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Week 3
HOWIE’S LIST
Rhino 26 – 24 🐬
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🐠 35-7 🐬
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Week 3
HOWIE’S LIST
Rhino 26 – 24 🐬
Herd 23-20 🐬
Kong 27-24 🐬
🐠 35-7 🐬
New Age 27-26 🐬
Rock 36-20 LVR 😦
stanger 17-14 phins
Sounds like a lot of people on Twitter are advocating moving around the OL
Moving Jackson to guard
Moving Hunt to tackle
Etc
I don’t really get it
Piggy, It is probably just desperation on their part. IMO the issue with the line is more than just lack of talent, though Jackson has looked BAD since a rookie. I think they need time together to gel. So of course the solution is to keep on shuffling them! Makes perfect sense!
From the article on the previous page:
“▪ You’re the fourth offensive line coach here in 26 months. General manager Chris Grier has given you high draft picks. Do you feel a burden to develop these players?
He said that poor performance on Sunday “is not on them alone. I take a lot of that burden on myself to do whatever I need to do to get it right.”
Jeanpierre confirmed that center Deiter has a role in blitz pickup, but didn’t solely blame him for two early sacks. He said communication in days leading up to the game must improve.”
Those two early blitzes were DB blitzes as I recall
The play of Jackson and Davis was bad as n the outside
But the two dB blitzes no one saw coming – that was something else than just a bad individual performance
And IMO those Effective DB blitzes were the low point in the game
Something really went wrong pre-snap on those plays
For you other baseball guys on the board, what is your opinion?
If Guerrero gets the triple crown, do you give him the MVP or has Ohtani’s season been special enough to give it to him no matter what else happens? Does it matter that Toronto is in the playoff hunt and LA isn’t?
If I had a vote, I think I’m giving it to Guerrero if he wins the triple crown.
Organization should win it
Wow, how about you leave my Ohtani
Lol
Hunt graded out well last year at RT, move him back there, put Eichenberg at LT, Jackson LG, Davis at RG, and leave it that way the rest of the year.
Why else did they draft all these tackles
I saw a lot of bone head moves by the line these past two weeks. Guards pulling in different directions and running into them, Tackles doubling the DT with the guard and letting a free running DE / OLB run free past them. Keystone cops kind of shit. That is being unprepared IMO. These guys need to start working together and keep working together and they need to get on the same page. if that means Dieter is not calling out the correct assignments then he needs to sit IMO.
Yeah – they do just look like ugly mistakes
Clean it up
The QB & the center need to recognize formations and call out blocking assignments, we need a leader to point out where the imbalance is, that’s not happening, Tua’s sacks were his own fault, he’s not aware of what he’s up against. he’s just proceeding with the play and these OL don’t know where the trouble is coming from, they are down in their stance and don’t have the picture Tua does.
at one point i had seen 4 defenders rushing against 2 OL, they just proceeded with the play and got hammered. it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that, in fact it’s pretty basic.
watch Brady how prior to the snap he’s jumping around pointing fingers.
he’s calling out and shifting his protection, he does this presnap to get the picture of where they’re lining up. I don’t see Tua doing that.
the way Tua drags the play out presnap, the DL is getting a jump, you have to be unpredictable to stop that, you can’t repeat the same cadence everytime. you can’t make that a routine.
I had seen where Davis was beat bad with pure speed around the edge, it wasn’t his fault though.
if you look down the line the whole buffalo DL was moving before our OL was. it was like they knew the snap count.
The OL needs help from the QB
I didn’t see a a lot of Tua on Sunday. Thought he was only in for like 6 plays. And he got bashed while in, but seemed like scheming problems to me. So many uncovered rushers..
i watched the video concerning tua and that’s what i took away from it, once we were down 14, kinda forced our hand to play aggressive, at that point we went to the pass and the bills knew we were passing. i thought brissett did good considering the situation.
Was doubting you at all. Just thought Tua played for only a short amount of time and Brissett most of it. But could be wrong.
I think what you mean to say is Tua and Brissett since they were both having the same problems. When both QBs and the oline are failing to set the protections right, which even a blind monkey can see the problem wasn’t just one area or one person, you have to start wondering if the problem is in practice, and if it’s not getting done in practice, the coaches are the issue.
As much as you want to make this about Tua, and I agree the whopping 4 pass plays he was in, there were some issues that were likely at least partially his fault, but it’s clearly bigger than just him.
Cav, it’s Guerrero for me. I remember way back when I played fantasy baseball. I would always try to get Guerrero, Sr.
I keep waffling, lol
watch the first play, you can see Tua moving his foot to get the TE in motion coming back his way, Tua has to recognize that the LBer covering him is not following him, he needs to account for that guy, sure enough the LBer has nothing else to do but rush the passer and he gets the sack, Tua has to recognize that!
watch the second play, there are 4 down lineman to the left of tuas center position with only 2 blockers! one drops back but that still leaves 2 on 3
watch the 1:27 mark, it would appear the DL knew the snap count, Davis was beaten badly. look at the NT, he was moving before anyone, i blame this on Tua being too routine.
We played a bad game. Like Belichick always says after a loss; didn’t play well enough, didn’t coach well enough and now we have to get ready for Vegas.
the ol looked much better once brissett came in the game
What fucking game did you watch? OL looked like shit with both QB. Brisket was running for his life every play.
Yeah but looked better. LOL
watch the video
MF posted it was the worst graded oline performance since pff has started grading. Most of that happened with brissett under center. I agree that it wasn’t just the oline, but tua was only in for 4 pass plays
Correction 6 pass plays
point being you just can’t lay all the blame on the OL and start replacing guys when a lot of the blame lies elsewhere
Tua played 9 snaps. The score was 7-0 when he left the game injured.
do you always distort things to support your agenda? Tua left the game and the Bills drove down and scored, 14-0 when Brissett entered the game
You’re the one with an agenda. Tua has nothing to do with what the defense allows. I suppose the 47 yard TD run by Singletary was on him too. Nothing you’re saying today makes any sense. Not one person agrees with you.
He’s just trolling.
You don’t know what a troll is, maybe you should look in the mirror to get an idea
ORob, just curious if you looked at Brissetts plays as well or just Tuas?
yes watch the video above, Brissett was at a disadvantage due to being down 14pts, he had way too many pass attempts, taking that into consideration, watch the video, he sometimes waited a long time to get the pass off. it just looked better with him vs Tua
Tua had guys coming at him unblocked due to over loading and lack of recognition.
It did you break down every play and recognition at the line, like you did with Tua? Saying it just “looked” better with Brissett comes across slanted when breakdown is presented for Tua, but not Brissett.
“But did you”…..
no i didn’t breakdown any of brissetts plays i just watched how he manuevered in the pocket, being slow he was still able to use that as an advantage.
the reason i didn’t break down brissett was because the game was over when he entered having already seen the game.
kinda hard to evaluate clean up duty
he was at a huge disadvantage coming into the game down 14-0 not to mention the blown plays by the recs when we were in Buffalo territory
Ok, I don’t understand that logic at all, how is being down 14-0 early clean up duty. You don’t see how you come across as just having an agenda against Tua when you give answers like that? Trying to be fair here to you, but you seem to just be focused on only what is wrong with Tua, and ignore the rest of the game. Good luck.
Let’s go Pirates!
Boo
You guys spotted them 5 runs yesterday and still clobbered them, lol.
Ok, was going to wait until next month, but dammit man we need to (STILL) improve the OL and pass rush:
29. Tyler Linderbaum OC, Iowa – Will be best center in the draft
48. Thayer Munford OT(LT), Ohio State – 46 games at LT for Ohio State
99. Isaiah Thomas EDGE, Oklahoma
118. Calvin Austin III WR, Memphis – SPEED
123. Isaiah Foksey EDGE, Notre Dame
158. Kenneth Walker III RB, Michigan State – Current NCAA rushing leader
179. Romeo Doubs WR, Nevada
196. Tanner Mordecai QB, SMU – Need one to develop when Brissett is gone
232. Steven Gilmore CB, Marshall – Stephon’s brother, smallish size though
249. Zacch Pickens IDL, South Carolina
It’s tough to have a decent debate around here without some ass-hat chiming in with stupidity
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D says:
September 21, 2021 at 6:23 pm
He’s just trolling.
here’s another condescending idiot, Tim you should stick to the subject matter and form an opinion of why you think i’m wrong instead of the condescending bull shit that swirls around in your brain, i get it you don’t have a clue so you try to cloud the issue with your nonsense.
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Tim Knight says:
September 21, 2021 at 5:59 pm
Yeah but looked better. LOL
Well being that you threw out the first insult, your knowledge of football is akin to a retarded goat shitting out a dead rat.
i didn’t throw out any insults, you’re immature dude.
“condescending idiot” isn’t an insult? But I know this is where you wanted this to go. You get off on it.
that was said after your mocking statement, this kinda crap is all i get from you
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Tim Knight says:
September 21, 2021 at 5:59 pm
Yeah but looked better. LOL
I don’t really care, if that kinda shit floats your boat, have at it
Speaking of retard goats, did any of you read about the dead grisly they found in Canada that had been killed by a mountain goat? I guess that happens once in awhile, which is pretty cool.
Lol autocorrect. ‘Grizzly’
LOL @ Speaking of retard goats
🤣
Grizzlys who stare at goats
Tua missed the tackle on the TD and he should have had better coverage on Diggs
Watch the video!
Tim Knight says:
September 21, 2021 at 6:29 pm
You’re the one with an agenda. Tua has nothing to do with what the defense allows. I suppose the 47 yard TD run by Singletary was on him too. Nothing you’re saying today makes any sense. Not one person agrees with you.
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you first have to understand the subject matter to understand why i say what i do, you should try to read the whole story, not just start with my posts,
If you can read above the problem being stated is that all the blame should go on the OL, that we should sit a couple of guys and move others in.
that’s just not true and i tried to point that out with the video and some of Tua’s failures that contributed to the OL looking bad, that allowed Buffalos offense on the field to get that huge run.
I never said we should sit anyone nor did I say it was all on the OL. Even though they sucked all day. I blamed the blocking schemes as a whole which involves everyone on the field. The coaches also did a bad job.
But blaming a QB for a 20 yard punt return and a 46 yard TD run, and the coaches going for it on 4th and 2 which lead to a 52 yard TD drive to make it 14-0 is just dumb. It was 14-0 the entire 2nd quarter and what did we do?
and i wasn’t commenting to you with my initial posts, you commented to my post, i was responding to the others above, so why does the fact that you never said anything about the OL matter?
you’re forming your own context about my posts (another tua bashing) without considering what’s above my post.
you’re lost in translation
Does anyone really think that all the blame lies on the OL when we went down 14-0 with Tua in the game,
was Tua not to blame for getting hammered by unblocked LBers?
it’s on the video, it’s pointed out, should be clear as day.
it’s not all on the OL, it’s more on Tua and his inexperience.
he has to do a better job recognizing and calling out protection.
It wasn’t 14-0 with Tua in the game, it was 7-0. They made it 14-0 when he was out of the game. What part of that do you not understand? He’s not responsible for the defense.
third down tua gets pancaked! we punt, they score, 14-0 when Brisett takes his first snap, just to be clear.
Nope! We went for it on 4th and 2 and gave them the ball on their 48. They drove 52 to make it 14-0. Maybe you didn’t watch the game.
semantics, it was 14-zip when Brissett entered the game. do you at least agree with that?
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On 3rd-and-15, a screen pass to Jaylen Waddle picked up 13 yards, moving the ball to the Buffalo 48-yard line. Electing to go for it on fourth down, Tagovailoa threw toward Albert Wilson, but was hit as he let go of the ball and it fell short. Tagovailoa grabbed his ribs as he laid on the turf and was clearly in pain.
What about the rest of the game, who is to blame for that? It was 35-0. I blame the OL, coaches, the early defense, both QBs, the receivers, and myself for wasting 3 hours watching it.
LOL
garbage time, we had no gameplan, pass every down, no element of surprise, their D just plays pass, kinda hard to come back from that with a back up QB who has seen no action. couple that with the turnovers and drops.
the game was lost at the half
Garbage time is early 2nd quarter down 14? That is where you lose me, sorry
I was lost a while ago. Agendas are hard to follow sometimes.
LOL @ Bookman
Tua did not rush the passer good enough
Tua was calling out protections from the training room.
Tua needs more fiber in his diet
Tua needs Tim’s suit of armor
LOL
O rob
I get where you’re trying to go and Tua should of shifted protection. However, if I’m the LT and I clearly see an extra guy on my side. I’m saying hey LG I got to go after this guy or he will come in free. I believe communication as whole was shit .
if you watch the video the LT is down in a 3 point stance, he’s focused on who’s in front of him, Tua triggers the T.E. in motion with his foot away from the lber freeing him up to rush Tua, no way the LT could account for that, the ball was snapped quickly. Tua should have either made sure the RB was aware and had him on that side to pick up the lber or roll away from the lber.
He can counter that, shift the line blocking then tua needs to understand that he has to step up and get it out quick. 3 point stance or not
all i’m saying is the fault does not solely lie on the OL, Tua was just if not more at fault for the breakdown judging from the video above.
So garbage time starts late in the 1st quarter down 14-0 now. LOL
Unfortunately with that game, garbage time started at kick off! Time to move on….. short term memory!! Raiders next
Actually we stopped the bleeding with the defense stepping up after the 1st quarter. The offense continued to do nothing for the rest of the game. You can’t beat a good team doing that. But yes, Raiders next.
I agree with that. Brissett was still running for his life most of the game. So offense really had no chance to sustain the whole game. I think you mentioned earlier that the whole blocking scheme they implemented sucked. Back to the drawing board
and the reason brissett was running for his life was because the game plan was abandoned
Tua is mean to small animals
The reality of the game log is now semantics. LMAO!!!
you see how your brain works, condescending bs,
i guess it work’s better for you to cloud the issues.
stupidity on a web site
not intelligent.
It’s not any of that. That’s how we played the game. Flores went for it and gave them half a field. If we had punted even in the endzone from their 48, they get it at the 20. Now they have to go 80 instead of 52. Understand?
yeah i understand do you? the moral of the story is brissett entered the game down 14-0.
lost in translation
ORob, not sure how anyone would consider early 2nd quarter down 14, garbage time.
it turned into that when we lost the ball deep in bills territory and going for it on 4th down instead of kicking the fg, you come away with no points for the half and they come out and put 7 more on you, then your game plan is abandoned.
we could have easily had the lead going into half without the mistakes, the parker drop!
that would make it a whole different 2nd half
Like I mentioned earlier, not only QB, but coaching, receivers and early defense. OL as well, cause Brissett was hurried also.
No team abandons a game plan late 1st quarter down by two TDs. It might get tweaked, but not abandoned.
you’re 5 steps behind, try reading all the posts.
see 7:42 post
Which ones, your posts that make no sense or the ones that make no sense?
All my posts make sense to me although mine may come off as mandarin Chinese to others
Seems to me that there is a LOT of blame to go around regarding our Offensive woes… it begins with drafting, goes to coaching, and ends with execution.
My attention is now focused on Lemuel Jeanpierre and our “co-OCs” to fix the communication problems on the O-Line. Could be as simple as too many chiefs and not enough Indians, coupled with next to no gel-time for our O-Line.
I read that they are moving guys around for the raiders game on the OL
I think Rock hit it on the head in an earlier post – a lot of keystone cops stuff
I feel like we should be watching out OL to the theme of a Benny Hill
I’d read the same thing earlier, Pig. I agree with ya.
Like I said last night, we’re a very young team overall including coaches and maybe our 10-6 last year put us all on the fast track and we’re not there yet. That said it was one bad game. If we see more of this then we have a problem.
I think we have a problem, man! LOL
coming off that bad loss, Raiders are floating on cloud 9 with 2 wins against tough opponents, I think that works in Miami’s favor.
you can bet these guys are on notice after the Bills performance, They’re playing for their jobs!
SIMPLE FIX, just give Tua and the entire OL a blood transfusion from MATT ROTH!!!!!
Hell, the entire team for that matter!
Talking punter here, to mix things up.didn’t we hear during training camp that are punter could kick perfect spirals and place them perfectly. Not that this has anything to do with the game. Just wanting to see it
Lmao….I’ve never judged the results of game with 3 and half quarters left as having to change game plans and become frantic even after losing their starting QB.
Kinda silly, especially focusing on the first two series of the game…..hmmmm.
Also, never heard of tying QB results to play after they go out. New rules? Lmao!
Except maybe when one needs to support their agenda? Maybe?
Tua was on the grassy knoll
Lol, nothing good ever happens on the grassy knoll
Depends on the grass?
You had me at grass. Time to check the flammable combustion on my grass
bailbondmike says:
September 21, 2021 at 8:12 pm
SIMPLE FIX, just give Tua and the entire OL a blood transfusion from MATT ROTH!!!!!
Hell, the entire team for that matter!
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POST OF THE DAY!!!
We’re going to find out what kind of mettle this team has this Sunday. Not one area or another, all of them. Players and coaches alike.
The entire team was accountable for that shitshow and I will call anyone out who thinks it was lost in our 2nd offensive series. That’s just stupid shit and agenda driven. And, speaks to a very low football IQ. Talk about U75, more like U45. Lmao!
You mean UB40 lol
Lol…ok
Just don’t insult anyone, that’s immature. LOL
Is it insulting if you tell someone they’re saying stupid shit when they’re saying stupid shit? Lmao.
Now, i get twice the the….lol.
I don’t know that moving guys around on the OL is great way to solve problems that are mistakes
Doesn’t experience fix that
They keep playing this way. They need to be “moved ” off the team. Tome for accountability
Time
Exactly. I mean, if it’s REALLY bad, I’m all for it. But we’re only going to take that much longer to develop cohesion (gel-time) on the O-Line as a result.
Random thought: is it possible that a 3-game preseason rushed the process for a great many teams, such as ours?
Hopefully they play better, because last year we had 0 preseason and I feel we were better than I expected
Stellar point, Capt… I hadn’t thought about that fact.
Last year was just too weird, and I hope we never experience anything like that again.
I totally agree
Cesar’s last words: Et Tu Tua?
LOL If this was Cesar’s team…. heads would literally be rolling
LOL
LOL
It’s funny, because as a Tua supporter, I’m quick to point out that he had no offseason, preseason, etc. But then I talk about our O-Line and don’t apply the same, and Captain Stubbs reminds me that they, too, had no preseason either. SOLID point by the Capt!
So why have we regressed so much this year from last? See my 7:59 PM post above… I think I pegged it rather well… even when not considering our O-Line had zero preseason last year.
What happened? Coaching changes.
We have had a lot of coaching changes. I’m leaning that way
Yessir. And one has to figure that with co-OCs (unless it’s in title only), the communication HAS to be slowed to at least a tangible degree. Communication needs to flow ASAP, and we’re clearly not there.
Perhaps I’m wrong on our talent, but I see a very, very promising young O-Line. We should be much better this year than last, but we’ve gotten worse.
Coaching changes and lack of gel-time with 5 on the O-Line.
I will give you this, sometimes there are too “many cooks in the kitchen” and not enough sous chefs.
Cross training is also important, but i want my best to be able to excel at what they do best before I ask them to cover/learn other roles. You need primary talent, then support. Not, support everywhere, but no experts.
We are so young….growing pains?
We’ll see what changes are made this coming Sunday, but I don’t think it bodes well… JMO. I must roll with Tim to see if we can get this fixed early in the season.
If we lose to the Raiders on the road something like 24-17, I can handle that as a fan. If we lose 31-3 it’s not looking good.
100% agreed.
Tua faked the moon landings
No, he did not!!!!
Another example of dumb mistakes are the ineligible downfield receiver penalties
I’m pretty sure that’s product of not pacing themselves right on RPO plays – like they expect the ball to come out faster
So stuff like that
And picking up the blitzes – especially the DB blitzes
That’s fixable
Really with our team speed at receiver we should be killing teams that are sending DBs at our QB
So we’re traveling to the new Las Vegas Raiders’ stadium to play on Sunday… some have called it the “Death Star”, seriously. We’ll need to get with the PhinsTroopers to plan an advanced strike.
Pigs, Hulkster, and Mike E: come with me on Slave-1, and we’ll rendevous with Steve on the outskirts of the Las Vegas system. D, we’ll need some of your advanced experience, you having been on a Death Star before where you lost many.
Captain Stubbs, we need you to be our compass on the treacherous journey to the Death Star: take the lead, sir.
I KNOW we can count on Phindog, BBM, and Phelon to cover our 6.
Tim, Stanger, Manitoba, Krishna, ORob, Wyoming, Bookman, CavKong, New Age, Rockphin, Herd, and David all need to help form a grand army of the Phin Nation, ready to strike!
May the Force be with us!
GO PHINS!!!
HELL YEAH!!!
Old Dolfan, too!!!
Lol by death star
Bye bye death star
Our top 6 OL we’re rolling with from youngest to oldest are R, 2, 2, 2, 3 and 7. They have a very small body of work playing together and so does Tua and some of the other skill guys. Even the vets haven’t played much with this group. These guys haven’t accomplished anything together as it stands this year.
The defense is ahead. They’re opportunistic but they have some issues with youth and new too.
The STs have been solid for the last few years. I don’t see us losing games much because of them.
After 2 games:
Offense D
Defense C+
Special Teams C+
Coaching C+
These are just my eye ball grades, nothing analytical. It can get better, but it’s still going to be that “OD show me” test.
Looks like Mike E needs you to come on in to look at those eyeballs lol
Are you grading on a curve
That’s a 1-1 record, 2 games not just the last one. I don’t consider C+ top of the class. Throw a D in there and you’re going to community college, maybe. LOL
By the way I said eye ball, not eyeballs, I cover the other one with mindless amazement. LOL
Lmao when you gave the grades I was thinking about the movie dumb and dumber. My reply was going to be ” soooo there’s a chance “
This place needs saged.
I’m thinking flogged
Would you settle for a colonic? LOL
Oh my god….then shit will really get weird!
Capt., this Raiders game is a test for sure. What is this team made of and where they are as a team? We’ve seen it before, start off bad and finish better. We started off 1-3 last year and finished 10-6. We’re not there yet.
I hope to see drastic improvement and the way we played last week. It should be doable.
Agreed!
Gee what great insight on such a bland post!
I love spices man, get that shit all giggity. 🙂
you should work on your material, you keep regurgitating bland shit that adds up to nothing, i mean how do you respond to that, maybe add a little john facenda and some highlight music behind it?
still won’t work!
Just in case anybody thought I was just being Star Wars weird, LOL…
Welcome To The Death Star!
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ocalarob says:
September 21, 2021 at 6:29 pm
It’s tough to have a decent debate around here without some ass-hat chiming in with stupidity
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D says:
September 21, 2021 at 6:23 pm
He’s just trolling.
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So what is it then, seems that if youre blaming the game on a guy who barely was in the game you’re either dumb or trolling. I personally don’t feel you are dumb so it singles it out.
your stupid dude you don’t know what i’m talking about yet you chime in insulting me.
we are past football talk, you’re an internet pussy!
Tim Knight says:
September 21, 2021 at 8:12 pm
Which ones, your posts that make no sense or the ones that make no sense?
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This was the post of the day.
Coming from a moron who wears a kids mask!
lKrishna says:
September 21, 2021 at 10:28 pm
Agreed!
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are you going to the fest?
CAN’T WAIT!
This statement here is pretty sad, i’m giving an opinion on football matters, and in doing so this clown butts in and labels me a “troll” for my football opinion. i wonder who the real troll is?
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D says:
September 21, 2021 at 6:23 pm
He’s just trolling.
you’re such an immature pussy!
LOL
i read a lot that i disagree with as far as football talk, and if i feel it’s worth the conversation i will reply appropriately. if i don’t i simply move on. that depends on the person making the comment though, at this point i have a list that i try to ignore no matter the subject.
I remember when Home was hounding Tim, it drove him crazy. he was mad as hell about it.
yet he does the same thing.
this place is a great place to talk football most of the time, just a few bad apples.
maybe we should all impugn each other over opinions.
see how that works
i know it’s just immaturity, i shouldn’t let it bother me
Have you ever heard of the whispering eye or just dreamed about it? Stop trying to put the banana in the apple, it’s the peach, man!!!! LOL
troll ^^^
The Flying Pig says:
September 21, 2021 at 9:17 pm
Another example of dumb mistakes are the ineligible downfield receiver penalties
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Austin Jackson! he may get the hook this week, move davis to LT and Liam to RT
If Tua can’t go in Vegas he already told the protection to fuck it all up right off the bat. He cares more than you know. LMAO!!!!
TROLL ^^^^^^ ALERT
10 straight for the Cards, and thank you very much Pitt 😉
go reds!
You might as well stick a fork in ’em.
10 games left only 3 back??
5 back in the loss column and the cards have 12 games left. You basically need to win all 10 of your games and have the cards lose half their games or hope the cards lose more than half just so you can drop another game or two.
We’ve won 10 straight including sweeping the mets and Padres, and we’ve won our first two against the brewers. We would have to have a total collapse and we’re playing better than we’ve played all season.
The Flying Pig says:
September 21, 2021 at 9:19 pm
So stuff like that
Really with our team speed at receiver we should be killing teams that are sending DBs at our QB
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Not sure that’s working out, the Bills just picked our QB up and slammed him to the ground, i’m sure they were laughing about it all the way back to Buffalo!
I know what happened. I saw the game
The whole point is that quick hitting passes to speed receivers can counter DB blitzes bc you are leaving LBs out there to stop the big play
The team wasn’t prepared to counter something they are built to withstand
‘The vagina is an elastic, muscular canal with a soft, flexible lining that provides lubrication and sensation. The vagina connects the uterus to the outside world. The vulva and labia form the entrance, and the cervix of the uterus protrudes into the vagina, forming the interior end.’
What I heard that also happens is the lack of it makes people disoriented and searching for organs that don’t exist. That conundrum is still considered… the tale of the Yetti. LOL
*Yawn* *pats little OCRobbie on the head* Goodnight you little rascal.
TROLL ^^^^^^ ALERT
Actually was kinda little bit of trolling ….but I’m staying above the belt with it at least.
I didn’t label you a troll, I said you were trolling. There is a difference. One is a personal attack one is saying you setting him up for an argument about Tua. Sorry if ya didn’t see it that way but I can’t help you understand it. You called me a pussy, a moron, so only one calling people namesis you because you argument are dumb, repetitive and classless.
TROLL ^^^^^^ ALERT
Indeed but since you didn’t disagree with the post I see you’re in agreement with me on the rest.
D, I was not trying to hammer Tua, i was just responding to the post above about the OL solely at fault and went over a video showing the faults of Tua in that regard. i’m not sure why you think i’m a “troll” for that.
i will give you the benefit of doubt,
from an earlier post explaining this that you obviously didn’t read.
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ocalarob says:
September 21, 2021 at 6:52 pm
Tim Knight says:
September 21, 2021 at 6:29 pm
You’re the one with an agenda. Tua has nothing to do with what the defense allows. I suppose the 47 yard TD run by Singletary was on him too. Nothing you’re saying today makes any sense. Not one person agrees with you.
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you first have to understand the subject matter to understand why i say what i do, you should try to read the whole story, not just start with my posts,
If you can read above the problem being stated is that all the blame should go on the OL, that we should sit a couple of guys and move others in.
that’s just not true and i tried to point that out with the video and some of Tua’s failures that contributed to the OL looking bad, that allowed Buffalos offense on the field to get that huge run.
“that’s just not true and i tried to point that out with the video and some of Tua’s failures that contributed to the OL looking bad, that allowed Buffalos offense on the field to get that huge run.”
Now I get it, Tua sucks. Your words, “Tua’s failures……allowd Buffalos offense on the field to get that huge run.”
I thought the Dolphins had their own D, and just fucked up! They keep changing the fucking rules in football!
Looking forward to the Fest, just rented a car (last mode of transportation needed).
I KNOW I will be there! Can’t wait to meet and laugh with everyone. Woo, hoo!
By the way, I love the smell of sage and have been saged many times! I love it!
However, I think I’m immune…..lol!
For such a big dude he has such a small ego
So weird….lol!
Hit the Hornitas tequila last night. Woke up with something pricking my arm. I had 3 cactus needles in my arm. I’m like, WTF! Still trying to figure that one out.
As long as you didn’t wake up in bed with a cactus
I’m so frustrated with everything that happened last week. I feel like all the positives, what little we were able to take from the NE game all disappeared last week. I hate the Tua is injured and now it’s going to be he’s not durable, which certainly is on the table since he hasn’t been. The talk now is going to be either Tua sucks or he can’t stay on the field. Brisset isn’t bad, we can win with him but every facet of our team needs to improve for that happen.
Yep
He has a point. Pound for pound, the Raiders have a smallish DL.
“Miami has a lot of season left and they have a prime opportunity, no matter who the quarterback is in Week 3, to get the offense back on track. How? By running the football.”
Yeah, this is what I said yesterday.
Overall, I like this coaching staff. However, I think a huge fatal flaw this them was going young and staying young so fast. We need those quality veteran leaders in here. I understand salary cap concerns, but there are people here taking up space on the cap that they’ve chosen to keep or go after that are not value added while we’ve let a few quality guys go that we should have kept. I feel like the ratio of quality veterans and young studs is off if we are expecting these guys to consistently win games and improve on the previous year.
The other concern I have is the unnecessary turnover in the offensive coaching staff. I don’t feel like any move we’ve made has taken this team in a direction it needs to go. Our first guy was let go because his O was supposedly too complex, but we really turned it on at the end of the season and started to really look good. We dump him for Gailey, a retired, inconsistent mess only for him to be forced into retirement and then put two inexperienced guys in charge. This isn’t including the inexperienced line coach.
That’s too much lack of experience coaching a group of players who lack experience. We can’t expect to be winning when so many people on one side of the ball don’t have the history. We are in year three and there should have been something established on O that has progressed since year one like what’s been done with the defense. In year three something should be clicking and we look the same as we did at the beginning of last season.
I didn’t want to make the previous post too long, but what we’ve done on offense for this regime is very similar to how we handled Tannehill. Even though they differ in certain areas, I see Tannehill and Tua in the same tier of QB. They aren’t in the elite tier of of the Rodgers, Wilson, Brady, but they are definitely in the above average tier just below it. Tannehill has a better arm and is more athletic, but Tua has better pocket presence and decision making.
That being said, neither of them are going to be the kind of QB who will the team to wins when the supporting cast is lacking. They need complementary pieces more so that the elite QB do, but less than other QBs. Both need a running game, especially since both are really good with those boots, waggles, and playaction. Tua is the kind of QB who needs to get into a rhythm and I don’t think we’ve done enough with him. Let this offense flow through the RBs’ and TEs, while getting those quick hits to the small fast guys early then expand to the other wideouts and Gesicki downfield as the game goes on. Granted, we take advantage of teams’ specific weaknesses and be fluid where games dictate, but this should be our bread and butter IMO. Have an identity and make adjustments from there.
Huge fatal huh?
Your problem is you don’t understand their intentions
We aren’t ready to compete for an SB yet, so do you bring on some more vets as you suggest, which doesn’t fit the overall goal, or wait until we’re ready to compete for an SB?
I spent two very long posts explaining my points in detail and your first action is to accuse me of not understanding something. I feel like it’s raining on my wedding day or I just got a free ride when I’ve already paid. Maybe you’re giving me some good advice that I just didn’t take, but who would have thought? It figures…
Alanis
You want to play the asshole, but when you write garbage you can’t handle it
Your incorrect use of the absolute fatal, is something a typical correction artist likes to do
Why are there so many damned Reds fans in Florida?
Because Floridians don’t like to root for their teams
Because so many Floridians are from someplace else. My dad grew up in Cleveland he said they used to have lots of ads there to move to FL, so they did in ’57
My favorite team is who the cards are playing
Haters gonna hate.
Well with Brissett starting that is not good news
Sigh
There are some people on Twitter who are stating that Tua can’t read a Defense and never called out the blitzing. This was taken from the All-22 tape and posted to show others on Twitter that he DID call out the blitzing.
Just wait ORob will call you condescending
Very nice mf 13. I love that all 22 vid. Was searching for it yesterday
How didn’t initial testing show fractured ribs for Tua? That’s odd.
Sometimes it depends on the quality of the radiographs
My guess is that the doctor ordered a second scan because they symptoms were consistent with a fracture and he didn’t trust the findings in the first set of radiographs
If you’re flores or Grier you cant just bide your time waiting for players to develop. No coach has lasted more than 4 years since Shula retired. Flores is in his 3rd year
What does “This place needs saged” mean?
From context, I’d guess it’s some sort of cleansing or rage reduction process like an incense or meditation, lol, but I’m curious about its actual meaning.
I use sage in most of my cooking!
Maybe she meant I was to sprinkle it on everyone, then shove them in a 225′ Pit???????
That sounds about right lol
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Tua is OUT this week with fractured ribs
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Flores says this is a tough kid who is trying to play but we’re going to protect him from himself and hold him out this week. Says they’ll take it week-to-week.
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He’s in good spirits. He’s doing everything he can to get better, he is getting better. He wants to be out there with his teammates. — Flores on Tua’s mental state dealing with the injury
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Flores says every week you want to get your best five out there and that’s no different this week, with regards to the O-line. He said the message they sent to the team was they have to be better, the whole team, not just the line.
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Coach on if he thinks they have to tweak the offense to fit Jacoby’s skill set — “no.”
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It’s an explosive team, Flores said of the Raiders. Well-coached. Waller, Ruggs, Renfro, Crosby, Ngakoue, they can create big plays. Carr’s done a great job of taking control of that offense.
Sage is often used paranormal circles to cleanse a house of evil spirits
Maybe Sinnett can start
steveccnv says:
September 22, 2021 at 10:51 am
You want to play the asshole, but when you write garbage you can’t handle it
Your incorrect use of the absolute fatal, is something a typical correction artist likes to do
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More irony.
Is this your alter personality sybil? Don’t think I haven’t noticed
CavalierKong says:
September 22, 2021 at 12:08 pm
What does “This place needs saged” mean?
‘The ritual of sage burning has its roots in Native American tradition. Today, people burn sage and other holy herbs to cleanse a space or environment of negative energy, to generate wisdom and clarity, and to promote healing.’
We need that badly
I’m telling you, a certaqin poster here tastes great with some sage on the pit!!!!!!!! 😉
certain
This is the first time I can remember that roasting some one on an open fire, may not have been a reference to me…
LOL @ Pig!
Cheers, Herd 😁
Stanger, if you are out there, I will not be able to attend the Fest, too much going on at home/work.
That’s a crusher. Still time to reconsider though. I'[s just a long weekend.
Ken, regarding sage … yes on the “driving out evil spirits” but not just paranormal circles …
sage was central to many native american ceremonies. First learned about it as a kid in northwest Iowa where we had Sioux reservations close by.
Not aware of the origins of the practice but I have a friend who is into the paranormal and has written several books about the paranormal and he told me about sage not that I believe in that stuff
Purple haze all in my brain
Lately, things just don’t seem the same
Acting funny, but I don’t know why
Excuse me while I kiss the sky…
Sounds strange to say after he was behind center for 80% of a 35-0 beat down, but Brisset looked OK. Hate won’t have Tua, but we could have worse.
Meh didn’t think he showed anything
Him in there doesn’t mean game over at least
I think it does. He played almost 4 quarters and got 0 points. Granted it was a team cluster fuck but he did nothing to make me have any confidence in him. The only hope we have is if Car is out also
So was reading the long interchanges last night about Tua and am like WTF? He attempted 4 (FOUR) passes.
Cheer up!!!!!!!!
I clearly don’t know enough about sage. I just thought it goes well with turkey, gravy, and stuffing.
And evil spirits
Did anyone post this
You owe me a beer
It’s amazing how much bills got I have to sift through to actually hear news – especially on Twitter
Is the receipt for my beer in those bills? 😃
Tua out for what it seems like may be weeks, is basically a worst case scenario come to life
I’m miserable now
Turning off 🏈 for a little while
Wtf
It’s not good
Now I want ribs and brisket.
I feel like this game Sunday is a game we’re primed to get destroyed so we’ll probably win it by 2 TD’s
It’s a crazy league and we have a D that can explode. Don’t even have to go with Any Given Sunday when we are 3.5 dogs. But do wonder if steve will be at the game.
I want to know more about Ken’s paranormal friend. Book titles etc. I need information.
Ive had a few things happen in my life that are hard to explain, so I’m interested in that topic.
Something tells me we’re going to be better on the O-Line going forward, after a thorough trashing last Sunday. Methinks Coach Flores will get to the bottom of it and fix it in order to be at least competition-worthy… even it doesn’t become all-world overnight, much less this year.
I don’t know if it will be enough, now that Tua is going to miss some weeks. Now hear me out…
IF there’s any kind of validity to trading for Deshaun Watson, the time is NOW to do it. If we don’t trade for him in the next 7 days (we’ll give Brissett a very hard look this Sunday), I don’t want to hear any pundit, reporter, talking-head, or otherwise talk about Watson to Miami ever again.
That ship is loading up and about to leave port for good. If it doesn’t happen now (next 7 days), that ship will have sailed.
Let it be known, I’m a supporter of Tua… so please don’t read into this post that I advocate trading for Watson. I’m just saying that it’s now or never.
Any talk of trading for Watson is purely elementary, holmes.
LOL
LOL
Maybe we should contemplate trading for a new GM and/ or scouting department.
I’m only going to bring this up this one time, because I know a lot of people on this board shout down this kind of talk until after the fact and won’t entertain it until it’s undeniable, but I have serious questions about our GM and the decisions being made.
Just as a starting point, our 2020 draft has the potential to be the worst 1st rd in the history of the league.
Yeah — Tua, Jackson and Iggy ain’t looking prime right now.
Have no idea what will happen with the OL, but clearly they are in damage control mode now. Jackson and Kindley….. they were supposed to be strengths.
Maybe Watson, but the Texans seem too set on unrealistic. Don’t think will happen, least till his stuff has an ending and penalties certain.
Totally agreed: I don’t see trading for Watson happening either.