Dolphins News and Why I Miss the NFL Combine

“The Underwear Olympics” as some people call it. Regardless of that smear, I feel like the combine has its place, and just like any piece of information, if you’re doing your analysis correctly, it’s another piece of data you use to form your final report, not the only piece. The problem of not having a NFL Combine is the information you get from Pro Days, which are not sanctioned by the NFL, can be slanted, or maybe I should just say ARE slanted. Each college program wants their athletes to succeed because it helps their program succeed. It seems like all the top WR prospects that actually ran at their Pro Day ran sub 4.4 times. It’s not impossible that it’s true, but more than likely those hand held timers (homers) shaved a bit to make that happen. I like when each player is running on the same strip of turf and timed by the same guys and called out if they lean a little too forward or don’t start from the right position. Geez, these guys don’t even wear shirts anymore! Will they be running in jock straps soon, or maybe without them? I suspect that next year we’ll be back to the good ole combine as it was and they will have to wear shorts, shirts and those dreaded heavy numbers on the shirts that most likely easily add a few tenths of a second to all timed events.

Now on to Dolphins news, even if it’s old news. The Dolphins were involved in 2 trades, likely synchronized trades with both the San Francisco 49ers and the Philadelphia Eagles. The net result of both trades for the 2021 draft is that the Miami Dolphins will now pick at #6 in RD1 instead of #3, but we have acquired no further compensation in this draft. That compensation doesn’t arrive until 2022 and 2023. We still have picks 6, 18, 36, 50, 81, 156, 231 and 258. Definitely top heavy with two selections in each of the first 2 rounds and no 4th RD selection. I wouldn’t be surprised if we trade up or trade back and either lose a pick or gain a pick here and there. The most important thing is finding players that make your team better, no matter when you are selecting. We have flexibility and draft capital to get what we want, so now we hope that we want is on target. The Dolphins have also signed DT John Jenkins to a 1 year contract. Jenkins last played DT/DE for the Dolphins in 2019 and spent 2020 with the Chicago Bears.

Offense or defense? Which side gets the first pick? I still believe it’s offense, but I’m not convinced it’s DeVonta Smith or Kyle Pitts. If we do go WR I think it’s going to be Ja’Marr Chase. If we go OL I think it’s either going to be Penei Sewell or Rashawn Slater. A lot of you seem to be on the Parson’s train but I don’t think we’re going there. If I were GM, priority #1 would be helping Tua become the QB that can take this team deep into the playoffs. I personally believe that Tua will be a better QB regardless of the players we bring in because he’s a winner and he’s working so hard to be the best he can be, but adding talent around him makes that concept closer to reality. Even if Allen Hurns and Albert Wilson came back to a level close to their previous best, can you count on either of them to finish the season? Both were out all last season and have a lot of catching up to do to get back into football shape. Can DeVante Parker ever have a full season where he’s healthy and basically the same for Will Fuller? Can you lean on Jakeem Grant as a WR and not just an electric return man? Can TE Mike Gesicki really get to the level of a Travis Kelce or Darren Waller? I think he can but that would require him being a much bigger part of the offense, and over his first 3 seasons, he’s yet to eclipse 100 or more targets in a season. Compared to the aforementioned Kelce and Waller, both had 145 targets last season and although both had less targets in 2019, 136 and 117 respectively, each still topped 100 easily. So does that mean TE/WR Kyle Pitts is more likely? If it were me, I’d go WR all the way, we have a really nice TE corps right now with Gesicki, Smythe (who improved last season as a pass catcher), Shaheen, Cethan Carter and Chris Myarick. Smythe is a solid blocker and Shaheen is another big bodied TE that caught 3 TD’s last season. When I look at the WR corps, unfortunately I keep coming up with more questions than answers. Parker, Fuller, Williams, Hurns, Wilson, Bowden, Perry, Grant, and Hollins. Who is the one guy in that bunch that you can count on? Realistically, the answer is none of the above. That’s why my best guess is Chase, and not Smith. I think we need a reliable target, one who has ability but also has availability. I do think that Smith’s size is going to keep him off our roster and the huge consolation prize after Smith who is truly an elite route running WR is Ja’Marr Chase. Mark it down folks, that’s my pick and I believe it will be our pick as well.

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1,269 Responses to Dolphins News and Why I Miss the NFL Combine

  1. mf13ss says:

    I think Jaylen Waddle is vastly underrated by most in the media and our fan base. If his ankle is fine (and it probably is), he’s going to be elite in the NFL.

    • mf13ss says:

      So even if Pitts, Chase, and DeVonta are all off the board when we select (not going to happen!), we’re safe with Waddle. What’s more, we may rank Waddle higher than most… for all we know, he could be WR2 on our board… maybe even WR1, though I doubt it.

      • mf13ss says:

        I think Jaylen Waddle is my ‘dark horse’ candidate for R1P6.

      • mf13ss says:

        And we trade down a couple/few spots from R1P6, there’s a possibility he’s still there for the taking. Same goes for DeVonta Smith.

      • stangerx says:

        Think a more likely scenario is that they are just fine with Waddle if they move down to #8 or #9, but could very well be that Waddle is actually the wideout they’d had their eyes on all along.

  2. Mike E. says:

    Piggy – Of course I am man! Just fucking around

  3. The Flying Pig says:

    M13

    I actually;lay think I like waddle more than Smith

  4. Mike E. says:

    I’m not sure between Waddle and Smith. I won’t be surprised if Smith has a great NFL career

    • stangerx says:

      What I like about Smith is seems he has a better game. And when you are 170 pounds you need to develop that instead of just blowing the competition away with your beastliness. Whatever he did in college along those lines should translate well to the NFL.

  5. Tim Knight says:

    I think Waddle is going to be a real good player in the NFL. He’s a WR, he can run jet sweeps and returns. Explosive player.

  6. stangerx says:

    “Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis issued an executive order Friday prohibiting businesses from requiring customers to show proof they have received COVID vaccines and preventing the state government from issuing so-called “vaccine passports.”
    ————–
    So in a public health crisis my governor wants to stop people from proving they have been vaccinated and businesses from setting up different protocols for those who have been. Your choice not to get vaccinated. Shouldn’t mean your options are the same.

    • bailbondmike says:

      Why shouldn’t I have the same options? I choose not to get it right now and maybe never. I will raise hell if a business decides to discriminate against me. If I get it, it’s my fault.

      Getting the COVID shot does not make you “immune” to getting COVID. It helps your body build up the antibodies to fight it better if you get it. Basically, it puts you ahead of the game. That goes with many immunizations.

      I don’t know why people think once they get the shot they have this total immunity. It don’t work like that. You get the flu shot to help you fight the current strain for that year but you are not immune from it. You can still catch the flu.

      That is why vaccine passports are bullshit.

      • mf13ss says:

        BBM,

        100% agreed. And now, the gov (Fauci) is talking about the new strains/mutations. When will this BS ever end? And what ever happened to the flu?

      • stangerx says:

        BBM — people who have been vaccinated have less chance of getting Covid. From a public health perspective that has to come into play. Say I just got a Covid positive test….. should I be mixed in with everyone else? Protocols now says quarantine. Obviously that’s extreme, but mixing vaccinated people closer together than others is not.

    • bailbondmike says:

      If someone who has COVID coughs in someone’s face who got the COVID shot who then passes by another who had not received a COVID shot and coughs is their face, they can still pass it on to that 3rd person. BUT, we are to have different protocols. SMH

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Shucks…may as well get your tattoo now.

  7. Tim Knight says:

    Happy Easter folks!

  8. mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    April 4, 2021 at 3:36 pm
    …Your choice not to get vaccinated. Shouldn’t mean your options are the same.
    ————–
    That sounds very totalitarian to me, Stanger. Like Pig, I’m not going to call anybody a Nazi… but damn, what you just said above is approaching the danger zone as it pertains to freedom.

    • stangerx says:

      Totalitarian? It is just common sense. Some teams are already setting up vaccinated only sections and cruise lines cruises for vaccinate people only.

      • mf13ss says:

        We’ll agree to disagree on what is “common sense”.

      • bookman11 says:

        Wow, that is just scary to me. I don’t like that at all.

      • stangerx says:

        Bookman — just reporting what has already happened. And the same gov who is against this banned people from certain other states like NY some months ago. What’s the difference?

  9. mf13ss says:

    *in my Bernie Mac voice*: Dammit, y’all! I don’t want to be talking about politics in here today, on an Easter Sunday! Let’s try to along on this Sunday, you sum-um-um bitches! Why y’all got to trap me in your BS!

    LOL! 😀 😉

  10. bookman11 says:

    I think it is a slippery slope to issue vaccine passports and for business to ask to see them so they can set up different protocols.

  11. bailbondmike says:

    When will this BS ever end?
    ——————————————————
    I don’t know. It probably depends on how much stock Fauci and others own in big pharma companies making the vaccine. Once they get to about 200 mil people vaccinated you will start hearing reports that you need to get a booster shot or a new vaccine for a mutated strain just like the flu shot every year. By then, you or your insurance will probably have to pay for it.

  12. stangerx says:

    What is the difference btwn airlines (and the US gov) requiring Covid negative tests before flying and a Chili’s having a vaccine only section where they don’t do every other table?

  13. mf13ss says:

    Stanger,

    What is more important to you, seriously: an EDGE or a RB?

    • mf13ss says:

      I ask because that is what’s likely to happen with our R1P18 selection. Personally, I can’t make my mind up!

      • mf13ss says:

        Today (and today ONLY!), I’m thinking Parsons @ R1P6 (that addresses our EDGE), and Najee Harris @ R1P18 (that addresses another receiver position, while obtaining a great POWER rusher).

      • mf13ss says:

        How does that address a receiver option with Najee? He’s an excellent route-runner, has great hands, and is dynamic out of the backfield.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’ll jump in. Edge is more important but depends on value. I think we’ll come away with one at some point and a RB. It’s not like we don’t have some solid RBs. But we really need another LB/Edge player.

    • stangerx says:

      Edge. RB in the 2nd or a trade up to the late 1st.

  14. bailbondmike says:

    Say I just got a Covid positive test….. should I be mixed in with everyone else?
    —————————–
    Hell no! Stay your ass at home! lol

    We are not talking about people who test positive. We are talking about those who don’t have COVID and have got the shot vs. those who don’t have COVID and have not got the shot. Should not matter and should be treated the same. Otherwise, govt. is forcing those who choose not to get it to have to get it against their wishes and in some cases against their religious beliefs.

    Refer to what M13 said.

    • stangerx says:

      Understand that was an extreme example, but brought up to point out you can take measures to fight Covid.

      Let’s look at it another way. If I own a bed & breakfast (live there) and only want guests who have been vaccinated….. should the government insist otherwise?

      • wyoming85 says:

        Nope!
        But you shouldn’t have to bake a cake for someone you don’t want to either!

      • mf13ss says:

        The government should have ZERO say. Allow private businesses to operate as they wish, whether it’s pro-COVID or anti-COVID. It’s not that difficult. We’re not talking about something akin to the Great (bubonic) Plague. It’s the flu, for crying out loud.

      • stangerx says:

        Wyoming — completely agree. What happened at that bakery was not a time to go to court. Might be a legit time for “cancel culture” though.

      • stangerx says:

        M13 — 550k have died. That’s one heck of a flu.

  15. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    April 4, 2021 at 4:34 pm
    I’ll jump in. Edge is more important but depends on value. I think we’ll come away with one at some point and a RB. It’s not like we don’t have some solid RBs. But we really need another LB/Edge player.
    —————-
    Agreed, but for that we have some solid RBs. I mean, they’re alright, but I wouldn’t call them solid. JMO

    I want to come away with an ELITE RB, Tim. It’s been far too long. Again, JMO

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’d like a big time RB as well but I think Gaskin and Ahmed played pretty damn well for us. I also happen to like Brown. I said after we played the Rams last year we could use a back like him to add to the mix so I was happy we signed him. I think the OL progressing helps even average backs to be more productive. Whatever happens we need to add at least one nice offensive weapon. But pass rush is still a must for us.

  16. Tim Knight says:

    M13, there’s a lot of good prospects that I like for us. We’re going to just have to see how it plays out. 4 picks in the top 50 is pretty damn sweet.

  17. mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    April 4, 2021 at 4:38 pm
    Edge. RB in the 2nd or a trade up to the late 1st.
    ——————
    Agreed! And, on all accounts!

  18. bailbondmike says:

    Another thing, I truly believe I had a small bout with it last Nov. Symptoms only last 2 days though I self quarantined for 2 weeks. I should already have antibodies to fight off future exposures/infects so I should not have to get one right now or for a while.

    I have the same antibodies as someone who got the shot but I should be discriminated against for not getting the shot.

    • mf13ss says:

      Bro, I KNOW I had it in December of ’19. I was ill for about 2 weeks, battled through it, and only missed 3 hours of work at my regular job. My whole fam got infected with the same results.

      Now then… most of you libs will find this to be astonishing… I don’t believe this virus was hatched from the Wuhan lab in question, or at least as the story goes. In fact, we’ve found that Italy had exposure to the virus in July of ’19.

      Curious, is it not?

    • stangerx says:

      I’d be all for anyone who has the antibodies getting same status as those vaccinated.

    • bookman11 says:

      BBM
      You bring up an excellent point about the antibodies in those that have had it. I did in fact have it, do I get a passport if I have the antibody test?

      • mf13ss says:

        NO! YOU DON’T! You and I get to wear a mask for the rest of our lives… according to these so-called ‘experts’ like Fauci.

        Bookman, I’m so happy we buried the hatchet, my Brother! Love ya, man!

      • bookman11 says:

        Maybe those that get the vaccine or have had the virus can get a special mark placed on their bodies so everyone knows, and can see. I think I saw this in a movie somewhere… smh

      • mf13ss says:

        Right? Or the book of REVELATION?

        Happy Easter to you, Bookman!

      • bookman11 says:

        Happy Easter to you.

      • stangerx says:

        I went to school with my vaccine card when was young. Had to have it complete cause of state law. So really don’t get why a Covid card touches such a nerve. And have my eye on a cruise that would require one. So yeah matters to me.

  19. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    April 4, 2021 at 4:53 pm
    I’d like a big time RB as well but I think Gaskin and Ahmed played pretty damn well for us. I also happen to like Brown. I said after we played the Rams last year we could use a back like him to add to the mix so I was happy we signed him. I think the OL progressing helps even average backs to be more productive. Whatever happens we need to add at least one nice offensive weapon. But pass rush is still a must for us.
    ————-
    Agreed, again. You and I think very much alike… and we always have. I just want it all!

    • Tim Knight says:

      We also see that teams find good RBs outside the 1st and 2nd rounds. If you can block it you can run. Maybe you don’t get spectacular plays, but solid yardage helps the passing game and the defense. We’ve watched the Pats do it for years and it wasn’t just because of Brady. The Pats could always block their plays.

      I’m excited to see who we draft. This draft is huge for us to take the next step.

  20. mf13ss says:

    Aye, BBM. This is Tom MacDonald’s latest… it wasn’t what I expected, but it’s still alright…

  21. bailbondmike says:

    I own a bed & breakfast (live there) and only want guests who have been vaccinated
    ————————————-
    That’s what I was trying to point out earlier.

    You have a guest coming to your B&B who got the COVID shot. His Uber driver has COVID and been hacking all day in the vehicle. He congregates with other guests spreading COVID germs he just got from his Uber driver. The next day the couple he had drinks with at your B&B, the dudes wife can’t taste anything and is feeling like shit but she got the shot. She got COVID but next day she feels great. She had the antibodies to fight it off much faster from the shot. Getting the shot does not make you 100% immune from getting the disease or passing it on to others.

    Another thing to point out is that just because you got the shot does not mean it worked, meaning gave you the antibodies to fight COVID. It is rare but does happen. It happens more frequently when you are receiving a multi shot vaccination like HEP B.

    Being in health care I was vaccinated for HEP A and HEP B. Two years down the road I had blood work done and found out I was not vaccinated against HEP B. The vaccine didn’t “take”. My body did not develop the antibodies it was supposed to. I had to get revaccinated.

    Just because you got the shot does not mean you developed the antibodies to fight it without actually getting a blood test done.

  22. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, I’m not really into this discussion tired of it, but I never carried a vaccine card. What one did you have to carry?

    • stangerx says:

      Mom and I went to pre-register and the vaccine card was presented. State law required a number of vaccines for any student. Law might be different where you grew up, but way it worked in CT….. and there are required vaccines in most states.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I remember getting a polio shot when I was really young, that multiple pronged shot on the shoulder where that mark disappeared over time, but never had a card. Never heard of that.

    • steveccnv says:

      He didn’t you caught him

  23. mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    April 4, 2021 at 5:05 pm
    Getting the same less likely to get Covid card as those who have been vaccinated. Explain it?
    ————-
    Again, this is NOT the Bubonic plague. I don’t understand why we suddenly became deathly afraid of the flu. COVID is the flu, albeit a slightly more aggressive strain than usual. This happens regularly in cycles and is nothing out of the ordinary.

    What you fail to realize is that the CDC and WHO have been counting non-COVID deaths as COVID deaths.

    Look at it like this… I’ve had COVID and recovered, just like any other flu… thus, it’s been in me and it can be medically verified that I had it, postmortem. IT didn’t kill me! But that one time I tried to fight Mike Tyson in the ring, he KILLED ME!

    Well, it would have been counted as a COVID death under the CDC and WHO rules, being COVID had been in my system once upon a time… never mind that it wasn’t my cause of death, it was my ill decision to fight Mike Tyson!

    • steveccnv says:

      I’ve said for 9+ months the numbers are BS, they use them when it benefits them

    • stangerx says:

      All was trying to say was having Covid anti-bodies should be counted the same as getting the vaccine.

      If you think a good portion of the Covid deaths actually weren’t because of Covid…. then the way you view them. My view is more people died than in WW2…. but just my take and that of our health experts.

      • steveccnv says:

        Our political health experts

      • mf13ss says:

        Congrats, you’ve been successfully scared into obeying their orders. That reminds me of 1… 2… 3… 44… 187… 211… 911… 5150 times in our human history that the populous was scared into submission to the state.

      • stangerx says:

        And our non-political health experts. Ask your doctor.

      • steveccnv says:

        And many examples have been given in the last year, but you still go with the opinion of the MSM, and reject what right in front of your face. I could say the same about election fraud

      • stangerx says:

        M13 — that comment is a bit scary.

      • stangerx says:

        steve — lets say I am wrong. How do you know I am? Where do you get the correct info on what is actually happening that is not in the news? Clearly you have some inside scoop on this and many other subjects.

  24. bailbondmike says:

    M13, I caught TM’s latest yesterday. First I thought corny for TM, then thought they were just having fun and it turned out to be funny to watch/listen to. Nova is incredible doing these videos considering they do it all themselves. Got a serious Blink 182 vibe from it.

    They said these 3 weeks would be different and they were. I think my fav of the 3 was CHURCH.

  25. mf13ss says:

    I’m going to drop this right here and run. Mike Lindell is somebody who is very difficult to listen to, as he constantly interrupts and tries to be a great moderator. But seriously, this needs to be heard/seen by the American public… regardless of ones political affiliation. Both LEFT and RIGHT need to watch this…

    https://rumble.com/vf8f8b-episode-839-scientific-proof-mike-lindells-new-documentary-on-the-stolen-el.html

    • steveccnv says:

      Yeah right, it’s like they gaslight themselves, they won’t change their opinion based on video evidence.

      As Twain said, it’s easier to fool them, than convince them they’ve been fooled…even if the ones fooling them are the ones telling them they’ve been fooled.

      I don’t really believe they’ve been fooled, they just won’t tell us how they really feel

    • stangerx says:

      Can’t you just sum up what the My Pillow guy has to say? Was sorta thinking would get his thoughts in the $1.3 Billion defamation trial reports.

  26. bailbondmike says:

    What I was getting at in my last post about COVID is, how many millions of people got the 2 shot series but did not stick to the proper interval between shots? Whether it was due to unforeseen circumstances and/or unavailability. That is the main cause for a multi dose vaccine not to “take”.

    How many did not build proper immunity or no immunity at all due to that?

    But they should get a vaccine passport and I should be discriminated against though I may have better immunity than them.

    No one would really know unless we all get an antibody test.

  27. Mike E. says:

    I don’t think we’re going to take an edge guy or LB with our first pick at all. We might take one at #18, but I really feel pretty sure we’re going offense with pick #1, whether it’s WR, TE or OL

  28. Mike E. says:

    On COVID-19, I definitely think the numbers are inflated, but I have no idea by how much, probably a smaller percentage than even the hardest core disbeliever thinks.They seemed to go out of their way to link COVID into deaths whether it was the main cause or not, but I suppose they have the right to do that since it was present. I do believe the Government likes to control their citizens, and the fact that cities and states run by the left are much stricter in their enforcement of COVID safety measures and penalties and the like proves that out. In the Tri-State area, we’re at the mercy of Emperor Cuomo, who wags his finger and his Democratic cronies in NJ and CT (Murphy and Lamont) jump like trained dogs. Not so sure about Lamont but Murphy has followed Cuomo’s lead like a good dance partner since the COVID crisis began.

  29. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, I liked the mock the guys on NFLN did for us the other day.
    #6 TE Kyle Pitts
    #18 Edge Jaelan Phillips
    #36 Edge Joe Tryon
    #50 RB Javonte Williams

  30. bailbondmike says:

    As a Corpsman with the Marines, I have given thousands of immunizations over 15.5 years serving with them. Just ask the Marines on this board. The biggest time Marines hated us “Docs” was when we held “Shot Call”. lol

    I also worked with an Epidemiologist (like Fauci) for 2 years while I worked at the MCRD Paris Island Clinic. We did all kinds of crazy studies on the recruits while they were going through recruit training. We got 10’s of thousands of dollars from different major universities to conduct various tests on the recruits.

    For the record, the recruits participated voluntarily. We did nothing without their knowledge.

    That was back in 95′-97′. I haven’t killed off all those brain cells yet and still remember some things from back then.

    I believe there are facts and tidbits Fauci and CDC are not putting out about vaccine effectiveness in relation to creating proper antibodies. They don’t need to either as it would be counter productive and may deter people from getting it. You need to get as many vaccinated as possible to squash the disease. See squashed diseases from years past.

    We have the results put out from the pharma companies themselves. They say 75% effective, 94% effective, 96% effective, etc. Ok, take the 94% effective, what about the other 6% not effective? That’s 60,000 people out of every 1,000,000 where the vaccine didn’t do it’s thing

    So 60,000 people where the vaccine was not effective out of every 1,000,000 get to go in the club with their vaccine passport while I have try and sneak in the back door only to get my ass kicked by bouncers while I yell at the people in line, “Those are six percenters! Those are six percenters!”. Then I go to jail for disturbing the peace and stuck in a holding cell with a dozen other poor fuckers who DON’T have a vaccine passport either. I guess that will be the only place you will be able to get into without one. lol

    I just choose not to get one now and don’t feel I should be discriminated against for that decision.

    • stangerx says:

      But it really wouldn’t be discrimination. You could get the shots is you chose. More like “no shirt, no shoes, no service.” Anyone can put on a shirt.

  31. bailbondmike says:

    They seemed to go out of their way to link COVID into deaths whether it was the main cause or not
    ———————————————
    They also have gone out of their way to UNLINK immediate death (w/in 2 days) post COVID vaccination from the actual COVID vaccination.

    I guess they have to in order to reach heard status and not deter people from getting the shot(s).

  32. Mike E. says:

    FWIW – I have my appointment to get shot #1 tomorrow morning at 8:15AM.

  33. ocalarob says:

    Mike E. says:
    April 4, 2021 at 6:47 pm
    FWIW – I have my appointment to get shot #1 tomorrow morning at 8:15AM.
    _____________________________________________________

    make sure you get the double mutant shot.

  34. steveccnv says:

    This stuff you guys keep putting out about Sidney Powell is a lie, she never said, that no one should’ve taken her serious

  35. Tim Knight says:

    Why is Covid such a big topic today?

  36. steveccnv says:

    stangerx says:
    April 4, 2021 at 5:49 pm
    steve — lets say I am wrong. How do you know I am? Where do you get the correct info on what is actually happening that is not in the news? Clearly you have some inside scoop on this and many other subjects.

    Let’s say you’re wrong?

    I don’t believe for 1 second half of what you write here is what you believe. You’re too smart for that.

    When you have health professionals, that are risking their careers, putting out interviews and undercover videos showing what’s really going on, that makes more sense than what Fauci is saying.

    Also get info from health care people, and I believe it, because it makes sense

    • stangerx says:

      steve — why would I lie? I believe the medical info we base our national policy on. Is that such a stretch?

  37. bailbondmike says:

    More like “no shirt, no shoes, no service.” Anyone can put on a shirt.
    ———————————————-
    Stanger, I am a believer in the effectiveness of vaccinations so don’t get me wrong.

    But what about the 6%? The 60,000 out of every 1,000,000?

    They are on the same level as me but they get a passport cause they went though the pain of getting a needle in the arm and injected with a foreign substance.

    They are still walking in with no shirt and shoes.

  38. bailbondmike says:

    Why is Covid such a big topic today?
    ——————————
    Lack of NFL news, lol. I looked everywhere for some. lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      Just wondering if today something happened.

      • bailbondmike says:

        Just this:

        “Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis issued an executive order Friday prohibiting businesses from requiring customers to show proof they have received COVID vaccines and preventing the state government from issuing so-called “vaccine passports.”

  39. wyoming85 says:

  40. mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    April 4, 2021 at 5:52 pm
    Can’t you just sum up what the My Pillow guy has to say? Was sorta thinking would get his thoughts in the $1.3 Billion defamation trial reports.
    ————–
    So you didn’t watch the evidence presented, I presume? Burying your head in the sand isn’t going to make evidence go away, ya know.

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s what they do

      • steveccnv says:

        Then respond with some condescending remark

      • mf13ss says:

        That’s pretty much how I felt with Stanger’s response to several of us today.

        Stanger, NOT trying to pick on you, but you really did come out as condescending. Just sayin’…

      • stangerx says:

        If it came out as condescending then I’m sorry. Assume you know the guy does face a billion dollar law suit.

    • stangerx says:

      M13 — it was a 48 minute vid that no I did not watch. And everything have seen from the My Pillow guy before has made him look like a buffoon. Like said there will be stories about his defamation suit in the months to come, including what he has said.

      • steveccnv says:

        That doesn’t dismiss the evidence he’s brought forth.

        Biden is a buffoon too, you have no problem listening to what he has to say

  41. Ken says:

    It is legal for a business to discriminate against someone who has not been vaccinated because unvaccinated people are not a protected class of people under our civil rights laws which makes it unlawful to discriminate against individuals in a protected class such as race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation and the like

    • Ken says:

      Not in a protected class ^

    • mf13ss says:

      It’s funny, though… is it not? 15 years ago, you’d likely have been arguing AGAINST businesses and their rights. I mean you no disrespect when I say this… just stating that North has become South, East has become West, and people are blindly following a political party.

      When did you become a defender of business, as a liberal Dem? Honest question.

      • mf13ss says:

        I wish I had you as my lawyer about 10 years ago, when I realized the Dems were taking over BIG BIZ. You would have done everything in your power to stick it to BIG BIZ, without realizing the Dems were taking it over.

        10 years later, my how your tune has changed… now you want to protect the very thing you once fought against.

      • Ken says:

        I was not making an argument I was stating what the law is not identifying my personal belief

      • mf13ss says:

        Alright, that’s fair, Ken. I don’t dislike you, either!
        Hey, man… Happy Easter!

  42. mf13ss says:

    Funny how liberal icons of the past — say JFK and George Carlin — would have been far-right of Donald Trump today. It really wasn’t that long ago!

    THINK!!!

  43. mf13ss says:

    I’m done talking about politics today, and I hate that I even did. Now go read the Federalist Papers, my fellow Americans.

    In the meantime, I’m back to football.

  44. bailbondmike says:

    It is legal for a business to discriminate against someone who has not been vaccinated
    ——————————————-
    Well, I think it is BS and glad my gov thinks so as well.

  45. Phindog says:

    I get my 1st shot weds at 10am but I’m on my 4th shot right now. 🥃🥃🥃🥃🐕👍

  46. steveccnv says:

    I think when the trade was made our FO thought Pitts would be there for sure at 6, now I bet they’re sweating it out.

    I think they would still make the trade today.

    Since we didn’t get good value in the trade it tells me we were more motivated, than Philly

    • ocalarob says:

      I bet they have multiple scenarios, either way i’d bet they are good with #6, Pitts may not be their #1 choice, it may be Smith.
      I think Chase is a devante parker clone and we already have him, Chase will beat up DBs but he won’t out manuever them like Smith will, the thing about Smith is, can he get off the line against an NFL CB?
      as for Pitts, you have to like what he brings to the table, with Gesicki becoming a UFA in 22, he may be ahead of chase in the pecking order.
      i expect either Pitts or Smith @ #5

  47. Krishna says:

    “We’re so stupid following our politicians, whether they are Republicans or Democrats,” Barkley continued
    “And their only job is, ‘Hey, let’s make these people not like each other. We don’t live in their neighborhoods. We all got money. Let’s make the whites and Blacks not like each other. Let’s make rich people and poor people not like each other. Let’s scramble the middle class.’ I truly believe that in my heart.”

  48. ocalarob says:

    Trump for pres in 24, My Pillow Guy VP!

    • David Collins says:

      worst post ever, SMH did u not know that trump stole his supporters money with recurring credit card charges? u have google in slowcala?
      and pillow guy is mentally retarded?
      lol

      we dont need losers and thieves like that, they need to go to jail

      economy is hot, jobs report on friday was way up, and markets are spicy,

      S and P set an all time record Friday, first time over 4,000

      the nation is recovering quickly from the trump mishandled virus, no need to go back to more death and lies from the fired president

      • David Collins says:

        now i know why rob had an economic collapse, he gave trump his credit card number, lol
        supportive fools and their money were PARTED by the thief trump, lol

        told ya so, cant trust a liar and a thief

  49. David Collins says:

    orob, while you are waiting 4 years for your liar and thief to return, make some money in Bidens markets, no need to wallow in economic ruin, lol

    wise Americans invest in clean infrastructure, huge gains

  50. David Collins says:

    unless donors inspected the fine print of an online disclaimer and manually unchecked an opt-out box, the donor’s credit card would be charged weekly until Election Day arrived.
    he was forced to return 122 million dollars.

    thats called dark patterns, its designed to steal money from the ones that supported trump the most

    thats trumps loyalty to his financial contributors, SMH

  51. Mike E. says:

    Was listening to Torrey Holt on NFL radio on my way home from COVID shot #1. He says he thinks Ja’Marr Chase is the top of the draft of the class, easily. He said it’s a coin flip between DeVonta Smith and Jaylen Waddle which is pretty much how I feel. We didn’t go to #6 to get one specific player, makes no sense because he may not be there. We probably have at least 3 players we’d be happy to have on our team.

  52. steveccnv says:

    One team the Chicago Bears could find success trading with is the Miami Dolphins.
    The Dolphins are, quite frankly, on the upswing while the Bears continue to stand still. Miami looks as though they are standing behind second-year quarterback Tua Tagovailoa and are ready to surround him with talent in order to make a playoff run this coming season.

    The Bears, meanwhile, still lack an identity at the position.

    Miami has done a nice job over the last year or so in acquiring plenty of draft capital while also attempting to solidify the most important position in football. With their current capital, there are several scenarios that could arise in which the Bears try to land one of their picks in this year’s draft.

    Just how would Chicago go about it? A couple of different possibilities come to mind.

  53. ocalarob says:

    David, you’re off the chain buddy, your presumptions of my financial affairs are psychotic, you don’t know me or my financial status.

    you’re full of advice, if i were to take your advice i would do it in reverse, what ever you suggest i do the opposite.

    you should seek a mental health expert.

  54. Rockphin says:

    Interesting tidbit

    based upon 2000 – 2016 – 17 drafts

    • steveccnv says:

      I posted that crap last week. Crabbs has an article out that uses it as a reference, saying we should be weary of a WR at 6.

      This article is a good example of why I hate most stats, it lacks a reason why WRs don’t stay with their drafted team. Are they too expensive, or what?

      Pretty sure our FO isn’t worried about it, just like they weren’t last year at QB

    • Mike E. says:

      So few centers are taken in RD 1, maybe that’s why the hit percentage is much higher. Every other position is pretty well represented in RD 1 though, which makes their hit percentage lower.

      • steveccnv says:

        That and their 2nd contracts don’t break the bank.

        In other words any C taken in round 1 whether they are great or just average us good enough

      • steveccnv says:

        There’s only been 8 taken since 2000, including the 2 Pouncey’s, and none since 2013, when Dallas took Fredrick, so yeah that stat is kind of weak

  55. steveccnv says:

    Right now it appears Chase and Pitts are the front runners at 6, but that’s in the eyes of the media.

    I’m pretty sure that’s not what our FO is thinking, I’d bet they have a trade to 8 or 9 on their minds.

    If both Chase and Pitts are gone, no reason for me to stay at 6, with QB 4 and maybe QB still on the board.

    Sure would be nice to trade with Detroit and get that 1st pick in the 2022 draft😉

  56. Rockphin says:

    Only 24 days left to wait until we are on the clock!

  57. steveccnv says:

    This is why I believe KVN and Lawson are gone.

    The Dolphins’ pass rush was the fourth-slowest in the league last season to gain 5-yards of depth after the snap. Could some of that be by design based on contain rushes and Miami’s general strategy of how to attack the pocket? Surely. And that likely may be the case. But regardless what the context of Miami’s shortcomings are in rushing the passer, the team needs more explosiveness off the edge even if the Dolphins aren’t aggressively attacking the pocket by design.

    And why I think, if we do go Edge at 18 it may be someone like Phillips.

    “(Phillips’) burst from the line of scrimmage to 5 yards traveled after the snap was third-best in the FBS last season, and the Dolphins’ front had the fourth-slowest burst in the league,” wrote Frelund.

    • steveccnv says:

      I think with the scheme we can accomplish the same passrush as last year with the guys we have currently, and maybe better with McKinney, and AVG used more.

      Phillips is quicker and more position flexible, than Rousseau. I think Rousseau would get more sacks, but less pressures or quick pressures

  58. steveccnv says:

    Jenkins contract, but he only made 1.1m last year, so I expect similar and to only take about another 300k off of the cap.

    We should see some extra cap space once McKinney gets reworked, then once our WR room is figured out right before the season starts.

    Rumor has it that instead of a 4th preseason game their will be a week off.

    During that week we’ll surely be trying to trade off guys like Grant, Wilson, Hurns and maybe other WRs, with a return like a 7th

  59. bailbondmike says:

    I like Phillips but am very very hesitant of drafting him. He has had MAJOR concussion issues to the point he retired from football and left UCLA. Went back to school at UM pursuing music then ended up coming back to football. Some say he is one more concussion from being out of football for good. Shame cause he is a hell of a talent. Article:

    https://withthefirstpick.com/2021/01/25/jaelan-phillips-injury-concerns/

  60. Rockphin says:

    So do you guys agree with Allen Poupart from Sports Illustrated on his assessments below? I kind of feel the same overall with a grain of “let’s wait and see” thrown in.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/news/miami-dolphins-breakdown-of-where-they-stand-on-defense-compared-to-the-end-of-the-2020-season

    DEFENSIVE LINE – Verdict: Clearly better
    EDGE DEFENDERS – Verdict: Worse
    LINEBACKER – Verdict: Clearly better
    SECONDARY – Verdict: Better

    I left out the list of off-season moves and his summary of how he came to the opinions above but you can read them in the link I copied.

    • steveccnv says:

      I read it and I agree, but once we get an Edge/OLB in the draft we might be better off at Edge.

      Addition by subtraction with Van Noy and Lawson, because we need a speed upgrade, and the things KVN and Lawson did well should be replaced by run support of McKinney and Jenkins.

      We may already be better off without KVN, by giving AVG more reps.

      The secondary you could say will be worse or the same, just based on X not getting 10 ints in 2021.

      Mostly I agree though

  61. Tim Knight says:

    This is in response to that Chicago trade that was mentioned above.

    How many picks do we need to acquire? The idea is to turn them into players who help you win games, not just keep collecting them.

    • Rockphin says:

      ahhhh but IF you can do both then you are golden. Seldom does history prove out that #8 pick is ALWAYS better than #15 or even #20 pick. More chances give you, well more chances to succeed.

      • Tim Knight says:

        But we’ve done that. We have five 1st round picks the next three drafts. Time to start turning them into players.

    • steveccnv says:

      I agree, we really need to get a top WR or Pitts, so we can evaluate Tua properly, otherwise we’re just spinning our wheels.

      You could say, if the comp is great and much better than that proposed garbage, that we could then trade back to around 12

  62. Rockphin says:

    I think it sucks that there is no clear “top” pass rusher / Edge guy in this year’s draft. I will argue that pass rusher is a bigger need for the Dolphins than Receiver is. It would be much simpler if we could just take the best edge guy knowing he won’t be a bust at 6 but all the big boards I see seem to say that Rousseau is the best prospect and I think he has too much bust factor in him as a one year wonder.

    I hate the idea of taking the “best” receiver when I don’t think that is our biggest need. I would take Pitts at 6 but think between Atlanta and the Bungles one will take him at 4 or 5. Sewell would be a good consolation prize but do we need another 1st round tackle?

    • steveccnv says:

      It may be our biggest need, but not our biggest issue.

      We’ve got Fuller on a 1 year contract, so can’t really depend on him past this year, so that top receiver will help decide, if Tua is the answer

      • Tim Knight says:

        Blocking overall is also going to be a big part of Tua’s growth. Both he and Fitz struggled when protection broke down and our run game was up and down. If that can be more consistent I think we’ll see a much better offense even with what we have already. But adding some upgrades at the skill positions would really help.

      • steveccnv says:

        I think Tua struggled, when we had no receivers.

        He looked really good, when both Williams and Parker played, so to me it’s the bigger issue.

        Tua can get the quick hitting passing game going, if we draft Pitts, Chase or Smith

      • Tim Knight says:

        That’s true too, but our young OL needs to take the next step as well. It’s not easy to get three rookies on the same page all the time. Hopefully their chemistry and play improves this season.

  63. ocalarob says:

    Covid shot tomorrow, i’m skeered!

    • stangerx says:

      Getting mine tmrw too. We’re shot in the arm buddies. 🙂

      Keep whatever paper you get cause might need to verify down the road. De Santis has sworn to make that difficult.

      • ocalarob says:

        i agree DeSantis is great, could you imagine living in NY under Cuomo?

      • stangerx says:

        Figure I could live just about anywhere under any politics…. and have. Been in places where the Dems didn’t put up candidates for the state legislature and ones where the GOP didn’t. Not all that different.

      • steveccnv says:

        That was then this is now. This crap the dems are pulling with their far left agenda is a different animal

      • stangerx says:

        steve — living in a FL Dem stronghold now…. seems pretty cool to me. My real point was politics don’t have much to do with living your life one place versus another.

    • Ken says:

      Good for both of you. The more people with the vaccine the better

      • stangerx says:

        That Herd immunity was no joke…. only the original way to get there was.

      • steveccnv says:

        And now the original part of the Herd immunity, even though it’s better in many instances doesn’t count

      • steveccnv says:

        What’s really a joke is that weekend at Biden’s stiff sitting in the oval office

      • Ken says:

        Important for both of you guys when you get the second shot be sure to hydrate both before and after getting the shot

  64. Tim Knight says:

    There are some rumors that ATL could look to trade down with a team looking to get into the QB frenzy. That makes #6 even better. That team could be Carolina.

    • stangerx says:

      Whatever the folks in Davie have in mind, we want teams jumping up for a QB.

      • Rockphin says:

        Haven’t they moved to their new digs in Miami Gardens yet? It was supposed to be done by March 2021. ( but you know how contractors are…)

        I could be wrong, I often am, but they should be moved into the Miami Gardens offices by now. No more Davie.

      • stangerx says:

        Good point…. folks in Miami Gardens.

  65. ocalarob says:

    I think taking Sewell you can’t go wrong, Sewell or Pitts

  66. stangerx says:

    Interesting thing learned today: Benardrick McKinney can play both inside and outside LB. And we signed Roberts back. Still leaves a need for a LB/edge, but not as pressing of one. Could take care of in the 2nd instead of #18.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yeah he played all around as most teams do this these days. We consider Baker an ILB but he plays on the edge too, blitzes and drops. We use that “Amoeba” defense with one down lineman or none with 6 or 7 guys roaming around before the snap. McKinney will be a part of that too.

    • steveccnv says:

      Both McKinney and Baker are good blitzers, putting either on the outside should get the job done, and reduce the need for Parsons.

      Add AVG, Biegel and Roberts to the LBS, that are effective blitzers

      • Tim Knight says:

        There are likely LBs Grier and Flores like that are not being talked about. Still think we need a legit edge guy even if he’s a bit green and needs to work on his game. Meaning a guy who has that prototype size 6-3 or 6-4 250-260. Even if he’s a one trick pony early on. That player might be available 2nd or 3rd round.

      • steveccnv says:

        Brennan Scarlett 6’4″ 260

  67. steveccnv says:

    Who can play OLB in the edge position to stop the run and set the edge on first down, besides McKinney?

    Belicheat looks like a D genius, because he always has lots of LBS that play multiple as well, making his job easier.

    Flores is no different

    • Tim Knight says:

      Van Ginkel and Biegel. Before his injury, Biegel was progressing on the Edge but lost an entire season because he tore his Achilles in the offseason. We also signed Edge Brennan Scarlett from Houston but he’s more of a rotational depth player. We need to add another one in the draft to up the competition.

  68. Rockphin says:

    In a normal “non-covid” world wouldn’t we have already had some OTA’s and stuff? Don’t some of them usually happen before the draft in March? I wonder if the league is going to have a virtual offseason again. Bruce Arians of the Bucks thinks the Union (which is run by Veterans) is against having off season workouts because it helps the younger, cheaper guys get on more even playing field with the more experienced vets thus making it harder for the younger cheaper guys to replace the older more expensive guys.

  69. steveccnv says:

    McKinney may be our Hightower

  70. Mike E. says:

    We need a Chandler Jones! AVG?

    • Mike E. says:

      Jaelan Phillips?

    • stangerx says:

      So what did you get?

    • Tim Knight says:

      Van Ginkel is progressing nicely.

      • Ken says:

        He is too weak at setting the edge but good pass rusher though

      • steveccnv says:

        Biegel 6’3 246, a little small, but he could work in with Scarlett

      • Tim Knight says:

        I think he improved quite a bit since his rookie season. He was noticeably bigger and stronger last year. But he’s still a OLB not a DE so he’s not going to be able to take on tackles and pulling guards on a regular basis in the run game. That’s why I said earlier we need a bigger Edge guy added to the mix.

        The Edge class this year has no elite, but there are a lot of them. Need to land one of the better ones.

      • steveccnv says:

        “Edge rusher” is a concept, not a position. It refers to pass rushers who attack the quarterback from one end of the offensive line or the other. … Loosely, in a 4–3 (which means, 4 linemen and 3 linebackers), the edge rushers are the defensive ends.

        We run mostly 3 downlineman, so this definition really doesn’t apply.

        Players considered to be edge rushers are usually 4–3 defensive ends or 3–4 outside linebackers. … One reason the word “edge” is used in the term “edge rusher” is that edge often refers to the area outside of offensive tackles, but within a couple of yards of the line of scrimmage.

        This one applies as an OLB.

        Not sure what you’re talking about Tim

  71. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, why would you ask Mike about what type of shot he got on a football post? You created the confusion. LOL

    • stangerx says:

      Was right after he posted, but guess he went away to ice his sore arm. Hear different things about different ones and tmrw am getting Pfizer.

  72. mf13ss says:

  73. mf13ss says:

    • stangerx says:

      That is not much at all. 3rd, 5th and 6th if you discount for years. No doubt what the Jets take now though.

      • mf13ss says:

        What sucks is that the Panthers don’t need to trade up for a QB now.

      • stangerx says:

        They don’t need but doesn’t mean they won’ t. Darnold got picked out of the bargain bin.

      • Tim Knight says:

        It’s not that though. It will be a 2nd and 4th in 2022, not a 3rd and 5th. That way of looking at it makes no sense to me.

      • stangerx says:

        Why did the Pats (and other teams) regularly trade a 2nd for a first the next year? Talking value right now.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Well there you have it. The Jets are drafting a QB. LOL

  74. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, I think that’s why we bulked up our DL this offseason with Butler and Jenkins. To help our LBs close on plays.

    Even though we don’t really play a “standard” 3-4 or 4-3 system, we are building more like a 3-4 base.

  75. Ken says:

    Is Darnold a step up from Bridgewater? I don’t think so. I think Carolina still going QB

    • stangerx says:

      But not necessarily in a trade up. Might be waiting for one of the top 5 QBs to drop to them and develop.

    • Tim Knight says:

      At #8? I doubt it. They’re obviously not that high on Bridgewater.

      • Ken says:

        Darnold’s rookie contract runs out in another season. Are they really going to invest big money in him. In Bridgewater you have a steady but not spectacular QB. I think in either scenario the Panthers need to draft a QB

  76. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, how does a 2nd and a 4th become a 3rd and 5th the following year? The only way is to assume the 2022 draft will be shit. What if it’s one of the deepest drafts in history?

    • steveccnv says:

      Stanger is correct a 2nd and a 4th in 2022 is equivalent to a 3rd and 5th this year

      • Tim Knight says:

        I don’t buy into that at all because it makes no sense. Nobody has been able to explain this reasoning and we’ve been discussing it for years. Why is next year less valuable?

    • Tim Knight says:

      Stanger, I don’t remember the Pats regularly trading a 2nd for a 1st the next season. But I do remember Jimmy Johnson traded a 1st the following year to Carolina for a 2nd in the current draft to select Patrick Surtain but that’s because he had a 1st round grade on Surtain and he really liked the player. So was our 1st really a 2nd for Carolina? How does that make any sense?

    • stangerx says:

      It doesn’t. Talking present trade value when folks are making the deals. A 3rd in 2021 is worth more than a 3rd in 2022 and so on. To take it way out there…. what value would you put on a 3rd round pick in 2028? I’m not making this stuff up.

      But yeah if folks though this year’s draft a shit show and the next the best in NFL history they would adjust the values.

  77. steveccnv says:

    Stanger is right, that ain’t shit to give up, like 3rd rd pick 75

    • Tim Knight says:

      What round will the Jets be using that 2nd and 4th in next year? There are only 64 picks in the 1st two rounds. How does that equate to 75?

      • steveccnv says:

        I posted last week how the teams consider future round picks, it was something I hadn’t seen before.

        A 2022 2nd is equivalent to pick 18 in round 3 2021, so 180pts.

        2022 4th is equivalent to pick 18 in round 5 2021, so 25pts.

        2021 6th 12 pts, totaling 217 pts or equivalent to pick 75 this year, which is worth 215pts

      • Tim Knight says:

        So why do teams keep making trades like this? It still makes no sense to me. Just because it’s a year down the road? The pick is still what it is and nobody knows what the next draft class is yet – better or worse. Maybe if the Panthers go to the Super Bowl it’s more of a 3rd or 5th because it’s at the end of the round and in the 4th comp picks come into play, but that also means they had a great season.

      • steveccnv says:

        It’s just a gadget to used for fair trades, the more motivated one team is the more they can expect to give up, and when a drafting QB is the result expect more

      • stangerx says:

        Lots of coaches on the hot seat Tim willing to mortgage the team’s future to keep their job or make that run for the ring. Not all of them but enough to make the standard trade evaluations what they are. Familiar with the Tunsil trade. 🙂

  78. steveccnv says:

    The Jets moved up three spots to No. 3, while sending the No. 6 overall pick, two second-round choices this year (Nos. 37 and 49) and their second-rounder in 2019 to the Colts.

    Darnold should now be considered a huge mistake, costing them the #6 pick plus 2 2nds. The next year 2nd is a wash with what they got back from the Panthers

  79. Rhino says:

    so much for trade back ideas with Carolina. The only other team that could possibly move up is Denver (I doubt we’d deal with NE if they inquired, but who knows).
    Looking like we are locked in at #6

  80. Tim Knight says:

    Ken, just heard them say on NFLN that Carolina may move Bridgewater now. So maybe they do draft a QB at some point but you don’t trade three picks for a player you’re not high on. I doubt Carolina drafts a QB at #8. In fact I think they might trade down for more picks.

    • steveccnv says:

      I could see them trading down, but they really gave up very little to take a look at Darnold.

      I like SC, so I hated to see him go to the jets, with that said, it’s still hard to root for him with the green slime stained on him, even though I would like to see the Panthers stick it to them

      • Tim Knight says:

        Expect the Panthers to give Darnold the 5th year option and take a two year look at him. He’ll only be 24 in June. Darnold has talent but the Jets did a pretty bad job building around him.

  81. Tim Knight says:

    This would be a monkey wrench of sorts. The Jaguars take Zach Wilson and Trevor Lawrence is there for the Jets. I’ve heard a lot of draft pundits say they like Wilson over Lawrence. But we know QBs are going top 3. Unless SF is blowing smoke up our asses and take a tackle and roll with Jimmy G.

  82. Tim Knight says:

    steveccnv says:
    April 5, 2021 at 5:14 pm
    It’s just a gadget to used for fair trades, the more motivated one team is the more they can expect to give up, and when a drafting QB is the result expect more

    But the Jets didn’t give up anything to draft a QB. They’re still at #2 and acquired more picks by trading Darnold. They’ve hit the reset button and are following what we’ve done the last two years. They’ve got a boatload of picks the next two years.

  83. Tim Knight says:

    Gee Adam Gase, wherever you go as HC, after 3 years you force franchises to make trades for draft picks and hit the reset button. That’s quite the legacy. LOL

  84. bailbondmike says:

    I know everyone is saying Lawrence #1 to Jags. Now a little rumble of Wilson to Jags. I know many on here say Fields sucks and is just another OSU system QB. I actually think Fields is a special talent.

    Who is the new coach of the Jags? I think any of the top 3, Lawrence, Wilson or Fields could go to #1 overall.

  85. Tim Knight says:

    Did Charley Casserly just say Carolina tried to trade for Tua saying his last name wrong? LOL

  86. Rhino says:

    Any pundits talking about Wilson over Lawrence to Jags are pundits looking to get their names to go viral. Lawrence has been a man among boys in high school and college. QB’d a national championship team as a freshmen… he is currently only 21 yrs old!! One Pro Day where everything is orchestrated isn’t enough to move him ahead of Lawrence’s game tape. For that matter, I thing Fields is a better QB as well… he’s just getting dinged because Haskins farted and left the room, and people think it might have been Fields.

  87. Tim Knight says:

    DL, Edge and LB is not an elite class this year. I would not be surprised if we take Micah Parsons who I think is the best defensive player in this draft at #6. Everyone will say the Dolphins didn’t give Tua that spectacular weapon on offense like no good offensive players are left.

    I think Parsons takes our defense to another level. Pitts and Chase are the guys on offense. There are plenty of other good offensive players. I think offense is deeper than defense this year. Take the best defensive player before it thins out. We have plenty of top picks.

  88. ocalarob says:

    i think the first 4 picks will be QBs, i heard ATL came out and said they will be taking a QB, tat leaves us with the 2nd overall non qb pick.

  89. Krishna says:

    Oh god intelligible.

    Agreed with TK about Parsons. I think he could take our defense to the next level better than any other draft option at D.

    • Krishna says:

      It’s a need!

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yes Krishna, we created a “hole” with releasing Van Noy and trading Lawson. LOL

        But maybe that’s part of the plan. To add faster to the position. We’ve got the draft capital to do that.

      • Krishna says:

        And that’s why our team is incomplete. Upgrading depth is not filling holes. Subtraction by addition (someone said) is a way to fill holes. If it takes two to get you what’s “best” is it really when you only need one. That’s a fucking hole in my book…lol. Sorry.

        WR is a hole, RB by committee is a hole, OL could be filled with better and cheaper talent.

        Another stout DL/edge/whatever is needed.

  90. ocalarob says:

    Wilson is better than Lawrence, the Jags suck at picking QBs almost as bad as we do.

  91. Krishna says:

    Urban Meyer is the new coach of the Jags. I’m sure he will pick the QB.

  92. ocalarob says:

    can Robert Hunt hold down RT, how about Jackson at LT?
    Sewell is a stud and will fit very nicely on that OL.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Sewell is an option too. But Jackson, Hunt and Kindley have to get better. They were all major draft investments last year – 1st, 2nd and 4th respectively.

      We’re such a young team, not sure we fans know what to think. But 5-11 to 10-6 was a nice jump under the new two year regime.

  93. Randy says:

    I just saw that Paye killed his pro day and dropped down to 260. I’m afraid he’ll get overdrafted, but I’m starting to really like this kid.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I’m not sure I understand why he’s so unpopular here

    • Tim Knight says:

      I wouldn’t be surprised if we drafted him. Not sure when, not at #6, but arm chair GMs say not a good pick. Flores likes his team to be versatile and I think we miss that point as fans.

      The bottom line is he wants us to play better on offense, defense and STs. Duh! But he has his vision and we have ours. LOL

  94. Randy says:

    Piggy,
    For me, he looked kinda slow and stiff playing. The more I watch him; the more I wonder if it’s more about him being more of a technician. I actually like the way he plays. He’s a powerful kid who plays hard, and he plays smart. He has a lot to like, but I just don’t think he’s a top #18 guy. That’s just me.
    ***
    He’s also kind of a tweener who is probably viewed as a 4-3 DE. I don’t know if that really means anything in our defense, but ya never know. He played at around 270-75. He was 260 at his pro day, and I believe he said he did it on purpose.

    • steveccnv says:

      Finally, someone gets it. Forget about Paye(s) of schit, he doesn’t fit, we don’t need a 4-3 DE, that’s why Lawson and KVN are gone, tweeners in our D.

      I bet we take Owen, maybe even after a trade to the 20s

  95. steveccnv says:

    I agree with Rhino on Lawrence.

    Chris Simms is so stupid, that he doesn’t even know what he said, but revealed his motivation behind why he says Wilson is the better QB.

    He said he wants to be a GM, then he says, why Wilson is better.

    He’s the first guy that said Wilson should go #1.

    If Wilson ends up being better, which will never happen, then he believes he’ll get GM calls

  96. Randy says:

    Tim,
    Talking defense: Ive been having a hard time figuring out what I think they’ll do in the draft because I’m still not really sure what they value or emphasize quite yet. I really feel their FA moves thus far have been about shoring up the run defense. But, they continue to sign guys who offer flexibility. Mckinney and Butler both have versatility. I don’t think either of them are gonna be real impactful in the passing game, but they give you some options. Jenkins is what he is…a run stuffer. Does that mean we see them continue that trend or do those signings free them up to go a different direction?

    • Tim Knight says:

      I think Parsons adds a player that is hard to block. I’ve said he’s a Lawrence Taylor type of prospect coming out of college but that’s also blasphemy. I’ve been saying this for months and if he ends up on another team I feel the same way. I think he’s going to be one of those perennial pro bowl/all pro type LBs.

      • steveccnv says:

        The problem with Parsons is he takes himself out of plays the way Kiko did, but on the outside I see that as less of a problem.

        He’s also a tweener to us in that he’ll likely go between our picks, but if he’s there at 18 all in

      • Krishna says:

        He’s young steveccnv. Don’t you think he can improve or do expect perfection out of the gate. Just a question.

      • steveccnv says:

        Of course he can improve

        Just pointing out a negative, they all have something.

        I think he’s out of position playing inside.

        I did say I’m all in at 18

      • Krishna says:

        Fair enough. They all have warts.

  97. Randy says:

    Trevor Lawrence is the best QB in this draft. The question is who will end up being the best in the pros? Nobody knows that. Lawrence looks like he could be an all pro sort of player. People are getting far too excited about Wilson’s pro day. Happens all the time with the combine too. The media loves when they can hype QBs. It gets fans interested more than anything else.
    ***
    I could care less….or couldn’t care less because neither are coming to our team….so screw ‘em. Lol

  98. steveccnv says:

    I think Simms might be playing off of what Orob said, that the Jags suck at picking QBs, so maybe Lawrence is better, but the Jags do what they do and F-up Lawrence

  99. olddolphan says:

    UP AT 5:30 AM to walk the doggies. Then on to Moffitt Cancer Hospital in Tampa for an entire day of diagnostic tests. NPO after midnight, of course. By 3 in the afternoon I was ready to take a bite out of an X-Ray cassette!!!
    ————
    But the news IS GOOD!! – – – no sign OF ANY RETURN OF THE CANCER!! – – I’m good to go for another 6 months!!
    ———–
    BITCH OF THE EVENING. The Eastern Time Zone sports fans will have to let the California “TAIL” wag the the American sports scene. The start of tonight’s National Championship Game is 9 fucking 20 PM—-and will probably be delayed by yet another mountain of commercials until 9:30, or so. GOD FORBID an 8:00 PM Eastern start for this title game because, after all, pleasing the California wackos is far more important than pleasing those of us in the other three time zones!!
    ——
    The Old Dolfan is out (by half time or earlier)!!!

    • mf13ss says:

      GREAT to hear, Mr. Campbell! I’m very happy for you and your Mrs!

    • Ken says:

      Good news. My 6 month follow up with the oncologist is in May. It’s weird getting used to living in 6 month increments

      • Krishna says:

        That’s not living, Ken. You live beyond that and whatever happens, happens.

        Keep dreaming, keep hoping, keep on keeping on.

  100. Randy says:

    Tim,
    You like Parsons that much, huh? That is some major praise comparing him to LT. I haven’t seen that. I’m still just confused as to why folks see him as a legitimate edge rusher because he hasn’t been that in college….not even close. Yeah, he’s an athletic freak, but he’s never been a serious threat off the edge. Im not saying he can’t improve in that area. He certainly has a high ceiling, but I’m not so sure his future is as a 14 sack edge rusher. I think he’s better suited to be a do-it-all kinda LB, if he can learn how to play with more discipline.

    • Krishna says:

      I wouldn’t compare anyone to LT until they do what LT did. All I’m saying is id Parsons is who the pundits are saying he is, he should fill a hole and hopefully improve the defense and move it to the next level. Why wouldn’t you want that if it’s possible?

    • Tim Knight says:

      I do think Parsons is going to be a special NFL LB.

  101. steveccnv says:

    LT will take your head off, I should know, he almost took mine off😉

    That’s what made him LT, that’s not Parsons.

    I think Parsons and Owen both played out of position, they should both be playing OLB in a 3-4, and dropping in coverage at times

  102. olddolphan says:

    MF-13:Thanks for your kind response.
    ——-
    WHO ya’ got in tonight’s game???

  103. Randy says:

    steve,
    I’m not sure why they let Lawson and KVN go, but they did sign them to begin with. That suggests to me they liked what they brought to the team. There are several reasons guys get cut but usually only one that they get signed…they like them. Both guys had pretty similar years to what they’ve been their whole careers, so I can’t see how Flores didn’t like their production and cut them because of it.
    ****
    I think these guys like tweeners. It gives them flexibility. I don’t even think of us as a 3/4 or 4/3 anymore.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Tweeners are more 3-4 or what the late great Bill Arnsparger created with the 5-2. It’s the same idea, 3 good interior linemen and a swarm of LBs. We have a very good secondary.

      It’s interesting that as things change they remain the same. 😉

  104. mf13ss says:

    Randy says:
    April 5, 2021 at 7:44 pm
    Piggy,
    For me, he looked kinda slow and stiff playing. The more I watch him; the more I wonder if it’s more about him being more of a technician. I actually like the way he plays. He’s a powerful kid who plays hard, and he plays smart. He has a lot to like, but I just don’t think he’s a top #18 guy. That’s just me.
    ***
    He’s also kind of a tweener who is probably viewed as a 4-3 DE. I don’t know if that really means anything in our defense, but ya never know. He played at around 270-75. He was 260 at his pro day, and I believe he said he did it on purpose.
    —————–
    100% agree with all of the above, Randy. Paye is a very good player, but I don’t see him in our future. I form my own opinions, and it’s very seldom I ever read a scout’s take on a prospect unless I become totally flabbergasted.

    I said a week ago that I view him as a nice fit in a 4-3 D, who can flex between DE and DT (tweener)… comparing him to Jared Odrick.

    Yes, he could work for us… but not in the 1st round. We need to get faster — not slower — at the EDGE positions.

    If we were still the 2012 Miami Dolphins, yes, I’d consider Paye @ R1P18. Today? Not so much. JMO

  105. mf13ss says:

    Ken says:
    April 5, 2021 at 8:51 pm
    Good news. My 6 month follow up with the oncologist is in May. It’s weird getting used to living in 6 month increments
    ————–
    #HulkStrong

    I hope everything is going well with you, too, Ken. Best of luck to you on your follow-up in May, in case this topic doesn’t come up before then, bud.

  106. Krishna says:

    LOL…I know Tim Knight doesn’t like holes.

    IMO, we have at least 4 holes and hopefully the draft fills those holes with our 4 of the first 50 picks. These are not upgrades! Lmao.

    How awesome would that be?

    • Tim Knight says:

      I don’t refer to them as holes. 😉

      • Krishna says:

        I know you don’t, but that’s our difference. I don’t think we just need upgrades. I think we need caliber talent and pehaps what we have is depth.

        If all you have is depth how do you define yourself? We have a lot of depth? I’m just trying to understand.

  107. steveccnv says:

    So far 2 big sorry white guys vs a bigger, stronger, quicker Baylor team

  108. Tim Knight says:

    Can I say blasphemy when comparing anyone to LT anymore than I’ve already done? LOL

  109. steveccnv says:

    At least you don’t have to stay up all night OD to find out who won

  110. steveccnv says:

    If they started the game over and spotted the Zags 20 pts, I wouldn’t bet them

  111. Tim Knight says:

    Reminds me of being teenagers hanging in the woods around a fire and NOT doing satanic things. 😉

  112. steveccnv says:

    I’m almost hoping Parsons doesn’t last too long, with NE sitting at 15

  113. New Age says:

    Steve,

    Have you read the article called 30 Tyrants by Lee Smith? It’s a terrifying read about our political and corporate class and how they’ve sold us out to China.

    On to football, getting rid of Lawson and KVN was all about production. As Steve stated, we were slow to get to passers all year and both had terrible stats outside of 1-2 games. KVN was amazing at Cincy….and pretty subpar the rest of the year. Lawson getting 4 sacks…is pretty pitiful honestly. I don’t know who is the upgrade, but our two ILBs are studs. I like Parsons but not nearly as much as Tim. I love Pitts as much as Tim loves Parsons lol.

  114. Mike E. says:

    Ja’Marr Chase – That is all

    • David Collins says:

      thats my choice also, Chase is what the Fins need

    • steveccnv says:

      No I haven’t read it, just knew about China a long time ago. Biden is on video, a long time ago, saying it’s good for the world, if China is economically powerful. That pretty much says it all, then there’s other politicians taking china’s side with the Rockets NBA issue, then kissing their ass when the virus came out. A lot there that tells us who’s who in political corruption

  115. David Collins says:

    everyone loves a good slot receiver!
    but the value of an outside receiver is higher IMO

    because almost all WR can play the slot, but not all slot WR can play outside

    the value of Chase over Smith and Waddle , is too much to ignore IMO

    i love Smith and Waddle, but Chase can do it all, so he provides more value

  116. ocalarob says:

    this woman seems to know what she’s talking about

  117. ocalarob says:

    David, i’m on the street corner holding up a sign, “will work for food” can you help me out?

    • David Collins says:

      yes i will do that, no problem, lol

      invest! my friend,

      because 2021 will be the BEST economy in a half century, markets are exploding
      dont miss out on it!

      • David Collins says:

        also do NOT send Your credit card numbers to people like trump or gaetz, lol

        if You MUST donate to the ped grifters club,
        use a preloaded credit card so they cant clip the damn thing every day for more charges

  118. steveccnv says:

    Adam Schefter
    @AdamSchefter
    · 45m
    With teams locked into the first three overall picks, the Atlanta Falcons now have received trade calls from multiple teams and “are open to moving” out of the No. 4 spot, per source.

  119. steveccnv says:

    Armando Salguero
    @ArmandoSalguero
    ·
    19h
    So Sam Darnold is way better than Teddy Bridgewater?

  120. New Age says:

    I really don’t understand the Darnold trade. You paid pretty good money to Bridgewater, he looks better than Darnold, and will win you more games. You are also deciding on Darnolds option with at best 16 games of data but he hasn’t played a full season yet. They paid a pretty decent haul on what looks like a really risky bet. Let’s hope the Jets break another QB.

  121. sb7mvp says:

    If you’ve actually watched the two play, then yes, Darnold is better than Bridgewater. Is he way better? That would have to be defined, but it wasn’t really much to give to trade for a young QB who’s been thwarted by bad coaching his entire career.

  122. steveccnv says:

    They didn’t give up a lot to get him, but yeah seems odd.

    Bridgewater’s contract last year was puzzling, thought of him as just a care taker in NO.

    Could they still trade up with Atlanta and take another one?

    Only 400 pts, and 450 for Denver makes the most sense.

    If Atlanta keeps the pick and does something weird like a CB…

    All options may be open for us

  123. pheloniusphish says:

    Jets are good at breaking QB. Carolina could package Darnold and send him to Atlanta for the 4th.

  124. ocalarob says:

    Here’s another guy who is spot on!

    • stangerx says:

      You gonna be rooting to be right or be wrong about him next season? Seems all the chances of someone else at QB have faded away.

  125. Ken says:

    I am really surprised at the amount of QB movement this off-season. I am some really big high draft choice QBs have moved. Matt Stafford, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz and now Sam Darnold. I don’t think I remember that many high pick QBs moving in off season in quite some time

    • stangerx says:

      QB tenure these days is about the same as head coaches. Teams are always looking for someone better. Tough jobs.

  126. ocalarob says:

    I am really surprised at the lack of QB movement by miami

  127. steveccnv says:

    You can’t remember last year?

    Rivers, Newton, Winston, Marriota

    • Ken says:

      Marriota and Winston were essentially considered washed up and back up material. All 4 this year are game day starters at this point

  128. steveccnv says:

    Does anyone believe this woman? I hope Watson gets the book thrown at him, but come on man.

    Sarah Barshop
    @sarahbarshop
    ·
    2h
    Ashley Solis, the first plaintiff who filed a lawsuit against Deshaun Watson, said she has suffered through panic attacks and is in therapy as a result of Watson’s actions.

    • Tim Knight says:

      What were his actions? That is the question.

      • steveccnv says:

        He made her touch parts of him, that she didn’t want to.

        What all these women have in common is they weren’t forced, so they could’ve thrown him out at any time.

        Mary was even going to give him another massage, if he agreed to be a good boy.

        Doesn’t make what he’s accused of doing right, but I think it shows therapy is just a money grab

    • stangerx says:

      Least believe her a whole lot more than plaintiff #14 or #15. And what she claims she suffered that no Xray can confirm after is all about amount of damages. Sometimes, true and sometimes not, but always exaggerated. Just ask Ken.

  129. son of a son of a shula says:

    First round QB’s don’t cost what they used to that’s why so many get drafted much higher than they should and because the cost isn’t so great the teams don’t mind going back into the draft as frequently.
    If top ten picks cost what they did when Matt Ryan was drafted Lawrence would probably be the only top 10 QB in this draft, the rest are just relative bargains so why not.

    • stangerx says:

      Good point. And for whatever reason they don’t sit for a season or two, which means you get more out of that rookie contract if they play out.

      Hoping the dynamic plays out and first 5 picks are all QBs. 🙂

      • steveccnv says:

        Atlanta is rumored to be talking to several teams, but Cin I don’t see trading out, unless they can get Detroit and the Cheats interested, or maybe they just go Penei

  130. son of a son of a shula says:

    Stej always goes for the “faggy” QB’s
    Here comes Wilson to fit right in lol

  131. stangerx says:

    “Of course, I felt like I had to weigh out all of my options, but it was a no-brainer for me because of the scheme. I’m familiar with the scheme from Brian Flores in Miami. So, it’s kind of the same scheme.. I feel like I fit best in this scheme. I thrived in this scheme. I can play in any scheme, but I felt this scheme best fit my skill-set. And being able to be coached by arguably the greatest coach of all-time, that was a no-brainer.”

    — Davon Godchaux on why the Pats made sense. And for sure sounds like the Phins and Pats have the same scheme.

  132. son of a son of a shula says:

    Have we talked about Jabril Cox?
    That dude could almost play Safety he’s not the pass rusher but he’s tough around the line of scrimmage. Versatile to say the least.

  133. Tim Knight says:

    Not sure 5 QBs are going top 5 but I can see 4 in a row. A team may trade up with ATL for a QB if they don’t take one. I think it’s a lock that 3 go top 3.

    • steveccnv says:

      Cincinnati could trade with Denver and still get Penei, so quite possibly 1st 5 are QBs, and more likely, than Pitts and Chase gone before 6

      • Tim Knight says:

        I hope so. I like Parsons a lot but I think if Chase and/or Pitts is there for us, I think one of them should be the pick. Sewell to the Bengals makes a lot of sense. Protect your young franchise QB.

      • stangerx says:

        Far as I’m concerned all we need is a QB taken at #4 or #5 or the Bengals to take Sewall.

  134. steveccnv says:

    I don’t know where all these rumors came from, we’ll I do but…, with Atlanta and Cincinnati taking Pitts and/or Chase.

    Offensive Tackle
    No team in the NFL has more of a need on the offensive line than the Cincinnati Bengals. Joe Burrow was constantly under pressure throughout his rookie campaign and ended up tearing his ACL and MCL as a result of his lack of protection. The unit as a whole allowed 48 sacks over the course of the season and wasn’t much better in the run game either, as the team ranked 24th in rushing on a measly 4.1 yards per carry.

    Atlanta needs Edge, RB and CB, so they may go CB or trade down (currently talking with teams) so QB taken at 4.

    QB at 4, Penei at 5

  135. steveccnv says:

    It’s only natural, that when you have a young team, part of the improvement from year to year is from the growth of the players, yet we rarely see that considered.

    In a recent breakdown by position we heard things like QB is worse, because Fitz is gone, but if he only played relief pitcher the 2nd half isn’t it more important that we have a better Tua than Fitz on the roster, plus Brisket will get some wildcat type snaps.

    Same with KVN leaving and AVG getting more snaps

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’ve been saying that for years that’s it’s more important for last year’s draft class to progress than who we select in the current draft. The draft is always about shiny new toys and the new excitement, but if last year’s class isn’t progressing that’s a setback. Jackson, Hunt, Kindley and Tua progressing is huge. The same with other young players throughout the team, but those guys for the offense are a big deal. It all goes together for the team becoming a contender.

  136. Krishna says:

    Son made a great observation about the state of revolving young QBs…perfect sense.

    Stanger, on fan affiliation for the no competition QB state this year was spot on.

    Build through the draft and let it reveal itself 1, 2, sometimes 3 years down the road. Then, re-up best, if you can.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Team’s that have QB competitions in camp because they’re not sold on one guy usually doesn’t pan out. Not saying it’s never happened, but it’s not ideal. Most teams that win have their guy and go all in on them at least for a few years until they prove otherwise.

      That said, I think building a team where you can still compete with your backup is the way to go. If it’s all about “your QB” and without him you can’t compete, you’re not a good enough team anyway. You need to be at least solid in all phases. Unless that QB is elite and makes that kind of difference. There’s not a whole lot of them in the league.

      • stangerx says:

        Yep — the team should be more than just the QB. And they are building this team deep and young, which really like. Even if your stud QB goes down you are better off, especially for the future. Gonna get a lot more deep after this draft.

      • Krishna says:

        Agree we both.

      • Krishna says:

        ^with

        Geez, loueez…

  137. Tim Knight says:

    Just in case we don’t get Pitts or Chase, it’s not like there are no other good WRs and/or pass catchers in this draft. Even beyond Smith and Waddle. Many of us also want a nice RB too. There are lots of ways to get better. We’ve got the picks and some good young talent already on this team. Stay the course as they say. 🙂

    • Krishna says:

      If we don’t get Pitts, Chase…other option is Najee, Williams, or Penei

      On D, Parsons.

      We should be able to get 2 of these.

      If not, yikes!

      Out, sorry.

  138. David Collins says:

    electric school buses , garbage trucks, and the trucking industry are coming, no more diesel fuel and urine, lol
    electric battery suppliers and other green tech stocks are exploding, Romeo Power makes the batteries, up 59 percent today , just getting started
    the US Economy will outpace China this year, and create alot of high paying jobs, converting away from fossil fuels

    • David Collins says:

      just had to say, this is exciting, lol

      but anyway, what were the panthers thinking, Darnold tosses interceptions left and right, he sucks!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Do you realize how many things we use daily that are made out of fossil fuel? We wouldn’t be blogging without it. At least not yet.

      Fossil fuel is not the problem, humans being fucking disgusting is the problem.

      • David Collins says:

        this isnt about whats the problem, its the direction the nation is going

        all the big names, kenworth, Peterbuilt, etc, school buses, and garbag trucks are already on converting to electric

        diesel is not part of the multi trillion dollar green infrastructure plan

      • David Collins says:

        of course fossil fuels are part of everyday life, but not such a big role in the future, they are obsolete

      • Tim Knight says:

        Batteries and tires are made out of fossil fuel just to name two important things. What are we doing there?

  139. David Collins says:

    Tim, there really isnt anything to debate, because, Im fully aware of what fossil fuels are, and what is made from them
    I also have My finger on the pulse of growing trends, and take advantage of them
    green tech stocks are booming, even today, while oil stocks were down,
    Green stocks were doing incredible!

    investors want to invest in tommorow, not yesterday, because the infrastructure plan will incorporate greener technology, this is what the nation has planned

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m all about green that makes sense. We probably won’t live to see what you’re talking about. By the way, fossil is natural. Everything on earth is made of natural elements. Human behavior is the culprit.

  140. David Collins says:

    the trucking industry has wanted this for along time, seen how much diesel fuel cost lately? and they have to mix the urine ( DEF) in with it, lol
    they are wanting to cut fuel and urine costs

  141. David Collins says:

    Tim, Goodyear has begun making tires from isopropene from trees, and plants, with no toxic waste left over
    they work better in cold and snow, than the fossil fuel tires

    • Tim Knight says:

      Fossil fuel is already made up of trees and plants. That’s what fossil is – dead life.

      • David Collins says:

        yes, but the processes are much different, and plants can be grown easier and cleaners, than sending money to saudi arabia , or drilling and polluting

        its the way of the future, will be better for the environment, and create alot of good jobs

      • Tim Knight says:

        Okay George Jetson. LOL

        This isn’t about politics, it’s about human behavior. We’ll all be dead before we see it come to fruition. Then we’ll have a new pollution we’re not prepared for. How do you dispense of all of the new products made of the same stuff? I guess sending it to space? How do we get to space, rockets using hemp? So the entire universe will be stoned. LOL

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        I bought Spacely Sprocket stock today

  142. bailbondmike says:

    Son, D has been talking up Jabril Cox for quite a while.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      He looks like he’d fit with us despite doing a lot of what Baker does. As a potential late second or third he’d be a nice player

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      I think he has a hamstring issue currently but that’s ok it April

  143. son of a son of a shula says:

    We should be getting the new schedule in a couple of weeks

  144. ocalarob says:

    Son who’s your Ndamukong son this year?

  145. mf13ss says:

    steveccnv says:
    April 5, 2021 at 10:32 pm
    I’m almost hoping Parsons doesn’t last too long, with NE sitting at 15
    ————–
    Then let us hope the Patsies* trade up for a QB… something that isn’t out of the realm of possibilities.

  146. mf13ss says:

    It’s 4/6/2021, and I feel we’re coming away with either Kyle Pitts or Ja’Marr Chase… with the possibility of DeVonta Smith, @ R1P6.

    IMO, do the due diligence (Steve Ross to accept Micah Parsons, first) where Micah could go in the Draft. Trade up from R1P18 if necessary (WITHOUT giving up R2P4)… it’s looking more and more likely that the RBs will be going in the 2nd round, but who knows.

    • ocalarob says:

      i’m thinking with Joe Burrow in Cincy, they should be all in on Chase, cincy has a history with drafting great wrs, burrow & chase have the chemistry already.

  147. Mike E. says:

    Chase to Miami

  148. wyoming85 says:

  149. The Flying Pig says:

    LMAO. The state of the jests

  150. The Flying Pig says:

    Sounds like some of you are coming around to the Jamarr Chase way of the draft

    It’s about time….

  151. steveccnv says:

    https://www.youtube.com/

    What a performance. I hope Watson gets the book thrown at him, but gimme a frigin break, those fake tears and snivels

  152. steveccnv says:

    Atlanta to draft Najee at 35, if he’s there

  153. ocalarob says:

    there’s some whispers about rashan slater @6

  154. ocalarob says:

    waddle was out performing smith before he got injured

  155. ocalarob says:

    Sewell at 6 is the best option IMO, if he’s there, Chase does not have elite break away speed, we have that type already on the roster.
    If Sewell is gone i think it will be a toss up between Pitts & Smith, i would think Smith is the favorite to land in Miami due to the chemistry with Tua.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Ja’marr Chase – 4.38 40
      Julio Jones – 4.39 40

      I would take a young Julio Jones any day.

      • steveccnv says:

        That’s not real, he runs closer to 4.5. I’d say in the 4.45 range.

        He is closer to what we already have, than Smith and Waddle, and the only true burner is Waddle

    • steveccnv says:

      Waddle has lack of production issues, Smith size issues, and Chase no real issues, but is a smaller version of what we have.

      I’m OK with a smaller version of what we have. Landry with more speed.

      I don’t know what the FO is thinking though, if they want some insurance for Fuller being one and done, then Waddle may be the guy, if they don’t care what Fuller does, then Chase, if they want unlimited potential with a frail frame, that they think they can make stronger, then Smith

  156. David Collins says:

    Tim, lol
    i realize that its tough to wrap Your head around this green deal, and i dont pretend to have ALL the answers on every specific detail of it. im an investor of the future, not a rocket scientist
    you are also incorrect that it wont happen soon, its happening now!

    FYI< investors are savvy to the future, have to be or wont be investors for long. i realize this sounds like George Jetson tech to You, but tires made from plants dates back to WW2
    this is ancient technology, just been too oil greedy to use it

    i dont know why You doubt this, but neither You or I can change it, lol
    when green tech stocks explode, it makes so much noise its tough to hear the naysayers
    why would i NOT invest in smart investments that will pay off? and these are the cream of the crop in the markets
    some people are resistant to change, the horse and buggy crowd howled about gasoline cars about 120 years ago, but it happened

  157. David Collins says:

    i bitched about my beeper becoming obsolete, lol

    cell phones are not better, because the wife can keep track of us with them, but couldnt with beepers, lol JK
    but now im not going back to beepers, smart phones are better than using public pay phones

  158. David Collins says:

    Quatar is the richest nation in the world, they export what? and who buys it? yea, but no

    thats the best idea We can come up with? give our money to arabs in Dubai, terrorists in Yemen, Saudi Arabia, and other nations halfway around the world while they laugh at us ?

    supporting terrorism for any reason, has never been a great idea

  159. bailbondmike says:

    He is always good for a laugh.

  160. steveccnv says:

    We’re on the clock and both Chase and Pitts are gone, you have Denver, cheats, Chicago and WTF wanting to move up.

    The cheats are likely out of a trade up with us, because of division rivals, what do you do?

    • steveccnv says:

      I’d trade down with one of them and not trade back up.

      With Denver take Smith, Waddle or Parsons. Comp will get us a 3rd+ a little more.

      With WTF and Chicago I’d go after an OLB. Comp 725 or 750, so a little less than we got from SF 1000pts

  161. bailbondmike says:

    I keep rerunning some mocks and really get stuck at #18. I have a hard time picking without wanting to trade down. So I finally did one and took who I thought was the BPA at #18.

    6 Kyle Pitts TE • Florida
    18 Rashawn Slater T • Northwestern
    36 Zaven Collins LB • Tulsa
    50 Javonte Williams HB • North Carolina
    81 Patrick Johnson ED • Tulane
    156 Tamorrion Terry WR • Florida State
    231 Michal Menet C • Penn State
    258 Chris Brown S • Texas

    Seems just ok. Kept missing on players I really wanted.

    I really like the idea of trading down at #18 and get and extra 2nd or more.

    • steveccnv says:

      Don’t really want an OT at 18, but since you got Collins and Williams following I love the first 4 selections. Never really pay much attention to the later picks

  162. steveccnv says:

    The SS says Fins have big decision to make on Gesicki.

    What decision? How much to pay him?

    Seems no brainer to me, can’t see him breaking the bank

  163. steveccnv says:

    In the 1st 3 rounds we need to come away with a pass catcher, Front 7, RB, anything else should be BPA.

    C and S would be next, but don’t reach.

    We really don’t know what Deiter and Tom have to offer at C, so we may be good there, and at S no idea what direction they want to go

  164. steveccnv says:

    My problem with trading down any further is now is the time to make a run, wait another year or 2 and we’re that much closer to a QB with a big cap hit

  165. steveccnv says:

    Field Yates
    @FieldYates
    ·
    2h
    Nike has suspended its endorsement of Deshaun Watson over sexual misconduct allegations, the company told
    @CNBC

    This is a surprise, thought they didn’t hold their own accountable
    .

  166. steveccnv says:

    He kicked our ass in the past

    Mike Garafolo
    @MikeGarafolo
    ·
    2h
    Gio Bernard asked for his release and the #Bengals granted it, source says. The team had asked him to take a pay cut two weeks into free agency, which hurt his chances of landing elsewhere. But he’s expected to find a new gig soon.

  167. steveccnv says:

    Omar Kelly
    @OmarKelly
    ·
    39m
    You know why it is leaking out that the Cowboys love Kyle Pitts? To ensure that the Florida tight end is taken in the top 6 spots.

    Not into rumors, but I hope he does go top 6, but not top 5

  168. pheloniusphish says:

    steveccnv says:
    April 7, 2021 at 9:50 am
    That’s not real, he runs closer to 4.5. I’d say in the 4.45 range.

    He is closer to what we already have, than Smith and Waddle, and the only true burner is Waddle
    ———_——————_—————
    Doe that mean Julio Jones’ wasn’t real either?

  169. steveccnv says:

    Shit is starting to get serious

    Sarah Barshop
    @sarahbarshop
    ·
    4m
    According to a source, Beats by Dre has ended its relationship with Deshaun Watson. Earlier today, Nike said in a statement that they have suspended their endorsement deal with the Texans’ quarterback.

  170. steveccnv says:

    John Jenkins contract is out, $956,618, only 106k net against the cap.

    New cap # $6,968,258

  171. steveccnv says:

    Unless we sign someone else, this cap space is close to what the rookies will cost.

    McKinney’s contract still to be reworked as the team said they would, adding up to 6m

  172. steveccnv says:

    The 40 times posted don’t mean a lot, it’s just ear candy.

    Teams in attendance at pro days keep their own times

  173. ocalarob says:

    steveccnv says:
    April 7, 2021 at 10:27 am
    I’d trade down with one of them and not trade back up.

    With Denver take Smith, Waddle or Parsons. Comp will get us a 3rd+ a little more.
    ____________________________________________________________________

    If this FO did that they should be fired, after all we were sitting at 12 and gave a 22 first rnder + to move to 6, you’re going to drop back to 9 for a 3rd?
    not on my payroll your not!

    • steveccnv says:

      We may have dropped to 6 to keep the cheats from getting a top 5 QB, at least that’s a rumor, and it does make sense

  174. stangerx says:

    The Bengals cut Giovani Bernard today. He was on the books for $4.1 million this season. He’s 29. Maybe not for us, but wouldn’t make a bad one-year sign for some team.

  175. ocalarob says:

    Over/under,
    what game will Tua be demoted & Brissett becomes the starter?

    Game 4, over or under?

  176. bailbondmike says:

    OK, I traded down from #18 to #25. May not get 3 picks like I did but would have been happy with just their 2nd and 3rd.

    6 Kyle Pitts TE • Florida
    25 Zaven Collins LB • Tulsa
    33 Javonte Williams HB • North Carolina
    36 Carlos Basham Jr.ED • Wake Forest
    45 Jabril Cox LB • LSU
    50 Landon Dickerson C • Alabama
    65 Tylan Wallace WR • Oklahoma State
    81 Talanoa Hufanga S • USC
    156 Bobby Brown III DI • Texas A&M
    231 Ian Book QB • Notre Dame
    258 Josh Ball T • Marshall

  177. bailbondmike says:

    IMO, with the gap between 81 and 156, I would not be surprised if we traded one or both 7th’s to move up somewhere in the draft and/or just trade 258 for a 2022 7th.

  178. Rockphin says:

    son of a son of a shula says:
    April 6, 2021 at 7:07 pm
    I bought Spacely Sprocket stock today

    SMH!

    Always behind the times Son! Any savvy investor would know that Cogswell’s Cogs was the way to go!

  179. steveccnv says:

    Field Yates
    @FieldYates
    ·
    32m
    Jaylen Waddle averaged an incredible 44.53 yards per TD catch on his 17 career scores through the air at Alabama.

  180. stangerx says:

    via Krebbs

    “Over The Cap has the Dolphins marked as the 9th youngest free agency class of 2021 as things currently stand, with an average age of 27.82 years of age.”

    • steveccnv says:

      There is a theme to what our FO wants to accomplish, but at some point it might be wise to get some 30 yr olds on the team.

      A pro of having a young team is they bound back quicker and might even avoid injuries older players get.

      We’ve made the FA mistake of having too many old players and had lots of guys out due to injury.

      The Lakers going after a Shaq last hurrah signed Malone, Nash, and Payton, when the finals rolled around everyone but Malone was hurt

      • stangerx says:

        Our players will get older and they’ll keep some of them. We talk about the Pats cause of Flores, but think the team building model is the Steelers. Build through the draft and sign the keepers to a 2nd contract.

        Those you let walk…. back to the draft. But obviously some FAs are involved too, just not as many.

        What we haven’t seen yet is whether they’ll plug in older vets when the time to contend is here like the Pats do.

  181. stangerx says:

    “The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department has released the cause of the February wreck where Tiger Woods suffered extensive injury: excessive speed of 82-87 mph in a 45-mph zone.”

    • steveccnv says:

      That curve is nasty, my brother’s friend got in a wreck there too, excessive speed was also the cause

    • steveccnv says:

      Sounds like they bent over backwards for Tiger, not to charge him, which I don’t have a problem with, since it was a single car accident, but at what point does he get it, that he’s not above the law?

      It’s his 3rd traffic related investigation

  182. Phindog says:

    Just got back from getting my 1st Pfizer shot. No problems so far.

  183. The Flying Pig says:

    Isn’t Landon Dickerson the guy we keep telling each other has a history of injury?

    We keep redrafting him in every mock…lol

  184. The Flying Pig says:

    Bc we all demanded it

  185. steveccnv says:

    Our govt is so stupid, there’s only so many vaccines available, so why are they wasting them on people that have the antibodies?

    This is going by what someone on here recently said, that they should get the same treatment as those with a vaccination card, because they may be less at risk, than someone that got vaccinated

  186. steveccnv says:

    In the ahh 4th rd of the NFL draft, pick 156, the Miami Dolphins select…Fansided

  187. pheloniusphish says:

    Read somewhere that the Moderna shot is only good for 6 months.

  188. Tim Knight says:

    Saw WR Jalen Camp from GT on GMF today and he’s really impressive. Not sure where he goes in the draft but he’s a big WR 6-2 220 did 30 reps of 225 and runs in the 4.4s. His dad owns a gym and is a personal trainer so that’s probably why he’s so strong. He came off as good dude, smart, got his degree and has a lot of experience blocking because of the system GT runs. His receiving numbers are very modest because of that but he looks the part.

  189. bailbondmike says:

    Jaylen Waddle averaged an incredible 44.53 yards per TD catch on his 17 career scores through the air at Alabama.
    ——————————————–
    FSU’s Tamorrian Terry, 6’4 210, 4.44 40, 50% of his TD’s were 50+ yards, 5 of the TD’s were 70+ yards.

    Draft Pitts at #6 and Terry later. Both Piggy and I posted him before.

    His speed also shows up on the field. Also, a little elusive for a big WR.

    Imagine all that size in the RZ, Parker, Pitts, Gesicki, Williams and Terry.

  190. pheloniusphish says:

    Fins on fest 2022:

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Very nice. Can’t have too many anti-zombie devices around these days. I’m just finishing my long range gun. DD5v1, Maputo PSR adjustable butt stock, NightForce NX8 2.5x20x50 MilRad scope, Magpul bipod, Heavy Buffer buffer and tuned buffer spring. Ordering a Dead Air Sandman S for it tonight.

  191. bailbondmike says:

    Steve (re: Terry), It is linked with some drops but I think it had a lot to do with poor QB play and constantly having to adjust to the ball but he gets credited with a drop. You can see just in the video how many passes he has to adjust to.

    • steveccnv says:

      He adjusts well and seems to be able to handle contested balls.

      What rd does he go?

      • steveccnv says:

        Being a gunner he could replace Hollins.

        Hollins has 337.5k dead money, not a lot, but why sign him to a 1 yr contract, pay him this bonus and cut him?

  192. steveccnv says:

    The downfall for Terry has been irratic quarterback play that’s lead to just a 52.5 percent catch rate on 181 targets. The return of …

    I’d give him a shot, especially after taking Pitts at 6, instead of another WR

  193. stangerx says:

    The NFL sure is a different world, as shown by this comment from an evaluation of Rashawn Slater……”he’s just a little on the smaller side at just 6-foot-4-¼ and 304 pounds”

    Biggest dude by far everywhere he goes except….

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