Dolphins walloped by Patriots in 43-0 shutout

I would like to think after seeing what QB Ryan Fitzpatrick has done for the Dolphins so far this season that the decision to go forward with Josh Rosen as the starter is going to happen as early as Game 3, away against the Cowboys. In very limited time yesterday, Rosen had 2 potential TD’s dropped in the same drive, one to Jakeem Grant and one to Preston Williams, both very catchable balls that were mishandled. Obviously when you lose 43-0, who starts at QB isn’t the only issue, but the notion that the veteran QB gives them a better chance to win on Sunday simply can’t be true.

I said it before the season that the Dolphins were putting a lot on Eric Rowe’s plate. If we had 2 poor CB’s, he wouldn’t see as much action as pass attempts would probably be divided more equally, but with Xavien Howard on the other side of the field, teams will always look to exploit the weak link. Rowe has struggled here as the starter, after being used sparingly in NE for the past 3 seasons. Rowe started only 12 total games for the Patriots, and it’s pretty clear why. Rowe is not up to the task, but our depth at CB just isn’t there, with Jomal Wiltz, Chris Lammons and Johnson Bademosi.

I look at our O-line and D-line and think “Who are these guys”? If I told you Jesse Davis would be our LT a month ago you’d surely laugh. If I told you veteran DT John Jenkins, formerly of the Saints, Seahawks and more recently the NY Giants would be our starting RDE in our 3-4 base you’d say “huh?”. I love Godchaux, glad to see he’s still with us, but surprising he’s at the nose instead of DE where Jenkins is. Jenkins is 330lbs, you’d think they would flip flop those 2. Rookie LG Michael Deiter has been OK, and veteran OC Dan Kilgore is doing his best. Tough task for Kilgore with Deiter on one side and newly acquired Danny Isidora on the other. Now, veteran J’Marcus Webb is our RT, not LT. Good job Naples, you called the Webb signing!

Then there’s the Minkah defection. Here’s Minkah’s strengths in his draft profile:

Strengths

  • Loves ball, lives ball
  • Extremely competitive play demeanor with a history of showing up big in the biggest games
  • Versatile chess piece with experience all over the field
  • Can step right in and cover the slot, play high safety or handle nickel linebacker responsibilities
  • Good feet with ability to transition backward and forward smoothly around the field
  • Gets to top chase speed quickly
  • Can become rangy safety
  • Able to stick a foot in ground and drive to the ball
  • Plays with “ball-man” vision of an off-ball defender in basketball
  • Has awareness from zone to make loads of plays
  • Has nine career interceptions and four pick-sixes
  • Has downhill mindset as a hitter
  • Plays off of blocks and into tackling position
  • Dangerous blitzer off the edge
  • Attacks line of scrimmage from high safety look in run support and welcomes physical challenges
  • Special teams ace with 22 career coverage tackles

So where the heck does this 2nd year player come off not only complaining about how he’s being used, but actually asking for a trade? Some here want to defend that? Clueless! We’re on Game #3, deal with it! To me, this may be the most disappointing development so far this season. The team invests a high 1st RD draft pick on this player and he has the audacity to request a trade in only his second season. Garbage!

It’s been nearly impossible to make any kind of evaluation on our running backs or even our WR’s. We’re -92 in just 2 games, so how can you evaluate anything? Our RB’s have a total of 23 carries for 52 yards, and Kalen Ballage has 5 yards on 9 carries. Ugh! Of course the O-line and also the level of competition we have played factors in (Ravens, Patriots). It doesn’t get any easier as we play the Dallas Cowboys in their house. Dak Prescott is playing out of his mind so far, Zeke is just getting back into the groove, and the defense which looks to be pretty good behind DeMarcus Lawrence and Leighton Vander Esch hasn’t hit it’s stride yet, but will have a much easier job against us. Our best hope is the Cowboys look past us as they play at New Orleans the following week (w/o Drew Brees).

Going forward, I want to see Josh Rosen in at QB. I can’t stomach the sight of Ryan Fitzpatrick leading this team any longer. If there was initially the thought that Ryan Fitzpatrick gives this team the best chance to win, that thought certainly has perished. Our QB alone won’t elevate our team to victory, but it looks clear to me that Josh Rosen is the more talented QB at this juncture, he can make the throws that Fitz can’t, so it’s time. I’d like to see J’Marcus Webb at LT and Jesse Davis at his more natural RT spot. He looks slow and overmatched at LT. He will still be slow and overmatched at RT, but at least his mechanics are more familiar there. We have to get some offense going, it’s been dreadful. We complained for years that scoring 17-19 points a game doesn’t cut it during the Tannehill era, well now we’re down to 5 PPG, and that must change NOW!

I want to see Chandler Cox in the backfield in some power formation and let’s make some noise! I think Rosen can give us a little spark, but all the other pieces around him have to work at a high level in order to be competitive. Gesicki is slowly coming around, he has 3 catches for 42 yards. If I told you after 2 games that no receiver or running back has not yet reached 100 total yards yet, would you believe it? Who’s closest? WR Preston Williams has 87 yards receiving. We just have to run the ball to open up the passing game. I saw Fitz play action fake about 20 times yesterday and defenders didn’t buy more than 2 of those. They were coming after him and frankly it looked silly. We need to have a few sustainable drives or our defense will be toast before we get to the BYE week. We need all hands on deck, and that includes the mutinous Minkah. C’mon son, you’re a better man than that, TEAM FIRST!!!!!

GO DOLPHINS!!

#staythecourse?

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1,417 Responses to Dolphins walloped by Patriots in 43-0 shutout

  1. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    DeVante!!!

  2. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    That big play to Parker, Drake blew up Quinn with a great block

  3. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Fuck

  4. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Figures
    Our chance for our first lead of the year

  5. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Did anyone else see that Drake block on Quinn?

  6. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Minkah would have got beat by Witten.

    Minkah = OVERRATED

  7. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    My prediction of 3-2 is already wrong

  8. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Ouch, defender was going for ball. Time to bring back Isaiah Ford.

  9. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    That was helmet to helmet. Should be a personal foul. Dude will definitely be fined for that one

  10. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    BBM, can you rewind? It’s worth it, he blew him up

  11. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    His elbow is up – that’s not going trying to make a catch

  12. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    We got lucky with that wide open drop

  13. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Rowe is not that good. Should have kept Armstrong.

  14. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    In the last 5 quarters teams converted 3 of 4 3rd downs of 15 yards or more. Nothing has changed.

  15. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    That looked doomed , but turned out well

  16. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    What a difference in the offense with Rosen

  17. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Punch this in

  18. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    That handoff was nearly intercepted

  19. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Fist pump!!

  20. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Well that didn’t make me puke!

    So it’s an improvement!!!!!

  21. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    He was not off sides!!!

  22. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Bobby mcCain !!!

  23. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Yes!
    Let’s see them take advantage!

  24. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Uh Oh davis isn’t that good, but he may be the best we have

  25. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Shit.

    But man Rosen has a nice zip on the ball.

  26. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    WHO? Wen did we get badawhatshisname

  27. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    It’s nice to see them run on 3rd and short

  28. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    How the fuck is that not a flag!!!!!

  29. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Ok, alright ok

  30. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Our rookie LG isn’t playing so bad at LT

  31. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    WTF!!! That was a TD

  32. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    looked like one

  33. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    How is secured ball, one step two step not a TD? because it came out? He didn’t go to the ground. TWO STEPS

    WHAT IS A TOUCH DOWN??????

  34. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    No way that would have been overturned. Good non challenge

  35. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    see Mike I told you we should start rosen

  36. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    OK let’s see your 4 minute offense

  37. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Rosen looks great

  38. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    DOESN’T COUNT

  39. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Please stop with the screens

  40. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    That was a TD Parker

  41. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Maybe we should trade Drake

  42. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    that counts

  43. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    FUCK Come on Drake!

  44. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Dammit! You have to like what the offense has been doing with Rosen, but guys need to step up, namely Parker and Drake

  45. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Fucking kidding me….

  46. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I’m sick and fucking tired of our skill p layers. Dropped passes and now a stupid fucking fumble.

  47. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    drake blowzzzz

  48. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    And Rosen looks good IMO.

  49. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I see a Pick 6 coming

  50. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    please tell me when the 3rd qtr starts sitting in my truck outside winghouse

  51. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Early on Cooper was beating X pretty often. X has tightened up a bit in the 2nd

  52. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Missed field goal and Drake fumble or we leading at halftime. SMH

  53. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    yeah, trade Drake. Dropped pass killing one drive and fumbling on another stopping a drive. There’s a certain UGA running back I wouldn’t mind us drafting.

  54. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Missed FG -3
    Dropped TD pass by Preston -4 (we kicked FG)
    Fumble by Drake -7 (or at worst -3)
    This game could be 20-10 or 16-10

  55. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    What a strange game!

    Rosen looks really good, but don’t look at his stat-line (only 50% CMP).
    Our O-Line actually is doing alright.
    Our D-Line really blows, but the score wouldn’t dictate as much.
    We’re winning in both TOP and penalties (only 1 for us today, thus far).

  56. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    ocalarob says:
    September 22, 2019 at 2:33 pm

    please tell me when the 3rd qtr starts sitting in my truck outside winghouse
    Reply

    Game is starting

  57. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    A future star is continuing to emerge: Preston Williams

  58. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    If it weren’t for a few miscues (see Cav Kong above), we’d be winning this. And I’ll add that we should have won the onside kick attempt earlier.

  59. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Was Rosen just smoking a bowl on the sideline?

  60. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I have been surprisingly pleased with Dieter’s play at LT

  61. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    I also think we had that TD , but it would not have been overturned

  62. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    X just badly beaten on that route

  63. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    MF , I agree on both your above points

  64. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Somebody tell the Fins the game started….

  65. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    It was the right to the face that may very well have been missed….

  66. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    It would be nice if we’d have a few outside runs designed for Drake. I mean, that’s his bread-n-butter.

  67. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Harris sucks

  68. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Well this sin’t going to end well!

  69. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    So we are not a 2nd half team

  70. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    It WAS a good game…

  71. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    LOL @

    You think this is love? This is a billion years of Tiger DNA waiting to pounce.

  72. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Taco with a coverage sack

  73. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    CavalierKong says:
    September 22, 2019 at 12:04 pm
    I just want to see a marginally competitive game today. If we’re still in this thing in the 3rd quarter, that will be marked improvement in my book. It would be nice to see the defense have another quality game. And hopefully we see some things out of Rosen on the field to get excited about.
    ——————

    Next week I’m going to hope we’re in the game until the start of the 4th!

  74. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    I’ll know this team is serious about winning when Grant is no longer fielding punts.

  75. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Why so many deep routes on a 3rd and 4?

  76. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    O-lione having such a hard time. Can’t provide a pocket at this point. We will be very aggressive in FA and the draft fixing the O-line. We all knew it, but it’s really showing in all 3 games. Can’t run, can’t protect, we fall behind, and it just gets worse in that situation.

  77. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    We should have kept Spence to help on that DL. Haven’t heard Wilkins name since game 1.

  78. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Pollard was the backup to Darrell Henderson at Memphis. Dude is fast/explosive and a great receiver.

  79. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    X got his ankles broke! 😦

  80. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    We have the worst defense in the league

  81. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I think we should give Mark Walton and Myles Gaskin some more looks. I don’t like the way either Drake or Ballage runs in the open field. Neither guy looks physical at all out there. Ballage is awfully soft for his size. They get hit, they go down. No fight.

  82. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Just have no OL

    And the lack of talent can’t keep pace.

  83. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Lets go Chargers/49er’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  84. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I’m ready to fire Chris Grier.

  85. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    The game starts in the trenches but we totally decimated ours on both sides of the ball.

  86. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    M – Not sure how or why you want to fire Grier. We tore this house down to the bare bones. Now if you thought the Hot water cooler was good (Tunsil), we got enough to pay for a new one and more, and if you’re upset getting rid of the A/C unit which was just a year old, we probably got enough to replace that too. To watch the product on the field now is painful, but you can’t fire him until he starts buying all the stuff to build the house back up. Hopefully Flores is a good enough contractor to work with the materials Grier brings him.

  87. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Unlike the pundits I’m not going to add the season totals this year!
    I saw marked improvement today!

    And that’s all I’m asking for!

    • manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

      I agree, and we also lost 3 of today’s OL starters in the 2nd half

    • olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

      INDEED YOU DID, Wyoming. But this brief trend will be reversed because of our O-Line woes. Losing by 25 is NOT ACCEPTABLE IN MY BOOK. To quote the Don of Miami: “Losing in any form is never acceptable.”

      • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

        This is what blow it the fuck up looks like!

        We are just seeing who is going to be on board , and who the quitters are!

  88. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    HOW MANY YEARS HAVE PEOPLE LIKE MF-13, Your’s Truly, and others on this board been BEGGING ROSS AND HIS PEOPLE to address the O-LINE PROBLEM???? And for how many years have they ignored it??? Oh, ya, we had ONE draft pick in the first 3 rounds for the O-Line in the last 3 seasons. WHOOPPEEEE!!! And the first O-Lineman who goes down is followed by a guy WHO JUST CAN’T PLAY at this level!!! AT ONE POINT, we had a legitimate chance to win this game!! But, once again, the O-Line problems, specifically the lack of quality depth on the O-Line, has come back to bite Ross’s team in the ass AGAIN!!
    ———————
    I HOPE THE NEXT OWNER replaces the ineffective CHRIS GRIER with someone who appreciates the importance of building and MAINTAINING a quality offensive line. Grier sure as hell hasn’t done it. INDEED, this season he got rid of TUNSIL who, at the time, was OUR ONLY ABOVE AVERAGE O-LINEMAN after jujuan james was lost to free agency!!!!! THAT may make sense to some people, BUT NOT TO ME!!!
    ——————
    This current Dolphins team has little chance for success given our vast talent holes in the offensive line. Lord knows the Fins tried today. BUT THEY STILL LOST BY 25 POINTS!!!!! —I can hear it now. “We’ve turned the corner. Stick with the plan. Grier and Ross know what they’re doing. In just a few more years we’ll win a playoff game and we’ll be legitimate Super Bowl contenders!” Keep drinking the KOOL-AID, boys. We’ve been waiting this ENTIRE CENTURY to win a playoff game and it STILL HASN’T HAPPENED!! IN FACT, we are NOW further from the Super Bowl, in terms of talent, ownership, and management, THAN WE’VE BEEN IN OUR ENTIRE HISTORY!!
    HELL, the inaugural team in 1966 GOT to a Super Bowl in their 6th season and WON Super Bowls in their 7th and 8th seasons. Ross has owned this team for 10 seasons and we’re further away from the Promised Land than EVER!!
    ——————
    Miami has failed to cover the spread IN ANY GAME THIS SEASON SO FAR (as I have predicted). They’ve been outscored 133-16, a RECORD in the history of this franchise!!
    Let the Bruce Beal Era begin as soon as possible!!!!

    • olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

      Mr. Spikes: I HAD NOT read your suggestion to CAN GRIER until after I wrote the above entry. Sadly, in the unlikely event that Ross DOES FIRE GRIER, history tells us he’ll only appoint SOMEONE WORSE to replace him. Substantial improvement will NOT COME until after Ross sells the team.

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

      I love you OD!
      But your Shtick is old!

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  90. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  91. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    This team has all sorts of problems, but our skill players are supposed to be pretty good and they have been horrible for 3 weeks. I’ve lost track of the crazy number of dropped passes by our WRs and RBs that have cost us again and again. And you can’t fumble the ball inside the 10.

  92. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  93. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Dolphins 3 Chargers 2

  94. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Minkah has an interception and a forced fumble in a little over one quarter of play against the Niners.

  95. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    WYOMING: HOW did all these “QUITTERS” as you call them, get here?? And WHO picked them?? Upper management, including ownership, must be held accountable for the entire mess this franchise has become.
    —————————————–
    Is THIS the time the INCREDIBLE HULK comes to the executive meeting room and kicks some serious ass??? –Ken, do you hear me??

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

      I’m not into looking into the past!
      we blew it up! all anybody can ask for is to define what we have , so they can get what we really need in the draft and FA.
      If you want to do the mental masturbation of reliving the past that’s on you!

      • olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

        SOOO you see something wrong in honoring Shula and what his team accomplished??– Actually, I use references to better times for the benefit of those who are too young to have been there. I’m terribly sorry you are offended by past successes. But if you are pleased with lousy football, you’ll have plenty to cheer about as long as the current ownership is in charge.

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