2019 – Daniel Jones RD1 #6 (Kyler Murray #1)
2018 – Sam Darnold RD1 #3 (Baker Mayfield #1)
2017 – Patrick Mahomes RD1 #10 (Mitchell Trubisky #2)
2016 – Carson Wentz RD1 #2 (Jared Goff #1)
2015 – Marcus Mariota RD1 #2 (Jameis Winston #1)
2014 – Johnny Manziel RD1 #22 (Blake Bortles #3)
2013 – Geno Smith RD2 #22 (E.J. Manuel #16)
2012 – Robert Griffin III #2 (Andrew Luck #1)
2011 – Jake Locker RD1 #8 (Cam Newton #1)
2010 – Tim Tebow RD1 #25 (Sam Bradford #1)
2009 – Mark Sanchez RD1 #5 (Matthew Stafford #1)
2008 – Joe Flacco RD1 #18 (Matt Ryan #3)
2007 – Brady Quinn RD1 #22 (Jamarcus Russell #1)
2006 – Matt Leinart RD#1 #10 (Vince Young #3)
2005 – Aaron Rodgers RD1 #24 (Alex Smith #1)
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So that’s the list of the second QB drafted in each of the last 15 drafts. What’s sometimes more surprising than where they were taken is who was the QB drafted before them and where they were taken. Geno Smith as the second QB taken all the way at pick #54, and E.J. Manuel was the only 1st RD QB in 2013. Patrick Mahomes at #10 8 picks later than Mitch Trubisky eh? There were only 3 years where QB’s went #1 and #2, 2016, 2015 and 2012. Just so you know, I don’t believe this shows any more scientific evidence, but it’s interesting to look at the past, which sometimes reveals the future. I also understand that 15 years ago, the NFL was a different game than the 2020 version but the interesting thing is how much money these first round players were getting paid. We know it all changed after Sam Bradford was drafted #1 in 2010 and signed the most lucrative rookie contract ever in the NFL, 6 YR/$78M with $50M Guaranteed. Aaron Rodgers who slid to #24 in 2005 signed a 5 YR/$7.65M contract.
Let’s start from 2005 and we’ll work our way back to the present. Aaron Rodgers waited 3 full seasons before his 1st start with Brett Favre as the starter. Matt Leinart started after 5 games behind Kurt Warner and finished 4-7. Brady Quinn didn’t start until season 2 and started only 3 games behind Derek Anderson. Joe Flacco started immediately for a stacked Ravens team and went 11-5. Mark Sanchez started immediately for MTP and the Jets and finished 8-7. Tim Tebow started only 3 games but played a fair amount in 9 games although not necessarily as a passer. Jake Locker sat out his entire rookie season. RG III was damn well going to start after they traded a boatload of 1st RD picks for him and he was brilliant until he got injured. The only 2nd RD QB in this group, Geno Smith, started his entire rookie season but Matt Simms was their other QB (who?). Johnny Manziel started only 2 games and was just awful. Marcus Mariota started 12 games and played well but the Titans were pretty bad and they finished 3-9 in his starts. Carson Wentz started immediately and played well although the Iggles went 7-9. Patrick Mahomes started game 16 and won. He’s the guy I consider most similar with Tua. I’ll explain more later. Sam Darnold started 13 games, sat out the first 3 behind Josh McCown. Some may say this is the closest situation to Tua and Fitzpatrick and they might be right. Finally, Daniel Jones started after 4 games and played pretty well despite his 3-9 record.
Why do I think Tua/Fitzpatrick is most similar to Mahomes/Smith? I see 2 veteran QB’s who both have the respect of their HC. Fitzpatrick said it himself, he’ll help Tua in any way he can but Ryan Fitzpatrick wants to be the starting QB this season. Of course mitigating circumstances will no doubt affect how soon Tua starts and I’m not talking about Tua’s health, I’m talking the health of the nation and the Coronavirus pandemic. Having a virtual offseason is not doing Tua any favors. There are rumblings that teams may be able to start OTA’s in June but I fell that unless every single team and their respective states are able to open, that’s not going to happen. Cali is probably the linchpin because they are the least likely to be willing to open up and if they don’t, I don’t see any teams opening because you can’t have some teams working and others not, that takes away the whole parity theme the NFL is built on.
I’ve made it clear (w/o having any actual medical records for Tua) that I feel it would be best to let Ryan Fitzpatrick run this team and if there’s a point of the season where we’re out of it, and Tua is 100%, then I’m fine with giving him the reins, as long as the O-line isn’t a bunch of matadors. On the other hand, I really can’t imagine that he would start immediately, I think that would blow my mind. I want to see what Tua can do, I’m excited that we have arguably the most talented QB in this draft and the most talented QB we’ve had over the last 21 years since Dan Marino left the building. Still, I can’t help but feel that after that devastating hip injury, time will be Tua’s friend. We have so many new faces on our team and we could conceivably have 4-5 new starters on our O-line. Jackson LT, Flowers LG, Karras C, Hunt RG and Davis RT, that’s 4. Plug Kindley in at RG and Hunt at RT that’s 5. Think they might take some time to jell? I don’t want our new QB subjected to that kind of situation, no sir!
I’d love to hear your thoughts on this, let em rip!
GO DOLPHINS!!!
#staythecourse
Finsmob Unleashed 
I think we can’t have a conversation on racism and police brutality while there is rioting and looting. The protestors are responsible for their actions. If they, the protestors, are not separating riotes and looters from their gatherings and not doing anything to stop them or point them out for arrest, then the protestors are guilty of abetting the violence.
The looting, violence, and criminality have nothing to do with race relations. It’s all either extremist politics or crimes of opportunity.
Phelon,
Do you listen to Tucker? Here’s a link the the 10 unarmed black deaths last year. That was out of 10,300,000 arrests and over 320,000,000 police interactions. 31 other people died from police actions but we’ll focus on the ones everyone seems to care about.
I don’t listen to him. Or anyone else for that matter. I have seen the stats in other places and I agree the “issue” is over-blown by politics and media saturation and almost always brought on by individual actions. Floyd was murdered by an asshole being an asshole. Charges were brought. Don’t know if.they would have without the initial protests.
Generally speaking, the police brutality being protested is brought on by criminals resisting arrest. Blacks are looked on with more suspicion because statistically more crime is committed by the black community. The number one killer of young black males is other young black males. Until we can talk about the underlying conditions that breed racism without being called racists, we can’t talk about fixing the problems. Because right now society is being told we must accept bad behavior based on skin color.
Phelon,
Did you read about David Dorn while talking about laws specifically allowing anarchy? He gave 40 years of his life for some thug to end it on a whim one night. I watched the video. Horrific and exactly what happens in these almost lawless Dem controlled cities. Isn’t it weird that places like Minneapolis, where Dems have run the city for almost 5 decades, have the worst systemic racism? It’s almost like the DNC never stopped being who they always were but just elected a few black people to try and hide it.
Blue politics tend to be urban politics. Living in a big city requires much more cooperative give and take and less individual right. The dichotomy is that they also require more order and more authoritarian government to survive. When liberal politics start chipping away at the order, they also chip away at the individual morales and responsibilities of the people there. That leads to more crime. In away, big cities are the exemplars of socialism and why it fails. All my opinion of course.
New Age – Response up above for you on Trump
Yesterday I watched this video about “white privilege.”
When I was done I was irate and thought what a crock. Then I wondered why I felt that way, so I thought about the questions asked. I realized that if I had been in the crowd, I would have been standing with the black dudes when the race started. White privilege is bullshit. Using your past as an excuse for failure is bullshit. Using your past or the actions of others as a justification for your own actions is bullshit and weak-minded. We make ourselves. Are my kids going to have a head start? Damn right…that’s one of the by products of my success. But they will ultimately be happy or not on their own.
I thought they support Trump, got him elected? This will probably knock him out
I doubt it will knock him out. Only way that happens is if someone gets a viable candidate up there. If Mattis or Crenshaw we’re to run as independents….
Prior to impeachment as part of the investigation mueller filed a lawsuit in fed court against Russian entities that the Created fake account and not farms to agitate people online
They picked controversial subjects, used real people pics and IDs
It wasn’t necessarily in favor of a candidate (although it was in many cases)
That’s not just the US. the UK, France and Netherlands among other countries have reported or taken action against this problem
Russia has historically engaged in propoganda wars during the Cold War- the difference now is the use of the internet and social media sites
It doesn’t actually mean Trump or his campaign or any campaign was a part of it and it’s not why Trump was impeached and then acquitted in the senate
But Russian interference in our politics should not be controversial or political. it’s what they do , it’s what they always done
The DOJ still publishes the lawsuit
Here is a link
https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download
In March 2020 under Barr, after Mueller resigned his position, Barr put a stop to this
I think it’s very reliable to believe and expect to see it on social media again m 2020
Exactly Piggy. It’s like people forgot the Cold War.
New Age – I think we have a different idea of pandering and just doing the right thing. I know Trump is tight with law enforcement and the military, as he should be. On the other hand, there’s nothing wrong with fixing issues that exist and have existed for far too long. I also understand the complexities of white cops dealing with black criminals in their neighborhood. It’s why I think there should be more black cops and community policing should be instituted in every big city. If people who came from that community policed the people in that community, the relationships would be much easier to tolerate from both sides. He can say things have to be fixed (because they need to be!) and not step on any toes. Good police hate these incidents more than we do because #1 it puts a target on their back and #2 the respect that they get erodes significantly because everyone is a bad cop. I also understand white people get killed by cops, and get mistreated by cops, but there is a disproportionate amount of these incidents with black people. Fact of the matter is, the timing of George Floyd right after Ahmaud Arbery was great time to try and get something in motion for a positive gain, instead he played defense and in antagonistic manner. Know what I’m saying? Sure, everything he would do or say would be looked at through a different lens by the Dems and liberals but doing something right is doing something right. He hasn’t done a thing right during this entire event. That bothers me.
I HATE the kneeling. It was specifically chosen by Kaepernick to dishonor our flag. To dishonor our vets. Listen to him talk about Castro. He’s human feces and that has nothing to do with melanin levels.
Please don’t push false naratives man. It was NOT to dishonor the flag. What does kneeling during the anthem even have to do with the flag? There IS no flag in the situation to dishonor. It has NOTHING to do with Vets. These are conflated issues that the far right brought in to take away from the message which was ALWAYS about the inequity in the treatment of blacks.
NO FLAG
NO VETS
We are not “Honoring” vets when we stand for the anthem. We are honoring the flag when we stand. That is not what it is about in the first place so how could his actions be to dishonor them?
Simple answer – They are not. This has been a false narrative from the far right since the beginning.
**NOT honoring the flag
pheloniusphish says:
June 4, 2020 at 9:48 am
I agree on the buying their way out part. But I think if you get caught committing a crime you should be held until your trial.
I agree to a point but it depends on the severity of the crime charged. The “justice” system takes quite a long time. Sometimes the wait for final trial takes as long as the recommended sentence. Is it fair to incarcerate an accused (everyone is innocent until proven guilty, not the opposite) for a period of time longer than the sentence while waiting for their trial?
That whole right to a speedy trail thing I guess.
I was going to say that I broke the blog, but there is already a four hour gap between MikeE’s post and mine so I am going to blame it on Mike. LOL
MIKE BROKE THE BLOG!
I don’t really care about the kneeling. I just don’t like Kaepernick’s message. It’s about hate and inciting violence.it is also false narrative. Every case that he pointed to at the time was a criminal violently resisting arrest. I dislike his anti-America rhetoric. He is a racist.
don’t like him other but I will defend his right to say what he wants with my life.
Rock,
Obviously, IT IS. For Drew Brees, IT IS. For certain veterans, IT IS. It’s a false narrative because one side wants it to be a false narrative. Let’s ask Kaepernick himself, shall we? “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color,” Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. Did you read that part. I will NOT show pride in a flag. False narrative? I think not.
Let me ask you something. Everyone here is upset Trump isn’t trying to find middle ground. What part of middle ground is kneeling after one side says they feel it disrespects them and their families? Go ahead. Tell me how refusing to find middle ground on kneeling, is compromise. Is there NOTHING DIFFERENT he could have done? Something besides visibly and vocally disrespecting the flag? I think he could have. I think it would have been EASY. I think a highly visible, highly paid entertainer could have found a way to get it out differently. He CHOSE to disrespect the flag. You choose to defend that disrespect. I do not. Go ahead. Let others think for you. I will not.
I’m a veteran. I never felt it was a slight against me or anyone I served with when someone knelt when the flag was presented. It’s the whole First Amendment thing with me, I guess. I didn’t like the way Kaep went about establishing his message, but the kneeling- eh. People kneel when they pray, that’s not a sign of disrespect; actually, it’s a sign of deference.
I can’t speak for any other veterans.
I think if he wasn’t as belligerent it would have went over better. He said it was meant as disrespect and I’m sure that goaded people. He didn’t want solidarity. That’s the lie being told today. He wanted attention and to push discord.
Mike E,
We do have different ideas on what is pandering and what is right. I think working together is side by side. Compromise is both sides giving something. That isn’t happening and I’m pretty shocked people can’t even see that very visible truth. Tell me again, what did Drew Brees do wrong? Why are they upset when he wants to do right by the black community? It’s because he didn’t follow directions. He didn’t march to their demands. Tell me how it’s anything but that.
Mike, I want justice for the wronged. Not to push a false agenda. There are bad cops and they should be punished. There is not systemic racism in our police forces. There is zero evidence. These incidents happen just as often or more in highly concentrated black police forces. In liberal cities that haven’t had a Republican mayor for decades. We just saw that 4 black and 2 white cops were removed for tazering two young black people during the riots. There is zero evidence for this feels agenda.
Mike, I ask you again. Watch that Tucker Carlson clip I put up above. Be open minded but watch the FACTS. There was a study done last year or the year before that showed no specific racism by cops overall. It actually showed less cops killing black people since Trump was elected than when Obama was in office. It showed white cops being a bit wary of arresting black criminals because of situations like this. Let’s use facts for once.
There are videos of black people saying they need to see whites showing BLM support in NYC by kneeling before them. That has nothing to do with solidarity. That’s submission no matter what wordage you want to obfuscate it with.
Mike, you said you want good optics and no toes stepped on. I would rather see justice. I would rather see honest conversations. The facts say it isn’t disproportionate for blacks. Most cities with a large black population have black mayors, police chiefs and large numbers of black cops. Cops already do some community policing but they are treated like SHIT and there are many no go zones because of the cries of racism for specifically going to the areas of high crime….minority slums.
Mike, I will believe one side wants honest conversations when they bring up 70% single child households. Proven to cause a massive percentage of all the ills in these communities, it’s still swept under the rug. When they start talking about the 500-700 blacks killed by gang violence in Chicago EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Swept under the rug. The push to put them on welfare, push abortions, and keep them poor. I’ll know they want compromise, when these communities accept the responsibility to shame their criminals instead of promote them. When gang culture, and athlete culture isn’t promoted as the road to success instead of the one chosen by Neil Degrasse Tyson, Ben Carson, etc. When I see the 70% and very rich black athletes coming in to teach and build, not provide optics and leave. Where do these black athletes live? Nowhere near other black people. In their own ivory towers.
We agree on a lot. I don’t agree that Trump could have changed the optics without giving them EVERYTHING they asked for a not a bit less. That’s not working together bud.
pheloniusphish says:
June 4, 2020 at 4:28 pm
That whole right to a speedy trail thing I guess.
Reply
Yeah, but at the same time you need to allow the people (prosecution) to time to collect evidence and build a case.
Nothing is always black and white. (is that saying racist?) but rather shades of gray. That is why the bond system was instituted. It is not perfect at all and IS slanted toward more financially secure individuals but like most things in this greatest of all countries it is a compromise.
New Age – you have some good points for sure. I don’t think I was looking for good optics, I was looking for him to show a little sympathy for a lot of black people that are hurting. I don’t know what to say man, he came off not only as uncaring but even more so that he was going to show those black folk who tested him who was boss. That’s not optics, that’s just douchebaggery from the POTUS. If you want to call saying some nice things like we all hurt from this, and protests will be allowed, but they must be kept peaceful and w/o violence as optics, then so be it. Just show you fucking care. It’s almost like most of us expect him not to, and he didn’t let us down in that regard. What I was thinking of earlier in the day and thankfully it just popped back into my head. You throw statistics out there, and as Steve always says, they don’t always tell the whole story. This wasn’t just one cop that perpetrated this murder. The other 3 jerkoffs that stayed around with their hands in their pockets while this guy was dying is almost worse to me than the fucking guy with his knee on George Floyd’s neck. This doesn’t show up in any stats, because how could it. It’s not just the one bad cop, it’s the others that allow things like this to happen. That to me IS a systemic problem because I can almost guarantee you this isn’t an isolated situation. Cops are afraid to go up against their superiors, partners, guys they may actually just fear and that’s a huge problem. OR, maybe they liked what was going so they did nothing. I truly believe that the inner cities where black people are killing themselves at an alarming rate and others of course too, and are getting killed by police and also killing police could be helped by community policing. I hope one day we get to find out if I’m right, because what is currently in place sure as hell ain’t working. I agree very much that households w/o fathers is a huge issue, and I think that’s where community police would help greatly. Have a guy from the community, people know and respect, kids included who can be that father figure so to speak. Better than having a white outsider shoved in their face instead. People are usually more comfortable with people like themselves and are wary of others. It’s worth a shot
Crapernick did it because it was controversial. If it wasn’t it wouldn’t have gotten attention. His first amendment rights gave him the right and his celebrity gave him the platform. As Tripod stated above the whole kneeling thing isn’t inherently disrespectful.
Also, I feel the narrative was hijacked by the opposition with excessive outrage.
Which is more outrageous? Bad cops never being weeded out of the system because they are systemically protected and get away with this shit or that some dumbass who PLAYS A GAME for a living “Disrespected the flag and all veterinas who defended that flag” I know which I think is more outrageous to me. I doubt very much you or 99% of America stand for the anthem when at home or at the bar watching.
That’s what I meant by false narrative. I should have said hijacked narrative. The message (which i believe is righteous) was lost in the noise.
I agree with that but I also think he helped hijack. It’s a huge problem but aren’t all unions a huge aspect of it? Without these powerful unions that primarily help the bad apples, we’d have better results. I work with a union and they are terrible.
YES This is one of the largest parts of the system that is a problem! Absolutely.
Rock,
I’m not a huge Trump fan. I agree with a lot that Piggy posts. I also know that Dem and Republican leadership does not care about us. I want the outsiders to win. I want the government bureaucracy gutted. These people have had decades in Congress to fix these issues. Where has Congress been all these years with lifers ‘serving the public’?
Trump is not popular with the globalists. That’s why I vote for him. I hoppe he burns it all down and we start getting our rights back. Maybe the guy after him will but Biden isn’t that guy. China bought that swamp creature long ago.
As far as Drew Brees is concerned, which I never brought up, I think both sides have a right to think what they want. I’m surprised his teammates are so miffed by it because he;s done a shit ton of good for the communities in NO which many are black, so I don’t know why they’re angry at his opinion, they should accept it and move on. He’s not unsympathetic to their cause, just their form of protest.
Mike E,
I agree he could have been more caring. He’s fucked up a lot the past few months but I truthfully think nothing he said or did would have mattered. Was he invited to the funeral? I know Biden was and he didn’t know the family either. David Dorn wasn’t even in the news and he protected his city for 40 years while Floyd was a criminal high on drugs. He didn’t deserve to die but I know Dorn didn’t either. Don’t think Dems care about black people. Black narratives, sometimes. I’d take a knee for David Dorn every day.
Mike, the crazy thing I’ve seen lately is where is the outrage for Democrat leadership? Minneapolis leadership just sat there and let their city burn. Most of the DAs for these cities are letting looters off as soon as they hit the jails. Deblasio is looking much harder at his police than the rioters. His daughter was actively out there promoting the looting.
Not one of these Democratic cities has successfully stopped looting, burning, and destroying of private property. Who do you think ends up paying for this? The looters? Does the fear and destruction of people’s livelihood help bridge the gap? Then where are Dems decrying the looting? Where is Biden? Pelosi? Why aren’t they saying the looting is not acceptable for any reason. Why isn’t the looting stopping after the cops were charged? That’s just not part of the narrative being sold.
That’s a different issue in and of itself. Trump probably was invited because his inaction and non caring attitude. As far as Democratic leadership, it’s usually garbage. I totally think the left and the Dems, mostly one in the same are using this for political gain. No question about it. I don’t expect any different. I just an opportunity was teed up for Trump and while you’re probably right that nothing he could have said would be viewed by the left as sincere or enough, it may have been enough to keep my vote. He’s fucked now, I won’t vote for him, although to be fair, he probably never had a shot im y state of NJ anyway. lol
^ wasn’t invited
Hey, you gotta vote for who you feel is the best candidate. He’s probably lost a lot of people but I don’t know how people can vote Biden. Maybe a less terrible candidate but Biden? The kid sniffer?
And I hope that didn’t sound like you can’t vote Biden if you feel that way. I just can’t stand the dude. Dems had a real chance here and they blew it.
Another thing to consider, and once again, stats can’t possibly bear this out. George Floyd forged a check. He didn’t kill anyone yet he was dragged out of his car to start this whole murder in motion. Does this happen with a white dude? No shot in hell do things unfold like that.
Mike,
Actually, yes.
And I’m not saying treatment is equal but imagine if everyone got away from the melanin of your skin and just said, “hey, this police problem kills people of all races and it’s got to stop! Let’s have people from all races and classes work together on this. And can you trouble makers not loot because we’d all like to see you in prison for domestic terrorism if you do? Thanks! Tim Kaine, Bill Deblasio, can your kids handle that?”
That was disturbing but I have no background information about those 2 people. I don’t know what they did and why they were being treated like that. George Floyd forged a $20 check, he was no threat, and he was treated like he killed a bunch of people. We don’t have to agree on this, it’s not important. I feel the way I do and you feel the way you do, it’s cool
Yeah, it’s all good.
Just curious, how and when did China buy Biden?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/analysis-hunter-biden-tied-to-china-firm-with-questionable-dealings
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/trumps-claims-about-hunter-biden-in-china/
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/05/27/biden-center-at-upenn-under-fire-over-financial-ties-to-china/
https://nypost.com/2019/05/11/the-troubling-reason-why-biden-is-so-soft-on-china/
Last week, Biden raised eyebrows when he shrugged off concerns over the China threat. “Come on, man,” Biden said. “I mean, you know, they’re not bad folks, folks. But guess what, they’re not competition for us.”
Nope, China isn’t our enemy folks. Nothing to see here. Move along now. I gotta talk to Corn Pop for a bit.
DID YOU JUST POST A BREITBART ARTICLE AS PROOF TO SOMETHING!!?
ok, uh…I’m give.
There is a commercial on WSPN of the 2020 NFL 1st round draft class.
I LOVE that there were three guys wearing dolphins hats in the commercial! LOL
Also, can someone please tell me who these globalists are? Could they be business owners who have properties and investments in foreign countries and were attempting to conclude a business deal with a hostile foreign power while running for office, and perhaps lied about it and said he wasn’t when, yeah, in fact he was?
fox in hen house……
And while we are on the subject, I don’t know how comfortable I am with the Flash and his buddies from S.T.A.R. Labs just grabbing metahumans off the street and locking them in the pipeline without due process!
Rock / Mike,
Something to lighten the mood. Rock, breitbart is no worse than CNN, MSNBC, etc
LMAO! “That would make it over for me.”
Holy shit !! You can’t discredit people for their priorities 😆 #PEOPLETHATCANTGETLAIDLIVESMATTER
Man Charlie Sheen has really let himself go.
Lol
New Age, that was pretty funny
Phelon,
That’s why I referred to a range. Sociopaths and psychopaths actually share many traits…as they are both on a continuum of personality. Trump is somewhere on that curve. I’m fine with that description. Lol
Tru nuff
Phelon,
I’m curious about your opinion since you’ve been in a lot of different places. Do you see this as a changing point for our republic or just a blip compared to other worlds? Does it look or feel familiar?
Wrong one saved.
https://twitter.com/dma4him/status/1267474764442013702
That is awesome!!!
Which AFC East team is most likely to finish in the cellar in 2020?
I agree Mr. Crabbs
“Gase’s teams have been paltry moving the football for years and play a sloppy, undisciplined brand of football. Pair that with the improvements throughout the rest of the division (mainly in Miami and Buffalo) and the continued presence of Bill Belichick in New England and the team entering the 2020 season with the least appeal is the Jets. Despite Miami’s tumble to the cellar in 2019, look for the Jets to reclaim their positioning — they’d finished in 4th place in each of the three previous seasons and in four of the last six years overall.”
Let’s hope this is true at the end of the season.
Drew Brees says he stands for the pledge of allegiance and everyone is upset with him?
here we go again!
this kneeling is going to wreck the NFL. very divisive, if the owners allow that; people who don’t believe in that will stop supporting the NFL and vice versa.
either way the NFL takes a hit.
He didn’t just say he stands
He said he thinks kneeling is disrespectful to the flag
That’s a political position that goes beyond his personal choices
So it’s no surprise it came back at him by people who disagree
You are right though, the nfl can’t win
Everyone has an opinion
If you are vocal about yours, people will let you know they disagree
That’s okay as far as I am concerned
But for the nfl it’s put them in the middle of something they probably didn’t want to be in the middle of
If I was the nfl and worried about the product, I would not interfere with the ways players express themselves and let the fans sort out who they agree with
I can’t remember when i’ve been more excited about the start of a season, I would assume it’s because we are at the start of a new team.
the way they finished last year 5-4 over the last 9 i’m expecting great things from this team.
i think the running game will be much improved with the additions of howard and brieda, they will have great running lanes with our new OL and chan gaileys spread offense.
he spreads the D out and that alone will create running lanes.
Man, I hope so. I just can’t stop thinking about the hope we have had in previous seasons. Remember wining our final 6 games in a row in 2005? We had so much hope going into the following season with “momentum” then we opened 2006 with one win in the first 7 weeks.
I was more jaded and less optimistic about closing out the 2008 season with with only one loss in the final 10 games AND making the playoffs. Then we lost the first three in a row in 09 and wound up with a losing record.
Both times we had a “new regime” and showed good progress in the first year under the new coach. BOTH times we regressed the following year (all hope for better aside)
THIS time we got our guy…..
I started out very anti kneeling, and mostly why is who was doing the kneeling and the other things he did that made his motives seem anti America. He even stayed once that he didn’t respect the country or the flag.
People like Stills and a few others, though made me look at it again, and I had a change of heart. They exemplified the heart of protest and what makes protest effective. I know it changed my feelings on things, so effective and considerate. They could have done it different but most didn’t do it disrespectful. Kap did and I’ll never support him, but I do support the others in their protest.
Another big difference is Stills and many others took the next step. Kap didn’t. Protests are to get attention to an injustice, it can’t continue forever it doesn’t create change, the action afterwards creates the change.
Incidentally that is the same thing with the difference between the peaceful protests and the riots. One opens eyes and ears and the other shuts them down. On both sides, the assholes need to be called out. The detractors and dividers need to be called out. Separate the chaff from the wheat and start baking bread that can feed the hunger most of us have for change. Well except for those who might be gluten sensitive but ya know fuck those weak fucks 🙂
Randy – I will answer your question when I get to my computer. I want to make sure the answer rises to the level of the question. Can’t do that at typing with my thumbs.
D – I’m kinda with ya on the kneeling. There are so many guys like Stills that aren’t doing this strictly for appearance, they’re trying hard to make changes and reform. I respect that. While there are still some players do it almost as an FU, I can live with it if there are enough of the guys that truly care about the cause, which isn’t necessarily Kaepernick’s cause. His was definitely more of an FU to police and our nation in general which I don’t like.
Also, from what I recall, they don’t really focus on it on the TV broadcast if show it all so no big deal.
I’d replace halftime shows or include them as part of the halftime stuff to have a show of unity and support for each other, which to me puts it on an even bigger stage
I’m for any change that makes life better for my children and I think racial harmony is best for them and the next generation and the next, so no question on my support of it. I’ll never support Kap though. He’s a disgusting hate monger and his agenda is not harmony.
I’m not for kneeling, it is directed in the wrong place, the federal govt nor the people of the armed forces that gave their life protecting yours did not have anything to do with racial injustice. they are used as a platform to get a point across, an innocent bystander in this crap.
if i didn’t like what a man was doing should i go up and slap his wife or kids just for attention or should i confront the man responsible?
Thing is Rob, it’s really up for interpretation whether kneeling during the Star Spangled Banner is disrespecting the flag or any veterans that fought for our freedom. We’ve already had Try Pod here say he doesn’t feel insulted and he served.
i’m sure the majority of veterans would not approve of kneeling, it’s a misguided attempt to gain notoriety.
they are punishing the wrong institution, and i get it but enough is enough.
Rockphin says:
June 5, 2020 at 11:01 am
Man, I hope so. I just can’t stop thinking about the hope we have had in previous seasons. Remember wining our final 6 games in a row in 2005?
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how about the 99 season! we were 8-2, we then went 1-5 to finish the season and got crushed by Jacksonville in the playoffs.
Marino’s last game
The Flying Pig says:
June 5, 2020 at 1:30 pm
He didn’t just say he stands
He said he thinks kneeling is disrespectful to the flag
That’s a political position that goes beyond his personal choices.
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not sure what your last sentence means however Drew Brees has a right ti his opinion as does everyone else, and i totally agree with him, kneeling is disrespectful to the flag and everyone who fought or lost their lives defending this country.
That’s the whole point, Kapernick first would not stand or kneel, he just sat during the anthem. it’s clear his intentions were to disrespect the flag.
so their intention on kneeling is to disrespect the flag therefore Brees is correct.
I Mean that there is a huge difference between saying “I stand for the flag” vs “kneeling is disrespectful”.
He didn’t say what you said
He said something stronger that is bound to get people to express their opions right back at him
No question, he’s got a right to his opinion and to say things however he likes, at least that what I think
But he ended up apologizing so, I think he regrets the way he said it
I’m really protective of the memory of my grandfather. He served in some really rough campaigns in the Pacific. He wasn’t alive for the kneeling but in conversations of the past I had had with him, he didn’t seem to have strong opinions against protests even ones that involved the flag. He said they defended all of our freedoms and that included ones that sometimes are used disrespectfully.
So at the heart of things, I wish it was different, I wish they code a different avenue, bit as is their right, they may choose to protest as they see fit and as long as it’s constructive in the long run I can stomach putting my feelings aside for the greater good. The oppressed cannot be told how to protest or it’s validation of their oppression and I would like to think we are better than that.
Piggy and Mike, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who’s gonna do it? Kaepernick?
We have a greater responsibility than you two can possibly fathom. You weep for kneeling, and you curse the Flag. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know — that the flag, while tragic, probably saved lives.
and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.
You can’t handle the truth!
LOL
I don’t know if you ever saw this but it’s hilarious to me
If you don’t know Steve King is a congressman from Iowa that’s very hated by the left
He recently just lost an election
Klippenstein is Bernie Bros journalist who rights for a small unpopular periodical that is very far left
So Klippenstoen trolls King and got him with this one
I think they are both a holes btw
Rob – Would you stop watching the NFL if they showed the kneeling on TV?
I did become dis interested in it when it was getting out of control. it’s not hard for me to dump the NFL, my team is the dolphins and it may be better to stay away as to watching people disrespect the flag and on top of that getting our ass kicked every sunday.
I actually personally got annoyed that showing people kneel was a weekly occurrence
I still want them to be able to kneel or express themselves how they like
I just am ready for escapism at 1pm on Sunday afternoon
I’d tune in to watch something at half time when normally I usually go get something to eat or veg out, maybe smoke a cigar. It would still get front and center stage attention, people couldn’t use the dishonoring the flag as an excuse to ignore it, and I really think some good stuff could be done in that 15 minutes.
LOL @ Firefly season two. I really liked that show and was upset when it was cancelled.
also laughing at 2nd stimulus check. Because my first Stimulus check was $21.00. I kept the letter from Trump on my fridge.
Illegals don’t deserver stimulus 🙂
I’m legal you jackass. LOL
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/06/05/charles-barkley-calls-reaction-to-drew-brees-comments-overkill/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Once again, I agree with Barkley, not to mention I think if we progress it’s not acceptable to shut a person. Out if they say something like that. You reach out and have a conversation. You don’t hate, you educate. Break the cycle of ignorance.
So who thinks de-funding/getting rid of police forces is good?
Defunding is bad
Regulating them and overseeing their conduct, Removing their immunity And weeding out corruption is good…in fact necessary
Wholesale policy changes on the local legal and federal oversight necessary
Also get rid of 1033 so they don’t buy/inherit unused military equipment
I doubt definitely being the police become a campaign promise of Biden of a lot of mainstream democrats
It’s petty radical
i’m ok with it…… but I don’t think the lefty’s are ready for it, lol.
When the left reads your response and considers that almost every professional athlete is with them…
You shouldn’t wish for it either
All of us need the protection of a police force
And all of us need public servants and not out of control thugs
It’s not good for anyone – even if one side wants to puff their chest out and pretend it would be
I’m NOT wishing it. I said i’m ok with it, as in READY / PREPARED for it. better than most I bet (you included)
You can post your name and address on twitter, dare them to come after you without any police protection and see how it turns out for you if you like
I wouldn’t
Come on Top…let’s not beat our chests only to have to rub bengay on it later…
We are all over the hill on this site
Without the police, the young and ruthless will dominate the weak
You’ll be as fucked as the rest of us
Let’s be real about it
being well trained and prepared is NOT beating ones chest …. just sayin.
“BRING OUT YOUR DEAD” …….without law enforcement, anarchist will rue the day they wished this upon us ……….. KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY MY BROTHERS.
Pigs – I agree that no police would be a disaster Of biblical proportions. But not the part about pro athletes. They’re just bigger, faster targets.
No police means no one to enforce laws, hence no law. People will cluster in tribes and the strong will feed on the weak.
Whomever is weak or strong is not a matter of politics though
Nope. It’s a matter of will, training, and firepower.
Crank this one up, good funk in this one. Enjoy!
Top, you must be well stock on your 5.56
amongst other things my friend 🙂
LOL @ defunding the police. Kinda like burning down the forest to curb an over-logging problem.
it would be the dumbest idea in the worlds history of dumb ideas……. bar none.
Almost famous was on showtime today and it’s filled with Led Zeppelin songs and references
Randy – Good question. I think we are in the midst of a change that started some time ago, The Floyd murder and the response to it are symptoms of the change. There are a few on the board who will remember the military being deployed in response to anti-war protest in 1975. I’m not sure when it started, As for parallels, I would say look at any great empire…Rome, the UK, the Ottomans, etc. At some point they all become victims of their own success. Revolution or strife is followed by stability, which begets productivity that is followed by great prosperity, then social decline. America is still in the great prosperity phase – our homeless have cell phones and no one has to starve. Compared to the poverty of other countries….well, I’ve seen places where their poor would consider our poor rich.
What I see is a complete lack of of leadership and direction as a country. At our greatest unity, we were an empire – we overthrew a government and installed our own so we could build the Panama Canal to increase the profitability of trade. And it was acceptable to do that in that time. Not today. Today we are only involved outside the country in things that we probably shouldn’t be involved in. Fighting other nation’s wars is a losing proposition. War is about destroying your enemy’s will to fight and you do that by crushing them with overwhelming force. War is about conquering, about empire. Last war we won was WWII. We have no direction and the people we elect (all sides) are professional politicians not leaders. They are only in it for graft, personal power, and self-aggrandizement.
The socialist/anarchist movement isn’t new (read F. A. Hayek’s “The Road to Serfdom”), been around since before WWII at least. But it is more widespread because we have allowed our “educators “ to become indoctrinators. The prosperous we’ve become, the more we’ve handed off our children to others. Unfortunately, information is the blessing and the curse of the current generation. They have the world’s knowledge at their fingertips, but no way knowing what’s true or not.
How does it compare to other places? Not much different. Racism and tribalism are human conditions. I haven’t seen the country where it didn’t exist. Some just hide it better than others. But it seems to me that the better off we are the less satisfied we are.
Amen!
great song you can feel the urgency in the drums
one of my favs brings back memories , never released on an album , itwas the only single ever released by them without their permission , they werenot happy about that
yup
Wow, t stepped away. Now, glad I did. LOL. Isn’t it Friday Tune Freakout?
ORob
Bonham is arguable the greatest drummer in rock history
…and he has ham in his name
BLM put out a statement saying “we don’t want to hug the police, we don’t want to kneel with police, we don’t want to talk with police, we want to defund the police.” IMO that drawing a line of not wanting to fix things, they want to destroy. Both they and antifa are completely corrupt organizations that have far too often hijacked peaceful protest and what’s worse is they have convinced so many they stand for something most of us can get behind, when actually they are no better that the cops they complain about.
Yeah, that’s totally fucked. W/O police there is anarchy.
Phelon – That was a great post at 8:37PM – Well done
Thanks Mike
New-old subject – COVID-19 And the problem with scientism. Scientism is the blind belief in science and anyone who connects themselves to. It’s when people use “scientist/doctors say….” as a basis of their stance on a given study. It overlooks that science revolves around disproving the null hypothesis. Scientists and doctors are as fucked up as the rest of us.
The study claiming use of Malaria medications to treat Covid-19 results in higher death rates Is retracted.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext
It seems the company that developed the data for the study Was formed by a shady doctor and Has six employees that include a science fiction writer and a porn star. But no one with a scientific research background.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgisphere
A good example of why the peer review process is so important.
D-Day 💪
Phelon,
Thanks for the response. I think it’s an interesting time in our society, but I’m not sure any of this is going to actually cause any concrete change. The problem isn’t police killing black people anyway. It’s much more complicated than that. The bigger issues of economic disparity, the disappearance of the middle class and government corruption and how it impacts expenditures and resources are way bigger problems….with all due respect to the black community. But, maybe this can be a catalyst for change in those areas. It’ll be interesting to watch it play out.
D, found another speedy slot WR we could look at next draft. I think this makes 4 guys so far who are sub 4.3 guys. Tutu Atwell from Louisville runs around a 4.27. He is a little light at 153 though. Still like Waddle the most.
I remembered him from watching the Music City Bowl against Miss. State but couldn’t remember his name until now.
Randy – Spot on.
I also agree with Randy. Another big problem is the MSM not doing their job. Being the right arm of the left causes people to be misinformed.
Let’s take Mike for example, he heard tear gas and rubber bullets were used in DC to push back innocent protesters, so Trump could go on a stroll. DOD has said no tear gas or rubber bullets were used to push back the perimeter of the white house back a block. So which is true? Depends on which fact checker you use.
The corruption in govt doesn’t stop at the national level, it goes all the way down to local levels, but the biggest problems are at the top.
Its mind blowing to me how people can look the other way when Hillary is caught selling influence, Biden doing the same, then be so irrate when there’s the possibility Trump is doing it, because the left and MSM are propagating that.
We all know from the playbook of the left, don’t let a good tragedy go to waste, why the George Floyd issue is so popular. Stats show black people are killed by police at a lower rate than white people.
I keep hearing, for anything to be done about this issue, white people need to be in on the police brutality issue. With that said wouldn’t you think showing a white man killed by a cop would bring a lot of white people into the fight? Obviously it would.
So why doesn’t the left do that? Just like the Al Sharptons of the country, they really don’t care about solving the issue, they care about dividing people through systematic racism. The identity politics they play depends on it.
I have non police officer family members, that worked in admin jobs that all agree there’s an issue with cops having too much power and there needs to be some reform. I don’t think too many people would argue that, but once that problem is lessened, to a negligent amount, it’s not going to change anything. The people bitching about it now are still going to bitch about it, because they’re never satisfied, because they’ll always have the politics of the left pissing in their ear about something.
This greed for power and wealth from lifetime politicians in this country is causing the divide we see today. People need to do a little research themselves instead of watching the news.
They didn’t use tear gas to push back protesters in DC
They used pepper ball that spreads a pepper spray mist
It’s still using a chemical on crowd of protestors and absurd conduct for any govt that values the 1st amendment
And dangerous
It should never happen
Who cares if the media initially reported tear gas. Do you think they were given a memo of exactly what was being launched into the crowd before they did it? It’s the fact that they launched anything into a crowd of protestors that’s a problem not what was used
The distinction doesn’t matter
This is the shit sandwich trump asks his all supporters to defend him with with all his attacks on the media – get mad at the media who has to report as best as possible what’s going on, look for a minor distinction, focus on that and absolve trump of any misconduct
It’s like that silly distinction when people say he didn’t call covid19 a Democratic hoax. It’s true he didn’t say that he accused Democrats of ‘politicizing’ it and claimed that the outbreak is “their new hoax”. That still highlights that his administration didn’t take it seriously.
What’s important is that he downplayed how dangerous covid19 was but trump apologists want to focus on semantics and scream fake news
The crowd that tells you America is too PC is all about semantics when they are defending Trump. The media better say every detail right or nor report about Trump at all is a terrific threshold for him to do whatever he wants
He’s got an army of defenders screaming at the media about minor differences so that people excuse conduct that is otherwise unacceptable for a president
If the President shot pistachio ice cream into the crowd to silence them it would still undermine the foundation of our democratic republic.
That is awesome!
Yeah, great job by Parker, but the Tweet makes no sense.
Tua will take advantage of those things Parker does soon.
I often hear people say, well in college, he always had open receivers to throw to. You still have to find them at the right time. You also get receivers open by moving the DBs with your eyes. These are some of the traits Tua possesses, that will make you think WTF was Tannehill doing?
Is everybody out protesting?
TryPod, nah, see no use in it. BLM, ANTIFA, rioters, looters, etc have ruined the message from day 1. Just watching for tornado’s until this tropical system moves out.
I should say certain BLM activists.
Only thing I have done was order me a 1000 rounds of 5.56 ammo.
Try –
No, working out and getting ready to go out and enjoy the beautiful day outside. I’ll tell ya, I had a conversation with my cousin’s daughter on FB about the George Floyd ramifications such as the protests and looters etc. I know this girl’s heart is in the right place but I see that some young people are even more close minded than they think us older people are. I was very respectful and like on here, admitted that Trump handled the whole situation poorly, often being antagonistic rather than sympathetic. She claims that he verbatim said protesters will be shot. I know he said when the looting starts the shooting starts. She’s about 20 and a Junior in school at Xavier in Cincy. Anyway, the conversation led to it’s not up to me to decide how black people protest, if they want to loot and destroy things, that’s up to them, I have no right to decide what they can and cannot do as a privileged white man. I went further in to discussing community policing and creating programs in inner cities to incentivize black men to become cops and work in their own communities. Inner cities where blacks are killing more blacks and of course some other races too. I said that stems partly from a lack of leadership in the household because many are growing up with one parent. She told me that was stereotyping and racist. Ugh! She was so mad, and I was so mad due to her lack of knowledge on the situation and her complete close mindedness. Communication goes nowhere when people only listen to what they want to hear. This will continue to be a barrier as this world tries to change, and it DOES need to change, but it ain’t gonna be easy!
No, I’ve had a similar situation with a younger person- so full of themselves and not able to conceptualize that they know so little because they’ve experienced so little…
I was just thinking about this place.. I think a first timer to this blog would read, at any given time, that one “side” of the political spectrum is completely responsible for all issues while the other “side” is the only hope of fixing said issues. I find it funny that anybody sees any of this as anything other than two sides of the same coin, setup by the two sides for their own benefit. And the labels- just laughable. Because I don’t give a shit about abortion, someone would see that and make up their mind that I’m a “liberal”, which of course is funny to me because I’m also pro military, pro small government, pro fiscal responsibility.. Sometimes I can’t be here when the cartoon characters show up…
Ah the smell of CNN in the morning!
Does it matter who makes the shit sandwich everyone is getting forced to eat???
The good thing is I have decided I don’t give a fuck what anyone does!
So apparently it’s not impossible to guard Mike. lol
It would seem he had some success? 😉
Yeah! #canguardmike
Piggy – I despise pistachio ice cream. That would infuriate me
Now I know what to get you next time you eat pork
You better get over here fast bro, this morning was wakey wakey eggs and bacey!
The semantics of the left, trying to use protesters, to validate the looting and rioting. I’ve seen enough people that act like they’re protesting, take part in the rioting.
A crowd at the white house that has pushed forward through barriers are no longer just protesters. These same innocent people, as some say, were throwing bricks and frozen water bottles and had metal pipes and other weapons hidden along the route.
As unbelievable as it seems to some the police and president are allowed to protect themselves.
When did it become Ok to be lawless?
Yeah, that’s when it gets murky. Some people believe that whatever these people need to do get out their frustrations is OK, because they’ve been oppressed. I can only imagine how those people would feel if THEIR house got burnt down, or if THEIR business got looted and destroyed. It’s all good as long as it’s happening to someone else. They say lives are more important than property which is a fucking idiotic argument. You can destroy someones lives by destroying their property.
Look no further than the names of the activist groups created by the left, Antifa (a fascist group created to cause divide), BLM (black lives matter only when killed by whites). Why isn’t BLM outraged by the killing of the black cop killed in the riots or black people killed by other blacks in Chicago?
I am 100% for police reform, but it must not become a political circus. This should be one issue that can be resolved with non-partisan support.
To start, the DOJ, needs to do a better job of over seeing some of the events that have traditionally been swept under the rug. I would think we’d need some type of DOJ/Local police liaison committee.
Problems in America are always political and never just deal with the issue at hand. This one needs to be different.
Steve – I’m not calling you out, but the way George Floyd was killed is really the issue. If he had a gun and was firing at police and he was taken out, no one would be going crazy. He forged a check for $20 and then was slowly killed by a racist cop who had too many previous incidents to even keep his badge, In addition, 3 other cops just stood by and allowed it to happen. I understand they were younger, one or two were rookies, but even so, they watched knowing what was going to happen or at least what could happen without saying one word. That’s the issue at hand. It’s not just white cops killing black people.
I kinda feel the one cop who tried to intervene, the rookie, kinda got boned in this whole thing. I think his ruling is wrong while I pretty much agree with the others. When most were saying third I felt like they had enough for second in the first place, so I’m not really shocked by any of it, but I do think the one guy is catching a harsher sentence than he should. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is found innocent of the charged if he can get anything close to a fair trial.
Mike,
I’ve thought about what you’ve written, and I just can’t get behind what you’re saying. I know it’s opinion, and you are only saying what you feel. And I know it comes from a good place, but you are wrong, simple as that. Pistachio ice cream is yummy.
Fuck yes it is, in any brand you can find it.
every local politician that VOTES for this (or voices approval for this) opens themselves up to a recall process that will more than likely get their retarded asses thrown out of office …… or will be the start of the end of law and order.
Classy:
https://apple.news/AFUkgQNLMTD-1UO1ftFuRuA
They are everywhere
Lol at any govt that values the 1st amendment. The hypocrisy of the left always comes in loud and clear. They would rewrite the Constitution in a heartbeat, if they could.
The left only cares about the constitution when it applies to them. Do they care about the 1st Amendment, when conservative speakers are trying to speak at universities?
Did they care about due process for Cavanaugh and Trump? But they do for Biden.
The left uses identity politics to act like they care about people who reside in this country, or at least those they’ve identified, but we know that’s a big lie, they only care about power and wealth.
They show this over and over. When tax reform was put in they bitch about it not being permanent for the people, yet they voted it down. These left backed riots and looting. Their campaign to destroy monuments. The crap they try to pass through on stimulus, delaying money…
I do however think there are a lot of good hearted people who identify as dems, none of which are politicians.
Please stop with the partisan politics Steve. Your bias will not allow constructive discussion so just stop or take it over to the Brietbart blog. You cast aspersions on Dems and Libs that are Con talking points and propaganda. Left backed riots? “THey” only care about power and wealth? The same can be said about Cons so please take this BS argument to your Brietbart blog.
thanks.
If you really wanted me to stop, you should’ve stopped at stop, but…
Omar with his typical Debbie Downer view on things here, but he has valid points.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-dolphins-2019-rookies-kelly-column-20200607-qrnskivdtze2dpxqejhf63ibam-story.html
It is hard to praise a rookie class when the group’s top performers were two undrafted players.
The fact that Preston Williams and Nik Needham shined just as much as first-round pick Christian Wilkins last year, and outperformed the rest of the Miami Dolphins’ disappointing draft class, indicates how much improvement is needed from these youngsters in Year 2.
Besides Wilkens and maybe Deiter, we really didn’t have much of a draft class. The intent was to gear up for the future. Omar wouldn’t know what a plan was, if it bit him in the ass.
Offensive guard Michael Deiter (third-round pick): The Dolphins possessed one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL last year, and arguably one of the worst in franchise history. Deiter started 15 of 16 games on that line last season. Deiter allowed six sacks, which tied him for second most in the NFL among guards, and he wasn’t much help when it came to run blocking. There’s hope that he’ll take a major step forward in his second season, but the additions of Ereck Flowers, and rookies Robert Hunt and Solomon Kindley will make it a challenge for him to remain a starter
Linebacker Andrew Van Ginkel (fifth-round pick): The former Wisconsin standout only played in six games (with one start) last season because of a foot injury that forced him to start the season on injured reserve. When he was cleared to play, Van Ginkel made minimal impact on defense, contributing 15 tackles (four for loss), one sack, four quarterback hits, and forced one fumble. Where he fits in moving forward depends on what role he can carve out for himself in Miami’s hybrid defense. He’ll likely compete with Vince Beigel to be the blitzing linebacker in Miami’s pressure packages.
Fullback Chandler Cox (seventh-round pick): Cox played sparingly as a rookie, primarily contributing on special teams despite making three starts. He didn’t get a single carry in the running game, or catch a single pass in 2019. But a lot of the blame for his lack of involvement can be placed on the offense. It will be interesting to see how Cox’s game, and the fullback role evolves in new coordinator Chan Gailey’s offense. However, Cox’s roster spot isn’t guaranteed because linebacker Elandon Roberts and Wilkins can fill the fullback role based on their past experiences playing that position.
I don’t see a need to carry an FB, for the others it’s tough enough to be a 2nd or 3rd day selection and make a contribution your rookie year, let alone on that team we had the first 7 weeks.
Omar hasn’t figured out the difference between non-homerism and just reporting a semi-positive vibe. In other words he thinks he’s better than everyone else, because some former NFLer once took him under their wing.
Kong – Typical liberal view! Everyone on the right (in the right) knows pistachio ice cream is no good. Left propaganda!
https://twitter.com/DolphinsPFN/status/1269964454692818944?s=20
Irony??
Don’t spew your rhetoric on here!
Because, listen to my rhetoric!
😉
Lol
Except there is only one side of Rhetoric being spewed here.
In honor of the all mighty Pig, I won’t respond🐷
You guys can post whatever you want
But every once in a while, let’s all try to take a break and step back so we can get to football
These are heated days and the things to comment on don’t end so so…
Also Free Pistachio!
I agree
Ewwwwwww!
Pistachio muffin
For those of you that have had too much ice cream during the Pandemic!
Her name is Pistachio
The new defunded pistachio police
here is a football question I stole from “the Big O”
Which dolphins player is the biggest sleeper going into this season?
I’m gonna go with Isaiah Ford.
He only got 35 targets last season, but I feel like he will take better advantage of his opportunities this season. I’m not saying he is going to beat out Williams or Parker in the stat columns but I think he will step up this year and “be noticed”.
He’s too far down the depth chart to have much of a chance, he’ll likely need injuries to get that chance.
I like Ford, but he’s JAG, similar to Hurns.
What I plan to wear to my Skype Court Conference
Top it off with a big powdered wig. Should really set off the outfit.