2021 Position outlook – OL

Our offensive line going forward, assuming there are no cuts or trades sets up relatively economically. The highest paid lineman is last years big FA acquisition, LG Ereck Flowers. As expected, he was somewhat overpaid as free agent pickups usually are. I thought Flowers played well, especially in the run game, he is a mover, often getting the best of his man and getting a good push downfield. The big question will be who plays center in 2021. Ted Karras was signed to a 1YR deal last season and is an UFA. Third year OG/C Michael Deiter played 2% of the snaps and played in all 16 games as a ST’s player and backup. He did play most of the backup snaps at C. It’s possible he’s the answer at center next season or perhaps we acquire a center in the draft. Deiter did play 93% of the snaps in 2019 at LG The Dolphins got a first hand look at the Senior Bowl at 2 potential draftees in Oklahomah’s Creed Humphrey and Wisconsin-Whitewater’s Quinn Meinerz. Humphrey could be one of the earlier centers off the board, probably not until RD2-RD3 while Meinerz would be a later pick. It’s also possible Ted Karras gets re-signed.

1st RD draft (#18) started 12 games and played in 13 games missing a couple due to injury. He was acceptable, not dominant in any way, but consider he had just turned 21 and has a lot of growing to do. I think he clearly has his best football ahead of him. A full offseason of working out and training camp will have him in better shape to start the season. The other 2 draftees that played a good amount of the time on the O-line were 4th RD pick Solomon Kindley who played 70% of the snaps at both RG and then LG when Ereck Flowers was injured. Robert Hunt (2nd RD) played RT and played 68% of the snaps. Both of these guys are veritable mountains. Kindley did have trouble pulling which is expected from such a large man (6’3 340). Hunt while not as heavy as Kindley is still a big man at 6’5 330. Those 2 guys provided some nice run blocking when they were both on the right side.I’d say they were adequate at pass blocking. I never felt like the O-line was a sieve as I have felt in many years watching this team play.

My preference would be to draft a center, and he would compete with Michael Deiter for the starting job. The aforementioned Creed Humphrey could be one the first centers off the board. Other top center prospects are Alabama’s Landon Dickerson, Ohio State’s Josh Myers along with Trey Hill from Georgia. If T Penei Sewell is available at our pick, and he should be at #3 if we stay there, he’d be an upgrade over Austin Jackson or Robert Hunt but I don’t think we go that way. Weapons for Tua come in different packages and top OT to protect him wouldn’t be a bad thing but my feeling is we’ll continue to let young Austin Jackson develop at LT and go forward with big Robert Hunt at RT. I think we’ll be looking for playmakers for Tua with our first pick whether at #3 or later. Think Ja’Marr Chase or DeVonta Smith.

GO DOLPHINS 2021!!!

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  1. wyoming85 says:

    I don’t understand all the Facebook posts?
    I use facebook to see Pictures of all my friends and family eating lunch.
    The “blocked” button discourages the posts I don’t want to see!

    Works the same on Twitter

    Hell I come if I want to here a bunch of whining! 😉

  2. mf13ss says:

    I realize a lot of people (not just here, but Phins fans on social media) want us to draft Landon Dickerson, C, Alabama. I’m sorry, but his injury history is bloody fugly. I wouldn’t touch him unless he falls to the 4th or 5th round.

    • mf13ss says:

      I’d just re-sign Mongo’s great nephew, Ted Karras. Who knows… perhaps Landon Dickerson actually falls into our laps in the 4th or 5th round, where he’d be a far safer pick.

      • mf13ss says:

        Season ending health issues for Landon Dickerson:
        2016: 6 games + ACL injury
        2017: 4 games + ankle surgery
        2018 (RS): 2 games + ankle injuries
        2019: Healthy
        2020: Knee ligament

        Only ONE year of health over the last 5 years doesn’t scream reliable… and people bitch about DeVante’s health. Know what I’m sayin’?

  3. The Flying Pig says:

    The streaker at the super bowl last night bet 50k that there would be at least one streaker at the super bowl

    And he made 375k on the bet

    And got out of jail for 1k

    So he made 374k for that

  4. i made a years salary in the last 24 hours on BTC< Doge coin, and Ocugen, and some other outperformers, the markets are on steroids!
    Ocugen was the number one gainer in the nation today, 248 percent, and for the last week almost 800 percent !
    i had OCGN as a penny stock, 2000 shares at 20 cents, and it it passed $18 today

    Ocugen has a new vaccine that doesnt need refrigeration, and works against the UK variant.

    totally blowing away moderna and pfizer, both expensive stocks that are ok, but not top performer in the nation like Ocugen

  5. mf13ss says:

    I DO believe that Penei’s stock rose with us after the smoke cleared from last night’s Super Bowl. If we really do like him, we’d have to take him @ R1P3. Most of me wants to trade down and get an additional 1st rounder next year, and surround Tua with weapons instead.

    However, I think Penei is certainly on our radar now, more than ever before last night. As I stated a few weeks ago… YES, Penei has played RT in the past. That muscle memory is likely still there, so moving him to RT to protect Tua is in play, as far as I’m concerned.

  6. mf13ss says:

    Michael Deiter… it’s time for his balls to drop. As a day 2 pick in ’19 out of Wisconsin, this guy had better get his $#!t together. He was supposed to be a starting Guard for us, but he’s slumped to the tune of our backup Center.

    T’will be interesting to see what we think of him in the 2021 Draft.

  7. CavalierKong says:

  8. yes Piggy, have to pay federal taxes on gains this year, next year

    but im in FL , no state income tax

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I mean at the end of the day you have to pay taxes on any profit whether it’s stocks or not, so I guess if stocks are you thing – why not

      I personally don’t love the stock market but if that’s for you – go for it

      I just thought for a minute you meant there was a way not to pay taxes on Income…

  9. Piggy , $OCGN has a $60 price target , its still undervalued, and has plenty of rise left if You are interested

  10. Krishna says:

    There is difference between unrealized gains and losses (some say these are profits) which is the difference between cost and market value, and realized gains and losses upon selling debt or equity securities which becomes taxable short or long-term capital gains.

    You don’t avoid taxes unless you’re cheating. Legitimate deductions can help reduce taxable income or lower your tax liability.

    Language makes a difference. Tax avoidance is frowned on by the IRS.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Exactly. Stocks don’t become taxable until you sell. And when you sell (long-term/short-term) impacts the tax rate.

  11. Mike E. says:

    M – It’s funny that you say Penei Sewell has become a bigger target on our radar because I’ve been seeing that all over twitter. Question, do you think Grier and Flores needed the SB game with the Chiefs being undermanned on the O-line to know the value of having a competent O-line with depth? If we take Sewell, it had nothing to do with the SB and everything to do with he’s a great player. If we don’t take Sewell, do you think they just don’t get it, or do you think they just feel confident in what we already have? What I’m saying is, the SB affirmed what can happen you lose valuable depth for a unit. If they had their 2 tackles healthy but lost Tyreek Hill and Mecole Hardman or Demarcus Robinson they would have also been in trouble. Tough to overcome stuff like that.

  12. sb7mvp says:

    Kansas City didn’t lose because they couldn’t protect Mahomes. They lost because they didn’t bother adjusting their offensive plan nor did they commit to establishing the run game. That and the defense couldn’t stop getting flagged for holding and interference. When they did find something that worked, they went away from it quickly and back to the same crap that wasn’t working.

  13. krishna, i pay my taxes every year, are u with the irs? lol

    its ok, no need to cheat the tax man, its a bill like any other IMO

    • the key is to make enough money so u can afford to pay them

      i could push shopping carts at publix and have to pay taxes too, but theres no money in that,
      if u work at publix, u cant afford ANYTHING, let alone taxes

  14. i do know that a stimulous credit can be applied to the 2020 returns,

    but i havent filed taxes yet and not sure what line its on . ill find it

    • Technically, stimulus payments are an advance on a tax credit for the 2020 tax year. The IRS calls this credit the Recovery Rebate Credit. Unlike a tax deduction, which reduces your taxable income (and therefore your tax payment), a tax credit reduces the amount of tax you owe, dollar for dollar. Even better, and unlike most credits, the Recovery Rebate Credit will give you money back even if it’s more than the tax you owe or paid. For example, if you owe $700 in federal income taxes for 2020, a $1,200 stimulus tax credit would net you a $500 tax refund.

      You need to file federal tax form 1040 or 1040-SR for 2020 to claim your Recovery Rebate Credit. You’ll also need your IRS Notice 1444, the letter the IRS should have sent to you a few days after you got your first stimulus check, and IRS Notice 1444-B, which you would have gotten after your second stimulus check. If you didn’t get a stimulus check, you don’t need either notice.

  15. steveccnv says:

    SMH, you haven’t made anything in the stock market until you take it out, I believe was the point.

    • his point does NOT apply to my portfolio, because i sell some DAILY
      and its none of Your business when i sell or buy

      come talk to me When you know how to make 800 percent in 3 months, and put 6 figures in the bank too

      • steveccnv says:

        Nobody believes this bs you spew here. You can’t even follow the conversation here most of the time and you expect us to believe you’re some stock market guru?

        Those that can, just do and others tell them how great they are, those that can’t have to tell everyone how great they are.

  16. steveccnv says:

    The SB was the perfect storm for Brady. It was played in their home stadium, the Chiefs for some stupid reason didn’t get there until Saturday, then the storm over night furthered their jetlag, 2 tackles out for KC, def holding loosened up the KC secondary enough to give Brady enough room to do what he wanted, Reid was atrocious in clock management, Mahomes leg injury didn’t allow him to avoid rush, the KC receives seemed uninterested or unfocused…

    • the missing OL were key, because Mahomes is one of the best at getting off a pass in the face of a rush, and a few times he was almost horizontal and made a pass

      of course, these passes wont be accurate, the man needed more time IMO

  17. didnt mean to sound blunt with ya Steve, but i dont take advice from anyone, unless they have an outstanding portfolio to show , for a minimum of 3 years, preferably 5

    then i want to pick their brains, lol

  18. wyoming85 says:

    RIP

  19. son of a son of a shula says:

    Billy Brown the dad on Alaskan Bush People dead at 68, RIP

  20. Mike E. says:

    Marty was a great regular season coach. Just couldn’t get over the post-season hump

  21. Mary Wilson, founding member of the Supremes, passed today too

  22. steveccnv says:
    February 9, 2021 at 10:39 am
    Nobody believes this bs you spew here. You can’t even follow the conversation here most of the time and you expect us to believe you’re some stock market guru?

    Those that can, just do and others tell them how great they are, those that can’t have to tell everyone how great they are.

    ____________ \
    this coming from the same idiot that claimed trump would win the election? lol

    i dont care if you dont believe the market is going up, or dont care if you dont think im an expert, the money going into my account is all the same, and i have the receipts, YOU< do not,

    im ONLY reminding you that you were wrong, and Biden did NOT tank the markets, lol
    markets are EXPLODING< and its NOT because of the orange blowhard that got fired

    it seems like You have been proven wrong, whereas i have been proven right.

    Biden IS the president, and the markets are loving it
    and im making serious bank from it, MUCH to your dismay
    i was right, You were NOT

    if you were a smart man, you would STOP whining over the lost election, and start making some big money, the opportunity is for all that take advantage of it, good luck

  23. D says:

    Dang, Marty Schottenheimer died

  24. stangerx says:

    Superbowl teams that didn’t score a TD in the Big Show.

    ’71 Dolphins
    ’18 Rams
    ’21 Chiefs

  25. stangerx says:

    Least 25-1 is above average in a 32 team league.
    ———————————————
    Here are the current odds for Super Bowl LVI at BetMGM:

    Chiefs +600
    Packers +900
    Buccaneers +1000 (was +1200)
    Ravens +1200
    Bills +1200
    Rams +1200 (was +2000)
    49ers +1600 (was +1400)
    Saints +1800
    Seahawks +2200 (was +1800)
    Browns +2500
    Cowboys +2500
    Colts +2500
    Dolphins +2500
    Titans +2500
    Chargers +3000
    Patriots +3000
    Steelers +3000

  26. CavalierKong says:

    Mahomes was pressured a SB record 29 of 56 dropbacks. That is an insane 52%pressure rate. And to do that blitzing only 5 times…

    It’s a good point about adjustments. We talked about it in the 2nd half, why didn’t the Chiefs try some max protect, 2 man routes, or maybe running the ball.

    I think the Chiefs aren’t used to making major adjustments to make their offense work. They have a gameplan and stick to it, just probing weakness in the defense and tweaking some things. It’s usually the other team that has to try to adjust to what the Chiefs are doing.

    This is the same team that was down double digits in every playoff game last year and ended up easily winning most of those games. I think they just expected their offense to kick it into gear, and it never did, because Mahomes had no chance back there.

    • Mike E. says:

      The Chiefs defense didn’t show up either. They helped some in those comebacks last year, they were awful on Sunday

      • CavalierKong says:

        Another good point. They are a defense that always plays surprisingly well in the playoffs, but not in this game. They had a number of bad penalties and got beat up and down the field. That TD at the end of the half was a real killer, their coach didn’t help them out there, but that bad long penalty was what set it up.

        Like Tim said above, it was all those things that got ’em beat.

    • steveccnv says:

      And they wonder why their OC isn’t getting an HC job

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I think you have to look at Bienienemy’s body of work which I pretty good

        The chiefs were really really bad on Sunday

      • bookman11 says:

        Steve,
        Do you mean that teams could see this before this game, because the jobs that he was passed up on were filled before this game even took place.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I remember watching Mahomes and thinking he was Frank Tarkenton

      The chiefs really struggled to protect Mahomes

  27. CavalierKong says:

    Chiefs used 5 man protection on 92% of dropbacks. What is the conventional definition of insanity again? lol

  28. ocalarob says:

    Free agency Mar 17th Fins 28million in cap space

    who do we make a move on?

    Curtis Samuel?…only 24 years old with a lot of experience. Golladay another wr injury prone. wr allen robinson??

    GB RB Jones is a FA, will be expensive. not sure we’ve had luck with getting vet RBs.

    C GB, Linsley, best center on the market, what will they do with Karrass? Guards Joe Thuney??/ Scherff??? OT Moton?? Trent Williams 32 years old, kinda old but he’s the best.

    DE/DT Giants Williams, they might get this guy as Flores emphasizes his D.

  29. The Flying Pig says:

  30. Mike E. says:

    Piggy, that’s funny as fuck!

  31. Mike E. says:

    Rock – The book got really good! I’m glad because I was beginning to think it was a dud. I’m in the 180’s and I didn’t want to put it down during lunch. Sign of a good book!

  32. stangerx says:

  33. Rockphin says:

    MikeE good to hear! I will queue it up next for when I get through WOT. (actually I will queue up book one, but you know) I am in the worst part of WOT right now (IMO) the rebel Aes Sadai are camped across the river from Tar Valon and Egwene has been captured. There is WAAAAYYYY too many scenes with the different factions of the ajahs and the forsaken and everybody is whinging blah blah blah Every character in the first half of this book (figuratively) could be edited out.

    • CavalierKong says:

      If Egwene has been captured, at least you’re getting into Sanderson now and are past the worst part of Jordan’s writing which was the writing of the women characters his last few years.

      The last couple of books Jordan himself wrote, the women are horribly petty and communicate almost entirely in sniffs and harrumphs. Between the Aes Sedai, the Kin, the Windfinders, and the Wise Ones, it almost drives me mad trudging through the constant, deafening cacophony of sniffs and harrumphs.

      Amazing series I’ve read over and over, but good grief, lol

  34. mf13ss says:

    Mike E. says:
    February 9, 2021 at 6:36 am
    M – It’s funny that you say Penei Sewell has become a bigger target on our radar because I’ve been seeing that all over twitter. Question, do you think Grier and Flores needed the SB game with the Chiefs being undermanned on the O-line to know the value of having a competent O-line with depth? If we take Sewell, it had nothing to do with the SB and everything to do with he’s a great player. If we don’t take Sewell, do you think they just don’t get it, or do you think they just feel confident in what we already have? What I’m saying is, the SB affirmed what can happen you lose valuable depth for a unit. If they had their 2 tackles healthy but lost Tyreek Hill and Mecole Hardman or Demarcus Robinson they would have also been in trouble. Tough to overcome stuff like that.
    ———————–
    Allow me to reframe my point (no I’m not lobbying for anything, at least not yet)…

    YES, the Super Bowl opened the eyes of everybody that if your O-Line is not adequate, you’re going to have problems. Yes, if you’re missing your two starting Tackles, you’re going to have problems. Yes, many Phins fans immediately thought of Penei as KC was getting their azzes kicked.

    Now, let’s look at it like this… would Penei — supposedly a generational talent at the Tackle position — be a SIGNIFICANT upgrade over Robert Hunt or Austin Jackson? If the answer is yes, he’s worth his weight in gold. Are Robert Hunt and Austin Jackson slouches? I don’t believe so (and they are only going to get better!), but God forbid we lose a Tackle (or TWO!) as KC had, we now have significant depth to replace the starter in either Hunt or Jackson. And I cannot understate the importance of positional versatility.

    I think many Phin fans had a knee-jerk reaction to KC’s O-Line demise in the Super Bowl, without really thinking about who, what, where, when, and why: “Oh, we need Penei now to stop Tampa Bay’s pass-rush!”. They are right, but for all the wrong reasons.

    As we all saw, significant depth is most important on the O-Line on any team… where you most assuredly are going to lose somebody over the course of a season.

    So the question becomes… are we truly satisfied with our O-Line depth and quality of our current starters? My answer is: we want the ball to be out in 2.x seconds, so I’m not all about building a WALL around Tua. But dammit, we lose 1 guy on the O-Line, and all hell breaks loose (same as any other team).

    Do we want to be ahead of the curve and make an ELITE O-Line with depth… or do we surround Tua with weapons (and possibly trade down from R1P3 for more/future picks) instead?

    Like most, I’d prefer the latter… but there’s nothing wrong with the former, either. I’m just trying to keep an open mind, man. Cheers!

    • Tim Knight says:

      My reaction was more tongue and cheek. But it does show you that talent and quality depth on the OL is very important because we’ve seen what can happen to really good offenses when they can’t block their plays, even with great QBs.

      • mf13ss says:

        Too right, Tim. If a team’s depth in the trenches (either side) is lacking, that team’s season inevitably falls apart. We’ve seen it over-and-over-and-over again. It’s ‘Football 101’ at this point.

        Years ago, I used to SMH at you when you wanted to continue to beef up our trenches… I get it now. There’s overkill (you never advocated for overkill), but then there’s wisdom. I cannot rule Penei out totally, though I’d like to… for shiny new toys for Tua to play with. But if Penei is THAT GOOD, we’d be fools to write him off altogether.

  35. mf13ss says:

    Bucky Brooks’ first mock draft (1st round) of the season. I don’t dislike it, either. No tradedowns in these mocks, just so it’s known…

  36. Tim Knight says:

    M13, the one thing about playmakers is we see over and over you can find special WRs and RBs outside of the 1st round. Special lineman go early and we all know that.

    • mf13ss says:

      Damn right, and that was a staple of the Kubiak/Gibbs scheme of the Denver Broncos, and then onto the Houston Texans. They made it so that MANY UDFA RBs would perennially go over 1,000 yards rushing.

      Special lineman make playmakers out of many.

      • mf13ss says:

        And on the other side of the ball, the G-Men ran the “NASCAR” Defense… something that beat the Tom Lady*-led Patsies* not once, but twice in the Super Bowl. Gotta have the special linemen, who make playmakers out of many.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yep and yep!

  37. mf13ss says:

    Tim,

    What do you make of a DT who goes 6’2″, 320, and can run a 4.87 40-time? He’s solid at stuffing the run, and has emerged as a pass-rushing ‘shoot-the-gap’ type of DT.

    Can’t wait to see his Pro Day, and I mocked him to us about a month ago. His name is Alim McNeill, DT, NCST. I don’t want to overdraft him, but that ceiling is HIGH.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Some guys are just really good football players. We like to run multiple so just add good football players. That’s what Grier and Flores are all about. Players who show up on film, love football and are selfless. It’s important to them. That’s how you win.

  38. Tim Knight says:

    M13, another thing is hopefully we won’t be drafting at #3 for quite awhile so we must take advantage of that.

    • mf13ss says:

      Ah! But that’s where I’ve a plan. I’d LIKE to trade down from R1P3, and acquire a future first-rounder (maybe just a future second-rounder) in the process. I feel we have the ability to kick the can down the road, and continue to acquire early future talent for a few years, at least.

      • mf13ss says:

        And THAT is my issue… continue to run the ‘cash cow’ (reaping more milk by trading down), vs taking a generational BPA. I’m currently stuck!

      • Tim Knight says:

        That’s very possible but if we stay at #3 we need to land a franchise type player. Obviously Grier and Flores are going to make those decisions and our opinions don’t mean much, but just add special.

  39. mf13ss says:

    I LOVE this song! The instrumental is fabulous, and something I’d do. Funky bass line, nice drum track, STRINGS (that’s me!), and just a smooth groove…

    • mf13ss says:

      Yes, there IS a disco groove to this. LOL

    • Tim Knight says:

      Interesting you posted this band. It was many years ago when I was 17-18 years old but my guitar teacher at the time was either a fan of ABC or he played bass on some of their songs as a studio musician because he did that too. But ABC really rang a bell for me. He could play anything – guitar, bass, drums and keys. But bass was his specialty. Super talented guy.

      • mf13ss says:

        My guy from Cali who used my studio to produce his album introduced me to ABC. After listening to some of my music, he said that I’d like ABC… he was right.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Cool! You really brought me back many years. ABC jumped out at me. Back when he (Neil) was a studio musician mostly in NYC but I know he also did stuff in Europe, they got paid for sessions with no credits. They were hired hands because the guys in the band couldn’t play the parts. That was quite common like when Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin was a studio musician in the mid 60’s. He played parts on The Who, The Rolling Stones, The Kinks and many other artists including Joe Cocker where he did get credits.

  40. olddolphan says:

    AFTER FALLING BEHIND QUICKLY TONIGHT, the Tampa Bay Lightning ripped THREE quick goals past a befuddled Nashville goalie and, just like that, the BOLTS are up 3-1 end of period one in Tennessee. Last night, the Lightning beat the Predators 4-1 with their BACK-up goalie (Curtis Mcilhenny in for Vasilevskiy). A win tonight will leave Tampa Bay at 9-1-1, all this WITHOUT their best player (Kucherov) who lead the league in scoring two seasons ago. “KOOCH” had off-season hip surgery and hopes to be back for the playoffs. Adding him to this high scoring offense almost seems unfair to the rest of the league!!
    ————-
    Me and my wife’s recent fights with the corona virus have distracted us from the sporting world a bit. But the Buccaneers’ blowout win in the Super Bowl brought back into focus the unbelievable run this area has had recently in the pro sports world. The Rays won the American League pennant. Then the BOLTS rolled Dallas for the Stanley Cup. The Bucs crushing of Kansas City was the topper as all the big time lights were focused on Tampa Bay. But is winning the Super Bowl the ultimate for this area?

    I don’t think so. For me, winning back-to-back Stanley Cups would be the numero uno achievement!! Yes, I know, the Lightning are a LONG WAY from achieving that goal. But, eleven games into a 56 game season, this Bolts team looks UNBELIEVABLE, with quality depth at almost every position!!!

    Well, gotta walk the greyhound and get my beauty rest!! You guys have a great evening and a better tomorrow!

    • steveccnv says:

      I watched the last 2 Lightning games, the 4-1 game a couple of nights ago was much closer, than the score shows, since they had 2 open net goals at the end, but the passing by Stamkos and others was phenomenal last night leading to open goals.

      Last year when Stamkos was out you said he was their best player. After watching both play I believe Stamkos is their top player, but both are great.

      The last 4 championships have been decided by 2 cities, LA and Tampa. My Dodgers and Lakers finally got one.

      VGK hanging right there with the Lighting at 8-1-1 after an odd game last. Leading 3-0 and 4-1, then got a late goal by a defenseman to pull it out 5-4. Hope to see both in the finals.

  41. Mike E. says:

    M – That’s the stuff that WLIR in Long Island starting playing in the late 70’s, early 80’s. They basically brought that music to the USA. Great documentary if you’re interested called “Dare to be Different”. It used to be on Showtime but you can probably find it elsewhere. My wife and were really into all that music in the 80’s, so many groups from the UK, Australia, all over Europe. Check it out if you can.

    • steveccnv says:

      The one I just read had us at 10, KC 1, and NOLA in the bottom 3rd.

      I agree with the Saints being bottom 3rd as they’re in cap hell and all signs point to Brees being gone.

  42. ocalarob says:

    After receiving 4 mail in TD ballots last night at 4am, The KC chiefs are now the superbowl champs,
    Tom Brady has hired Rudy to go to the supreme crt, he’s devastated!

  43. Rockphin says:

    CavalierKong says:
    February 9, 2021 at 6:57 pm
    If Egwene has been captured, at least you’re getting into Sanderson now and are past the worst part of Jordan’s writing which was the writing of the women characters his last few years…..
    ………. it almost drives me mad trudging through the constant, deafening cacophony of sniffs and harrumphs.

    You get it! It is a chore to read it. Half of the characters could be left out and not detract from the overall story line.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      It’s why I could never read the series again. I never could decided if Jordan hated women, was submissive, or had an Oedipus complex.

  44. stangerx says:

    Social media went into a frenzy after the Superbowl cause CBS didn’t show the Gatoraid shower. Not cause a tradition was missed but cause of all the people who laid prop bets on what color it would be.

    Winning color was blue…. paid out at 8-1.

  45. ocalarob says:

    Those gas pump prices are creeping up faster than Joe Biden on a twelve year old!

  46. CavalierKong says:

    NFL 2021 Important Dates

    Feb. 23: The earliest day teams can place franchise or transition designations on players in advance of free agency.

    March 9: The deadline for franchise and transition tag use is 4 p.m. ET.

    March 15-17: Legal tampering window commences.

    March 17: The 2021 league year officially kicks off at 4 p.m. ET, and so does the start of free agency.

    April 5: This should mark the date when teams that have hired new head coaches can begin offseason workout programs. However, COVID protocol will likely affect these arrangements. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell indicated last week leading up to the Super Bowl that the NFL and NFL Players Association could agree to modified offseason program formats. Last season, teams held virtual workouts rather than in-person conditioning programs. People familiar with preliminary discussions expect the same this time around.

    April 19: Teams with returning head coaches can begin offseason workouts. But again, these workouts are likely to take place virtually.

    April 23: The deadline for restricted free agents to sign offer streets.

    April 28: The last day for clubs to match offer sheets for restricted free agents.

    April 29-May 1: The 2021 NFL draft is slated for Cleveland.

  47. Mike E. says:

    Isn’t legal tampering like an oxymoron?

  48. Tim Knight says:

    BBM, that’s messed up with your brother-in-law. Yikes!

  49. Krishna says:

    Oh my. How did we go from oxymorons to meth and heroine addicts?

  50. The Flying Pig says:

    Avocado tequila sounds amazing

  51. ocalarob says:

    To all you Lawyers.
    I have a client who came to me in peril, she contracted with this res contractor to build homes, she got a bank loan and gave him the drafts, she paid in full and the contractor hasn’t been back to the home since may 2020, other trades pulled permits such as the plumber and the electrician. they are not finished, The plumber has been paid in full and has not finished because the Res Contr owes him 18k on other jobs. meanwhile the victim has no way out of this, her new home just sits there.
    I am a Lic General Contractor in the state of FL, she wants me to pull additional permits to take over the job and finish, however I fear that in doing so i have to warranty this other guys work which is out of the question.

    I was just wondering how i get around this dilemma so i can help this woman.

    • Krishna says:

      Give her oxy…

    • Krishna says:

      I think that’s lame asking for free legal advice. Seriously?!

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I’m sure she can sue for breach of contract and have the contract with the original invalidated and start all over

      And probably get any money invested back as part of the same suit

      It really depends on the language of the contract, there might be state and local laws relevant that the contractor breached too

      There’s usually a lot of relief available when some one doesn’t perform under a contract

      But she should hire a local attorney to look at the contract she signed to look at the relief

  52. Randy says:

    My senior project in college was testing the addictive properties of nicotine. I shot up a bunch of rats with pure nicotine and ran them through a bunch of tests and kept track of their physical response and changes. Weeks of testing and watching rats run around and I showed no significant data. If vaping had been a thing back in the mid ‘80s, I would’ve accidentally forgot I walked off with a few vials of the stuff. Maybe I could’ve sold it for a lot of money. Lol

  53. Rockphin says:

    Sigh, the historically low oil prices in April of this year (US Crude actually in the NEGATIVE price range) due to the price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia combined with the world wide drop in demand due to covid and the easing of that price war and the increase in demand has nothing to due with the still very low gas prices. It is all that damn communist’s fault. SMH Ignorance

  54. Krishna says:

    I don’t get it. You’re saying in your reasearch with rats, nicotine had no effect on their physiology? Or behavior? Wow? Not sure i can grok that.

  55. mf13ss says:

    Krishna says:
    February 10, 2021 at 8:04 pm
    Like i said, i was just trying to follow the humor and chain from oxymororn to drug addicts. LMAO…..Rush was a drug addict and people glommed onto his rhetoric as a drug addict. I know, too subtle for most.
    ——————-
    Please DO NOT make fun of people with drug/alcohol addiction. It’s not funny, it’s not cool, and it’s HELL for any/all who know somebody who’s gone through it. I know people (plural) who have died from addiction… NOT FUNNY.

    Refrain from being a fucking asshole, please.

  56. Krishna says:

    That’s funny. Make sure you give Biden all the credit too 3 weeks in. Lmao….

  57. Krishna says:

    Seriously? Lmao…. please. Your kidding me, right?

    • mf13ss says:

      Krishna, there needs to be balance. Some people get trapped into BS, especially the poor and disadvantaged. If you believe in what you preach, you need to be supportive in helping those who have addiction problems, sir.

      • Krishna says:

        You just want to fight. I would never put Rush, your hero, in that category. That’s why you missed the humor that Orob started.

      • mf13ss says:

        I want to fight? Uhhhhh… NO! I’m trying to tell ya that we need to reach balance. I don’t wish death on anybody, man.

        Just PLEASE don’t disrespect those who have or have had addiction problems.

  58. Krishna says:

    That’s for mf13 who can take a joke…lmfao!

  59. Krishna says:

    Cannot

  60. Tim Knight says:

    Wow shit is getting ornery here tonight.

  61. pheloniusphish says:

    I love this place.

  62. The Flying Pig says:

    There was nothing wrong with your posts Krishna

    I enjoy reading your posts

  63. Rockphin says:

    I AN OUTRAGED AT THE AMOUNT OF OUTRAGE HERE!

    lol

  64. wyoming85 says:

    The man who put the pictures on the pages we stuck together!

    RIP
    Larry Flint

  65. pheloniusphish says:

    Limbaugh is dying from advanced lung cancer. He can do do whatever oxy he wants.

  66. Krishna says:

    NO! FUCKING OUTRAGEOUS!

  67. mf13ss says:

    Faux outrage is contagious in today’s world… until it truly hits YOUR world. THEN, you wake up.

    Yeah, this place never ceases to amaze me!

    • Krishna says:

      Dude, your faux compassion is old.

      • mf13ss says:

        I don’t even know how to answer your reply, Krishna. If you truly think my compassion is faux and old, I don’t know what to tell you. If you are the judge and jury right now, then I guess I’m guilty without a trial.

        If I use the *force*, I’d ask you to put your drink down right now… you’ve been drinking too much, my friend.

  68. wyoming85 says:

    Seeing as Rush has stage 4 cancer. You won’t have to wish for his death much longer!

  69. Krishna says:

    Never wished your hero for death. Facts.

  70. Randy says:

    Krishna,
    My degree was in psychology and my studies were more focused on the psychological aspects, but I monitored their physical aspects of it too. My results showed no statistically significant impact over time in the things I measured. Sorry, but I tried to say what I did without going into a dissertation.
    ***
    There are definite physical responses to nicotine being introduced, but they disappeared fairly quickly after you stopped giving them the nicotine….physical addiction. The other tests I did that looked at the psychological impact or addiction during that period of “physical addiction” phase and how it changed after the detox process didn’t show anything statistically valid. That doesn’t mean there were none.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      So if you quit smoking
      And 10 years pass
      Does that mean you removed all the harm the nicotine caused?

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Psycho-pharmacology was one of my top two favorite courses.

    • Krishna says:

      Well rats are one thing. I have lived with several people, dad, wife, best friend who were all heavy smokers and the “changes” were real when they tried to stopped. One out of three did stop, 2 could not. Not sure where that fits in with your study.

      I think fot humans there is much more than the physical addiction.

  71. mf13ss says:

    pheloniusphish says:
    February 10, 2021 at 8:49 pm
    Wait…you think Krishna follows you on Twitter? C’mon man…does Krishna strike you as a Twitter user.
    —————–
    I didn’t even insinuate that Krishna follows me on Twitter, Phelon.

  72. mf13ss says:

    WOW!

    Sorry I interjected about a man on his deathbed in Rush Limbaugh, as he’s attacked for having been a pain-medicine addict in the far past. It’s kind of like impeaching a President who is no longer in office, just to pour salt in wounds.

    WOW!!!

    Let’s get back to football, instead of insulting people who are near death. Is that a reasonable request?

  73. CavalierKong says:

    What’s a good high end shooting tequila?

  74. mf13ss says:

    Phelon,

    Gun to your head, and we ARE selecting @ R1P3, who are you taking as of today?

  75. Tim Knight says:

    Social media has really had an affect on how people behave with each other. We’re in crazy times and most people seem to be on edge. It doesn’t have to be like that. Each individual can change that. It’s not society, we as individuals make society what it is. Not the other way around. People are born into shitty situations because of the actions of individuals. Change that for the better and you change society for the better. Be Kind. 🙂

  76. Krishna says:

    You’re hilarious. I just put my cat to sleep less than a month ago. He was my buddy.

    I also pulled the plug on my wife and ended her 5 year suffering.

    Oh my, let me send sincere condolences to your hero, a drug addict with all his excuses.

    Kinda like your excuses for Paterno. You’re something!

    • Krishna says:

      Clearly for mf13ss.

      • mf13ss says:

        To be honest with you, I NEVER liked Joe Paterno as a person. And the way he shied away from the entire Sandusky event, I disliked him even more.

        What’s MORE… I never ONCE defended Paterno. I don’t even know what you’re talking about. Perhaps you’re mistaking me for somebody else, but that’s not me.

        I KNOW/KNEW that Paterno was complicit (albeit passively) with Jerry Sandusky.

        Once again, you’re confusing me for somebody else.

      • Krishna says:

        I could be wrong about your position, mf13ss. Penn State should have received the “death” penalty, imo, for their lack of institutional control and protection of “our” children. You did not, as I recall. Correct?

  77. Randy says:

    piggy,
    Ok, so, what most people call physical addiction is actually physical dependence. “addiction” is usually more used to describe the psychological impact. Dependence is defined by certain physical changes and then the withdrawal symptoms related with it.
    ***
    Physical dependence doesn’t take 10 years. It starts to happen fairly quickly. Smoking will very likely have long term health concerns depending on how long you do it, but your physical dependence…what most call addiction…on it doesn’t exist anymore. And again, I only did this research for a couple months. I wasn’t looking at the long term physical impact of nicotine abuse. I should’ve never brought this up! Lol

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Oh….I missed that you were referring to addiction

      I thought you were referring to cancer from a lifetime of smoking

      Gotcha. Now it makes sense

  78. The Flying Pig says:

    Avocado margarita

  79. Krishna says:

    I tried crack once, loved it so much, and have never done it since because i loved it too much. What’s that about?

  80. Tim Knight says:

    I’ll be looking at what some family and friends are posting about on FB that is positive and fun. Then some curmudgeon will jump in and find a way to inject Trump or Biden into it. WTF is that?

  81. Randy says:

    Krishna,
    Absolutely there are both physical and psychological changes in folks…and they change with time too…and long term use of chemicals can have long term effects. I was looking at something else, but it wasn’t really a longitudinal study. I didn’t go to Harvard or anything. Lol

    • Krishna says:

      I didn’t go to Harvard either and i don’t believe that’s a qualification.

      Anectdotal evidence is just as valid as empirical evidence. That’s all I’m saying.

  82. mf13ss says:

    Early 80s British Funk… his name is Junior…

  83. Randy says:

    Krishna,
    Actually anecdotal evidence isn’t as valid as empirical evidence….that’s kinda why it’s anecdotal. But, I get your point. I feel like you’re having a one sided argument.

  84. mf13ss says:

    Krishna says:
    February 10, 2021 at 9:33 pm
    I could be wrong about your position, mf13ss. Penn State should have received the “death” penalty, imo, for their lack of institutional control and protection of “our” children. You did not, as I recall. Correct?
    —————-
    Yes, you were very wrong about my position on PSU.

  85. ocalarob says:

    Will someone pass me the popcorn?

  86. Krishna says:

    I disagree about anecdotal evidence is not as valid. Most evidence is anectdotal until the means to measure it allow for empirical evidence to prove the “theory” or anecdote. Whatever.

  87. Randy says:

    Krishna,
    Well, yeah, you can start with anecdotal evidence, develop a hypothesis and then go about gathering empirical evidence to test that hypothesis. That’s how the scientific method can go. But, you don’t use anecdotal evidence to validate anything because it’s not repeatable. It’s validity can’t be tested or repeated. That doesn’t mean you think it’s worthless.
    ***
    The validity of anecdotal evidence has been long disputed and discussed in psychological research though. Its easy to test blood pressure, for instance, not so easy to test psychological conditions or states. It’s a black hole and an interesting stream of thought.

    • Krishna says:

      Anectdotal evidence is the definition of repetition, just no one there to write it down, to make it scientific. An observation becomes familiar to more than one, an experience is not a one off, people or scientists start to take notice or listen when the masses grow. So….
      It’s studied, tested, measured, then it’s real. Ok.

  88. Tim Knight says:

    I did coke as a casual user in the late 80’s. At 23 I had a bad reaction because I did too much as it was given to me because some dude wanted to hook up with a girl who was a friend of ours. So he was willing to turn all of us on. My heart was palpitating and I could not relax or sleep. I saw cartoons at 6 in the morning I didn’t know existed. I remember saying God, if you let me get through this I’ll never do this again. I never did. Why would I ever want even chance experiencing that again? It was horrible. It wasn’t a fun high. It sucked!

  89. ocalarob says:

    I believe addiction starts with all forms of sugar, sugar is very addictive, being insulin resistant causes addiction. if you can become insulin sensitive you can beat ant addiction.

  90. mf13ss says:

    Krishna says:
    February 10, 2021 at 9:42 pm
    Lol…so you agree PSU should have received the death penalty?
    ——————-
    No, I disagree with the so-called “death penalty” for PSU. Why? It only hurts the innocent student-athletes, who worked so hard to get where they’re at. We’re not talking about a PED program that benefited the student-athletes, we’re talking about one guy who raped others in one program (football). Doesn’t make sense to penalize the innocent players of PSU by invoking said “death penalty”, my man.

    Sandusky should get the death penalty, as far as I’m concerned.

  91. ocalarob says:

    your body sends a signal to your brain to crave in the form of ghrelin, this hormone is increased with insulin resistance and decreased with insulin sensitivity. the way to be insulin sensitive is to not eat any sugar products such as fruit, starches, rice potatoes, milk, strawberries have a low glycemic index.
    so don’t eat sugar and you can beat any addiction.

    • Krishna says:

      Not to disagree with you because I’m not sure what you are saying, but the American diet is (full of carbs, sugar is a carb) is probably the worst on the planet, i.e. unhealthy and addictive.

  92. ocalarob says:

    mf13ss says:
    February 10, 2021 at 10:04 pm
    ^

    And caffeine may be the #1 addictive substance on Earth. BIG BIZ profits over addiction.
    ___________________________________________

    Black coffee in the morning about 2 cups is actually very good for you or so i read

  93. Krishna says:

    That, but sugar is probably more addictive than heroine.

  94. ocalarob says:

    nicotine is the number one most addictive substance, not sure having no sugar can cure that.

    • mf13ss says:

      Depends on who ya talk to, but YES… nicotine is very arguably the most addictive substance. Some say it’s harder to quit cigarettes than crack. Scary, right?!!

      • ocalarob says:

        I started smoking at 18, quit at 25, cold turkey, took about a week to kick it, my friend was driving with me and i said i was throwing my full pack of cigs out the window because i was quitting, he said don’t do that give them to me, so i did. he laughed at me saying you’ll never quit.
        i never smoked again, he now has stage 4 lung cancer

      • mf13ss says:

        That’s sobering, brother.

    • Krishna says:

      Not true.

    • Krishna says:

      The NIH disagrees with you, as well as, most leading health organizations.

      • ocalarob says:

        some have alcohol above nicotine, i disagree with that

      • Krishna says:

        Ok, you can say no just to say no. Seems kinda childish.

        I have a biochemistry degree and doctorate. I know a little about brain chemistry and pharmacalogical, neurological effects. Addictions are typically multi-faceted/complicated. Tobacco is addictive and so is the culture.

  95. CavalierKong says:

    Thanks, Piggy. I’ll take a look at those you posted and I’ll definitely be avoiding the Avocado Margarita, lol.

  96. Randy says:

    I’m beginning to feel more and more like Alice every time I come here. Lol

  97. Mike E. says:

    Guys and gals, we all go too far at one time or another but just know I love y’all because we’re just one big dysfunctional family here. Just take a deep breath and let it go. We’ve been together a long time, and just like any large group, we can’t always see eye to eye. Just honor and respect each other

  98. ocalarob says:

    you guys have a great night

  99. wyoming85 says:

    Avocado’s are gross!
    And tequila makes me do things that are socially unacceptable!

    That couldn’t be a good combination!

  100. Mike E. says:

    Avocados are awesome, just keep them out of my alcoholic beverages

  101. mf13ss says:

    ocalarob says:
    February 10, 2021 at 10:27 pm
    avocado is a super food loaded with omega 3
    —————-
    This is 100% factual. I eat an avocado (whole) at least one a week, sometimes 2 or 3 times. Put a little bit of salt and pepper on it, and it’s very tasty… at least to me.

  102. Randy says:

    Avocados look like baby shit. Nasty things. And tequila is evil. A bottle of that shit was at the start of many bad things back in college. Ever play fuzzy duck or up and down the river with a bunch of college kids in a dorm room and a bottle of Jose Cuervo? Fuck.

  103. Mike E. says:

    Guac Rocks!

  104. mf13ss says:

    Here is a different type of artist/rapper. He’s white, he’s Canadian, and he just doesn’t give a fuck…

    Wonder what y’all may think of him…
    “Fake Woke”…

  105. Mike E. says:

    M, I love a good guacamole. Avocado, jalapeños, onion, salt, pepper and lime. Mmmm.

  106. ocalarob says:

    everyone eats omega6, you should want a 1 to 1 ratio of omega 6 & omega 3, but most foods are just loaded with 6, avocados are a good source of omega 3, when you eat a fatty steak you should do an avocado as well, load it with pink salt and pepper they are great, another super food are sardines. loaded with nutrients and omega 3, a small fish that doesnt live long so its exposure to mercury is limited. stay away from big fish such as swordfish, they are loaded with mercury.

  107. ocalarob says:

    S.M.A.S.H,
    S= sardines
    M= mackeral
    A= anchovis
    S= salmon
    H= herring

    those are the fish you should consume

  108. ocalarob says:

    mf13ss says:
    February 10, 2021 at 10:34 pm
    Blueberries are another super food. I load up on that as well.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    yes however blueberries are a little high on the glycemic level, i try to avoid fructose, my preferred fruit is also a berry, a strawberry, lowest fruit on the glycemic scale.
    i love strawberries. try to stay away though, maybe twice a week.

  109. ocalarob says:

    say you have a long ride ahead, you.re hungry, you go into a small store and want a snack, the best snack healthy wise to get is unflavored pork rinds.

  110. ocalarob says:

    Alcohol is a toxin your liver has to deal with, when it breaks down that toxin it can’t do it’s other jobs such as manufacturing keytones for your bodies fuel source. that’s why you feel like shit the next day

  111. ocalarob says:

    your body is smarter than you are, it is incredibly intelligent, it acts in all phases to preserve your life the best it can with what you expose it to.

  112. ocalarob says:

    i had a sardine cake topped with real bleu cheese for my b day on the 7th

  113. ocalarob says:

    don’t cook with olive oil, it is very fragile, when you add heat to it, it becomes rancid, when you eat cooked olive oil you release free radicals into your body.
    cook with avocado oil, coconut oil, or clarified butter. very high smoke point.

  114. Mike E. says:

    M – Fake woke has a lot of good points in it.

  115. steveccnv says:

    As an FU from the NFL, we may be playing at the Gmen as an added 17th game, and in London this year, having 7 home games and 10 road games.

    Who comes up with this unfair BS? Belicheat?

    Anyone with half a brain would say we should have 8 home/away and 1 in London or 8 home/away and 9 home/away.

    Why is it that we always get the scheduling shaft? The biggest scheduling advantage is playing home on Thursday, but we’ve only had 1 the last 6 or 8 years.

  116. Krishna says:

    I used to make my on own ghee (clarified butter) back in the day.

    All cultures that have been introduced to the American diet end up mirroring the “diseased” health profile of this country.

  117. Krishna says:

    Just saw th SB trophy toss from Brady to the nearest boat. Loved it, but hated it was Brady…..lol!

  118. Krishna says:

    Did you know our medical schools don’t teach nutrition? They teach drugs, pharmaceutical remedies mostly for self-inflicted diseases.

    • steveccnv says:

      They teach how to make money, not preventative solutions.

      That’s what’s wrong with this country.

      You go to the Dr. or dentist and you think they have your best interest at heart, but they don’t always.

      Same thing with politicians.

  119. Mike E. says:

    Steve – Not so much the 17 game season but more on the Dolphins getting 7 home games and 10 road games. That’s sounds absurd. Even if it’s 8 home games, counting the London game as 1 of our home games, they can’t do both of those to the same team. If you play overseas you should get an extra home game, not lose one.

    • steveccnv says:

      You would think we’d get 8 home games, if we had to play in London, but I’m just stating what I read.

      Our stupid ass teams seems to request dumb ass shit for scheduling

  120. steveccnv says:

    The NFL before FA was more like communism or socialism, because it wasn’t an open market of players getting a say in where they played.

    As part of the new NFL with FA, it’s more like capitalism. With that said, when a player signs a contract he gets a larger amount, than he would’ve before FA.

    In the collective bargaining agreement are rules that state how contracts can be terminated before the term is up, such that if a player isn’t deemed worthy of remaining on a team they can cut him, and only have to pay the guaranteed portion remaining.

    That’s the tradeoff for allowing players to be FAs. Players get freedom to sign with any team and whatever sum of money they can get.

    In the case of Watson you hear all of these former players in the media saying he should be able to request a trade. Why should the owners be able to cut a player, but players can’t holdout or say they won’t play for their under contract team?

    These players want to have it both ways, and are always crying, when they don’t get their way, and the media is always sticking up for them.

    • stangerx says:

      I look at it a different way, but more or less agree with you. The system is negotiated with a union acting on behalf of the players and then they get to do what they can within what is set up.

      The ones I feel sorry for are the kids out of college. They have no choice where to play and their salary is set. That breaks anti-trust laws, but then that is why the NFL has an exemption on those.

  121. stangerx says:

    Assume a lot of you guys have caught clips from the impeachment hearings. Q that hits me is what were these “insurrectionists” going to do if they caught Nancy Pelosi or whichever Congressperson or Senator.

    You could say they wanted to take her hostage or even kill her, but they didn’t even bring guns. Assume not coming armed was to escape big punishment, but then kidnapping or murder would be worse.

  122. CavalierKong says:

    I make ghee all the time for the flavor. It’s basically clarified butter that is cooked a lot longer before removing the milk solids so you get that wonderful nutty flavor. I always have a container of it on the counter and use it almost exclusively as my base cooking fat when I prepare Indian dishes.

  123. Mike E. says:

    I make bacon every Sunday and save the bacon fat. Ghee does sound great though.

  124. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – Haven’t watched a second of the farcical impeachment trial and have no intentions of. I don’t really care what happens one way or another. I don’t want Trump to run in ’24 so if he loses, I won’t shed a tear. On the other hand, in some way I feel like it empowers the Democrats so I hope he wins. Either way it’s not going to be a good ending.

    • stangerx says:

      It’s not really about winning or losing. Was clear from the start that wouldn’t be enough GOP Senate votes to convict. But what happened on Jan 6 in the Capitol is fascinating, to me at least. Yesterday’s evidence showed how very close the rioters got to grabbing at least some of the legislators.

      Talking Sen Romney walking right towards them until a Capitol cop tells him to run like hell the other way. Pence and his family got hustled out of the Senate chamber with just a couple minutes to spare. Nothing like that in our lifetime.

      • Mike E. says:

        If they could have taken Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and the Squad and drove them away never to be see again the world would be a better place for it. lol

      • Mike E. says:

        Cuomo and de Blasio too please

      • stangerx says:

        Be careful what you wish for. Pelosi and Schumer are fairly centrist. Might not like what takes their places. Don’t think you’d miss The Squad though….. even if AOC has a nice body.

  125. pheloniusphish says:

    Stanger – Do you think the rioters actually had a plan? That they weren’t just taken over by the mob mentality?

    • stangerx says:

      No doubt some of them at least came ready to do battle. Talking full Tac gear, bats, bear spray and tasers. But that doesn’t mean more of a plan than just battle. Some had zip ties though….. why bring them?

  126. Mike E. says:

    Krishna/Kong – Is it true that if you can get a few tigers to chase each other around a tree that they will turn into a pool of ghee? That sounds like a better solution, you’d probably only have to arrange this once a year, or maybe even every 2 years depending on how much you use it.

    • CavalierKong says:

      LOL
      I had to look that up. I’ve heard of, but never read, Little Black Sambo.

      • Mike E. says:

        I read it as a small child. I was 14 but I was really small. LOL. I think I read it somewhere between 4 and 6 years old, it was pretty strange.

  127. mf13ss says:

    • mf13ss says:

      “MIAMI DOLPHINS: IGNORING THE OL
      The Dolphins have had one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL over the past half-decade and trotted out rookie quarterback Tua Tagovailoa into a minefield this past season because they treated their offensive line as an afterthought. Laremy Tunsil, who they traded away, and 2019 third-rounder Michael Deiter were the only two offensive linemen they drafted before the fifth-round between 2016 and 2019.”
      —————
      While PFF is ignoring the emergence of our rooks of last year, that is an incredible fact that they mention… and Deiter has been a major disappointment thus far.

      • stangerx says:

        They didn’t have to mention the OL rooks until they said Tua was walking into a minefield. Saying what we got for Tunsil would have been fair too. What you get from some guy trying to come up with something for all 32 teams. And guessing Charles Harris wasn’t sexy enough.

  128. stangerx says:

    “Jason Sanders, 25, made 36-of-39 field goals [last season], including going 8-of-9 from 50-plus yards. In his three-year career, Sanders has made 12 of his 15 field goal attempts of 50 yards or longer.”

    According to Barry Jackson, Phins would like to extend Sanders long-term. I say heck yeah.

    • CavalierKong says:

      I think Sanders should be a no-brainer. I’m curious to see if we keep Haack. He was great at avoiding touchbacks, but very average in distance- both gross and net.

  129. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – Schumer is a centrist? Center of what exactly?

    • stangerx says:

      The democrats in Congress. He’s always been a consensus builder with the GOP as well. Not talking Bernie Sanders here.

      • Mike E. says:

        He’s not as far left as Bernie but he’s not as close to the center as you make him seem. His behavior makes me feel like he’s more to the left than ever. Maybe there’s more pressure to satisfy certain constituents to the left.

  130. pheloniusphish says:

    stangerx says:
    February 11, 2021 at 2:40 pm
    No doubt some of them at least came ready to do battle. Talking full Tac gear, bats, bear spray and tasers. But that doesn’t mean more of a plan than just battle. Some had zip ties though….. why bring them?
    __________________________________________________________________________
    Maybe because every conservative demonstration for the last year has been physically attacked by the left? That the authorities have allowed it to happen and the democratic caucus has encouraged it?

    • stangerx says:

      Fair enough to what was going through their minds, but what were the zip ties for?

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Keeping Antifa/counter-protesters out of the fight once they were down? I don’t know what runs through the minds of people who go to a protest expecting violence. When you do that you are committing yourself to doing violence in return or being a victim.

      • stangerx says:

        Don’t know what was in their minds either…. but that is part of the point. These were crazies who got on planes to be there. Beat cops with flag poles holding “Blue Lives Matter” flags.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        And there were crazies burning black business under the banner of Black Lives Matter for the last year. Mob mentality – pitchforks and torches. Doesn’t make for an insurrection.

      • stangerx says:

        Never said it did make for an insurrection, but surely the place and time of this riot was not a coincidence. Makes it a bit more political than a riot and looting thing.

        Especially when almost all there got on planes from all over the country to attend a yes Trump rally and he told them to head on over to the Capitol. But do think Trump has plausible deniability.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      You did call them insurrectionists in the original post. So I figured you considered it an attempted insurrection. I don’t agree that it’s more political; it was only different in that it scared the politicians who gave cause for it rather than some innocent citizens. And if one is going to protest the validity of a Presidential election what better time and place. As for airplanes, almost every protest in DC is made up of people from somewhere else. You know that.

      • stangerx says:

        Put it quotes for a reason — “insurrectionists”…… was trying to put that in question. But does sees if you are going to do an insurrection the US Capitol is a likely place for it.

        As for getting on a plane….. was trying to differentiate from the other rioting and looting you brought up, which was done by locals.

        But yes agree that one side of this was that it was a political protest gone bad. Part of why I said Trump has plausible deniability. He sure wanted a big protest at the Capitol but didn’t necessarily know what would happen.

        I’m agreeing with you more or less, even if throwing a few other thoughts in.

  131. mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    February 11, 2021 at 3:10 pm
    They didn’t have to mention the OL rooks until they said Tua was walking into a minefield. Saying what we got for Tunsil would have been fair too. What you get from some guy trying to come up with something for all 32 teams. And guessing Charles Harris wasn’t sexy enough.
    ——————
    Agreed, but for your last sentence: what does/did Charles Harris have to do with our O-Line?

  132. Tim Knight says:

    I find it boring when these guys rehash the past and keep harping on stuff. Our team is right on course and building the right way. That’s all I care about. 🙂

  133. Rockphin says:

    I had an odd thought a few minutes ago. Now forgive me here (or don’t IDC) because I am not on Twitter, but how does Twitter make money? Is there a membership fee? Do they jamb advertisements down your throat embedded in tweets like Youtube? Are there commercials? HTF does Twitter make money?

  134. Rockphin says:

    Maybe because every conservative demonstration for the last year has been physically attacked by t

    YOU MEAN FUCKING NAZI AND KKK MARCHES!?!?!

    • wyoming85 says:

      Yep it’s all those Trumpites!
      Nazi kkk marches!

      • Rockphin says:

        I want to start this by saying I consume Fox news more than any other channel but I don’t know of any “conservative demonstrations” that were attacked that didn’t have POS scumbags chanting “the jews will not replace us” or WHITE POWER

        In the same post I believe the Antifa antagonists and anarchist are scumbag POS too.

        The horseshoe theory. The further nut job left you go or the farther dingbat right you go the more similar the crazy’s become.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Free speech protests particularly on campus. Any other protest that was labeled conservative. Any and pretty much every Trump political rally. The only Nazis to be found are on on the left like you, trying to silence anyone who doesn’t conform to your philosophy. Don’t be a fuckwit.

      • mf13ss says:

        +1000000000000, Phelon.

      • Rockphin says:

        hey, i have never tried to silence anyone Phel get that straight. NATIONALISM was the base of the NAZI PARTY NO? WHITE NATIONALISTS are a core segment of the “right” and are forgiven and defend which is disgusting. It should NEVER be tolerated but you just stuck up for nazis out of a knew jerk defense of “the right”

        Racism should never be defended or encouraged
        It should be checked and fought against always. NO exceptions. So get off your horse about me trying to silence anyone. There is no need for name calling unless of course you identify as a racist and if that is the case FUCK YOU

        There is ONE party right now that consistently looks the other way or worse embraces white supremacist and nationalists. It is the Republican party.

        DAMN FUCKING SHAME because I used to identify as a Republican.
        Locals should run their own lives.
        The fed is there to provide for the common defense
        The less federal laws there are the better
        All people ALL have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness

        The LEFT needs to stand up and condemn the anarchists too. They are despicable as well. BECAUSE ONE IS TRUE DOES NOT MAKE THE OTHER FALSE

        Bad behavior should always be condemned. TDS on the right has derailed morality of the party. EVERYTHING is forgiven and defended because the dirty left is against it.

        I see so many otherwise intelligent people be so willfully ignorant when it comes to “party” I have never followed the party line and find it offensive that there is a party line. Why can’t I be pro-choice and against using federal funds for abortion both? Why can’t I disagree on spending billions on special interest projects while not giving a fuck if gays want to get married?

  135. Rockphin says:

    ahhh must be like banners and stuff on the “app” or website? I only see tweets that are reposted either in a post or in a collection bar like on Phins.com/newswire I never see their adds then cause I don’t have the app or go to the site. Got it.

  136. The Flying Pig says:

    I just saw this touching video about a child dealing with the death of a pet

    It brought a tear to my eye so I thought I would share it

  137. pheloniusphish says:

  138. Tim Knight says:

    Does anyone personally know Nazis, white supremacists or KKK members? I ask this because I do not. Do I know some bigots and/or racists? Yes! But none of those idiots are part of an organization, they’re just ignorant. Another thing is some of them are black, brown and beige.

    I bring this up because people act like they’re everywhere in large numbers and that’s not really the case. Just like not all people left of center are far left socialists and communists. The broad brush is a very dangerous weapon.

    • stangerx says:

      But they make themselves heard, and loudly. Part of why all the rest of us should ignore their voices….. but don’t. See Charlottesville.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Exactly right! But the word Nazi gets thrown around like it’s common in this country as if they don’t even know what Nazi’s were all about. The people who give these fringe radical groups a voice are the ones who claim to despise them the most. Paranoid much?

    • Rockphin says:

      I would bet the farm that you DO know them. They ARE everywhere. You might just not know they are. They were hoods for a reason.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Rock, I DO NOT know anyone who is part of those groups nor have I seen KKK rallies with people wearing hoods anytime in my life. Skinheads, never see them. People doing the Nazi sign with their arms in the air, don’t see them either. You know where I DO see them, on the news and on social media. But never in person. Isn’t that strange? I live in one of the most populated and diverse areas in the country. So where are they?

    • CavalierKong says:

      We had a pretty large skinhead movement out here in the early 90’s. There were a couple active factions. I knew quite a few during that time (my teenage into early 20s years).

  139. bailbondmike says:

    Sad note. Lindbergh Pedro Lopez passed away yesterday evening. Who is he?

    Mr. Lopez had to leave home at age of 14 along with his older brother because, in the early 1940’s, his parents could no longer take care of him and his 8 siblings. He lived on the streets for a year living off handouts and working for bread. At age of 15, he decided he wanted to be part of something big and help his country fight in WWII.

    Why? Cause the stories his father had always told him to fight for your liberty and fight for your country. His father fought along side Pancho Villa in 1913. He has a photo of his father with Poncho Villa. He could no longer fight due to injuries. When Pancho Villa took the fight south to Mexico City his father headed north and left Mexico for America. With nothing his father made his way to New York City to make a new life. His father changed his name from Acosta to Lopez and met Mr. Lopez’s mother a Dutch-Canadian.

    Mr. Lopez went to the Marine Corps and they wanted his birth documentation. He told them he does not have any and he was homeless. He lied and said he was 18. Six months later he found himself in France fighting in WWII. Years later he found himself still in the Marine Corps but on the other side of the world fighting in Korea. After Korea, he was emotionally exhausted and got out after serving 10 years. The military was the only thing he knew. Quickly missing military life, he joined the Army less than a year later. He worked his way up to Master Sergeant and years later, in 1965-67, he found himself again fighting half way around the world in Vietnam. He ended up retired after 30 years of faithful service.

    In the later years of his career, he found God. After his military career he worked as a Deacon for the Shelby County Baptist Assoc. for 30 years.

    He spent the last 6 years of his life living with his beautiful daughter and son-in-law in Florida.

    This is who Lindbergh Pedro Lopez is. My father-in-law. RIP Poppy! One of the greatest patriots I will ever know. We will greatly miss you.

    Semper Fi

  140. Tim Knight says:

    Sorry for your loss BBMike.

  141. Rockphin says:

    Condolences BBM celebrate a full life

  142. Rockphin says:

    LONG reply up the board for you Phel

  143. herdfan says:

    My condolences BBM and a wonderful tribute.

  144. Mike E. says:

    Tim – I know some people who are definitely antisemitic but I wouldn’t classify them as Nazis. They’re basically full on racists but don’t think they are. Know people like that?

    • Tim Knight says:

      I said I know people like that too. But they’re not organized and trying to take over the country. They’re idiots and ignorant. I said that already.

      You know what group of people is trying to take over land and communities – Hassidic Jews. They buy communities, drive other cultures out and live by their own laws. They give all Jewish people a bad rap because of their practices. I don’t even consider them a faith based organization. They’re a cult like most religions. They just happen to be very strange. They all dress alike and don’t really assimilate unless it’s for business. I’ve had many experiences with different sects of the Jewish religion. There is extreme and moderate just like everything else. The extreme is always the worst.

  145. Rockphin says:

    Tim, There is a way I can prove my point to you, but I actually advise against it. I am 100% sure without a doubt that if you tried to find “like minded” people in your county or parish (not sure where you live) you can connect with others. IN YOUR ZIP CODE. Now, I wouldn’t try because you would probably wind up on a government list somewhere. LOL

    I’m just saying it is more prevalent than is openly shown and the cowards only get courage enough to announce their beliefs when they assemble at rally’s. You think all those people in Charlottesville walked home?

    I am unfortunate enough to live in a state where it is coddled and defended as free speech as policy I guess.

    • Rockphin says:

      Same for the Antifa and anarchists BTW but they are more “concentrated” into certain areas due to economic inequity, racial or otherwise.

  146. Rockphin says:

    You know, maybe it is because I am a white blue eyed guy who has shaved my head for the past 25 years and have Celtic Tattoos, but I get racist / antisemitic comments directed to me 10 times a week. From strangers. With a “am I right?” attitude. Most times I let em know. Sometimes due to circumstances you have to let it go. There are a LOT of racists in S. FL.

  147. Rockphin says:

    Anyway,I never set out to be a Race Warrior tonight, this discussion has gone way off track .

  148. mf13ss says:

    Anybody want to talk about football this evening, instead of inadvertently exposing themselves as racists?

  149. bailbondmike says:

    My father-in-law said that there will always be economic inequity. His thinking was it will balance itself out eventually race wise but the rich and powerful will make sure there will always be economic inequity. Not sure if he was basing that on anything or just the way he saw things.

    He brought up the inequality issue quite a bit. He said in this day and age he just don’t get it. The opportunities that are out there now for any race compared to the 60’s and 70’s is night and day. Being hispanic was tough during his entire military career from the early 40’s to 70’s but he made it to the highest enlisted rank in 24 years. Said, “I know what I wanted and went after it”. Said that is the problem with this day and age. No one wants to go get it. They just want to bitch until it’s given to them. They wait for someone to rise up THEN they finally get off their ass and get behind them then others get behind them and all they do is bitch. He said opportunities are there for everyone if they just go get it. Instead, everyone wants to just bitch.

    In case you didn’t know, bitch was one of his fav words. The dog would start barking and he would ask him what he was bitching about. lol

  150. pheloniusphish says:

    Rock – I shouldn’t have called you a fuckwit even tangentially. Politically we’re about the same. And wrong should be called out on both sides. But even though I’m not particularly conservative, I get tired of people throwing out Nazi and nationalist and racist every time conservative is mentioned. I know you are informed enough not to think that every conservative rally or protest over the last year plus was about nationalists or racists. Yes Nazi Germany had an element of nationalism but it also had an element of socialism. Being proud of your country doesn’t equate to being a Nazi.

    And fuck you for not only making me read that long ass post, but for making me scroll all the way up to find it.

  151. Rockphin says:

    Team Picks
    3: R1 P3 WR Ja’Marr Chase – LSU
    18: R1 P18 LB Zaven Collins – Tulsa
    41: R2 P9 S Tre’Von Moehrig – TCU
    50: R2 P18 C Creed Humphrey – Oklahoma
    72: R3 P8 RB Javonte Williams – North Carolina
    81: R3 P17 RB Trey Sermon – Ohio State
    122: R4 P18 EDGE Chauncey Golston – Iowa
    201: R6 P16 DL Mustafa Johnson – Colorado
    255: R7 P30 DL Jordon Scott – Oregon
    Trades

    Trade Partner: Detroit Lions

    Sent:

    Round 2 Pick 4

    Received:

    Round 2 Pick 9

    Round 3 Pick 8

  152. mf13ss says:

    HOT song!

  153. manitobafinfan says:

    Condolences BBM sounds like a great person

  154. Tim Knight says:

    Rock, I think the percentage of hardcore racists to take over this country is so low it won’t happen and it hasn’t been happening. It’s been getting better for decades. The radicals rile everyone up like Stanger said earlier.

  155. son of a son of a shula says:

    Sorry BBM my condolences to you and your wife and family. The greatest generation!

  156. Krishna says:

    Bbm, all the best to you and yours during this time. I feel for your loss.

  157. steveccnv says:

    BBM, sorry to hear about Lindbergh. He seemed like an amazing man. Someone we can all learn from.

  158. bailbondmike says:

    Thanks for all the kind words. Very much appreciated!!!

  159. bailbondmike says:

    Since this blog was about OL, many of us are mocking one of the top OC’s to us. Well, things got a little tougher on that now that both Pouncey brothers are retiring from the NFL. I do want us to resign Karras but feel we need to draft another by our 2nd round if we want a good one. I feel many of the top OC’s go there. Steelers could take the top OC at pick 24 or possibly waiting until pick 55. I can also see the chargers taking one at 47.

    It all depends if Big Ben comes back which things are pointing that he is. We could see OC Creed Humphrey or QB Mac Jones going to Steelers at 24. Possibly an OT and outside chance Najee Harris.

    Not sure who Chargers used to back up Mike Pouncey but they will be in the OC market as well.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I wouldn’t really love the idea of taking a center in the first round

      But in the 2nd or 3rd round, that would probably be a good pick

      A trade down in the first to pick up an extra day 2 pick probably makes a center in the 2nd or 3rd round a lot more likely

      I think it’s important that we come out of the first two days of the draft with a RB and a WR

      There’s certainly riom to build on our OL with those sort of parameters

      • steveccnv says:

        I’m thinking the same way, but I’d be OK taking 2 playmakers in the 1st, instead of RB/WR. Pitts would be in play for me, so maybe something like Chase/Pitts or Smith/Harris.

        I’d almost think about trading back twice in the first, something like 3 to 8, then to 12 and taking Harris at 12. The thinking is Harris is the back I want, some others would be OK like the 2 NC RBs, but Harris is the must have. At WR I’d be OK with any of the top 3, just not at 3.

        The trade back to 6, 8 or 12 I think needs to happen, because we have so many choices, that would work as our 1st pick in the draft at these spots.

        The PSU TE is also an option after the first, so if we don’t take Pitts…

    • bailbondmike says:

      I totally agree though I think the Steelers may pull that trigger on Humphrey at #24.

  160. bailbondmike says:

    Who knows, if they like Karras a lot they could give him a 3-4 year deal. He seemed to be a good leader on that very young OL which played better than we could ask of a bunch of rookies. My top 5 OC’s to be drafted in the 1st 4 rounds are:

    1. Creed Humphrey (Oklahoma)-6’5/320
    2. Josh Myers (Ohio State)-6’5/312
    3. Landon Dickerson (Alabama)-6’6/325
    4. Trey Hill (Georgia)-6’4/330
    5. Jimmy Morrissey (Pittsburgh)-6’3/305

    Does anyone know if Luke Matthews OC at Texas A&M declared for the draft? If he did, I might would have to squeeze him in at #4. He is really good and is the son of HOF OL Bruce Matthews and his brother plays OT for the Falcons.

  161. steveccnv says:

    In a typical year, 1 selection per round, the draft doesn’t give you much hope to improve right away, but having these extra picks, especially at #3, gives great hope.

    We need to parlay pick 3 into something big, or at least some extra picks. 3 to 8 plus a 2nd and 2022 1st is the kind of trade that I’m looking for.

    Carolina may suck in 2021 again. We could be looking at another top pick next year.

    Going 3 to 12 isn’t quite as enticing, because I expect SF to be good in 2021. 3 to 6 with Detroit might land the 1st pick in 2022.

  162. ocalarob says:

    I would’ve trade #5 last year for a drop back and a 1st rnder this year if i could have. we would be sitting with 3 #1s now and parlay one of those into future #1s, keep it paying forward.

    Instead we are stuck with Tua!

    i sure hope they do a better job this year!

  163. bailbondmike says:

    Using PFF simulator I would shit my britches if we got this! Remember, we already have extra picks in rounds 6 and 7 in 2022. A trade down would almost guarantee 10 picks in 2022 draft.

    Trade wtih Eagles
    Dolphins received #6, R1 2022, #37
    Eagles got #3

    6 DeVonta Smith WR • Alabama
    18 Gregory Rousseau ED • Miami (FL)
    36 Kadarius Toney WR • Florida
    37 Wyatt Davis G • Ohio State
    50 Najee Harris HB • Alabama
    81 Creed Humphrey C • Oklahoma
    123 Jay Tufele DI • USC
    202 Tariq Thompson S • San Diego State
    208 Sam Ehlinger QB • Texas

    Overall Draft Grade
    A

  164. wyoming85 says:

  165. wyoming85 says:

    JJ Watt is a great player when healthy!

    I don’t think he’s finished the last 3 years? Maybe 4?

  166. stangerx says:

    Texans released J.J. Watt. That should make Watson feel better about staying.

    • steveccnv says:

      Fuck Watson, he has no leverage, and is a punk ass bitch

      • stangerx says:

        Can’t blame the guy for wanting out of the disaster that is the Texans. Different than when Le’veon Bell sat out cause he wanted more bucks and was already getting $15 mil or something.

  167. Rockphin says:

    Tim, don’t mistake me. I have no fears that nazis or white supremacists will ever take over the country. I just find it offensive that a certain political party embraces them and shields them as “very fine people” . JUST like I find it offensive that a certain other party condones anarchy from portions of their base. We all need to be able to see past the “party” and judge issues independently.

    “whataboutism” needs to fucking stop. Or at a minimum one must be able to concede that one’s side is wrong about something before injecting “whatabouts”

    • stangerx says:

      At best “whataboutism” just makes two things wrong. Doesn’t make either right.

      • Rockphin says:

        exactly! But you can’t have a discussion about right or wrong with some people because they refuse to admit wrong is wrong or excuse wrong because “what is good for the goose is good for the gander” NO it never was and never will be. It is wrong.

      • stangerx says:

        A guy is caught on videotape shooting a family of four and he’s arrested at the scene with the murder weapon in hand. His lawyer’s defense: “butwhatabout Columbine and all those kids who were killed. I can prove that happened… obviously you must release my client.”

    • Tim Knight says:

      That line Trump used as “very fine people” has been misinterpreted from the beginning especially by people that hate him. He was talking about two peaceful groups – one for keeping the statues and one for taking them down. He wasn’t referring to the racist groups that showed up. He even made a point of saying that’s not who was he talking about but some people ignored that and continue to do so. Truth doesn’t matter sometimes when it goes against a specific narrative.

      Just like Breonna Taylor wasn’t executed by police when she was peacefully sleeping in her bed. She wasn’t sleeping, she was in the hallway with her criminal boyfriend who had a gun and got caught in the crossfire. Yet there are people who still say she was killed while sleeping. Does that even make sense to anyone?

      Anyway, people want to move on and talk football so I’ll join them. 🙂

      • stangerx says:

        Sleeping or not, find it hard not to feel sorry for Breonna Taylor. Warrant was about the activities of an old boyfriend, whether the current one was a criminal or not. And I’m not even saying the cops did anything wrong.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah I get that. I’m talking about how people ignore facts because it kills their narrative.

  168. CavalierKong says:

    The Pouncey brothers retired as one. Now they can go out to the club and wear their ‘Free Hernandez’ hats together 24/7.

  169. mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    February 12, 2021 at 12:57 pm
    Texans released J.J. Watt. That should make Watson feel better about staying.
    ——————–
    I see it as the exact opposite, man. J.J. made their Defense better, so losing him is more enticing for Watson to leave. What’s more, after the 4th Qtr in their last game, J.J. and Watson left the field together, just the two of them, and video/audio picked up J.J. saying something to the extent of, ‘you’ve wasted your best years here (in Houston), Deshaun’.

    Maybe you didn’t know this, but methinks Deshaun is definitely leaving, now that J.J. is gone.

    • mf13ss says:

      Ah, here’s the video/audio…

      • mf13ss says:

        I was close, but not quite accurate. My bad. Nevertheless, Deshaun wants out, and that J.J. is gone, Deshaun will likely follow.

    • stangerx says:

      I’m sorry M…. was being sarcastic (so completely agree). Think the main reason Watson wants to leave is cause he doesn’t want to go through a total rebuild. But him leaving doesn’t mean he comes to us either. Think small chance of that.

    • steveccnv says:

      When JJ said that he was just sucking dick. No one forced Watson to sign that massive contract, and by doing so he either didn’t care that he wasted time there or he didn’t waste time there. Either way it was his choice and he can’t blame the organization for all his years prior to 2020.

      It’s like your wife telling you she wants a divorce, then saying I never loved you.

  170. mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    February 12, 2021 at 2:33 pm
    I’m sorry M…. was being sarcastic (so completely agree). Think the main reason Watson wants to leave is cause he doesn’t want to go through a total rebuild. But him leaving doesn’t mean he comes to us either. Think small chance of that.
    ———————-
    Oh! Then I’M sorry for missing your sarcasm! Yes, we’re in complete agreement, bud.

    I’d would say… I’m not interested in seeking his services. I LOVE J.J. Watt as a person, but his injuries continue to pile up. We want to continue to rebuild, not to claim 30+ past-their-prime players. That’s my take, anyway.

  171. mf13ss says:

    Krishna says:
    February 12, 2021 at 3:05 pm
    I got you sarcasm! Pretty obvious the Texans are a shit show.
    ——————–
    Totally agreed. The Texans have regressed to point of FUGLY.

  172. Rockphin says:

    LOL I Knew this would not just end.

    • bailbondmike says:

      You could post a photo of Biden with a cat head like that and change the caption to read, “I am not a dog!”. lol

      • Rockphin says:

        I don’t get your joke. This post was in reference to the video Piggy posted of the Zoom trial appearance when the lawyer had a cat filter on. It had nothing to do with politics.

  173. bailbondmike says:

    My guess is JJ Watt ends up one of 3 places. They will be teams that have a chance at winning a SB now, of course.

    Pittsburgh to play along side his brother. Big Ben retires that might change that. UNLESS, Big Ben retires and they trade the farm for Watson.

    Green Bay, I think is a possibility

    Tampa Bay is another. They are going to lose Shaq Barrett. They won’t be able to afford him. Shaq Barrett’s words: “‘I feel like it’s time for me to break the bank now'”

  174. bailbondmike says:

    Also, I would retract GB as a landing spot for Watt. They are in more cap hell than the Steelers. TB has plenty of cap space though.

    • Tim Knight says:

      So Tampa could re-sign him.

      • bailbondmike says:

        I was meant TB signing JJ Watt, but yeah, they have the money to resign Barrett also. I could also see them letting Barrett go and signing Watt cheaper then drafting another DE at #32 like Carlos Basham, DE, Wake Forest or Jaelen Phillips, DE, Miami.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Barrett played more of a OLB edge role though. The Bucs defense was basically nickel against the Chiefs. 2 DT, 4 LB and 5 DB. I guess you could consider him a hybrid end.

  175. stangerx says:

    JJ Watt was on the books for $17 mil in 2021. Maybe the Texans didn’t deal him cause at that number he had no trade value, but he won’t come cheap.

  176. stangerx says:

    Trump “went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him, and we shouldn’t have listened to him. And we can’t let that ever happen again.”
    — Nikki Haley, who yeah wants to run for Pres in 2024…. but that’s a break away.

    • steveccnv says:

      It’s just politics, those words shouldn’t be taken at face value. To a Trump supporters it means FU Nikki I’ll never vote for you.

      • stangerx says:

        For sure that is what it means to Trump supporters and she knew that. Q is why she made that choice. she didn’t have too. And Trump might not even run in 2024.

    • steveccnv says:

      The path she was referring to is breaking up/exposing the establishment.

      So her saying what she did means she wants to go back to the old corrupt ways.

    • ocalarob says:

      I know, let’s vote for someone who wants to stop travel to FL because we are a thriving community that has fared better than NY or Calif in the covid fight while also not destroying our economy.
      we should stop the max exodus out of our NY and Calif concentration camps

  177. steveccnv says:

    Shaq Barrett wanting to break the bank, after having a breakout season in a contract year… just say no. It’s selfish players like that, that we don’t need.

    I hate Brady, because he was on the cheats, but he’s a team player and one of the reasons they had the talent they did.

  178. The Flying Pig says:

    Nikki Haley is from South Carolina ORob

    Wtf does that have to do with NY or CA?

    • stangerx says:

      I think it came from reports that all travel to and from FL might be stopped cause the UK variant is running wild here. Not sure why NY and CA came into it though.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Not only does it not have anything to do with ny or ca, but that issue has nothing to do with Nikki Haley

        She’s just making a general commentary about trump

        And Steve is right (and I think you were thinking the same)- it’s just politics

        Last month she was praising trump when it suited her
        She’s just setting herself up to be his opposition

        We are going to see a lot of republicans take this posture in the next couple of years, usually for their own political ambitions.

        It’s not personal it’s politics 101

        It doesn’t make them pinko, new york, commie members of antifa….lol

    • pheloniusphish says:

      And she is conservative, smart, and supported Trump to the end, to include opposing the impeachment. She may be the most electable Republican out there for 2024. Having a demonstration is one thing – our election process begs to be questioned, and the the things that the democrats did with mail in voting just before the election, legally, – but it’s not a game show. You can’t throw over the top shit against the wall to see what sticks. No one with a tick of sense would call her a leftist or imply she was part of the establishment.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Its obvious that it was a knee jerk reaction to the fact that she was criticizing Trump….

        That’s actually a theme of American politics the last 4-5 years

  179. mf13ss says:

    MY RULE: in FA, sign one player on each side of the ball. And no, it doesn’t have to be a BLOCKBUSTER signing.

    Offense: re-sign Center Ted Karras. Yes, let’s draft his replacement this year, also.
    Defense: I’m MOST intrigued with signing Patrick Peterson as a Safety. If he wants to be a CB, bye bye… I’m not interested in you.

    • mf13ss says:

      Also have to think about signing Pearl Thomas as a Safety. He didn’t even play a snap last year, so his contract should be friendly.

      Don’t know if Coach Flores wants ANYTHING to do with Pearl, but he is an option.

      • Tim Knight says:

        He’s become a bit of a jerk. Safety is not a big need on our team. More speed up front on defense and playmakers on offense.

  180. Rockphin says:

    Team Picks
    10: R1 P10 LB Micah Parsons – Penn State
    18: R1 P18 RB Najee Harris – Alabama
    36: R2 P4 WR Rashod Bateman – Minnesota
    50: R2 P18 C Josh Myers – Ohio State
    81: R3 P17 EDGE Patrick Jones II – Pitt
    98: R3 P34 S Jamien Sherwood – Auburn
    122: R4 P18 DL Marlon Tuipulotu – USC
    153: R5 P9 S Tyree Gillespie – Missouri
    201: R6 P16 TE Quintin Morris – Bowling Green
    255: R7 P30 FB Mason Stokke – Wisconsin
    Trades

    Trade Partner: Dallas Cowboys

    Sent:

    Round 1 Pick 3

    Received:

    Round 1 Pick 10

    Future Round 1 Pick

    Round 3 Pick 34

    Future Round 3 Pick

    Round 5 Pick 9

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t know how I feel about Bateman but other than that, this hits all the squigglies

      • Rockphin says:

        every thing I read had him as a late 1st round before he opted out, but I don’t watch College ball so I just go by post season “research” which is typically other guys opinions divided by stats times how many times I see his name in mock drafts

    • wyoming85 says:

      The fist 5 would be great!
      Add a 1st for 2022 is icing on the cake!

  181. Tim Knight says:

    Republicans want to move away from Trump but they have to be careful because he has a huge base. Hardcore conservatives will vote for the Republican candidate regardless, but they have to be their own person with their own ideas, not just anti-Trump. That’s the problem I have with Democrats. They don’t run on positivity, they run on anger and anti-this and anti-that. Not sure why that inspires people?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I dont agree with your characterization of democrats but I do agree with the first part of your post. That’s the internal struggle within the Republican Party over the next couple of years that we are going to see unfold

      What Kinzinger is doing is a good example of that. Who knows if it catches on, but I think that Haley quote is a good example of what some republicans are trying to do to distinguish themselves

      https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-politics-impeachments-adam-kinzinger-political-action-committees-3e221ef16b7324026a280729da68ee0c

      I expect to hear a lot of negative stuff about “RINOs” in retaliation
      It’s going to be interesting to watch it unfold, even though I’m a bystander and probably won’t support either side in that fight when it’s said and done

      • Tim Knight says:

        Piggy, you don’t think Democrats speak to people in angry ways? Hillary, Bernie, Warren, Pelosi, Waters, AOC etc.? They’re always calling people out as this or that and we’re going to change it whether you like it or not. I don’t like people scolding me and threatening me like I’m in 4th grade. Harris called out Biden on race issues during the primaries and now they’re two peas in a pod. Does anyone listen to anything anyone says anymore or is it just about team?

        My main point is how does that inspire you? The Democrats basically tried to paint the country as if we’re back in the Jim Crow/George Wallace days when that wasn’t happening at all. It was fucking propaganda to rile up other angry folks. But oh no, only Trump did that. They all did that!!! That’s what politicians do.

        Now that the horrible dictator is gone, watch how the new elite goes about their business. You think it’s going to be all peaches and cream? Nope!!! Government is going to grow even bigger and anger more people as they tell everyone we know better what’s good for you than you do. That’s their ideology. Why do you think some us consider ourselves as libertarians. Stop micro-managing our lives.

        Just remember I said this. 😉

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Not really, no

        I’ve never felt scolded by any of those people. I might disagree with them about their ideas. I also disagree about the presentation/rhetoric of those ideas (Bernie comes to mind as a guy who I don’t love to listen to) but at the end of the day I do not take the proposal of ideas as scolding me. I either agree or reject them.

        I also don’t really hear the phrase big government and hide under a desk either. There are certainly limitations I like in place in terms of govt intrusion, but I find the Republican Party to be very inconsistent on those topics. I don’t really love “big govt” as a catch phrase I should respond to, I would much rather hear ideas of how our govt should act and where our tax dollars should be spent instead of blanket criticism of the concept of big government.

        Those are some fundamental differences. I don’t think there’s a right or a wrong in the way you or I think about them. But I really just don’t feel like you do when I hear those people speak

        The Harris/Biden confrontation is a really good example of that. I didn’t walk away hating either candidate. And I really respect the fact that Biden heard her out, listened and expressed his point of view then and now. I think that’s the right way for people to speak to each other about issues, even sensitive ones like race.

    • New Age says:

      The problem with Republicans and the reason Trump gained traction is that they don’t give a damn about their voters and what they want. It’s more about pushing the same old shit from the 80s and earlier. Big business! War! Special Interests! Almost no one in the party wants that anymore or the fake scumbags who profit while lying to their voters. If, a HUGE IF, they find someone else who pushes tough on illegal immigration, anti-China, anti-shipping off jobs, no wars, and wants to improve our job market? That person will get votes

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I like that fiscal responsibility Reagonomics stuff much more than the Nationalism Trumpism stuff

        But I guess I’m not the target audience anyway

  182. New Age says:

    BBM,

    Late but sorry for your loss. Sounds like an amazing guy.

  183. Mike E. says:

    According to NFL Radio, JJ Watt and the Texans mutually agreed to him leaving the team. Supposedly, he approached ownership and asked to be released.

  184. Mike E. says:

    Preach it Tim!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Oh don’t say that, because regardless of what we say, people pigeon hole you as this or that.

      Example: Between some friends and I, we had a discussion where I said I feel protests are never really peaceful. It’s not peaceful in nature. You’re calling someone or something out so it’s not really peaceful. I didn’t say violent, I said not peaceful. If you are invited to someone’s house for Thanksgiving, they provide their home, socializing and the food and beverages for you to have a great time. You then stand up and say this food sucked and you didn’t provide the beer I like. You didn’t physically attack anyone, but were your actions peaceful?

      So one of my friends responded privately and said there have been peaceful protests like the women’s marches a couple of year ago across the country. I then said but at the same time, they forgot other responsibilities like not doing this.

  185. Krishna says:

    I like Nickie Haylee. I don’t know why she sucked Trump’s dick. Whatever….maybe she’s ready to syep up

  186. New Age says:

    Tim,

    This latest impeachment schtick actually had Trumps’ lawyers showing all the hate and rhetoric the other side is allowed to do non-stop….but Trump doing it is wrong! The only thing wrong was our plutocrats finally saw some anger and wet themselves. The plebs can’t do this! We are their rulers!!

  187. The Flying Pig says:

    I’ll tell you guys right now

    I’m not touching any of the impeachment debate and Krishna, i wouldn’t even engage if I were you. You aren’t going to change any one’s mind

  188. Randy says:

    The only reason I’d sign Watt is for his leadership. I’m not so sure how much he’s got left. I have no problem thinking he may play a few more years but at what level? 40 tackles and 5 or 6 sacks? Meh. I love the guy, but I don’t know that I’d sign him. If I’m him I’m going to a serious SB contender anyway, and that ain’t us.

    • New Age says:

      I agree. He seems to have lost a step after all those injuries. 40 tackles and 5-6 sacks is ok but nothing to get excited about.

  189. Krishna says:

    I didn’t bring up impeachment. I responded and gave an opinion.

    Let’s start wirh facts. I think he deserves it and i don’t hide from that

    I think he’s q piece of shit for rhe last 20 years. Hmmmmmm.

  190. Tim Knight says:

    I’m not even talking about impeachment. I’m talking about the current state of our society and government. Move the fuck on to the present. WTF is wrong with people? Yeah let’s still keep focusing on Trump. And that helps the country improve how?

    You know what it is, it slows down the thought process on what the Democrats will do and they’re pretty much in power now. Instead of focusing on what they don’t do and can’t do, they keep everyone still focused on Trump. The mad king is dead. Everyone rejoices and celebrates as the backdoor stuff goes down. Come on man, the blues has been singing about the backdoor man for a century. It’s not about the sexual act, it’s about the deception and lying.

    • New Age says:

      Biden has signed over 50 EOs so far. These are the exact opposite of how the Constitution laid out how our government is supposed to function. Congress is supposed to legislate but way too many people seem to like watching the president do it…while complaining about dictators lol.

  191. Tim Knight says:

    Is it wrong if I think Lindsey Graham looks like a lesbian?

  192. D says:

    Rockphin says:
    February 12, 2021 at 5:31 pm
    I don’t get your joke. This post was in reference to the video Piggy posted of the Zoom trial appearance when the lawyer had a cat filter on. It had nothing to do with politics.
    ————————–
    Neither did BBMs was a play on his senility which it’s funny in that respect but likely very true to what would happen.

  193. bookman11 says:

    I hate the political talk, but it seems to me Trump is out, the Democrats by in large have control, let’s see what they do the next 2-4 years.

    Honestly, I am 58 this year, just don’t screw with my 401K. Lol. (By the way, I am just making a joke….please don’t break down my risks or what I should be doing, especially David)

  194. bookman11 says:

    As far as the Dolphins are concerned, I think what we do in the FA period before the draft will give a big hint to what we do in the draft. Yep! I am Captain Obvious. I guess what I am saying is, once we get through the initial FA period, then maybe we will be able to “guess” what we might do in the draft.

  195. bookman11 says:

    I am all in on keeping our draft capital and/or improving, while building around Tua. I trust the combination of Flores and Grier.

    • Tim Knight says:

      “I trust the combination of Flores and Grier.”

      That’s our trust as fans. We’re just beginning year three of their vision and already people want to take it down. Is Tua the guy after an up and down rookie season and a 10-6 record? Just missed the playoffs by a hair.

      So what now… we balk and get off course?

      I say no, a monster is being built but there is no patience for it. I’m looking forward to the 2021 season. 🙂

  196. ElephantRider says:

    Watt will be going to GB.

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