2019 – Daniel Jones RD1 #6 (Kyler Murray #1)
2018 – Sam Darnold RD1 #3 (Baker Mayfield #1)
2017 – Patrick Mahomes RD1 #10 (Mitchell Trubisky #2)
2016 – Carson Wentz RD1 #2 (Jared Goff #1)
2015 – Marcus Mariota RD1 #2 (Jameis Winston #1)
2014 – Johnny Manziel RD1 #22 (Blake Bortles #3)
2013 – Geno Smith RD2 #22 (E.J. Manuel #16)
2012 – Robert Griffin III #2 (Andrew Luck #1)
2011 – Jake Locker RD1 #8 (Cam Newton #1)
2010 – Tim Tebow RD1 #25 (Sam Bradford #1)
2009 – Mark Sanchez RD1 #5 (Matthew Stafford #1)
2008 – Joe Flacco RD1 #18 (Matt Ryan #3)
2007 – Brady Quinn RD1 #22 (Jamarcus Russell #1)
2006 – Matt Leinart RD#1 #10 (Vince Young #3)
2005 – Aaron Rodgers RD1 #24 (Alex Smith #1)
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So that’s the list of the second QB drafted in each of the last 15 drafts. What’s sometimes more surprising than where they were taken is who was the QB drafted before them and where they were taken. Geno Smith as the second QB taken all the way at pick #54, and E.J. Manuel was the only 1st RD QB in 2013. Patrick Mahomes at #10 8 picks later than Mitch Trubisky eh? There were only 3 years where QB’s went #1 and #2, 2016, 2015 and 2012. Just so you know, I don’t believe this shows any more scientific evidence, but it’s interesting to look at the past, which sometimes reveals the future. I also understand that 15 years ago, the NFL was a different game than the 2020 version but the interesting thing is how much money these first round players were getting paid. We know it all changed after Sam Bradford was drafted #1 in 2010 and signed the most lucrative rookie contract ever in the NFL, 6 YR/$78M with $50M Guaranteed. Aaron Rodgers who slid to #24 in 2005 signed a 5 YR/$7.65M contract.
Let’s start from 2005 and we’ll work our way back to the present. Aaron Rodgers waited 3 full seasons before his 1st start with Brett Favre as the starter. Matt Leinart started after 5 games behind Kurt Warner and finished 4-7. Brady Quinn didn’t start until season 2 and started only 3 games behind Derek Anderson. Joe Flacco started immediately for a stacked Ravens team and went 11-5. Mark Sanchez started immediately for MTP and the Jets and finished 8-7. Tim Tebow started only 3 games but played a fair amount in 9 games although not necessarily as a passer. Jake Locker sat out his entire rookie season. RG III was damn well going to start after they traded a boatload of 1st RD picks for him and he was brilliant until he got injured. The only 2nd RD QB in this group, Geno Smith, started his entire rookie season but Matt Simms was their other QB (who?). Johnny Manziel started only 2 games and was just awful. Marcus Mariota started 12 games and played well but the Titans were pretty bad and they finished 3-9 in his starts. Carson Wentz started immediately and played well although the Iggles went 7-9. Patrick Mahomes started game 16 and won. He’s the guy I consider most similar with Tua. I’ll explain more later. Sam Darnold started 13 games, sat out the first 3 behind Josh McCown. Some may say this is the closest situation to Tua and Fitzpatrick and they might be right. Finally, Daniel Jones started after 4 games and played pretty well despite his 3-9 record.
Why do I think Tua/Fitzpatrick is most similar to Mahomes/Smith? I see 2 veteran QB’s who both have the respect of their HC. Fitzpatrick said it himself, he’ll help Tua in any way he can but Ryan Fitzpatrick wants to be the starting QB this season. Of course mitigating circumstances will no doubt affect how soon Tua starts and I’m not talking about Tua’s health, I’m talking the health of the nation and the Coronavirus pandemic. Having a virtual offseason is not doing Tua any favors. There are rumblings that teams may be able to start OTA’s in June but I fell that unless every single team and their respective states are able to open, that’s not going to happen. Cali is probably the linchpin because they are the least likely to be willing to open up and if they don’t, I don’t see any teams opening because you can’t have some teams working and others not, that takes away the whole parity theme the NFL is built on.
I’ve made it clear (w/o having any actual medical records for Tua) that I feel it would be best to let Ryan Fitzpatrick run this team and if there’s a point of the season where we’re out of it, and Tua is 100%, then I’m fine with giving him the reins, as long as the O-line isn’t a bunch of matadors. On the other hand, I really can’t imagine that he would start immediately, I think that would blow my mind. I want to see what Tua can do, I’m excited that we have arguably the most talented QB in this draft and the most talented QB we’ve had over the last 21 years since Dan Marino left the building. Still, I can’t help but feel that after that devastating hip injury, time will be Tua’s friend. We have so many new faces on our team and we could conceivably have 4-5 new starters on our O-line. Jackson LT, Flowers LG, Karras C, Hunt RG and Davis RT, that’s 4. Plug Kindley in at RG and Hunt at RT that’s 5. Think they might take some time to jell? I don’t want our new QB subjected to that kind of situation, no sir!
I’d love to hear your thoughts on this, let em rip!
GO DOLPHINS!!!
#staythecourse
Finsmob Unleashed 
Oi! First!
Way to go Mike!
If Tua wins the job then so be it, he will have earned it. I think Fitz will win the job to start the year and then see what happens.
Thanks, me too man. While our O-line should definitely be upgraded I do wonder how long it will take to be so.
Nice work, Mike! It’s a big IF the season starts. Otherwise, like the Tua strategy!
Thanks Philip
If Tua beats out Fitz then he should start!
As it should be at every position of the team!
Only not being healthy should set him if he is outperforming Fitz
Nice write up Mike E
2014 – Johnny Manziel RD1 #22 (Blake Bortles #3)
2013 – Geno Smith RD2 #22 (E.J. Manuel #16)
2007 – Brady Quinn RD1 #22 (Jamarcus Russell #1)
2006 – Matt Leinart RD#1 #10 (Vince Young #3)
Yeah, there’s some fugly drafts right there
Lol Mike, do you think our FO lives in a cave🤔 why do you think they don’t have medical records on Tua? If you’re referring to the teams doctors not creating their own, from their own in person check up, then they for sure will once he’s in the building. I’m pretty sure that eval has already taken place. I agree Fitz should start game one, because he deserves it.
I’ve made it clear (w/o having any actual medical records for Tua) that I feel it would be best to let Ryan Fitzpatrick run this team.
I was referring to myself, not the FO silly!
So when you get Tua’s medical records🤔 send them over to my son, he’ll splain them for you, then you can make an edumacated guess on when Tua should be playing.
The first few on that lists are like….
”okay”
….and then you see Mahomes name and it’s like…
“this is looking good”
….but then by 2015 my tone changes to
“why are you doing this to me!?!”
And by the time you get to 2010, I’m crying in the fetus position in the shower
Thoughts?
When the going gets tough Minkah goes crying to mommy. His candy ass got torched by the Ravens week one, and still had to play them 2 more times, but those final 2 times they moved him to safety, so he could just roam.
I think he should shove a football in his mouth and leave it there so we don’t have to hear him talk anymore. Fuck him, I will root against his sorry ass for as long as he toils in the NFL
I’ve always been rather ambivalent about PItt, but since that asshat forced his way out it made it very easy for me to root for Pitt to lose every effing game while that prick is on the team.
On the previous blog there was an article about Fitz possibly being the best QB in the division. I take offense to the logic, because he’s bashing the ineptitude of the AFC East other than the cheats, for the last 20 years, including the Fins.
A big FU to that U75, now that the cheats have by far the worst QB in the division and the other 3 have their QBs of the future.
The Steelers started 0-3 last year, but had a brutal schedule to start, ne, Sea, SF.
Minkah didn’t revive them like it was U75d (reported).
I often disrespect our AFC East foes by not capitalizing the teams name or the players name, sometimes it spell checks to capitals and I just leave it though 😉
I really want to see Fitz play this year behind an OL and not that offensive line he played behind last year.
I have high hopes for this season and don’t want to start off by babying Tua.
I fund it amusing when Wall Street tries to use past indicators to predict future stock market conditions, when the country has never been shutdown like this before. There’s always the threat of another outbreak spike, that could make everything else moot.
So I wonder who the Dolphins will groom to replace Gailey. He is going to be 69 this year and came out of retirement to do join the team. I don’t think he has the energy at 69 to have 70 hour weeks. If they are going to keep the Offense Gailey installs, I wonder who they will have him mentoring to take the reigns when he retires again next year or the year after.
Let’s see how the O is this year, if things go well I expect the Gailey offense to be used as long as Flores is our coach, so the actual OC that replaces him may just need to be a little better than competent.
The cheats for years had a revolving door for OCs, that’s what I want, it to not matter who he is, just that he follows the system.
Just noticed and read the new article. Nice read Mike! Thank you sincerely for keeping this place going with new content for us to ignore and argue about other content. LOL JBB
Nice article Mike E!
GO FINS
Yeah Mike, the article was alright😉
Ditto the above, thanks for keeping this place going, I appreciate it.
Thanks guys, my pleasure
Way it should be. Look at people.
One down, only 7.7+ billion left who need to figure it out.
Mike E great write and great insight. Was really taken by this:
“Patrick Mahomes started game 16 and won. He’s the guy I consider most similar with Tua.”
Might not be the way you meant it, but what QB most reminds you of Tua as far as playing style. Get might not be Mahomes. Know Tua scrambles and flips around a lot, but you guys watch college ball and I don’t except for highlights.
I certainly feel like if i had to make a modern day QB evaluation, im going to say Russell Wilson, but Tua has more arm talent, so a truer evaluation is probably Steve Young, specifically his accuracy and strength of throwing while moving is a trait i think that make Young a strong comparison to him.
Could not love that answer more. Cause other than Marino, just loved how Steve Young played. Precision point on with a big arm and dude could take off in a crafty way when the time was right. Think he was better than Montana.
wyoming85 says:
May 28, 2020 at 12:47 pm
Bobby McCain asked about Chris Grier and Brian Flores being black, leading the organization: “I don’t see black and white.”
— Armando Salguero (@ArmandoSalguero) May 28, 2020
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This is where we should strive to be. This is what true fairness is, this is what true equality is, and this is what its takes to truly be appreciated for you hard work and achievement.
I think Jacob Frey should be held accountable for his actions, inciting violence in Minneapolis. You would think a mayor of a major city would try to keep the piece at a time like this, in typical dem fashion, don’t let a tragedy go to waste.
I read where a looter last night was killed there. That’s blood on the mayor’s hands.
It’s a sad time there. Think the mayor was doing what he thought best. And hard to call out that the original incident was wrong. What would you have done?
I agree. I don’t know how a society ignores the rule of law and still functions. Floyd and Arbery were tragedies where you get the facts and let a court of law determine your answers. This widespread looting and violence every time something happens is an embarrassing indictment of your community and leadership.
Think you end up with two wrongs don’t make a right. Folks in Georgia seemed to handle the Arbery case well though.
I don’t agree. One is a wrong perpetuated on one man and the other is a much larger wrong perpetuated on a whole community that had nothing to do with his death.
But I agree with you New Age. Maybe just didn’t put it out right. Or maybe you are going to one is the bigger wrong, which also agree with.
I think some people, mostly for political gain, would like to see a full on race war, not a resolution to race issues, and unfortunately i think they are going to get what they want and unfortunately i think they dont even comprehend the destructive fallout that will follow. I hate the Media and Politicians because subjects like this are ones they like to really incite instead of deescalate. He could have called it out instead of making it even more of a racial issue and stirring the response of violence. I disagree that there wasn’t more he could have done. Rebuke for the officer, certainly, arrest and convictions sought, certainly, complete investigation and betting to the bottom of this statements, sure, but what he did is threw gas on a fire, he knew he was doing it and look what it did. I dont care how you feel about the subject, in certain situation you have to deescalate, regroup, and the refocus and get things done.
What did the guy say that wasn’t true? I just have problems hitting on a guy for saying it like it is.
Good write, Mike! I’ve discussed this quite a bit recently. We’ll see how it plays out. It all comes down to whether the team feels comfortable with where Tua is at health wise. If they feel he’s good to go, and he feels he’s good to go, let him compete. I won’t be surprised if he sits for awhile either.
stangerx says:
May 28, 2020 at 3:08 pm
Could not love that answer more. Cause other than Marino, just loved how Steve Young played. Precision point on with a big arm and dude could take off in a crafty way when the time was right. Think he was better than Montana.
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I think a lot of QB’s were better than Montana, but Montana was a winner true blue. The guy was clutch and in sync with his team. His actual QB skills not that great, great leader, and great clutch performer.
Montana reminds me of Brady.
Well i was going to say the opposite, but thats kinda the comparison i had there as well. Not a great QB with great QB skills but really polished skillset, clutch player, nice intergration into a perfect system for success.
Mike E,
Thanks for all you and Piggy do. This year definitely needed some extra good stuff and your articles are good stuff.
On Tua, he just plays well. Guy has great numbers and work ethic. After Minkah the Traitor, I especially value a guy will to do whatever asked to make him team successful. I hope we become the next AFC dynasty with Tua at the helm.
Thanks Tim, New Age
stangerx says:
May 28, 2020 at 3:49 pm
Think you end up with two wrongs don’t make a right. Folks in Georgia seemed to handle the Arbery case well though.
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Part of what im saying is the fact that that case was used to fuel the fire in Minneapolis. The mayor made statements that basically if Aubrey had been White or Floyd has been White, they would be alive. I mean why do you go out and drag in the hatered and anger from a different incident if you are trying to fix a problem. Sounds like he wanted to shake people up and get them really good and pissed. If he had stuck to just focusing on what he has control over, to the facts of this case, and to the resolution of what the source of this issue was and incited anger, this might not be happening.
Just saying no riots in Georgia.
No one race baited the community in GA
I do think there is something to the Democratic agenda to let these problems fester a bit, including COVID-19. I think it’s easy to say look at the kind of world Trump is creating because he is an ass and things he says just aren’t palatable. I mean he does absolutely nothing to bring peace and harmony to the US, he’s an antagonistic jerk. It’s fucking really sad to me lately the things that have happened. Arbery, Floyd, the woman in the dog walker in the park that threatened to call the police and did saying that an Afro-American man was threatening her, the man that called the police on black men that were members of the gym but thought they weren’t because they were black. It’s like we’re going backwards, and that’s very disturbing. I hate it . . .
It’s very intentional. Statistics don’t mesh with the agenda and so they have to flame it in the few instances where they may actually be right. They do not care for the people they claim they care about. Pushing these buttons help no one especially the victims. The rule of law is what brings justice, not mobs and mob violence.
^ also quite true
https://twitter.com/TheSharpEdge1/status/1266065592982757376?s=20
Might be part of the professional protester groups like the ones that showed up in Baltimore and also did similar things there.
stangerx says:
May 28, 2020 at 3:51 pm
What did the guy say that wasn’t true? I just have problems hitting on a guy for saying it like it is.
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Part of my answer is above, and part of the answer is, sometimes, especially as a community leader, you have to have decorum. I mean i could think a guy is a writhing piece of shit but if people are abotu to kill him i dont go, ya know what, yall really have no idea what a piece of shit he is. He kicks puppies and bludgeons baby seals. No you simple stick to the facts and whats going to be done.
For instance, this statement goes a lot further to keeping the calm. I believe that in the course of doing his job, the office used tactics necessary for a person who is resisting arrest. It is clear fromt he video that these tactics were continued, long past compliance of Mr. Floyd and as such the nate of this death is being considered a homicide.The office has been placed into custody and will await a trial. At this time we are also beginning an investigation into this issue, looking at the practices and complaints levied against the police department in efforts to find any other officers who may be at fault and determine if we can correct this issue so that it will not continue. I truly feel for the family of Mr. Floyd and will be having a meeting with them and other community leaders to discuss this further. I also have opened a hotline for others to call in and voice their complaints, vent frustrations and leave messages that might be used to create a better environment for the future and how we might help the police department be better servants of the community.
That deescalates, that gives them a portal to vent, that shows that the current situation is being handled, that shows more will be done from here, that shows personal investment into the situation and making things better. It shows respect for the victim and his family. It admits fault. That also still stated the facts accurately, it just doesn’t incite people to violence. There are ways to do things, you know this from the job you use to do, ways things should be handled and that Mayor’s way wasnt the right way imo.
The Mayor could not control what the prosecutors did. He could order the cops fired, and they were right quick. I probably would have done exactly what the mayor did, but as you pointed out that didn’t work out well.
Will tell you as a lawyer though…. that cop sitting on the guy’s neck with his knee is guilty of manslaughter or depraved indifference homicide. That should be coming.
Oh no doubt, i think it could be second degree murder specifically, if its not found that the guy had any underlying physical issue, and/or that thing he was trained to do was being done to cause more harm the way he was doing it. Its a lock on manslaughter, but depending on the case they could go for second degree imo.
And that not the problem i have with the Mayor, the problem was that he forced the race issue, which incited more anger and led to the outbreak of violence. It was outside the actions of firing, etc which were all exactly what he should have done, it was the fact that he started saying this was about race and the cop went to far because he was black and the issue in GA it was about race too, which is just lighting a fuse on a powder-keg.
Not to mention its complete rhetoric, there is no proof to any of it, even if it looks that way, there is no evidence to call it out like that and like i said before, you still handle it different.
stangerx says:
May 28, 2020 at 3:37 pm
It’s a sad time there. Think the mayor was doing what he thought best. And hard to call out that the original inccident was wrong. What would you have done?
By saying, if George was white he’d still be alive is playing politics. I certainly wouldn’t have done that. I would’ve said we’re going to fix our police force. Fix the training, so that, if they stand by and do nothing, they know they can held accountable.
Obviously the cop was wrong, and should have the book thrown at him, including life in prison, but that’s not the main issue here, and no one is talking about it.
The main issue is the good ole boys club. We’re never going to eliminate racism, and there’s always going to be a bad apple, but why isn’t anyone talking about the other 3 officers, they are part of the real problem.
How the fuck can those 3 stand there and listen to George cry out for his life and do nothing? They need to try all 4 for murder.
They, at least two of them if i remember the video right, were minorities themselves.
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steve — why didn’t the other 3 step in is a huge question. I’m guessing the guy with the knee on the neck was the boss. Used to do some police stuff and rank matters.
There was an obvious point at which the compliance was met, before Mr. Floyd died. I think thats enough for Second Degree, dont ya think. I mean that showed intent to harm because the problem\/threat was neutralized and he continued to hold that extreme positioning, should be more towards the center of the chest unless they are fighting. My wonder is if the crowd around it was part of the complication, did they not let up because the crowd was being aggressive? This is where i suppose things get iffy when it comes to some of the cop use of necessary force things come in, but i think Second Degree. What say you Kenneth Hulkelmeister? You have the most experience in these matters.
Feel like am going to the middle school prom tonight. Going to an actual restaurant. Only difference is my parents won’t be picking me up..
Wow, that’s cool. Enjoy! I’m looking forward to being able to do that again. We’ve only been bringing in once a week, some weeks twice. Really trying to cook as much as we can and not spend extra cash on bringing in.
From what the places are doing around here…… outdoor seating is cool. And have read some medical stuff that says it should be.
Yeah, that will be the first phase of restaurants that open here, the ones that can accommodate outside, but I imagine there will be a capacity limit so people aren’t sitting right on top of each other
What I saw was a cop that wasn’t trying to kill anyone, he just seemed to be really ignorant on the harm he was doing. He seemed to want to set an example. None of the cops seemed to have any concern for George’s safety, but the killing cop may have been a real hardass that retaliates against officers that go against him.
None of that really matters, except maybe for intent purposes, but this event was just unfathomable to me. How can people let something like that happen? It’s just sick.
My dad used to live in Minneapolis suburb of Woodbury. He was in downtown Minneapolis and got pulled over, then had a heart attack. The officer handled the situation perfectly and my dad is alive today thanks to officer Rueben.
Shortly after I got into town, officer Rueben met me at the hospital and took me to my dad’s vehicle, which wasn’t impounded, just held, so no fees to get it.
Oh shoot, thanks Stanger! Missed that
I have to say, with this pandemic and more excessive force from law enforcement against minorities that erupts into horrible situations, the divide we have in this country about everything makes me very sad. 😦
Election year?
Sadly enough that’s what it’s become all about.
It occurs less now, it’s just that it’s more politicized. Same shit happens to white people and Hispanics, you just don’t hear as much about them.
Does anyone here remember the huge insects that M13 always talked about that were in Pennsy?
Just came to me. The infamous Dobson fly
It all started with WR Aaron Dobson drafted 2nd round in 2013 by the Pats who is now a FA.
Great write Mike E.
I think Fitz starts the year and Tua studies the playbook for at least 6 games while our O-Line learns to play good together. Then it’s Tua time !!
Dog — but you still want to see Tua play. Know I do.
Of course my horse. 😎👍
If Tua is good to go, he will become the QB at some point in 2020 heading into 2021. He’s a huge part of Phase III.
Thanks Doggy
Welcome 🐕🥃🥃
Got an email that says free NFL Game Pass has been extended through 07/31/20. Sweet.
Watch the video. No intention? Floyd was murdered, just like Eric Gardner in Staten Island for selling cigarettes. 4 white guys are all solely responsible for Floyd’s death, 1 principally that kneeled on is neck while taunting him to get up. This particular officer has had over a dozen complaints about his actions.
Our criminal justice system has been racially discriminatory all my life. I choose to acknowledge it, see it, and call it out, and would even take a knee. This NOT political.
And to criticize the mayor about fueling the fire while the President says, and this is his Twitter quote, “when the looting starts, the shooting starts.” What great leaders?
Can’t wait for the “look over there” critics. I’ll help you. The riots were a shameful, angry reaction to the injustice and only hurts your own community and distracts from the greater issue, racism and criminal injustice. Stop it.
Why hasn’t anyone been arrested? Do you think the riots would have been avoided if the “neck kneeler” was arrested immediately? I do! And, anyone of you would have been, too. No fucking excuses, go straight to jail. He’s a murderer.
He should be arrested and tried for murder, or at the very least manslaughter.
I also suspect no one on this blog is black. Not one of you dads have had to have the “talk” with your son about what you should do if you encounter the police.
If you are not of color or a female I hardly believe any of you have ever experienced discrimination.
When the fuck are we going to wake up??? It’s just sickening!
As a matter of fact I’ve had that talk with my son, as my dad with me, and if more dads of all races had that talk things would be much better.
Lots of people have a problem with the police and don’t respect them, that contributes to issues like this.
Not sure anything could’ve changed this instance, besides firing that cop years ago, because as you mentioned he’s been a bad apple for a long time.
These protests are mostly fake, either the left brings the thugs in or they come in themselves to steal and loot. Sure there’s some that think they’re doing the right thing and aren’t there for violence, but we’ve seen this over and over, even after a team wins a championship, so tell me what the difference is?
No one is debating this cop was 100% in the wrong. What needs to be done is say what can I do myself, so I don’t put myself in this situation. That’s the part that never gets looked at it’s always the cops this, the cops that, but they never look at themselves. Of course it doesn’t remove the blame from someone else, but its not about that, you can only control your own actions.
You never fix a problem by telling someone to do something, you get together and compromise. If you don’t want to be hit by a car, you pay attention when you’re in the road, and don’t give the car a chance to hit you, this situation is no different.
You lost me. Which means WTF?
Oh yeah…how could I forget. Oh yeah it happens all the time.
The murderers in GA killed Ahmad Aubrey for jogging and 1 of 3 filmed it for their next “KKK” meeting. The local authorities waited until the video got leaked a month later.
These are bad apples, there’s always going to be some. Let’s take a look at the killings in Chicago, why aren’t you talking about them, oh that’s right it isn’t a dem talking point.
And there it is! The deflection!
Krishna I hope you don’t ever fall off of that high horse your straddling! 😉
Yep, I have fallen off plenty. Get myself up and try again. You? Do you have a horse?
I bet we trade Tua for a bag of clams in 2 years
Really though i think this team will rely more on running and defense than relying on a QB, if Tua is great than so be it.
Yep, that’s the model the cheats used.
Don’t think I’ve seen anyone on the board say anything other than the cops involved should be arrested, jailed and tried for killing Floyd. D thought the mayor could have done a better job communicating. What’s to disagree with? Trump is an asshat and blathering about things he can’t do, but looters should be shot. Looters and arsonist aren’t trying to fix anything, just stealing and destroying.
The criminal justice system isn’t inherently racially discriminatory, but there are people within it that are. As bad as the racists are the politicians who look to benefit from it. There are blacks within it that are just as bad as some whites. I give you Baltimore. Blacks are not killed by cops with any more frequency than whites, Asians, or hispanics.
The clowns in Georgia are in jail as they should be. Hopefully the prosecutor who did not charge them initially will join them. It wasn’t long ago that a black cop shot and killed a white women who called for assistance in Minneapolis. He was convicted of 2nd degree manslaughter. These four should be as well – “…second-degree manslaughter is defined as “whoever by culpable negligence, whereby he creates an unreasonable risk and consciously takes the chance of causing death or great bodily harm to another person, causes the death of another is guilty of manslaughter in the second degree”. (Wikipedia).
That cop should be charged with 1st ° murder! Books like murder to me
Yeh, the rambling is offensive. Call it like it is.
Josh Rosen
To increase his value, the Dolphins need to play him but if he struggles, his value doesn’t increase, it decreases further. It’s a risk that might be worth taking but then what do you do with Ryan Fitzpatrick?
FN U75s. His current value is a 5th at best, should we risk a 5th🤔
I think we should plan on keeping him as a backup for Tua, but if someone wants to make us an offer we can’t refuse…
We have to do something for a backup QB, might as well be Rosen. He’s a pocket passer that needs at least average protection and he’ll be fine. He looked good in preseason.
Josh Rosen maybe better than tua
Lol, seriously though…
We know he’s not better, but Tua’s injuries could result in Rosen having a better career.
Tua has tua many intangibles that say he’s the better QB. I don’t think anyone would seriously question that.
and you know this how? what would Alabama have done last year with Rosen as their qb?
It’s a team sport
many pro evaluators thought Jamarcus russel would be great.
I love the assumptions…..
WHAT ABOUT WHITEWATER!?
You volunteering to go rafting with Piggy? 😉
Clinton corruption at its finest.
Wyoming, that was for the resident what-about-ers. There is a certain segment of the community that CANNOT reflect upon them and theirs. They have this need to muddy the waters of any discussion with “what about this” rather than concede the point of the current discussion.
I don’t believe that to be the case right now. On the other hand, it is hypocritical to bitch and whine about things that the new President is doing when the old one did the same r worse and because it matched your agenda those same people stayed silent. Just thought I’d throw that in there for ya!
What about ers don’t have to be on one side or the other Mike. But I guess we know which side you choose huh?
BTW Steve used the classic “what about Chicago” just up the board here.
When? For example? Please educate me,
Rock as many whataboutthats I see…. it’s like being a kid again. But guess it worked then…. if your brother or sister got a lighter punishment for something similar wasn’t fair. Not a lot of “well that was still wrongs” going on in the world today though.
The looters and arsonists are going to be arrested and convicted. There have already been the first wave of arrests. The “bad apples” in the mob who initiate and contributed to the riot and arson were surrounded by hundreds of people recording it on their phones and posting on facebook, etc.
Not all, but many will be charged and tried.
Well they have a champion!
Rock – Politically? I think it’s pretty clear what side I’m on. Not sure if that’s what you meant though
Hope that means an end to the riots.
If that’s what the rioting was really about, then yes they would stop, but…come on man!
steve — we’ll see, but they weren’t having riots before the incident and the cop getting arrested would be huge from that aspect. What do you think the rioting is really about? I’ve never done any so not an expert.
Cops in Dallas literally did the same thing to a white man last summer. Body cam footage has them laughing as the guy pleaded for help. Where was the outrage then? Crickets…..
Point is it’s a race issue when it serves. Fact is that it’s a systemic problem that has gone on far too long. Doesn’t matter what side of the aisle you stand on.
Cops kill everyone they dont care.
They have a shitty job, let’s not dismiss that. But they also chose to do it.
I dont think anything will change until they bust the all too powerful unions. That would be a good start.
Used to work with cops. Had no problem with them, but then I was the guy representing them when they got sued….. so they sorta wanted to be nice. But my overall impression was a bunch of good guys generally who liked to be in control (and that does fit the job). Like guys on a football team.
Your experience is greatly different than mine.
I’ll just leave it at that.
I’ve lived all over the country and no difference
ER — not doubting your experiences were different at all. But keep in mind was talking generally. Saw what the ones who screwed up got sued for…. and the ones who got fired straight out.
I also think too many people legitimately have TDS. People just have to get lit about every little thing he says or does. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic. I mean get a life!
Mike, I’ll say this though, I almost want Trump to lose just so I don’t have to hear about the stupid shit he says. LOL
I actually feel the same way, not just because of the dumb things he does, says, but how people spend nearly every waking hour finding reasons to criticize what he does. It’s exhausting. Honestly, whoever is president, my life doesn’t change much either way.
Exactly right! My friends and I talk about this all the time. What really changes so extreme regardless of who the president is? Too much is made of who the president is. Some people don’t like to hear that but that’s how many people feel. The USA as a whole is more powerful than any one person.
25 years max on the Minn. 3rd degree murder charges. I expect several other charges too.
Nice write up Mike E
Thanks Ken
For Piggy:
Wild is right!
Hmm, this must be the cause of the ‘shortage’ my guy has been talking about…
😆
You know the Italian mafia is going to be coming after Piggy for messing with their stash
Piggy will just say smelled like truffles. 🙂
LOL
Then there is this. WTF?!!!
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/india/monkey-samples-covid-19-india-intl-scli/index.html
Look, man, I was in NorCal. I’ve never even been to India! Plus the perpetrators look a hell of a lot smaller than me…
LOL
Damn you Kong🐒
LOL @ Kong!
“I’ve had the privilege of being a part of many different circles that have included some very powerful and influential people of all different races and genders,. The events of the last few weeks have brought some of the memories of those conversations back to light. I vividly remember the Colin Kaepernick conversations. ‘Don’t ever disrespect the flag’ was the phrase that I heard over and over again. This idea that players were kneeling in support of social justice was something some people couldn’t wrap their head around. The outrage that I saw in the media and the anger I felt in some of my own private conversations caused me to sever a few long-standing friendships.”
“Most recently, I’ve had conversations about incentivizing teams for hiring minorities. Again, there was some outrage in the media and talks that this would cause division amongst coaches, executives and ownership. I bring these situations up because I haven’t seen the same OUTRAGE from people of influence when the conversation turns to Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor and most recently George Floyd. Many people who broadcast their opinions on kneeling or on the hiring of minorities don’t seem to have an opinion on the recent murders of these young black men and women. I think many of them QUIETLY say that watching George Floyd plead for help is one of the more horrible things they have seen, but it’s said amongst themselves where no one can hear. Broadcasting THAT opinion clearly is not important enough.
“I lead a group of young men who have the potential to make a real impact in this world. My message to them and anyone else who wants to listen is that honesty, transparency, and empathy go a long way in bringing people together and making change. I hope that the tragedies of the last few weeks will open our hearts and minds to a better way of communicating and hopefully create that change.”
— Brian Flores
I really like Brian Flores. I remember when the coaching search was on after we fired Gase and he was last on the list from many of us who knew nothing about him. Maybe, just maybe, we found the right HC. Besides X’s and O’s, he has leadership qualities that you need in a HC.
^^ I have grown to respect him a lot. You probably don’t ever get to see it but every week locally they show the “Coach Brian Flores Show” on Sunday mornings. He is a very smart, articulate and charismatic guy.
Wow..total transparency. Awesome! When is everyone else going to step up?
That’s funny I don’t care who you are!
Tim, I was one of the ones that argued against Flores and wanted one of the other candidates. Mostly for his association with the Pats and the history of failure of Belicheat disciples as HC’s in the past. Pats stink I think I called it.
I was wrong. He has those leadership qualities that lend themselves to the HC position.
Me too until I learned more about him.
Has anyone heard from JahnDoe? I wonder how he is doing. I hope he is doing OK
I just opened a beer from the local micro brewery and it made me think of him
Haven’t seen Jahn in a while, and his business is the kind that will have to recover from this. Like ER’s. Was happy to see that our favorite Asian place is back open…. but word is not good on some of the others. Hoping the landlords won’t have much choice and let them back up.
especially because he is in CA and they were strict from the get go. Positive vibes his way.
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article241560571.html
^^Kyle Van Noy talking about Flores^^
It’s funny, he is asked about the Pats and he says something along the line of we need to just focus on the team we play week one. I know what he meant, but…..the Pats are the team they face week one. LOL
Assume “bubble plan” means Son, ORob, OD and David won’t be able to hit a game together.
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“NBA fans can rejoice, because the league finally has a date in mind to restart the season. NBA commissioner Adam Silver informed the Board of Governors the league is looking at a July 31 start date,”
“The league is reportedly looking into a bubble plan, which would keep all players and teams in one centralized location. Orlando is considered a frontrunner to be that location. The league has had conversations with Disney focused on using Disney’s ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex in Florida to host games.”
Wyoming, Saw that Blaney interview last night after the race. Elliott is your guy or one you like, right?
Yep!
But I was way into some ZZZZZZZZZZZZ’s when the race ended!
My guy finished 7th, I think. Keslowski, who won the 600 but didn’t get to watch that one.
Lucky! Chase had a 2 sec lead before the caution @3 laps left!
Nice. I thought there was a better drum solo version. I love percussion.
All you Dolphins fans should know this song well . . . .
Nice.
That was beautiful. Never heard before. Not a god fearing man either.
The most retarded thing with these riots are the people that walk around with their hands up, while their cohorts are looting, setting fire to things, and throwing things.
Accepted and endorsed criminality and people wonder why these things continue to happen. I told my wife that the Floyd murder was horrible to watch but that doesn’t negate the actions afterwards. If you cared about Floyd, why you robbing Target for a big screen or destroying your local small businesses? Because you really don’t care.
It doesn’t negate any of the aftermath. Such an awful deflection. 4 white guys killed a black man that was begging for mercy. HELLO?
They weren’t all white
Anger has its place. Use it wisely.
New Age,
Is that Jason Robards in Once Upon a Time in the West? Awesome
I don’t know where this question came from, but yeah he’s in it and it’s one of my favorite all time movies.
I really dig the Sergio Leone spaghetti westerns, and Ennio Morricone scores will always be the quintessential western music themes in my mind.
I’m pretty sure New Age’s avi is Cheyenne from Once Upon a Time in the West.
https://youtu.be/4e4bAsQ4r30
Kong
I’m always on my phone so I never noticed it. Lol
I’m there with you on those films. Can’t describe it, just something about those films. Lol
I love both of these themes, but Ecstasy of Gold (starts at 2:36) has always been my favorite. That theme with the three way standoff of the Man with No Name, Angel Eyes, and Tuco in the finale is the best western scene of all time IMO. Lol, think I’m going to throw that movie on right now.
Yessir!
Man I feel old now!
White Lion was a must have in the tape box for an 80’s teen!
That was not 3rd ° murder, it was second ° murder.
The victim was sane he can’t breathe, continuing to pin somebody down with your knee by the neck is not accidental, he meant to cause bodily harm in my opinion
The cop me not have planned to kill this man, which would be premeditated murder. But he’s certainly intended to cause bodily harm by keeping his knee on the geist neck for 7 minutes. Which is second ° murder
3rd ° murder is the intend to cause bodily harm but not death, do you really think jam in your knee and is somebody’s neck for 7 minutes with just cause bodily harm? Seems to me that looks like the guy will never survive I would know that jammie my knee is neck would kill him.
So my question is why the lesser charge?
I don’t know but I had a feeling something like that would happen. I guess it’s in question as to whether he was actually trying to kill him or not.