Dolphins very active before the 2021 NFL Draft

The first big mover was actually a subtraction from the roster as the Dolphins parted ways with LB Kyle Van Noy after recently (last season) signing him to a 4YR/$51M deal. That move was followed by the eventual trade between the Dolphins and the Texans which sent DE Shaq Lawson to HOU for ILB Benardrick McKinney. The Dolphins gave the Texans our 6th RD 2021 pick in exchange for their 2021 7th RD pick. Lawson played both OLB and DE for the Dolphins last season but never really hit his stride in our defense. Van Noy was brought here for his leadership and his playmaking, but the surprising rise of OLB Andrew Van Ginkel helped make Van Noy expendable. While AVG played mostly weak side and and Van Noy played primarily strong, both were interchangeable. I’m guessing the new #55 will undergo a uniform number change as the Eagles would say Ol’ 55, Jerome Baker owns that number. McKinney will definitely solidify the middle next to Baker and and the bigger (6’4 260) McKinney brings more physicality there while Baker brings the sideline to sideline quickness and speed.

In addition to McKinney, the Dolphins further solidified the run defense with the addition of DT Adam Butler. Butler was a rotational guy on the Patriots defensive line with only 12 starts in 4 seasons but he played in all but one game, and he averaged about 45% of the defensive snaps, so he had a good amount of playing time. He’s a DT that gets good penetration, with 20 tackles for loss, 15 sacks and 22 QB hits over parts of 4 NFL seasons. Unfortunately for former Dolphins DT Davon Godchaux, that most likely seals his fate and he most likely will not be returning here. (Update!) Godchaux has signed a 2 year deal with the Patriots, thanks to a couple of FMU NFL insiders.

On the offensive side of the ball, the Dolphins signed RB Malcolm Brown from the LA Rams. Brown while never a premier ballcarrier or workhorse, he brings a more physical running style than what we currently have in Myles Gaskin, Salvon Ahmed and Patrick Laird. Brown was basically the 3rd cog in the Rams run game behind Cam Akers and Darrell Henderson. Brown had a career high 419 yards on 101 carries with a 4.1YPC. He also caught 23 balls for 162 yards and had 5 rushing TD’s. I believe this still leaves the door wide open to draft a RB, even an early pick as I think we still need a talent upgrade there. The Dolphins just recently signed former Texans WR Will Fuller to a 1 year deal. Honestly, I never wanted any part of Fuller because although he has the speed we need, he’s a guy that has a tough time staying on the field, and considering the fact that we already have that in DeVante Parker, that doesn’t give our young QB any kind of stability when guys are constantly missing time. In any case, the Dolphins do get a guy who averages on the high end of YPR (14.9) overall but a career high 16.7YPR last season along with 8 TD’s. Also keep in mind that both Allen Hurns and Albert Wilson are set to return this season after opting out due to COVID last season. Wilson and Hurns together count less than $8M against the cap so don’t count them out just yet.

We didn’t get Joe Thuney, David Andrews or even re-sign Ted Karras, so the Dolphins decided to gamble on former ravens C Matt Skura. Much like Fuller was to me, Skura wasn’t really on my radar. Skura was a 4 year started for a stout Ravens O-line, but he has had injury issues, most recently having a devastating injury 11/19 in which he tore just about anything and everything in his knee including his ACL/PCL/MCL and dislocating his knee cap. To Skura’s credit, he toughed it out last season starting 12 games and playing in 15. As to whether he’s an upgrade over Ted Karras remains to be seen, but Skura was definitely the less expensive option. It’s once again, possible we draft a center with Creed Humphrey, Landon Dickerson Josh Myers, and Trey Smith available. Dickerson and Humphrey could go as early as 2nd RD but the others should be available in the middle rounds.

There are rumors still swirling linking former Seahawks RB Chris Carson and the Dolphins. While I have no problem with bringing in Carson, in my mind at least it would have made the signing of Malcolm Brown unnecessary, but Brown at $1.75M hardly breaks the bank. If we do get Chris Carson, that would almost certainly turn our attention away from drafting a RB early in this draft, meaning no Najee Harris, Javonte Williams or Travis Etienne.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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2,263 Responses to Dolphins very active before the 2021 NFL Draft

  1. Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

    The Fins 2nd trade with Eagles has all but buried the 49ers part of the story (on NFL network).

  2. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    MF:
    I am stuck in virtual meetings all day so no idea what the wind is doing

  3. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    M – It’s delightful here in Joisey! Windy, feels like I’m at the Jersey shore. Loving it, reminds me also of being at a Fest in Hollywood FL, too bad all you fuckers ain’t here with me. 🙂

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Good! Just beware the potential incoming. It’s calmed down here a bit over the last half an hour, but it’s coming your way. I always try to alert y’all to some incoming. Hopefully, it will be nothing by the time it arrives to you.

  4. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    So none of our local beat reporters knew anything about trade talks before

    No rumors….nothing….

  5. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Super windy here and moving down from #3 to #6 while gaining a 3rd, 5th and a 2023 1st is winning.🙂

  6. Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

    If Flores learned his ‘philosophy’ during his years in NE 2004-2018 … with all those successful teams… I was curious how their 1st rd picks were used (or their highest pick when they had two 1st rounders)…

    13 picks total:
    DT – 3
    DE – 1
    LB – 2
    CB/S – 2
    OL – 3
    TE – 1
    RB – 2 (late in 1st)
    1st round 7 of 13 on trenches

    Flores experience in NE did not prioritize offensive skill positions, especially WR. That one TE was Ben Watson with #32 pick. lol
    Neither protecting Tua OR pressuring the opposing QB is addressed by drafting WR at #6 or #18.

    Just trying to think what Flores’ experience has shown him how to win championships. WR in FA is what he learned and Fuller provided. Not what WE would do, what is HE thinking.

    Just put down my once and for all prediction based on this approach:
    #6 Parsons
    #18 Kwity Paye

    (OL Dickerson now being projected as high as #24, so maybe OL is option if Paye is gone… if QB-C chemistry is important then you can’t really overdraft him here…,)

    2nd round could go a number of ways, of course…
    so if stand pat with #36 and #50 the targets will be Davis OG (I think they’d like to cut Flowers), Javonte Williams, Terrace Marshall (if they even consider WR in 2nd rd).
    Offseason before Tua’s first year was spent rehabbing not prepping for the season. So Flores/Grier won’t panic about WR. Only Twice in 14 years at NE did they even draft a WR in 2nd rd (#36 and #59), and of course Never in the first.

    The pundit world will lose its collective mind (as I am sure I am about to feel some of it soon), but Flores will possess a defense that can shut down Mahomes and Allen. Flores does not strike me as a guy who gets overly impressed with WRs that they merit first round selections.
    Flores was hired BECAUSE of what he learned in NE. What makes us think that he’ll abandon that OR let ownership talk him out of what he wants. I think Grier wants to “buy the groceries Flores asks for”.
    Parsons, Paye, Williams I can see being available at each of those top 3 picks we have.

    There it is. I’m on the record and ready for the berating. lol

    • Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

      2020 Fins 1-3 vs teams with records above .500, 9-3 vs .500 and lower.

      Flores is looking at that 1-3 and “how do we beat them” cuz were supposed to beat the .500 and lower teams.

      We are still a year away from the luxury of high picks on skill positions.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Interesting info, Rhino. One thing this FO has done well is to disguise their intentions. Most of the blog, myself included, expect an offensive weapon, but if they surprise us all ( most 😉 ) and go Parsons or another defender, that actually wouldn’t surprise me at all, lol.

  7. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    And this is why dogs are so cool.
    ————————–
    Haley Moore was walking her dog, Clover, through her neighborhood in Sittsville, Ottawa, last week when she passed out and began seizing. A neighbor’s security footage, obtained by CTV, shows Haley collapsing on the side of the road and Clover immediately jumping into action.

    In the video, the pup jumped into the middle of the road and flagged down Dryden Oatway, who was driving his van down the street. “It was really impressive, the dog actually blocked my way. She kind of backed into the road to block my truck,” Oatway told CTV.

    Not long after, Clover was able to track down another passerby to help.

    Clover then went to track down the rest of Haley’s family to alert them of the situation.

  8. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    M13, what was that you said about maximizing the draft?👍

  9. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    All these trades are great if we choose the right players that help us get to the next level. Right now it’s just a lot of machinations.

  10. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    : R1 P6 TE Kyle Pitts – Florida
    18: R1 P18 EDGE Joseph Ossai – Texas
    36: R2 P4 RB Javonte Williams – North Carolina
    50: R2 P18 WR Tylan Wallace – Oklahoma State
    81: R3 P17 DL Alim McNeill – North Carolina State
    102: R3 P38 C Josh Myers – Ohio State
    156: R5 P12 QB Sam Ehlinger – Texas
    231: R7 P3 CB Ambry Thomas – Michigan
    258: R7 P30 S Shawn Davis – Florida

  11. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Grier really outdid himself today. Fantastic trades. We got out of #3 where we didn’t want to pick and hit the sweetest spot in the draft for teams not wanting QB. Sewell is a Bengal after the draft. No way on Earth the Bengals will let Burrow get injured again without at least showing they tried to protect him.

    Elite options at #6 with the option to trade down just a bit more if wanted. If there’s a specific player we wanted, not named Sewell, high percent chance he’s there. I’m thinking Pitts or Chase now.

    I also like to consider this one big trade since we had a goal and obtained it. Moving three spots for an extra 3rd and a 2023 1st seems pretty decent. We have a lot of early picks this year. This team is ready for the next step.

  12. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    I bet Grier has coveted pick #6 all offseason. It’s the perfect place this draft. He finally had ammo for the trade and was willing to give too much to get in the sweet spot.

  13. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Man, this has been one crazy week!!!!!!!!!

    Went to Memphis for father-in-law’s funeral. Drug addict brother-in-law was already there. He got his stimulus and unemployment checks then got a cheap flight to St. Louis. Then he got a 2 day rental car and drove to Memphis. Fast forward 4 days later (this past Tuesday), we were on our way to Memphis and he calls us to check up on him cause we reserved a room for him for Tues and Wed night and also giving him his check for finalizing the estate. Funeral was Wed. We checked into our room about 6pm and called him 5 times with no luck and worried that he overdosed. About 10pm that night he called for jail. Apparently he was shoplifting from several stores in the area. Two of them reported him and the vehicle he was driving and he got swarmed by the cops. The SOB was getting a check and he still had to go shoplift. Not the end of it. Turns out, he never turned in the rental car and the company reported it stolen and on top of that he had a bunch of meth and needles in the vehicle. So he misses his father’s funeral and still sits in jail on a 100K bond. We told him, “Good luck!”

    Next day, after the funeral, we gather at a restaurant to have drinks and food with family and friends. At midnight, we get a call from my wife’s best friend. She got arrested for DUI.

    Next day, driving back to FL, we are in the worst weather ever. Rolling through Birmingham our phones were blaring alerts of a tornado on the ground. Wind was whipping and traffic was crawling on I-65. Apparently, the tornado crossed I-65 a few miles in front of us. We had to swerve around roofing material in the road.

    Now, today, I am going on this pre-draft trade roller coaster.

    WTF is going on? lol

  14. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Tim, reply to you above (in Old Dolfan fashion)! Thank you!

  15. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    March 26, 2021 at 6:09 pm
    : R1 P6 TE Kyle Pitts – Florida
    18: R1 P18 EDGE Joseph Ossai – Texas
    36: R2 P4 RB Javonte Williams – North Carolina
    50: R2 P18 WR Tylan Wallace – Oklahoma State
    81: R3 P17 DL Alim McNeill – North Carolina State
    102: R3 P38 C Josh Myers – Ohio State
    156: R5 P12 QB Sam Ehlinger – Texas
    231: R7 P3 CB Ambry Thomas – Michigan
    258: R7 P30 S Shawn Davis – Florida
    —————–
    I’d really like this!

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Everytime I get to 18 I have to reach a little

      It was either Ossai or Harris and I banked on Williams being there in the 2nd round

  16. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    When Phish heard about the trade

  17. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    When Phindog heard about the trades

  18. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Pitts at sitts

  19. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

  20. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I can’t see them drafting Pitts. It makes no sense. He’s a carbon copy of Gesicki. Now, he may end up being better, but do you really spend a very high 1st round pick on a position/guy you already have? Especially with multiple needs in other areas? Plus, it’s frickin’ TE. No thanks spending a high draft pick on a TE.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I think he’s more versatile than gesicki

      But we really don’t use gesicki enough as is

      If drafted, it’s to play two tight sets all day
      It will be hard to defend
      Especially with a speedster like fuller on the perimeter

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        How are you going to cover Fuller, Pitts, Parker, Williams and Gesicki? Even when they’re covered they’re not

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      He can play WR too and is uncoverable, gets TDs in mass quantities. What’s not to like?

  21. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Sooooo, what’s new?

  22. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I personally like the idea of two tight end sets with a running back like Javontae Williams, who’s just going to hammer defenders all day, and then Parker/fuller/rookie on the perimeter

    I also still love jamarr chase though – my preference is chase
    But Pitts can work

  23. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    AGREE WITH YOUNG STANGER that the move to #6 from #12 was intended to snag a player Miami believes WON’T be on the board at #12. My instincts tell me that whoever is deemed the best wideout will be the Miami pick at 6.

    But this could also be a smoke screen, couldn’t it?

  24. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    It think Rhino is on the right track. I’m thinking they gone heavy defense. Won’t touch an offensive skill player until the 3rd.

  25. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    New Dolphins Logo

  26. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I doubt Pitts will be “uncoverable” in the NFL. Nobody in the history of the NFL has been uncoverable. Also, 2 TE sets aren’t really that effective in the running game when your 2 TEs can’t block and are both basically WRs. Now, if they truly envision using him like a WR, I can see how you get him on the field with Gesicki. But, if you’re gonna use him like a WR, why not just draft a WR? I get that the kid is good, but I just don’t think it’s great fit for us, especially when you have some serious other needs. If they draft him, so be it. He’s a good player. I’d just go another way.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      It’s effective (particularly against the 3-4) bc it freezes the LBs and slows down the blitz. It doesn’t matter how well they block if the tight ends are so deadly underneath

      The Eagles used this pretty effectively in their super bowl year with Brett Celek

  27. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I think this guy was reporting we were all on on Watson a few weeks ago but still
    Worth noting what he’s saying

  28. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  29. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    AYE!!!

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Ah yes, in those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, quarterbacks were real quarterbacks, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.

  30. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    It is Friday. I have to go to bed early but will dedicate this new Tom McDonald song to my drug addict brother-in-law.

  31. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Tua can be fixed, his hand size and wingspan, should be enough to overcome 6′

    57. #Alabama QB Tua Tagovailoa

    Height: 6-0
    Weight: 217
    Hand: 10 (left), 9 7/8 (right)
    Arm: 30 4/8
    Wingspan: 75 2/8
    6:34 AM · Feb 24, 2020

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      i’m not confident that’s the case,
      he gets the ball low and away from his head, the reason he does that is to generate enough ball speed due to lack of arm strength.
      getting the ball away to the side gives him more centrifugal force than over head. he uses too much body to get ball speed vs overhead throwers who do use their body but rely more on arm strength.
      the problem with getting the ball low and away is the ball comes out very low, and for a guy that i’m sure is under 6′ doesn’t bode well when 6’6″ guys are in his face.
      the way he throws the ball, he plays like he’s 5’6″.

      • David Collins's avatar David Collins says:

        no worthwhile info about Tua , comes from Your blind hate
        its too bad that You dont like Tua, and dont believe in Griers judgement, thats for Dolphin fans only.

        Grier and Tua know what they are doing, awesome trades yesterday!

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Didn’t think about the arm strength, when switching overhead, it gave me more torque, but I didn’t have Tua’s motion either. You’re probably right

  32. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I was surprised by the recent trade activity by miami, i guess they wanted to beat the jets to the punch.
    never had i seen a trade like that so early prior to a draft.

    kudos to grier for pulling off that masterful deal,

    i ask myself is waddle, smith, pitts or chase worth two 1st rnders? and would one of them be there at 12?

    my thought on that is no way.

    i would’ve liked to stay at 12 because this is a deep wr draft and i like the idea of two first in the next two years.

    i’m sure we will see more trades coming up.

  33. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    you can bet we will be picking a rec at #6, i think it may boil down to 3 guys, chase, smith & pitts.

    i’m sure the pig has been wallering all night long!

  34. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    the thing about drafting pitts is gesicki is set to get paid, he’s an unrestricted FA next year, it could very well be pitts at #6

  35. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Holy Yit — least sounds like your bro-in-law isn’t worried about the John Wayne letter any more.
    —————————————————
    Stanger, yeah, he was worried about it. I got tired of all the BS so I basically decided for them that the letter and all his military memorabilia would be kept by the oldest then when she passed it would go to my wife and then to him when both older sisters pass. I put it writing (plus other stuff), had them all sign it and had it notarized. I don’t know if that would hold up but he is to stupid to know otherwise.lol

  36. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Dang, sure was quiet last night with all the action that happened during the day.

    I think we stay put at #6. I feel that move back up was to make sure they get their guy. I do possibly see a trade down at #18 if they believe they can still get their guy whether it be an Edge or RB.

  37. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rob – I was listening to NFL radio yesterday (PFF show) and both guys are absolutely convinced that we did this to pick DeVonta Smith. I actually don’t agree with them. I think we’re more likely to pick Chase and I wouldn’t be surprised if it were someone else.

  38. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I think they are going heavy defense.

  39. David Collins's avatar David Collins says:

    the Fins are in position for Smith or Waddle at WR , and Rousseau DE in the first round

  40. David Collins's avatar David Collins says:

    i predict the Falcons will take Pitts, and Bengals will take Sewell,
    but sources are saying that Mac Jones QB Alabama, has moved into the top ten, and Chicago could be interested in him, maybe they would trade for the number 6 pick

    the Dolphins are probably not done trading around, they like having extra draft capitol

  41. David Collins's avatar David Collins says:

    its old school thinking that a QB has to be 6 foot 6 inches to be effective in the NFL,

    Kyler Murray is about a foot shorter than that, lol

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      When you aren’t tall enough, you need to have some other attributes, that compensates for it.

      Kyler has a strong arm and quick/fast legs. Brees has the high release point and escapability. Russell Wilson has escapability and a pretty touch on his deep ball.

      I mentioned Tua’s above, but all of these guys had to overcome their shortness. I think Tua can, but its not going to be easy, and that arm doesn’t help

      • David Collins's avatar David Collins says:

        Tua has worked very hard in the offseason, and appears much stronger now

        BTW, Tua and the Fins won the game against the cardinals, that was probably Tua’s best game last year

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Stronger with weights doesn’t equal a stronger arm, but I agree he’s working hard to improve. A sign of a true professional.

        If it’s in his DNA I think he’ll get it done, and it won’t be for lack of effort.

        Rivers has the weird motion, because when he was a kid he wasn’t strong enough, so he used his body instead of relying on just his arm. Tua does something similar, but doesn’t have his height.

        Brees overcame early in his career, but struggled with arm strength with his overhead motion.

        Montana had the weinny arm, but was 6’2″ and had quick feet.

        I think Tua has limitations between Montana and Brees, but also some of their strengths.

        Montana benefitted from the quick short passing offense. I think Tua needs an offense designed for his strengths, that can hide his weaknesses too.

        He can get us to the playoffs, but can he win there will be the question

  42. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Mike E. says:
    March 27, 2021 at 7:45 am
    Rob – I was listening to NFL radio yesterday (PFF show) and both guys are absolutely convinced that we did this to pick DeVonta Smith. I actually don’t agree with them. I think we’re more likely to pick Chase and I wouldn’t be surprised if it were someone else.
    ___________________________________________________
    with 5 picks in front of us i doubt you can target 1 guy, That said there’s a reason they moved from 3 to 12 back to 6, they probably felt that among the recs they covet would be there a little later so why not get the compensation for #3.
    they were most likely targeting multiple wr’s and are good either way the cookie crumbles.
    if both of their guys are gone at 6 they could trade back again.

    atl and cincy could take smith and chase.

  43. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Was looking at former Tide pass catchers to see how they’re doing in the NFL, Jones, Copper, and Riddley are currently tearing it up.

    Rookies Jeudy
    REC
    52
    Tied-70th
    YDS
    856
    32nd
    TD
    3
    Tied-82nd
    AVG
    16.5
    7th
    and Ruggs
    REC
    26
    YDS
    452
    TD
    2
    AVG
    17.4

    Jeudy was pretty good, but Ruggs wasn’t.

    Seems pretty safe to take a Tide WR

  44. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Rhino, I did this draft with you in mind by continuing to build the defense and the trenches. I went with the 2 athletic freaks from PSU in the 1st. Then later, I took 2 speedy WR’s, both very good return specialists. Shi Smith is under the radar. He will probably run a sub 4.4 and plays tough. He was stuck playing behind Deebo Samuel, Bryan Edwards and poor QB play.

    I also traded down with the Jets from #18 to #23 and got their #34 and #146.

    6 Micah Parsons LB • Penn State
    23 Jayson Oweh ED • Penn State
    34 Wyatt Davis G • Ohio State
    36 Landon Dickerson C • Alabama
    50 Javonte Williams HB • North Carolina
    81 Levi Onwuzurike DI • Washington
    146 Talanoa Hufanga S • USC
    156 Shi Smith WR • South Carolina
    231 Josh Ball T • Marshall
    258 Ihmir Smith-Marsette WR • Iowa

  45. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    if you figure 3 qbs gone in the top 6, either smith pitts or chase will be there at 6, maybe two of the three.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Yes, and also likely at 8 one of the 3 or Parsons is there. It’s much safer to take Parsons and get a WR later

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        isn’t Parsons an inside lber?
        didn’t we just get that guy from the texans? along with resigning roberts?

        i think of all the guys available at 6 parsons a long shot, however we do have a defensive coach.

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        i would lean more towards rec as the favorite #6 pick

  46. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    I see Parsons line up mostly in the middle, but does line up on the outside too.

    Can he be a good LB playing mostly on the outside?

    Does that play into his strengths?

  47. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    we could also draft sewell if he;s there at 6, especially with chase and smith gone, sewell could be their back up plan.
    any way you roll the dice you will have a quality player available at 6

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      If they really coveted Sewell, I think you stay at 3.

      I don’t think Sewell is what Tua needs, because a lot off the O will be quick passes.

      I think going WR gives you insurance on Fuller being 1 and done.

      I’m convinced it’s WR with Pitts a possibility, because he really plays WR, but he seems to be more of the same as Parker and Williams.

      To replace Fuller you go Waddle, that also replaces Grant

  48. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Moving to 6 leads me to believe, that Parsons isn’t the target.

    A Tuaceiver has to be the pick based on yesterday’s trades.

    From what I heard yesterday, that makes sense, we really wanted pick 6, but the Eagles didn’t want to move up, so we had to trade down to get a spot they wanted.

    • Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

      While I still think Parsons is the target, your point about working Eagles and 49ers at same time because “Eagles didn’t want to move up” is excellent point to explain the way this all shook out. We wanted Eagles spot and Grier figured out how to get there and get the #102 this year. I also think its possible the 2023 pick could be used to move up from 2nd into the 1st for another fist rd pick like last year. We’d still have our first rd picks in 2022/2023.

  49. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Piggy, I think Shi Smith would be a decent 5th/6th round WR prospect. He is a samurai. Has Landry like hands but faster.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qypjkqWAXPA

  50. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I really think that #6 pick is going to be Devonta Smith.

  51. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Pick 6 – WR (good thing it wasn’t a QB 😉)

    18 – D, Edge or OLB type of guy. Rousseau or Owusu

    36 – RB

    50 – C

  52. Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

    BBM,
    First of all, sorry for your hectic trip. Funerals are hard enough without all the other insanity.

    LOVE your above draft. I’m shocked you got Davis AND Dickerson in the 2nd rd. That trade back to #23 is exactly what I was suggesting in earlier post.

    As a team, I still think we played above our talent level. THAT is another skill Flores learned about NE philosophy… coaching matters. I credit Flores 100%. He will change out coaches/players to get “the look” that he has in his mind.

    Your 1st round gives Flores a defense with guys who can line up all over the place which he needs to disguise pass rush (we ranked near top of nfl in blitzing last year). Parsons could line up as a DE, he could be lined up at any LB spot, he is ultimate weapon for a blitz happy team that thrives on the ability to baffle the offense with disguises… while at same time can read/fill run gaps.

    Your 2nd round creates an OL all on rookie $$ and only Kindley not a 1st/2nd rd pick. Davis Dickerson Kindley would be human version of bulldozer… Williams to 2nd level over and over. Tua gets more time cuz D gets frozen on play action.

    Flores isn’t thinking “how do I help Tua” … he has shown that he is thinking “how do I help the team”.
    Mocks all over the place have Parsons at #7 (especially after his pro day). Thus the importance of getting back to #6. 😀

    As amazing as the WRs this year are, every year we see guys like this. Guys like Parsons are much much harder to find. Last year’s record makes us think we are rebuilt when we realistically should be thinking 2021/2022 draft to build a ‘championship’ caliber team when the talent has 3 yrs of rookie $.

    Where did Paye go in your mock?

  53. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    RIP Howard Schnellenberger

  54. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Piggy, my other 4th round or later WR’s I like other than Marquez Stevenson are D’Wayne Eskridge of Western Michigan:

    and Ihmir Smith-Marsette of Iowa:

  55. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    NFL has released some pics of the top draft, including Ja’Marr Chase and DeVonta Smith

  56. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    4 of the 6 WRs, that will be on the roster this year are set, if we draft one early.
    Fuller, Parker (15m dead money) Hollins (1m dead money ST ace, just resigned), and a rookie drafted in the first 3 rounds.

    That leaves Williams, who should make it, because he’s at 853k and makes plays when on the field.

    One of Wilson, Grant, Hurns, Foster and Bowden should also make it.

    The only change to this I would think would be let Hollins go, because someone else is lighting it up.

    My 2 cents

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      I like Williams a lot, but if we take an outside WR like Chase or Smith could see him traded. Not enough room in the Inn and we would need slot guys. Not much but he should have value. Exception to that would be if they are playing Fuller in the slot a lot.

  57. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    When the Phins take more than one in the first round….. results are pretty good.

    1966 — RB Jim Grabowski, QB Rick Norton
    1968 — RB Larry Csonka, T Doug Crusan
    1976 — LB Larry Gordon, DE Kim Bokamper
    1989 — RB Sammie Smith, S Louis Oliver
    1992 — CB Troy Vincent, DE Marco Coleman
    2020 — QB Tua Tagovailoa, OT Austin Jackson, CB Noah Igbinoghene
    2021 — TBD

  58. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    The American Sporting World lost a great one today in Howard Schnellenberger. Not many Dolphin fans could tell you who was the Offensive Coordinator for the Fins historic PERFECT SEASON in 1972. That was the one and only HOWARD, the architect of one of the most effective, ball control, offenses in NFL history. After a stint in the WFL, Howard agreed to take over the near-dead program at the University of Miami. The Canes had already ditched their once-great basketball program. Rumors were that “The U” would do the same thing to their Division I football program if Howard faltered. Instead, Howard built this program to the point that the 1983 team challenged mighty Nebraska in the National Championship game at the historic Orange Bowl Jan. 1st, 1984. The Canes heart-pounding 35-31 victory brought the Sunshine State its very first National Title, to the amazement of millions of doubters who thought “Florida Schools” were nothing more than party schools. It was, and still IS, the greatest college football game I’ve ever attended in person!!!

    A few years later, Howard took his talents to Louisville where, again, a college football program was in deep trouble!! Again, Howard resurrected a down trodden program, taking them to a Fiesta Bowl victory and a Top 10 ranking in the National polls. Louisville remains one of the Top 25 football programs, thanks in no small part to Howard Schnellenberger’s efforts.

    Howard eventually moved to Boca Raton and worked with a financially-focussed company outfit that made tons of money during the booming years of the 1990’s. One day in the late 90’s the President of FAU met with Howard to discuss the feasibility of developing a football program at Florida Atlantic University. Howard became the heart and soul of this effort!! He eventually named HIMSELF as the first head football coach, bragging that FAU would have an ON CAMPUS FOOTBALL STADIUM before the U. of Miami would have one. Eventually, his prediction CAME TRUE!!! From 2000 to 2005 FAU took on all comers and eventually, moved up to Division I. In 2007, FAU won a bid to their first bowl game in the Super Dome in NewOrleans where they trounced a favored Memphis team 44-27. A year later, the Owls won another bowl game, edging Central Michigan 24-21 in the Motor City Bowl in Detroit. It is true that Howard NEVER LOST A BOWL GAME, going a combined 6-0 at Miami and FAU.
    —————-
    EVERY SCHOOL Howard coached at has a facility named for him (Miami,Louisville and FAU). And, of course, his work with the Dolphins speaks for itself. I had the supreme luck of being invited to his office “for a visit” in his office at FAU just as FAU was beginning its program. On his wall were photos of him with the ’72 Dolphins (and a smiling Don Shula) plus a photo of him and Jim Kelly while they were at the U. of Miami. We talked for over half an hour. He was highly interested in my experiences during the Vietnam War. And, when I asked him about his disabled young son, he was amazed I knew so much ABOUT HIM! iT WAS REALLY A FATHER & SON EXPERIENCE! —
    To say I felt right at home would be a great understatement. I came away totally awed by the man. Then I made a donation to the football program and he replied “You didn’t have to do that, Randy.” I replied, “It is both my pleasure and MY HONOR to do this, coach!”
    ————–
    Howard Schnellenberger was one of the greatest persons I’ve ever met. May he rest in peace, secure in the knowledge that he made a difference in so many people who had the honor of knowing him. He was a truly great man in so many different ways to so many different people!

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      That is awesome OD! RIP Coach!

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      OD — always love to have you on the board , but some days I prize you on it. Today is one of those.

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      OD,

      He was a huge part of my early Canes fandom. My dad loved him as the Dolphins coach. People asked me why my favorite NCAAB team wasn’t also the Canes and I said they didn’t even exist when I started to be a fan. He helped build that school back up.

  59. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Tunsil’s reaction to yesterday’s trade with San Fran.

  60. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  61. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    In the event Micah Parsons is our pick @ R1P6… as I’ve stated before, we can start him outside in our base 3-4. Tim went one step further… why not play him in the Elephant/Joker role (Jason Taylor)? I think he’s right. Trust, we’re going to find a way to fit him into our plans if we select him.

    That’s not me officially endorsing Parsons as our first (or second) pick, just saying he’s still in play for us. I think it all comes down to Steve Ross vs the Parsons’ team clearing his name for bully allegations.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Those bully allegations are another reason not to take him at 6, he might be there at 18, but as long as he’s able to play on the outside I’m OK with him at 6.

      Can Baker, McKinney and Roberts play outside?

      On 3rd down, just start moving guys all over the place

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Yes, Parsons can play outside. And with that speed of his (it shows on tape, too), he’d be dangerous anywhere we play him.

        I don’t know how much the rest of the league would care about the bullying allegations… but Steve Ross is going to have a problem with it, IMO. Meaning, NO means NO… wouldn’t matter if it’s @ R1P6, R1P18, R2P4, etc, etc.

  62. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Something I can tell y’all as FACT: teams hire PIs (not Pass-Interference, rather Private Investigators) to check on prospects before the Draft. IF there’s something really there with Micah Parsons, we’ll likely have sleuthed it out come Draft Day.

    And this data will be kept internally, not something that gets reported on. In other words, we won’t know until the day of the Draft if we’re confident in said prospect (in this case, Micah Parsons).

  63. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Parsons is not going to be there at 18. C’mon man. Parsons wasn’t even named in the suit. He had a fight with the dude who filed a sexual harassment suit against Penn State and two other players. Parsons poured water on the dude while he was sleeping in the commons and dude poured Gatorade on Parsons who then punched him. Dude was getting his ass kicked so he pulled a knife on Parsons.

  64. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    It’s true that he didn’t name parsons in the suit as a defendant

    The lawsuit is mostly about how the guy thinks the coach permitted hazing

    But the guy who filed it does give the details of his fight and he says first Parsons threw water on him in his sleep and when he threw Gatorade back at him Parsons punched and choked him before he had to pull a knife on parsons

    I don’t know, I don’t like the idea of bringing a guy who was fighting (really kicking the ass of) one of the younger players when he was in school

    If that’s true (I don’t know if it is) it’s not exactly a good lockerroom presence

    I think some teams may have Parson off their board

    This stuff is NOT going to proven or proven false before the draft

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Utes with too much testosterone. You never fought when you were young? Played poorly thought out jokes?

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Agreed with Pig, and also agreed with Phelon… Parsons WILL be off the board by R1P18.

      This isn’t the world of the 70s, 80s, 90s, or even the 00s. There WILL be teams that don’t care about the allegations against Parsons, wanting to get one of the best LBs over the last decade. By the same token… will Steve Ross be one of them after BullyGate?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Barber is the main player and in the lawsuit, Parsons part seems like it’s not really related to the sexual harassment, so to me Parsons part seems like nothing

  65. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    Bail Bond Mike, Young Stanger and New Age—thank you very much for your kind comments regarding my off-the-cuff recollections about the one and only Howard Schnellenberger. I thought my comments would shed some much needed light on JUST HOW GREAT HE REALLY WAS!!
    –Before Howard, most sports observers thought state of Florida college football WAS A JOKE!!–But Howard knew better. He knew that most of the star high school football players coming out of Florida chose to go OUT OF STATE to play college football. He drew a line on the state map from the north side of Tampa to just north of Orlando over to Daytona Beach. He called it “The STATE of MIAMI!!” He said “If I can successfully recruit from roughly Interstate 4 south to Key West, and get most or many of them to play for me in Miami, that team will be able to BEAT ANYBODY–NOTRE DAME, SYRACUSE, MICHIGAN OR NEBRASKA–YOU NAME THEM–WE’LL BEAT THEM!!” When a reporter from the Miami Herald laughed, Howard turned to him and said “We’ll see who has the last laugh!” He predicted “Miami will win a National Championship in football, you’ll see!”
    ————-
    Howard was wrong. After he won Miami’s first National Championship, the Canes would go on to win FOUR MORE titles by the early 2000’s. A sixth crown was taken from them when a dubious pass interference call in overtime allowed Jim Tressel’s Buckeyes to claim a title some thought they didn’t deserve. In addition to Miami’s 5 National Championships, both Florida and Florida State have each won 3 more National Crowns, bringing to 11 the number of National Championships claimed by Florida Schools once known as “PARTY SCHOOLS!!”
    ———–
    SO, as it turned out, even the great Howard Schnellenberger underestimated the strength and depth of quality high school players coming out of the Florida high school programs. In due course, schools like Michigan, Ohio State, Georgia, Auburn and Alabama started to heavily recruit these future stars from Florida high schools. Then, as time went by, schools like Central Florida, USF, FAU and FIU started to siphon-off talent that used to go to the state’s Big Three Colleges, weakening them in comparison to the near-monopoly they had from the early 1980’s through around 2012 or so. They no longer dominate as they once did. But, as a group, the Florida schools are still a factor to be reckoned with, thanks in no small measure to Howard Schnellenberger’s efforts. He, HOWARD, was the trailblazer who gave rise to the State of Florida’s dominance in college football, and, in some respect, to the dominance our NFL teams at times have displayed in the years since he retired.

    He helped make what football has come to be known as in the Sunshine State!
    Rest in Peace, Howard Schnellenberger!!

  66. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    every year we try to make ways to get players without regard for future players later on in this draft or in future years, i would not want to sacrifice picks by trying to move up to get an ILB whom we seem to have enough of them anyway.

    i doubt Parsons is a legit possibility.

  67. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    RND 1 PICK 18 POSSIBILITIES
    Gregory Rousseau EDGE MIAMI 6’5″ 260
    Jaycee Horn CB SC 6’0″ 200
    Wyatt Davis OG OHIO ST 6’5″ 310
    Christian Barmore DL ALA 6’5″ 310
    Rondale Moore WR PURDUE 5’9″ 176
    Kwity Paye EDGE MICH 6’4″ 277
    Rashod Bateman WR MINN 6’1″ 210
    Christian Darrisaw OT VT 6’5″ 314
    Samuel Cosmi OT TX 6’7″ 309
    Trevon Moehrig S TCU 6’2″ 202

  68. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    I’D LIKE TO THINK that there’s a real good chance that Flores and his FO team picks a top-flight O-Lineman before the end of round 3 (and preferably earlier than that). Miami’s offensive line made major progress last season. But they are still a work in progress. The Fins STILL need at least one more guy who can step in and start his rookie season. And they sorely need quality depth in the offensive line. Indeed, Kansas City’s LACK of quality replacements at the Tackle position was the #1 reason why they were blown-out in the Super Bowl despite being listed as the favorites.
    ——————————
    I THINK our biggest need right now is at WR. We definitely have to get a receiver capable of getting separation from the current generation of speedy defensive backs. In theory, either Smith or Chase have the speed required to do this. So does Waddle.
    —————————–
    A LARGE, STRONG, running back with reasonable speed is also on my wish list. We need Najee, or someone like him, to fill this big need. –Round 2 may be the time to pull the trigger for the best available O-Lineman and the best available run stuffer or edge player. That would be a wise use of our pair of second round picks.

  69. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    I guess this means we are not all in for Deshaun Watson

  70. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Pitts at Sitts, he’s got the highest upside and downside, hands, size, speed, catch radius, redzone…

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      My only problem with Pitts is we under-used Gesicki for quite a while. I think he’s the most talented option but will we use him properly? Guy is a 1000 yd option if used right.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I can see all 3 top WRs being busts. Waddle has speed, but wasn’t as productive as he should’ve been in Alabama, Smith 170, and Chase may be a college WR and not an NFL WR.

        The chance all 3 of these guys are all busts isn’t that high, but Pitts bust rate is much smaller.

        All 4 should be good NFL receivers, but how good is the question?

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      with gesicki set to get paid and will be unrestricted in 22, with fuller in the house.
      pitts is a viable option at 6

  71. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    We’re back to the 3rd round pick the 49ers gave us being a 2022 pick, and not the 102nd this year.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Was assuming that so cause all the recent articles have been going there. Think I read (and did not know before) the Eagles got two 3rds for the coach. So they traded the 2nd to us.

  72. Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

    I think Pitts would be a “luxury pick” for the Fins at this point of the rebuild.

    At the risk of sounding like a 76ers fan, “trust the process”.

    Grier and Flores are in sync about the imperative of “winning the line of scrimmage” first.

    No more “bend but don’t break on defense”. Thats not winning the line of scrimmage. Need to be “No bend. Done.”

    Pass rush is how defenses win since the new rules.

    All the mocks show top 10 dominated by skill positions, which reflects fan-base mentality for entertainment. It feels like a disconnect from some basic principles of football (like win the line of scrimmage).

    We invested heavily in DBs. Create the best pass rush in the NFL and watch our INTs skyrocket. The result is more possessions, more opportunities.

    As I’ve said, at #6 we get a dynamic receiving threat, BUT is it the next step of the process. Flores for sure is deaf to any comments outside of the organization (as shown by the many decisions with Tua this yr). Fuller is already “that guy” … what is the role of Wilson/Hurns?

    Building the right way means resisting the fear that great skill players will never again be available in future drafts. Lol

    The month before 2020 draft all the story lines were “Hebert over Tua”. Now its all about receivers when our WR room already doesn’t have enough chairs.

    In my opinion, all trending opinions about #6 are to hide true intentions or entice a team like Carolina to move up a couple spots to get us another pick.
    I think Pitts has O% chance of being a Fin. But 100% being smoke. We still have to freeze teams like Det/Car/Den from moving up to #4 and taking our real target.

  73. Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

    I’ve been seeing that too. Definitely weakens the trades. Pick 102 is still a place to pick up a guy who can contribute right away. What do Fins say the pick is? I think I will go see.

  74. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    You have to think they are all in on Smith at 6

  75. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I think Grier has shown that he’s not afraid to spend high drat picks on guys who are seen as projects or developmental. I wouldn’t take anybody off the table. Even a guy like Rousseau who is extremely raw but has a ton of potential to be great could be in the mix….even at #6. I think they believe they can develop players if the right foundation is there.

  76. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I’m in the D camp, too, for the reasons Rhino laid out. Also, I think Flores wants a top 5, worst top 10, defense. I’m pretty sure the Buffalo game tweaked his ass.

    If Micah is all what they say he his, our defense could be sick. The versatility and surprise factor will be off the charts. I loved the D heavy mock draft above.

    Other holes needed to be filled, DL, RB, WR, OL, Edge (?), in no particular order.

    I don’t see Pitts as just a TE. Built like one but could easily play WR. Another multiuse player. He is not a Gesicki clone at all, imo.

    I missed the part in Warner’s evaluation of Tua’s throwing mechanics. Maybe Warner missed the QB throwing mechanic’ss seminar presented on this blog. Lmao!

    I loved Howard Schnellenberger. He was the best! Nice props, OD.

    Good for you, BBM. Glad you’re safe and glad you retained a family treasure.

    Lol….i think i caught up.

    Oh, Ross is going to trust his people, his evaluators, coaches, GM, etc to do their homework.

    • Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

      Parsons pro day workout solidified him as top 10. Detroit’s defense was ranked LAST in the NFL. He won’t get past #7. Thus the need to be no lower than #6. 😉 There are no teams ahead Miami that are a threat to draft Parsons… and Detroit can’t really afford to move up to #4, imo, cuz they really need all of their picks. Parsons’ 4.39 40… omg! Plays the run or rushes QB … he’s a legit 3-down guy that up-tempo offenses won’t take advantage of. Ok. time to do something productive today. lol

  77. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Parsons is not a great run defender. He’s a movement guy and sometimes that gets him out of position. But, if he can improve his tackling and with a little more discipline, he could be really good. Great potential upside. I’m not sure I’d worry too much about the incident, but I’d look into it.

    • Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

      I thought the consensus was that Parsons is great at defending the run, especially getting to the edges (where we really had issues recently).

  78. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Just have a hard time believing that we moved from #12 and gave up another first round draft choice to make sure we get a guy who might be there at #12 anyhow and doesn’t really fit our need for an edge and who our owner is probably gonna have serious qualms about.

  79. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    I like Parsons and wouldn’t mind him. At the same time, I prefer Pitts and Chase in that order. The NFL is offense dominated and in Saban’s words,

  80. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Krishna,
    Gesicki and Pitts are both WRs playing TE. They bring the same skill set to the field. It’s just that Pitts is probably better and more physically gifted. Neither blocks much, and they can both be put in WR positions and asked to run WR routes. I’m not sure what you’ve seen to say they’re not the same sort of player.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      They are similar, but both can block at least some. I could seem them working together. Could use them as a two TE set on standard running plays, but the Phins could turn that into a 4 WR look at the snap of the fingers with no substitutions allowed.

  81. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    My draft prediction for the first 2 rounds
    R1P6 – Micah Parsons (ILB)
    R1P18 – Kwity Payne (DL)
    R2P36 – Cristian Barmore (DL)
    R2P50 – Javonte Williams (RB)

  82. Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

    New Age…. regarding your Saban quote… what does Saban say about playing Elite Defense rather than just ‘good’ defense? lol
    Chiefs had OL problems, but Bucs still showed how to stop the NFLs most dynamic QB. An elite pass rush will give even a healthy Chiefs OL crazy fits. Time to make LBs as stacked as our DBs.

  83. Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

    Since the implementation of salary cap in 1994:

    -only two super bowl champions ranked in top 5 of offense and defense both
    -no SB champion since 1997 (23 years), has ranked in top 5 of both offense and defense

    -since 2013 every SB winner has been highly ranked for fewest points allowed.

    The secret to winning the SB is not how often your team scores, it is about how often you STOP your opponent from scoring. At least that’s what stats and history consistently shows.

  84. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Rhino,
    He’s great at moving laterally and covering area, so he can get to tackles. Where he struggles is identifying where the run is coming from on inside runs, reacting quickly and putting a solid lick on the runner. I’d just like to see him be a little more stout on the inside run game. I’m nitpicking. The kid is good, but he can improve in a few areas. He also brings that versatility I think Flores wants. Because of his speed, you can move him around and bring him from spots some guys can’t even get home from.

  85. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    At #6 in no particular order I see us selecting Sewell, Parsons or one of the receiver weapons. Not sure who else it would be.

  86. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Look, Maryanne beats Ginger hands down no contest. That being said, I would have let Ginger try really hard to convince me otherwise, back when she was filing the show.

  87. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Team Picks
    6: R1 P6 WR Ja’Marr Chase – LSU
    18: R1 P18 EDGE Gregory Rousseau – Miami (FL)
    36: R2 P4 RB Najee Harris – Alabama
    50: R2 P18 LB Zaven Collins – Tulsa
    81: R3 P17 C Josh Myers – Ohio State
    156: R5 P12 S Richard LeCounte III – Georgia
    231: R7 P3 CB Ambry Thomas – Michigan
    258: R7 P30 OT D’Ante Smith – East Carolina

  88. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Randy, i see gesicki as a seam threat TE and who can high point the ball which is great in the endzone. I also agree he has been onder utilized.

    Here is an article i just now found to say what a mean about Pitts. I promise i did not read it first as i was looking for pitts spped to add why they are not the same.

    https://www.profootballnetwork.com/kyle-pitts-nfl-draft-profile-florida-tight-end/

  89. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I’m not promoting this trade but turning 4 1st round picks into 5 the next 3 seasons gives us the draft capital to trade for Watson depending on the legitimacy of the allegations against him. It depends on whether we’re really interested in him. But 3 1st rd picks and probably Tua could get it done. Just saying we have what it takes to make that trade and not deplete our next three drafts. Food for thought.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Be careful with that one…… people get upset. Have the ammo for the trade no doubt though. Doubting happens this year…. to us at least.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I’m just saying we maximized our options. We can make major trades and still have plenty left to upgrade the team.

        I’d prefer we don’t pursue Watson and continue to upgrade at multiple positions but who knows.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        And could not agree with you more. During the offseason they set the team up so only thing we needed in the draft was an edge. Pretty much leaves any option open…. even if was Watson on opening day.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Good….lol

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Why are you poking the bear Tim?

  90. Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

    Saw mock a few mins ago:
    6. Chase
    18. Parsons
    36. Etienne
    50. Dickerson

    Lmao, Fins would need compromising pics of a lot of GMs for the draft to fall like this.

  91. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Tim,
    What’s an attack the backfield LB? He certainly has the athleticism to rush the passer from just about anywhere along the line, but you still gotta play against the run sooner or later…..even in what they call football today. Lol

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Yeah you just answered your own question. LOL

      Shoot gaps and attack rather than read and react type plays most of the time. But yes he’s a LB, he has to be versatile. I don’t see an issue with that, still a young player.

  92. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    You know who is screwed? It’s the Texans. Their franchise QB said he will never play another down for them but now the only way they can trade him is to throw him in the bargain bin. They may stick with him till the legal stuff is over….. but then he will probably be demanding a trade again.

  93. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Tim,
    He’s definitely a nice young player. I’d have no problem with picking him. I watched him play Iowa a couple of times. He looked kinda inconsistent, but you could see the athletic talent. He plays hard and fast….just plays too fast sometimes. He has a very high ceiling though.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      These guys are younger than us, Randy. Parsons has elite potential. I feel the same way wherever he ends up. It’s not some bias like he’s already a Dolphin and I’m being a homer. LOL

      I think he will be a dominant LB for years to come, a perennial pro bowler.

  94. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Team Picks
    6: R1 P6 OT Penei Sewell – Oregon
    18: R1 P18 LB Micah Parsons – Penn State
    36: R2 P4 RB Najee Harris – Alabama
    50: R2 P18 DL Jaylen Twyman – Pitt
    81: R3 P17 EDGE Hamilcar Rashed – Oregon State
    156: R5 P12 WR Amari Rodgers – Clemson
    231: R7 P3 C Drew Dalman – Stanford
    258: R7 P30 WR Cade Johnson – South Dakota State

    I can easily see this draft happening with all the ammo we have.

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