The Senior Bowl Experience

By D

Senior Bowl week can be broken down into 3 distinct phases. First phase are the practices, where the players get to gain valuable experience working with NFL staff, meet with team executives and coaches, get valuable looks from scouts and also get additional financial and profession counselling. This can be the week that a player makes or breaks himself, potentially earning or costing them millions in contract money. Practices by far make the most difference from a scouting perspective as these are pretty much for the eyes of NFL evaluators. They also have scheduled post practice private meetings with GM’s, as well as team hosted dinner events.

The second phase of Senior Bowl week is the interaction with the public. Players generally go to local hospitals, schools, etc. and they meet with kids/parents. There is also the player meet and greet scheduled for Friday of Senior Bowl week. This is an event I attended for the first time this year and it was a blast. I got to meet, and have brief conversations with players, some of which I left VERY impressed with. Each player meets with fans and signs autographs for about an hour and 15 minutes straight, and at a pretty fast pace. These events are designed for players to see the effect they have on fans lives, and how their actions and attitudes are important. It is also designed to prepare them for things to come, things like sitting down for hours on end to sign auto-graphs for both those fans who would travel across the country just to meet them, and to those who may be getting that signature for financial gain. Through it all is a revelation how giving back, and remaining professional and respectful to fans is now as much a part of their job as playing football.

The last phase is the game, and while it gets all the coverage, to be honest it’s the least important of all phases. It is the final test in a week full of preparation and scrutiny, the culmination of a very taxing week and a chance to put their college colors on one last time. They are stepping out of the old life and into the new. It’s the last College Bowl game, and yet, already they have new game, new rules, new formations, and new coaches who could possibly be part of their new lives. The week is kind of culture shock for a lot of them but in spite of how draining it, it’s really just the beginning. After the last seconds of that game, players have to start moving on, start thinking of what’s up next, start taking all the things learned at Senior Bowl, all those flaws that were pointed out to them and have those ironed out before Combine. Drop 10 pounds, shave a couple seconds off that 40 time, work on running better route, rehab that tweaked thigh muscle, they have 3 weeks.

There is one last thing for fans and it occurs right after the game ends. When the game ends, some fans stay behind and line up at fences near the buses the players leave in. This is something that is really important to me, so every year, I try my best to go see the players off. The players got to the locker rooms, change out and then walk out and say goodbye to their fans, sign their last autographs as college stars, and jump on the bus to go off and catch a plane and begin their professional lives. It’s always the best time to me, and sometimes the saddest. I have always had at least one player I have had to say goodbye to as a Gator, so in some ways it kinda stinks, but then again, it’s also very exciting. In some ways, to me, it’s almost similar to the feeling you get when you drop your kid off on that first day of school. I usually don’t bother with getting an autograph, I just shake some hands and tell them that I am hoping the best for them in the draft and the rest of their careers, It’s a great wrap up to one of my most favorite weeks of football.

As a postscript, I would like to say will have plenty about the prospects I met, comments about them, what some scouting information I got on, etc., but I’ll do them as comments, I typed this thing like 5 times, and each time it was so massive I decided to just focus on what the week means to the players and fans and try to bring a little bit of this experience to you guys. I hope maybe one year we can do a FU meet down here for the week and do this as a group. I think it would be a really great time.


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295 Responses to The Senior Bowl Experience

  1. Mike E. says:

    First! YES! YES!!! lol

  2. stangerx says:

    Now I really know it is Groundhog’s Day.

    Great job D!

  3. Tim Knight says:

    So it couldn’t carry over the comments?

    • Mike E. says:

      No – I just copied it and re-posted it. I couldn’t see any way to just reinstate the post along with the comments. My work PC and my brain are very limited. lol

  4. Mike E. says:

    I agree with Cameron. I’m willing to move on from him. We could spend his salary elsewhere.

  5. Tim Knight says:

    The deal with Cameron all depends on what Gase feels about him in his offense. If he’ll be a big part of it or not. If he’s not going to be one of the focuses he’s not worth keeping at that salary.

  6. D says:

    I dont expect Cameron, i think a lot do, but i think Gase will stick with him unless he is just sold on a guy in the draft, that he feels assured he can get. This isnt a great TE draft and there arent many TE’s in FA that are as good. I really feel there were two major issues with Cameron this year. No chemistry with Tanny, and poor play design. I saw a bunch of times he was behind defensers and open deep, i saw several times where he an Tanny just didnt have the timing down with him on crossing routes (most the time Cameron was open and to certain spots well before Tanny anticipated. They also started getting more in sync with one another as the year went on, again pointing to a chemistry issue that changes as they year progressed. Unless there are just major personality conflicts, or they fall in love with a draftee, i just dont see it. Id expect to see a bunch more cuts before that one, so if it happens it happens late.

  7. The Flying Pig says:

    Ask twice if he knows how to run it with comments

    The Oddyssey was scheduled before Ds article went up (I think Herd pushed it back a day)

    There is a wedge scouting report scheduled for tomorrow
    So if you want to run Ds piece another day or so – just push back the wedge scouting report

    I scheduled an Oddyssey every Monday
    And a wedge report every Tuesday for the next few weeks when we did have anything else scheduled

    If you want to run a certain piece (ahem Mike E) for a few days you just have to push back the previously scheduled post so that the current one will run

    You just have to modify the schedule

    I swear Mike it’s like watching headless children try on hats

    • D says:

      Lol, i honestly think everything would have been cool with the repost of the Oddessy were it without the previous posts. I think the biggest thing for me is i jump on and start reading comments and then somewhere down the line im like wait, these comments are from 2 months ago, and then i have to check dates to see which are new posts, etc.

  8. Mike E. says:

    There are plenty of FA TE’s this season, Ben Watson, Coby Fleenah, Jermaine Gresham, Vernon Davis, Zach Miller.. Plenty of options

    • D says:

      Plenty of options, but none of those guys are seam threats like Cameron. Camerou was neck and neck with Jimmy Graham last year in FA. Teams felt like both were good options, Jimmy was the better one, but still Cameron is a very talented, uniquely so, TE. He isnt that easily replaced. His issue has always been health, he showed last year he can stay healthy, the playing better will come with time with Tanny.

  9. D says:

    Anyone see that Morrison pick i posted this morning to the older Senior Bowl post?

  10. getterdone says:

    Mike E. says:
    February 2, 2016 at 11:04 am
    There are plenty of FA TE’s this season, Ben Watson, Coby Fleenah, Jermaine Gresham, Vernon Davis, Zach Miller.. Plenty of options

    None of them did anything that was heads and tails above Cameron & about 4 of them are much older.

    • D says:

      Watson is the only one i think could give you the vertical threat that Cameron does and he is aging. I wouldnt sign him in FA, Fleenah has never done anything special and thats with a QB he has tons of chemistry with. Vernon Davis does not look like the Davis of old at all and Gresham is someone everyone here gets excited for every year but he really isnt that good.

  11. D says:

    Again, i would make the cut IF we are absolutely needing the cap space. If there is a move to make out there that would really solidify the team and i have made my other cuts and its down to Cameron as the last one, id cut him to improve our team significantly in another area. If its not significant or there is another person i can cut to get me the needed space, im holding on to him and cutting someone else. Used correctly and with better chemistry his next year could be monster.

    • getterdone says:

      exactly…besides, the talk is they have a caveat in Suh’s deal that he can be restructured to lower his hit some this year.
      I don’t see Cameron’s salary for a player that’s healthy and contributing as much a hindrance as some of the other high priced guys we got.

  12. getterdone says:

    Mike, Cameron was in a new offense for him. He still caught 35 passes (when he wasn’t required to stay in to help the poor OL play) for an 11 yd average & 3 TD’s, including a game winner I believe.
    ….and like D mentioned. He stayed healthy, and that was everyone’s big worry.

    I think Gase will make things easier for all the receivers, including the TE’s.
    Cameron is 6’5 260 & can make plays. Not many TE’s can do that around the league, and new ones drafted have mostly struggled a year or two as you’ve seen.

    So if you think drafting one is a quick fix, it’s likely not. So be patient for a few years till that guy develops.

  13. Tim Knight says:

    Cameron wasn’t really a big part of our offense last yearwhich is another thing Lazor goofed up. We signed the guy to be a weapon and he made him a 3rd option. He’d much rather throw his bubble screens then exploit the middle of the field. Jerkoff! LOL

  14. Mike E. says:

    D, GDP

    Most of those guys except Davis are more complete TE’s than Cameron, especially Gresham, Watson, and Fleenah. Cameron doesn’t block, and really, he’s had one productive season. I don’t see what everyone loves about him.

    • Tim Knight says:

      He has separation ability. Ben Watson had his best season this past year in his 12 year. TE numbers don’t always tell the whole story.

  15. Al in MIA says:

    D says:
    February 2, 2016 at 10:03 am

    A lot of those CB’s at Senior Bowl could easily be FS’s. Its a lot easier transition to move from CB to FSthan the other way so if we were to draft a guy out of position and expect them to start id rather do that than draft someone like Jalen Mills as a CB.
    I think the more I think about how Belichick went about reconstructing his D to where it’s at now, the more I like the strategy of taking a cover corner early and the default option to move him to S if it doesn’t work out as good as the talent was suppose to be at CB (McCourty in example).

    Imagine if Vontae Davis would be moved to FS….I know people tout his pure man skills but he still exhibits those bad PI penalties against the better WR in this league.

    • getterdone says:

      Vontae isn’t the best of examples. He went on to Indy & has done well @ CB.

    • D says:

      I can see several of the CB’s i saw moving to FS. Canaday for sure. He’s a pretty big dude. Thick and fairly tall, he would hold up in run support and has coverage skills to play well at FS. Sean Davis VERY easily could make the transition.

      Im still a fan of us getting a pure coverage guy early, i prefer with our first pick, and then get a second guy with flexibility to play the other side if that works out best of FS if it doesnt. Its possible Lippett makes the move over too. Thats kind of how i see it, replace Grimes with a top pick, take a second guy, with size who cant play the other outside spot or move to FS, with Lippett settling into the other role, outside or FS, whatever the other guy doesnt fill.

  16. D says:

    Its going to come down to a LOT of factors. Im sure right now they are getting a bse strategy with people they already have focused on as potential cuts. Those guys are laid out on a board somewhere and they also have their draft strategy started, maybe some early ideas of players they wish to target but for sure what positions they want to target based off their potential cut list.

    They will probably approach some of the player looking for them to restructure or flat out take a pay cut, how they respond very likely alters the plans and adjust every cascading strategy beneath it. Early on it will be top down adjustments but i think as the combine and pro-days start to get them sold on certain prospects its may start happening bottom up and becoming more certain of their draft board might actually initiate some later roster cuts.

    I find all of it pretty interesting really, kinda like watching a move that has no defined start or ending that just fluidly adjusts as you go, or like those old choose your own adventure books that changed the story by each decision you made as you read them.

    I do think some of the first steps are maybe a week before starting. I dont think its going to be much longer until we at least know the beginning of the book, the rest, like who we will be targeting in the first, will unfold after some of the other phases pass on.

  17. Al in MIA says:

    I’m not so sure Jordan Cameron is a good fit in Miami, however, that was under the old system. I think with Gase, it will be a matter of how the TE is going to be used. This whole thing with Lazor moving Cameron sideways instead of North/South along the seems really hurt him.

  18. dbolt48 says:

    Give me TE Tyler Higbee in the draft and call it a day. I’d bring back Stoneburner and keep his development going.

  19. Al in MIA says:

    Still, the price tag on Cameron is MEH IMO. Zach Miller is serviceable (probably will be ALOT cheaper) and was productive in Gase system.

  20. Mike E. says:

    I’d rather use Cameron’s money on re-signing Vernon and/or Miller

  21. Al in MIA says:

    I agree, still needs some development though so a FA patchwork type TE will be needed (assuming Cameron is to be cut) until Higbee can prove his worth in the lineup.

    Speaking of TE, what’s the deal with South Carolina TE Jerell Adams? PFF is in love with this guy and they keep talking up shit from the SR BOWL practices that he was flashed goodness.

    I haven’t really looked at him much.

    • dbolt48 says:

      I kind of quit paying attention to him after talking to my cousin from Hopkins SC. Who knows maybe he was hinder by the ball coach.

    • D says:

      Adams would best replace Cameron because he has the most ability as a seam threat. He was pretty good at Senior Bowl, was considered the best TE of the week. When i met him he seemed pretty thin to me, kind of lanky like a bball player. He weighed in at 6’5 244, but he looked taller and lighter. They said he was also the best blocking TE as well, going agaisnt Noah Spence in practices and defending him well.

    • dbolt48 says:

      Vet TE I’d consider is Scott Chandler. I heard BE is probably going to let him walk.

  22. Mike E. says:


    Watson was the 2nd TE with Graham in NO’s, so you can’t really count those years. Brees and Graham were the shit

  23. Al in MIA says:

    From what I’ve been reading, I think Noah Spence might have been the biggest winner out of the SR BOWL event. He’s looking top 10 now.

    • D says:

      Id say Vernon Butler, he was destroying people. Spence impressed on the field for sure, but i wouldnt say he was the biggest winner by a long shot. They said his interviews went badly. He came off less like he had moved on from his past and more defensive about it, also said he came off very arrogant. From the interviews i would be concerned he would be the next Dion Jordan. He had A LOT of drug issues at Ohio State. Being talented and getting kicked out of that school is pretty friggin hard to do. Some team will take a chance on him and get a good player, but im not sure if he will be able to manage himself at this point.

  24. bookman11 says:

    Miller had 34 receptions for Chicago in 2015, Martellus Bennet had 53. It would appear the Gase offense did utilize the TE position last year in the passing game.

    • Al in MIA says:

      Miller picked up the slack after Bennett went to the IR late in the season.

      • bookman11 says:

        10 yards per reception combined and 8 TDs. That is 8 out of Cutler’s 21 TD’s, maybe more of a redzone threat? Not that the Fins have struggled scoring TDs in the redzone…

  25. Al in MIA says:

    PFF says Adams was really limited by the passing game ….was asked to block alot and when he did run routes, they claim the passer was pretty terrible

  26. getterdone says:

    The 2015 season marks the first time PFF is honoring positional coaches and coordinators across the NFL. We felt it was time that the guys behind the scenes got the recognition their efforts deserved, and took it as an opportunity to highlight the work we saw as exemplary.

    It is important to understand that our selection process was not based around choosing the coach with the best overall talent, or even just the group who performed the best.

    In its simplest form, it was about who managed to get the most from what they had, whether that be All-Pros or undrafted free agents and cast-offs.

    Nary a Dolphin coach anywhere on the long list, even as a runner up.
    Glad Ross made a change of direction.

  27. getterdone says:

    I was talking up Jerell Adams well before the SB. Glad he continued to show well.
    Like I said before, he did well in a team having it’s HC retire midseason, and poor QB play.
    But he’s part of the new breed of TE’s with BB skills.

    But if we draft him, don’t expect big production out of the gates.
    Many of you here were drooling over Ebron and he’s still struggling in Detroit. How bout Amaro, etc…

  28. getterdone says:

    Al, yeah Spence looked like a guy ya want on the field, but…..but….. 😉

  29. D says:

    TE’s i like in this draft would be Hunter Henry, Jake McGee (really under the radar right now), Higbee, Vannett and Adams. Henry is the only one i would draft with the idea he replaces anyone. The rest i would draft as a third TE. A few of them i could see taking significant reps from Sims before the end of the year.

  30. Mike E. says:


    What RD is Henry expected to go?

  31. Al in MIA says:

    Any of you taken a look at TE David Morgan II out of U of Texas-San Antonio?
    He looks like a good inline blocker with quick compact feet.
    They split him out in the slot and edge a few times. Seems to round out his routes when going out for 10 yard square in/out routes but he seems to have those short compact leg movements you see out of someone like Jarvis Laundry that really helps him out in short space and on quick slant routes underneath.

  32. Al in MIA says:

    (Miller) all while playing with cracked ribs 🙂

  33. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, Watson has been in the league 12 years – 6 with NE, 3 with CLE and 3 with NO. My point was he never had a season as good as this year. It has nothing to do with Graham.

  34. Al in MIA says:


    I like Butler as well but if he moves into that high 20s range (20-24) then he certainly is a big winner with such a big drop off in money outside of the big round. My comment on Spence was just about moving into top 10 money…

    Here’s a list by the way of last year’s 1st RD draft class so everyone can see how the salaries play out per pick and what a big showing can do for any athlete looking for that guaranteed $ (scroll down to the bottom of the article to see the table).

  35. Al in MIA says:

    Ebron’s issue have been his hands…HUGE disappointment in that category. Otherwise he seems to be running good routes.

  36. Randy says:

    And none of our new coaches are on that list either. Lol

  37. dbolt48 says:

    Did you see Bloomsburg now has a block party Twitter handle😂😂😂😂

    @BloomBlockParty: 🙌🏻🙌🏻🍻

  38. Al in MIA says:


    • dbolt48 says:

      Best part is the photo they use for their handle. Students setting shit on fire while others watch while an armored police vehicle is pulling in😆

  39. Randy says:

    How about we just draft Henry Krieger Coble out of Iowa in the 5th round?

  40. dbolt48 says:

    From what has been mentioned about Gase it seems he prefers big OL, with that said what’s your opinion of Denver Kirkland as an OF who can serve as an B/U LT?

  41. Al in MIA says:

    Randy / GDP,
    Makes you feel comfortable that Gase retained about 7 coaches eh? lmfao.
    Anyway, I think some of these things are overrated (a support list). Good players and a strong HC dictate alot. You think McDaniels (Shula as well…sorry GDP! lol) is going to have similar success elsewhere? GTFO

    • Tim Knight says:

      6 of the coaches Gase retained are asst. positional coaches, quality control coaches, strength and conditioning trainers and those all important Football Research Analysts that we discuss all the time. The latter aren’t even considered coaches.

  42. Al in MIA says:

    Fire stuff sounds about right for mountain life lol (see WVU)

  43. Al in MIA says:

    For you SR BOWL guys, what was your impression on Indiana OL Jason Spriggs? Kept reading how he surprised (kept up with Spence at times) and that he’s an ideal fit for a zone block scheme. I don’t know if he will be available in RD 2 (projected 2nd rder) but as much as I hate wasting another pick on a OL, this fucking teams needs one and might have to grab one in the 2nd (I hope not the 1st GULP lol)

  44. Randy says:

    I haven’t looked at Kirkland in depth. From what little I’ve seen, my initial opinion is he’ll struggle with the speed of NFL DL…even inside. I don’t think he’d even be a legitimate option a tackle. But, if Gase likes them big…Kirkland fits. Will he be available in the 4th or 5th rounds? I wouldn’t be interested until probably he 5th.

  45. Randy says:

    I agree. players can make or break coaches. PFF is too subjective for me most of the time.

  46. sb7mvp says:

    The only thing I could notice about oline at the senior bowl was that Nick Martin constantly had the ear of his teammates when he was on the sideline.

  47. Al in MIA says:

    dbolt48 says:
    February 2, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    I had actually liked Tretola, but I saw a few different instances during SR. bowl week where he was taken off his feet by the DL and looked like Dallas Thomas.
    lmfao on Dallas Thomas reference 😦 . I hear Tretola is a mauler type blocker and not zone scheme fit…

    • Tim Knight says:

      I heard he plays with a lot of power but also moves pretty well.

    • dbolt48 says:

      Yeah, he is, but as I mentioned to Randy it’s been said Gase likes big OL & it also sounds like that’s the direction Grier wants to go to compete in our division. Tretola seemed impressive during the college season, but jebus it scares me when I see a big guy taken off his feet like I saw last week.

      • dbolt48 says:

        With him I guess the question is, same with Kirkland, we’re all of his defeciencies covered by playing on a unit that was the most massive in the game?

  48. Al in MIA says:

    Hypothetical question but you think Juwan James can play inside (in event Fins find another RT?) ?

  49. getterdone says:

    Tim Knight says:
    February 2, 2016 at 12:14 pm
    Mike, Watson has been in the league 12 years – 6 with NE, 3 with CLE and 3 with NO. My point was he never had a season as good as this year. It has nothing to do with Graham.

    It had to do with him being in the right situation at the right time….and opponents thinking he was more going to be an inline blocker as well as past his prime to get open.

    Plus, with Brees & the other weapons @ WR, life can be good for a TE in that system.

    We have to hope Gase brings that here as well, like he’s shown to recently & been part of/exposed to in the past.

  50. Randy says:

    Tretola didn’t stand out at all in SB practices, but i don’t put a lot of stock in those practices. OL is almost always at a disadvantage.

  51. dbolt48 says:

    @YoufeckingIdiot: Just goes to show, bomb disposal is best carried out WITHOUT using a hammer….

  52. Mike E. says:


    I think if Cameron stays, Tannehill better develop trust for him, because it didn’t seem as if Tanny trusted him. Just how it seemed to me.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yeah they didn’t seem to have great chemistry but TE wasn’t a big part of our offense. Just 58 receptions combined.

  53. D says:

    Spriggs was one of the best OT’s at Senior Bowl, but then again, most the others were fairly poor. Westerman, was really impressive. Tretola. Whitehair looked decent in the game especially. Didnt care for Beohm, Theus, etc.

    Tretola i think might have just been off balance because he shed like 20 pounds before senior bowl I heard comments about him being pretty much immovable by any of the DT’s but when the DT’s stunted the OC/OG gap he was over stepping it to cut them off and getting off balance. In the game it didnt matter much because when he fell he too his player out of the play anyways lol. I think he is a really solid OG prospect.

  54. Tim Knight says:

    Where did you guys hear we’re moving to more big OL over athletic ZBS types?

    • D says:

      Wasnt me….i have mentioned Tretola but im not saying bigger types is what we are going for.

    • dbolt48 says:

      When he was hired, I think it was Armando’s article, that made mention of Gase preferring bigger OL. Wasn’t going from one scheme to another. Grier on the other hand talked about getting bigger & stronger players when he was hired in order to compete against the physical fronts in the division.

  55. Randy says:

    Can James play inside? Probably. Should he? Hell no. Keep him at RT and he could end up being an all pro eventually.

  56. Randy says:

    I can only tell you what I saw. Tretola looked like a little better than a JAG to me. He also didn’t look all that big to me. 310-315 maybe….not all that big for an OG.

  57. getterdone says:

    dbolt48 says:
    February 2, 2016 at 1:08 pm
    @YoufeckingIdiot: Just goes to show, bomb disposal is best carried out WITHOUT using a hammer….

    WOW, all I saw was 2 huge triple HHH Ta Ta’s.

  58. D says:

    Westerman and Whitehair worry me a little due to lack of size. It may be only 10-15 pounds difference between they and Tretola, but thats a decent bit bracing against the push of a 310-330 pound DT. Westerman was at 296 and Whitehair even 300.

  59. Randy says:

    I thought Westerman did well for himself, but he definitely needs his technique to be sound because he will be overwhelmed by the size of NFL DTs if it’s not.

    • D says:

      I agree. Like i said he got good marks at Senior Bowl week, but he is really light for an inside guy. He will need to put on about 10 lbs and stay very sound technique wise, like you said. Id also be a lot more comfortable taking him if he pushes out a bunch of reps on the BP at combine. Show me some upper body strength.

  60. getterdone says:

    Al, I never said I’m comfortable with Gase, nor did anyone else.
    He’s an unknown 1st time HC coming in with a lot of hype, some warranted, some maybe exaggerated, who really knows until the regular season starts.

    Until then, I’ve been trying to get behind him and his staff, find some positives, and hope for the best like everyone else has to at this point.

    Go Phins!

  61. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    February 2, 2016 at 1:24 pm
    I didn’t see it at all but peeps here were reporting he was killing it and there are reports out there saying the same thing.
    He was pancaking people at the game. I saw another play that i think represents he can get his body moving and get to second level well. There was an early screen pass to Drake where Tretola got a good punch on the DT to get him manageable by the OC, he then pulled out to the right, sealed out the DE to free Drake into the flat and was running ahead of him and kicked out a DB down field as well. I thought he looked really good personally.

  62. Randy says:

    I don’t know what to tell ya. I go by what I see…doesn’t mean I’m right. Lol

    I don’t think any OL stood out, actually. Some did better than others, but Whitehair probably looked the best to my eyes.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s just funny how people see different things. LOL

      • dbolt48 says:

        Exactly….There’s pieces of Tretolas bowl performance that D mentions that I didn’t see. When I say that it’s not me saying it didn’t happen, but rather it’s something that didn’t standout to me, while seeing a DT looking moment stays fresh in my mind. Who knows, maybe that moment doesn’t happen if he has the extra girth on that he usually played at. Either way I just know that this team needs bigger stronger OGs to offset our OT’s and C who are more finesse players & don’t care how we get them as long as we do.

    • D says:

      There werent any that just blew me away, even Alexander. I still think Tretola, Whitehair, maybe even Westerman, could potentially replace Turner or Thomas and be an upgrade on their first year.

  63. Randy says:

    I didn’t watch the game, so I don’t know anything about that. I’m just going off the practices. No OL dominated consistently in practice. Tretola just didn’t stand out to me….not that he looked bad.

    • D says:

      No i pretty much agree with that, i dont think any of them looked so dominant that i feel they guaranteed studs out of the gate. I think Tretola has a lot of potential and already looks better Thomas/Turner. Id expect us to get a starter in FA though.

  64. Randy says:

    Drango is an intriguing player. He’s gonna have to refine his technique, but his back surgery history scares me a little…or maybe more than a little. Lol

  65. getterdone says:

    WOW, you guys are going on and on about Tretola, Kirkland, Spriggs, Martin…..
    I appreciate the scouting stuff, i do it too, It’s fun.
    But then I try to step back and realize it’s soooo early in this process.
    FA hasn’t even started nor has the start of the NFL calendar until March.

    Even the FO isn’t 100% sure what the needs will be until it begins to settle it’s own FA’s, Cap cuts, guys they’d like to sign in FA, etc etc, all before the draft starts.

    Not bashing anyone, just an observation. But at least we’re all becoming a lil more familiar with the draft class of 2106. A typical situation for all Phin fans annually…LMAO 😀

  66. getterdone says:

    …speaking of not even having a handle on FA yet before we worry about the draft:

    ESPN Dolphins reporter James Walker said there is a “40 percent” chance impending free agent Lamar Miller returns to Miami.
    That might be generous. The Dolphins may be able to convince Miller the new coaching staff will better utilize him after being woefully underused the last four seasons, but they would still need to come up with the money.

    I really hope they find a way to keep him. Restructuring Suh could save as much as $18M this season, and then we can restructure or cut Wake, Grimes, Misi, etc etc.

  67. Tim Knight says:

    Omar is teaching a journalism class called “Giggle like girls when you don’t know what you’re talking about”.

  68. getterdone says:

    Bolt, LOL, as a die hard Phin fan I feel like cryogenically frozen sperm waiting for a playoff run to hatch. 😛

  69. dbolt48 says:

    There’s someone at work now trying to close down their computer before the boss walks by😂

  70. getterdone says:

    Tim singlehandedly on a one man crusade to have all IT depts create a firewall for the Phins blog and secretly hoping that in that process that there is a glitch that freezes that photo on every monitor company wide.

  71. getterdone says:

    Shouts of OMG, is that a dick suit, can be heard from every cubicle across the office.

  72. Tim Knight says:

    Anyone know what the possible motive was for those two Virginia Tech students who stabbed a little girl to death? SMH

    • D says:

      I hear that the guy had some sort of intimate kind of relationship with her, may have been internet only, but he knew her and it was said he “used his relationship with her to lure her to him and then he abducted her” im not sure what his plan was to do after, if he intended to sexually molest her or whatever or if he just wanted to kill someone. People are fucking sicko’s these days man. The girl who was also involved, apparently helped with disposing of the body.

  73. Tim Knight says:

    GD, people have done a lot of sick shit when faith in God were at all time highs so I don’t think that’s it.

    My comment wasn’t meant to be what’s going on these days? It was WTF was the motive here?

    • dbolt48 says:

      In all honesty these sick individuals have no fear of the law anymore. Most can plead insanity and get away w/ this shit. Look at the Caey Anthony fiasco. The law protects criminals vs the victims anymore.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah I guess if you knew if you committed a heinous crime that you’d be mounted by a goat while while rabid weasels gnaw your junk off, you might say fuck that even as fucked up as you are. LOL

    • getterdone says:

      Tim, people proclaim to have ‘faith’ in God or believe in God. Even satan believes in God….lol
      Don’t just be hearers of the word, BE DOERS!

      So many people are messed up these days from a multitude of things besides not following God….look at the video games, the tv shows, movies, HELL even ISIS uses the internet to glamorize their evil.
      Evil is in now. Evil is the new cool….SMH!

      …and yes Bolt, these people that made the choices to allow themselves to become demented should be dealt with harshly. I’m not for letting them off the hook by claiming they’re crazy. Of course you’re crazy. Taking a life in a sinister way with no justifiable reason is a crazy act. You should did or be imprisoned for life.

      • Tim Knight says:

        What about non-believers who commit no such crimes yet those who profess to believe do commit them?

  74. Randy says:

    Too many people on the planet already. I say cull the herd…and start with people like that.

  75. Randy says:

    They’d have to catch me first! Lol

  76. Randy says:

    They’re gonna anally spray my taint? Do I have to pay for that?

  77. dbolt48 says:

    @Monster_Bet: #DeadlineDay and chill…

  78. Randy says:

    How about we draft Willie Beavers out of Western Michigan in the third? Could be a guy you play at guard and switch to LT in a few years. I gotta take a closer look.

    • Tim Knight says:

      There’s nothing like a Willie and Beavers.

    • getterdone says:

      I thought the same awhile back. We need to acquire a guy we can develop for Albert’s eventual replacement and to be a depth guy for the OT spots, as Fox & Thomas certainly are not that guy.

  79. getterdone says:

    Tim, good point. I never said non-believers aren’t capable of following the laws of man and can’t resist evil temptations. That’s a good thing too.

  80. Tim Knight says:

    Mike E and Brian,

    “Right-handed reliever Carlos Torres has cleared waivers and has decided to elect free agency rather than remain with the New York Mets.”

    I’m okay with that, with a lead he usually puts men on base right away and allows the game to get tied up right out of the gate.

  81. getterdone says:

    Meanwhile on a lighter note: Aggressive Attacking Offense with Gase

    “I would probably say, again, the attraction to this job was that I really enjoyed those years in Indy when we were aggressive,” Christensen said. “We were no-huddle and the players had fun. That’s a big thing, that the players enjoy the system. It’s hard to keep players interested and it keeps getting harder and harder to keep players interested.

    “I think the no-huddle and this style of play where you’re mixing it up and you have the ability to — I think Chicago last year led the league in time of possession — but you’re also taking shots and there’s kind of new stuff and you’re keeping them stimulated. I would say this is the way I like to play.”

    Gase and Christensen have something in common: They both coached future Hall of Fame quarterback Peyton Manning during his stops in Denver and Indianapolis, respectively. They believe an offense is most effective when a quarterback takes charge and is aggressive. The Dolphins the past couple of years under former offensive coordinator Bill Lazor often took the opposite approach, taking some freedoms and responsibilities off Ryan Tannehill’s plate.

    Can Tannehill handle the increased responsibilities entering his fifth season? That remains to be seen. But Gase and Christensen were hired, in part, to get the best out of Tannehill, and early indications are that will include more freedom in the offense.

    Gase is the NFL’s youngest head coach and will have a lot of new things come across his desk in his first season. That is where Christensen will help and work closely with Tannehill and the offense.

    “He was one of the main reasons I took this job and was interested in this job because I thought it was really kind of a support position to him,” Christensen said. “It’s an offense we ran for a long time in Indianapolis and then he took to Denver and I’m sure they tweaked and improved it a little bit.
    So it was interesting to me because of his youth and how sharp he is. He’s young and energetic and it gives me a chance to just kind of come in in a support position and kind of help in any way that I can, as he’s got a lot of new responsibilities.”

    • steveccnv says:

      The attacking no huddle is good, but it can’t be used all the time or your D will get killed. The cheats use it when their regular O isn’t working, I would use it more like that, situational.

      I’d love to see a passing game that opened up the running game, the way Peyton did it in Indy with E. James.

  82. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    February 2, 2016 at 3:32 pm
    Yeah I guess if you knew if you committed a heinous crime that you’d be mounted by a goat while while rabid weasels gnaw your junk off, you might say fuck that even as fucked up as you are. LOL
    I was thinking make punishments fit crimes.

    EX: Andrea Yates who drown all 5 of her children 1 by 1 in a bath tub. She should be drowned by being forcibly held under the water until dead, resuscitated drowend the same way again….rinse repeat, until on the 5th and final time she is not brought back.

    For rape, they could make a guy fuck a glory hole with a condom attached that is filled with pure capsaicin extract so that once the swelling starts he can choose if he wishes to rip his own dick off trying to get it back through the hole that is now too small or just sti there and suffer the excruciating pain of the capsaicin causing irreparable damage to his junk.

  83. getterdone says:

    4:20 post. 😀

  84. D says:

    Hypothetically, lets say a guy like Jaylon Smith or Myles Jack fall to the second round. Knowing they are injured and might be slow to see the field, do you draft them anyways, and then pick up a second guy like Deion Jones in the 3rd to be the contribute immediately guy, keep Misi, and then when the others recover replace Misi or do you draft a guy like Jones keep Misi and look to replace Misi next year. Again im only suggesting taking these guy IF they fall to the second round.

    • Tim Knight says:

      There are lots of ways to go about it like you just said. Jack is projected to participate at the combine, he should be done with rehab. Smith is the wildcard.

      • D says:

        Smith got hurt very last game, so its going to be a while for him. He tore two ligaments too.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah Smith’s recovery is 9-12 months so Sept. will be the earliest he can go and he will have missed the entire offseason and no guarantee he’ll be 100% all year.

    • D says:

      It seems like a way to get 1st rounder for a 2nd, but it also really complicates filling out the rest our needs in the draft. Its not like we have to fill every need but that might be more than we can afford to do with our picks, even though it might be a great opportunity.

  85. Randy says:

    It all depends on their medical reports. No way I risk a second round pick on a guy unless I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have long term health issues….even if he was projected as a 1st rounder. If the medical says the guy should make a full and complete recovery with no issues going forward, then I would look at him in the second if he’s there. But, if that’s the case, he probably won’t drop to the second anyway if he’s a first round talent.

    • D says:

      Well yeah i would expect they would do that, but even that prediction isnt 100% guaranteed either. It is likely that without it having had a chance to heal enough to make a certain determination some teams will back off and it is possible he will slide. I think Jack for sure remains a 1st rounder even if he doesnt participate in combine. I think he will be far enough along for team doctors to feel convinced if he will and is recovering properly. Smith i dont know about. Smith may well drop, i wouldnt at all be surprised if he falls to the last 1st at very minimum.

  86. D says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 14 (OAK): Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson (A)
    Round 2 Pick 11: Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson (A)
    Round 2 Pick 13 (OAK): Darian Thompson, FS, Boise State (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 10: Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 9: Christian Westerman, OG, Arizona State (B)
    Round 4 Pick 16 (OAK): Eric Striker, OLB/ILB, Oklahoma (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 8: Harlan Miller, CB, Southeastern Louisiana (B)
    Round 6 Pick 11: Brandon Doughty, QB, Western Kentucky (A-)
    Round 7 Pick 6: Matt Ioannidis, DT, Temple (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 10: Alex McCalister, DE/OLB, Florida (C-)
    One trade back but i missed so many of my comfort pick players i felt like i was flopping all over the place with my picks.

  87. Mike E. says:

    If we look at this draft in a vacuum, and forget about everything we’ve done wrong or right with certain picks, I think it’s important to get a great player with that first pick, even if he can’t play immediately. I know we want an immediate impact, but if we can get a true impact player, one that will play this year, but might start slowly due to injury, it’s worth it. I know that goes against what a lot of us feel, but I just want a great player here, however we can get him.

  88. getterdone says:

    The Dolphins plan to give second-year UDFA Zach Vigil first-team snaps at middle linebacker this offseason.
    The ‘Fins are moving on from Kelvin Sheppard, and liked what they saw from Vigil in 145 snaps this season. However, reporter Barry Jackson expects a “veteran pickup or high draft pick” to eventually get the starting job in the middle. Either way, Vigil’s spot on the 53-man roster looks like it will be secure for 2016.

  89. Randy says:

    Yeah, it all depends on the team. Some teams take those risks…some not so much. I’m always looking to find great value in picks…and that’s one way to find it. Bummer for Smith that his happened so late.

  90. Randy says:

    I think you always try to get an impact player in the top 10. There’s no reason we can’t find a really good player at #8. The question is how the team goes about addressing their many issues. That will tell us what they think of the team and their weaknesses….along with FA. Hopefully, we’ll get a couple pretty good players with our first two picks. I’ll be disappointed if we don’t.

    • Mike E. says:

      I agree Randy. I was just saying if say Myles Jack or Jaylon Smith is the guy they think is going to be an NFL great, then I’d be OK with taking the risk.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Jack will probably be okay for the combine. He’s been rehabbing for months. Smith could be unavailable or limited the entire 2016 season and even when he’s healthy there is no guarantee he’ll be as good as advertised.

  91. Tim Knight says:

    Add as many good players as you can and let them compete. Adding injured guys and guys who need to more time to develop just prolongs becoming a good team.

  92. Mike E. says:


    That’s the thing, you have to have realistic expectations. I expect we’ll be drafting more than 1 LB, so we’ll have guys that can play, we might just have to be a little patient if we go that route. Honestly, I don’t expect our team to be great right away anyway, although it’s possible.

  93. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, I posted this eatlier.

    Tim Knight says:
    February 2, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    Mike E and Brian,

    “Right-handed reliever Carlos Torres has cleared waivers and has decided to elect free agency rather than remain with the New York Mets.”

    I’m okay with that, with a lead he usually puts men on base right away and allows the game to get tied up right out of the gate.

    • Mike E. says:

      I wanted to reply, but I was busy. Torres ate a lot of innings last year, some good, some bad. I suspect that sometime during the year, Colon will be that guy, when Zach Wheeler is healthy enough to come back and enter the rotation again.

      • Mike E. says:

        He only pitched 57 innings. I kinda remember seeing him out there a lot. I think he may have been hurt at some point during the season, now that I think of it.

  94. Tim Knight says:

    GD, Hewitt and Vigil will be in the mix at LB for sure. They’re both good STs players too.

  95. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, Torres had a handful of solid performances, but many times he gave up late leads after one of our young guns left the game with like a 2-0 or 2-1 lead. He’d walk the first batter and start the rally right from the get go. He’s a guy who doesn’t really challenge hitters.

    • Mike E. says:

      Obviously not in our future plans. I know we have Brandon Nimmo, although he was just injured, a foot injury. We do have a lot of outfielders with Granderson, Cespedes, Conforto, Lagares and D’Aza

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah, I hadn’t heard Nimmo got hurt. I don’t think he was in the plans to start the season with the big club or at all this year though.

  96. Randy says:

    Gotcha. It all comes down to risk/reward and how much of a gambler tannebaum is.

    • Mike E. says:

      I think he’s one gambling mofo, if you see what he’s done in the past.

      • Tim Knight says:

        The big mistake Mr. T made with the Jets was signing Sanchez to an extension. The entire team thought they were close so it was somewhat understandable. Sanchez was their starting QB who as a rookie and 2nd year guy helped get them to two AFC Championships. Then signing Suh in Miami was a blockbuster signing but for a top DT. Other than that I’m not sure how much he he’s been a gambler.

  97. dbolt48 says:

    @HerringWSJ: Fan at MSG loudly yells “Tom Brady sucks!” during Celtics-Knicks nat’l anthem. Quite a few fans laughed.

  98. sb7mvp says:


  99. Mike E. says:


    Nah man, Nimmo is a young prospect. He’s probably a couple of years away anyway.

  100. rgs322 says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 15 (L.A.): Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson (A)
    Round 2 Pick 11: Jason Spriggs, OT, Indiana (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 12 (L.A.): Kentrell Brothers, ILB, Missouri (B)
    Round 3 Pick 10: Joshua Garnett, OG, Stanford (A)
    Round 3 Pick 13 (L.A.): Deion Jones, OLB, LSU (A)
    Round 4 Pick 9: Eric Murray, CB, Minnesota (C+)
    Round 5 Pick 8: Deiondre’ Hall, CB, Northern Iowa (B+)
    Round 6 Pick 11: Jacoby Brissett, QB, NC State (B+)
    Round 7 Pick 6: Matt Ioannidis, DT, Temple (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 10: Graham Glasgow, C, Michigan (C+)

    I doubt Spriggs last that long, but I wasn’t going to pass him up in the mock.

    • Tim Knight says:

      These trades to add extra high picks makes these exercise pretty unrealistic. Would any team give up a 2nd and a 3rd to move up 7 spots from 15 to 8? I doubt it.

  101. Mike E. says:

    LOL @ SB Cha-ching!

  102. Randy says:

    I really don’t know much of what tannebaum has done before with respect to injured players. I don’t see any great players in this draft anyway. Nobody worth taking a big risk on in my mind but who knows?

    • Mike E. says:

      Not so much injured players, but getting Suh in FA, moving up to draft Sanchez. If he wants a player, he’s gonna get ’em.

  103. Tim Knight says:

    rgs, do you think this QB class would warrant a team doing that?

    • rgs322 says:

      I don’t think there is one, but a team could think a guy like Wentz is worth it if he gets by Cleveland, Dallas, and SF.

  104. olddolphan says:

    GREAT NEWS ON Mrs. OD; –All your best wishes paid off as my lovely wife is now home safe and sound after this morning’s laser spine surgery!! –She WON’T be doing backward flips for a while BUT she is almost totally pain free after this extensive procedure. We REALLY APPRECIATE your kind thoughts!
    ARE we getting up a predictions contest for the Super Bowl?? –HOWIE, are you THERE?? –I’ll be rooting for the AFC representative (Denver) BUT, I believe the younger, stronger, faster Carolina Panthers will prevail 27-10.


    • Mike E. says:

      That’s great news OD, glad to hear!

      • olddolphan says:

        Thank you, Mike. Are you folks OK after that big storm about a week or so ago? –A coin dealer from New Jersey told me that there was significant damage in your state from the storm. Hope all is well up your way!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Great to hear, OD.

      Denver has the faster defense though. Their issue is they’re a bit undersized and Carolina’s offense is physical in the run game with Cam as well. DEN was tops against the run and #1 overall but that’s the matchup to watch – Denver’s rush DEF vs. Carolina’s run game.

  105. Mike E. says:


    Dominic Smith? He’s a highly rated prospect.

  106. Mike E. says:


    All is well in my area, just a ton of snow to shovel.

  107. Tim Knight says:

    OD, I really just want to see a competitive game. I’d like to see Carolina face some adversity as they’ve rolled most of the season and in the playoffs. I don’t want to see Peyton have a bad game. If the Broncos lose in an entertaining game it’s not a bad thing. Someone has to lose.

    As for the damage from the storm. Most of it was coastal due to the full moon and high tidal waves. It mixed with the snow storm and the tidal waves effected the coast line from NC to NY. It wasn’t Sandy bad but mixed with snow and slush and massive flooding it was pretty bad for some people and some who are still trying to recover from Sandy.

    Those of us more inland got hit with a ton of snow followed by warmer temps that has rapidly melted most of it.

    Punxsutawney Phil did not see his shadow – an early spring is his forecast! 🙂

  108. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, you know how you see Conforto displaying more power in the majors than he did in the minors, they say that’s not uncommon and Mattingly was the same way. Many baseball people say Conforto reminds them of a young Mattingly. 🙂

  109. wyoming85 says:

    Miami Dolphins Cheer ‏@MDCheer 7h7 hours ago
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  110. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, I agree on Conforto. He may hit more than 20 though. If you count his 30 ABs in the playoffs and WS where he hit 3 HRs, his 9 HRs in the RS with 174 ABs works out to 29 HRs in 500 ABs. He can drive the ball.

    I’d like to see .280+ 24 80+ type numbers this season. I’m hopeful he becomes a .300 power hitter.

  111. Rockphin says:


  112. olddolphan says:

    FLORIDA PANTHERS putting a 4-0 ass kicking on the team with the best record in the NHL, the Washington Capitols, in Washington late in the second period. Guess it’s time to pull out my toy rats from the 1996 season, eh? –Going to game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals in ’96 in the igloo was one of my greatest sports thrills ever!! –Florida’s John Van Biesbrooke stoned Jaromir Jagr on a clean break-away early in the game to set the stage for Florida’s improbable run to the Stanley Cup Finals. Little did I know that, 20 years later, Jagr would lead the Panthers to another memorable season!! At 43, Jagr is still an elite player in the National Hockey League!

  113. wyoming85 says:

    I like it Rock!
    Different but it works!!!!!!

  114. Rockphin says:

    I used Draftek’s big board and went BPA (Except Ramsey, who I want}

  115. olddolphan says:

    TIM; Punxsutawney Phil’s early spring prediction already has been proven right in Florida. –The high was 80 in Tampa today under mostly sunny skies!!! The only shovels I saw today were used to make sand castles at the beach!!

  116. getterdone says:

    Hey, Look at my draft picks.

  117. olddolphan says:

    OUT for tonight. Hope to talk to you folks tomorrow.

  118. Rockphin says:

    Well Ok, GD. I will wait for Rob to weigh in on that. LOL

  119. Rockphin says:

    She has no gag reflex at all.

  120. naplesfan2010 says:

    our pro bowlers looked good eh guys?

  121. naplesfan2010 says:

    concerning FFR … isn’t this tax season?

  122. The Flying Pig says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 8: Jalen Ramsey, CB/FS, Florida State (A)
    Round 2 Pick 11: Kentrell Brothers, ILB, Missouri (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 10: Carl Nassib, DE, Penn State (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 9: D.J. White, CB, Georgia Tech (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 8: Nila Kasitati, OG, Oklahoma (F)
    Round 6 Pick 11: Dadi Lhomme Nicolas, OLB, Virginia Tech (B)
    Round 7 Pick 6: Jake McGee, TE, Florida (C+)
    Round 7 Pick 10: Temarrick Hemingway, TE, South Carolina State (B)

  123. dbolt48 says:

    Fanspeak updated there Rankings & this my haul😂

    42: R2P11
    73: R3P10
    104: R4P9
    135: R5P8
    168: R6P11
    195: R7P6
    199: R7P10

  124. D says:

    I’ll have to do some more research into nicholas past. You could be right it could have been an isolated incident then it’s more forgivable.

    Noah Spence he reminds me of Jordan too much. Also with as many issues as he has had with Drugs miami is a bad place for him. It would be like having a pedophile run the largest daycare in the world

  125. Mike E. says:

    Rob – Where are you man???

    FFR – If you have a sec between clients, pop on and say hello. We’re concerned about you brother!

  126. Mike E. says:


    I took Harlan Miller in the 5th RD and FirstPick gave me an F. lol

  127. dbolt48 says:

    Interesting item to keep your eye on is Eric Galko from Optimum Scouting said something is going to be getting out about Tunsil being involved in the Nkemdiche hotel window incident.

    • D says:

      Tunsil’s past isnt squeaky clean. He has had some issues and actually started the year on a team imposed suspension. Robert Nkemdiche has been relatively clean most his career there, his brother hasnt. I dont know if he just sees the end of school and was liek fuck it im partying it up while i can kind of thing or what but i was pretty shocked to hear that report. I wouldnt be suprised though to find out Tunsil was at least partying with him.

  128. D says:

    dbolt48 says:
    February 3, 2016 at 9:10 am
    First pick really hasn’t updated their rankings too much. For the longest time they had guys kept in the system who had said the were going back to school a month before that.
    Seems they make adjustments late Tuesdays, or were during last few weeks of regular season. I know they haven’t adjusted yet for after senior bowl because Vernon butler is still there in the 4th round. I dont see him making it out of the first and definitely not out of the second.

  129. D says:

    I really want Nkemdiche because he is very versatile, we could use him on offense as a FB/TE, he could move inside and play DT but primarily id want him as a DE because he is just a beast on the field. I am though nervous about guys who want to party instead of taking care of business and keeping their nose clean at possibly the most important time of their lives. The distractions of South Beach parties is going to be a helluva thing for them to resist at a time they are showing that they cant even resist them in smaller settings.

  130. D says:

    Dadi Nicholas has a felony arrest for second degree grand larceny in 2012 when he was a freshman, and i couldnt find anything else on him outside of the punching the ref thing.

  131. The Flying Pig says:

    New blog up

  132. D says:

    Tunsil was suspended for benefits violation, nothing criminal. He has one arrest for simple assault, but this is the circumstance of it:

    Tunsil was arrested for an alleged incident that took place Thursday (June 25, 2015) night at the residence of Tunsil’s mother. Tunsil allegedly punched his stepfather after the stepfather allegedly shoved his mom.

    I dont know that i can blame him much for coming to the aid of his mother.

    I am not sure what involvement he had with Nkemdiche, but otherwise his history isnt as checkered as i thought. I had never heard why he was suspended or what the simple assault charge was for.

  133. wyoming85 says:

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