The Miami Dolphins secondary was the strongest unit on the 2020 roster, but it wasn’t necessarily because of the play of our safeties. I believe Eric Rowe had a strong season, but the strength of the secondary was based on the excellent play of the two corners, Xavien Howard and Byron Jones. Bobby McCain was good, not great, and the younger players showed some promise here and there but failed to make a clear case to be a starter going forward. Clayton Fejedelem who was a free agent pickup and a good one because Fejedelem is a special teams ace.
Young Brandon Jones proved to be a reliable tackler and that’s good, but didn’t show anything special as far as instincts in pass coverage. Jones was seconds in tackles in the secondary behind Eric Rowe with 62 tackles, but his 1 pass defensed and zero interceptions seem to imply he’s better in run support and bringing down receivers than he is in pass coverage. Jones still had a nice rookie season after being drafted in the 3rd RD (#70). Kavon Frazier who came over from Dallas in free agency played in 15 games but he was almost solely on special teams. Good Ole Bobby McCain had somewhat of a bounce back season, but I don’t feel like he did anything that made him indispensable for this coming season. His cap hit versus salary make him a possible cap casualty as they can save about $5.6M if they cut him. This can open up a potential spot for either Brandon Jones or potentially a draft pick or a free agent signing.
In the 2021 draft, S Trevon Moehrig from TCU may be the best prospect for us. Moehrig 6’2 202 has the size and length that we don’t have with Bobby Mac. A former WR and special teams guy Moehrig worked hard to become a very strong defensive player.He has good ball skills with 4 INT’s in his Sophomore year and adding another 2 in a shortened season last year. He possesses good instincts and good long range speed along with a quick burst, ideal for coverage in the NFL where it could be anything from a RB, WR or TE. Jevon Holland is another good safety prospect but he may be similar to Bobby Mac in that he also plays the slot well and may end up a better player at slot CB than safety. This is not a great safety class and it appears as if Moehrig is the cream of the crop.
In free agency, Justin Simmons heads the class. He’s almost certainly out of range as he will garner somewhere around $15M per, so he will not be a Miami Dolphin. Former NY Jet Marcus Maye is also a top FA, but again, he will be out of our range. Former Steeler Sean Davis is a free agent and I liked him in that draft, very explosive and agile, ran a 4.46 40, 3.97 short shuttle which is very fast and a 6.64 3 cone which is elite agility. In the NFL though, Davis has been meh, starting at SS in his first 3 seasons and coming up with 5 INT’s those 3 years. The drafting of Terrell Edmunds (Bills Tremaine Edmunds brother) and then the trade for MFFF no doubt buried him on the depth chart. He may be worth a risk to resurrect his career. I don’t feel like safety is a position where we have to do anything, so it’s possible we just leave well enough alone and let a guy like Brandon Jones develop.
GO DOLPHINS!!!
Finsmob Unleashed 
Days – Thanks for the great post. Thanks also for sticking with us. The truth is we are a community here, a very diverse community at that, and you couldn’t be more right that many of don’t see eye to eye on many topics. For example, some people here still think this is year 3 of the rebuild when it’s only year 2. Some people think we can slice and dice this team and give up all our draft capital and trade away all our best players as long we get Deshaun Watson. Who cares if we have a worse team than the Texans do? And then there’s politics, where at least we all feel exactly the same. Phew, at least we have that, right? 😛
Lol, nice summary Mike.
LOL
This offseason has already been wild and amazing. Fitz is now supposedly leaning towards retirement and he had a job waiting for him somewhere before Watson, Stafford, and all the other QB drama. Imagine having so many options but suddenly they are almost non-existent before FA even hits.
We really should sell that in a way. Miami is such a wonderful destination, you’d rather retire than leave.
More NFL players in South Florida in the offseason than during it. And that is without counting the former ones.
Good point.
Gotta love Porntatoes
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Tua has the “Eye of the Tiger”.
I don’t think the organization will ever have to worry about his work ethic, or personal ethics, and that fits right in with this regime, imho.
I believe he has “it”, now surround him with weapons and he WILL lead.
100% agreed, Mr. Bookman.
I’m not as sold as you guys. And I watched last season too. My big problem was little connected deep…. and I mean over 15 yards. Putting it down to a rook needing growth, but thought journeyman Fitz just as good overall. Do think based on last year and how he was set up at Bama that he needs those speedster guys who get separation. Not so much a tight window dude.
Totally agreed and if we were to move on from him I think we’ll regret it.
People forget he had to rehab most of last offseason coming off of the hip injury. Now he can train like everyone else this offseason. Big difference. He also has an NFL season under his belt. I expect a much better Tua in 2021. And he wasn’t bad in 2020, he just hit some rookie bumps in the road.
People talk about Burrow and Herbert’s numbers but their teams were not in a playoff race, we were. So there was no reason to pull them when they did struggle. Coach Flo was trying to make the playoffs so if he thought Fitz could come in and help get the win he did it. Different scenarios but most people just focus on stats.
I just saw a mock draft where the Bills took Najee Harris @ R1P30. WOW, that would suck for us. IMO, the Bills would have the Jim Kelly- Thurman Thomas- Andre Reed trifecta reborn as Josh Allen- Najee Harris- Stefon Diggs.
Scary to think about…
And no, I’m not about playing Tic-Tac-Toe with other teams, just to block what they could get. But IMO, I’m beginning to think that Najee should be our R1P18 selection.
That dude can catch like a WR, he can run wild, he’s sizable to be a decent blocker with more training/technique at the pro level, and he’s an Offensive weapon.
Did anybody forget that he’s got ultimate chemistry with one Tua? LOL
I want Najee on our team!
I agree
Like all I hear about Najee and is a need. Lot of mocks have him lower than #18, but wouldn’t cry a river if we took him there at all. Now our first pick in the 2nd or even trading into the late first….would do the happy dance.
We have 2 picks, right now before that, so hopefully we can match that with WR and RB.
Yessir, that would be prudent, IMO.
stangerx says:
March 7, 2021 at 4:54 pm
I’m not as sold as you guys. And I watched last season too. My big problem was little connected deep…. and I mean over 15 yards. Putting it down to a rook needing growth, but thought journeyman Fitz just as good overall. Do think based on last year and how he was set up at Bama that he needs those speedster guys who get separation. Not so much a tight window dude.
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Tua was less than a year removed from a potential career-ending injury when he started for us last year. Then you have the pandemic, where he didn’t even get a true offseason… he was just trying to recover from his gruesome injury, for one.
I think/hope that all of that had a lot to do with his Tua’s lack of success as our starter last year. I mean, he didn’t even have the time to develop chemistry with his receivers last years… not to mention his O-Line, 3 of which were rookies, too.
I hope it doesn’t sound like I’m making excuses for Tua, but I feel it should be a ‘mulligan’ for him, honestly. But I can say, he was 6-3 (quoting from memory) as our starter.
Geez, my typos above are pizzing me off! LOL
But you get the message, I hope.
But let it be known… as I read the tea leafs, I’m thinking we’re going to trade for Deshaun Watson. I’m sharply AGAINST doing as much, but I see it happening.
You bring up great reasons why Tua will do better, but he hasn’t yet. And how can we know he will until he does? Last year saw a game manager out there. A good one but you get the idea.
And YOU bring up great reasons as to why we might not yet trust him. It’s a gamble, bud. Do you believe Tua can become the same guy we saw at Alabama (prior to his significant injury?), or do we go with a sure thing in Watson?
MUCH is at stake, here.
I’d rather continue rebuilding with our massive draft capital, than to part with most of it for Watson.
I’d go with Watson if the price was right, but don’t think it will be. So heck yeah am rooting for Tua to show it.
You reiterated what I said just up the page. 🙂
Najee is like a TE as a receiver. He’s as big as many LBs and bigger than safeties. I think he’s going to be a big time pro. I have no problem taking him at #18. Tua also hit him on some great pass plays at Alabama so there is a connection there.
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Much as we hated Little Nicky Satan for how he left the Phins…. he must be real good at recruiting. Think about our top choices to pair with Tua in this draft.
Just wanted to post this to show how even though some musical artists were known for a certain type of music doesn’t mean they can’t tap into other types of music that they love. This is really good. Star Child from KISS. 🙂
Holy shit !! I never would’ve thought he would do that song , but cool as hell. Good for him.
Music is God.
if we want Najee Harris, WE will likely have to take him before the steelers pick. i cant see the steelers passing on him
Agreed, David… and I said the same back in January.
The disrespect Tua gets from our fanbase is crazy. One guy responded to Tua’s tweet with “How about unleashing multiple 60 yard bombs instead of dinking of dunking”. Do they have any recollection who was on our roster at the end of the season? Sometimes I hate our fans, they have no patience and behave like spoiled little brats.
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DeVante Parker playing at about 30-50%, Lynn Bowden Jr., a rookie in his own right who just got to the team Week 6, Isaiah Ford who was cut twice by us and the Patriots and Mack Hollins. Who was he throwing 60 yard bombs to? We weren’t going to beat them in a shootout, and that’s what that game quickly became when we couldn’t stop them in the 2nd QTR.
Tua hit Grant, Gesicki, Parker and Williams right on the mark down the field multiple times that weren’t caught. I mean right on their hands. Were some defended well? Yes! But that’s all the QB can do is get it there. I have no issues with Tua’s arm strength and accuracy. How many times did we see a receiver “wide open” and he missed? I don’t remember that ever happening.
Life of an NFL QB on social media. Am sure Tom Brady gets death threats.
We have a young and talented OL, can’t we just let these guys develop and add weapons? If Tua has time, a good play action game with a talented RB and WRs we should be set. He is a winner, let’s roll with him!
YES!!!
I know lot of people argue that a dominant OL will make everyone else look better
But that relationship is reciprocal
Having skill players make plays makes everyone’s job easier
I think this is the off-season for that improvement at skill player
I would be surprised if 2 of our first 3 picks are not skill players
agreed, whats the point of protecting Tuas good side with the number 3 pick, Sewell,
when that isnt what needed as much as some explosive playmakers
i agree with ya Mike that patience is in short supply
i know its been a really tough offseason for Tua to have to listen to all the BS that fans spew, and it wouldnt surprise Me if it motivates him more.
i wouldnt even consider giving up until after his rookie contract expires, if a QB has not done anything in 4 years , then he is undeserving of a big raise, and time to move on with someone else at that time
Stanger – I’m not concerned about Tua dealing with the social media nonsense, I’m just saying it drives me crazy the lack of respect and patience I see from our fans. I don’t know why fans expect QB’s to be great right out of the gate. It happens occasionally, but it’s no indication of what happens season 2 or beyond. Some guys that started off good go into the tank, and some of the great ones just always play well. Some QB’s play in better situations than others too.
Just saying don’t let it drive you crazy. And guess I am less on the Tua will be great side than others. Willing to wait though… unless we get say Watson or Wilson behind center. Then I’ll hope for that guy to burn it up.
MIKE E.; NO LACK OF RESPECT for Tua from me. I’m content to NOT enter the Watson Derby. Instead, I want to focus on IMPROVING THE TEAM AROUND TUA so that he can blossom into the player we all want him to be. WATSON had a great year, but his team sucked. If we give up too much to get him, Watson will have the “honor” of playing for ANOTHER team with major short comings.
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TODAY IS HOCKEY DAY IN AMERICA!! And what a day it has been!!!
The Lightning started out sleep walking against an improved Black Hawks team. By early in the second period, the Bolts were behind 3-0 and looked horrible doing it. Then a Chicago player cheap-shotted a Bolts’ player and was thrown out of the GAME!!!
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That cheap shot ignited the sleeping giant! By the end of that period Tampa Bay had rallied to take a 4-3 lead!! And, just to rub Chicago’s nose in it, the Lightning added 2 more third period goals to win going away 6-3. It’s the FIRST TIME I can remember a team being down 3-0 and coming back to DOUBLE THE SCORE on their opponent!
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ANOTHER DAY of outrageously good weather! Highs in the low 70’s after a sunrise temperature of 55!! We’ve over 4 months of mostly sensational weather. And there’s more coming later this week.
We’re so fortunate to live in Florida.
HAPPY HOCKEY DAY IN AMERICA TO ALL OF YOU!
OD — if Watson comes up for action…. I would tell the Texans “here is our first and final bid.” Probably wouldn’t be the winner but why not?
Stanger, because he is a me first guy and that seems to go against what this regime desires in their players
That is a reason not to put in a bid. I go with the Top 5 QB thing on the other side. But good arguments either way.
Somehow my discussion of Tua has not gotten any attention. I must be a patience brigade homer. LOL
I guess I am too then
Seems I am the only one saying “let’s wait and see” about Tua. Everybody else is right with you…. so what is there for them to talk to you about?
You always have to say wait and see with rookies, especially QBs. Let’s not act like Tua was Rosen. 😉
My point is I was saying the same stuff everyone else was saying but nobody replied to me. I was hurt very badly. 😉
the best way for Tua to quiet his critics is have a pro bowl season and take the Dolphins to the Super bowl, lol
Im not betting against Tua, Hes too much of a fighter to not conquer this, and i believe He will be the franchise QB that we want
I agree.
One problem here, David… IF we trade for Deshaun Watson, Tua will not have been given the chance to do what you say.
that is correct MF
I do like Watson, but I feel We have a Watson in the making thats already here, or maybe a Wilson, lol
i dont want to compare the two , without considering We already have Tua, and could trade down to get all kinds of playmakers and finish building the team.
if the Fins had an awesome team, and only needed a QB to complete it, then Yes, I would thing He would be the answer, that certainly isnt US
we all understand this team rebuild is not complete yet, and this years draft and FA is crucial for that goal to be met. a trade for Watson would eat up an enormous amount of draft capital, so the team would not improve immediately, even though the salary cap would go through the roof, damaging the other avenue of the rebuild, FA
its not in the fins best interest to trade for Watson IMO
We are not trading for Deshaun Watson and i really have no idea how it makes sense. I really don’t. Help me.
i just made an argument against trading for Watson, so I cant help You make sense of trading for him, lol
If our team was a QB short ala Chad Pennington then maybe we look. With so many holes/upgrades needed, invested with a promising (not close to sure fire) QB, and lots more talent needed, we need to knock it out of the park this year.
Last year helped. This year we need more. A lousy 2 cent opinion…lol.
lets not forget how fortunate and difficult it was to get Tua, to just toss that away is foolish
the fins had to tank for a year and stockpile draft picks for the future, tank was completed, draft pick acquired, Tua selected, check on all
but the next phase for all that , was to USE those draft picks to finish the rebuild, well, here we are, what to do? stick to the plan, use the picks to finish the rebuild
trading for Watson was never part of the long term plan and goals
You did. Guess i’m too focused on the bs.
YOUNG STANGER: Rather than offer Houston an ultra low-ball offer, I’d prefer to play the hand we decided to play. FLORES decided TUA was the way to go. NOW let’s give TUA a fighting chance to prove he WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE. Give Tua a really top-notch wide receiver. Give Tua a really good running back. Give Tua a certain-to-be-needed at some point REALLY GOOD O-Lineman in addition to the starting 5. And give the Fins’ defense 2-3 more impact players with their remaining draft picks this year and next year.
If we do that, the Fins, with just a bit of good fortune, will improve on their 10-6 record of last year and make the playoffs. The following season (2022), our goal is the Super Bowl.
Stripping us of many of our draft picks (and, maybe, Tua, too) will leave us back where we were when we had Marino. Potentially, Watson’s an All-Pro QB for many years. But he WON’T bring us another title because the rest of our team WON’T BE GOOD ENOUGH!!
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HOCKEY DAY IN AMERICA brought us an unexpected delight: New Jersey’s 1-0 shutout of the Boston Bruins!!! To a Lightning fan, that’s big. It’s kinda like the Fins beating the Jets when the Jets were heavily favored!
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DID MY PATRIOTIC THING and got my tax return done today. I ended up owing $78!! – – – I’ll take it out of the $1400 check when it gets here!
The Old Dolfan is OUT.
I would trade Tua for Watson straight up, but might just be me. And yeah would take more than just that but figure there is a price we’d be willing to pay. Doubt it brings Watson to us but don’t see the harm in putting that out. Fully expect Tua to be our QB next year.
The old fuckers need to stick together. Agree with everything you said until you got into hockey shit. Lmao.
Watson has won what?
Uh…………
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And that will continue to be his legacy and sadly if the Dolphins give it up. I don’t think they will. Too many holes.
To clarify, Watson will not make this team better, imo. And in my opinion, the team needs lots of improvement.
Why is it also so hard to just stay with a plan? Why must we veer off just because a QB became disgruntled in his current situation. I’m sure this plan has been a few years in the making and we finally had a solid winning season. Why flush it down the toilet just because of 1 player who hasn’t won anything yet? Yes, he’s played better than our current QB but our current QB may be much better next season and so can the rest of the team with the free agency and all our draft capital. Stay the course, and full speed ahead!
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agreed Mike, the plan was good, and so far so good with it, the best course is to finish what we planned.
the fins are in great shape, a young franchise QB in the fold already, an improving defense, all we need is to finish the plan, by bringing in needed players with all that draft capitol We traded for
we got lucky the texans sucked last year, that number 3 pick is looking awesome, and its so valuable that we could trade it down and get even more picks.
Tua won more games last year than Watson , if We are using the games won measure
obviously We cant use that, Texans will not give us Watson for Tua, plus a bunch of picks
watson contract has him making 15 million this season, and 40 million next season, SMH
that 40 million wont work, Watson isnt so great he can do everything by himself, look at last year,
He did NOT do it all by himself
Interesting
“This is the kind of pre-draft season it’s been: There’s a first-round pass-rush prospect from the University of Miami named Gregory Rousseau. High school wideout/safety. College history, checkered. Year one: Played a few snaps as a freshman, got hurt, redshirted. Year two: ACC Defensive Rookie of the Year with 15.5 sacks. Year three: Opted out because of COVID concerns. Basically, four months of college game experience. No NFL Scouting Combine to probe him physically and mentally. No in-person visits with teams; Zoom meetings only. Rousseau is 20 years old.”
all the more reason to trade down the number 3 pick, we could get Rosseau, no team has enough pass rushers
More
“Best position in the draft: Wide receiver (again). In the last two drafts, teams have picked a total of 30 wideouts in the first three rounds. This year, Jeremiah has 19 receivers with grades in the top three rounds. When you see the recent draft depth of the position—third-round wideouts from the last three years: Terry McLaurin, Michael Gallup, Tre’Quan Smith, Diontae Johnson—I begin to think NFL teams should start treating the receiver position like running backs. Don’t waste a high pick on one; you can get a good one in the seventies, eighties, nineties overall.
“It’s almost the same every year now, Jeremiah said. “Last year, I had a record number of guys with top-three-round grades [27]. Not as much this year, but so many good options in the second, third, fourth rounds.” Most draft boards will have LSU’s Ja’Marr Chase and Alabama’s DeVonta Smith and Jaylen Waddle among the top 12 picks. Kadarius Toney of Florida is Jeremiah’s fourth first-round wideout, but his favorite wideout at a bargain price (mid-round two) is Mississippi’s Elijah Moore: “There were games that nobody could cover him.””
All the more reason to trade down. Why draft Chase or Smith at 3, when you could have one of the top 3 or Pitts at 6, 8 or 9, plus a 1st next year and another 2nd this year?
If we get another 2nd, that may also slide a DE up to us at 36, then someone like Williams could be had with the extra extra 2nd
That is correct! Someone posted the highlights on Elijah Moore not long ago. I like him a lot. He would be a very good slot WR for us. Their are about 9 others I like in the 2-4 round range:
Dyami Brown
D’Wayne Eskridge
Tylan Wallace
Amari Rodgers
Dazz Newsome
Ihmir Smith-Marsette
Whop Philyor
Anthony Schwartz
Marquez Stevenson
Oh, I said 2nd round so add Terrace Marshall and Rondale Moore to that list.
Phelon,
I agree you can get a great WR later but, thankfully for them, they still impact the game so much more than RBs, and last so much longer too. Having that one amazing WR has helped turn average guys like Dalton and Ryan into playoff contenders
Don’t know who this guy is but I would take his first two rounds. Not sure about him not addressing pass rush.
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/miami-dolphins-7-round-2021-nfl-mock-draft-march
Chase and Williams would make me happy
I like the 1st 3 picks along, but don’t know anything about the rest.
This guy picking makes it sound like the end all be all of drafts, so he fits right in with the rest of the U75s
Here is a huge RB no one has talked about. Rhamondre Stevenson from Oklahoma. He is a 6’0 246 pound load. Could get him late or UDFA.
Your daily dose
Mike E. says:
March 7, 2021 at 10:02 pm
Why is it also so hard to just stay with a plan?
That’s how business works. You have to keep evaluating and changing. What was good yesterday may not be good today, but I don’t want any part of Watson.
He’s the kind of QB, that will drive you nuts with his potential, then not deliver
You keep evaluating, but making a move to acquire Watson totally blows up any previous plan you had and necessitates a brand new one. We’re talking two different things here.
Lots of people are high on our draft prospects, because of the extra high picks, so why not trade down and get a few more?
Flores has shown what he can do with the young guys, because of his bark.
When was the last time we had an intimidating coach, besides maybe Saban? Shula, that’s right, he scared the piss out of the players to keep them motivated
Not trying to get political so no need to respond in that way. This dude just cracks me up.
LOL
We’ve heard, what about the players that opted out due to covid, but what about the players that played and had breakout years?
Devonta Smith, Mac Jones, and Zach Wilson come to mind. Are these types of guys really that good. BYU played a div2 type schedule, so that had more to do with Wilson’s inflated numbers, than anything else. Alabama was well prepared, so that helped, but they really weren’t challenged much
If you do away with the human race then you will have no more racism. LOL
Candy and nuts
Fansided has moved Parsons back in at 3 in their recent mock.
With all the legit options at 3 why stay there?
We could take Chase, Smith, Parsons, Penei, or Pitts at 3 and be happy, but wouldn’t you rather be more than happy🤪
Fansided is snorting mescaline, lol no way Parsons should or will go at 3 IMO
Overreaction to KVN, in other words a true amateur move
In 2016 we drafted Tunsil and Howard. Hard to believe we could draft 2 better players this year, altjough it does give Merit to staying at 3 or keep the perpetual pick for Tunsil alive by getting a 2022 1st
The implication certainly seemed to be Van Noy wondering how it was that New Orleans was able to keep both players while the Dolphins weren’t able to do the same with him.
Well, the Dolphins’ decision obviously speaks to how they viewed Van Noy compared to how the Saints viewed their two players. It’s also fair to mention that Jordan is a six-time Pro Bowl selection and Davis was an All-Pro in 2019. Van Noy, while being a solid player, has never earned any postseason accolade in seven NFL seasons.
A little evidence to show KVN wasn’t a cap casualty
Remember when …
– starting a rookie QB “too soon” was considered reckless, not just by the teams but also by most fans.
But now …
– rookie QBs are starting to be ‘flash-evaluated’ on first year results.
I don’t think football philosophy has changed as much as the pressure from ‘immediate gratification’ fan bases. That’s all I have for today. 😀
Agreed! I don’t either
It’s easier to start as a rookie today, than it was back in the 80s or even 90s, because you can’t hit the QB, you can’t hit the receivers, they call D holding now, and you have more running QBs, that can get by with their feet, instead of taking the time to learn how to read a D.
Imagine what Marino would have done with the new flag football rules in the secondary. He shredded the league in his first years without them.
“Whispers suggest mutual interest between Jones and the Dolphins, with Miami looming as one of the few teams with ample cap space. Myles Gaskin and Salvon Ahmed had their moments, but Jones would add a big-play, tackle-shedding star behind second-year passer Tua Tagovailoa. The question is whether Miami’s inventive, forward-thinking front office believes in paying a running back (basically the least-coolest concept in today’s NFL) over grabbing help in the draft.”
— Marc Sessler, NFL.com
You can make the argument they have struck out equally as well in free agency (Jordan Howard) as they have in the draft (Kalen Ballage). They did hit with Gaskin in RD 7 and did OK with undrafted FA’s like Ahmed.
LOL….. our Barry Sanders is out there somewhere.
Like I’ve said before I’m just going to roll with what we do because I have nothing to do it with anyway. LOL
I just want to see us become a contender however we put it together.
None of us have anything to do with it…. but sure is nice to say you called it right afterwards. And Aaron Jones is a stud. Also think would be well matched with our O. But then there is the price.
If Jones produces then the price doesn’t matter. The guy surely earned it.
Steve – It’s easier to start as a rookie and it’s even easier to start for a team with a great offense. Mahomes didn’t start right away, but when he did, he had a full complement of offensive weapons. That doesn’t hurt . . .
That’s almost how I think of Zach Wilson playing that div2 schedule last year. Not sure he’s the real deal, he looked bad in 2019
We haven’t spent a 1st RD pick on a RB since Ronnie Brown, Of course there was DT3 in RD 2. Ugh!
Let’s keep the streak alive
I’d rather draft a RB in RD1 than pay $60M for one for 4 years
Very well might spend #18 on one, but probably more likely at one of the takes in the 2nd round. If we don’t sign Aaron Jones that is. 🙂
Some good Mt. Kindley stuff
Helps if you attach the link.
https://www.miamidolphins.com/news/the-blitz-the-big-fish
Nice…..what about Hunt and Jackson? Lol….
I would rather spend the money on the GB Center than the GB RB
I would too, but I’d rather draft both positions, and we can
I’d take either of them. And the C would have a longer shelf life.
Do what you want with 3 but best be right.
Najee at 18 is better than Jones, imo, and stays the course. I’m not sure I would swing at anyone else.
According to Barry Jackson, “If Watson becomes available, the Dolphins plan to pursue it.”
Of course . . .
CHRIS GRIER: Hey so what are you looking for, what will it take to get Deshaun?
TEXANS: Both 2021 1st RD picks, your 2022 1st RD pick, 2023 1st RD pick, Xavien Howard
CHRIS GRIER: OK, thanks for the info, GOOD LUCK!!!
Would be way too much for sure. But our first 2 picks this year with maybe one of the 2nds thrown in…. different story.
Mike, I would too, but we won’t have any draft capital left after trading for Watson…..lol, just kidding.
Well, that would be totally true if we did, and we certainly couldn’t sign either GB guy if we did that.
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$75M in year one?!! WOW!!!
Stang, of course the Fins will pursue Watson. Just because fans are clueless doesn’t mean our FO is. It’ll come down to what it costs. The Fins will have a certain price they won’t go over, and when it hits that price, we’ll bow out. If Watson does become available, I think the number of teams after him will force us out early because we won’t give up five 1st rd picks and Howard for him, lol.
Howard straight up is better than Watson, they should give us the 5 1sts
Yeah, brilliant.
I like him a lot, but I’d take 5 1sts for Howard.
Is that the guy who had a terrible work ethic and was a complete bust for the Titans?
It must be if it was last year’s 1st rd pick.
Correct.
He had a dui in his rookie year
Not a bad move… if Wilson can get his act together.
Hopefully he got the partying (or whatever caused him to fail) out of his system and he realizes this might be his last chance to have a career in the NFL.
Agreed, CavKong. He and Flores know one another, so that’s a plus. I don’t think Flores would green-light this move unless he feels the worst is behind Wilson.
We swapped our 2021 7th rounder for the Titans 2022 7th rounder for Wilson
Dude is just a year removed from being an first round offensive tackle
The Titans really wanted to get rid of him
What a horrible pick for them
He only played 4 snaps last year- 3 victory formations and an extra point, lol. Obviously he has talent to go in rd 1, but must have had a number of issues to not get any real snaps.
Doesn’t cost us anything to give him a shot. In the past, we’d see the Pets make this move, and be pissed knowing they got a 1st rd talent for nothing, and he’d suddenly be a stud. Hopefully we can say the same.
Thanks for posting, Pig. I didn’t recall if he was a natty LT or RT… he’s the latter.
Worth the risk as far as I am concerned
2nd chance
So for whatever it may be worth, we now have 4 (FOUR!) 2020 1st rounders on our roster. That’s pretty crazy when ya think about it… and we still have more than a month to go before the next Draft.
And after this year’s Draft (as it currently stands, we may trade down), we’ll have added two more 1st rounders. Can any team in history say they’ve had SIX first-round picks within a 1-year span? I highly doubt it.
former first round pick tackle? wow, he must have really sucked up the joint in Tennessee
the fact he got so few snaps means the coaches didnt want him on the field, he must have been in the coaches dog house because of his partying.
im encouraged that Flo knows the guy and wants to give him a chance, if this works out, its like getting a high draft pick talent for next to nothing.
low risk, high reward possible, good move
hmmmmmmm
won’t let me post links to Twitter post. Must be in moderation. Oh well, you guys saw it already if you read the link Phelon posted.
Cool tweet about him becoming the favorite lineman to watch.
Wilson also attended Georgia with Dolphins guard Solomon Kindley.
The first incident came when Tennessee State police broke up an off-campus party that Wilson had attended during training camp. In their report, the police documented that Wilson went to the second-floor balcony, where he appeared to briefly consider jumping. He received a trespass warning.
The second incident occurred when Wilson was arrested and charged with a DUI in September when he lost control of his vehicle and struck a concrete wall.
Wilson played at Poly Prep Country Day School in Brooklyn, where Dolphins coach Brian Flores attended high school.
If we’re not going to re-sign Mongo’s nephew (Ted Karras), then sign Corey Linsley (Center, Packers), and our O-Line is going to be ‘NICETY’.
AFTERWHICH, there’s no reason to sign a vet RB to BIG $$$. Just draft Najee Harris and watch us win games.
wilson is HUGE< 6'7' 355 pounds
his scouting report says he can dominate at run blocking, and strong on pass protection,
he was projected to be a day one starter as a rookie at RT, and future pro bowler
Does the Wilson trade make a Sewell pick less likely?
I’d say it does.
IMO, YES… much less likely.
i think so, how could it not
I can’t believe Jerry paid that much right after Dak tore up his ankle. I can’t believe he’s actually a smart businessman in other venues. Wilson was a great deal! We switch 7ths for obvious talent. If he doesn’t pan out, we really wasted nothing. He’s basically a free pick at that level of compensation. I’d also rather use #18 on Najee than pay a lot of money for someone else’s used RB.
Watson…Just Say No!
Sometimes is more about luck than brains
Business ^
Yeah, especially in oil I’d say.
^
Right there with ya, New Age!
i doubt Wilson can keep 355-360 on in Miami. he will likely trim down to 340 or so, working out in the heat will take some of that off, lol
this could be an answer at RT, if Flo can keep him focused on football instead of drinking and partying
I love the trade. Hopefully Kindley can have a good influence on him and help him assimilate into the “Dolphin way” being former team mates.
Push a 7th round pick to next year for a first round talent? Winning.
agreed
The only thing is Sewell is such a highly regarded talent and Wilson is something of a flyer. I think this means we were never going to take Sewell
i agree, dont think Sewell was on the board
Kindley and Wilson blocked for Deandre Swift, who had 2885 rushing yards, 666 receiving , and 25 Touchdowns
this clears the way to get some WR and RB early
Jamar Chase, Waddle , or Smith at WR, and Harris or Etiennne at rb
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The Deshaun deal will happen on draft night if it happens at all. If we make a selection at 3 it ain’t happening. If we trade back and get a future first that’s when it might happen. We trade back to 6 or 8 and give the Texans 8,18 that newly acquired’22 first and Tua.
They get 3 firsts and Tua and it only cost us 2 really. Maybe some other picks are thrown in there as well.
I don’t see X as being part of this deal, it’s not necessary. Why would Houston want to pay one of the highest CB salaries during a rebuild?
That makes a lot more sense than most of what I’ve seen the past few weeks.
3: R1 P3 WR Ja’Marr Chase – LSU
18: R1 P18 DL Christian Barmore – Alabama
36: R2 P4 RB Najee Harris – Alabama
50: R2 P18 LB Zaven Collins – Tulsa
81: R3 P17 EDGE Quincy Roche – Miami
123: R4 P18 S James Wiggins – Cincinnati
202: R6 P16 C Trey Hill – Georgia
256: R7 P30 WR Trevon Grimes – Florida
No more 7th.
Correct, this mocks sucks then
That will work, because we got Collins
I tried posting about the Wilson trade for the last hour but it wouldn’t go through for some reason. Taking a chance on a questionable player and a 1st round pick last year on the cheap. The Pats do this all the time.
I’m a little bit country and I’m a little bit rocknroll 😎
LOL
mf13ss says:
March 8, 2021 at 8:20 pm
And after this year’s Draft (as it currently stands, we may trade down), we’ll have added two more 1st rounders. Can any team in history say they’ve had SIX first-round picks within a 1-year span? I highly doubt it.
No, but in Shula’s last year we had lots of former 1st rounders
I liked Wilson a lot coming out of last year’s draft. Flores for sure can handle him, but he has to want to still play football.
Can’t hurt to take a look
Wilson needs some work, but we really have a year to evaluate him, since the OL is set, except C.
We likely won’t resign Flowers after 2022, so that gives us last year’s 4 rookies, if Wilson makes it. Imagine 4/5 of line hitting FA at the same time.
We could have 2 of them on 5th years though
I wonder if Flowers may be the next to be cut. With the salary cap not expanding this year — and some say it won’t next year, either — perhaps he’s the next to be cut.
Lots of talk about players will be needing to find a new home, and for cheap as a result. We’ll see…
Very possible with Kindley and Hunt at guard.
That’s my thinking as well, Tim.
You gotta use the cabeza, LOL🤪
You can’t just pull shit out of..
Go to over the cap and see what the dead money is, it would cost another M to cut him
maybe Flo will run some short yardage plays for Wilson, it would be tough to stop a guy that weighs over 350. the modern day refrigerator
We’re probably just taking a flyer on Wilson. I can’t remember who we signed last year or the year before but we all started penciling that guy into the lineup and then we released that player shortly after. It’s certainly worth taking a shot, and maybe he sticks, but we do tend to get a little ahead of ourselves here. lol
It’s a big time flyer, he has to prove he’s a professional, prove he can learn the offense and prove he’s past the days of the party.
He’s liable to be on the Practice Squad.
He also could be a starter if he in fact does get his shit together.
He’s been given a second chance. It’s all on him, for sure. Would love to see it work out well for both.
Sonny – Absolutely on all counts
Wilsons a great slot guy!
Lol
I don’t recall any penciling him in. The posts I do remember were similar to these.
Did I miss something
When you start talking about cutting other players on the line, it may not necessarily be penciling him in but it’s pretty close.
We actually didn’t give up anything for Wilson since we got a Titan’s 2022 7th round pick in the deal also.
7th rnd pick in this years draft is worth more than a 7th in next years. so we did give up a little.
A 7th in 2021 is usually worth a 6th in 2022 as I remember
But we got a 7th in 2022 plus a former 1st round OT
I suspect Tennessee was going to waive him bc that’s very little compensation
to bad we didnt send Tua to the titans and swap 7th rnders!
good thing You arent the FO< lol thats a seriously bad deal
With the exception of the remote chance we were looking at Sewell before the trade, any OT we took would probably have been day 3 type anyway. In other words a flyer.
We just are gambling on a guy with bigger upside but an incredibly horrific start to his career
You can’t make up how bad his start was with the Titans. From 1st round pick to 2 criminal incidents….yikes. Let’s hope it’s behind him. Not sure how some one can go from a major program like Georgia to the Tasmanian devil overnight – would be nice to know if there was some history at GA when he was there
Congrats on the cowboys on solidifying 8-8 fir the next few years
Lmao at the jests franchising Marcus Maybe
Prediction, If the 49er’s make a move on a QB, Jimmy G will end up in NE. Heard rumblings that they may trade for Darnold or sign the likes of Bridgewater or Newton. They could also sign Fitz and draft a rookie like we did. Going to get real interesting with the QB situation in this league. NE will always be in a win mow mode as long as Belicheat is there and he is still chasing Shula’s record. Will take him to long with a rookie unless they draft Mac Jones.
i think Fitz is done, he will retire IMO
About Wilson after he was drafted
he is a dominant run blocker, the Fins have not run the ball enough
its great to kick the tires and see if this big guy can help the team,
the seventh round swaps are miniscule compensation for a former first round pick
Sounds like he was always going to be a work in progress, and the Titans didn’t progress him, then he probably got frustrated and had off field issues.
No preseason last year for a guy like him, just made things worse. Titans drafted him too early, but for his potential.
He’s now got a strike, but since he’s still a work in progress nothing really has changed, from a year ago, except maybe his maturity level
Right – I got the sense that he played on the other side of a blue chip Ot in college, was very impressive to scouts, but needed time to develop
And then the Titans didn’t want to give him the time they original thought they would give him bc of the off the field stuff
Part of my point was it was a bad project year
Some people are self motivated, those that aren’t weren’t given a fair chance last year. Easy to see, by what was written about Wilson, that he fits this scenario.
When you see his picture without pads, he’s not a Doughboy, for being such a large man. Quite impressive
i think Fitz is done, he will retire IMO
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https://www.nfl.com/news/ryan-fitzpatrick-intends-to-play-in-2021-despite-retirement-rumblings
He mentioned his kids and wife in one of the articles, talking about a family decision.
So I tend to agree, once you start talking retirement, you’re basically retired.
This way he can go out after a good year and can still walk
Long live the beard
What I think should happen and what will happen is we trade down, get a 2021 2nd and a 2022 1st.
With the 5 picks in the first 2 rounds I want WR, LB, RB, DE, S. Order doesn’t really matter though I’d prefer the order above switching maybe DE with RB depending on who is still on the board.
Chase, Smith, Waddle
Parsons, Owusu, Collins
DE haven’t checked yet on the prospects
Najee, Etienne, Williams, Carter
S no idea who is out there
Someone here can probably fill in the DEs and S, but getting these top 5 wants filled with those above will make us a contender
I’m all for trading down/forward and that 2021 2nd and a 2022 1st is what the value would be for #18. For #3 is even more, especially if a QB bidding war breaks out.
I set it low, because getting those picks are good enough and because we could be trading with Atlanta too, where the comp will be lower
TEAM PICKS
10: R1 P10 WR DeVonta Smith – Alabama
18: R1 P18 LB Zaven Collins – Tulsa
36: R2 P4 DL Gregory Rousseau – Miami
50: R2 P18 WR Rashod Bateman – Minnesota
81: R3 P17 C Josh Myers – Ohio State
99: R3 P35 RB Michael Carter – North Carolina
123: R4 P18 S Andre Cisco – Syracuse
154: R5 P9 EDGE Quincy Roche – Miami
202: R6 P16 FB Ben Mason – Michigan
TRADES
Trade Partner: Dallas Cowboys
Sent:
Round 1 Pick 3
Received:
Round 1 Pick 10
Future Round 1 Pick
Round 3 Pick 35
Round 5 Pick 9
I felt Meh after this one for some reason.
I don’t know the S, but it checks off all my boxes
You don’t know the Cisco Kid?
Was he a friend of yours
That trade comp seems weak to move down to 10. Maybe the other trading pants mocks looked so much better, because they went from 3 to 6 to 8 to 10
I take Ben Mason from Michigan in the 6th round EVERY mock. He is a baller.
Maybe it’s time to add a pure fb
Wilson was a really good pickup. With coach Flo I think he can get him motivated and if he can’t, that’s not an expensive investment with very high returns if things go well.
Falls in the “worth a shot” category. Big fall from last year’s first round though. Assuming the reasons include what they saw on the field. Not like he shot someone.
Well D, good to hear, you should know, if anyone does here, so I’ll put a little more stock into your opinion on Wilson
Steve – As a matter of fact he was. We ate the peanuts from the can
Did you drink whiskey or wine
Both!
After KVN the only other cuts I see are tit for tat ones like McCain or Rowe. I only see them cutting them, if they’re going to replace them with another safety.
Wilson we’d only save 2.85m, so what’s the point?
Grant would save 2.9m
I present to you for your ridicule my
“Hey guys, has anyone seen my phone? No, really I am sure there are teams trying to call for trades. This isn’t funny! Where the F is my Freakin phone!?” no trades mock draft:
TEAM PICKS
3: R1 P3 WR Ja’Marr Chase – LSU
18: R1 P18 EDGE Kwity Paye – Michigan
36: R2 P4 RB Travis Etienne – Clemson
50: R2 P18 LB Zaven Collins – Tulsa
81: R3 P17 C Josh Myers – Ohio State
123: R4 P18 S Marcus Murphy – Mississippi State
202: R6 P16 FB Ben Mason – Michigan
I think I should have taken Rousseau over Kwity Paye (he was still on the board). I don’t like taking a guy with “Quit” in his name.
Dey turn off my lectric cause I kwity paye.
David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
March 9, 2021 at 8:10 am
good thing You arent the FO< lol thats a seriously bad deal
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i think you're right for once David, if the Titans were stupid enough to take that deal i doubt they would ever consider trading with us again.
I heard Rousseau is the most likely to Bust in the 1st rnd
We not only traded for Wilson, his contract was also part of the deal. No problem at all so long as he is on the active roster….. even if he doesn’t start.
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2021: $1,135,836
2022: $1,661,672
2023: $2,187,508
Of those salary cap hits, Wilson’s 2021 & 2022 salaries are fully guaranteed. $1.09M of his 2023 salary is also guaranteed; meaning Miami is on the hook for a grand total of $5,384,606 in salary over the next three years (with just under $4M of that as guaranteed money.
As it always is, but I look at it as a positive. Those numbers are low, but only if he makes it thru camp
He doesn’t make it through camp costs us that $4 mil, which ain’t all that cheap. But my guess is since they are paying all guaranteed for 2 years that he is gonna have to do something real horrendous to get cut. Even if he is on the practice squad and they are begging that someone grabs him.
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