use our first pick on a qb.
    i for one would rather trade out of the early pick to get more #1s in the future drafts.

    keep those early picks coming.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      This ^^^^

      However, I just don’t see it. I think the assholes are going to take Tua anyway and just waste the 2nd round pick and 5th round pick we threw away for Rosen. (I DON’T WANT TUA! He is the product of the pro team he has around him playing against kids.)

  13. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Mike, I hope that is the case. There is just something about him I don’t trust. 66TD to 8Int is an awesome ratio. I just don’t trust it.

  14. TryPod's avatar TryPod says:

    Isn’t there a practical number of picks you can have and a practical number of times you can trade back? If you end up with (for example) 3 first round picks, and they all work out, don’t their contracts come due around the same time and won’t you have to figure out how you’re going to pay them? Plus you’ll have the other contacts that will need tending to.. I guess I’m trying to figure out how much draft capital is too much, or even if that is an issue.

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

      The patriots draft who they want and shift the other picks to the future.

      I don’t know if there is a specific # or not????

      I’m sure that’s what Flores is trying to get too!

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Absolutely. What Rob is saying is if we trade back, he wants to trade back to accumulate future picks, so if we trade back from say #1 to #5, he would want the #5 this year and another 1st RD next year as well, and he wants to keep adding future picks. I’ve already stated that we have enough draft capital for next season. You need to develop players too, and having a draft class of 12 or 13 is too much. I think we may use some picks to acquire young NFL players, which is bizarre considering we traded away 2 we’ve already drafted in Tunsil and Fitzpatrick. It’s just strange.

  15. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  16. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I’m trying to figure out how much draft capital is too much, or even if that is an issue.

    There is no such thing as “too much draft capital”

    It can be used, it can be traded for players or more picks, it can be traded for future considerations

    You cannot have too much.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      You can only use so many picks in one draft properly. Sure you can parlay some picks into future picks but I do think there’s a reasonable limit as to how many players you can draft in one season without becoming a negative.

  17. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Charlton, the 28th pick, was inactive the last two games after two disappointing years and four total sacks. Now he joins Charles Harris, the Dolphins’ 21st pick that draft who has three career sacks. The draft did yield two pass rushers in the 20s that draft. Atlanta took Takkarist McKinley at No. 26 and he has 13 sacks. Pittsburgh took T.J. Watt at No. 30 and he has 21 sacks and eight forced fumbles. The schemes matter and don’t always line up for teams and players. But McKinley and Watt have produced, while Charlton and Harris haven’t. And, yep, the Dolphins now have both Charlton and Harris.

    THIS GM was in charge at the time. Main reason why I am not all that hopeful. Ross DID NOT blow it up. Most of the putrid scouting department is still in power here.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Why isn’t anyone asking this question about Grier? Very suspect…..all pie in the sky BS if we can’t scout and find the talent. I for one hope the scouting department has turned over / blown up like the team has.

  18. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  19. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    The draft picks don’t have to be used to take a player. They can also be used in trades….this year or next or whatever. I’m flabbergasted that people think you can actually have too many picks. It makes absolutely no sense. Especially the way we’ve been bleeding talent.
    ****
    Top end FAs are not going to come here until we are good again. So, thinking we are gonna make a big jump in talent because we can bring in a bunch of FAs is extremely hopeful, if you ask me. No way we are “good” next year. It will be at least 3 years before we are a legitimate playoff team, which is what I consider a good team…and even that is being optimistic. We may see some wins next year because we’ll probably be playing a last place schedule….just like 2016. How’d that work out the next year?

  20. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      One of the response to this post is just stupid. “I hope Rosen Balls out so he can stick it to Flores & Grier…” DUMB response.

      Now “I hope he balls out so we will know that he is a potential franchise QB and we didn’t waste a 2nd & 5th round pick…” that would make sense.

      I still think it was a waste of two draft picks.

  21. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Randy – If you would read what some of us are saying, it would make more sense. Just saying too many picks doesn’t, but explaining how you can only draft so many players in a given year and expect to be able to develop all of them does make sense. Of course we can trade picks for a current NFL player as well, which I mentioned. All I was saying is you can only draft so many players in one draft and do it effectively.

  22. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    You smell that?????

  23. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    The problem with acquiring Ramsey is that our pass Rush is horrible
    If you have an all pro secondary, but not pass rush, it’s worthless

  24. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    MikeE,
    I read the posts. It still makes no sense because teams can actually pick and develop any number of players every year when you’re a team like us. Who says you can’t develop 15 new players? Fans? This team needs a major influx of talent in the next couple years. Also, players will be going out the door as you bring in new ones. In the end, I’d be surprised if every pick is used to pick one player. 10-12 pick could result in 7 or 8 players. And, we may only hit on half those picks, so the actual number of players who end up sticking on your roster could be much smaller than the number of picks you start with. The more chances the better. Again, just me.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      You think we can develop 15 draftees in one season? Are you kidding? We haven’t been able to develop half of that, so either we’re drafting the wrong the players or we haven’t coached well, or a combination of the two. Also consider, we just traded away 2 players we already drafted, and at least one of those was a very good player for us (Tunsil). Would you not agree it’s like treading water trading players that you just drafted for more picks?

  25. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  26. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    MikeE,
    Short answer; Yes, teams could….and do….bring in a bunch of players every year and develop them. Bad teams bring in lots of new players. Teams can bring in half a dozen college FAs every year alone. Now, whether or not we have the coaches who can do it, is questionable….but that’s a different question…and I have no problem with people questioning that.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Tough task, but if you can find me an example of any NFL team drafting 12 or more players and finding 7-8 good players that played on that team for more than a season, I’d like to see it.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      I agree, it will just reduce the amount of UDFA we pick up every year. Instead of UDFA we will have higher rated drafted guys. (not saying definitely better, just higher rated)

  27. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rock – Try had a good point about players contracts all coming due at the same time. Say we do hit on our first 6 picks, we’re going to have to pay 3 first RD players and 3 second RD players contracts at the same time. That doesn’t include any other contracts that will also up be at that time. That could be trouble

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      I don’t think Try’s Point is good at all. You have to pay your good players regardless of whether they are a year apart. What is your alternate plan? Miss on picks so you don’t have to pay them? What is the difference if you give a guy a big 5 year contract extension in 2020 and then have to give another guy a big 5 year extension in 2021? One year of salary? Not a concern IMO. PLUS first round pick you get the 5th year option on so you have that relief as well.

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        if the FO manages the cap correctly it will never be an issue.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        OK. Personally, I hope we hit on all our picks and then we’ll worry about what happens years down the road at that time. I do think it’s difficult to bring in 12 or more draftees and be able to develop them. I know you mentioned UDFA’s, but I think there’s a different dynamic between UDFA’s and draftees, especially early draftees. Those guys get more time, with UDFA’s, if one bites, great, but many times you won’t dedicate a lot of time on them unless you see something special.

  28. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    The other option is to over pay for Free Agents.

  29. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    The answer is keep your own guys and don’t throw away 100M dollars on guys who give you 3 sacks per season. (Suh is spelled very much like Duh)

  30. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  31. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Mike E. says:
    September 20, 2019 at 1:28 pm
    OK. Personally, I hope we hit on all our picks and then we’ll worry about what happens years down the road at that time. I do think it’s difficult to bring in 12 or more draftees and be able to develop them. I know you mentioned UDFA’s, but I think there’s a different dynamic between UDFA’s and draftees, especially early draftees. Those guys get more time, with UDFA’s, if one bites, great, but many times you won’t dedicate a lot of time on them unless you see something special.

    I disagree with the attention the players get thing. I think good coaching staffs try to coach up ALL their players. I’ve heard this staff say that once you are on the team it doesn’t matter when you were drafted. (within reason obviously because of draft capital and salary constraints)

  32. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    You can obviously have too many picks. There are no hard rules for the draft and since it’s not a hard science, different rules apply to different organizations and drafts based on the teams’s goals and ability to find talent. It’s the same thing as having all the talent but not being able to utilize it..

    Grier is a new GM and has set himself up with a huge draft and FA resources to do whatever he wants in comparison to his competitors. With his short history, he will need all of it because they’ve destroyed the talent base here. I also doubt he’s remotely as talented as he thinks he is. He’d have to hit on most his FAs and draft picks to turn this turd around in 2-3 years, That’s jj level of talent and i don’t see it. Jimmy wouldn’t have made some of these moves so far.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      He is not a new GM. He has been GM since 2017.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      and I argue that it is not obvious. you don’t have to take a player with a draft pick. You can trade that pick to move around to get the player you want.

      Can you have too much money? Same difference.

      • New Age's avatar New Age says:

        And the answer is the same. Sure you can. Money doesn’t buy happiness. It doesn’t provide everything in life. It has a hard maximum to it’s value depending on the person. Having a dozen draft picks means little if you can’t strongly evaluate talent outside of the first 3 rounds. On teams like the Rams, later picks are sometimes just filler. Sometimes picks don’t last until the season because you have the talent you need. You might need them again with injuries, but at the start of the season, you may be set with the other talent you’ve accumulated.

        You are providing absolutes based on common sense for the average team. There are always outliers.

  33. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Overall (not without exception) you have much better odds to find a good player in the draft than as a UDFA. You have a better chance with a higher draft slot than a lower one. I WISH this team could get to the point where we are cutting draft picks every year because we have better talent on the team (as apposed to cutting them because the new Coaching or front office regime doesn’t see them as a “fit”) I would take 15 draft picks every year without question or hesitation.

    I would just hope that we are not trading away our best players every year to get those picks. But trading down from say 5 to 8 when we already have #1 or #2 and another in the teens is a no fucking brainer for me.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      We already have. We traded Tunsil and Minkah. I know we got fair or better returns on them, but the players we draft better be worth it

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      I agree and think the Tunsil trade will bite us in the ass in the end. Hopefully, Grier finds another really talented LT next year. We REALLY need one.

  34. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Now if you guys disagree on how we obtain said “too many” draft picks, I can agree that that is arguable. (I didn’t like trading our first round pick the very next season, but he didn’t wan’t to be here and that could have become a distraction to the rest of the player moving forward)

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      I have less issue with the Minkah trade than the Tunsil one. If Tunsil was really traded for all that…then we wouldn’t have given all the rest for that trade, right? He was part of a huge trade that really ate into out talent base and helped push Minkah out the door. I think we have to attribute our level of pathetic the last two weeks directly to that trade.

  35. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    I wish all coaches had balls like Belichick. I’d walk out too. ‘Journalists love to push the envelope and then cry when people don’t kiss their ass. I really hate today’s group of journalists in just about every field. They are disrespectful, lying scumbags for the most part. It’s a sad sign of our society that drama and conflict are majors drivers in all aspects of our lives and entertainment. Football is built off natural conflict and competition but it’s never enough.

    • D's avatar D says:

      He litrally told them what question not to other with and they sat there the whole time trying to find clever ways to ask that fucking question. He handled it better than i would.

  36. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    New Age says:
    September 20, 2019 at 1:52 pm
    And the answer is the same. Sure you can. Money doesn’t buy happiness. It doesn’t provide everything in life.

    But this does NOT mean that you can have too much. Just because it doesn’t buy happiness does not prove the argument that you can have too much.

    It can’t buy happiness but it sure as hell can buy things that can make you happy!

    If you have 20 picks in a year (which would be near impossible) that would still not be too many. You can trade them for future picks you can trade them for players or you can trade them for draft position.

    You don’t have to draft 20 players. HOWEVER, if you did draft 20 players the odds are much better that you will hit on players. (The odds of hitting remain the same, about 50/50 but 10 is better than 3.5 players per draft. (if you hit on 50%)

  37. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I think we have to attribute our level of pathetic the last two weeks directly to that trade.

    Reply

    I disagree with this as well. You can’t point to the trade where we unloaded TWO players and say unequivicably that not having those two guys lead to the shit show we saw the past two weeks. Neither player plays defesce. 102 point is not all the offense’s fault (other than giving the other team more chances)

  38. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Mike E. says:
    September 20, 2019 at 1:54 pm
    We already have. We traded Tunsil and Minkah.

    Yes, that is why I said I just hope we are not doing EVERY YEAR.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I hear ya man. I’m not really concerned we’ll do that, but I just hope they have a plan, and of course, that it works.

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        my biggest concern is that Grier has not been that good in rounds 1-3 PLUS the guys he did hit on he moved out. This is not a new regime in the front office 90% of the bad scouting department that failed to find talent the past decade is still hardly at work at it now.

  39. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t know that I agree that Grier hasn’t been good in rounds 1-3
    We drafted Baker in 2018 and that’s good pick
    Howard in 2016
    Minkah, Drake, Tunsil

    Those are all pretty good picks

    I keep seeing people argue here and elsewhere that Grier was a problem
    But I don’t look at the drafts of the last few years as problems

    I thought we had some decent young players at the end of Gase regime
    But no veterans to help bring them along and take the pressure off them

  40. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LMAO @ still hardly at work!

  41. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  42. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Having to pay 4 or 5 big contracts in the same year can be manipulated easily by signing bonus allocation. You just allocate different amounts of the bonuses for each player to different years, then structure the individual yearly salary payouts to compliment each other.

    I don’t really agree with the concept you can have too many 1st/2nd rd picks. At least not when we’re talking 3, 4, or 5, maybe if we were talking 10+.

    I do however agree that it doesn’t matter how many picks you have if you can’t select the right guys, lol. I think this is a legitimate concern for us.

    If Grier started as fulltime GM in ’17 that means he’s selected Harris, Fitzpatrick, Wilkins. Harris is nearly a bust, Minkah has an attitude problem ad forced his way out, and Wilkins has been invisible as far as I am aware. It’s too early to judge Wilkins, and Harris still has another year to prove himself, but like I said, legitimate concerns about talent evaluation and getting this rebuild done right.

  43. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    It’d be nice if the flipping Pirates could get a win against the damned Brewers. with their remaining schedule, I think they have a legitimate shot at sneaking into the NLC lead at the end of this thing while the Cubs and Cards trade games.

  44. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  45. BailBondMike's avatar BailBondMike says:

    Dallas Rookie defensive tackle Trysten Hill, is expected to make his debut against the Dolphins. I mocked him to us in the late rounds out of UCF. Dude is a gamer

  46. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    AB released by the Pets.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Good. I sincerely hope he never plays in the NFL again. He doesn’t deserve to after what he pulled on the Raiders, regardless of any charges that are upheld or not for rape.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Yep. I’m just glad to see someone who is clearly not a good person getting at least some form of comeuppance.

  47. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

  48. BailBondMike's avatar BailBondMike says:

    Got back from Miami last night after going to see the Pats beatdown in person. Sigh… Sure it was a blow out but take away just a couple plays and it would have been a different game (not a blow out anyway). I am talking about the 2 bonehead INT’s by Fitz and the many dropped balls (I counted 5 and one got INT’ed). Then the two 3rd and 17’s the pats had that they converted. Oh well, I had a blast. At least I had 3 complimentary nights at the Hard Rock Hotel to ease the pain.

  49. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Figures that he got to kick our ass for one week though, huh?

  50. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    MikeE,
    You guys are throwing, like, 3 different arguments in at once and debating that. Lol
    ***
    I’m just saying picks are good. The more picks you got….the more chances you got to get good players. We need a lot more talent on this team, and the draft is a major part of how you do that. How you use them. How you got them. How you develop them. Are all different arguments….and certainly debatable.

  51. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Mike E. says:
    September 20, 2019 at 4:25 pm
    Good. I sincerely hope he never plays in the NFL again. He doesn’t deserve to after what he pulled on the Raiders, regardless of any charges that are upheld or not for rape.

    Reply
    There are and have never been any “charges” for rape.

    THere is a civil lawsuit filed by a money grabber that supposedly was assaulted, then continued to work closely with him form months, was assaulted again, continued to work for him and then finally after the third “rape” didn’t do anything but extort money from him.

  52. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I wonder if the Pats are on the hook for his salary?

  53. BailBondMike's avatar BailBondMike says:

    Cards just went ahead. Dammit. Cubs are playing themselves right out of the wildcard even. Sucks! Molina has always been a thorn in the Cubs paw.

  54. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    What does Antonio Browns resume look like?

  55. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    So much for the Patriot way

  56. BailBondMike's avatar BailBondMike says:

    Mike E., I like that 1st round mock you posted earlier:
    DE Chase Young, Ohio State
    OT Tristan Wirfs, Iowa
    C Tyler Biadasz
    Since we would miss out on Fromm, Tua, Herbert and Love, I would draft QB Joe Burrow, LSU in the second round.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      If we not draft a QB, I would love this draft

      I might take another pass rusher though (pair 2 2nds to move into the first)

  57. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    From the above:
    >>>>
    The Cowboys have ruled out six players for Sunday’s game, not that it will matter much.

    As a heavy favorite over the Dolphins, Dallas shouldn’t need to be fully healthy this week.

    The Cowboys ruled out receiver Tavon Austin (concussion), receiver Michael Gallup (knee), safety Xavier Woods (ankle), defensive lineman Tyrone Crawford (hip) defensive tackle Antwaun Woods (knee) and linebacker Luke Gifford (ankle).

    Coach Jason Garrett said the Cowboys will discuss the possibility of adding either a receiver or a defensive lineman to help with depth. They need only one more game-day inactive.

    Rookie defensive tackle Trysten Hill, the team’s top choice this spring, is expected to make his debut.
    >>>

  58. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    That is actually a significant list of people out for the Cowboys.
    That is a third of a defense and 2 starting WRs.

    I think I’ll tighten up my prediction:

    Dallas 24 – 16

  59. BailBondMike's avatar BailBondMike says:

    Son, yeah, I was pulling for us to draft Minschew even after we traded for Rosen. Jags getting him in the 6th round was a steal now. I just liked his quick release, accuracy and ability to extend plays.

  60. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Mike E. says:
    September 20, 2019 at 4:34 pm
    What are you his lawyer?

    No, but I wish I was. Easy money.

  61. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I hope they banish Brown from the league.

    But they really need to look into how fair it was to Oakland adn Miami to have things go the way they did.

    The Raiders gave up draft picks to sign him and then he BSd his way out of it right into NE.

    The patsies ought to compensate the Raiders.

  62. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    BailBondMike says:
    September 20, 2019 at 4:42 pm
    Mike E., I like that 1st round mock you posted earlier:
    DE Chase Young, Ohio State
    OT Tristan Wirfs, Iowa
    C Tyler Biadasz
    Since we would miss out on Fromm, Tua, Herbert and Love, I would draft QB Joe Burrow, LSU in the second round.
    ______________________________
    Great as long as we trade back for future consideration on that 1st pick.

  63. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Who do we have left from the Grier era? I need help on this one? 2 number ones gone? Maybe he needs more capital because he misses more? Not buying it at this point….that he is the man. Concerned he hasn’t kept the best he brought in as it seems counter-intuitive at this point.

  64. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    every one misses, it’s a crap shoot, that’s why you need more draft picks, throw enough shit at the wall and some will stick.

  65. BailBondMike's avatar BailBondMike says:

    Great as long as we trade back for future consideration on that 1st pick.
    ———————————————–
    It’d be nice but you trade back you ain’t getting Chase Young. On the flip side, there are two other very good DE’s poised to go in the top 10 so you really would not miss out on one. The dude from Iowa and can’t recall the other right now.

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      I think you can, as a matter of fact the link that was posted mentioned that, Tua will probably be the first player taken

    • BailBondMike's avatar BailBondMike says:

      You are right, we never know how it’s going to go.

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      from the link
      “A quarterback will be taken with the No. 1 overall selection but it is reasonable for Miami to bet on Josh Rosen and trade back to acquire even more draft capital. Young is the best pass rush prospect in the 2020 NFL Draft.”

  66. BailBondMike's avatar BailBondMike says:

    Fucking Cubs! 12 base runners so far this game through 8 innings and all you can muster is 1 run. SMH!

  67. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I agree, take the best pass rusher with your first pick

  68. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Krishna says:
    September 20, 2019 at 5:27 pm
    Who do we have left from the Grier era?

    Ummmmm……..everyone? Meaning everyone on the team almost was brought here by Grier. 😂😜

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      But in all seriousness if you were talking about first round picks there is only Harris who is a borderline bust

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        I stand corrected…and I was thinking 1st round talent. It’s hard to see his vision right now. More is less so far.

  69. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Mike E. says:
    September 20, 2019 at 4:34 pm
    What are you his lawyer? Fuck Brown, he probably did everything that woman said he did. Oh, and fuck the Brewers too! LOL

    Reply
    ocalarob says:
    September 20, 2019 at 4:48 pm
    I think that have him on a text apologizing to her so yeah, it’s very likely he did that shit
    ——————–

    Yeah, and it doesn’t take a genius to delve into all the allegations of how he treats people and his documented narcissism and sense of entitlement to see it’s a very real possibility these allegations are true.

    It’s a common male refrain to say “why did she keep going back?” Men live in a vastly different world than women do. A lot of women have to put up with unwanted advances literally every day, especially young pretty ones.

    Most women entrepreneurs, especially when still trying to establish a business understand there is a certain level of harassment they may have to deal with especially when dealing with a rich and/or famous client. She was allegedly harassed the 1st two times, then is escalated to rape in the 3rd event. If a woman confronts the harassment and chooses to go back and it then escalates from harassment to rape, they didn’t ‘deserve’ it. It’s still rape and still wrong. I may question her intelligence or decision making, but shit, Bill Cosby? Harvey Weinstein? Hello, this shit happens all the time and all over.

    At the same time, I acknowledge these athletes are targets, so it is entirely possible she may be in a money grab scheme. You can look at the texts he sent, and the character he’s shown, and look at what we know about her (the 2nd event involved him ejaculating on her, this is the one that makes me wonder at the veracity of her story), and make a personal judgement. I personally think there is probably at least some truth in the story.

    And I would think that if he were a Miami Dolphins too 😉

    And fuck the Brewers!

  70. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Go Brewers!

  71. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  72. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:
  73. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Not surprised AB was released. Too much going on with him.

  74. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Ha! You nailed it. Thank you. The pain is huge…..

  75. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Uh oh….

  76. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    So what I am hearing is Pets felt they needed Brown in order to beat us 🤔🤡

  77. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Mike E ‘s walk in the room song

  78. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    I don’t mind the Brewer’s too much!

  79. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Excited to see Rosen start even if he’ll take his lumps along the way, we need to see what he is.

  80. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    WYO : are you enjoying the Ranch this year ?? We are finding it rather dark….

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

      Binged watched the whole season during the tropical storm Wednesday!

      Ya it’s gotten a little dark!

      But it’s always been that way really?

      • manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

        Somewhat yes, but always had some great guffaws .. we have watched I think 4 of this year, haven’t had the bust a gut laffs yet… I believe this is the last season of it ☹️

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

      I could do without the Mary story line!!!!!!!!!!!1

  81. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    COPY AND PASTE
    MIA @ DAL

    Rob 28-17 MIA
    Phish 63-3 MIA
    Piggy 3-2 MIA
    Mike E. 30-17 DAL
    Toba 31-24 MIA
    Son 17-14 MIA ??
    Naples 24-10 DAL
    OD 48-10 DAL

    Dallas minus 6 players. MIA minus MINKAH. Seems about even to me.
    ROCK: You said “Ross did NOT blow it up. Most of the putrid scouting department is still in power here.” Obviously Ross STILL believes in Grier and his scouts. YOU, ME and others do NOT!! That’s why ROSS NEEDS TO BE REPLACED!! a NEW OWNER IS mIAMI’S #1 NEED.
    Bring on the BEAL ERA ASAP!!

    • manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

      Holy Shit , you learned to copy and paste 👍👍👍. Great job OD 🤡

      • olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

        No, ‘toba, I did not. Simply wrote it down, then re-posted. Cut and paste never seems to work for me, despite Young Stanger’s best efforts to teach me.

  82. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    manitobafinfan says:
    September 20, 2019 at 8:58 pm
    Somewhat yes, but always had some great guffaws .. we have watched I think 4 of this year, haven’t had the bust a gut laffs yet… I believe this is the last season of it ☹️
    ———————————–
    Not after the ending! 😉

  83. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    And yes the Mary part has been drug out too long 🤡

    I really liked her in that other show.. Terms of Engagement??

  84. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I think I predicted Dallas 24-16.

  85. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Even if not long term a new era has started in Miami with Rosen starting, at least he he prototype size and arm to work with.

  86. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Krishna, wishing you well during this tough time. Peace & Love

  87. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    COPY AND PASTE
    MIA @ DAL

    Rob 28-17 MIA
    Phish 63-3 MIA
    Piggy 3-2 MIA
    Mike E. 30-17 DAL
    Toba 31-24 MIA
    Son 17-14 MIA ??
    Naples 24-16 DAL
    OD 48-10 DAL

    Naples:,There I fixed it , although I almost changed it to Miami 😊

  88. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    25-24 MIA🤪

  89. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Going to lower my loss ratio now that the better QB is playing. Dallas wins 31-17

  90. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Well I think I’ll go to bed!
    wish me luck trying to get around the road closures tomorrow going home!

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