“The Underwear Olympics” as some people call it. Regardless of that smear, I feel like the combine has its place, and just like any piece of information, if you’re doing your analysis correctly, it’s another piece of data you use to form your final report, not the only piece. The problem of not having a NFL Combine is the information you get from Pro Days, which are not sanctioned by the NFL, can be slanted, or maybe I should just say ARE slanted. Each college program wants their athletes to succeed because it helps their program succeed. It seems like all the top WR prospects that actually ran at their Pro Day ran sub 4.4 times. It’s not impossible that it’s true, but more than likely those hand held timers (homers) shaved a bit to make that happen. I like when each player is running on the same strip of turf and timed by the same guys and called out if they lean a little too forward or don’t start from the right position. Geez, these guys don’t even wear shirts anymore! Will they be running in jock straps soon, or maybe without them? I suspect that next year we’ll be back to the good ole combine as it was and they will have to wear shorts, shirts and those dreaded heavy numbers on the shirts that most likely easily add a few tenths of a second to all timed events.
Now on to Dolphins news, even if it’s old news. The Dolphins were involved in 2 trades, likely synchronized trades with both the San Francisco 49ers and the Philadelphia Eagles. The net result of both trades for the 2021 draft is that the Miami Dolphins will now pick at #6 in RD1 instead of #3, but we have acquired no further compensation in this draft. That compensation doesn’t arrive until 2022 and 2023. We still have picks 6, 18, 36, 50, 81, 156, 231 and 258. Definitely top heavy with two selections in each of the first 2 rounds and no 4th RD selection. I wouldn’t be surprised if we trade up or trade back and either lose a pick or gain a pick here and there. The most important thing is finding players that make your team better, no matter when you are selecting. We have flexibility and draft capital to get what we want, so now we hope that we want is on target. The Dolphins have also signed DT John Jenkins to a 1 year contract. Jenkins last played DT/DE for the Dolphins in 2019 and spent 2020 with the Chicago Bears.
Offense or defense? Which side gets the first pick? I still believe it’s offense, but I’m not convinced it’s DeVonta Smith or Kyle Pitts. If we do go WR I think it’s going to be Ja’Marr Chase. If we go OL I think it’s either going to be Penei Sewell or Rashawn Slater. A lot of you seem to be on the Parson’s train but I don’t think we’re going there. If I were GM, priority #1 would be helping Tua become the QB that can take this team deep into the playoffs. I personally believe that Tua will be a better QB regardless of the players we bring in because he’s a winner and he’s working so hard to be the best he can be, but adding talent around him makes that concept closer to reality. Even if Allen Hurns and Albert Wilson came back to a level close to their previous best, can you count on either of them to finish the season? Both were out all last season and have a lot of catching up to do to get back into football shape. Can DeVante Parker ever have a full season where he’s healthy and basically the same for Will Fuller? Can you lean on Jakeem Grant as a WR and not just an electric return man? Can TE Mike Gesicki really get to the level of a Travis Kelce or Darren Waller? I think he can but that would require him being a much bigger part of the offense, and over his first 3 seasons, he’s yet to eclipse 100 or more targets in a season. Compared to the aforementioned Kelce and Waller, both had 145 targets last season and although both had less targets in 2019, 136 and 117 respectively, each still topped 100 easily. So does that mean TE/WR Kyle Pitts is more likely? If it were me, I’d go WR all the way, we have a really nice TE corps right now with Gesicki, Smythe (who improved last season as a pass catcher), Shaheen, Cethan Carter and Chris Myarick. Smythe is a solid blocker and Shaheen is another big bodied TE that caught 3 TD’s last season. When I look at the WR corps, unfortunately I keep coming up with more questions than answers. Parker, Fuller, Williams, Hurns, Wilson, Bowden, Perry, Grant, and Hollins. Who is the one guy in that bunch that you can count on? Realistically, the answer is none of the above. That’s why my best guess is Chase, and not Smith. I think we need a reliable target, one who has ability but also has availability. I do think that Smith’s size is going to keep him off our roster and the huge consolation prize after Smith who is truly an elite route running WR is Ja’Marr Chase. Mark it down folks, that’s my pick and I believe it will be our pick as well.
Finsmob Unleashed 
I think Jaylen Waddle is vastly underrated by most in the media and our fan base. If his ankle is fine (and it probably is), he’s going to be elite in the NFL.
So even if Pitts, Chase, and DeVonta are all off the board when we select (not going to happen!), we’re safe with Waddle. What’s more, we may rank Waddle higher than most… for all we know, he could be WR2 on our board… maybe even WR1, though I doubt it.
I think Jaylen Waddle is my ‘dark horse’ candidate for R1P6.
And we trade down a couple/few spots from R1P6, there’s a possibility he’s still there for the taking. Same goes for DeVonta Smith.
Think a more likely scenario is that they are just fine with Waddle if they move down to #8 or #9, but could very well be that Waddle is actually the wideout they’d had their eyes on all along.
Piggy – Of course I am man! Just fucking around
M13
I actually;lay think I like waddle more than Smith
*actually
I’m not sure between Waddle and Smith. I won’t be surprised if Smith has a great NFL career
What I like about Smith is seems he has a better game. And when you are 170 pounds you need to develop that instead of just blowing the competition away with your beastliness. Whatever he did in college along those lines should translate well to the NFL.
I think Waddle is going to be a real good player in the NFL. He’s a WR, he can run jet sweeps and returns. Explosive player.
“Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis issued an executive order Friday prohibiting businesses from requiring customers to show proof they have received COVID vaccines and preventing the state government from issuing so-called “vaccine passports.”
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So in a public health crisis my governor wants to stop people from proving they have been vaccinated and businesses from setting up different protocols for those who have been. Your choice not to get vaccinated. Shouldn’t mean your options are the same.
Why shouldn’t I have the same options? I choose not to get it right now and maybe never. I will raise hell if a business decides to discriminate against me. If I get it, it’s my fault.
Getting the COVID shot does not make you “immune” to getting COVID. It helps your body build up the antibodies to fight it better if you get it. Basically, it puts you ahead of the game. That goes with many immunizations.
I don’t know why people think once they get the shot they have this total immunity. It don’t work like that. You get the flu shot to help you fight the current strain for that year but you are not immune from it. You can still catch the flu.
That is why vaccine passports are bullshit.
BBM,
100% agreed. And now, the gov (Fauci) is talking about the new strains/mutations. When will this BS ever end? And what ever happened to the flu?
BBM — people who have been vaccinated have less chance of getting Covid. From a public health perspective that has to come into play. Say I just got a Covid positive test….. should I be mixed in with everyone else? Protocols now says quarantine. Obviously that’s extreme, but mixing vaccinated people closer together than others is not.
If someone who has COVID coughs in someone’s face who got the COVID shot who then passes by another who had not received a COVID shot and coughs is their face, they can still pass it on to that 3rd person. BUT, we are to have different protocols. SMH
Shucks…may as well get your tattoo now.
Happy Easter folks!
stangerx says:
April 4, 2021 at 3:36 pm
…Your choice not to get vaccinated. Shouldn’t mean your options are the same.
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That sounds very totalitarian to me, Stanger. Like Pig, I’m not going to call anybody a Nazi… but damn, what you just said above is approaching the danger zone as it pertains to freedom.
Totalitarian? It is just common sense. Some teams are already setting up vaccinated only sections and cruise lines cruises for vaccinate people only.
We’ll agree to disagree on what is “common sense”.
Wow, that is just scary to me. I don’t like that at all.
Bookman — just reporting what has already happened. And the same gov who is against this banned people from certain other states like NY some months ago. What’s the difference?
*in my Bernie Mac voice*: Dammit, y’all! I don’t want to be talking about politics in here today, on an Easter Sunday! Let’s try to along on this Sunday, you sum-um-um bitches! Why y’all got to trap me in your BS!
LOL! 😀 😉
I think it is a slippery slope to issue vaccine passports and for business to ask to see them so they can set up different protocols.
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When will this BS ever end?
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I don’t know. It probably depends on how much stock Fauci and others own in big pharma companies making the vaccine. Once they get to about 200 mil people vaccinated you will start hearing reports that you need to get a booster shot or a new vaccine for a mutated strain just like the flu shot every year. By then, you or your insurance will probably have to pay for it.
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You are probably right in most of that, but same time a lot of people have died and the vaccine is going to stop a bunch more from doing so.
What is the difference btwn airlines (and the US gov) requiring Covid negative tests before flying and a Chili’s having a vaccine only section where they don’t do every other table?
This is only going to end in an endless debate: I tap out.
Stanger,
What is more important to you, seriously: an EDGE or a RB?
I ask because that is what’s likely to happen with our R1P18 selection. Personally, I can’t make my mind up!
Today (and today ONLY!), I’m thinking Parsons @ R1P6 (that addresses our EDGE), and Najee Harris @ R1P18 (that addresses another receiver position, while obtaining a great POWER rusher).
How does that address a receiver option with Najee? He’s an excellent route-runner, has great hands, and is dynamic out of the backfield.
I’ll jump in. Edge is more important but depends on value. I think we’ll come away with one at some point and a RB. It’s not like we don’t have some solid RBs. But we really need another LB/Edge player.
Edge. RB in the 2nd or a trade up to the late 1st.
Say I just got a Covid positive test….. should I be mixed in with everyone else?
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Hell no! Stay your ass at home! lol
We are not talking about people who test positive. We are talking about those who don’t have COVID and have got the shot vs. those who don’t have COVID and have not got the shot. Should not matter and should be treated the same. Otherwise, govt. is forcing those who choose not to get it to have to get it against their wishes and in some cases against their religious beliefs.
Refer to what M13 said.
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Understand that was an extreme example, but brought up to point out you can take measures to fight Covid.
Let’s look at it another way. If I own a bed & breakfast (live there) and only want guests who have been vaccinated….. should the government insist otherwise?
Nope!
But you shouldn’t have to bake a cake for someone you don’t want to either!
The government should have ZERO say. Allow private businesses to operate as they wish, whether it’s pro-COVID or anti-COVID. It’s not that difficult. We’re not talking about something akin to the Great (bubonic) Plague. It’s the flu, for crying out loud.
Wyoming — completely agree. What happened at that bakery was not a time to go to court. Might be a legit time for “cancel culture” though.
M13 — 550k have died. That’s one heck of a flu.
Tim Knight says:
April 4, 2021 at 4:34 pm
I’ll jump in. Edge is more important but depends on value. I think we’ll come away with one at some point and a RB. It’s not like we don’t have some solid RBs. But we really need another LB/Edge player.
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Agreed, but for that we have some solid RBs. I mean, they’re alright, but I wouldn’t call them solid. JMO
I want to come away with an ELITE RB, Tim. It’s been far too long. Again, JMO
I’d like a big time RB as well but I think Gaskin and Ahmed played pretty damn well for us. I also happen to like Brown. I said after we played the Rams last year we could use a back like him to add to the mix so I was happy we signed him. I think the OL progressing helps even average backs to be more productive. Whatever happens we need to add at least one nice offensive weapon. But pass rush is still a must for us.
M13, there’s a lot of good prospects that I like for us. We’re going to just have to see how it plays out. 4 picks in the top 50 is pretty damn sweet.
Know what that’s called… wait for it… wait for it…
WINNING!!!
LOL
stangerx says:
April 4, 2021 at 4:38 pm
Edge. RB in the 2nd or a trade up to the late 1st.
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Agreed! And, on all accounts!
Another thing, I truly believe I had a small bout with it last Nov. Symptoms only last 2 days though I self quarantined for 2 weeks. I should already have antibodies to fight off future exposures/infects so I should not have to get one right now or for a while.
I have the same antibodies as someone who got the shot but I should be discriminated against for not getting the shot.
Bro, I KNOW I had it in December of ’19. I was ill for about 2 weeks, battled through it, and only missed 3 hours of work at my regular job. My whole fam got infected with the same results.
Now then… most of you libs will find this to be astonishing… I don’t believe this virus was hatched from the Wuhan lab in question, or at least as the story goes. In fact, we’ve found that Italy had exposure to the virus in July of ’19.
Curious, is it not?
I’d be all for anyone who has the antibodies getting same status as those vaccinated.
“Status”?
Getting the same less likely to get Covid card as those who have been vaccinated. Explain it?
BBM
You bring up an excellent point about the antibodies in those that have had it. I did in fact have it, do I get a passport if I have the antibody test?
NO! YOU DON’T! You and I get to wear a mask for the rest of our lives… according to these so-called ‘experts’ like Fauci.
Bookman, I’m so happy we buried the hatchet, my Brother! Love ya, man!
Maybe those that get the vaccine or have had the virus can get a special mark placed on their bodies so everyone knows, and can see. I think I saw this in a movie somewhere… smh
Right? Or the book of REVELATION?
Happy Easter to you, Bookman!
Happy Easter to you.
I went to school with my vaccine card when was young. Had to have it complete cause of state law. So really don’t get why a Covid card touches such a nerve. And have my eye on a cruise that would require one. So yeah matters to me.
Tim Knight says:
April 4, 2021 at 4:53 pm
I’d like a big time RB as well but I think Gaskin and Ahmed played pretty damn well for us. I also happen to like Brown. I said after we played the Rams last year we could use a back like him to add to the mix so I was happy we signed him. I think the OL progressing helps even average backs to be more productive. Whatever happens we need to add at least one nice offensive weapon. But pass rush is still a must for us.
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Agreed, again. You and I think very much alike… and we always have. I just want it all!
We also see that teams find good RBs outside the 1st and 2nd rounds. If you can block it you can run. Maybe you don’t get spectacular plays, but solid yardage helps the passing game and the defense. We’ve watched the Pats do it for years and it wasn’t just because of Brady. The Pats could always block their plays.
I’m excited to see who we draft. This draft is huge for us to take the next step.
Aye, BBM. This is Tom MacDonald’s latest… it wasn’t what I expected, but it’s still alright…
I own a bed & breakfast (live there) and only want guests who have been vaccinated
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That’s what I was trying to point out earlier.
You have a guest coming to your B&B who got the COVID shot. His Uber driver has COVID and been hacking all day in the vehicle. He congregates with other guests spreading COVID germs he just got from his Uber driver. The next day the couple he had drinks with at your B&B, the dudes wife can’t taste anything and is feeling like shit but she got the shot. She got COVID but next day she feels great. She had the antibodies to fight it off much faster from the shot. Getting the shot does not make you 100% immune from getting the disease or passing it on to others.
Another thing to point out is that just because you got the shot does not mean it worked, meaning gave you the antibodies to fight COVID. It is rare but does happen. It happens more frequently when you are receiving a multi shot vaccination like HEP B.
Being in health care I was vaccinated for HEP A and HEP B. Two years down the road I had blood work done and found out I was not vaccinated against HEP B. The vaccine didn’t “take”. My body did not develop the antibodies it was supposed to. I had to get revaccinated.
Just because you got the shot does not mean you developed the antibodies to fight it without actually getting a blood test done.
Stanger, I’m not really into this discussion tired of it, but I never carried a vaccine card. What one did you have to carry?
Mom and I went to pre-register and the vaccine card was presented. State law required a number of vaccines for any student. Law might be different where you grew up, but way it worked in CT….. and there are required vaccines in most states.
I remember getting a polio shot when I was really young, that multiple pronged shot on the shoulder where that mark disappeared over time, but never had a card. Never heard of that.
He didn’t you caught him
stangerx says:
April 4, 2021 at 5:05 pm
Getting the same less likely to get Covid card as those who have been vaccinated. Explain it?
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Again, this is NOT the Bubonic plague. I don’t understand why we suddenly became deathly afraid of the flu. COVID is the flu, albeit a slightly more aggressive strain than usual. This happens regularly in cycles and is nothing out of the ordinary.
What you fail to realize is that the CDC and WHO have been counting non-COVID deaths as COVID deaths.
Look at it like this… I’ve had COVID and recovered, just like any other flu… thus, it’s been in me and it can be medically verified that I had it, postmortem. IT didn’t kill me! But that one time I tried to fight Mike Tyson in the ring, he KILLED ME!
Well, it would have been counted as a COVID death under the CDC and WHO rules, being COVID had been in my system once upon a time… never mind that it wasn’t my cause of death, it was my ill decision to fight Mike Tyson!
I’ve said for 9+ months the numbers are BS, they use them when it benefits them
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Even though there’s been as many deaths under biden as Trump
All was trying to say was having Covid anti-bodies should be counted the same as getting the vaccine.
If you think a good portion of the Covid deaths actually weren’t because of Covid…. then the way you view them. My view is more people died than in WW2…. but just my take and that of our health experts.
Our political health experts
Congrats, you’ve been successfully scared into obeying their orders. That reminds me of 1… 2… 3… 44… 187… 211… 911… 5150 times in our human history that the populous was scared into submission to the state.
And our non-political health experts. Ask your doctor.
And many examples have been given in the last year, but you still go with the opinion of the MSM, and reject what right in front of your face. I could say the same about election fraud
M13 — that comment is a bit scary.
steve — lets say I am wrong. How do you know I am? Where do you get the correct info on what is actually happening that is not in the news? Clearly you have some inside scoop on this and many other subjects.
M13, I caught TM’s latest yesterday. First I thought corny for TM, then thought they were just having fun and it turned out to be funny to watch/listen to. Nova is incredible doing these videos considering they do it all themselves. Got a serious Blink 182 vibe from it.
They said these 3 weeks would be different and they were. I think my fav of the 3 was CHURCH.
He’s an INCREDIBLE talent, to be sure! Happy that we both enjoy his talents, Brother!
Yes, thank you!
I’m going to drop this right here and run. Mike Lindell is somebody who is very difficult to listen to, as he constantly interrupts and tries to be a great moderator. But seriously, this needs to be heard/seen by the American public… regardless of ones political affiliation. Both LEFT and RIGHT need to watch this…
https://rumble.com/vf8f8b-episode-839-scientific-proof-mike-lindells-new-documentary-on-the-stolen-el.html
Yeah right, it’s like they gaslight themselves, they won’t change their opinion based on video evidence.
As Twain said, it’s easier to fool them, than convince them they’ve been fooled…even if the ones fooling them are the ones telling them they’ve been fooled.
I don’t really believe they’ve been fooled, they just won’t tell us how they really feel
Can’t you just sum up what the My Pillow guy has to say? Was sorta thinking would get his thoughts in the $1.3 Billion defamation trial reports.
What I was getting at in my last post about COVID is, how many millions of people got the 2 shot series but did not stick to the proper interval between shots? Whether it was due to unforeseen circumstances and/or unavailability. That is the main cause for a multi dose vaccine not to “take”.
How many did not build proper immunity or no immunity at all due to that?
But they should get a vaccine passport and I should be discriminated against though I may have better immunity than them.
No one would really know unless we all get an antibody test.
Not trying to argue. Just trying to explain why I back the gov on this one.
I don’t think we’re going to take an edge guy or LB with our first pick at all. We might take one at #18, but I really feel pretty sure we’re going offense with pick #1, whether it’s WR, TE or OL
I could see that. I like Edge Jaelan Phillips at #18. He looks the part.
On COVID-19, I definitely think the numbers are inflated, but I have no idea by how much, probably a smaller percentage than even the hardest core disbeliever thinks.They seemed to go out of their way to link COVID into deaths whether it was the main cause or not, but I suppose they have the right to do that since it was present. I do believe the Government likes to control their citizens, and the fact that cities and states run by the left are much stricter in their enforcement of COVID safety measures and penalties and the like proves that out. In the Tri-State area, we’re at the mercy of Emperor Cuomo, who wags his finger and his Democratic cronies in NJ and CT (Murphy and Lamont) jump like trained dogs. Not so sure about Lamont but Murphy has followed Cuomo’s lead like a good dance partner since the COVID crisis began.
Mike, I liked the mock the guys on NFLN did for us the other day.
#6 TE Kyle Pitts
#18 Edge Jaelan Phillips
#36 Edge Joe Tryon
#50 RB Javonte Williams
Yeah, that works. I like Javonte Williams, I like runners who run mean
Same here. I think Williams/Brown as thumpers and Gaskin/Ahmed as more elusive is a nice backfield.
As a Corpsman with the Marines, I have given thousands of immunizations over 15.5 years serving with them. Just ask the Marines on this board. The biggest time Marines hated us “Docs” was when we held “Shot Call”. lol
I also worked with an Epidemiologist (like Fauci) for 2 years while I worked at the MCRD Paris Island Clinic. We did all kinds of crazy studies on the recruits while they were going through recruit training. We got 10’s of thousands of dollars from different major universities to conduct various tests on the recruits.
For the record, the recruits participated voluntarily. We did nothing without their knowledge.
That was back in 95′-97′. I haven’t killed off all those brain cells yet and still remember some things from back then.
I believe there are facts and tidbits Fauci and CDC are not putting out about vaccine effectiveness in relation to creating proper antibodies. They don’t need to either as it would be counter productive and may deter people from getting it. You need to get as many vaccinated as possible to squash the disease. See squashed diseases from years past.
We have the results put out from the pharma companies themselves. They say 75% effective, 94% effective, 96% effective, etc. Ok, take the 94% effective, what about the other 6% not effective? That’s 60,000 people out of every 1,000,000 where the vaccine didn’t do it’s thing
So 60,000 people where the vaccine was not effective out of every 1,000,000 get to go in the club with their vaccine passport while I have try and sneak in the back door only to get my ass kicked by bouncers while I yell at the people in line, “Those are six percenters! Those are six percenters!”. Then I go to jail for disturbing the peace and stuck in a holding cell with a dozen other poor fuckers who DON’T have a vaccine passport either. I guess that will be the only place you will be able to get into without one. lol
I just choose not to get one now and don’t feel I should be discriminated against for that decision.
But it really wouldn’t be discrimination. You could get the shots is you chose. More like “no shirt, no shoes, no service.” Anyone can put on a shirt.
I also shouldn’t have to get injections of dead proteins from a virus just to get into Dave & Busters.
BBM — whatever you do to get into Dave & Busters would be worth it ….. least if it is the Fest. 🙂
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/double-mutant-covid-19-variant-found-in-the-bay-area/2509887/
Yeah, but the bay area is known for it’s nasty diseases. lol
They seemed to go out of their way to link COVID into deaths whether it was the main cause or not
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They also have gone out of their way to UNLINK immediate death (w/in 2 days) post COVID vaccination from the actual COVID vaccination.
I guess they have to in order to reach heard status and not deter people from getting the shot(s).
FWIW – I have my appointment to get shot #1 tomorrow morning at 8:15AM.
And mine is 12:45 on Tues. Gonna be a big relief.
Stick to your proper interval. lol
I will! Promise! 🙂
Good job Mike E. The more people vaccinated the faster this gets behind us
Mike E. says:
April 4, 2021 at 6:47 pm
FWIW – I have my appointment to get shot #1 tomorrow morning at 8:15AM.
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make sure you get the double mutant shot.
This stuff you guys keep putting out about Sidney Powell is a lie, she never said, that no one should’ve taken her serious
Why is Covid such a big topic today?
stangerx says:
April 4, 2021 at 5:49 pm
steve — lets say I am wrong. How do you know I am? Where do you get the correct info on what is actually happening that is not in the news? Clearly you have some inside scoop on this and many other subjects.
Let’s say you’re wrong?
I don’t believe for 1 second half of what you write here is what you believe. You’re too smart for that.
When you have health professionals, that are risking their careers, putting out interviews and undercover videos showing what’s really going on, that makes more sense than what Fauci is saying.
Also get info from health care people, and I believe it, because it makes sense
steve — why would I lie? I believe the medical info we base our national policy on. Is that such a stretch?
More like “no shirt, no shoes, no service.” Anyone can put on a shirt.
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Stanger, I am a believer in the effectiveness of vaccinations so don’t get me wrong.
But what about the 6%? The 60,000 out of every 1,000,000?
They are on the same level as me but they get a passport cause they went though the pain of getting a needle in the arm and injected with a foreign substance.
They are still walking in with no shirt and shoes.
Why is Covid such a big topic today?
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Lack of NFL news, lol. I looked everywhere for some. lol
Just wondering if today something happened.
Just this:
“Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis issued an executive order Friday prohibiting businesses from requiring customers to show proof they have received COVID vaccines and preventing the state government from issuing so-called “vaccine passports.”
Some of that could be due to all the injuries at WR and opt outs. But still an argument for Pitts.
stangerx says:
April 4, 2021 at 5:52 pm
Can’t you just sum up what the My Pillow guy has to say? Was sorta thinking would get his thoughts in the $1.3 Billion defamation trial reports.
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So you didn’t watch the evidence presented, I presume? Burying your head in the sand isn’t going to make evidence go away, ya know.
That’s what they do
Then respond with some condescending remark
That’s pretty much how I felt with Stanger’s response to several of us today.
Stanger, NOT trying to pick on you, but you really did come out as condescending. Just sayin’…
If it came out as condescending then I’m sorry. Assume you know the guy does face a billion dollar law suit.
M13 — it was a 48 minute vid that no I did not watch. And everything have seen from the My Pillow guy before has made him look like a buffoon. Like said there will be stories about his defamation suit in the months to come, including what he has said.
That doesn’t dismiss the evidence he’s brought forth.
Biden is a buffoon too, you have no problem listening to what he has to say
It is legal for a business to discriminate against someone who has not been vaccinated because unvaccinated people are not a protected class of people under our civil rights laws which makes it unlawful to discriminate against individuals in a protected class such as race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation and the like
Not in a protected class ^
It’s funny, though… is it not? 15 years ago, you’d likely have been arguing AGAINST businesses and their rights. I mean you no disrespect when I say this… just stating that North has become South, East has become West, and people are blindly following a political party.
When did you become a defender of business, as a liberal Dem? Honest question.
I wish I had you as my lawyer about 10 years ago, when I realized the Dems were taking over BIG BIZ. You would have done everything in your power to stick it to BIG BIZ, without realizing the Dems were taking it over.
10 years later, my how your tune has changed… now you want to protect the very thing you once fought against.
I was not making an argument I was stating what the law is not identifying my personal belief
Alright, that’s fair, Ken. I don’t dislike you, either!
Hey, man… Happy Easter!
Funny how liberal icons of the past — say JFK and George Carlin — would have been far-right of Donald Trump today. It really wasn’t that long ago!
THINK!!!
I’m done talking about politics today, and I hate that I even did. Now go read the Federalist Papers, my fellow Americans.
In the meantime, I’m back to football.
It is legal for a business to discriminate against someone who has not been vaccinated
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Well, I think it is BS and glad my gov thinks so as well.
I ENVY your GOV! Ron DeSantis ROCKS!
I agree, I’m moving back to FL
It might be legal, but that doesn’t make it right.
It’s also legal for a homeless person in SF to shit on your doorstep
I get my 1st shot weds at 10am but I’m on my 4th shot right now. 🥃🥃🥃🥃🐕👍
Again, as long as you are keeping with up with the proper intervals. lol
After the 6th shot I forget were I should be as far as intervals. Damnit Janet !! 😳
did you get your rabies shot yet?
I think when the trade was made our FO thought Pitts would be there for sure at 6, now I bet they’re sweating it out.
I think they would still make the trade today.
Since we didn’t get good value in the trade it tells me we were more motivated, than Philly
I bet they have multiple scenarios, either way i’d bet they are good with #6, Pitts may not be their #1 choice, it may be Smith.
I think Chase is a devante parker clone and we already have him, Chase will beat up DBs but he won’t out manuever them like Smith will, the thing about Smith is, can he get off the line against an NFL CB?
as for Pitts, you have to like what he brings to the table, with Gesicki becoming a UFA in 22, he may be ahead of chase in the pecking order.
i expect either Pitts or Smith @ #5
@6
“We’re so stupid following our politicians, whether they are Republicans or Democrats,” Barkley continued
“And their only job is, ‘Hey, let’s make these people not like each other. We don’t live in their neighborhoods. We all got money. Let’s make the whites and Blacks not like each other. Let’s make rich people and poor people not like each other. Let’s scramble the middle class.’ I truly believe that in my heart.”
Charles Barkley? I like Sir Charles, he tells it like it is.
Someone posted a song here about 3 weeks ago, stating the same.
We the people need to unite against the politicians
Trump for pres in 24, My Pillow Guy VP!
worst post ever, SMH did u not know that trump stole his supporters money with recurring credit card charges? u have google in slowcala?
and pillow guy is mentally retarded?
lol
we dont need losers and thieves like that, they need to go to jail
economy is hot, jobs report on friday was way up, and markets are spicy,
S and P set an all time record Friday, first time over 4,000
the nation is recovering quickly from the trump mishandled virus, no need to go back to more death and lies from the fired president
now i know why rob had an economic collapse, he gave trump his credit card number, lol
supportive fools and their money were PARTED by the thief trump, lol
told ya so, cant trust a liar and a thief
orob, while you are waiting 4 years for your liar and thief to return, make some money in Bidens markets, no need to wallow in economic ruin, lol
wise Americans invest in clean infrastructure, huge gains
unless donors inspected the fine print of an online disclaimer and manually unchecked an opt-out box, the donor’s credit card would be charged weekly until Election Day arrived.
he was forced to return 122 million dollars.
thats called dark patterns, its designed to steal money from the ones that supported trump the most
thats trumps loyalty to his financial contributors, SMH
More conspiracy crap
Was listening to Torrey Holt on NFL radio on my way home from COVID shot #1. He says he thinks Ja’Marr Chase is the top of the draft of the class, easily. He said it’s a coin flip between DeVonta Smith and Jaylen Waddle which is pretty much how I feel. We didn’t go to #6 to get one specific player, makes no sense because he may not be there. We probably have at least 3 players we’d be happy to have on our team.
i agree that Chase is the top talent, the guy can do it all against press or zone
One team the Chicago Bears could find success trading with is the Miami Dolphins.
The Dolphins are, quite frankly, on the upswing while the Bears continue to stand still. Miami looks as though they are standing behind second-year quarterback Tua Tagovailoa and are ready to surround him with talent in order to make a playoff run this coming season.
The Bears, meanwhile, still lack an identity at the position.
Miami has done a nice job over the last year or so in acquiring plenty of draft capital while also attempting to solidify the most important position in football. With their current capital, there are several scenarios that could arise in which the Bears try to land one of their picks in this year’s draft.
Just how would Chicago go about it? A couple of different possibilities come to mind.
Khalil Mack?
Yeah, throw him in and we can talk
In moving up to the sixth selection, Chicago would send Miami their no. 20 pick this year, a first next year, a first in 2023 and a third-round pick this year.
Right Fansided, so the same comp as the trade down to 12, but this one should get us 150 more points, not happening.
A 2nd weak trade proposal was p 6 and Parker for 20 and Hurns + a 2022 1st. Gimme a break with these one sided trades
I think Chicagos growth was stunted by the oakland/mack deal
Yeah, so they should do it again
David, you’re off the chain buddy, your presumptions of my financial affairs are psychotic, you don’t know me or my financial status.
you’re full of advice, if i were to take your advice i would do it in reverse, what ever you suggest i do the opposite.
you should seek a mental health expert.
He has, part of his therapy is to come here and get all of his crazy BS out
Interesting tidbit
based upon 2000 – 2016 – 17 drafts
I posted that crap last week. Crabbs has an article out that uses it as a reference, saying we should be weary of a WR at 6.
This article is a good example of why I hate most stats, it lacks a reason why WRs don’t stay with their drafted team. Are they too expensive, or what?
Pretty sure our FO isn’t worried about it, just like they weren’t last year at QB
So few centers are taken in RD 1, maybe that’s why the hit percentage is much higher. Every other position is pretty well represented in RD 1 though, which makes their hit percentage lower.
That and their 2nd contracts don’t break the bank.
In other words any C taken in round 1 whether they are great or just average us good enough
There’s only been 8 taken since 2000, including the 2 Pouncey’s, and none since 2013, when Dallas took Fredrick, so yeah that stat is kind of weak
Right now it appears Chase and Pitts are the front runners at 6, but that’s in the eyes of the media.
I’m pretty sure that’s not what our FO is thinking, I’d bet they have a trade to 8 or 9 on their minds.
If both Chase and Pitts are gone, no reason for me to stay at 6, with QB 4 and maybe QB still on the board.
Sure would be nice to trade with Detroit and get that 1st pick in the 2022 draft😉
Only 24 days left to wait until we are on the clock!
This is why I believe KVN and Lawson are gone.
The Dolphins’ pass rush was the fourth-slowest in the league last season to gain 5-yards of depth after the snap. Could some of that be by design based on contain rushes and Miami’s general strategy of how to attack the pocket? Surely. And that likely may be the case. But regardless what the context of Miami’s shortcomings are in rushing the passer, the team needs more explosiveness off the edge even if the Dolphins aren’t aggressively attacking the pocket by design.
And why I think, if we do go Edge at 18 it may be someone like Phillips.
“(Phillips’) burst from the line of scrimmage to 5 yards traveled after the snap was third-best in the FBS last season, and the Dolphins’ front had the fourth-slowest burst in the league,” wrote Frelund.
I think with the scheme we can accomplish the same passrush as last year with the guys we have currently, and maybe better with McKinney, and AVG used more.
Phillips is quicker and more position flexible, than Rousseau. I think Rousseau would get more sacks, but less pressures or quick pressures
Jenkins contract, but he only made 1.1m last year, so I expect similar and to only take about another 300k off of the cap.
We should see some extra cap space once McKinney gets reworked, then once our WR room is figured out right before the season starts.
Rumor has it that instead of a 4th preseason game their will be a week off.
During that week we’ll surely be trying to trade off guys like Grant, Wilson, Hurns and maybe other WRs, with a return like a 7th
I like Phillips but am very very hesitant of drafting him. He has had MAJOR concussion issues to the point he retired from football and left UCLA. Went back to school at UM pursuing music then ended up coming back to football. Some say he is one more concussion from being out of football for good. Shame cause he is a hell of a talent. Article:
https://withthefirstpick.com/2021/01/25/jaelan-phillips-injury-concerns/
Good to know. I wouldn’t touch him
I wasn’t aware of that. That sucks!
So do you guys agree with Allen Poupart from Sports Illustrated on his assessments below? I kind of feel the same overall with a grain of “let’s wait and see” thrown in.
https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/news/miami-dolphins-breakdown-of-where-they-stand-on-defense-compared-to-the-end-of-the-2020-season
DEFENSIVE LINE – Verdict: Clearly better
EDGE DEFENDERS – Verdict: Worse
LINEBACKER – Verdict: Clearly better
SECONDARY – Verdict: Better
I left out the list of off-season moves and his summary of how he came to the opinions above but you can read them in the link I copied.
I read it and I agree, but once we get an Edge/OLB in the draft we might be better off at Edge.
Addition by subtraction with Van Noy and Lawson, because we need a speed upgrade, and the things KVN and Lawson did well should be replaced by run support of McKinney and Jenkins.
We may already be better off without KVN, by giving AVG more reps.
The secondary you could say will be worse or the same, just based on X not getting 10 ints in 2021.
Mostly I agree though
This is in response to that Chicago trade that was mentioned above.
How many picks do we need to acquire? The idea is to turn them into players who help you win games, not just keep collecting them.
ahhhh but IF you can do both then you are golden. Seldom does history prove out that #8 pick is ALWAYS better than #15 or even #20 pick. More chances give you, well more chances to succeed.
But we’ve done that. We have five 1st round picks the next three drafts. Time to start turning them into players.
I agree, we really need to get a top WR or Pitts, so we can evaluate Tua properly, otherwise we’re just spinning our wheels.
You could say, if the comp is great and much better than that proposed garbage, that we could then trade back to around 12
I think it sucks that there is no clear “top” pass rusher / Edge guy in this year’s draft. I will argue that pass rusher is a bigger need for the Dolphins than Receiver is. It would be much simpler if we could just take the best edge guy knowing he won’t be a bust at 6 but all the big boards I see seem to say that Rousseau is the best prospect and I think he has too much bust factor in him as a one year wonder.
I hate the idea of taking the “best” receiver when I don’t think that is our biggest need. I would take Pitts at 6 but think between Atlanta and the Bungles one will take him at 4 or 5. Sewell would be a good consolation prize but do we need another 1st round tackle?
It may be our biggest need, but not our biggest issue.
We’ve got Fuller on a 1 year contract, so can’t really depend on him past this year, so that top receiver will help decide, if Tua is the answer
Blocking overall is also going to be a big part of Tua’s growth. Both he and Fitz struggled when protection broke down and our run game was up and down. If that can be more consistent I think we’ll see a much better offense even with what we have already. But adding some upgrades at the skill positions would really help.
I think Tua struggled, when we had no receivers.
He looked really good, when both Williams and Parker played, so to me it’s the bigger issue.
Tua can get the quick hitting passing game going, if we draft Pitts, Chase or Smith
That’s true too, but our young OL needs to take the next step as well. It’s not easy to get three rookies on the same page all the time. Hopefully their chemistry and play improves this season.
Covid shot tomorrow, i’m skeered!
Getting mine tmrw too. We’re shot in the arm buddies. 🙂
Keep whatever paper you get cause might need to verify down the road. De Santis has sworn to make that difficult.
i agree DeSantis is great, could you imagine living in NY under Cuomo?
Figure I could live just about anywhere under any politics…. and have. Been in places where the Dems didn’t put up candidates for the state legislature and ones where the GOP didn’t. Not all that different.
That was then this is now. This crap the dems are pulling with their far left agenda is a different animal
steve — living in a FL Dem stronghold now…. seems pretty cool to me. My real point was politics don’t have much to do with living your life one place versus another.
Good for both of you. The more people with the vaccine the better
That Herd immunity was no joke…. only the original way to get there was.
And now the original part of the Herd immunity, even though it’s better in many instances doesn’t count
What’s really a joke is that weekend at Biden’s stiff sitting in the oval office
Important for both of you guys when you get the second shot be sure to hydrate both before and after getting the shot
There are some rumors that ATL could look to trade down with a team looking to get into the QB frenzy. That makes #6 even better. That team could be Carolina.
Whatever the folks in Davie have in mind, we want teams jumping up for a QB.
Haven’t they moved to their new digs in Miami Gardens yet? It was supposed to be done by March 2021. ( but you know how contractors are…)
I could be wrong, I often am, but they should be moved into the Miami Gardens offices by now. No more Davie.
Good point…. folks in Miami Gardens.
I think taking Sewell you can’t go wrong, Sewell or Pitts
Interesting thing learned today: Benardrick McKinney can play both inside and outside LB. And we signed Roberts back. Still leaves a need for a LB/edge, but not as pressing of one. Could take care of in the 2nd instead of #18.
Yeah he played all around as most teams do this these days. We consider Baker an ILB but he plays on the edge too, blitzes and drops. We use that “Amoeba” defense with one down lineman or none with 6 or 7 guys roaming around before the snap. McKinney will be a part of that too.
Both McKinney and Baker are good blitzers, putting either on the outside should get the job done, and reduce the need for Parsons.
Add AVG, Biegel and Roberts to the LBS, that are effective blitzers
There are likely LBs Grier and Flores like that are not being talked about. Still think we need a legit edge guy even if he’s a bit green and needs to work on his game. Meaning a guy who has that prototype size 6-3 or 6-4 250-260. Even if he’s a one trick pony early on. That player might be available 2nd or 3rd round.
Brennan Scarlett 6’4″ 260
Who can play OLB in the edge position to stop the run and set the edge on first down, besides McKinney?
Belicheat looks like a D genius, because he always has lots of LBS that play multiple as well, making his job easier.
Flores is no different
Van Ginkel and Biegel. Before his injury, Biegel was progressing on the Edge but lost an entire season because he tore his Achilles in the offseason. We also signed Edge Brennan Scarlett from Houston but he’s more of a rotational depth player. We need to add another one in the draft to up the competition.
In a normal “non-covid” world wouldn’t we have already had some OTA’s and stuff? Don’t some of them usually happen before the draft in March? I wonder if the league is going to have a virtual offseason again. Bruce Arians of the Bucks thinks the Union (which is run by Veterans) is against having off season workouts because it helps the younger, cheaper guys get on more even playing field with the more experienced vets thus making it harder for the younger cheaper guys to replace the older more expensive guys.
(meaning Arians feels the Union is against OTA’s because of selfishness and protection of the vet’s position on the team rather than protection of the players from Covid.)
Wouldn’t be the first time someone used covid to benefit themselves
They start mid April
McKinney may be our Hightower
Yes!
We need a Chandler Jones! AVG?
Jaelan Phillips?
BBMike ruined this on up above. 😉
So what did you get?
6
Not sure what that means. Was asking Mike E what type of shot he got this morning.
Was an off the wall answer to an off the wall question
Explains why didn’t get what you meant. Cool enough and sorry for putting out to Mike E what was pretty sure he would get, but obviously caused confusion.
Van Ginkel is progressing nicely.
He is too weak at setting the edge but good pass rusher though
Biegel 6’3 246, a little small, but he could work in with Scarlett
I think he improved quite a bit since his rookie season. He was noticeably bigger and stronger last year. But he’s still a OLB not a DE so he’s not going to be able to take on tackles and pulling guards on a regular basis in the run game. That’s why I said earlier we need a bigger Edge guy added to the mix.
The Edge class this year has no elite, but there are a lot of them. Need to land one of the better ones.
“Edge rusher” is a concept, not a position. It refers to pass rushers who attack the quarterback from one end of the offensive line or the other. … Loosely, in a 4–3 (which means, 4 linemen and 3 linebackers), the edge rushers are the defensive ends.
We run mostly 3 downlineman, so this definition really doesn’t apply.
Players considered to be edge rushers are usually 4–3 defensive ends or 3–4 outside linebackers. … One reason the word “edge” is used in the term “edge rusher” is that edge often refers to the area outside of offensive tackles, but within a couple of yards of the line of scrimmage.
This one applies as an OLB.
Not sure what you’re talking about Tim
Stanger, why would you ask Mike about what type of shot he got on a football post? You created the confusion. LOL
Was right after he posted, but guess he went away to ice his sore arm. Hear different things about different ones and tmrw am getting Pfizer.
That is not much at all. 3rd, 5th and 6th if you discount for years. No doubt what the Jets take now though.
What sucks is that the Panthers don’t need to trade up for a QB now.
They don’t need but doesn’t mean they won’ t. Darnold got picked out of the bargain bin.
It’s not that though. It will be a 2nd and 4th in 2022, not a 3rd and 5th. That way of looking at it makes no sense to me.
Why did the Pats (and other teams) regularly trade a 2nd for a first the next year? Talking value right now.
Well there you have it. The Jets are drafting a QB. LOL
Steve, I think that’s why we bulked up our DL this offseason with Butler and Jenkins. To help our LBs close on plays.
Even though we don’t really play a “standard” 3-4 or 4-3 system, we are building more like a 3-4 base.
That makes sense, but do you still want a DE Edge?
https://nypost.com/2021/04/05/jets-trading-sam-darnold-to-panthers/
Is Darnold a step up from Bridgewater? I don’t think so. I think Carolina still going QB
But not necessarily in a trade up. Might be waiting for one of the top 5 QBs to drop to them and develop.
At #8? I doubt it. They’re obviously not that high on Bridgewater.
Darnold’s rookie contract runs out in another season. Are they really going to invest big money in him. In Bridgewater you have a steady but not spectacular QB. I think in either scenario the Panthers need to draft a QB
Stanger, how does a 2nd and a 4th become a 3rd and 5th the following year? The only way is to assume the 2022 draft will be shit. What if it’s one of the deepest drafts in history?
Stanger is correct a 2nd and a 4th in 2022 is equivalent to a 3rd and 5th this year
I don’t buy into that at all because it makes no sense. Nobody has been able to explain this reasoning and we’ve been discussing it for years. Why is next year less valuable?
Stanger, I don’t remember the Pats regularly trading a 2nd for a 1st the next season. But I do remember Jimmy Johnson traded a 1st the following year to Carolina for a 2nd in the current draft to select Patrick Surtain but that’s because he had a 1st round grade on Surtain and he really liked the player. So was our 1st really a 2nd for Carolina? How does that make any sense?
It doesn’t. Talking present trade value when folks are making the deals. A 3rd in 2021 is worth more than a 3rd in 2022 and so on. To take it way out there…. what value would you put on a 3rd round pick in 2028? I’m not making this stuff up.
But yeah if folks though this year’s draft a shit show and the next the best in NFL history they would adjust the values.
Stanger is right, that ain’t shit to give up, like 3rd rd pick 75
What round will the Jets be using that 2nd and 4th in next year? There are only 64 picks in the 1st two rounds. How does that equate to 75?
I posted last week how the teams consider future round picks, it was something I hadn’t seen before.
A 2022 2nd is equivalent to pick 18 in round 3 2021, so 180pts.
2022 4th is equivalent to pick 18 in round 5 2021, so 25pts.
2021 6th 12 pts, totaling 217 pts or equivalent to pick 75 this year, which is worth 215pts
So why do teams keep making trades like this? It still makes no sense to me. Just because it’s a year down the road? The pick is still what it is and nobody knows what the next draft class is yet – better or worse. Maybe if the Panthers go to the Super Bowl it’s more of a 3rd or 5th because it’s at the end of the round and in the 4th comp picks come into play, but that also means they had a great season.
It’s just a gadget to used for fair trades, the more motivated one team is the more they can expect to give up, and when a drafting QB is the result expect more
Lots of coaches on the hot seat Tim willing to mortgage the team’s future to keep their job or make that run for the ring. Not all of them but enough to make the standard trade evaluations what they are. Familiar with the Tunsil trade. 🙂
The Jets moved up three spots to No. 3, while sending the No. 6 overall pick, two second-round choices this year (Nos. 37 and 49) and their second-rounder in 2019 to the Colts.
Darnold should now be considered a huge mistake, costing them the #6 pick plus 2 2nds. The next year 2nd is a wash with what they got back from the Panthers
He’s a huge mistake now even if he makes the HOF.
so much for trade back ideas with Carolina. The only other team that could possibly move up is Denver (I doubt we’d deal with NE if they inquired, but who knows).
Looking like we are locked in at #6
I don’t think we’re moving out of #6. That was a value board trade. We know we like 6 prospects.
And it wasn’t QB or we wouldn’t have traded out of #3.
Ken, just heard them say on NFLN that Carolina may move Bridgewater now. So maybe they do draft a QB at some point but you don’t trade three picks for a player you’re not high on. I doubt Carolina drafts a QB at #8. In fact I think they might trade down for more picks.
I could see them trading down, but they really gave up very little to take a look at Darnold.
I like SC, so I hated to see him go to the jets, with that said, it’s still hard to root for him with the green slime stained on him, even though I would like to see the Panthers stick it to them
Expect the Panthers to give Darnold the 5th year option and take a two year look at him. He’ll only be 24 in June. Darnold has talent but the Jets did a pretty bad job building around him.
This would be a monkey wrench of sorts. The Jaguars take Zach Wilson and Trevor Lawrence is there for the Jets. I’ve heard a lot of draft pundits say they like Wilson over Lawrence. But we know QBs are going top 3. Unless SF is blowing smoke up our asses and take a tackle and roll with Jimmy G.
steveccnv says:
April 5, 2021 at 5:14 pm
It’s just a gadget to used for fair trades, the more motivated one team is the more they can expect to give up, and when a drafting QB is the result expect more
But the Jets didn’t give up anything to draft a QB. They’re still at #2 and acquired more picks by trading Darnold. They’ve hit the reset button and are following what we’ve done the last two years. They’ve got a boatload of picks the next two years.
Gee Adam Gase, wherever you go as HC, after 3 years you force franchises to make trades for draft picks and hit the reset button. That’s quite the legacy. LOL
I know everyone is saying Lawrence #1 to Jags. Now a little rumble of Wilson to Jags. I know many on here say Fields sucks and is just another OSU system QB. I actually think Fields is a special talent.
Who is the new coach of the Jags? I think any of the top 3, Lawrence, Wilson or Fields could go to #1 overall.
I just said that brosef. LOL
Oh, lol
I still would not be totally shocked about Fields, TBH.
Did Charley Casserly just say Carolina tried to trade for Tua saying his last name wrong? LOL
Any pundits talking about Wilson over Lawrence to Jags are pundits looking to get their names to go viral. Lawrence has been a man among boys in high school and college. QB’d a national championship team as a freshmen… he is currently only 21 yrs old!! One Pro Day where everything is orchestrated isn’t enough to move him ahead of Lawrence’s game tape. For that matter, I thing Fields is a better QB as well… he’s just getting dinged because Haskins farted and left the room, and people think it might have been Fields.
LMAO
DL, Edge and LB is not an elite class this year. I would not be surprised if we take Micah Parsons who I think is the best defensive player in this draft at #6. Everyone will say the Dolphins didn’t give Tua that spectacular weapon on offense like no good offensive players are left.
I think Parsons takes our defense to another level. Pitts and Chase are the guys on offense. There are plenty of other good offensive players. I think offense is deeper than defense this year. Take the best defensive player before it thins out. We have plenty of top picks.
amen!
Agreed about someone Parsons anx our need/hole….lol.
You like a nice hole don’t you? LOL
Well, yeah. Don’t you?
LOL
i think the first 4 picks will be QBs, i heard ATL came out and said they will be taking a QB, tat leaves us with the 2nd overall non qb pick.
Oh god intelligible.
Agreed with TK about Parsons. I think he could take our defense to the next level better than any other draft option at D.
It’s a need!
Yes Krishna, we created a “hole” with releasing Van Noy and trading Lawson. LOL
But maybe that’s part of the plan. To add faster to the position. We’ve got the draft capital to do that.
And that’s why our team is incomplete. Upgrading depth is not filling holes. Subtraction by addition (someone said) is a way to fill holes. If it takes two to get you what’s “best” is it really when you only need one. That’s a fucking hole in my book…lol. Sorry.
WR is a hole, RB by committee is a hole, OL could be filled with better and cheaper talent.
Another stout DL/edge/whatever is needed.
Wilson is better than Lawrence, the Jags suck at picking QBs almost as bad as we do.
Urban Meyer is the new coach of the Jags. I’m sure he will pick the QB.
can Robert Hunt hold down RT, how about Jackson at LT?
Sewell is a stud and will fit very nicely on that OL.
Sewell is an option too. But Jackson, Hunt and Kindley have to get better. They were all major draft investments last year – 1st, 2nd and 4th respectively.
We’re such a young team, not sure we fans know what to think. But 5-11 to 10-6 was a nice jump under the new two year regime.
I just saw that Paye killed his pro day and dropped down to 260. I’m afraid he’ll get overdrafted, but I’m starting to really like this kid.
I’m not sure I understand why he’s so unpopular here
I wouldn’t be surprised if we drafted him. Not sure when, not at #6, but arm chair GMs say not a good pick. Flores likes his team to be versatile and I think we miss that point as fans.
The bottom line is he wants us to play better on offense, defense and STs. Duh! But he has his vision and we have ours. LOL
Piggy,
For me, he looked kinda slow and stiff playing. The more I watch him; the more I wonder if it’s more about him being more of a technician. I actually like the way he plays. He’s a powerful kid who plays hard, and he plays smart. He has a lot to like, but I just don’t think he’s a top #18 guy. That’s just me.
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He’s also kind of a tweener who is probably viewed as a 4-3 DE. I don’t know if that really means anything in our defense, but ya never know. He played at around 270-75. He was 260 at his pro day, and I believe he said he did it on purpose.
Finally, someone gets it. Forget about Paye(s) of schit, he doesn’t fit, we don’t need a 4-3 DE, that’s why Lawson and KVN are gone, tweeners in our D.
I bet we take Owen, maybe even after a trade to the 20s
I agree with Rhino on Lawrence.
Chris Simms is so stupid, that he doesn’t even know what he said, but revealed his motivation behind why he says Wilson is the better QB.
He said he wants to be a GM, then he says, why Wilson is better.
He’s the first guy that said Wilson should go #1.
If Wilson ends up being better, which will never happen, then he believes he’ll get GM calls
Tim,
Talking defense: Ive been having a hard time figuring out what I think they’ll do in the draft because I’m still not really sure what they value or emphasize quite yet. I really feel their FA moves thus far have been about shoring up the run defense. But, they continue to sign guys who offer flexibility. Mckinney and Butler both have versatility. I don’t think either of them are gonna be real impactful in the passing game, but they give you some options. Jenkins is what he is…a run stuffer. Does that mean we see them continue that trend or do those signings free them up to go a different direction?
I think Parsons adds a player that is hard to block. I’ve said he’s a Lawrence Taylor type of prospect coming out of college but that’s also blasphemy. I’ve been saying this for months and if he ends up on another team I feel the same way. I think he’s going to be one of those perennial pro bowl/all pro type LBs.
The problem with Parsons is he takes himself out of plays the way Kiko did, but on the outside I see that as less of a problem.
He’s also a tweener to us in that he’ll likely go between our picks, but if he’s there at 18 all in
He’s young steveccnv. Don’t you think he can improve or do expect perfection out of the gate. Just a question.
Of course he can improve
Just pointing out a negative, they all have something.
I think he’s out of position playing inside.
I did say I’m all in at 18
Fair enough. They all have warts.
Trevor Lawrence is the best QB in this draft. The question is who will end up being the best in the pros? Nobody knows that. Lawrence looks like he could be an all pro sort of player. People are getting far too excited about Wilson’s pro day. Happens all the time with the combine too. The media loves when they can hype QBs. It gets fans interested more than anything else.
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I could care less….or couldn’t care less because neither are coming to our team….so screw ‘em. Lol