Dolphins news, coaching changes, 2019 season outlook

I feel the need to reiterate a feeling I have made clear previously. So much is going around now with the FLA media about the Dolphins plans to tank the 2019 season. I think this is getting completely overblown. I don’t think for a second that new HC Brian Flores is coming here with a mandate from the owner to try and lose as many games as he can in order to procure a top pick in a QB rich 2020 draft. That AIN’T happening! I really wish that whole idea would just go away. Here’s what I do believe is the mandate, and take it for what it is, just one guy’s opinion.

What I do believe the plan is for 2019, is to not spend big money on free agent players, especially at the QB position. I think we will add our talent in the draft, and not necessarily a 1st RD pick, unless the QB we really want is available at our pick #13. I don’t think we’re going to trade up, I think we’re trying to get this roster as good as it can be, and therefore won’t be trading away any of our draft picks. In fact, my thought is we will be trading a few veteran players that can bring back some value and help us round out a nice haul in this year’s and next year’s draft. Ryan Tannehill, Reshad Jones, Devante Parker, Danny Amendola and Robert Quinn will be offered for trades to give us some additional draft capital. Most importantly, I think we’ll stay away from any free agent QB’s.

If we do as I say, and don’t sign a stopgap QB, that would mean a QB stable of our newly drafted 2019 QB, Luke Falk and Jake Rudock. All this doesn’t mean we’re trying to lose, but realistically, if we follow that path, it’s going to be much harder to win. I felt last season once the entire draft process was over that Baker Mayfield was the best QB in that draft. Mayfield went to a pretty talented CLE roster and only managed 6 wins. Sam Darnold got the Jets 4 wins, Josh Allen 5 wins, and finally Josh Rosen 3 wins. That’s the cream of the crop of what was considered a strong QB class, and the best outcome was 6 wins. What I’m trying to say is, it’s not trying to lose, it’s not easy to win under those circumstances. That’s not tanking, it’s truly rebuilding, and there’s nothing wrong with it.

Sadly, we will say goodbye to our longtime Special Teams coach Darren Rizzi. Unfortunately, once Rizzi interviewed for the HC position here, it made the likelihood of him returning as ST’s coach very slim. A newly hired HC wouldn’t want to compete with a coach who knows the players very well, and one that is already very well liked and respected the players. That’s too much to ask, and after any failure for the team, Rizzi’s name would surface as a replacement, and that just can’t work. The same scenario played out in CLE with Freddie Kitchens and Gregg Williams. Once Kitchens got the HC gig, Williams was out. He was out not because they could find a better DC than Williams, but because of the same conflict.

So 2019 will be a year of responsible team management, and hopefully we won’t fall back into the pitfalls of trying to get that one player that will put us over the top, because no one player can do that. Just get young talent at every position, solidify the roster, and with the purging of the expensive contracts, at some point we will hopefully be competitive and ready to make a playoff run, and at that point we should be flush with cap money to make a couple of important free agent acquisitions that put us over the top. This may happen 2 or 3 years down the line, so this will require patience from the owner Steve Ross, the coaching staff, and of course, the fans. I don’t count on 1 and 3 doing their part by any means, but hopefully, both can pull through as we ascend after finally doing things right here in Miami.


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  1. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    This is my “The ghost of MTP is still here” draft setting up for next year. The store was open and active, trading down 3 times. I got a 2nd and a 3rd for next year too!

    YOUR TEAM
    MIAMI DOLPHINS
    YOUR PICKS
    1: R1P22 CB BYRON MURPHY WASHINGTON
    2: R2P22 C ELGTON JENKINS MISSISSIPPI ST
    3: R2P25 G BOBBY EVANS OKLAHOMA
    4: R3P14 DL MARQUISE COPELAND CINCINNATI
    5: R3P21 DL TERRY BECKNER JR. MISSOURI
    6: R3P38 RB ELIJAH HOLYFIELD GEORGIA
    7: R4P14 G NATE HERBIG STANFORD
    8: R4P22 EDGE BEN BANOGU TEXAS CHRISTIAN
    9: R5P13 EDGE D’ANDRE WALKER GEORGIA
    10: R6P15 LB JOE GILES-HARRIS DUKE
    11: R7P15 G ROSS PIERSCHBACHER ALABAMA

  2. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    When I go to finsmobunleashed.com goes to Pig’s — sorry Wedge’s — great analysis of Ed Oliver. And no link forward to this page. Probably just me doing an OD, but if not wondering if people looking to see there is a new article don’t know.

  3. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Man, being the ghost of MTP is pretty fun!

    8 players in the first 4 rounds PLUS a 2nd and 3rd next year.

  4. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    MARQUISE COPELAND in the third round looked like a steal to me. Hybrid type guy (6’3″ 290) DT/DE with 50 tackles and 4 sacks this year.

  5. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    That’s strange – When I open the website, it goes straight to this article. I think I might be able to fix it though if you guys aren’t.

  6. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Career Stats – 151 tackles, 64 solo, 87 ast, 14 TFL, 4.5 sack, 3 PBU 2 FF

    Copeland is built like a wrecking ball.

    He is wide strong throughout his frame and has surprisingly quick feet first step and get off. Strong, heavy hands and a high motor he could play DT or even 34 DE in the right system. Wll dive to make a play behind the line or from behind

    Could be a great option for a 43 team looking for a top run defender at the DT position while adding insurance at the DE position in 3 and 4 man fronts.

    One of the quickest DT prospects at almost 300 lbs in this very deep 2019 draft. Does not move like a 290 pound D lineman more like a 43 DE edgerusher. Freakish athletic big guy who went from 260 lbs to 290 lbs with very little, if any loss of athletic ability.

    If you were to design a player on a video game to play DT you would create Copeland. A monster force in the middle of a D that can swallow up running backs and disrupt QB’s.

    Of course, he is a better fit as a DT but the fact he could play DE in a pinch especially on run downs is a bonus and GM’s really love a versatile player.

  7. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    If you guys would be so kind as to try going to the site again in 2 minutes, it should go straight here now.

  8. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    He’s my man crush for this season.

  9. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mike, I didn’t say I’m pleased with Harris but I’ve seen guys like him take a few years before they became a force. Everson Griffen, Brandon Graham, Melvin Ingram etc. Harris also missed 5 games this past season so that might have slowed his development. You might not think he’s a building piece but I bet the new coaching staff will think he is.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Its not craxy for pass rushers to come along in year 3

      but right now – we have two glaring holes on the “edges” bc Harris has been disappointing

      missing on Harris so far has a been a huge disappointment for me

  10. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Godchaux, Taylor, Harris, McMillan and Baker along with some of our secondary is a pretty good young nucleus to build on with the defense.

    ****************
    Tim

    I think Godchaux and Taylor are good young players
    but probably better served as part of a rotation – when we parted ways with Suh – the problems up front really piled on.

    McMillan and Baker should be key pieces to the LB unit

    In terms of building I think Harris has to start being viewed as a bust – I’m not cut him, but until he proves himself, the edge position he would have occupied is a hole.

    So whether we are 3-4 or 4-3 or a hybrid or whatever
    I have 2 LB slots filled and maybe 1-2 DL spots filled
    and then some pieces that will help the rotation or might develop into something more than that

    But that’s potentially 4-5 starters up front defensively?
    And if you aren’t spending big on free agency…where else can you do that unless you are using early picks in the draft
    pass rushers are particularly challenging to add

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      With you on that as far as what’s there after next season. Figure either “and edge” (and makes sense they just call it that these days) or a DT is gonna be there in the first three rounds, probably first 2.

  11. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Notable players in the AAF league

    Thomas Duarte, Will Sutton, Scooby Wright, Aaron Murray, Denard Robinson, Blake Sims, Tobias Palmer, Quinton Patton, Christian Hackenberg, Pig Howard, Dallas Thomas, Anthony Johnson, De’Veon Smith, Tre Jackson, Terence Garvin, Jeremiah Poutasi, Will Davis, Logan Woodside, Cyril Richardson, Joey Mbu, Derron Smith, Francis Owusu, Gavin Escobar, Damontre Moore, and Travis Feeney.

    Lots of former Phins on these rosters… and several that some of us wanted to draft.

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  13. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Been thinking still a chance of Tanny staying for next season at least. And a lot of you guys say zero chance,. Mando is pretty darn sure on that too.

    “The Dolphins aren’t planning on letting Ryan Tannehill remain as the starter in 2019, either, by the way. After seven years with the club, the people who run the organization, including owner Stephen Ross, are agreed they are moving on from Tannehill.”

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      A trade would be preferable.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Need a trade partner. Not a whole lot of teams are in need of a QB right now. A lot of teams just invested in young QBs and other teams have established QBs. I think the chances of us releasing Tannehill are greater than a trade but we’ll see. I still think Washington might be his best landing spot. Contracts will have to be worked out though.

  14. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I don’t want to get caught up as if I’m defending Harris all day. We’ll see what happens next season. It will be a big year for him.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      We said that about Parker every season too. I’m not directing this at you, it’s just some people never realize the potential we believe they have.. I hope he kills it this year, that would be ideal.

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  17. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, I think losing Hayes and Taylor hurt us on the DL more than Suh’s departure. That’s when we started signing DL off the street and playing guys like Woodard more often. Taylor was starting to come on.

    But that’s in the past and we’re going to revamp the DL anyway so let’s hope for the best.

  18. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Colin Kaepernick, please go away already. You’re now 31 years old and no team wants you. Yet you and your lawyers are still crying foul. Any chance you had of playing again is gone because you’re still blaming everyone but you. Who the fuck wants someone like that as the leader of their team?

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I saw something about him this morning, I think it was the Today show on NBC. The morons on the panel were saying there’s no way he’s not good enough to be on an NFL roster right now; he’s been to a Super Bowl.

      Well by that same logic, TRENT DILFER.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        These asinine “journalists” are mere SJWs, and refuse to understand the REAL world we live in.

  19. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    The truth of the matter is, Kaep is probably more talented than at least 4 or 5 of the bottom starters, and all of the backups, but at this point, he’s been out of football for 2 years, and his attitude SUCKS, and he will bring a circus wherever he goes. No team wants that kind of attention

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    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Good stuff and now we know why he became a HC candidate and soon to be our HC. This gives you insight into asst. coaches like him that the public knows nothing about. But the people who have been around him know. From a far, we as fans tend to have opinions about this guy and that guy based on very little knowledge. We’ll see how he does as our HC but this article confirms why he’s getting the opportunity.

  22. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Piggy prepared for a round of golf.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Br0FQHWh3VG/

  23. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Mike, with your back to him pretend Adam Gase is standing right behind you and you are picking up Tannehill by the waste and throwing him back to Gase over your right side.
    you have to stay center to hold tannys weight
    if you slide to the right you and tanny will go crumbling down.

    you want to hold your arms in a fixed position and take the club back with your body, all your arms do is lift the club up.
    a little knod to the gods and swing away.
    if you do that correctly you will feel the centrifugal force of the club pulling against you on the way down.

    that and back of left hand down and you’ll be a pro before you know it.

  24. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Mike E. says:
    January 31, 2019 at 12:03 pm
    You’re too easily pleased………….

    THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID!

  25. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    WOW, I didn’t know what a SJW was so I guess I am one…..

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      I googled “what is a SJW” and the first meme that appeared said “if you don’t know what a social justice warrior is you must be one” Huh!? I didn’t even know….

  26. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Piggy, you spend much time in Krasnodar Russia? Looks like the Hilton Garden Inn there is using your image on Instagram. Of course it is SOOOOO OBVIOUSLY a much younger picture of you, it must have been decades ago….

  27. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rock – Once I’m done, I’m deaf. lol

  28. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

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  30. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I think the logic to saving rollover $ is to keep your talent
    then maybe splurge a little if you become a contender
    I don’t think its fool proof

    But our spending has been a bit nonsensical lately
    its a little better then some of the things we have done

    I’m okay using every cent of cap room
    but not if it causes you to let good players go or get strapped with dead money

  31. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Adam Beasley

    @AdamHBeasley
    Wonder what Reshad Jones thinks about #TankSZN
    Does it matter? He is trade bait at this point. Let’s get a 3rd or 4th round pick for him.

  32. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Ugh, Knicks just made a dumbass trade

  33. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Our cap situation is where it is because we were trying to win under Gase. We can create quite a bit of cap relief for this year even though I don’t expect us to be big spenders. Then in 2020 Suh’s dead cap comes off as will some vets we release this offseason. Not sure how we’ll view FA in 2020 because so much more has to happen before we get there. But we’ll likely to have a decent amount of overall cap space and even rollover. But I wouldn’t want to save rollover money to that extent again from 2020/2021. Make the team better in year two of the rebuild. Whether it’s a special player or a few solid pros. We don’t have to act like we’re not doing much for years during this team turnover.

    Year one is the cleansing.
    Year two the direction.
    Year three time to contend.

    That’s three offseasons of FA and the draft along with the new coaches’ way of doing things. FA doesn’t lend itself for 4-5 year rebuilds. 3-5 year contracts are up by then and now you’re replacing players, not building on them.

  34. I would try and trade Tannehill for a 3rd and same goes for Jones. If we could get 3rds for each we could get at least one qb with one of those picks and possibly another offensive lineman with the other.

    I’d be good going into the season with Minkah and TJ at safety for the time being.

  35. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Any player on our team 28 or older is on the table for trades. By the time we contend their contracts are up and/or they’re couple of years older. This ties into what I just posted. You can’t go young keeping a lot of prime/twilight vets on the team. Now’s the time to go young and let the guys in their 2nd, 3rd or 4th seasons be the vets in year three of this transition.

    • Definitely. But how do you feel about Wake? Do you keep him or do you try and trade him/cut him?

      The defense is going to be interesting. Are we going to a 3-4 or staying with a 4-3? If we’re going 3-4 why did we spend so much time with Montez Sweat because he’s a 4-3 end?

      But, you gotta think we’re looking at Harris, Godchaux and Taylor on the d-line with the possibility of Harris moving to OLB/pass rusher in a 3-4 and then Baker and McMillan at ILB. But, Kiko’s best year in Buffalo was also at ILB. Something to consider.

      I’m also not interested in re-signing James unless it’s for a team friendly deal because he really hasn’t proven enough. I wouldn’t back up the truck for him. Make him an offer and if he walks, he walks.

      And not only is anyone 28 or older on the table for trades but it’s time to send some guys packing as well. Bring in new blood and just go from there. Record this year doesn’t matter.

  36. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    2nd best thing about Ross after giving us shade while keeping the heat advantage is carry overs every cent of cap. Many owners do not and pocket the money instead.

  37. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E. says:
    January 31, 2019 at 4:17 pm
    Why, he’s right, or at least he should be right.
    —————
    That’s your opinion, Mike E. I think we get weaker by losing Reshad, and that’s a fact (look at the stats w/ vs w/o Reshad). Methinks you think two in the bush is greater than one in the hand.

    It’s not easy to replace a perennial Pro-Bowler, ya know.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Oh yeah… and Beasley is measly. I really like Adam as a person, but his football acumen is well below sub-par.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        We have his replacement on the roster. T.J. McDonald. By the time we’re a contender, Reshad wouldn’t be with the team anyway.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        I’m looking down the road, not for this season, or maybe not even the next

  38. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E,

    If you’re looking to follow the Jon Gruden template… I can’t deny ya… yes, Reshad may be traded.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      He didn’t invent the rebuild, he’s just the most recent to use it. It’s definitely only my opinion, which is all we have until something else happens. 🙂

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Keep in mind, Buffalo traded away a bunch of players, and everyone said they were going to be terrible, but they were just a little worse than we were.

  39. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I tried to layout the vet age and contract situation for 3 years from now. What is Reshad going to mean to this team the next two years? A very good player, fine. Experience, okay. Then in 2021 when we go into contend mode and he’s not on the team, why did we keep him here the two years prior at his contract?

    Not saying he can’t be on the team in 2019, but if we get a decent offer you take it. If he’s so good he’s gotta be of value for some teams.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      What’s a decent offer?

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      To an NFC team. 😶

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Do you think a tandem like Berry and Reshad would make the Chiefs better on defense? I do! They have the cap space to take him on too. They’re built to be right back next year. Trade our good vets to contending teams that needs a player to make them better. They likely won’t be here when we’re at that point.

  40. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    3rd for Reshad

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      What happens to that 3rd!

      What are the odds we select a player in the 3rd round who will be as good as Reshad has been?

      I think they are pretty slim

  41. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, trading Reshad isn’t because he’s not a good player, it’s because of his contract, his age and his status in 3 years when we’re ready to contend. You can’t be emotional about it. Rebuilding doesn’t mean keeping all your favorite vets.

    I’d take a 3rd even a 4th for Reshad. As a GM I’d be a pain in the ass about a 5th or less and would consider just keeping him. Let the other team give in.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Rebuilding includes the word “build” in it

      You can’t get worse if you want to do that

      Trading good for draft picks bc you want young players is a risky game to play

      There are plenty of teams that keep good players though good and bad times and they end up being an impact when they get good

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Reshad will be 33 in the 2021 season and during a rebuild where you don’t expect to make the playoffs for two years even though you’ll compete and try, why would you have the 2nd highest paid Safety in the game behind Eric Berry?

  42. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Is the team better with Reshad?…. that a non-starter. Who on the team is a better player at his position? Only answer I have to that is John Sifford Denney.

    Only reason you trade him is if total rebuild, but then a day or two ago called him “the canary in the coal mine” on that.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I truly don’t understand your “canary in the coal mine” analogy, as it pertains to Reshad Jones.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Only saying that if Reshad is not on the team next year that means we are in Rock’s blow it up wish. Not sure if was not clear in that or you don’t agree….. and nothing wrong if you. They could part ways with Reshad for other reasons too. No one has a trade price too high.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      STOP THAT RIGHT NOW!

      DENNEY MUST GO!

  43. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Seriously guys and gal, don’t be surprised if we clear out most of the vet players on high salaries, get some cap relief and take on some significant dead cap for 2019, but will clear in 2020 along with Suh. We could be over $80M in cap space by 2020. Forget the draft compensation with some trades. It’s about cap relief, moving on and improving your draft odds, or using some of those extra picks as trade up chips. The more draft picks you have the more options and odds you have. That’s what you need during a rebuild. Lots of competition.

    In the 2021 season, we might only have 7-8 players left from the roster now. Three FA periods and three drafts under a new regime starting in 2019 will do that.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Let’s say we’re in the 2nd rd and the QB we’re high on fell to the 2nd rd. The teams picking early aren’t in the QB market so we pounce before others who may want a QB. Those extra picks from vet trades can be used to trade up and land him without giving up much of our draft. That’s an investment in the future.

      You can’t say blow it up and then retract about veteran players. Rock’s nuclear blast is here with the exception of a few. Time to accept it. LOL

  44. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    the NY Knickerbockers have traded the unicorn to Dallas for a loaf of bread!
    go James Dolan!

    LOL,

  45. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Goodbye Porzingis

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I’m hearing 2 future 1st RD picks, Dennis Smith Jr., and 2 expiring contracts. Knicks will have the ability to sign 2 max contracts this summer

  46. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    My take as well

  47. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    January 31, 2019 at 5:52 pm

    What happens to that 3rd!

    What are the odds we select a player in the 3rd round who will be as good as Reshad has been?

    I think they are pretty slim

    Jones was a fifth round pick. He is 30 YO and probably on his next to last contract. The only reason I picked Jones as a trade target is he has value and is aging. (as if everyone else in the world isn’t, odd expression)

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      Oh, and to answer the question, it is used to pick a younger cheaper player. Hopefully a probowller That’s what a rebuild is about.

  48. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Piggy – Why is it so foreign to you to trade veteran players in a rebuild? It’s universally done in all sports. You get picks to acquire younger players. Of course it’s a crapshoot, but the thinking is you get a younger player that will benefit your team when you’re ready to compete, and shed a large contract as well as an aging player who will really start to decline in value by the time you’re ready to compete.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      If you say what are the odds of us getting a good player, what if we trade that 3rd RD pick and another pick to move up to get a great player this year or next year, if it’s a 2020 pick?

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      It’s the Patriots way too

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Stealers too. They usually let their very good aged players go. It’s smart. Everybody here wants a fucking million guys in the draft, and wants to accumulate draft picks, until they have to give something up to get them. lol

  49. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    M, Piggy – Answer me this . . .

    If we were in this year’s draft, it’s draft day, and Reshad Jones was on another team, considering what the plan is, to rebuild here, would you think we would trade our 3rd pick to acquire Jones from another if he were available? Even if we had an extra one? Would you do it? Be honest

  50. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Anyone else think with all this chatter about the org and most likely the new regime moving on from Tannehill, that it would be strange if he remained? I don’t think he’s anywhere near as bad as some here do, but I do think it’s time for both parties to move on. Both need a new start.

    I will say this in a JK/BB manner, that looking for a 3rd rd pick for a guy who can’t hit the broad side of a barn is kind of greedy. LOL

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I think it would be very strange, and I can’t imagine him being our QB next season

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      Well there is no “Trigger” to have to release him by. I mean he get’s a $25K workout bonus, but they spend the same regardless of when they move on so I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes into camp waiting on a trade. Whatever it takes to get the most value.

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        or if you think the team is desperate for 25k the deadline would be April I guess.

        The team doesn’t despise him the way you guys do.

  51. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Another player who is still young at 26 but a trade option is Stills. I can see us trading him too. A team that wants a proven vet vertical threat. These guys with big contracts are all on the table.

    Year one is the cleansing.
    Year two the direction.
    Year three time to contend.

  52. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E. says:
    January 31, 2019 at 7:33 pm
    M, Piggy – Answer me this . . .

    If we were in this year’s draft, it’s draft day, and Reshad Jones was on another team, considering what the plan is, to rebuild here, would you think we would trade our 3rd pick to acquire Jones from another if he were available? Even if we had an extra one? Would you do it? Be honest
    ————-
    Man, you, use, too, many, commas, in, your, writings! 😉

    I dunno, Mike E. It all is contingent upon the new regime. I suppose Reshad could be up for sale, but it’s merely a fan debate at this point… meaning, we don’t know what we don’t know.

    I mean, I’m not sold on this whole “tanking” idea. Take that for what it may be worth…

  53. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Proud to be a Dolphins fan as the NFL fears Rooney rule violations. Grier, Allen, Flores, Caldwell, Graham etc. Still want to shit on Ross? I don’t get it! Minority hires and mixed race relationships, oh my, why do we care? The Dolphins just set the standard on minority positions of leadership throughout an NFL org., maybe without even knowing they were doing that. LOL

  54. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Damn, I am worse than MTP! Arizona offered up their entire draft plus next year’s 2nd for our #13. I took it.

    YOUR TEAM
    MIAMI DOLPHINS
    YOUR PICKS
    1: R2P1 C ELGTON JENKINS MISSISSIPPI STATE
    2: R2P16 DL JERRY TILLERY NOTRE DAME
    3: R3P1 G DREW SAMIA OKLAHOMA
    4: R3P23 G CONNOR MCGOVERN PENN STATE
    5: R4P1 EDGE JALEN JELKS OREGON
    6: R4P14 LB KENDALL JOSEPH CLEMSON
    7: R4P24 OT MARTEZ IVEY FLORIDA
    8: R5P1 RB QADREE OLLISON PITTSBURGH
    9: R5P13 EDGE D’ANDRE WALKER GEORGIA
    10: R6P15 RB JOSHUA JACOBS ALABAMA
    11: R7P15 DL DEMARCUS CHRISTMAS FLORIDA STATE

  55. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Man, the more I look at it the more I think I like that draft! LOL I’m drinkin though.

  56. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Guys

    We’ve been parting ways with our best players for a few years now
    It funny how we are calling it now a part of a rebuild when it’s the same thing we’ve been doing for years…lol

    It’s been hurting us not helping us

    Throw away all your philosophies of what you think rebuild means

    Putting your best players on the field is going to help you win
    It really is that simple

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Signing guys in their 30’s to keep the season alive was not rebuilding. It was a contend mentality. That’s over in 2019. Compete yes, contend right away, no.

  57. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Man I try to be generally indifferent to most things in this world!

    But Mondo can kiss my dick!!!!!!

  58. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Man, I can’t stop. I think I killed this one with a couple of trade downs.
    YOUR TEAM
    MIAMI DOLPHINS
    PAUSE
    YOUR PICKS
    1: R1P18 CB DEANDRE BAKER GEORGIA
    2: R2P16 C GARRETT BRADBURY NC STATE
    3: R3P14 QB WILL GRIER WVU
    4: R3P16 G BEAU BENZSCHAWEL WISCONSIN
    5: R3P30 EDGE D’ANDRE WALKER GEORGIA
    6: R4P14 RB ELIJAH HOLYFIELD GEORGIA
    7: R4P17 EDGE JALEN JELKS OREGON
    8: R5P13 EDGE JOE JACKSON MIAMI
    9: R5P17 G GARRETT BRUMFIELD LSU
    10: R6P15 WR JAZZ FERGUSON NORTHWESTERN STATE
    11: R7P15 DL KINGSLEY KEKE TEXAS A&M

    Hybrid D coming up

  59. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    This didn’t go the way I wanted

    13: R1P13
    EDGE MONTEZ SWEAT
    MISSISSIPPI STATE
    48: R2P16
    QB WILL GRIER
    WEST VIRGINIA
    78: R3P14
    G BEAU BENZSCHWAEL
    WISCONSIN
    116: R4P14
    EDGE OSHANE XIMINES
    OLD DOMINION
    152: R5P13
    C ERIK MCCOY
    TEXAS A&M
    190: R6P15
    DL DAVID MOA
    BOISE STATE
    231: R7P15
    WR HUNTER RENFROW
    CLEMSON

  60. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I read Mando’s piece

    It’s not a tank as in players intentionally lose games

    It’s an “organic tank” bc we are going with young players

    Wtf dude

  61. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 18 (MINN): Lawrence, Dexter, DT, Clemson (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 14 (WASH): Benzschawel, Beau, OG, Wisconsin (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 16: Allen, Zach, DE, Boston College (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 18 (MINN): Love, Julian, CB, Notre Dame (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 20 (SEA): Lindstrom, Chris, OG, Boston College (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Jackson, Tyree, QB, Buffalo (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 22 (SEA): Bradbury, Garrett, C, North Carolina State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 13: Giles-Harris, Joe, OLB/ILB, Duke (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 21 (SEA): Humphrey, Lil’Jordan, WR, Texas (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Mitchell, Dillon, WR, Oregon (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 17: Cheevers, Hamp, CB, Boston College (A+)

    Pulled an old Belichick but this draft is so loaded early that I decided to build the whole team before 2020. Three OL, two CB, and two DL. Got my favorite QB of this draft and some playmakers in the end. It would never happen but finding 11 picks would be nice.

  62. Reports are that Kyler Murray is still non-committal on whether baseball or football is going to be his thing. Of course, with the draft being a few months away it’s not necessarily critical at this time but when teams are putting together their draft boards and finalizing things it’s going to be necessary for him to have more of a solid idea or his draft stock will plummet.

    IMHO, Murray isn’t worth a 1st rd pick to begin with. If you watch his games from this past season and try to put aside your excitement as a fan and be objective about the situation you’re going to see a lot of wide open wr’s in Oklahoma’s scheme.

    Murray could also be waiting for more of a solid draft grade than he’s currently getting as well. As of now, he’s all over the place with some saying he’ll go first rd and others saying he will drop significantly because of his size. So, there’s that.

    However, If you’re an NFL GM does his lack of commitment one way or another make you proceed with caution or cause you to remove him from your draft board altogether?

    Personally, I think Murray is a great athlete and, while his athleticism may help him overcome some of his size disadvantage at the next level, it’s just not going to be enough. A picture posted by Gil Brandt yesterday of himself, Murray and Dan Marino together, with Murray in the middle, shows just how small the guy really is. One hit could derail his career.

    His actual measurements at the Combine will go a long way to fuel the discussion even more and if he does check in at 5’9″ and 180 or 185lbs it’s going to be tough to ignore his size as something to consider when thinking about drafting him.

    Me? I’m in the Murray shouldn’t go anywhere before the 3rd rd group. If Russell Wilson were in the NFL Draft again it’s easy to say he would probably go in the first rd this time around but we’ve not seen anything like Murray in the past. This is entirely uncharted territory and there is not precedent for a guy of his size playing qb in the NFL.

    So, I’m staying away from the guy in the first two rds. If there’s a mistake to be made, let someone else make it. First rd picks are way too valuable to take a player who could “possibly” help your team. If you have any question about his size then you are not truly convinced and I think that’s enough to say “no”.

  63. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I’m actually pretty excited about the Knicks trade. Looks like they may have finally made the right moves. Time will tell, but it looks like there’s a good plan in place

  64. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    good morning FMUers

  65. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    you will need another guy along with zion, I doubt Leonard has interest LAC, Irving either stays in boston or goes to LA, maybe Jimmy Butler???

    so if your Durant does NY have enough to offer you? what if he wins another ring at Golden state?
    does he leave?

    I’m not sold that Durant would go to the knicks.

  66. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Piggy – They might get burned but it seems like they believe that they have at least Durant, who then will bring someone else in with him, maybe Kyrie Irving

  67. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    For the Star Wars fans.

  68. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    LOL @ Mike E and Phelon!!!
    😆

  69. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E,

    To get back to ya on your question last night, no… I wouldn’t trade a 3rd for Reshad if he was on another team during our ’19 “rebuild”. I see what ya mean, but that also doesn’t mean we should trade him, either… at least IMO. We’ll see what happens.

  70. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I think you have to trade Jones. He is one of the few “aging” vets that has value. In two or three years, he won’t and is likely to have been surpassed by young guns. Age, cost, and current value says trade him.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      You speak the truth and for all the right reasons. I just don’t want to see Reshad go being he’s a fan favorite and team leader.

  71. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    IF we were to trade Reshad, I’d take nothing less than a 2nd rounder. And if we didn’t have Minkah and TJ, I’d say no way.

  72. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Wake may be the only older player I would let stay and then only at vet minimum. But why would he stay? He can certainly find a spot with a contender.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I think Wake would contemplate retirement before leaving Miami… just a hunch. He’s too loyal to our franchise, so I’d expect him back.

  73. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    RT won’t be trade-able unless he agrees to renegotiate his contract. He is going to have to do that regardless, but he probably wants to be able to pick where he goes and he holds all the cards. The team outside that matrix is Dallas. RT is a Texas boy and Dallas could use a high end back up. I could see working a trade with them that RT would renegotiate for.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Good call on Dallas. And some of the rumors coming out of Dallas is that they’re not sure about Dak Prescott being a part of their long-term future.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        I don’t recall where I’d heard that about Dak (I think it was on a game telecast), but I think Dak is doing just fine. But then again, when Jerry Jones is your owner, who knows?

  74. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    What about Carolina? I’ve heard Cam might be out for the 2019 season

  75. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    And fuck Roger Waters.

  76. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I wouldn’t rule out the Redskins, either.

  77. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    M – I heard on NFL radio a while back, say a few weeks ago that Cam may miss the ’19 season. It also may have been before he had the surgery, so that’s possible.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      What I heard came from Cam’s mouth just a few days ago. Again, take it for what it’s worth. Cam’s been known to… shall we say, exaggerate.

  78. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E,

    While I have ya on the line (LOL), have you heard anything about Stephen King beginning work on an “IT, Part 2”?

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      No, but I’d love to see it happen. There should also be a Dark Tower Part II. Not sure if he did plan that or not, but I’d love to see more of that.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Are you talking about King writing a new IT? or are you talking about the follow up to the most recent movie adaptation that only was half he novel?

  79. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E,

  80. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    If they redo The Stand, which I absolutely loved, it needs to be rated R. Do it right, that’s what the material called for.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I couldn’t agree more.

    • D's avatar D says:

      They sure didnt do that with IT, they left out the really twisted shit lol, which i didnt really think fit particularly well in the novel anyways. It seemed out of place, but it did add a creep factor to the book.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Id rather they not do things to completely change the feel of things and take the movie in a different direction from the book but im ok with small adaptations. Im a huge fan of Tolkien but i was pretty ok with Peter Jackson’s changes. The movies were still really enjoyable. I did miss Tom Bombadil though. The hobbit was almost too much though.

  81. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I know a big reason Arians took the Tampa job was he believes in Winston, so not sure about that being a landing spot for Tannehill. he doesn’t have a lot of options as a starter, as a backup he’d have many more opportunities.

  82. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Tim, Waters is asking Maroon5 to kneel in solidarity with Kaepernick.

  83. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  84. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Son, have you seen the Jeff Beck documentary ‘Still on the Run’? If not check it out. It’s awesome.
    His contemporaries like Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, David Gilmour, Rod Stewart, George Martin, Jan Hammer all praise him.

    I didn’t know he co-wrote Superstition with Stevie Wonder. He was in sessions with Wonder and was playing a beat on the drums and Stevie said keep doing that and he started playing the classic riff.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      I haven’t seen it, I’ll look for it. Stevie Ray did a cover up of Superstition that’s really good.
      Beck has a hot chick as his bass player *

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Jeff Beck did the first version of Superstition being he was involved with the rough demo of the song. But yes Stevie Ray’s was awesome. Beck played with him too. Beck played with everyone. He’s a favorite of many guitarists all over the world.

  85. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Waters discussing why he and his band knelt during a performance . . .

    “We did it in solidarity with San Francisco Quarterback Colin Kaepernick’s gesture of protest against the endemic racism and often deadly force meted out by police departments across this land. It was the third Sunday of Colin Kaepernick’s lock out by the NFL. The message was clear, ‘Shut your mouth, boy!’ Next Sunday will be the 36th Sunday he has been locked out of your national game,” Waters wrote in the video’s caption. “This is not a victory for the NFL, it is a defeat, you have denied football fans everywhere the pleasure and the honor of watching one of the greatest quarterbacks who ever played the game, and you have shown your true colors.”

    I think Waters should buy a team and give Kaepernick a huge contract. OR, as an alternative, just STFU!

  86. Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

    Tim,
    I did see it and it was amazing.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Yeah man, it was so great. I don’t think a lot of people realize how influential he was/is with guitar playing, rock’n roll and fusion.

  87. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Tim Kunighut – I was thinking RT as a backup in Tampa. Dallas and Carolina too. I don’t see him getting a shot as starter unless someone goes down. That’s why he will need to renegotiate his contract.

  88. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Phish, the Giants could be in play for Foles too.

  89. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I think Foles is the next Cousins. And there’s alway Flacco out there. He will be on the street if Balmore can’t trade him before the draft.

  90. D's avatar D says:

    Im with you on Jax being a likely spot for Tanny. I think that Foles could be because of his connection with their OC, but with Keenum flop and Cousins not working out year one, im thinking people are going to be more leery of giving a career backup the starting role with a big ass contract too. Washington and Jax are the only two spots i can think of where they might do that, but they might take the cheapest option out of the two as well.

  91. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    You guys ever dealt with professional carpet cleaners? Has to be about the biggest rip off gig around, other than yeah the machines work well. Dudes are in the door for $129 without seeing it and want every kind of add something expensive magical into the machine there is. Wanted $350 to clean the area rug (which basically means same stuff but not attached to the floor). Talked them down to $100 on that, and they were probably laughing about “what a chump” on the way out.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      When we bought or most recent home, we had come of the carpets cleaned by Stanley Steamer. One of the guys asked to use the bathroom in the basement, took a shit and stunk up the basement and first floor for about an hour. LOL

    • Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

      I have and it’s a nightmare. I find it best to rent the machine and do it yourself. Depending on the size of your house it’s only a couple hours work.

  92. Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

    Wait, is Tannehill a Free Agent? I don’t think he is…??? I’d think he’d only be on another team next year if you traded him. Smart personnel move is to let him walk in FA and we’d likely get a decent compensatory pick from it the following year.

    Or maybe I’m missing something. Set me straight if so. I’ve not been very studious this season…

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Not a FA Jahn. Two years left on contract. Chances are cut or maybe like a 5th in trade. Good to see you man…. or maybe should have started with that. How are the suds flowing?

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Lots of buzz that the org is ready to move on from him with the new regime coming in. I think we’re going to see quite a bit of house cleaning.

  93. Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

    Things are going well Stanger. Howzit out your way?

    Don’t you think it’d be better to keep him then if all we’d get was a 5th in trade? It’s not like next year is the year we need cap space. We want cap space in year 3 of a rebuild in all likelihood, so paying a couple of the vets that we can’t trade (so long as we’re not actually going over the cap) isn’t really going to hurt us when we’re ready to compete again.

    If Mike’s right, we won’t be needing cap space for FA this year, so we can take a chance on getting a 3rd in compensatory after he walks.

    One thing is certain, he WILL get a contract to be a starter or compete as one once he walks, so we may as well get something out of that.

    • Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

      Tim, curious of your take on this as well. I understand house cleaning is coming, but I see him as a compensatory asset (possibly)

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Right now it’s all speculation. My gut tells me the org is moving on from Tannehill. We’re likely not going to be big spenders in FA but it doesn’t mean we’re not going to sign some FAs. Most likely mid tier young players that fit with what the new coaches are looking for. I think cap saving begin this offseason. Next year Suh’s dead cap comes off the books as will some of the vets we release this year. I can see us looking to trade a few vets. Whether we can or not I don’t know, but I think they will try.

  94. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Hey Jahn! Yes, we’d have to trade Tannehill, if there are any takers, or we’ll have to cut him outright, which would be unfortunate. I’d hope to get a 3rd or 4th at best, but I’d take anything really. If he’s not in the plans, whatever we get is fine.

  95. D's avatar D says:

    Jahn, do you make a sour at your brewery?

  96. Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

    Hey Mike! Nice article! I think a 3rd or a 4th would merit a trade, but I think we’d get more then a 5th if he were to walk as a FA, so I’d eat his salary and sell tix to the Tannehill jersey owners and try to get that value if you couldn’t trade him for at least a 4th

  97. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Jahn – He would have to be a FA in order for us to get a compensatory pick. If we cut him we get nada

    • Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

      Exactly. So to be clear, my plan was A) Trade him for AT LEAST a 4th, or, if you can’t B) Pay him next year so he’ll walk as a FA. I would not cut him I don’t think.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Ah, gotcha – Whew, 2 more years of Tannehill, as well as 2 years with cap hits of over $25M. I don’t know man, I don’t see it. Doesn’t mean you’re not 100% right though.

  98. Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

    Hey D!

    I am good friends with the guy who makes the sours at Firestone Walker (Barrelworks). In fact I have some of my beer in his barrels over there right now. I make sour beer with him on a very small scale, but I can’t make it at my main facility because it’s too risky that it’d infect my lager or the other clean beers that I sell on a production scale.

    Same reason Firestone does their clean beers in Paso Robles, CA and sour beers in Buelton, CA

    • D's avatar D says:

      Yeah, i had heard that a lot of people do small batches because of that, not having the space to have a full set up just for the sours. Man i love them though. I have been drinking them almost exclusively for the past year or so. There are tons of them on the market right now and one of the package stores in Mobile carries tons of them, i thought maybe id look for yours if you might do distribution out this way. Ill look for Firestone here.

  99. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Jahn – So how is MSpecial doing? How are you and the fam?

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