Look at that mismatch! That powerful Zork can’t be stopped which is why I released him on that unsuspecting village
You think the Zork is a just a big two handed monster, so you set up your planetary defenses to stop a big strong attack – and the Zork slips right through with unexpected speed.
If you try to set up your defense to stop that speed – the Zork overpowers you.
Just like some of the talented tight ends in the 2018 draft.
One example: Mike Gesicki
The Positives: This is one athletic tight end! First of all this guy can soar. Want to have some fun – google “Mike Gesicki catch” and check out the images of this jumping sky high above defenders.
We’ve seen the NFL make good NFL players out of basketball players. In this case, Gesicki is a volleyball player. Every time he goes up for a catch, it looks like he is going to spike it. But his 10 1/8 inch hands pull the ball in softly.
Oh and he’s fast. Gesicki ran a 4.54 40 yard dash at the combine. That speed had him light up opposing defenses that just could not find a way to stop him. Over the last two years Gesicki had 105 catches, 1242 yards, and 15 touchdowns.
The Negatives: This is not your classic tight end. He’s not going to be much of an asset when it comes to run blocking. Gesicki is certainly strong, he had 22 reps in the bench press at the combine which was second among tight ends – but I would not call his build prototypical tight end size. Sure he is 6’5 but he has a bit of a lean lanky build. He’s not that physical. Think of Gesicki as more Jimmy Graham than Anthony Fasano.
The Alien Dust: I wonder if there was a player who helped himself more at the combine. He wowed everyone. It wasn’t just a fast 40 yard dash. He was 1st among tight ends in every category except for bench press…where he fell to 2nd place…lol
This is a special athlete. He may not be a huge asset in the blocking game – but this a guy who changes an offense. I believe Gesicki will be a pro bowl receiver in the NFL.
His impressive combine might be enough to vault him into the 1st round. But I think there is a good chance Gesicki is a 2nd or even a 3rd round pick. If he lasts to the 4th round – consider every NFL scout a moron.
Mike Gesicki compares favorably with the destructive Zork!
Check out his highlights here:
Finsmob Unleashed 
First Hulk Smash
Gimme Benkert!!!! I don’t give a SHIT what the Jets do. They’ll ruin any quarterback they take anyway.
Benkert, Weah, Akins and Chunn and I’m done.
11: R1P11 LB TREMAINE EDMUNDS, VIRGINIA TECH
42: R2P10 TE MARK ANDREWS, OKLAHOMA
73: R3P9 C FRANK RAGNOW, ARKANSAS
123: R4P23 RB JOHN KELLY, TENNESSEE
131: R4P31 QB KURT BENKERT, VIRGINIA
209: R6P35 S TRAYVON HENDERSON, HAWAII
227: R7P9DL ZAYCOVEN HENDERSON, TEXAS A&M
229: R7P11 K DANIEL CARLSON, AUBURN
That’s another good one
You and Mike basically copied each other
I like Falk better than Benkert
And Gesecki better than Andrews
Swine!
11: R1P11
LB TREMAINE EDMUNDS
VIRGINIA TECH
42: R2P10
TE MIKE GESICKI
PENN STATE
73: R3P9
C FRANK RAGNOW
ARKANSAS
123: R4P23
RB BO SCARBROUGH
ALABAMA
131: R4P31
QB LUKE FALK
WASHINGTON STATE
209: R6P35
DL DEADRIN SENAT
SOUTH FLORIDA
227: R7P9
S GODWIN IGWEBUIKE
NORTHWESTERN
229: R7P11
RB JAYLEN SAMUELS
NORTH CAROLINA STATE
That’s a pretty good draft
I’d be pretty happy if we came out with a few of those guys
Nice! But swap out Sicki with Joe Dert and we’re good to go.
I think if we draft Gesicki, we’re going to have to call him Zork!
Unleash the Zork!
Imagine at the Fest game, he catches a TD, and our whole section is screaming ZORK! ZORK! ZORK!
Maybe the Phins brass is smarter than I’ve given them credit for; forcing a division opponent to move up in the draft with the Mayfield courting and now the Bills are probably going to be forced to move up too, giving up picks if they do.
Well that might be the result but it’s really hard to plan that
It may be coincidence really, it might have been something they were working on since Buffalo traded to the #12 spot
Has anyone seen the follow-up medicals on MAURICE HURST – MICHIGAN
Nope
When is Michigan’s pro day?
Pig — you sold me on Gesicki. Loved the look on the faces of those two Trojan dbs in the first pic….it was “hell no he ain’t doing that.” If he is there in the 2nd hope we take him. And only draft thing am sure of is that if we don’t bring in say Ebron that we need to go TE in either the 2nd or 3rd.
2ND! Gesicki won’t be there in the 3rd, and Goedert and Hurst won’t either.
If those 3 TEs are set up like the top 4 QBs….then lets get one. Also suggests that a trade down wouldn’t be a bad idea. At least some mocks have Goedert and Gesicki going bottom first.
You can draft him!
But this is what I’ll forever see
I don’t get it
Goedert
Go-gurt
Goedert- Gogurt
Wyo – I thought you were referring to Gesicki, that’s why I didn’t get it.
Stanger – Yeah, that can happen, some team may grab the first TE in RD 1, and then the others will follow shortly after.
I’m always a fan of trade downs. This time around am thinking that turning our first two picks into one of those TE’s plus — pick two from DT, LB, DB, QB, OL, RB — in the first two rounds wouldn’t hurt one bit.
I wasn’t really talking about the trade down, just how long the TE’s will last on the board. I think we should pick at #11 if there’s good talent there like either Roquan or Tremaine, or maybe Fitzpatrick.
I’ll be honest Gesicki kind of scares me a little!
I have visions of Egnew running through my head every now and then?
Egnew was a dope. Think of Gesicki more like the Giants TE Evan Engram
Gesicki is bigger, but he won’t be blocking any more than Engram does, at least not right away
I don’t think Egnew was a football player
Gesicki is a much better prospect
^
He was like Jonathan Martin, just not as mentally unstable.
Wyo
Don’t belittle Gesicki, Brian in NY loves him, and he’s probably still pretty salty about losing Landry
Good stuff, Piggy!
If Gesicki and some of the other TEs are those mismatch weapons we think they are, then why not take one in the 1st rd? Every team wants one, but they always get put in the 2nd and 3rd rd. Most of these guys don’t block because they’re not asked to. Is there any doubt that one or two or maybe more of these TEs are going to become better impact players than some of the other guys ranked as 1st rd picks? Then after 4 years we’ll see them get huge contracts and a 1st rd grade would be verified.
Mike E., Our drafts were very close and even when we weren’t the same picks we almost drafted the same positions, minus 1 or 2 positions.
MIKE E’s picks:
11: R1P11 LB TREMAINE EDMUNDS VIRGINIA TECH
42: R2P10 TE MIKE GESICKI PENN STATE
73: R3P9 C FRANK RAGNOW ARKANSAS
123: R4P23 RB BO SCARBROUGH ALABAMA
131: R4P31 QB LUKE FALK WASHINGTON STATE
209: R6P35 DL DEADRIN SENAT SOUTH FLORIDA
227: R7P9 S GODWIN IGWEBUIKE NORTHWESTERN
229: R7P11 RB JAYLEN SAMUELS NORTH CAROLINA STATE
BBM’s Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Edmunds, Tremaine, OLB, Virginia Tech (A)
Round 2 Pick 10: Gesicki, Mike, TE, Penn State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9: Ragnow, Frank, C/OG, Arkansas (A)
Round 4 Pick 23: Fatukasi, Folorunso, DT, Connecticut (A)
Round 4 Pick 30: Ferguson, Riley, QB, Memphis (C)
Round 6 Pick 35: Smythe, Durham, TE, Notre Dame (B)
Round 7 Pick 5: Carlson, Daniel, K, Auburn (B)
Round 7 Pick 11: Facyson, Brandon, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
I went DT earlier but do like Senat. I wanted to double down on TE to get a blocker. I am not crazy about Scarborough at all. He is not quick to the hole and needs a lane to get going. If there is no lane, he will be DT3 all over again (IMO). Alabama used him a lot less toward the end of the season cause he was not producing. Give me Freeman there instead of him there and your draft kicks ass! I like the idea of Ferguson or Fauk in the end of the 4th just like we did it.
I wanted a RB in the 7th but didn’t like any of them
Bo knows! Yeah Mike, definitely a very like mentality on what we both did in the draft. I’d be thrilled with either of those. I like Facyson too, great value as our last pick
Oh so I see the Jets traded up with the Colts. No doubt for a QB.
Not a big fan of this potential move though I understand why the team would be interested, I guess it depends on what it would cost.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article205678514.html
If we can get him on an inexpensive 1 YR deal, I’d take him, but there are only a handful of Frank Gore stories as far as RB’s that don’t fall a cliff after 30
Yeah he won’t be a bell cow as he’ll split time with Drake, and he is also a good receiver which Gase wants in his RBs.
Not crazy about RB Murray either. Guess they are trying to plug holes before the draft to put them in better position for BPA.
I have always liked DeMarco Murray but I would prefer to draft one
Was sorry to read you had to go back to the hospital last night. They have a frequent flyer program or something….would be a shame not to earn miles when you could. 🙂
Chubb is better than every one of them
Chunn
HEY Randy!!!!!!!!!
what’s your take on LB JOSEY JEWELL, IOWA
There are always a bunch of small school RB’s looking to make a shot. A buddy of mine told me about a little BEAST from Humbolt State. He described him as a quick little bowling ball at 5’6″ but 200 lbs. Guys like this are worth bringing in as UDFA’s.
Happy St. Patrick’s Day everyone.
GO DOLFANS!
GO DOLPHINS!
Ditto!
I asked this on the last blog as a reply to Piggy and he never replied, so I’m asking all of you.
Say after the 4 QBs, Barkley, Chubb, Nelson, Fitzpatrick, Edmunds and Smith, who is a no-brainer for you?
I think I’d have to say Vita Vea.
Yeah it kind of screams that doesn’t it? What do you think of Payne?
I like Payne as well, but I think we’re looking for a lane-clogging DT… hence our interest in Dontari Poe last year during FA. We probably want a guy who will demand double-teams with the departure of Suh.
Payne is smaller than Vea but quicker and more of a shoot the gap DT. But he’s also very strong. It will come down to team preference but I could see us drafting either of them.
I would have no problem if we signed Murray
I’m surprised, thought you would think that was one of those stopgap signings you don’t like. 😉
Any opinion on my question above?
What question?
6:40, it’s for everyone.
I’m split.
Pros: he’s provides leadership and is a positive looker room guy, he can do it all (run, catch, and block), and he shouldn’t break the bank.
Cons: he’s now a 30-year old RB, he’s going to be on his 4 different team over the last 5 years, and he ran for 3.6 YPC last year (tied for his career low).
We could do FAR worse, for sure… but can we do better via the Draft? I’d like to think so.
I feel the same way, but if the plan is to have a vet presence who knows the game and draft a back at some point, nothing wrong with that.
It looks like we’re letting Williams test the market, if he doesn’t get a deal I wouldn’t be surprised if we brought him back on a low end contract.
I don’t see signing him as precluding us from taking a rb bit giving us more flexibility at draft time
I guess I’m cool with signing DeMarco, but let’s draft another RB, too.
Omar replied to this saying this is going to hurt. Does this signing really worry you?
Nope
I’d be concerned by almost any move those cheaters make. But to your question… NO, Jeremy Hill alone doesn’t scare me.
Yeah he’s an average back who’s had some good moments, nothing more.
DeMarco Murray meets with us tomorrow. Won’t be surprised if we sign him. What range contract do you see?
As we’ve done with every 30-something player under Gase/Tannenbaum, he’ll likely be signed to a 2-year deal. Keep it between $4-5M/year, and I’ll be good with that. JMO
Tim,
I don’t have a no brainer if they’re all gone
I keep going back and forth on that too. I understand the DT option with the Suh void. But DT doesn’t have to be 1st rd. Trading down would probably be a good option if that’s available, there are still good prospects but none of them seems to be you have to get that guy. Add a an extra pick or two depending on the trade down and take the guy you want. That’s a scenario where I think you can target need, you already got extra compensation and didn’t wildly reach at #11.
I’m loving the QB frenzy!!!!!!!!!!
Give me Roquan Smith!!!!!!!!!!!
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
March 17, 2018 at 6:08 pm
Chubb is better than every one of them
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Ya that’s why he is going in the 2nd!
These are late round other than Kelly!
I meant Chunn
Smith!!!!!!!!!!
Either LB.
This is a tough one for me, between Tremaine and Roquan. But due to the better system fit for our team, I’d have to go with Roquan.
I’m in an ax throwing bar
Pray for Piggy
LOL, I’ve seen these popping up. Nothing like beers and axes. Yikes!
Bacon!!!!
Pig,
Nice write on one of my FAVORITE players in this Draft class. Brian from NY and I have spoken VERY highly about Gesicki for some time… good to see him finally gaining traction with those who aren’t familiar with him.
I wouldn’t care if we drafted him in the 1st rd. If you think he’s going to be the player you think he is, who cares? With our WRs, Drake etc., an upgraded OL and Tannehill back, this is a much more explosive offense that puts pressure on a defense in all phases. Hey maybe trade down into the teens, get some extra comp and just do it. I’d be all for that. I think a TE like him is what we need to take the next step.
So I ask you this, do you think Gesicki will be one of those TEs that everyone wants and can’t cover?
Read below, my friend…
I’m about >>>this close<<< to trading down to the early-mid 20s, take Gesicki there, and gaining either another 2nd or 3rd round pick.
Taking Gesicki @ R1P11 would be a HUGE reach, IMO. Ya can’t select a TE THAT early unless he’s a complete specimen… meaning he’s a STUD of a blocker, on top of being a STUD of a receiver. Gesicki is not Vernon Davis when it comes to blocking.
I know, but if he’s that matchup nightmare I’d think about it. 😉
As much as I LOVE Gesicki, Tim, I wouldn’t advise taking him @ R1P11. Mismatch nightmare or not as a receiver, he’s not a complete specimen like a Vernon Davis was. Gesicki doesn’t absolutely SUCK at blocking like Mark Andrews, but he’s certainly not very good at it.
What I’m saying, if you think Gesicki would be a Gronk type player, that big presence in the passing game, is he worth a #11 pick? I do. I don’t think blocking is the key. It’s also something he can work on. He’s a big guy. But that’s not what you’re drafting him for. You want that middle of the field presence who can get chunk yards utilizing his size and speed that makes a QB’s job easier.
Not saying the team is thinking this way, this is just me. LOL
I’m not sure I can use Gronk and Gesicki in the same sentence. What’s more, I’m not sure Gesicki has the frame or body-type to add much more weight, despite being 6’5″. His blocking ability would likely be a constant work in progress, but that’s just me.
Hey, I’m being honest, as always… despite my MAN CRUSH on Gesicki.
But he’s cool in the 2nd rd? My thing is who are we passing on for him? Is it a guy you have to take? I’m trying to get a feel for the 1st rd. Not sure it’s filled with no-brainers.
Tim,
And before me forgets… Happy St. Patty’s Day to ya, me Irish Brother! ☘️
CHEERS!!!
You too, bro. Top of the eve to ya! 🙂
Just replace fish with TE. LOL
LOL
Good to know. He’s a pro. As a committee back can’t really not like it.
How it ever it works out, we need that TE presence in the offense.
YESSIR!!! 100% agreed!!!
Give me Hurst over Gesicki all day . JMO
I have feeling Phins going defense @ 11……
Edmunds!
The only issue with Hurst is his age
But he’s solid too
I like both. I see the same threat in the passing game. I want a TE like that, that’s all. 🙂
Survived
No axe injuries
Tim Knight says:
March 17, 2018 at 8:49 pm
But he’s cool in the 2nd rd? My thing is who are we passing on for him? Is it a guy you have to take? I’m trying to get a feel for the 1st rd. Not sure it’s filled with no-brainers.
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I hear that… I do. And if you saw what I posted earlier this week, I asked Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) about Gesicki. He and I both believe Gesicki could go in the late 1st round.
I’d recommend (if there are no “no-brainers” @ R1P11) trading down and landing Gesicki in the early-mid 1st round, while garnering another pick (perhaps as early as another 2nd rounder, but likely another 3rd rounder).
Sorry
*mid-late 1st round
As in, trade down to the mid-late 1st round from R1P11 to land Gesicki.
Yeah I said as much. Let’s say we hypothetically traded down to #19 and got a 4th and 5th, I’d do it. You get that TE, add more picks filling a void in the 5th, still pick #42 and 73 in the next two rounds. We can use those three 4’s to move up in the 2nd or 3rd to get the guy we really want. I would love a scenario like this.
Yup, I could roll with that, man.
SHIT!
Meridith got caught!
Burgess Meredith got caught by Adam West again?!!
Once the first TE goes off the board, I’ve got the feeling that we’re going to see a big run on them shortly afterward. It would be wise to either be ahead of that curve (as in, take the first TE off the board), or have the draft capital to make an instant trade-up before our TE targets go before we select again.
Lets say we stay at #11 and take our BPA. We still have two 4’s and could use one to trade up for that TE at the top of rd 2 like we did when drafting Xavien Howard two years ago. That’s an option too.
That, too, could work. So long as we get one of the better TEs this year… that’s what I’d like to see.
At least one we want. LOL
I would think at the top of the 2nd we have a shot at some of the top receiving TEs. Maybe even in R2 P10 not having to do a thing.
Congrats making it out of there Piggy.
Maybe I’m wrong, maybe I’m right… but I see BUST written all over Oklahoma TE Mark Andrews. For the sake of the player, I hope I’m wrong.
Your wrong!
That’s what I fear of Gesicki!!!!!!!!
mf13ss says:
March 17, 2018 at 9:07 pm
Burgess Meredith got caught by Adam West again?!!
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No that was the Wyoming wrestler in the championship!
OH! Props, buddy!
You should be happy It’s a Penn ST VS Ohio ST shoot out! 😦
I don’t follow wresting AT ALL. But I DO know that our PSU wrestlers are a perennial powerhouse. As such, I think it’s pretty nice that a Wyoming wrestler is in the conversation in the championship! 🙂
The more and more I look at Oklahoma’s Offense of ’17, the more I realize that it was BAKER MAYFIELD who made that team, not the other way around.
He really wasn’t surrounded by all of this talent… just as Bucky Brooks falsely stated about Case Keenum, being surrounded by all of this talent in Minny… like WHO?
And I find it laughable that Bucky Brooks would compare Baker to Case, in order to DISS both of them. But the reality is that Baker IS comparable to Case… to the POSITIVE!
Bucky Brooks continues to slip down my board as a credible Draft analyst.
I think OU’s coach had a scheme and the talent to run his scheme that made defensive player’s heads spin. I think a lot of defenses had trouble defending OU’s offense as a whole because of the way they utilized the talent they had and Mayfield was just a part of that offense. I don’t see him as anything special.
I don’t see Gesicki or Andrews being busts. Maybe not all that, but still big receiving options who can make plays and be a weapon in an offense. Don’t look at any of these guys as the main man. Just a cog and one that the league struggles defending as a whole.
WR Stills
WR Parker
WR Wilson/Amendola
TE (pick one)
RB Drake
*Throw Grant in there here and there and we’re loaded with speed and quickness. Hard to defend. Big play opportunities every down. Enough of plodding along.
I’ve gotta run for the evening. PROPS to y’all, and enjoy the night!
GO PHINS!!!
HELL YEAH!!!
Tim Knight says:
March 17, 2018 at 6:40 pm
I asked this on the last blog as a reply to Piggy and he never replied, so I’m asking all of you.
Say after the 4 QBs, Barkley, Chubb, Nelson, Fitzpatrick, Edmunds and Smith, who is a no-brainer for you?
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Hate to say it, especially because I’m not a really big fan of wr’s in the first rd but I think we’re overlooking one guy who could possibly be on their radar for the offense and that is: Calvin Ridley.
Not going for the “hot take” here but I always said that Gase is going to find a way to get the talent surrounding the qb to get the job done and that way he could run with whomever is in there. Ridley is an excellent route runner but also has speed but the route running is the thing, the blue collar thing, that gets wr’s open.
Yeah, we just signed Wilson & Amendola and we have Stills, Parker and a host of other guys but if they feel that Ridley is just a special player at wr then maybe we see a Parker trade and we draft Ridley in the first. With some vets in there we could ease him into the lineup and Amendola is only going to be around two years tops and maybe even one year with $8.25M guaranteed. We’ll see what happens there.
So, IMHO, add him to the mix.
Well I didn’t think we could get in the top 6 with jets at 6 but with the colts there now I think we can if we feel like we need to trade up to get the QB we want
Colts loading up with picks! Lol
I don’t want to see Phins give away the draft to move up. Get a stud @ 11 grab TE in round 2 and go from there. If anything move down, but I don’t think anybody is going to want to come up to 11….unless they are dying for Vea or whatever defensive stud is there.
I think they would move up for the right QB, I just am not sure which one that would be. It’s possible they sit still too, just depends on how things are falling. I do think trade up is a possibility though
I’m not saying that’s what I want them to do, I’m just saying I could see it happening
I think Giants could trade back too just depends on if the Browns are smart and take Barkley with the first pick
Giants need to develop a QB too.
It’s going to be fun watching it unfold.
The thing about moving up for a QB, unless you’re giving multiple 1st RD picks away, if you feel this guy is your franchise QB, make the move. I’d be comfortable with giving up our 2nd RD and next year’s 1st if that would do it. If I had to give up a lot more, I’d pass. No one cares about the picks if the QB plays great.
You think you can grab your TE in the 3rd?
No, I don’t, and it sucks, but you get the QB, you worry about the rest later. If not this draft, you can get one next year, I’m sure there will be a few good prospects. I guess there’s a chance on e of the guys makes it to the 3rd, but if some team grabs one in the 1st, I think the other2 I like won’t make it to the 3rd. It becomes like a chain reaction, they all seem to go quick.
Say it ain’t so!!
I would put TE ahead of QB. That’s just me tho.
Mike E
Moving up means one of these QBs is going to change everything. Who do you see that being?
It’s not me ER, I’m saying if our scouts and FO and Gase all felt that way, they have to do it. I have no such conviction with any of the QB’s this year.
There’s still a good possibility that 4 QBs go in the top 5. Not to mention Buffalo is right behind us with a lot more ammo to move up. It would basically take this year’s draft and a good chunk of next years to get up there. Thanks, but no thanks.
Feel the same. There may be decent options but nobody is head and shoulders great. I just feel with a stud defensive piece, a real TE threat and pick up some good “football” players to add to whatever position, this team can improve easily.
OL is still priority, but they have been addressing it already and I think it’s already better. Plenty of guys to compete at RG, just need to add depth.
Yep, all 4 QBs are good prospects, but I don’t think any are elite. They “may” end up being a Wentz, but all 4 have moderate concerns. …Whether it’s turnovers, accuracy, durability, or just being a wild card.
ER – If we’re surrendering multiple picks, we’re doing this because we think we have our Qb for the net decade. If you hit on the QB, there’s nothing bigger you can do as a franchise than that. None of the TE’s are generational players, but the QB can upgrade your team for a long time. I don’t think TE is nearly as important as a QB. You know damn well how bad I want that TE, but if you can get the QB, you gotta do it, but you have to do it with conviction, you have to have done your homework, and feel strongly this is your guy, not do it because there’s still one of the top 4 QB’s that you don’t love, but it’s a QB.
I don’t think they feel that way. Just my hunch. I’m prob wrong. I think they are committed to RT17 and will look to add a developmental QB.
Shit it’s late, I gotta cut out and get some sleep – ‘Night fellas!
To answer the question earlier, if Nelson, Barkley, Chubb, Fitzpatrick, and the 4 QBs are gone, I would go…
1. Vita Vea-DT
2. Denzel Ward-CB
3. Derwin James-S
Since I believe in drafting OL, DL, and DBs in the first round, I would put my 3 choices above over the LBs too.
I don’t see them moving up for a QB. But if one of the big 4 are there at 11, I think they will jump on him.
I don’t think a QB will be there at 11 for us. I think a trade down is far more likely than a trade up
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Allen, Josh, QB, Wyoming (A)
Round 2 Pick 10: Goedert, Dallas, TE, South Dakota State (A)
Round 3 Pick 9: Penny, Rashaad, RB, San Diego State (A)
Round 4 Pick 23: Brown, Andrew, DT, Virginia (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30: Leonard, Darius, OLB/ILB, South Carolina State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 5: McDermott, KC, OT, Miami (FL) (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: Webb, Damon, SS, Ohio State (A+)
My 5 prospects for R1P11:
1. Josh Allen
2. Josh Rosen
3. Quenton Nelson
4. Tremaine Edmunds
5. Roquan Smith
Let’s just consider something for a second. Do you think there’s a possibility they have gotten tired of the offense being so bad at moving the ball consistently and putting points up? Do you think they want to move the ball more consistently and try to help the defense out by keeping the offense on the field longer and keeping the defense off the field longer?
If so, then why can’t they be looking at Ridley as the BPA at #11? Again, to follow up on my comments above from last night, I think we’ve missed on this possibility. While the LB’s we mention are guys that we’d all love to have and the DT’s make a lot of sense, the team may be looking at HIM and some other guys in this draft as a way to get more weapons on the field to help out their qb and the offense as a whole.
I would NOT be one bit surprised if that’s the way they go. We all want to see them improve the offensive line but I think we could go WR/TE in the 1st and 2nd rds and continue with offensive playmaking positions into the 3rd and even 4th.
Quite frankly I would not be shocked at almost any position on both sides of the ball what we draft in round 1
I like Payne as well,
You masochist!
LOL
If we waste draft picks to move up in the first round I will lose my freaking mind
I think after the moves that have been made they can take anyone that they want!
If it were me I’d be drafting the replacements for next years free agents!
But that is what I’ve been wanting them to do for years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/2019/all/miami-dolphins/
Robert Quinn isn’t a free agent next year
I highly doubt we surrender picks to move up for a QB, The F.O. needs results, Gase has his veteran in Tanny that he just extended for 2 years and his own selected back-up in Fales, moving up losing picks and taking a QB will not buy this F.O. time.
I hope all the QBs are gone by #11 because good talent in other areas will drop to us.
looking at it objectively 2 positions need addressing with a day one starter #1 CB….#2 LBer….with Tankersly, Howard & Mcain it would be nice to add a day one starter to that fold, also LBer, who knows if Mcmillan can get back on the field and play at a high level? anthony is also a question mark. I’m not sure with the loss of Suh we really need to go get a DT early, Phillips God and Vincent should be adequate and it takes time for a rookie DT to learn the position.
Taking Riddely @ 11 I think is also doubtful due to the fact that we have a glut of good wrs but you never know with Gase as he wants to put points on the board .
I would think we go LBer or CB at #11
when you consider that we DON’T put points on the board with what we’ve had at the skill positions I think it’s very highly likely we could go wr/te in the 1st and 2nd rds.
I mean, imagine fielding an offense that has Stills, Parker, Wilson, Amendola, Ridley and Gesicki. Is that offense going to put points up?
If you’re Gase and the guys in the front office and you’re looking at the team and what they need to do wouldn’t you be saying the #1 thing they need to do this season is put more points on the board?
Nobody knows what these quarterbacks will be in 3 years. If you can be optimistic that Tannehill is still going to become better after 6 years why can’t you be just as optimistic about one of these young guys becoming better than you think that he is right now?
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I’m not enamored with any of these quarterbacks, but that doesn’t mean one or all of them doesn’t have a chance to become a top-tier quarterback. With quarterbacks, it’s such a valuable position that sometimes you just have to take a chance because if you don’t you’ll never upgrade the position. No need to hamstring yourself in the draft, but when you’re almost in the top 10 you need to look at your options.
wyoming85 says:
March 17, 2018 at 4:33 pm
HEY Randy!!!!!!!!!
what’s your take on LB JOSEY JEWELL, IOWA
BPA
Just say no to throwing away picks to move up. Stick where you are and take the BPA /BPA at POS of need.
There is not one guy in this draft that is a game changer. Even if there were we are not one piece away
All that being said if some other team is stupid enough to believe they are one piece away and want to give us draft picks to move up and take our slot I say give it to them
Another thing to think about. We’ve heard how many times that the Phins defense if built to play with a lead. In order to play with a lead the team has to score more points. They’re going heavy offense in this draft. Forget the LB’s in the 1st. If Ridley is there in the first and Gesicki in the 2nd they’re going to Miami.
That’s also an argument for taking RB early
The whole time I was thinking Smith or Edmunds in the first and then when they cut Suh I went to Vea or Payne like a lot of others. But, the more I think about it, as you can tell, the more I’m now stuck on an offensive playmaker. There’s plenty of wr’s in this draft but Ridley is in a different zip code. Only obstacle is the Bears.
I don’t like wr’s in the first rd but if Gase is tired of being in the bottom half of the league in scoring points then what he’s got on offense just isn’t going to work for him. He’s going after offensive playmakers. He wants to be able to put points on the board and I can pretty much guarantee the fact they don’t score more points is probably a major issue for him.
Gase doesn’t want to score 25 ppg or 27 ppg. He wants to score 40. He’s not doing that with what he’s got right now. I can easily see this scenario
Gesicki looks good at #88. I’m in!
Those are the throwbacks
anyone looks good
except:
The last time the Jests moved up for a QB, they took Sanchez. May they be just as successful this time.
Lol
It’s really a dumb move
It makes sense if they know they will get their guy
But they don’t know that
Are they saying we will take who we top 3 qb is left instead of just picking one?
Piggy … The Jests just feel pressured to draft one of these top QB’s regardless. They’ll take whoever falls to 6 and then let him rot on the bench as McKown leads them to a thrilling 6-10 finish
Ive been saying for months that these QBs aren’t so bad
The next tier of qbs you can get in 2nd and 3rd are about the same
Mayfield is my favorite
And he is a serious risk to bust
I like Mayfield as well … I’d take a flyer on Mike White in a later round if we don’t go QB at 11
Mike White is probably worth a day 3 pick
FWIW I love the Sitton and Kilgore acquisitions. Getting rid of the co founder of the Aaron Hernandez Fan Club in the process was a bonus.
I will conclude my brief visit by sharing my initial excitement at the prospect of bringing home Chad Henne. I thought I would be able to unload all of this HDS merchandise that I was stuck with …Alas, it was not to be…
Later!!
Some odd rankings helped out a bit
11: R1P11
LB TREMAINE EDMUNDS
VIRGINIA TECH
42: R2P10
DL VITA VEA
WASHINGTON
73: R3P9
TE MIKE GESICKI
PENN STATE
123: R4P23
RB JOHN KELLY
TENNESSEE
131: R4P31
G WILL CLAPP
LOUISIANA STATE
209: R6P35
QB MIKE WHITE
WESTERN KENTUCKY
227: R7P9
TE RYAN IZZO
FLORIDA STATE
229: R7P11
TE IAN THOMAS
INDIANA
Did you use the 3 blind mice Big Board?
Lol
Something called Nachmany Football
Wyoming,
I love Jewell. He is a blue collar, smart, hard nosed guy. But, he is limited athletically. Luckily, he is smart and diagnoses plays fast…which helps him get to spots. He’s also a great leader. That said, I still think he needs to play in a 3-4, so his lack of ideal size/speed can be covered up a bit. His intangibles are off the charts, but his measurables aren’t eye popping.
His size says cover LB but that’s not what I’ve read?
Thanks
Piggy – Isn’t Nachmany 2nd in line in the PLO?
Lou, Ridley is definitely a possibility though I do think he could also go before us.
Wyoming,
He is at his best moving forward. I don’t see him as a cover LB. His lack of speed keeps him from being a lateral guy. He’s a little too slow to cover these quick, little WRs nowadays, and at 6’1”, he will be at a disadvantage covering 6’5” TEs. That’s my guess, anyway. I’m rooting for the kid. He’s a baller.
I think ProfLou has a great Idea regarding Ridley and Gesicki.. It’s all about putting up points !!
Agreed. Gase has hated his own offense since he’s been here so it’s not staying the same.
Well you fix the line, you have your an in place and you can start thinking about premimum players at skill positions
I think it really depends on whether they feel like they should/ need to build defense or not
But if not and they are comfortable with the D that is stacked with pass rushers but has a couple other holes – then I think TE, RB and WR are very much in play early
I think Ridley will be there at 11 and i also tuyou nonjenwould be a great pick
But we do have decent depth right now at WR
If it happens – look for Parker to his the trade block for a future pick
Oh and First.
Huh?
First time I agreed with Lou 😎
Ha!
The problem with drafting Ridley is for some reason I think they wouldn’t want to go TE early if they take a WR. I don’t want any part of that equation. If the choice is Ridley or Gesicki, Goedert or Hurst, I’ll take the TE every time!
I don’t think a TE will be taken in he first 15 picks
I expect to see a TE run between picks 25 – 70
So if we took Ridley at 11, we have a shot at a good TE, maybe our choice of TEs in the 2nd round
I think Lou’s prediction is based on the belief that the dolphins will take both
So if it’s Ridley at 11 – TE is very much in play
If we don’t take a WR early, than what’s the point of taking one at all
Also – it won’t be popular but I can’t drfisntely see Guice at 11
I’m not saying take the TE at #11, I just mean if I had a choice between a WR in RD 1 or a TE in RD 2, I’ll take the TE.
Ridley doesn’t seem explosive at all. I look at a guys 20 YD shuttle as compared to his 40 time, and usually the 20 YD shuttle is close to a .5 sec faster than the 40 time. If it’s not, that means he doesn’t have that explosive 1st step, and it’s not like he’s 6’3 or 6’4, he’s an average height guy. His 4.41shuttle with his 4.43 40 worry me. I understand his tape and career all count too, but that turns me off. He also has a lot of drops.
Watch his tape and his acceleration from a standstill
OK, .5 sec is definitely too large a disparity, but guys who have that short burst quickness usually have a quicker shuttle.
Well that’s a ball-hawking secondary!
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Smith, Roquan, ILB/OLB, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 10: Rudolph, Mason, QB, Oklahoma State (B)
Round 3 Pick 9: Gesicki, Mike, TE, Penn State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 23: Bates III, Jessie, FS, Wake Forest (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30: Walton, Mark, RB, Miami (FL) (A+)
Round 7 Pick 5: McDermott, KC, OT, Miami (FL) (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: Neal, Siran, SS, Jacksonville State (A+)
Like it.
Damien Williams is being courted by the Colts and Chiefs.
The Jets moving up to #3 could be to position themselves for the BPA. If the QB they like is there, Barkley or Chubb. They need also need an edge rusher, they haven’t had one in awhile, and Barkley is the top prospect. Not a bad plan. I hope they get their card in late and fall to #4. LOL
I tried to do some Fanspeak draft simulations and I find them to be so off based on what I’ve read about rankings that I stop before I finish.
Team should have learned their 1st round WR lesson…
I don’t think we’ll draft Ridley. I think the team gives Parker one more shot. We have enough WRs to roll with. Take the BPA and get that TE somehow. I could see us taking a DT – Vea or Payne. Not the only options but won’t be surprised if that’s what we do. The one thing about drafting top DT talent in the 1st is you can get 5 years from them before they get that huge contract if they turn out to be dominant players.