By: Randy Campbell (OLD DOLFAN)

GAME #10: Nov. 19, 1972 – NEW YORK JETS at MIAMI

By late 1972 the Jets-Dolphins rivalry already had become one of the most intense, bitter, outrageous rivalries in the history of professional football.  The players for the two different squads genuinely disliked each other.  The fans of the two teams absolutely despised each other.  A “combat zone mentality” definitely existed in the stadium when these two teams met.  It was NOT an exaggeration to say “the best hits were in the stands!”


Conditions were especially nasty in the historic Orange Bowl.  Large numbers of ex-New Yorkers moved to South Florida during the 1960’s and 1970’s.  Many of these transplanted New Yorkers were hard core Jet fans, or became bandwagon Jet fans when the Jets shocked the world by winning Super Bowl III.  The Dolphins hosted the Jets in week #2 of their inaugural season in 1966.  To nearly everyone’s surprise, Miami nearly upset New York before falling 19-14.  Jets fans, who may have outnumbered Dolphin fans at that game, celebrated their unimpressive win over an expansion team.  There were fights, bottles thrown, and more than a few arrests.  News of the misdeeds spread throughout the region.  “Next time, I’ll be ready for those jerks,” said an acquaintance of mine.  Others made their own plans for “next time.”  Culture clash was a major cause of this mutual dislike by fans of the two teams.  In the 60’s, Dolphin fans were viewed as Southern Baptists, rednecks, ultra-conservative, dentally challenged and heavy drinkers by their Jet adversaries.  Conversely, Some Dolphin fans viewed Jet fans as Jewish, liberal, obnoxious snooty and heavy drinkers.  (Note that fans of BOTH teams said,”the other guys drink too much.”)  Quite often, these characterizations were prejudicial and just plain wrong.  But there’s no doubting the fact that these perceptions fueled an intense dislike among fans of the two teams.  They REALLY hated each other!

New York won the first 8 meetings between the two rivals.  After their initial 19-14 loss, the Dolphins suffered a series of embarrassing defeats to Joe Namath and the Jets: 30-13; 29-7; 33-14; 35-17; and 31-7.  Most Miami fans had headed home by the 4th quarter of these games.  Those who remained were subjected to incredible abuse by New York fans.  Fights were common, especially in the cheap seats in the upper deck.  It was during this time that a major ruckus in the upper deck deteriorated to the point that a large cooler was tossed over the edge and landed a few rows away from me in the lower deck!  I actually considered wearing a helmet to the next Jets-Dolphins game!  Dolphins’ head coach George Wilson never defeated the Jets in his four seasons at the helm.  His successor, Don Shula, promised big changes immediately.  Shula delivered.  His first Dolphin team beat the Jets twice in 1970.  In 1971, each team won at the other’s stadium.  From 1972 through 1977 Shula’s Dolphins took control of the rivalry, winning 11 0f 12 contests against the Jets.  Since then, there have been many ebbs and flows in this series.  But one thing has NEVER changed.  These two franchises still HATE each other!

The November 12, 1972, game between the Jets and the Dolphins was one of the most important games in this series.  Since losing to the Bob Griese led Dolphins in week #4, the Jets had gone 4-1.  A win over the Dolphins would keep New York’s playoff hopes alive.  More importantly, a win would put the Jets in the books as the team that ruined Miami’s dreams of a PERFECT SEASON.  Many observors predicted a Jets victory in this game.  Halfback Emerson Boozer was leading the NFL in touchdowns.  Rookie fullback John Riggins would 46959457_GeorgeBeregi_500-300x180end the season with almost 1,000 yards rushing.  And Joe Namath was leading the NFL in touchdown passes.  Before years’ end, ace wide receiver Don Maynard would surpass Raymond Berry and become pro football’s all-time leading pass receiver.  Eventually, Riggins, Namath and Maynard would all be enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.  A week earlier, the Jets destroyed the Buffalo Bills 40-3.  And most Jet players believed Miami was a weaker team with Earl Morrall at quarterback.  Morrall, for his part, avoided his long simmering feud with Namath.  To Morrall, Namath’s playboy wild sex image contradicted the traditional American standard of settling down, getting married and raising a family.  “Namath’s lifestyle is NOT my lifestyle,” said Morrall a few days before Super Bowl III in 1969.

Sunday, Nov. 9, 1972, the stage was set for history.  Requests for media passes to cover this game were at an all-time high.  Alligator Alley, from Ft. Lauderdale to Naples (about a 120 miles) was packed with Dolfans driving across the state to the west coast to see the game on TV.  Similarly, I-95 north was jammed with fans heading north to Fort Pierce (about 125 miles away from Miami) to avoid the TV blackout.  After the 1972 season  the NFL changed its blackout policy and allowed games to be shown locally if sold out 72 hours  before kick-off.  But, in ’72, ALL games, even those that were sold out, were locally blacked-out, including the Super Bowl.  80,010 people were ready for the biggest game of the year in the historic Orange Bowl.  Most fans already were “well lubricated” by the 1:00 PM kick-off.  A thunderous roar greeted the Dolphins as they ran on to the field from the west end zone.  A sign said “80,000 reasons why the Jets can’t win!”  Indeed, the home field advantage in the Orange Bowl was the greatest in the history of professional football!

The upper deck literally swayed as Miami’s Garo Yepremian approached the football for the kick-off!  It was “Game On!”  About one minute intothe game, Namath threw a pass intended for Don Maynard.  Dick Anderson stepped in front of Maynard and returned the interception all the way to the Jets’ 33 as the home crowd went crazy!  Larry Csonka garnered 14 yards on a run and a pass reception.  Morris carried twice for 10 yards.  Then Morrall found reliable Howard Twilley with a 9-yard touchdown strike and the Dolphins had a quick 7-0 lead.  The Jets responded immediately.  Namath led an up-tempo drive that took New York to Miami’s 1-yard line.  From there, John Riggins roared into the end zone tying the game at 7-7.  After a Mercury Morris fumble, the Jets took over.  Namath tossed a gorgeous 29-yard TD pass to speedy tight end Richard Caster and the Jets had a 14-7 advantage early in the second stanza.  Midway through the period, New York’s Bobby Howfield connected on a 33-yard field goal, extending the Jets’ lead to 17-7.  Thoughts of obnoxious Jet fans celebrating the end of Miami’s perfect season were dancing in my mind.

Earl Morrall would not let this game get out of hand.  Again, he sought out reliable Howard Twilley.  From Miami’s 20, Morrall connected with Twilley for 22 yards and a first down,  The Jets continued to double cover Paul Warfield so Morrall threw again to Twilley, this time for 44 yards!  Mercury Morris’ 1-yard TD plunge brought Miami back to a 17-14 deficit at halftime, to the delight of the Orange Bowl faithful.

Halftime TV commentators noted that the Jets controlled the game for most of the first half.  Namath had found success against the “No imagesCAT1AU3RName Defense.”  Unless Morrall had a really big second half, the Dolphins likely would lose.  Miami took the second half kick-off and moved steadily into New York territory.  Earl Morrall stepped back to pass, but found no one open.  He rolled left, then bolted downfirld near the sidelines.  Mercury Morris said “I was shocked!  I didn’t want anyone messing him up!”  31 yards later, Morrall stood in the Jets end zone having completed THE LONGEST MIAMI RUN FOR A TOUCHDOWN at that point in the season!  It was 21-17, Miami, thanks to Morrall’s 38-year old legs.  The lead was short lived.  Namath brought the Jets back on an 80-yard drive, meeting little resistance from the “No Name Defense.”  His four yard TD pass to reserve player Wayne Stewart put the Jets back on top 24-21 at the end of the 3rd quarter.  Only one quarter separated Miami from their first defeat of the season.  The Jets stuffed Miami’s first drive of the final quarter.  Dick Anderson, pressed into punting when Larry Seiple got hurt, kicked the ball deepinto Jets territory.  A few plays later, “Captain Crunch,” Mike Kolen, caused Jets runner Cliff McClain to fumble.  Dick Anderson recovered the loose ball at New York’s 27!  The “No Names” had come through when imagesCAHKI5YCit mattered the most.  Two Larry Csonka carries produced 9 yards.  Morrall scampered for 4 more yards and a first down at the 14.  Everyone was standing!  From there, Mercury Morris picked his way through the Jets defense, scoring the go-ahead touchdown!  The Orange Bowl erupted with an ear-splitting celebration!  As Yepremian was kicking the extra point, defensive coach Bill Arnsparger was huddled with key members of the “No Name Defense.”  Adjustments were made.  Assignments were altered.  Arnsparger was determined to protect this 28-24 Miami lead.  The new defensive strategies worked.  The “No Names” completely shut down New York’s high octane offense for the last 11 minutes of the game.  Bodies were being dragged-off the field.  Kolen and Buoniconti hit everything that moved! Even a side judge got accidentally clipped by a Dolphin defender.  Namath was running for his life as he tried in vain to rally his team.  “It was a war – – – a war,” said cornerback Steve Tannen of the Jets.  By games’ end, 9 New York Jets had been knocked out of the game!  And the Jets had been knocked out of the playoffs!  Dolphin fans roared as the final seconds ticked off the clock!!  –3 –2 –1 –BOOM!  Firecrackers and foghorns exploded around the biggest game of the year in front of a national TV audience and 80,010 delirious fans!  Horns could be heard blaring outside the stadium.  The celebration had begun!

On the day, Namath passed for 175 yards and two touchdowns.  John Riggins ran for 83 yards and a touchdown.  But it wasn’t enough.  Miami’s ground attack produced 214 yards and three touchdowns.  Morrall hit Howard Twilley with a TD pass.  Dick Anderson not only filled-in as an emergency punter; he also came uo with two crucial takeaways, the final one setting up the winning score.  When it mattered most, the “No Name Defense” stepped-up and preserved this incredibly important win!

The Perfect Season was still alive!  The 1972 Miami Dolphins were now 10-0.

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  1. jetsssuck says:

    rex ryan on charles clay
    “You’ve had a lot of time away, but getting back in the weight room, getting the classroom for the first time,” Ryan added. “There’s many steps that we have to take before we get there. It is, I look out there and I see our weapons that we have offensively, with obviously Percy [Harvin], with LeSean McCoy, with as I call him Cassius [Charles] Clay. That’s who I thought we signed with the money we gave him. I was like, ‘Cassius Clay, right?’ No, Charles Clay, the tight end. . . .

  2. olddolphan says:

    JETS SUCK; Ironically, Charles Clay wore Paul Warfield’s number 42 during his stay here in Miami. Now that Clay has moved on, Dolphin’s ownership should permanently retire the number 42 in a halftime ceremony this upcoming season, Warfield was, and is, a Hall of Famer both on the field and off the field. He is almost universally regarded as the best wide receiver in Dolphins history. His importance to Miami during the PERFECT SEASON cannot be overstated. His legendary crack-back blocks sprang Csonka, Kiick and Morris for huge gains on their way to an all-time record for yards gained on the ground in 1972. And his clutch receptions in both the Browns and the Steelers playoff games brought Miami from behind in the 4th quarters of both games. Unquestionably, there’d be NO PERFECT SEASON without Paul Warfield!! – – Time to retire his number!!
    Hope you all enjoy today’s installment of ABSOLUTE PERFECTION. To me, this was the greatest regular season game of the Perfect Season!! All the pain, all the agony the Jets had put on Dolphin fans during the pre-Shula era was suddenly GONE!! Ah VICTORY, SWEET VICTORY!!

  3. Brian in NY says:

    Maybe it’s hope or optimism, but I get a real positive vibe when I see that picture of Suh walking towards the images of our two Super Bowl trophies. Foreshadowing?

    • olddolphan says:

      I hope so, Brian, I hope so.

      • olddolphan says:

        Off to work. BOTH me and Mrs. OD still suffering from this hideous bug. But I’m gonna try to tough it out today b/c whatever we have is no longer in the contagious stage, according to our doctor.
        Talk to you Dolfans after work.

      • Brian in NY says:

        Ugh. Take it easy today OD, and thanks again for your stellar contributions. Your recollection of these games truly astounds me!

  4. son of a son of a shula says:

    The Dolphins Win!
    The Dolphins Win!

    Take that stej

    Must be Wednesday here at the FU.

  5. son of a son of a shula says:

    Hang tough OD channel your inner Manny Fernandez today you’ll do fine.

  6. son of a son of a shula says:

    How ironic, on the day OD calls for Warfield’s number to be retired is on Mark Clayton’s birthday.
    Happy 54th Mark!

  7. Mike E. says:

    OD – Masterful job. I always enjoy these, but this one was especially enjoyable. These articles need to published, not just on a blog, but in print in a hardbound book. It’s also always better when we beat the Jets!

  8. Mike E. says:


    I would much prefer Jennings. Not sure if Wes has anything left in the tank.

  9. The Flying Pig says:


    The Dolphins win!!!
    The Dolphins win

  10. Tim Knight says:

    OD, really good stuff. I remember you mentioning the Jets being a M*A*S*H unit in the past.

    Whenever I read these articles Dick Anderson is always involved.

  11. The Flying Pig says:

  12. The Flying Pig says:

    Looks like the Steelers selected Bud Dupree

    Time to move onto the next pick!

  13. The Flying Pig says:

    The Lions are on the Clock

  14. The Flying Pig says:

    Just to irk Son, I took the best OL on the baord for the Lions

  15. The Flying Pig says:


    In case you want some guidance on who the experts think teams will pick

    • Tim Knight says:

      They don’t think too highly of Mariota.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I just realized that
        10, 12, 17 & 20

        I hope Mariotta falls to us and the Eagles trade up for him

        But if he fell to any of those spots I think the trade up becomes a real possibility

  16. The Flying Pig says:

    I also just realized that CBS dropped Denzel Perryman down to the 3rd round

    Those bastards!

    would be cool to trade down in the 1st or 2nd and pick up another pick in the top 80 or so

  17. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, I agree that if Mariota gets past the Jets the phones will start ringing with teams trying to trade up. Then again, it wouldn’t be the first time a QB falls. Think about how many team including us screwed up not taking Aaron Rodgers.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Eagles and Browns beat writers have been reporting that the two teams are already talking about a trade involving a swap of first rounds, Maziel and Bradford

      The reasont he Eagles want to do that is to move up closer to a position where moving up again for Mariotta seems more plausible

      I do think the Eagles are desperate to land Mariotta
      but I don’t know how you manage that

      And If I’m the browns I would care for that trade unless they really want to un;aod Manziel for Bradford

      The thing about a trade back for the Browns is that it makes a player like Devnate Parker mor elikely to fall to us at 14
      Maybe even Cooper

      • Tim Knight says:

        I posted about those trade rumors yesterday. I think the Browns have soured on Manziel and would like to move on.

        If the Eagles really want to move up they can by offering next year’s 1st in the deal. I think a lot of teams would make that deal.

  18. Try Pod says:

    Foggy morning in Pensacola Beach- it seems to be rolling in out of the east, which is somewhat strange- but in my best OD voice I’ll say, “but the fog is supposed burn off later and we’ll have a wonderful day of 80° and not a hint of a snowflake anywhere.. I’d rather shovel sand than shovel snow! OD OUT!!!

  19. BoulderPhinfan says:

    I think welker would only be good in the meeting room. Not sure if he can contribute much on the field. One hit and he’s out.

    • Tim Knight says:

      He’d likely only be a 4th receiver in 4 WR sets on 3rd down.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I pretty much think Welker is spent too

      I thinkt he team is just looking at low cost vets to fill out the dpeth chart in case a young guy isn;t ready
      It looks like they want to draft a WR

    • stangerx says:

      Sure he’s getting older, but we could do a lot worse for a 3rd/4th guy. My main drawback on him is he is pure slot.

  20. The Flying Pig says:

    Got to get some work done today
    Catch up later
    I will switch up the poll around lunch time

  21. stangerx says:

    ” Alligator Alley, from Ft. Lauderdale to Naples (about a 120 miles) was packed with Dolfans driving across the state to the west coast to see the game on TV. Similarly, I-95 north was jammed with fans heading north to Fort Pierce (about 125 miles away from Miami) to avoid the TV blackout. ”

    OD — those are the fascinating tidbits I love in your stuff. Wonder how many accidents the blackout rule caused by fans who had been celebrating the V coming home that day.

  22. The Flying Pig says:

  23. BoulderPhinfan says:

    welker is done. There is a reason no one is looking at him. He’d just have to take on the mentor role if he signs somewhere. If I were him I’d just retire.

  24. Al in MIA says:

    Detroit probably has to take another DT after the exodus of Suh & Farley.
    Malcom Brown?

  25. Rockphin says:

    Good morning everyone. Especially my California resident friends. I am in Irvine California this morning. I flew 11 hours last night including connections To attend a four hour meeting here at the hotel. I got to my room at 3 a.m. Florida time. ( My body is still on Florida time) I fly back out to Florida at 2 p.m. California time And land at 1 a.m. Florida time! 20 plus hours of travel to attend a four hour meeting!!!! It is beautiful here in Irvine this morning But I am dead tired

  26. Al in MIA says:

    I think these vets such as Jennings & Welker have value but the problem is they are looking for future money and GM are looking at future production and not seeing the same value player is asking.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yep! These guys aren’t going to settle just yet. They may also have a number that they won’t play for so if they don’t get whatever the amount is they might hang it up.

  27. Rockphin says:

    I don’t think Welker is a good fit at this time. We have Landry in the slot And although I love Wes Welker I would rather see Landry Continue to develop more

    • Tim Knight says:

      He wouldn’t replace Landry. He’d likely be a 4th WR in 4 WR sets and could lineup in those bunch/triangle screen formations. Signing Welker wouldn’t effect the position much if it even happens.

  28. Paul Warfield was the greatest WR in Miami Dolphins history. He’s a Hall of Famer, his name is up on the stadium with other Fins greats; there is a statute of him on the north end of the stadium near Marino, Shula, and Joe Robbie. The End.

  29. Al in MIA says:

    Ah, but Ngata is on his last legs and a replacement in training will be needed.

    The other DT spot was also vacated (CJ Mosley is a FA) and plugged with -> Tyrunn Walker (FA signing). They need talent at DT but then again they also need OL help since Stafford got sacked 40+ times this year. I don’t like Goldman or the value of DT left at 23 for Detroit so they will probably go look at OL & DB

    They can look at DJ Humphries or Jake Fisher for OT (both who i think are going to be better than Flowers IMO).

    For RD 2, they can someone like Michael Bennett to complement Ngata or even later take someone like Gabe Wright.

  30. Al in MIA says:

    This was Tannenbaum’s face when Jennings agent told him the asking price

  31. jahndoh says:

    Wow Rock, make them book you a freakin’ room next time! Coast to coast with no overnight? Crazy!

  32. The Flying Pig says:

    Tim and Al

    I don;t think you are wrong about Detroit
    DT is the first thing I thought of

    but all the experts at NFl picked OL to them

  33. Rockphin says:

    Good morning Jahn. I did get a room. I slept in it for 4 hours last night. LOL
    I have a bid going out tomorrow For another project So I didn’t have time to spend the night here again. Plus The flights are all crazy

  34. Rockphin says:

    You know what the most fucked up thing is? I miss my wife more when I’m traveling a way out of town Then I do when I’m at home and she’s not there. She has basically been gone since Christmas And has just started moving her stuff out this week. I miss her more when I’m gone then I do when I’m at home

    • Tim Knight says:

      Maybe that’s because you feel somewhat alone while traveling.

      • Rockphin says:

        You can’t get any more alone than alone. But I get your point. I used to call her every morning when I woke up and every night before I went to bed When I was traveling.
        Fucking sucks I got left for a gay guy. She spends every day with her new best friend Who is a gay crossdresser

  35. Rockphin says:

    The worst part of it all is I caught the bug that’s going around And I have been sick as a dog! Body aches Cough runny nose Etc etc

  36. Mike E. says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 12 (CLE): Kevin White, WR, West Virginia (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 24 (PITT): Marcus Peters, CB, Washington (A)
    Round 3 Pick 18 (HOU): Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 23 (PITT): Davis Tull, OLB, Chattanooga (B)
    Round 5 Pick 13: MyCole Pruitt, TE, Southern Illinois (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Karlos Williams, RB, Florida State (A+)

  37. BoulderPhinfan says:

    If we sign welker and he gets hit once he WILL be standing around and mentoring. And there is high probability that welker will get hit in the head. Probably the 1st game of the year. So if we’re bringing him we’re doing it knowing that he’ll probably just be mentoring people.

  38. Rockphin says:

    Mike I think your draft is great but also impossible!

  39. Tim Knight says:

    Rock, she’s in a relationship with a gay guy?

    • Rockphin says:

      Her mother says she’s having an emotional affair. He is gay as gay gets And doesn’t have interest sexually in women But they are best of friends. So yeah basically she left me for a gay guy. I mean she left me to leave me But she’s filling the emotional void with her best friend

      • Tim Knight says:

        Gotcha! Sorry you’re going through this.

      • stangerx says:

        Rock — emotional void is the key. Crossdresser or hanging out with that old girlfriend, not much of a difference. Always amazed at how I never hear about so many of my wife’s friends until they get in trouble in their relationships. Nice and supportive as she is she’s like their help call line.

  40. Rockphin says:

    Ok I need to go to my meeting and spread my sickness around. Call me Typhoid Rockphin

  41. Rockphin says:

    I might catch up with y’all later between flights. Have a great day guys

  42. jetsssuck says:

    stangerx says:
    April 8, 2015 at 10:23 am

    ” Alligator Alley, from Ft. Lauderdale to Naples (about a 120 miles) was packed with Dolfans driving across the state to the west coast to see the game on TV. Similarly, I-95 north was jammed with fans heading north to Fort Pierce (about 125 miles away from Miami) to avoid the TV blackout. ”

    OD — those are the fascinating tidbits I love in your stuff. Wonder how many accidents the blackout rule caused by fans who had been celebrating the V coming home that day.
    Fans didn’t cause traffic jams on the highways to see the games. The people watched games at local watering holes/hotels that had satellites even though it was against the law. It took the NFL years to enforce tv rights and they eventually gave up. It cost only $795 for a fully operational sattelight system. The locals authorities enforced laws that made owning a dish hard since you had to camouflage the outside dish. But one can say the tv/cable/sattelight market came alive during the early 70’s because of local professional football and of course the many European sex channels. LOL

    • stangerx says:

      JS — they had the dish back in ’72? My family didn’t even get cable till like ’79.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I don’t think they were around until the late 70s.

      • jetsssuck says:

        yes sattelights were available back then. Like I said locals headed to local watering holes and motels and people who had sattelights. sattelights were being used in the 40’s-60’s. Maybe the cable was not available in your area but cable has been around a long time.

  43. Brian in NY says:

    Rockphin says:
    April 8, 2015 at 11:47 am
    I think I caught it in New Jersey last week
    Mike E. says:
    April 8, 2015 at 11:49 am
    Feel better Rock! Of course, blame New Jersey. lol
    Rock is a New Yorker at heart.

  44. Mike E. says:

    A SONshine Draft

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 17 (S.D.): Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia (A)
    Round 2 Pick 15: Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (A)
    Round 2 Pick 16 (S.D.): D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Jordan Hicks, OLB, Texas (B)
    Round 5 Pick 13: Charles Gaines, CB, Louisville (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 14: MyCole Pruitt, TE, Southern Illinois (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Derrick Lott, DT, Chattanooga (B)

  45. stangerx says:

    I hate to say it, but I’m thinking Hernandez might be found not guilty. Not only is there “beyond a reasonable doubt” but the decision must be unanimous….so one juror don’t see it and it’s on to the next trial.

    Would be interesting to see what happens in the trials afterwards of the other two guys in the car though. Hernandez’s lawyer has already admitted there was a killing with just those three guys and the victim there. Imagine if with double jeopardy attached Aaron then said “Hey I did it….those guys had nothing to do with it.” That would be a Law & Order moment.

    • jahndoh says:

      I know you’re really into the trial, but those guys don’t usually go to trial without a 90% certainty they’re going to get a conviction. “reasonable doubt” means it has to be reasonably believable. I don’t think his defense offered that up. They offered up “doubt” just not “reasonable doubt”.

      • stangerx says:

        Problem is that they have set up like one of those old stories……”four guys in a car, one dies and who shot him — and none of them will tell you who and this one guy now claims he was there and admits to covering it up after.” How can you know that is wrong for sure?

  46. Mike E. says:


    People had those huge satellite dishes. They were around $1000, but I knew one or two people who had them.

    • Mike E. says:

      Like this one

      • jetsssuck says:

        exactly,that one looks like it was mounted to the house. Our sattelight was mounted in the ground.

    • Tim Knight says:

      In 1972?

      • Mike E. says:

        Looks like it started in 1976 Tim

      • jetsssuck says:

        how do you think the tv was broadcast around the nation? They didn’t have cables running through the atmosphere into space. In the early 60′ through the late 70’t at cape cavenuel (sic) their was space launches daily for commercial sattelights. I witnessed many when my grandfather drove me up there. The ground would shake several miles away and I heard stories up to 15 miles away.

  47. Tim Knight says:

    I used to go to bars with dishes like that in the 80s but they had to tap into the local markets and if it was blacked out no go. My friend and I tried really hard to see Dolphins games before the NFL Ticket. We even drove to CT when they were playing the Pats.

  48. Mike E. says:

    Last one for a while. Sorry Tim! lol

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 27 (DAL): Jake Fisher, OT/OG, Oregon (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 11 (CLE): Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (A)
    Round 2 Pick 15: Ameer Abdullah, RB, Nebraska (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 28 (DAL): Jaquiski Tartt, SS/FS, Samford (B-)
    Round 3 Pick 27 (DAL): Denzel Perryman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.) (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 13: MyCole Pruitt, TE, Southern Illinois (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Jordan Hicks, OLB, Texas (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 15: JaCorey Shepherd, CB, Kansas (A+)

  49. Tim Knight says:

    jetssuck, I’m not a scientist but I thought TV used similar technology to radio waves. I don’t remember seeing those satellite dishes in the 70s but yes in the 80s. Not saying they didn’t exist then, I just didn’t see them until the 80s.

    • jetsssuck says:

      the basic concept is the same but to explain it in detail would waste a lot of time and I’m sure it would put you to sleep and we can’t have that happen to our most active level headed blogger.LOL

  50. Mike E. says:

    Beginning of the satellite TV industry, 1976-1980

    The satellite television industry developed first in the US from the cable television industry as communication satellites were being used to distribute television programming to remote cable television headends. Home Box Office (HBO), Turner Broadcasting System (TBS), and Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN, later The Family Channel) were among the first to use satellite television to deliver programming. Taylor Howard of San Andreas, California became the first person to receive C-band satellite signals with his home-built system in 1976.[47]

    In the US, PBS, a non-profit public broadcasting service, began to distribute its television programming by satellite in 1978.[48]

    In 1979 Soviet engineers developed the Moskva (or Moscow) system of broadcasting and delivering of TV signals via satellites. They launched the Gorizont communication satellites later that same year. These satellites used geostationary orbits.[49] They were equipped with powerful on-board transponders, so the size of receiving parabolic antennas of downlink stations was reduced to 4 and 2.5 metres.[49] On October 18, 1979, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) began allowing people to have home satellite earth stations without a federal government license.[50] The front cover of the 1979 Neiman-Marcus Christmas catalogue featured the first home satellite TV stations on sale for $36,500.[51] The dishes were nearly 20 feet (6.1 m) in diameter[52] and were remote controlled.[53] The price went down by half soon after that, but there were only eight more channels.[54] The Society for Private and Commercial Earth Stations (SPACE), an organisation which represented consumers and satellite TV system owners was established in 1980.[55]

    Early satellite television systems were not very popular due to their expense and large dish size.[56] The satellite television dishes of the systems in the late 1970s and early 1980s were 10 to 16 feet (3.0 to 4.9 m) in diameter,[57] made of fibreglass or solid aluminum or steel,[58] and in the United States cost more than $5,000, sometimes as much as $10,000.[59] Programming sent from ground stations was relayed from eighteen satellites in geostationary orbit located 22,300 miles (35,900 km) above the Earth.[60][61]

  51. stangerx says:

    After a little research — The first The first satellite television signals from Europe to North America were relayed via the Telstar satellite over the Atlantic ocean in 1962. The first commercial satellite available to the public was in 1976, but the signals were there to be grabbed long before that.

    Sounds like jetssuck was hanging out with some tech pirates, which goes with him saying how the dishes had to be camouflaged.

    • Tim Knight says:

      There are always trendsetters. LOL

      • stangerx says:

        No expert, but I do remember how the pirate dish owners were biotching when providers like HBO and the networks started scrambling their feed. All of a sudden that expensive dish was just scrap metal.

      • jetsssuck says:

        My parents maybe but me no. Everyone or almost everyone in our neighborhood had a sattelight. It wasn’t uncommon. My father stopped going to the games when he could watch on TV. I got caught by my older sister when I sneaked downstairs to watch porn on sattelight late night.She blackmailed me for a whole summer until I found out when she had sleep overs with her girl friends she was a lesbo.

  52. wyoming85 says:

    Adam Schefter retweeted

    Rebecca Lopez ‏@rlopezwfaa · 36m36 minutes ago
    Dallas PD sources say Denver Broncos CB Aqib Talib & his brother are under investigation for an agg assault early this AM at a nightclub.

  53. The Flying Pig says:

    Some one needs to break the tie between Erving and Clemmings

  54. wyoming85 says:

    It sounds like you were sneaking into the wrong area! 😉

  55. Mike E. says:


    Was your sister a lesbo, her friend, or both?

  56. Tim Knight says:

    “She blackmailed me for a whole summer until I found out when she had sleep overs with her girl friends she was a lesbo.”


  57. getterdone says:

    Sheesh, I leave for a couple of days and you cake suckers select Trae Waynes 👿

  58. The Flying Pig says:

    I said “break the tie” not add a new name to the tie

  59. Mike E. says:

    GDP -We’ll do another draft soon. I hate this draft. Not that it’s far off from reality, but i still hate it. lol

  60. getterdone says:

    So I see we’re down to Crabs, Jennings, & Wesley as our last vet WR addition before the draft.
    All bring good qualities, but I think Jennings has the most well rounded attributes both on and off the field, as well as in the locker room.
    If Jennings can still huff it pretty well @ 31, then we should sign him on a 2 yr deal, where only 1 year really costs us.

    Jennings would be hard to cover one on one when defenses have to worry about Stills speed, Landry’s elusiveness, & Cameron’s mismatches on LB’s & Safeties.

    Lazor & Tanny would have to be licking their chops!!!

    • stangerx says:

      Think Jennings would be the best fit….and not like he doesn’t know the O the most. Does seem they are interested in a wideout mentor though.

    • stangerx says:

      My guess is that Wake is so excited to play next to Suh that he can barely sleep at night. 5th Pro Bowl on its way.

  61. jetsssuck says:

    Mike E. says:
    April 8, 2015 at 1:22 pm

    Sweet! Too bad you didn’t have a sleepover bonanza! lol
    Tim Knight says:
    April 8, 2015 at 1:25 pm

    Free love?
    You would think I would have got lucky more than once but my older sister made sure that wasn’t going to happen since I was blackmailing her. The only action I got out of the group besides the one lucky one time was bruised balls. These older girls liked to punch me in the balls maybe it was payback for blackmailing my sister till she moved out.

  62. getterdone says:

    All this F’kin around with Crabs, Jennings, & now Welker, we should have signed the just turned 26yo Leonard Hankerson to the 1yr $1M deal that the Falcons did.
    When the kid is healthy, he can play…plus we could’ve still taken a WR in the draft by paying Hankerson so little.

  63. jetsssuck says:

    what’s really funny is my granddaughter was crying last year because boys like to pull her hair and she doesn’t know it’s because boys like her. Well I taught her to defend herself and since her parents had to go to the principles office because she beat the crap out of boy, no boys mess with her anymore.

  64. Tim Knight says:

    Girls don’t get it, no need to punch or kick guys in the nuts, like Eddie Murphy said, you can just graze them. LOL

  65. The Flying Pig says:

    Its 3 prospect playoff time
    The first prospect to 3 votes is the selection

    # players tied int he last poll
    so the poll is reduced to 3 players
    Everyone pick one of the 3 players
    you can vote again if you voted last round

  66. Tim Knight says:

    That was a horrific cop shooting in SC. This time there is no doubt the cop is guilty of murder. The video doesn’t lie.

  67. jetsssuck says:

    here’s one last thing about satelights. The US is behind the technology curve in lots of industries compared to Europe. Internet,cell phones, TV, and most recently drones. Drones are struggling to get into the mainstream US market while Europe has hundreds of legalized uses already established. The US just established 4 test sights out west on what its capabilities and uses can be established. The bureaucratic red tape is holding back innovation.

    • Tim Knight says:

      “The bureaucratic red tape is holding back innovation.”

      No way? 🙂

      • jetsssuck says:

        Here’s one 4 U—-People are applying for cell phone patents for programming that was established for computers. The same programming code but in different industry. Innovation destroyed since technology is changing quickly and because the court system is full of patent lawsuits. People are getting paid off to release technology innovation lawsuits.

    • Brian in NY says:

      I remember reading that we were something like 3 years behind Europe in smart phone technology when they first came out here. I’m sure it has something to do with dragging out the advancements to sell more product.

      • jetsssuck says:

        I don’t know the answer to that but I know a lot of innovation is taking place in this country and we are usually the last to benefit from it.

  68. The Flying Pig says:

    Poll Closed
    TJ Clemmings is the pick

  69. Tim Knight says:

    This was a blurb from a MH article I read.
    “Dolphins safety Michael Thomas officially signed his one-year exclusive rights tender Wednesday. Thomas, who also met with Dolphins coaches, is expected to play a significant role for the team this season year — particularly if Louis Delmas’ rehabilitation from a torn ACL takes a turn for the worse.”

  70. The Flying Pig says:

    The Cards are on the clock

  71. Mike E. says:

    C’mon people. Get out and vote! lol

  72. Try Pod says:

    Satellite tv/cable tv had owe much of their genesis to Florida- the Keys ar in particular. Around 1975 you could purchase a package from a company called OnTV. They’d sell you a decoder to unscramble thei over the air signal. Also, cable had been laid to the keys from Miami so they had access to tv channels, as there were no affiliates south of Miami.

    • jetsssuck says:

      My wife is the manager of sam’s club on 12 th street and shee tells me there are people who make a living buying stuff at the sam’s club and driving down delivering and selling stuff to all the independent stores all the way down to the farthest point and then drive back to south florida. They work only 2-3 days a week.

    • Try Pod says:

      And, I remember the free porn jetsuck is taking about- both scrambled and unscrambled depending on circumstances.
      Also, as you may be able to tell by the typos, I am enjoying frozen beverages. So, snarf garble blod flonal to you all.

      • Tim Knight says:


      • jetsssuck says:

        remember the european was 100 times better than the soft porn the US had. The Europeans had the good hardcore stuff. My father didn’t teach me anything with the birds and bees speech I didn’t already know from watching the sattelight porn.

      • Try Pod says:

        I do jetsuck. Seka was a dirty girl.

      • jetsssuck says:

        for all the science I don’t understand from satteights to watch porn to computers with internet and finally to wifi internet watches. Although people must wear those watches on opposite hand of other hand in use. LOL

  73. The Flying Pig says:

    LMAO at the Seka reference

  74. The Flying Pig says:

  75. The Flying Pig says:

    Seka kind of looks like Rip Talor now

    (Piggy throws confetti on the blog)

  76. Try Pod says:

    Alright, I need to catch up with Tyrion, Jon Snow, Ghost and the others. Later.

  77. Tim Knight says:

    Seka isn’t European, she’s from Virginia.

  78. jetsssuck says:

    remember the old days 1970’s when we had life insurance commercials for NFL games then lots of food commercials now we have lots of viagra commercials.

  79. The Flying Pig says:

    We have 8 votes
    I would like 10 before I close it
    Gordon with 3 votes
    Peters with 2 votes

    Looks like one of those will take it

  80. The Flying Pig says:

    Tim Knight says:
    April 8, 2015 at 3:47 pm (Edit)
    Yeah no virgin for her. LOL
    If Seka is a virgin
    then there is an orifice no one knows about

  81. jetsssuck says:

    speaking of drones my stock for drne is at .286 which I bought 2000 shares at 1 buck each. Can’t dump them…

  82. The Flying Pig says:

    And the pick is Melvin Gordon to the Cards

  83. The Flying Pig says:

    The Panthers are on the clock

  84. The Flying Pig says:

    Looks liek the voters are thinkign WR to the Panthers

    If a WR goes now, it might be the last WR of the first round
    (Piggy licks his chops at who might be available in round 2)

  85. getterdone says:

    Can anybody spare a Manziel for a pack of smokes?

  86. Try Pod says:

    Any Which Way But Loose, Geoffrey Lewis One of the Bedoe Brothers

  87. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, do you have any cousins who are Piglet Squid?

  88. jetsssuck says:

    anyone use grubhub? It’s a delivery service for food. We use them for TGI Fridays and what’s weird is they are messing up the check. I tip the delivery driver 6 bucks for a 24 dollar bill for a total of 30 bucks. Well the last 3 times I’ve checked my bill on line bank statement and it lists only the 24 dollars instead of 30.At first I thought I didn’t write in the tip amount on the receipt deliver by the driver but yesterday I made sure of the tip and my on-line bill shows only 24 bucks. I know they have to tip the driver because why would he deliver food. Are they tipping the driver(grubhub) and not crediting their own business (tgi fridays)with 6 dollar tip.This would make tgi fridays bill for them at 18 bucks.

  89. The Flying Pig says:

    Looks like the WRs are getting all the votes so far

  90. jetsssuck says:

    My neighbor came over the other day and asked if I’d be her jogging partner. I told her I would first have to check with my cardiologist. Well, he nixed the idea. I gave her all your phone numbers so you can expect a call in the next day or two. You might want to check with YOUR doctor before you make a decision… just saying!

  91. Rockphin says:

    I just got to the airport at John Wayne And I’m about to board my plane. But I am NOT from New York. My dad grew up in Queens And was a Giants fan. I was born in Montreal Canada. I’m glad I could clear that up. LOL
    I might catch you on my layover In Houston.

  92. Brian in NY says:

    A HS buddy of mine works at the police department where that officer who shot the guy in the back worked. He’s embarassed about the whole situation.

    • stangerx says:

      I’ll be first to make fun of the whole protest no matter what about the incident thing……but that one was bad. And the chief came right out and said it was. Maybe sometimes it is more about the instance than the general theme.

      • Brian in NY says:

        That’s what my buddy said. It was just one foolish act that he can’t possibly defend, nor does it represent the department as a whole.

      • steveccnv says:

        And it all goes back to the lesson, most of us it appears, learned as kids, you don’t run from the POLICE. Should the cop have shot him, of course not, but 2 wrongs don’t make a right either. That cop should be put in jail and have the key thrown away, he’s a disgrace to society, and it just makes you wonder what would’ve happened, if there was no video.

        Parents should use this lesson to teach kids.

  93. The Flying Pig says:

    (Piggy puts on his running shoes)

  94. The Flying Pig says:

    Its a tie right now between Perriman and DGB

    Each has 3 votes so no one is out of it

    but 8 votes in if there was another vote for one of those guys – they would be hard to beat

  95. D says:

    This is our player visits so far.
    Vic Beasley, DE/OLB, Clemson
    Sammie Coates, WR, Auburn
    Darius Kilgo, DT, Maryland
    Vince Mayle, FB/WR, Washington State
    DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville
    Breshad Perriman, WR, Central Florida
    Eric Rowe, CB, Utah
    Jean Sifrin, TE, Massachusetts
    Ramik Wilson, ILB, Georgia
    To be fair there are other players we have met with and/or interviewed multiple times that we have as of et brought in for a private workout/visit at our facility. McKinney for example has been interviewed and had private meetings with our staff, just hasnt been brought to Miami. A couple listed above, like Parker, Beasley and Coates have had us interview them at their Pro days/Combine/Senior Bowl as well as the private workouts. This is more informational than a statement of who we will draft, but its good to know they have shown increasing interests on some players. Coates actually is the one i have heard they have met with the most since he was at all events and they spoke with him briefly at Senior Bowl, Combine, Pro day, and now a private visit.

    • D says:

      Sifrin i like a lot too. He’s one of those hybrid WR/TE’s i think would really help open up some neat formations and really screw with coverages. He and Saxton are some of my late round ideas for a TE selection.

  96. The Flying Pig says:

    Its all tied between Perriman and DGB

    I think we should have a two prospect playoff


    • The Flying Pig says:

      forget it
      some one cast the 5th vote
      DGB is now a Panther (in imaginary world)

      the Ravens are ont he clock

  97. steveccnv says:

    James Walker, ESPN Miami Dolphins reporter

    The Miami Dolphins are hosting free-agent receiver Wes Welker for a visit on Wednesday, according to a team source.

    Welker began his career with the Dolphins in 2004. However, Miami traded Welker to the AFC East rival New England Patriots in 2007. It was one of the worst mistakes the Dolphins have made in the past decade.


    what a Tard!

  98. son of a son of a shula says:

    Welker has been on ZERO Super Bowl winning teams. People act like he’s this great Champion, he played like shit in the big games he was in even drawing Gizell’s ire.

  99. The Flying Pig says:

    The Ravnes need DBs
    and there are a lot to choose from!

  100. son of a son of a shula says:

    Piggs I see DGB with the lead now

  101. jahndoh says:

    So the team that just let Greg Hardy walks drafts DGB? Funniest one yet.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Hey you sound like me

    • The Flying Pig says:

      They just played an entire season without Hardy
      The recievers on the baord were too good to pass up for a team that needs a receiver

      I think it makes perfect sense

      • jahndoh says:

        I didn’t question the position I questioned the player. If you don’t see the irony in the fact they took a hard line stance on Hardy, and let him walk without an offer than them drafting DGB, I can’t help ya.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        LOL, Jahn I hadn’t connected those dots, that’s funny, chalk another one up to us screwing up. Ooops

  102. The Flying Pig says:


    Now I get it Jahn

    Actually good point
    Its is pretty absurd
    I would have voted Perriman if I thought of that

  103. The Flying Pig says:

    We just Irelanded the Panthers with that pick


  104. son of a son of a shula says:

    Oh and it looks like Miami has traded up into the #26 spot from Baltimore
    The pick is in with the 26th pick in the 2015 NFL draft the Miami Dolphins select Breshad Perriman WR UCF.

  105. The Flying Pig says:

    I was thinking WR
    Strong is the highest rank
    But Strong is too similiar to Benjamin
    So I went with DGB

    • jahndoh says:

      Strong should probably come off the board before either of those guys, but I get the allure of Perriman’s speed.

  106. jahndoh says:

    Glad I made some sense to you guys. I actually just got back right before you made the pick final. I refreshed and was going to vote Perriman, but it was a done deal. I’m sure someone will take a chance at Beckham in that range, I just don’t think it’ll be the Panthers.

  107. The Flying Pig says:

    I’m out for now

    Vote for the Ravens PICK!!!

  108. son of a son of a shula says:

    Thanks for the info on who visited D good stuff.

  109. The Flying Pig says:

    I’m going to go ahead and predict that of the final 7 picks left in the first round
    at least 5 will be defensive players

    I expect to see Goldman, Peters, Thompson and at least one other CB come of the baord

  110. Brian in NY says:

    That’s exactly why I voted for Perriman over DGB.

  111. Tim Knight says:

    Brian, yeah that shooting by the cop was bad. Made me sick to my stomach actually. That was murder.

  112. Tim Knight says:

    I’m not sure DGB goes in the 1st round.

    • Brian in NY says:

      Maybe not. He’ll go before we pick in the 2nd though. I think it all depends on how many WR’s get picked early. That will push him up the board a bit. It wouldn’t shock me to see him go in the 1st though; teams are suckers for talent.

      • Tim Knight says:

        True but I wouldn’t be surprised if he feel. Moss fell to #21 and he was a much better prospect than DGB.

  113. olddolphan says:

    GOOD NEWS FROM ALEX RODRIGUEZ STADIUM (A.K.A. “A-ROID STADIUM) in Coral Gables.–Florida Atlantic’s Brendon Sanger cannected for a 2-run double with 2 outs in the top of the 5th inning to extend FAU’s lead over the baseball Hurricanes to 3-0 going into the bottom of the 5th. –This game is still very much up for grabs BUT an FAU win here would improve the Owls’ RPI, as calculated by the NCAA. –Currently FAU’s RPI is 10th in Division I; Miami’s RPI is #2 in the nation. These RPI rankings are VERY IMPORTANT when it comes to seeding in the Post-Season baseball tournament, otherwise known as “JUNE MADNESS.”

  114. Tim Knight says:

    Watch us pick Shaq Thompson and play him at safety and nickel LB – meaning he’s always on the field.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      That can work
      It would not be a horrible pick actually

      • Tim Knight says:

        I agree, a box safety and LB like mentality patrolling the open field. He might be a good 2015 type player. That’s the same thing I thought about Landon Collins. They are both similar in size with similar skill sets.

  115. stangerx says:

    Report is that the Yets signed Stevan Ridley. He ain’t bad.

  116. stangerx says:

    “Hernandez is charged with illegally possessing a .45-caliber handgun and .22-caliber ammunition. Jurors asked whether they needed to find Hernandez intended to use the item. The judge said no.”
    They were all told that in the jury instructions, but some dumb-dumb who is going to get Hernandez off made the rest of them ask the judge again cause he didn’t get it the first time.

  117. stangerx says:

    Sounds like he liked more than just Pina Coladas and walks in the rain…..not a shocker though.
    Barry Manilow, the famed 70s pop singer who brought us such delightful hits as “Copacabana” and “Looks Like We Made It” recently got married to his manager, Garry Kief.

  118. jetsssuck says:

    I wonder how close Israel is to bombing and destroying Iran’s nuclear sites. They have carried out nuclear attacks before that destroyed reactors before in Syria, Iraq and yes Iran. We can’t have a President who is so naive to believe Iran is going to obey the rules of the agreement when they lied every chance with the tightening of sanctions. Why couldn’t the agreement have included a US reporter who is being held hostage?

  119. The Flying Pig says:


    When it comes to DGB going in the 1st round

    I really think a lot if teams have varying grades in DGB, Strong and Perriman

    I actually think there probably is a lot of variation over the top 6

    But if the draft goes like ours for WRs
    And a team is going to take the 4th WR
    Than I really think DGB is as likely the pick as strong and Perriman

    And I think the possibility of 4 WRs in the 1st round is high

  120. getterdone says:

    Jets signed RB Stevan Ridley to a one-year contract.
    Five months removed from ACL surgery, Ridley will attempt to reestablish his value in New York. He should be part of a rotation with Chris Ivory and third-down back Bilal Powell, giving him limited fantasy value. Ridley has averaged 4.1 YPC since breaking out for 1,263 yards in 2012. He reportedly turned down offers from Washington and Miami for a chance to play in Chan Gailey’s offense. Ridley is questionable for the start of training camp.

  121. Ken says:

    What’ up FUers?

  122. getterdone says:

    Free agent Wes Welker left his visit with the Dolphins without a contract.
    The Dolphins are Welker’s only free-agent visit. He wouldn’t give Miami more than veteran depth behind slot WR Jarvis Landry. Entering his age-34 season, Welker is reportedly considering retirement.

  123. The Flying Pig says:

    What’s up Ken

    Make sure you vote on the draft poll

    You too Steve

  124. The Flying Pig says:
  125. The Flying Pig says:

    • Ken says:

      I am thinking Amari Cooper is the target. One of the big 2 WRs is likely the move if they do that.

    • The Flying Pig says:


      Rang is suggesting we might trade the 14 and next years no 1 for Kevin white

      Moving Into the top 5

      Believe it ?

      It’s kind of crazy

      But I would live to acquire Kevin white

      • Ken says:

        I normally am conservative when it comes to draft trades but I think Miami is creating a small window of opportunity with the signing of Suh and Cam Wake’s advancing age. They need to load up to make a run in the next couple of years so I would welcome an aggressive move to go and get a couple of key pieces toward such a run.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        I like Cooper best but would love White too.
        I’ve been saying we will trade up, I really feel we will.
        Like Ken just said with the small window but also worthwhile talent to go and get as well.

      • Ken says:

        I am starting to feel trade up as well. I have to give some props to Tim. He said it the day after the Suh signing that we should trade up and get Kevin White.

  126. son of a son of a shula says:

    Piggs, I cheated and looked at the schedule so I know who it is but I held off on reading it.

  127. son of a son of a shula says:

    Also Piggs I sent you an email

  128. son of a son of a shula says:

    Ken do your bosses know how much they’ve cut into your blogging time? Is there someone I can send an email to?

  129. Tim Knight says:

    Ken, I posted last week that my brother-in-law who is a big Giants fan liked what we’ve done this offseason and he doesn’t think we’re done. He also thinks we will try to move up for Cooper who I think will fit great in our offense. You can line him up anywhere. You don’t sign Suh and say we’re building for the future. We’re gearing up to go for it. Cooper or White works for me. I like them much more than Parker. I think they’re more versatile and explosive.

    • Ken says:

      My rankings are Cooper, White and Parker in that order. Cooper and White definitely a notch higher imo than Parker but I like Parker a lot too. I would have no hesitation drafting him at 14. I don’t think you move up to take him but if he is there at the other 2 are gone I would be fine with that. However, I think the other 2 are guys you can move up for.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Agreed. Just saw your props to me about trading up. The direction of this franchise has changed from we’re building to now. Tannehill, Suh and other key parts point to winning now, no more we’re working on it.

        One thing I’ll say about Tannebaum, that’s his mentality as an executive. He brought that gusto to win now to the org even though I feel Hickey wasn’t about a rebuild either. He was handed a shit storm on the OL in his first year as GM. The result was Albert, James #1 and Turner #3. That showed me he had a feel for this team.

        I like the direction we’re going in.

      • Ken says:

        My only concern with Tannebaum is that he does mortgage the future for the immediate and he made some questionable deals that way with the Jets. He did get them 2 AFC championship games but then they fell off a cliff. So I like the win now stuff but I want a team that is built to win now and later much like the Steelers have been or the Packers have been. Very consistent long term successful franchises.

  130. Ken says:

    Well my night time drive needs to end. In the past day I had my son at the doctors, my car broke down and needed to get towed and I was at a wake for a friend that died suddenly and unexpectedly on Sunday. So I have had enough shit for one day. Going to get some sleep and pretend this day never happened. Peace to you all.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Dang dude, sorry about your friend and I hope things start getting better for you. Stay tough.

  131. Tim Knight says:

    Ken, I don’t view the past of Mr. T as a sign of failure. The Jets did get to two AFC championship games two years in a row with him as their GM. I’d sign up for that right now because it’s not the same team and the games haven’t been played yet. People tend to focus on his mistakes and ignore his success. He admitted his mistakes on WFAN with Francesa and said like any of us would say you learn from your mistakes. His biggest mistake was signing Sanchez to an extension when he didn’t have to.

    When you look at our current situation we signed Suh to a major deal but also released 5 major contracts simultaneously.

    That said, don’t think Hickey didn’t have anything to do with it because he’s the guy doing the personnel work and Mr. T signs off on it. Mr. T is Ross’ football eyes. Carl Peterson is no longer involved for those who need that release. LOL

  132. Tim Knight says:

    Ken, geez man. Sorry for the tough and sad times. Sending positive vibes your way.

  133. Ken says:

    Thank you both. Tomorrow has to be better. It was tough losing a friend of ours very unexpectedly. Her son and my boys have been together since nursery school. She thought she had a chest cold for the last week, couldn’t breath on Sunday, went to the ER and had a massive heart attack. They think it was a viral infection around the heart, endocarditis that induced the heart attack. My wife took it hard. She was all freaked out because my son has bronchitis so she made sure he went to the MDs today. j

  134. The Flying Pig says:

    I got your email and replied
    (Piggy shrugs)
    I think its the embed code that an issue
    Maybe Herd can figure it out…

  135. The Flying Pig says:

    Dallas is on the clock

  136. The Flying Pig says:

    New mock draft on nflcom
    Look who we take now!

  137. son of a son of a shula says:

    Piggy I got it to work

  138. jetsssuck says:

    KEN—-Sad to hear the loss of your family friend. My prayers will go out to them and your family in this time of sadness.

  139. BoulderPhinfan says:

    I guess we didn’t learn from the dion jordan mistake if we move into top 10.

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