a boo boo booo boo bah
a weee weee weee wah
Oh hey there…just ignore the baby talk its not for you…Its for this little cutie
Adorable isn’t he!
These little Corozar Bay Moon Babies are the cuties things in the universe
a boo boo boo bah…(Wedge shakes a rattle)
Mine? No no. I picked this little guy up and about 3000 more as my latest weapon.
You see, the idea is you land on an unsuspecting planet you want to destroy and you give them the “please take my baby” bit. Who can resist? Look how adorable he is with his big sad eyes. Then you fly off and leave the baby behind.
Then after dark…
Its a whole different baby
On average A Corozar Bay Moon Baby can eat about 60 square miles, inhabited or not, in a 48 hour period. Pretty impressive! These little guys have a rabid appetite.
So you have to make a few landings on the planet of you want it devoured within a week.
These babies and there appetite remind me of the attacking linebacker I want the Dolphins to draft.
Deion Jones is one of those linebackers.
The LSU Linebacker was a force for the Tigers in 2015.
Its easy to miss talent like Jones on a talented team like LSU.
LSU puts so much talent in the NFL you should not overlook anyone on their roster.
The 6’1 222 pund linebacker might seem small to some, but that did not stop him from racking up 100 tackles, 13.5 for a loss.
That was his only year starting for LSU. Jones didn’t start until Kwon Alexander left for the NFL in 2015. Hey Kown Alexander? Didn’t I do a scouting report on him last year?
Yep! And ironically many scouts compare Jones to Alexander.
At the combine Jones caught the attention of the NFL by running a 4.59 40 yard dash.
He also had a 33 inch vertical jump and a 120 inch broad jump at the combine.
But it was his pro day that really set him apart and has him moving up[ the boards.
Deion Jones ran a blazing 4.38 40 yard dash at his pro day. WOW!
He also upped his vertical jump by 2 1/2 inches and did 18 reps on the bench press.
I know some Dolfans are looking forward to drafting Jones on day 3 of the draft.
But the secret is out.
I’m expecting Deion Jones to be drafted by the time round 3 is over.
So if the Dolphins want this attacking linebacker – they will have to make that move early.
Just like the people who adopt this adorable baby should get the fuck off their planet before it gets dark!
If Deion Jones was an alien weapon of destruction…
he would be the deadly Corozar Bay Moon Baby!
Lookout NFL!
You can watch Jones against Florida here:
Finsmob Unleashed 
but talking like it’s a forgone conclusion that we are a better team because we have those two guys is something that just boggles the mind.
What boggles my mind is how someone can assume the polar opposite (we “still” suck) for the EXACT same reason. We haven’t seen them on the field together, this year. So yeah you are right, those fans on here who prefer to go into the season with a positive outlook don’t know any more than you what is going to happen this season, but you are ASS U Ming as well.
Maxwell fits the press scheme Gase and VJ want to play on defense and Alonzo is our best LB if he’s 100%.
So let me ask y’all this? If RT makes great strides this season, we should be okay with Thomas, Turner, Douglas and whomever at guard because they’re fine because it’s all on RT. So we don’t need to draft OL, just focus on defense and more skill players. Fair enough?
We don’t need anyone on defense either, we have Suh. I don’t even know why we bother putting 10 other guys out there. lol
Valid point!
Douglas was a rookie and Turner a first year starter. I see guys all around the league get better every year why can’t they? Plus we got Bushrod too.
That is all our hopes as well. We are one of the youngest teams in the league, the YOUNGEST in the AFCE some of our guys WILL develop into good players. Like they always do. I just hope they are on OUR team when they do…..
son of a son of a shula says:
April 19, 2016 at 8:14 pm
Not true and I don’t have hate. I like Tannehill but he makes me fucking crazy, mad and incensed.
son,
ok, sorry my bad for saying hate but you still said what i meant. he makes you so crazy, mad and incensed sometimes you lost reality. you go off blaming him to no end and sometimes just not rationale about it. i dont see anyone going off defending him to the extent the haters go off blaming him.
You guys are rich. LOL over 4000 yards passing, double TD’s to Ints over 61% completions, in the top of the league in deep pass completion and he “shit the bed”
Here comes the obligatory 6-10 comment, and that stats don’t tell the story. We have some Trained Eyes on here like Omar….
And only 1, just one for the entire season, 4th qtr TD pass when we were within 7 points. Along with only 1 meaningful 4th qtr FG attempt for the year.
and a losing record HC who got fired and an OC who got fired and it was his first ever attempt to be a OC and a rookie QB coach who was a fired OC’s son and a DC who got fired while transforming Ndamukong fucking suh into ordinary, so no help from that side of the ball either.
OH and the replacement HC was a very young TE coach who had only ever worked in Miami for two fired HCs.
No help there for RT.
Last Two Minutes of Half 95 56 58.9 749 7.9 47 7 4 36 37.9 13 14 91.1
http://www.nfl.com/player/ryantannehill/2532956/situationalstats
He had 8 4th quarter TD’s last year
He had a 91.1 rating in the last 2 mins of a half last year.
Maybe the fact that Miller only ran for 31 attempts in the fourth quarter all YEAR (less than two per game!) and we had goofball “I’m smarter than the other coaches, “I will call a reverse followed by a bubble screen again, they won’t expect that!” Lazor calling plays might have had something to do with it?
son of a son of a shula says:
April 19, 2016 at 8:29 pm
And only 1, just one for the entire season, 4th qtr TD pass when we were within 7 points. Along with only 1 meaningful 4th qtr FG attempt for the year.
well hell. i didnt know that. maybe you are right. he sucks. how dare him and him alone not score more 4th qtr td’s. i mean you see brady do it all the time. amazing how he can block the d line, snap the ball to himself then throw it down field and run and catch it and score. sometimes it is just unfair how he alone can beat 11 guys
Let’s ignore a historically terrible OL for a minute. LOL yeah right.
RT last year overcame a losing record HC who got fired and an OC who got fired and it was his first ever attempt to be a OC and a rookie QB coach who was a fired OC’s son and a DC who got fired while transforming Ndamukong fucking suh into ordinary, so no help from that side of the ball either.
OH and the replacement HC was a very young TE coach who had only ever worked in Miami for two fired HCs.
No help there for RT.
Who else had to lead an NFL team with no coaching staff above a raw green position coach?
LOL, we all saw the jail breaks too many times in our blocking schemes. That has to end for anything to move forward. It happened to the RBs too. You can’t run everything out of shogun. It puts the OL on their heels from the get go and gives the defense a definitive target. It’s a bad philosophy unless you’re lighting up the scoreboard with it.
naples and rock,
again like i said. when some are so emotionally involved with the dislike facts dont matter. all that matters is they cant stand the player. they arent making a decision based on their head they are making it based on emotion.
and anyone that has every dealt with a woman knows you just cant argue rationally with one who makes decisions based on emotion.
Alright, I spent the last hour reading the older comments, now I have caught up to the present and need to go. LOL Nogtih all!
You guys can’t resist it. You fucking live for it and yearn for it. Lying in wait for the sucker to say something Tannehill so you can turn on the machine. Y’all know how I feel so I made a throw away statement earlier and here we are.
I hope we draft Cook and let the chips fall where they may. Have fun with that. You fucking vultures you fucking Tanne-crack smokers
Cook is a hack. He won’t have more than a decent NFL back-up career.
for the record,
I think we beat SF and the Browns and some other lucky “on any Sunday” game and go 3-14.
Maybe we tie Tennessee.
Lamar Miller. 1.93 carries per game average in the forth quarter last year.
If they trade up for Zeke and that stat holds true then I quit football.
And there is the irrational emotional explosion to prove Son is actually Daughter of a daughter of a daughter of shula!
(actually he is a really cool guy in person, just has irrational Tanny hate. )
lmfao. ok so there you have it. basically son says he can make any comment he wants and just dont respond to him cause it may hurt his feelings.
i think suh is the biggest FA bust in the history of the nfl. he is maybe the 4th best d linemen on the fins. i would spend every draft pick on the d line to replace that fraud of a player.
now no one respond to my outrageous comment with facts or i may get my feelings hurt.
Emmitt Smith rarely completed a forward pass, so he should not be in the HOF cuz he is just not versatile.
LOL Ok I’m really going now. Nogtih all
Rockphin says:
April 19, 2016 at 8:55 pm
(actually he is a really cool guy in person, just has irrational Tanny hate. )
pretty much what i have been saying. his hate even gets him to make troll like comments (I hope we draft Cook and let the chips fall where they may.) no way in hell anyone thinks that is the solution but let me just say this cause i am so blinded by emotion
naplesfan2010 says:
April 19, 2016 at 8:55 pm
Cook is a hack. He won’t have more than a decent NFL back-up career.
that doesnt matter. all that matters is the pure dislike of tanny and not caring about anything else but replacing him. even to the sense of being irrational
I would love to draft Zeke E, but I would settle for Jackson III.
If we don’t get Zeke, I want to draft TWO RBs. It is our greatest position of need. There are no good options for us already in the NFL unless we can maybe get a semi-healthy yr out of Arian.
There are a bunch of excellent options in this draft class.
naples,
next year’s schedule looks very daunting. I think even tannenbaum is looking to 2017 or bust. That’s how the salary cap situation is lining up. Big spending in 2017
Almost all the moves they made sort of scream 2017. But 2016 is a valuable season to evaluate the coaches and build
You can’t make a contender in one offseason
the moves we make this offseason matter – even if we are able to make bigger bolder moves in 2017
We can’t afford to say – its 2017, now lets makeover the team again
we have to make moves now
and build on them in 2017
and in 2018 and so on and so on
My fave combo is Collins and Drake, but I would also enjoy Prosise and Marshall.
Glad I missed the fun. LOL @ you guys!
naplesfan2010 says:
April 19, 2016 at 9:05 pm
If we don’t get Zeke, I want to draft TWO RBs.
thats a good idea and:
2 def ends
2 lbs
2 d backs
2 o linemen
2 qb’s
2 wr’s
and not sure if you can draft coaches or not but what the hell
2 coordinators
and just for OD
2 owners
Maybe we should wait for the 53 man roster in September. Just saying. 🙂
I see since I left the conversation went south in Tannehill debate again……lol
What happened to debate about quality Linebackers to play behind Suh and our new Wide 9
Sorry guys but I completely agree with what Prof Lou said – if we don’t improve our LB group we are going to get killed in the Wide 9
We need guys who are going to fill the gaps our DL leaves open
And for the record I do think CB, OL, DE and RB are needs as well
but if our LBs come up short next year, everything is lost
so that group needs a dramatic makeover from 2015
I don’t think adding Kiko Alonso is enough by itself
get me some attacking LBs
SOLB – Misi/Hewitt
MLB – Alonso/Vigil
WOLB – Jenkins/Hull
Draft a LB to join the mix. I bet Alonso and Jenkins/Hewitt are the two nickel LBs most of the time. 🙂
I can’t imagine building g a dominant defense with that depth chart at LB
We need at least 1 LB to push to start
we really need to find 2 LB’s. Even if Alonso is the answer at one of the positions, Misi has been on life support forever and pretty much everything else we’ve got there is rotational guys with Vigil, Hull and Hewitt. We need to get some really good players at the linebacker position.
we played with our DE’s in the 9 a good portion of the time on run downs last season and it’s one of the reasons why teams like the Jets gashed us. Our LB was horrible against the run in those situations and it’s the usual suspects. How do you get better at a position if you’re just going to run with the same people all the time? You can’t. When you’re getting killed in the run game and a good part of the reason is because of the play of your LB’s you need to upgrade. Our LB’s have been shit for a LONG time.
Naples
Are you not a fan of Ajayi
I tend to think we need 1 RB to split carries with Ajayi
not 2
if we drafted Elliot, I tend to think Ajayi plays a really reduced role
but other than that – I see the RB we draft (hopefully we draft 1) splitting carries with Ajayi and probably starting the season as the #2 behind Ajayi
2 RBs is a little too much for me
especially since I want to draft a buch of defensive players too…..lol
I prefer Dixon but I’d also be very happy with either Booker or Collins. I would hope we’d be able to do a deal w/Philly that would net us Matthews relatively cheap; especially if they end up drafting Elliot with their (our) #8 pick.
If we trade up for Elliot it is pure BPA.
If we trade up for Elliot it’s pure stupidity. If the team were a few players away from being extremely competitive and one of those players happened to be a running back then it’s a different story. But, just like signing Suh did shit for the success of the team, drafting Elliot isn’t going to make a huge difference either.
The big thing was we got Maxwell and Alonso in the trade from Philly and it didn’t cost us anything. It did cost us something because it cost us draft position. We probably don’t even have a shot at Lawson now because he may even go top ten. Then, to trade back up and lose draft picks just to get a rb is complete and total stupidity. Unlike Miller, Elliot can’t create anything on his own. The run Miller had against the Giants is a perfect example. Elliot can run with some power but most of his best runs came because he had huge holes in the line where they needed to be.
No way I trade up to get him. If anything, I trade up to get Lawson or Jack before Elliot
Okay. You are one person with one view point. Like the rest of us.
We’re a week a way. 🙂
defense win championships. you don’t pass up the opportunity to draft a top defensive player to draft a running back when you can get a rb later in the draft who can split carries with Ajayi and give you a very effective running game. Offensive line still needs to execute it’s blocks and when OSU’s blew holes you drive a Mack truck thru for Elliot he took advantage of it but he still had plenty of runs for little or no gain.
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Don’t be shocked if Ogbah slides all the way into the third round. Three teams have confirmed that possibility to me.
I’m gonna slap Tannenbaum in the face with the slimy, smelly old rubber dildo under ffr’s couch if we trade back up in this draft to take a RB. That right there would be enough for me to fire his ass on the spot after trading with Philly and taking two questionable players they were gonna dump anyway AND giving them our top 10 pick….especially in a draft where all the value is in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. And, if it’s no big deal to drop from 8 to 13 in the first place(yeah right)…why the hell would you give up picks to move back up again? Please God let them not be that stupid.
This LB class is shit. I just read that BR/report and was appalled by the quality available. If Zeke is there @13 we will take him for sure, if not Conklin will be the pick. I have read all your choices and have come to the conclusion that, like me you are all full of shit and are guessing like I am.
Good morning Lee ( or rather good evening depending on which side of this greeting you are on)
getterdone says:
April 19, 2016 at 7:01 pm
Lest you not forget, Swept by the Bravos!
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Tim Knight says:
April 19, 2016 at 7:04 pm
It’s a long season.
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And it can only get worse… Looks like I can stop watching by May this season
8 more days until we can stop arguing about what we need and who to draft and then we can start arguing about what we still need and who we drafted.
No matter what Hulk always be angry!
420 day.
RANDY’s comments start with “I’m gonna slap Tannenbaum right in the face with an old, slimy, smelly, rubber dildo” and he ends with “please god let them not be that stupid.”
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Well, Randy, GET READY because T-Baum and the rest of “THE DOOFUS BRIGADE” are, indeed, THAT STUPID!!!! STEVE ROSS’s tenure as owner has been marked by one poor decision after another!! – – And T-Baum’s last 3 seasons as an NFL executive have been among the worst in recent NFL history!! – – While some on this board think Miami’s current leadership is capable of making excellent choices, my opinion is that the 2016 season likely will be YET ANOTHER FAILED SEASON IN A LONG LIST OF FAILED SEASONS!! Will there be a couple of nice draft picks by Miami? Probably “yes.” Will there be ENOUGH nice draft picks to lift the Dolphins into the playoffs and make them legitimate Super Bowl contenders?? – – – NOT A CHANCE!!!!!!!
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THIS FRANCHISE IS DOOMED TO FAILURE until Ross, T-Baum, and the rest of the front office is replaced by an entirely new regime with new people from top to bottom. And please, NO MORE NEW YORK REAL ESTATE GUYS at the top of this franchise!! Yes, I know, Ross is coming up on 76 and looks 90. He has already chosen his heir apparent — a younger version of himself!! Well Steve Ross may think he and his fellow real estate tycoons who live in New York are best able to run a south Florida franchise. I say “LOOK AT HIS RECORD!!”–no way!
Anyone here have ESPN insider? If so, could you let me know. Appreciate it!
What are you looking for?
I want Kiper and McShay’s picks for the Dolphins
Well he has Elliot falling out of the 1st round but we might trade up for him. LOL
Anyone else see Ross in the background when Trump was delivering his victory speech last night? As if I needed another reason to hate Ross
Everyone has a right to their political views. Think about how many celebrities will support the witch.
Ross was on the stage with Trump? Might be just business. They are both NY real estate folks.
Heard a funny story yesterday from my cousin. Her brother was a brilliant guy (1580 on this SATS) who made a buttload by pretty much reinventing the reinsurance industry. Sadly he passed away about ten years ago from AIDs. Yeah he was gay but he was one that took no shiiiiot.
He’s president of the board of the highest end charity in Telluride (as much a ski playground for the rich as Aspen). Trump wants to get on the board to build his position in the community.
He calls up my cousin and says, “How much do I have to pay to get on the board.” (Keep in mind even if that happens you don’t do it that way).
They went back and forth with Trump pressing for a price, and finally my cous goes, “$250,000.”
Trump asks why the price is so much higher than what he used to paying for such.
The answer: “Well that’s the price for someone as obnoxious as you.”
LOL
That’s to all the Trump bashers who’ll blindly follow anything but….
That’s overall though.
Mine was just a glimpse into one thing that never hit the news.
And I know what my cousin was like. Gave 98% of his money to charity btw, but then he didn’t have kids.
I get that….lol
right
being critical of Trump is blindly following
so Kiper goes from hyping the big trade up by Miami to take Elliot to him now saying Elliot will drop to the Cowboys in the 2nd rd.
Gotta love this time of year. LOL
Reading where the Eagles want to trade up further to the #2 Browns pick with another boatload of overcompensation.
adam schefler was on espn this morning talking about it
he says the browns are sitting on the offer right now
eagles not offering more at this time
he didn’t say what the offer was
but I bet its just a 2nd round pick, maybe a little more
It was reported Tuesday that the two teams had agreed to the framework of a trade, which would net the Browns the No. 8 overall pick, two 2016 third-rounders, and the Eagles’ first- and third-round picks in 2017 in exchange for the No. 2 overall selection. But, according to Schefter, the price to move up from 8 to 2 wouldn’t be nearly that high.
The Eagles don’t have a 2nd rd pick. There is also a 1,200 point difference between the 2nd and 8th pick. It’s gonna take some picks from next year or players to move up to #2.
Marvez is saying 1st and 3rd this yr and next
Who’s running that Brown’s draft, Kevin Costner?
LOL @ GD and Piggy on Trump
Hey, I had to squeeze that funny meme in somewhere…lol
I can visualize steam coming from Piggy’s nostrils when you champion Trump. LOL
IMO its the slow and inevitable realization he will get the nomination. There have been staunch republicans you have really opposed Trump as things have gone along that are coming around and endorsing him because its better to unify the party than divide it. Ross may have always supported him or he may have just now flipped over. I really dont know. Still its outside the scrutiny of him as an owner or that his political affiliations actually affect his business judgement.
My personal feelings is i just cant find it in myself to support someone that on my wn principals i do not agree with, so for this reason i will not support him as the nominee in general election. It may be that i will find a independent i actually like and will vote that way, but it may also be just as likely i will abstain from voting since this year offers no one i can feel good about supporting. Its by far the worst selection of presidential candidates i have ever seen.
D — it ain’t over yet. But am with you on the choice if he runs. And I voted for Reagan first time around and every GOP since. Used to be a no-brainer.
Mike, here’s Kiper’s top 3 for us.
Here were Kiper’s “Grade A” selections for the Miami Dolphins:
Round 1 (No. 13): Ohio State LB Darron Lee
Round 2 (No. 42): Baylor CB Xavien Howard
Round 3 (No. 73): Cal WR Kenny Lawler
He must teach at a SPED school for those to be grade A,
Who does McShay like for Miami? Let’s examine.
Round 1 (No. 13): Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
Round 2 (No. 42): Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
Round 3 (No. 73): Kenneth Dixon, RB, Louisiana Tech
This makes waaaay more sense than Kiper’s…WTF was that? lol smh
I cant see Eagles, with Bradford on their roster, feeling motivated to give up that much to move up and draft a QB. This has to be pre-draft bullshit to drive the demand to move up higher. It would be more likely the 49’ers would make a all out pitch to move to two than the Eagles, and even they arent so desperate to make that move they should give up their future to get Goff. It makes a little more sense but its all pretty damn stupid. To me, despite the MASSIVE distance between the picks, Denver is probably a better candidate, because they can afford to, with their lack of strong team needs, sacrifice a bunch of picks to move up and they would stand the most to gain from it since they are a more complete team and just needing an adequate QB to let them win by way of a strong defense again this year.
I don’t see Denver moving that far from 31 > 2. I see them as possibly moving up mid round for Lynch
Tim Knight says:
April 20, 2016 at 11:24 am
I can visualize steam coming from Piggy’s nostrils when you champion Trump. LOL
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Tim, I’m more championing for someone, anyone, that can be the babyruth bar in the fancy cushy swimming pool full of a malfeasance plutocracy.
I loved Ron Paul as being that guy last couple of ‘selections’. But he was easily swatted aside by their prodigious power.
Trump is the only one I’ve ever seen that I can remember that seems capable of withstanding the cabal’s onslaught of subterfuge.
I know where you stand.
Yes, I stand for real change. Even if it’s wrong & Trump is a liar.
But we as a nation can’t keep going down this disastrous path with the same lying insider power structure.
Trump has them freaked out & they’re doing cartwheels for a reason. He’s an unwelcomed guest to their lil tight knit club that has sustained them & their families for several decades.
Time to crash their party!!!
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Tim Knight says:
April 20, 2016 at 11:24 am
I can visualize steam coming from Piggy’s nostrils when you champion Trump. LOL
nothing gets the blog more steamed then the T’s…..tanny or trump
LOL, good point….guess we could add Thomas in there too, Dallas & Daniel. BTW, also Tbomb & doesn’t Ross have a T in there somewhere? lol 😉
LOL
We can refer to it as the Titties. LOL
Lawson is probably my fav option at #13 even though Elliot is my fav player in the +7 range. I think we all are too focused on a few certain players. Having good coaching and the right scheme seems so much more important. Only one of the Legion of Boom was a high pick(M13 boy). So, somehow, they were able to build their backfield with late talent. In fact, Seattle’s drafts the past 6-7 years have been pretty awful outside the Wilson one.
Great points. I have been harping on coaching, scheme, game planning, play design, & play calling for some time.
Hope this Gase regime can pull 53 guys together on Sunday’s!
It’s amazing how ‘poorly’ Seattle has drafted to be so good. If you get the right guys, it really doesn’t matter from where you get them. Some of the best players for Seattle the past few years have been FAs. It’s not and never has been all about the draft. It can’t be. The draft is a luckfest.
getter,
i think tbaum is more just a OD hatred thing. most dont get a steamed up with him as they do tannytrump
I’m on the fence with Tbomb, hence why I keep referring to him that way.
I hope he’s learned from mistakes of the past. But he does worry me since he got fired by the jests after blowing 3 of his final 4 first round draft picks on Mark Sanchez, Kyle Wilson & Quinton Coples.
Matt Miller @nfldraftscout 40m40 minutes ago
RE: William Jackson III (CB-Houston)…had a scout compare him to Malcolm Butler. Said he wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the 2nd CB drafted
I think he’s gained traction over Alexander. I like Artie Burns as the 2nd or 3rd best. I see Alexander sliding some.
New Age, I’ve been saying something similar on how to build a team. At the end of the day it’s all about what your 53 man looks like, not how you got there.
Yep, too much evidence to think otherwise. I see teams like Seattle and NE get the most out of later picks. I see them screw up the draft a lot. You need a better system than the other guy. You need to hit on a few top players from somewhere. That’s it. The blueprint is there. We just need our guys to stay healthy, or have better backups this year. The gameplan has to be better than the other team.
Newage, you’re correct. We all hate the pompous Pete Carroll, like a Trump. But he’s assembled quite good coaching staffs over the years in Seattle & seems to find a way to get it done.
getterdone says:
April 20, 2016 at 12:14 pm
I don’t see Denver moving that far from 31 > 2. I see them as possibly moving up mid round for Lynch
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GD i doubt it as well, but if they are looking for a guy with franchise potential, if they are looking for getting that guy THIS year, then they need to shoot for 1 or 2, the rest are just too far off right now and thats including Lynch, who may well develop into the best of the bunch, but right now he is no where near as NFL ready.
Conner Cook is more NFL ready than Lynch, he just doesnt have the ceiling that Lynch has.
Also on the subject of Cook, i completely wouldnt put it out of possibilities that he could be our selecting in the 2nd. This isnt trying to rattle the cages of you Tannyites, but im pretty sure he was the interview they had at combine they seemed to be so impressed with. I think ill be disappointed if i hear his name called day 2 for us, but i dont at all think ill be shocked.
So what you’re saying is he’ll always be a cook and never a chef? 😉
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Tim Knight says:
April 20, 2016 at 1:34 pm
So what you’re saying is he’ll always be a cook and never a chef?😉
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Meh, maybe a Grillardin, possibly even a Saucier, definately no head or sous chef
With Moore resigned to a 2yr deal & most of the $3.5M being guaranteed, than I don’t see why the Phins would want to draft a QB until day 3 or beyond.
I’d like to get Jeff Driskel with a 6th or one of the 7th round picks, but I fear he’ll go a lil sooner. The need for big & strong armed QB’s is too strong around the league with so many failures everywhere.
Ditto!
Wow the Eagles and Browns make a deal for the #2.
Told ya it was coming.
I didn’t doubt it. I heard the same thing.
That just happened?….wow talk about the eagles going from frying pan to fire with the FO decisions…really stupid IMO.
For us i rank them this way.
Ramsey ( i think he would could be a CB for us)
Hargreaves… you dont even know how hard it was for me to rank Ramsey above him lol
The Jackson 5 minus 2, or 5/2+1/2 whichever you please.
Burnsed Apples….pretty much even rating.
Eagles acquired the No. 2 overall pick in the 2016 draft and a 2017 fourth-round pick from the Browns in exchange for the Nos. 8, 77, and 100 overall picks in the 2016 draft, a 2017 first-round pick, and a 2018 second-round pick.
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Idiots thinking Wentz or Goff is the next superbowl type QB….smh!
Its a really dumb move with Bradford there for them to have done that. They could have just as easily took someone later as a potential prospect and then gone big the next year if they got desperate.
So what all did the Eagles give up…surely it wasn’t just the #8 pick.
Its possible Driskell slips to UDFA, though i would kind of doubt it. His last year stats alone show him to be capable. His big thing is he gets rattled really easy.
Man that shit is fucking retarded, i mean the Rams did set the market on picks with their trade so it would have been hard for them to got it for much less.
Still very very retarded. Browns could now make it 3 picks in the top 10 for QB’s….keep on falling Mr. Hargreaves
LOL
Wow, great deal for the Browns.
D,
I don’t think you can trust Bradford to even make it through a whole season let alone be the sort of QB who takes you on a deep playoff run. This, again, shows you what teams are willing to do to try to draft a “franchise” QB….even when there’s no guarantee they will be. Qb’s are simply that highly regarded because of their impact on a team. Unless they’re gonna try to trade out of that spot again…I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they draft a QB.
Why would they trade out of that spot after just giving their franchise away?
This has got to make the naysayers of the trade we did with Philly feel better now, seeing how stupid their FO is in letting productive veterans go & then giving up their future draft picks thru 2018 for a Qb that will likely be dumped by them in 4yrs….lol
gdp
Why are you so down on Wentz and Goff? Both of them are much more highly regarded and better prospects than Tanny was coming out of college. Why are you so sure neither of them will amount to much?
No they’re not. LOL
Comical isn’t it? lol
Say’s who? I just don’t see either as being the type of QB that you trade the farm for. They are not Luck, they are more Andy Dalton like…IMO.
Randy says:
April 20, 2016 at 2:03 pm
D,
I don’t think you can trust Bradford to even make it through a whole season let alone be the sort of QB who takes you on a deep playoff run. This, again, shows you what teams are willing to do to try to draft a “franchise” QB….even when there’s no guarantee they will be. Qb’s are simply that highly regarded because of their impact on a team. Unless they’re gonna try to trade out of that spot again…I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they draft a QB.
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yeah but with a guy who MAY be healthy, whether or not you can expect it to last. Having an understudy who can get you through would be better than sacrificing that much with a new coach. It has to be that the GM is on a last leg and he had to go bold or go home, only way to explain that because thats a horrible deal especially for second place. Think how much thats going to handicap the Eagles this year. no second round pick and now no third round pick, go from 1st to 4th round, and next year you give up your first, and the next year your second. Thats some serious handicapping on a first year coach with 3 years to produce.
Randy can’t even discuss a trade between other teams without taking a shot at Tennehill. LOL
Comical isn’t it? lol
for Randy;
Tannehill wouldn’t be offended if Dolphins draft a QB
By Conor Orr
Around The NFL Writer
Don’t worry, Dolphins. Ryan Tannehill is cool with you guys drafting another quarterback.
“No, I wouldn’t be offended at all,” Tannehill said, via the Miami Herald. “That’s the nature of the business. If you’re not doing the job good enough then they’re looking to replace you. And you want to have depth. I love the guys in the room … I’m excited about the room we have and if we add somebody else, I’ll be open arms and welcome him in. We’re just there to push each other. Push each to be better and enjoy the whole process.”
Really? Lots of folks felt Tanny was, at best, the 3rd QB prospect in that draft and many folks felt he wasn’t a 1st round pick because he was so inexperienced. Wentz and Goff are almost universally thought to be the top two QBs in this draft and top 5 picks…probably picks 1 and 2. You guys are being ridiculous if you think Tanny was thought to be a better prospect when he was drafted.
Yes, Wentz & Goff are considered to be the top 2 QB’s in ‘THIS’ class of underwhelming QB prospects. That’s why these big trades by the Rams & the Eagles goes to show how insanely desperate they are….smh.
Glad I’m not a fan or either team…lol. I bet their fan blogs are both going, WTF?!?!?!
Some folks liked him better than RGIII too. But why is this trade about Tannehill? LOL
Look at how you turned this into another Tanny bashing session when it has nothing to do with him. Amazing! You’ve topped yourself. LMAO!!!!
Back then I was one of the rare guys that was calling for Tannehill over RG3. Guess I got lucky eh….
BTW, the Eagles are said to be enamoured with Wentz, which dispels the ongoing rumor that I disputed too, with everyone saying the Rams would take Wentz @ #1. If they do, then the Eagles just got bird poo in their faces….or would it be ram poo?
I’m sure the eagles knew exactly who the rams are selecting when they made the trade
So it probably won’t blow up
I don’t know which order it will be
but it doesn’t matter
we know the first 2 picks will be Wentz and Goff
gdp
The reports are that both the Rams and the Eagles like both QBs and would be happy with either. Not sure how anything done up to this point indicates what either team will or won’t do.
LMAO, c’mon….you don’t trade the farm away and go gee, I’ll take either guy, they are both soo sweet & soo much what we want in a QB….smh!
gdp
I could care less if Tanny is offended by what the team does in the draft. He hasn’t earned the right to be offended by anything. Lol
Ya misread. He said he’s not offended. In other words, bring it on. Welcomes the competition.
OHHHHHH i just got it…..the Eagles FO was HIGH….its 4/20 day….no wonder!
LMAO!!!
Tim,
Again, you missed the whole point of my post because of your Tanny tunnel vision. gdp keeps making comments about Goff and Wentz and how he is underwhelmed by them. My question to him is how he came to that conclusion because he loves Tanny, and Tanny wasn’t regarded as nearly the high end prospect Goff and Wentz are. It had nothing to do with basing Tannehill, but, of course, you and your Tanny love saw it that way. Lol
I didn’t miss anything and don’t turn this around. Why can’t this trade be discussed without mentioning Tannehill? LOL
Wentz and Goff are not considered to be special by anyone but it’s a QB starved league.
getterdone says:
April 20, 2016 at 2:20 pm
LMAO, c’mon….you don’t trade the farm away and go gee, I’ll take either guy, they are both soo sweet & soo much what we want in a QB….smh!
Why not if you feel both guys are good?
gdp
I think it shows how teams overdraft QBs all the time. The draft Tanny was in wasn’t exactly a great draft class for QBs either. This year just has no “top dog” type of guy.
Every time I look for draft grades for Goff, Wentz and Tanny I get the NFL.com combine page
an it has
Wentz 6.53
Goff 6.51
Tannehill 84.00
LOL
Don’t get carried away with that though
obviously the grading system changed
Tannehill at the time was deemed an immediate starter with pro bowl potential
and the 6 grades I read also indicate pro bowl potential but I don’t think they said immediate starter
I don’t think it matters
If you see your guys and you like your guy – YOU STRIKE
QBs have to be treated differently than any other position
some people thought 12 was early for Tanny – but who cares
if that’s your guy, then that’s your guy
You know your guy won’t be in the 2nd round or possibly after a trade down
So if you like a QB you have to strike
It also particularly easy for scouts to miss on QBs
easier than most positions IMO
Andrew Luck and John Elway were uniquely embraced by all
but think about guys like Tom Brady or Ryan Leif
that position is full of misses
you got to almost flat out ignore grades
Tim: Wow the Eagles traded for the #2.
GD: I wouldn’t have done that for either of these two QBs.
Randy: They’re better than Tannehill.
LOL
Tim,
I’m not turning anything around. You made it a Tanny thing. I was asking gdp…not you….how he could be so high on Tanny but not on Goff and Wentz when they are seen as…at least…as highly touted QBs…and seen by most as better prospects. Nobody was gonna draft Tanny at 1 or 2. It was about his opinion on those two guys…not Tanny. You made it a Tanny thing.
Wow!!! You must be really taking advantage of 4/20 today. Yeah it was me that made it about Tanny. LMAO!!!
You’re still doing it. LOL
The Eagles GM is on the radio saying they’re good with either QB. He’s making ice cream flavor comparisons and pepperoni pizza vs. sausage. LOL
OMG, that is sick. Makes Ireland look like Ted Thompson.
Yeah he’s going to get ripped for awhile until whoever his QB is pans out for him.
Brownies & 69’ers each have 12 picks in next weeks draft…wow.
probably going to select all the players we want right before we were set to select them
Prepare your pencils to stick in your eyes Dolfans
its going to be bloody
Titans have 8 and 6 of them in the first 3 rounds.
NFL Network’s Mike Mayock on Ryan Tannehill after the QB’s Pro Day: Cleveland has to take him at No. 4 | cleveland.com
“He’s very raw,” said Mayock. “He had only 19 starts in college. However, because the NFL is so overheated right now when it comes to finding franchise quarterbacks, I think the kid is probably going to go higher than he should.”
2012 NFL Draft Grades – Bleacher Report
Other than that reach for Ryan Tannehill in Round 1, Miami did a really good job of managing this draft.
AFC East draft grades: Patriots fortify D; Jets gamble on athletes – NFL.com
Questionable pick: Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M (Round 1, 8). How long will it take Tannehill to develop into a productive NFL starter? That answer could determine the fate of Ireland and others in Miami.
In NFL draft, Tannehill is the third man – NY Daily News
All this for a quarterback whose 13-7 career record and 42-21 TD/INT ratio pale in comparison to the exploits of the pro-ready Luck and Heisman winner RGIII. But with many teams still searching for franchise QBs, teams are prone to reach for signal-callers, as the Raiders did when they drafted Jamarcus Russell first overall in 2007.
2012 NFL Draft Busts: Ryan Tannehill and Dontari Poe – Athlon Sports
Needless to say, with only 19 starts under his belt, a 12-7 record as a starter and 21 career interceptions, Tannehill is a total project. Luck and Griffin III are as sure-fire as quarterback prospects get and the drop-off to the converted wide receiver is severe.
Ryan Tannehill Wife: Dolphins’ Rookie Already Winning with Draft-Day Stunner | Bleacher Report
There are many analysts who consider the Dolphins’ selection of the QB at No. 8 as a huge reach.
2012 AFC draft grades: Risky Dolphins, O-line needy Steelers earn high marks – Yahoo Sports
There is no questioning that Tannehill is a reach, but he’s an extremely talented reach. If you’re going to take that risk, you do it with a quarterback. General manager Jeff Ireland had to get a strong candidate for the position. Tannehill may have to sit for half a season or so, but that’s fine if he ends up being good.
2012 NFL Draft Grades – Audibles – SI.com
This all depends on how much you believe in Ryan Tannehill. I’m on the fence, and especially suspect of his value at No. 8.
NFL draft grades: Bengals, Cowboys immediate winners
They also went for the extreme makeover, offensive edition. It’s just Tannehill is a big wild card.
Draft Grades: Bengals’ haul gets high praise; Saints flunk the weekend – NFL – CBSSports.com – NFLDraftScout.com
Taking Ryan Tannehill with the eighth overall pick is a risk. He has tools, but limited starts. Did they overdraft because of the need at the position?
Commentary: Dolphins go ‘all in’ with reach in grabbing Ryan Tann | http://www.palmbeachpost.com
Every draft is its own special animal, which explains why Dan Marino could be the 27th player selected in 1983 and Ryan Tannehill, who had trouble convincing his college coach that quarterback was his calling, could go at No. 8 on Thursday night. In my view, however, this would have been a reach in any draft year.
Ryan Tannehill To Dolphins With 8th Pick In 2012 NFL Draft
Tannehill might have been a reach at No. 8. He started just 19 games in college after switching from receiver to quarterback, and last year he threw 15 interceptions while going only 1-4 against Top 25 teams.
^ still going LOL
OMG, you smokin that Special K synthetic crap again?
You and I started the whole Tanny thing. LOL
LMAO, Tim, we don’t even have Tanny avies right now either….but Randy sees our blog names & his Tanny panic button is activated.
Chargers must be smiling now. They’ll likely take Tunsil to protect Rivers or go Ramsey to get their defense back on track, especially after losing Weddell to FA.
Jax is in a good position too
Nothing new to the NFL draft
QBs always go early
I knew it would happen
how many times have the top 2 picks been QBs
its probably more often than not
If it weren’t for Clowney hype and Manziel fuck up 2014 may have been the same
but Bortles went 3, Bridegwater went very late and Manziel…well only the Browns
Whatever, it wasn’t about bashing Tanny. I simply stated that he two guys this year are mow highly touted and/or graded than Tannehill and wonder why gdp was so down on them. If that’s Tanny bashing, so be it. It wasn’t my intention, and there’s nothing I can do if some want to twist it into that.
I’m not down on Wentz or Goff, but I’m surely not high on them either. Apparently Snead is very high on them & Roseman is so stoned he can’t even count….LOL
He was talking about ice cream and pizza. LOL
Randy,
I think given our position, our coaches, and the FO, the Tanny pick made total sense. Came from our OC’s college system….no brainer. He was easily the 3rd best (by just about anyones evaluation AT THAT TIME) QB that draft the other two already selected. Could we have traded back got him later, probably but not definitely. Could we have picked a different position/player gone with a guy like Cousins later, yes (i actually had plenty of mocks i did with us doing just that) but would that have surely panned out better….who knows. I mean these arent arguments you can have because its 1 ) hard to remember exactly what the situation was then, removing what you know now, and its impossible to know if you change variables what the output comes out to be since so many other variables also change when you adjust one.
The pick did make sense, but ask me if i think it would have made sense for us to have given up two thrids, a next years first and a year afters 2nd and my answer would have been hell fucking no we are retards if we make that choice. Taking Tanny at 8 where we already were is not comparable to that trade. If the Eagls had stayed put and selected Lynch at 8 that would be an almost identical comparison since Lynch is rougly the same level of ram with the same upsides that Tanny seemed to have at the point we drafted him
raw not ram
D,
That wasn’t my point. But, my comments have been high jacked by the tanneholics to, once again, lick the sweat off his balls. Lol
If I’m lickin the sweat off his nads, then you’re rummaging through his stools trying to find anything that stinks!
Pretty sure doesnt take much rummaging to find something that stinks in his stools. Might not even have to get very close at all to find it.
LOL, nobody was talking about Tanny until you brought it up.
What they gave up to get what t hey got is the head scratcher to me. Randy i do believe you are right though and Wentz and Goff probably at this point are better than Tanny was at the point we drafted him, Tanny is more like Lynch as a comparison to this years draft, and ironically he likely gets selected at 8 lol.
gdp
All I was asking is why you weren’t a fan of Goff and Wentz given they are at least as highly thought of as Tannehill was. Again, IT WAS ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS ON GOFF AND WENTZ NOT RIPPING TANNEHILL!!!! Lol
I believe I already replied that to ya above a few times.
D, btw, I agree with what ya said earlier on Bradford.
IMO, after extending Bradford, & then turning around & signing Chase Daniels to the highest back QB contract in the league, that as a GM, you’re best suited to just wait and draft a QB later to groom.
If Bradford & Chase both fail horribly, then and only then, do you show this type of desperation by selling the farm in 2017, especially when the QB class is said to be a bit better.
It just reeks of poor strategy..IMHO!
The Eagles also paid backup QB Chase Daniels 3 years $21M to not play. LOL
Tim,
I don’t know how else to explain it. I was using gdp’s opinion of Tannehill(which is/was very high) as a basis for his thoughts on Goff and Wentz….who are both more highly thought of than Tannehill was at that time. Then, I gave you a dozen examples of the general opinion of the pick of Tannehill because you disputed my characterization of what folks thought of it at the time after you chose to insert yourself into my comments to gdp and make it a Tanny issue.
I know what you were saying. I found it funny how fast you went there. Let’s put it this way it didn’t surprise me. LOL
Randy says:
April 20, 2016 at 2:05 pm (Edit)
gdp
Why are you so down on Wentz and Goff? Both of them are much more highly regarded and better prospects than Tanny was coming out of college. Why are you so sure neither of them will amount to much?
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this is clearly about “what is wrong with Goff or Wentz” not “Tanny sucks”
Randy has no problem saying explicitly saying that he doesn;t care for him
he’s done it many times before
I don’t think he is likely to make a thinly veiled Tanny slight
It is what it is
I don’t have a problem with the Rams or Eagles trading up to take their QB
I would rather be the trading down team
but its commonplace int he NFL to go after your guy at the QB position
You have to do what you have to do if you don;t have your guy
I have no idea what either QB will do in the NFL
I like to evaluate and opinion on prospects
but not QBs
its too unpredictable
If you don’t trust Bradford to be your long term QB, you draft his replacement NOW. You don’t wait until you need one. You bring a young guy in and groom him to step in in a year or two.
Randy, Chase Daniels was brought and paid to be that guy, they didnt need to draft a guy this year.
Neither Daniels nor Bradford scream confidence in the qb depth chart to me
maybe they carry 3 QBs
maybe they part ways with one of them with minimal cap consequences
His deal is 2 years but most of it is up front this year. They could move on next year. But they also paid their backup Chase Daniels 3 years $21M to not play so their investment in the position is very high and a bit bizarre.
D says:
April 20, 2016 at 2:53 pm
Pretty sure doesnt take much rummaging to find something that stinks in his stools. Might not even have to get very close at all to find it.
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LOL, you may be right. Word is he runs Lauren out of their huge lavish master bedroom with his infamous Dutch Oven’s.
Yeah the strategy of it makes 0 sense. The strategy of it said 2nd round QB to me, maybe Lynch at 8…in no way did it seem to say we are planning on fucking our new coach for 3 years so he will get replaced by then….as it does to me now.
years and years and years from now. some time in 2076 the rule of thumb will be
‘son, there are three things now you dont discuss with family, religion, politics and tannehill. it is just sure to end up in a fight”
what is the 3rd in the original version
I can’t remember
Taxes?
Sex?
Pork?
LOL, everyone will have a statue of Tannehill in their house has a reminder. Oh and one of Randy too. LOL
D,
I think Daniels ends up being their backup long term and Bradford will be gone. I don’t think any of the moves the Eagles have made means they won’t draft a QB. I have a hard time believing they’d give up those picks for anything but a QB. Nobody in this draft is worth all those picks, but teams are willing to do it for QBs. Do you have thoughts on who they may value that highly to give up all those picks if it’s not a QB?
Only other choices are Ramsey since they lost Maxwell, Zeke since they seem so high on him, or Tunsil to protect chicken legs.
The Eagles GM was just on the radio and he said it will be one of the QBs, they like both, like chocolate and strawberry. LOL
The only person id come close to valuing as high would be Ramsey, and i would just as likely to be just as dumbfounded if i heard they traded for him.
There are several QB’s coming up in Chip Kelly, Kayaa, Watson, Barrett, Fauk that all look pretty decent and by this time next year i think a couple of them will be as highly touted as those guys this year. I just dont think you trade away that much with a new coach, on a team thats got a lot of holes. I dont care how much you like the guy and how much you think of him, there is a too much for that guy thing. Teams have severly crippled themselves making moves like that, and i would bet if i went back and evaluated the number of times its been done, that the percentage that it instantly paid dividends is going to be really low.
That;s what I was saying….Roseman is on Special K….lol