2018 Miami Dolphins – Free Agency – OG

How we address the OL this year is going to determine the success, or failure of our team.  We’ve been using half measures for too long, and it’s time to finally get that unit performing at a high level.  Without inside knowledge from the team, I feel strongly that this O-line will be made right, or they will die trying for this season.  The news last night regarding the non-exclusive franchise tag designation for WR Jarvis Landry, at least at the moment, almost ensures we’re going to have to use the draft to fix the O-line.  The $16.2M salary for this season will prohibit a big free agent signing, leaving the draft as the more likely alternative.  Unless of course, the Dolphins work out a long term contract with Landry.  We’ll have to wait and see on that.  The Dolphins will still be making quite a few cuts and restructures, but those cuts won’t add up to one of the best FA OL, so that would mean more half measures.  Skip it guys, and do it right!

Andrew Norwell  6’6 325   26YO

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2018’s version of Kevin Zeitler, who was last year’s best guard on the market.  Zeitler was 27, Norwell is even younger at 26.  Norwell, despite playing well, has started and finished each game he’s been asked to the last 3 years.  He played and started 13 games in ’15, and then the following 2 seasons in ’16 and ’17 he started 16 games, so Norwell has shown he’s durable.  Sounds great, right?  It is, but unless we free up massive cap space, we just can’t afford to pay Norwell what he’s going to get, which is north of $11M per season, and closer to $12M  He would be a fantastic pickup for the Dolphins, and finally give us a legitimate LG, which I believe would also make our young LT , Laremy Tunsil, so much better.  We’ll have to wait and see how the Landry situation plays out, because until something happens on that front, it’s going to make this kind of signing nearly impossible.

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Jonathan Cooper  6’2 311  28YO

NFL: Dallas Cowboys at San Francisco 49ers

Wow!  Remember Jonathan Cooper?  Tim had him penciled in as our 1st RD draft pick so many years ago on our live draft!  Jahn and I had exhausting debates on who was the better player, Jonathan Cooper or Chance Warmack.  Here we are 5 years later, and Cooper may have had the most bizarre career path ever.  After being drafted at #7 by the Arizona Cardinals, Cooper broke his fibula in the 3rd preseason game, ending his season.  Replaced by (He-he) Ted Larsen, Cooper was unable to regain his starting spot, and some felt the leg injury may have hurt him more than expected.  Wrist injuries and knee injuries gave the job back to Larsen after Cooper finally got his shot to start.

In 2016, Cooper and a 2nd RD draft pick were sent to the New England Patriots to acquire DE Chandler Jones.  Cooper NEVER played a game for the Patriots.  He was waived, and then the Browns picked him up, and in ’16, all Cooper could manage was 5 games and 3 starts for the Browns.  Last season, Cooper was picked up by the Cowboys, and he finally got some meaningful playing time, starting 13 games on that vaunted line.  He played well last season, and due to his uneven career, he should be a relative bargain.  Granted, this could easily be filed under the half measure side of the ledger, but Cooper was an extremely talented prospect, that just seems to have had some bad luck. 5 years in the NFL, 1 broken leg and 4 teams.  He played well for the Cowboys last season, maybe Cooper’s star is on the rise for good now.

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Josh Kline  6’3 310   28YO

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Kline was an undrafted free agent in 2013 who was picked up by the New England Patriots.  Kline had to wait a couple of years before being elevated to starter, and in ’15, Kline started 14 games.  In ’16, the Tennessee Titans picked him up in FA, and he’s been the starter there the last 2 seasons, playing both LG and RG.  Kline is a grinder in the run game, paving the way for backs Derrick Henry and DeMarco Murray.  He will be due a pretty large payday, Spotrac expects him to be around the $10M range.  Right now, we’re not able to fit that in.

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Luke Joeckel  6’6 306  26YO

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Yes, another fallen star.  Joeckel was drafted #2 overall in the 2013 NFL draft by the Jaguars, 5 spots ahead of one Jonathan Cooper.  If Cooper has had a strange career path, Joeckel’s isn’t too many miles behind.  As a rookie, the green LT played in only 5 games, but in 2014, Joeckel started all 16 games for Jacksonville at LT, and then 14 games in 2015.  In 2016, the LG experiment began, and the career took a detour.  Once a very athletic, slightly underweight dancer at LT, now put in a power position inside at LG, didn’t work.  Joeckel eventually had knee surgery, ending the experiment with JAX.    The jags declined to pick up the 5th year option, and the Seattle Seahawks, desperate for O-line help gave the beleaguered OL another chance.  Joeckel started 11 games for the Seahawks, but is still a work in progress.  It would be hard to say Joeckel is the obvious answer to our woes here, but he would be a relatively low risk, or half measure solution.  Sorry folks, the options out there just aren’t great.

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Justin Pugh  6’5 307   27YO

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Another former 1st RD pick, this FA seems to chock full of them.  Pugh was a very successful player in the NFL, playing both RT and and LG.  Pugh was an immediate starter with the Giants after being drafted at #19 in the 2013 NFL draft, yeah, THAT draft, along with Cooper and Joeckel.   Cooper started all 16 games at RT his rookie season, and was a fan favorite.  He played his next season starting 14 games at RT, missing 2 games.  In 2015, the Giants O-line was decimated, and Pugh filled in everywhere, at RT, LG and LT.  In 2016, the Giants decided to move Pugh permanently to LG, where he started 14 games.  He was considered one of the top OG’s in the game that season.  Pugh battled minor injuries in ’16, playing and starting only 11 games.  In 2017, he started 8 games before going down with back issues, which later ended his season on IR.

While Pugh has been a great player in the league, injuries have shortened the last 2 seasons for him, but he’s a very tough, talented player.  Spotrac expects Pugh’s salary to be around $6.5M, which is not an outrageous, though risky proposition.

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There seems to be only one easy solid answer to our long term issue, but it’s an extremely expensive one with Andrew Norwell.  All the other guys except for Kline are more risky, but might bring better rewards if they pay off.  If Pugh is truly healthy, I’d take him on our team, I’ve seen him play quite a bit for the Giants.  There are some older players that can give us short term help, but I’m tired of going that route.  Some other possibilities are Jack Mewhort, who has been on a downslide for a couple of years, Zach Fulton formerly of the Chiefs, and Kevin Pamphile of the Bucs.  Both Fulton and Pamphile have been regular starters, but I’m not sure if they are upgrades to what we have.  If you have any thoughts, let me hear them . . .

 

 

 

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757 Responses to 2018 Miami Dolphins – Free Agency – OG

  1. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Lou – I’ll give you another analogy that you can better understand. Wendell Smallwood has a higher percentage of TD’s per carry (.021) compared to Jay Ajayi (.014). Is Smallwood the better running back? Is he more of a goal line threat compared to Ajayi? The answer to both questions is no, but the stats can show it that way, if you extrapolate silly things like percentage of catches for 1st down, or TD’s per rush attempt.

  2. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  3. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I think Cleveland may. be where SF was about 5 or 6 years ago….years of accumulating Hugh draft picks leading to a team with a good defense and a lot of talent. if they find at least a competent QB, They may be ready to take a step up in class.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      They have the cap for significant FA acquisitions, could draft Barkley and a QB in the 1st and then add good prospects at multiple positions with their three 2’s, a 3rd, two 4’s, two 5’s, a 6 and a 7. They can really transform their team.

  4. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  5. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  6. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Glad y’all slowed down with the posts. I was having a hard time catching up.

    I think Miami tagged Landry early so the team could see if there was a trade market for him (which there should be).

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Only thing I can come up with as well. Other theory was he will get to see what other teams are willing to offer him, but how realistic is that when they also have to give up two firsts. Guess those same teams could be throwing out what they would pay him if they did trade for him though.

  7. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    http://amp.si.com/nfl/2018/02/21/mock-draft-sam-darnold-browns-josh-allen-giants

    What I’ve been saying all along. If Baker is there they will take him.

  8. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    If we were to take Mayfield it wouldn’t be such a bad thing. He’s a pick at #11, not trading multiple picks from two drafts to land him. So if he doesn’t pan out to be very good, it’s the not the end of the world. If he is good you win.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I think i’d be excited if we got Allen or Mayfield. It would make things very interesting in MIA. Rosen or any of the 2nd or 3rd or 4th tier, not so much. I wouldn’t mind if we took a QB late instead, I just wouldn’t be hyped up about it.

  9. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I’m okay with taking Mayfield. He’s boom or bust. I like RT and have defended him, but he’s top of the average band at best. I see him as on par with Flacco, Matt Ryan, etc. he’s a franchise QB, but not elite and not special. Could he get better…sure. Just not likely.

    Mayfield may be special. He may not be. But you don’t find a lot of Bradys out there. You have to swing for the fences if you want to hit a home run.

  10. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Okay, got to board my flight. I’ll be back.

  11. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim – Nah, not thrilled with Rosen. Something about him I just don’t trust. He’s got the talent, just not sure if he’s “the guy”

  12. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    If we draft Mayfield at 11 Hulk smash puny hospital bed. Mayfield is being way overrated

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I tend to think Phish is right

      Kind of boom or bust

      Could be worse that Tannehill and be a really bad pick
      But might be special

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        His physical skills are not special hard to be special without those

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I do t think Peyton has special physical skills
        Brady either

        I wouldn’t say Brees has great physical skills

        I think those guys are cerebral types

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        Both had better arms. Manning had much better size. Also don’t forget Brees was a second round pick

  13. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Hulk will be fine with Josh Allen but I don’t see him making it past 4 or 5

  14. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Mayfield has that contagious leadership quality that everyone buys into. Obviously he has to play well, but that’s big. People play better when they believe in you.

  15. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Ken – How are you feeling today?

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      Hulk getting angry with talk of drafting Baker Mayfield. LOL. I am doing better than yesterday. I am still in a lot of pain but it is more manageable. I am not requesting my pain meds 4 hours on the dot today like I had been the first couple of days

  16. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Okay humans give me your top 5
    It doesn’t have to be based on team needs
    And I don’t mean who are your top 5 prospects

    I mean who do you think is most to fill out the top 5 (in no specific order)

    I’m going with
    Barkley
    Chubb
    Rosen
    Darnold
    Fitzpatrick

  17. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Hulk feeling better? Sorta of figuring you will get over the pain and then get real frustrated by the whole thing.

  18. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Off topic, but I saw this headline as a sign that the end of days (or maybe the pig uprising) is near: “In One Tweet, Kylie Jenner Wiped Out $1.3 Billion of Snap’s Market Value.”

  19. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    BARKLEY
    ALLEN
    FITZPATRICK
    DARNOLD
    ROSEN

  20. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Tim, who would have predicted we would have cap problems with TanneBUM in charge? Oh, wait that was ME when we hired him. The Suh signing was just stupid.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Good, it’s about time. The things Mando mentioned were cutting Suh outright to save about $17M, or trading him, which would save about $3M. I think the latter is more likely than the former, but it would have to be a team with tons of cap space, and of course, a team that loves Suh

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      That was in the article I posted.

  21. If the Phins have a chance, they’re drafting Baker Mayfield. No doubt in my mind. No players has been more hyped with the Phins fans than Mayfield has to this point and Ross keeps his ear to the ground. He hears all the Phins fans out there banging the table for Mayfield and he’s got a stadium to pay for and Mayfield is going to put butts in the seats.

  22. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Head & Shoulders Will Robinson! (that should help with the Dander) 😉

  23. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    When one player makes up 14.7% of your cap (who is not a QB) and two players including the QB make up 26% of your cap, you are going to have cap problems. I said this in 2015 when we signed Suh to the stupid contract. TWO PLAYERS are eating more than a quarter of our cap room! With Landry’s tag, three players will eat up 35% of our cap….

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It’s not a great year for FA anyway so I don’t see us being big spenders even if we end up with a decent amount after cuts and restructures. Keep building with youth.

  24. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, your top 5 is very possible.

  25. for once I’d just like to see the people running this organization show some balls and do something aggressive.

    cut Suh, Tannehill, Wake, Pouncey, Timmons & Thomas and decline the 5th yr option on James.

  26. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LMAO Rock – I’ve had him off the team since the season ended. 🙂

  27. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    It’s not a great year for FA anyway so….

    Yeah Tim, but we are in a position where we have to restructure guys or cut ok players just to get under the cap. (at least until the Landry issue runs it’s course) Restructuring only pushes the pain out to future years.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Filling your roster with mostly drafted players and some UDFAs also buys you time as those contracts run out when the first time UFAs are up?

  28. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    3 players 35% of cap. 50 players 65% of cap. Sumting Wong here.

  29. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Nogtih all!

  30. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  31. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    I never worry about the cap…

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      That’s the best practice because we don’t always know exactly how the deals were done or what the plans are.

      • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

        Yep. Eagles are over the cap, you think their fans are worried?

        There is gonna be a lot of changes coming. There really is no big FAs out there this year either, so Phins will be fine money wise.

  32. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    ER – Why would Eagles fans be worried about the cap? They have a great team right now.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I think he means they won doing that. Also the Eagles weren’t a great team just a year ago. That’s how quickly things can turn around. We’ve been seeing a lot of that lately. Hopefully we get to experience that someday soon. 🙂

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      That being said, I don’t worry about the cap either, but I would think Dolphins fans have more to worry about than Eagles fans

      • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

        Eagles aren’t paying that big QB money yet and are over the cap…they will be making changes.

        I’m just saying it’s no big deal. Lol

  33. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim – Yeah, I hope so man. I also don’t want to be a flash in the pan, I’d like some consistency

  34. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Everyone should look on the bright side. If they have no cap space , they can’t make stupid FA signings.

    • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

      Yep!

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Excellent point!

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Suh is the only debatable stupid contract. All the other signings can basically be cleared even starting with the Maxwell trade, the signing of Timmons or the trade for Thomas. I highly doubt Landry stays at the franchise tag. Tannehill is on a yearly play for pay deal. Nobody else is paid a crazy amount.

      • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

        I don’t get the heat on Branch’s deal either. He’s making about average for a DE. He was disappointing last year but played hurt without one word about it. He has already had surgery so it isn’t an excuse he was playing hurt.

      • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

        I mostly agree. Timmons would have been stupid if he had not went AWOL.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        The FO does have to realize that they swung and missed on Maxwell, Timmons and Thomas. But they weren’t devastating long-term effects.

  35. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    There they go on Suh again…

    SMMFH

  36. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Can’t see the forest for the trees 🌲

  37. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    A butcher a Baker
    A touchdown maker

    ( to Landry)

  38. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Alright D the moratorium is over get back here

  39. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Is it at all possible it’s like this:

    ” Jarvis we love you and you are a huge part of what we are building. We’re going to tag you because we have to clear cap space while also upgrading our offense and we don’t want to risk losing you.”

  40. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Armed cameras you operate with a toggle. Down every hallway of every school in the country.

  41. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Sonny – I hope we find a way to keep Landry, I would hate to see him go. We finally get one right, it seems a damn shame to let him go. We have no control, we just gotta watch and let it play out. The good thing is that we will definitely be getting some compensation if he doesn’t stay, so there’s that.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      If we really want to keep Landry and pay him whatever 13-14 per, the guaranteed money is key. We can make his salary cap hit low at least the first year but he know’s he’s getting X amount guaranteed. As his contract grows, there are outs with Suh and Tannehill. It depends on where this team thinks they are and if they’re going to make a run before we really turn it over.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      I’d consider it much worse than a damn shame honestly. One we’d forever regret.
      Build on the special talent. Mediocrity doesn’t win.
      Setting league and team records since he got in the league but we can’t use him. I don’t get it.

  42. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I feel it in my trotters –
    Landry is staying

  43. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Tannehill and the 11 for either the 4 or the 5

  44. Difference between the Phins and the Eagles is the Eagles went out and signed players that would make them a better team and we went out and signed one year rental guys that wouldn’t be here the next season as stop gaps to get us thru the season.

    Problem as I see it is when you sign one year stop gap guys how hard are they really going to work to help you achieve your goal of winning.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Besides Suh when Tannebaum was here in 2015, Gase and Grier are only on two years as HC and GM. This group has made the roster dominated mostly by the draft and in-house so far.

      • what I’m saying is some guys in this league know how to assemble a roster that can compete and win championships and other guys know how to assemble rosters that are made up of has beens that have no business starting anywhere.

        time to blow up this roster and show they’ve got some balls.

        cut Suh, Tannehill, Pouncey, Wake, Timmons, Thomas. trade Landry and decline the 5th yr option on James. puts us at about $57M in cap. make the moves necessary to make the team better rather than living in the mediocrity zone forever.

  45. Here it is with all the cuts I made plus the trade of Landry and the trade of Parker to the Jags for Smoot. In addition, I signed wr Jordan Matthews and olb Nigel Bradham in FA. We still need a starting QB, TE, WR, DE, DT, C and RT.

    That’s a lot but if Davis is as good as they’re giving him credit for then maybe we don’t need the RT.

    for entertainment purposes only!! lol

  46. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Lou, I’m not blowing it up in 2018. If that’s a sub par season than yes in 2019.

  47. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Yeah. No need to have a QB next year……worked well for the Broncos.

    • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

      Thomas and Timmons are good as gone. James can’t be cut unless he passes physical. I’m good with cutting Poncey but not if James is gone. You can’t just dismantle the entire OL.
      Everyone knows how I feel about Parker…..
      Get Landry locked up and sign the man.

  48. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    This is Suh. There is no defensive prospect even close to him in this draft or even in recent ones. That’s why he gets paid the way he does. Do you want the NFL highlights? This isn’t a dozen or so examples, it goes on for quite some time. He’s super talented and violent. Keep watching into the NFL.

    • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

      Wait for Aaron Donald….He’s gonna get a HUGE contract next year.

      I think nobody discounts Suh’s ability, it’s just the price for him while the defense still stinks like the rest of team.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I disagree. We have good pieces in place on defense. You sometimes have to look at circumstances. Like an offense that evens the playing field. We didn’t build on 2016, we took a step back. But it doesn’t mean we can’t get back to the playoffs in 2018 and you never know. 🙂

  49. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Pieces that stunk as a whole…..lol

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      We had over a dozen new defenders who played significant snaps and roles this year. We had an unkind season with injuries and BS. Some major stuff on offense too.

      Coaches and new coaches have to do a better job along with players.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      I tend to agree with ER. Not a lot to get excited about on this team. Landry is one of the few pieces to get excited about

  50. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    This aught to make OD happy?

    11: R1P11 G QUENTON NELSON, NOTRE DAME
    42: R2P10 C BILLY PRICE, OHIO STATE
    73: R3P9 TE MIKE GESICKI, PENN STATE
    113: R4P11 LB DARIUS LEONARD, SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
    132: R4P30 RB ROYCE FREEMAN, OREGON
    186: R6P9 S JESSIE BATES, WAKE FOREST
    223: R7P5 EDGE JOE OSTMAN, CENTRAL MICHIGAN
    229: R7P11 CB RASHAAN GAULDEN, TENNESSEE

  51. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Lots of interesting chatter on the radio this morning. Boomer Esiason on WFAN in NY thinks the Dolphins could be a surprise entry into the Kirk Cousins sweepstakes. I think he’s wrong. Other tidbits were the thoughts that the Dolphins love Mayfield, and will trade up to get him

  52. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Ken – All this speculation is fueled by the fact that they think Tannenbaum likes to make the big splash. I don’t know where they get that from . . .

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      Enough with the big splash let’s build a team instead. The big slpashes haven’t done anything for us

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        I agree completely. I just think Mikey Tradey-Pants isn’t happy unless he’s wheeling and dealing. I don’t mind if they have a guy they love and they get him, but not at the cost of doing everything else you need to do as well.

  53. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I wouldn’t want Cousins. I think he is just okay, middle of the pack.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I think he’s been just a little better than Tannehill in Tannehill’s good seasons. He really only had one bad season (Tannehill). I don’t see him worth $30M+, when we already have Tannehill. If we want a new QB, draft one, don’t grossly overpay for one in FA.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      If I was the redskins and I drafted cousina I would be static

      But if I was a team signing him and making him the highest paid qb in the nfl – not so much

  54. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Be careful Ken

    Saw Thor Ragornak last night and learned that Banner was stuck inside Hulk for 2 years

  55. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Piggy – If you were the Redskins, I’d feel pretty dopey that they didn’t work out a long term contract, kinda like we’re gonna feel if/when Landry is gone, but at least we have a shot of recouping something for Landry, Cousins is just gone.

  56. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Think about what the Redskins did at QB the last 5 years. They traded THREE 1st RD picks to the Rams, plus a 2nd RD pick in 2012. They doubled down in 2012, taking Cousins in the 4th RD. We all know what happened to RG III, but that opened the door for Cousins, who they TWICE paid the franchise tag price, $20M in ’16, $24M in ’17, and now he walks. That’s an INSANE investment

  57. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I agree with MikeE. Cousins is a little better than Tannehill but not that much better that I would sign him. I’d say Cousins is a top 10 QB but just barely. Also, I would be shocked if a team traded for Tannehill…as in the first round sort of trade…with him coming off his injuries. I think we’d have to give up more to move up into the top 5. I’m not a big fan of moving up in this draft unless they are going to target a QB. The problem with that is you may need to get into the top 3 to get one of the best QBs in this draft. I’m not sure any of these QBs are worth that.

  58. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Adam Schefter
    Adam Schefter
    @AdamSchefter
    His free-agent tour continues: former Colts’ CB Vontae Davis visiting today with the Miami Dolphins, per source.

  59. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I think they will sit and wait to see who goes 1 & 2 and if Mayfield is still on the board, try to jump to 4 or, if Denver gets Cousins, 5.

  60. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Just put some language in his contract about bathroom usage

  61. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Despite me being a fan of Cousins, especially at draft time, I also don’t want to pay him big money.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Cousins ain’t coming here. Gase likes Tanny. Only way we get Cousins is if Ross steps in. Doesn’t mean Cousins agent will not talk us up as a possible though…..could even be a visit.

  62. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  63. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    All this talk about the salary cap, they can just write it off
    “Jerry, all these big companies, they write off everything!”

  64. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Another great draft pick….
    See! You got to keep the few you get right!

  65. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    Just saying…,I’m completely fine if they want to permanently take all the guns away from Jonathan Martin.

  66. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Somewhere Richie Incognito was buying body armor

  67. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    Seeing on twitter he was taken into custody.

  68. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    One of my wife’s students got arrested yesterday for basically the same thing. Kid said it was a joke. Definitely not a smart move even if he was joking.

  69. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The other person Martin tagged was a basketball player who went to HS with him. I guess he bullied him as well.

  70. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    I bullied Jonelle Martin too.
    When he was a freshman I shoved him in a cafeteria garbage can.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      You’re as cuckoo as Martin

      • the $57M in cap is actually lower than it should be. we would have saved $17M cutting Suh and Spotrac only gave us $3.9M.

        With nearly $70M in cap we could do a lot to get some players we need. Good players; not stop gap, one year rental guys.

        we could build a team and get rid of guys we’re only going to be getting rid of anyway in another year. how do we build a team if some of these guys who are starters this year won’t even be here next season?

  71. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Compensatory picks awarded. None for the Dolphins but we weren’t expecting any. But now we’ll know the complete draft.

  72. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Egg foo young and Jonelle Martin are Ireland’s two biggest pillars of greatness.

    Richie loved playing here and he’s a Pro bowler so Ireland goes and gets a psychotic doofus to plug in next to him.

  73. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Who did NE get a 4th for?

  74. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Whenever Jonelle comes up I think of Bat. I miss him.

    Show yourself Bat. Hope you’re doing well my best to your Mrs should you see this. 👍

  75. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Come to the Fest this year Bat

  76. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    We need to make the patsies look old next year. It’s time for their shit to end.

  77. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Screwed up stuff. Probably makes Richie and Pouncey say “told you so” at the same time.

  78. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Still cracking up about Egg foo young. LOL

  79. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Troy Stradford just called him the softest dude he’s ever met.

  80. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    He fucked over MY Dolphins
    I’m incapable of treating him as a human being

    Oh the irony
    After Martin is dead
    And they slice up his brains
    And the guy (who incidentally has his own demons) carrying the tray of brains
    Throws a work place tantrum
    And slams Martins brains all over the floor

  81. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    It’s refreshing to know that NBC Nightly News just said that Johnathan Martin is currently seeking treatment for his mental illness. I mean, I guess he wasn’t taken into custody after posting an extremely threatening message on his Instagram and forced to talk to police and mental professionals or anything… WOW. #FakeNews

    I’m VERY happy this incident didn’t end in bloodshed. MAJOR PROPS to our Dolphins’ director of security Drew Brooks for informing the NFL after Martin’s Instagram post was posted, and to whoever then alerted the proper authorities in a very timely manner. And I hope Martin gets the help he needs before something like this occurs again… or worse.

  82. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    WYOMING: YES, Nelson at #11 and Price at #42 WOULD please me (altho’ I’m a little underinformed on Mr. Price). PROBLEM IS neither may be available when Miami picks. AND, it’s unlikely Miami will be able to significantly bolster their O-Line through free agency, as Mike E. so intelligently explained in the above article. SAME OLD, SAME OLD, eh???
    ——————-
    The thing that I’M MOST WORRIED ABOUT is the fact that T-BOMB and GRIER most likely will be doin’ the pickin’. IDIOT ROSS fails to understand the basic fact that WE NEED NEW, BETTER, PEOPLE RUNNING THIS DRAFT!!
    ——————
    THE CURE?? Since Ross is reluctant to fire THESE PROVEN LOSERS, he should seek the advice of Bill Polian or some other PROVEN WINNER and tell T-Bomb and Grier THEY MUST go O-Line with 2 of the first three picks. This would include MOVING UP 4-6 spots, if necessary, to get Nelson who, I believe, is the top O-Lineman in the draft.
    —————-
    LAST SEASON I told you that if we did not successfully address our issues in the O-Line, we’d pay a brutal price at quarterback. WE DID!!! Tanny, Cutler and Moore all spent significant time on the injured list. This year actually COULD BE WORSE THAN LAST SEASON (despite an easier schedule) if we start the season with the same roster of mostly underperformers that we had in 2017. I REPEAT: SHITTY O-LINE=SHITTY SEASON.
    —————
    KEN: Glad to see you are recovering. Great to have you on the board.

  83. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:
  84. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    February 23, 2018 at 4:51 pm

    ————
    Bro, you’ve accumulated nearly $40M in dead cap!!! That’s something Tannenbaum would do/did when he was with the stej!!!

  85. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Our OL might really benefit from drafting a guy like this

  86. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  87. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I’m not sure Martin was making a threat, I think he was sending a message to specific people he felt bullied by, that this is how some people deal with it based on the recent shootings. Dumb thing to do for sure though.

  88. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  89. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    What happened????

  90. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    February 23, 2018 at 8:20 pm
    I’m not sure Martin was making a threat, I think he was sending a message to specific people he felt bullied by, that this is how some people deal with it based on the recent shootings. Dumb thing to do for sure though.
    ———-
    In this day and age… and right off the heels of the Parkland school shooting, I’d certainly take that as a threat. And when ya think of Martin’s circumstances that led up to that (mental instability, attempted suicide 3 times), I’d take that as a threat… whether it be to himself or the others he mentioned.

    Regardless and as you stated, dumb thing to do for sure.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I didn’t say don’t take it as a threat until you know more. I think he was saying this is what happens, Ritchie, Mike etc. He likely feels the shooters pain and why it gets to that point. Not the right way to put it out there though. It surely didn’t help him move on.

  91. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Lol @ the bust tribute today.

  92. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    M

    I think Lou is writing off next season. Take the dead money and start again in 2019…..Phins would be an expansion team this year.

  93. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    In a dark place tonight

    https://youtu.be/motitBZiB7k

  94. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    M

    My quick search says only if they are post June 1 cut, can you split dead money for next 2 years. I think dead money is counted on current year cap only otherwise. I could be wrong too. Lol

  95. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    ElephantRider says:
    February 23, 2018 at 8:42 pm
    Then I have no clue. Lol
    ———-
    It might have to do with the timing of the release as well (in-season vs off-season). I’m not quite sure. I DO know that there are loopholes when it comes to dead money.

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