Dolphins Win!! Defeat Jets 26-18 and are no longer at the bottom of the “tank”

Preston Williams did this twice yesterday, catching 2 TD passes from QB Ryan Fitzpatrick. The Dolphins finally put together a complete game as they held on at home to earn their first victory of the season. I’m sure Brian Flores enjoyed every second of it. The run game never got on track but that didn’t stop Fitzpatrick from using many different receivers to move the ball. It seems almost routine now that Fitzpatrick spreads the ball around and he hit 9 different Dolphins this past Sunday against the Jets. This was easily Fitzpatrick’s best effort as Dolphins QB. He finished the game completing 24 of 36 attempts for 288 yards and 3 TD’s and no interceptions. Pretty impressive, especially considering how woeful our run game was, 24 carries for 50 yards, so it was on Fitzpatrick to make things happen.

I know you all remember the scene last season where Adam Gase was sitting on the bench during a blowout loss all by his lonesome writing up plays on a clipboard or whiteboard. That same scene played itself out again on Sunday, except this time Gase was on the visiting sideline. Strange that it could occur so similarly twice. Gase has totally fallen out of favor (understandably) with Jets fans who are now calling for him to be fired. Not likely to happen as GM Joe Douglas was hand picked by none other than Gase himself, plus he has a 4 year contract the Jets would have to eat as well. He will most likely get another year with a draft that both he and Douglas engineer and then be judged by those results.

Mike Gesicki is improving and he had a big day against the AFC East rivals. Gesicki caught 6 passes for 95 yards and now has a respectable 21 receptions for 248 yards. One huge disappointment however is the fact that he still has no TD receptions. 6’5 250 and a huge wingspan and catch radius plus a 40″ vertical should have lead to at least a few TD’s, right?

The Dolphins defense had 3 sacks and also an INT for DB Jomal Wiltz. No, Charles Harris didn’t get one, it was rookie 1st RD pick Christian Wilkins notching his first sack. Nik Needham throttled Darnold on a delayed blitz where Darnold never saw Needham coming. Davon Godchaux also got his first sack of the season. The run defense was stout enough to contain Bell and Powell and keep that duo under 100 yards for a total of 81 yards.

It was great day in all, any time you beat the Jets, especially a Jets team with Adam Gase at the helm. Keep in mind Gase defeated the Jets twice last year as Dolphins HC but now lost to his former (depleted) squad. That’s gotta hurt! The Dolphins are now one of 3 teams that are 1-7, while the Redskins are 1-8 and the team that is at the bottom of the barrel but the top of the tank is now the Cincinnati Bengals who are 0-8. Odds are we won’t be the first pick, and you know what, that’s just fine with me!



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1,003 Responses to Dolphins Win!! Defeat Jets 26-18 and are no longer at the bottom of the “tank”

  1. wyoming85 says:

  2. wyoming85 says:

    Post it!

  3. son of a son of a shula says:

    I love that Coach Flores got a Gatorade bath

    I love that the patsies got bitch slapped last night

  4. Rockphin says:

    Greenberg is an idiot shill for NY teams. Why anyone would give any credence to anything he says I don’t understand.

  5. naplesfan2010 says:

    Pre Season, a lot of you guys said goals for the season are to just show progress, show improvement over time, find some guys to form a core to build on, and find out if Rosen is the man.

    We are making progress, we are improving (meaning our coaches can coach), and we are finding some players to build with. i am still not sure if we have decided Rosen is not the man. Maybe he is our “best backup in the league guy” our Earl Morrall as needed for our SB run with whoever turns out to be our Franchise QB, drafted in either 2020 or 2021.

    So i’m not happy about the way we lost to Washington at all. But otherwise, the season’s been ok, because losing at home to the jests is anathema.

  6. The Flying Pig says:

  7. Mike E. says:

    Naples – I have no idea what we’ve found out about Rosen other than Fitzpatrick is better prepared. After the first 2 games Fitzpatrick played, I didn’t believe that was the case, and to be fair, Flores didn’t give Rosen a very long leash, he pulled the plug on us at the Redskins game and that was that. I hope they know what they’re doing. I think we may see Rosen again near the end of the season, maybe the last 2 or 3 games.

  8. naplesfan2010 says:

    Mike E
    I personally have not given up on Rosen as our starter going forward.

    To me he still has not been given a fair eval with quality OL and a full complement of skills players.

    Gesicki is a yr 2 TE just waking up, Preston is an UDFA, RB has 2 2nd yr guys and 2 rooks, WR has a semi bust and 2 smurfs to go with UDFAs and whatever Hurns is.

    I think Aaron Rodgers would have trouble with that corps, if his HC, OC, and OL coach were also all first yr guys, oh wait, anyone see the Packers bomb yesterday?

  9. Rockphin says:

    What I have liked that our “no talent” team is we have been showing progress. Out O line which started out with a lower level of talent and then got banged up and banged up again have been playing pretty well.

  10. BailBondMike says:

    What I liked about the Pats game was the Ravens ran it down their throat. That Ravens OL was run blocking like a mofo last night.

  11. wyoming85 says:

    The Sack gets a 9.5!
    The celebration gets a 3! C’mon MAN! 😉

    • CavalierKong says:

      Cut ’em some slack. It’s not like we’ve had a ton of opportunity to show off our celebrations this year. These things take practice, lol.

  12. wyoming85 says:

    This almost got lost in the euphoria!
    Fitz is a funny guy! 🙂

  13. wyoming85 says:

  14. wyoming85 says:

    • stangerx says:

      Not that am for it but Colts are the team that can stop the Texans from making the playoffs…… so if there was ever a game you might not mind losing.

  15. CavalierKong says:

    Lol @ Rob. Hopefully that particular version of the zero blitz gets relegated to the trash pile never to be seen again.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Browns meltdown looking to be on schedule.

    • wyoming85 says:

      PC world!

      • CavalierKong says:

        He was in a Browns uniform tweeting racist death threats from the locker room to a reporter who said his tackling sucked. There is PC, there is stupid PC, then there is just plain stupid.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Well he was threatening people and using racial slurs in n response to criticism about his play

        He was also suspended from Twitter

        I would have cut him too

        If a guys not performing and then attacks other people who point it out to him, it’s an easy decision

  16. wyoming85 says:

    The “Bust” getting some credit today! 😉

  17. stangerx says:

    We still play the Browns (2 wins), Jets (1 win), Giants (2 wins) and Bungles (no wins). Think we should all just get over thinking about the first pick right now. Chance we don’t even hit top 5.

  18. The Flying Pig says:

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  20. The Flying Pig says:

  21. The Flying Pig says:

    • CavalierKong says:

      A lot of reason to be hopeful moving forward into next year. Flores preaches being tough and disciplined and so far he’s walking the walk (unlike so many coaches we’ve seen before him).

  22. wyoming85 says:

  23. wyoming85 says:

    We even got a Q&A on MMQB!

  24. wyoming85 says:

    Let the conspiracy theories loose!

  25. wyoming85 says:

    That would be an interesting fest!

  26. Rockphin says:

    So how goes it today? I had the strangest dream last night. For a minute I thought the Dolphins one yesterday. Weird huh?

  27. Rockphin says:


  28. wyoming85 says:

    Look at Jesse getting some love!

  29. Rockphin says:

    PFF MIA Dolphins
    ‏ @PFF_Dolphins
    20m20 minutes ago

    #Dolphins QB Ryan Fitzpatrick was the highest-graded offensive player in the Week 9 win vs the Jets (86.0 overall)

    31 of Fitzpatrick’s 36 pass attempts came from a clean pocket – in those plays he was 21-31 for 239 yards and 2 touchdowns (91.3 passing grade)💪🏻


    GOOD JOB O Linemen!

  30. Rockphin says:

    yeah, Wy I don’t think that is on the menu at Taco del Grande LOL

    Give me one “special burrito” is NOT what that says. ha ha ha ha

    • wyoming85 says:

      I’m sure that means show! 😉

      It would be better than most of the halftime entertainment I’ve seen in the last few years!

  31. wyoming85 says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 2: Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama (A)
    Round 1 Pick 12: Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa (A)
    Round 1 Pick 22: Julian Okwara, DE/OLB, Notre Dame (B)
    Round 2 Pick 2: AJ Terrell, CB, Clemson (B)
    Round 2 Pick 30: Creed Humphrey, C, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 2: KLavon Chaisson, DE/OLB, LSU (B+)
    Round 4 Pick 17: Brandon Jones, FS/SS, Texas (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 12: Zack Moss, RB, Utah (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 2: Michael Pittman, WR, USC (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 21: Isaiahh Loudermilk, DT, Wisconsin (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 23: TJ Brunson, OLB, South Carolina (A+)

  32. steveccnv says:

    Mike we still control our destiny, as we play the Bengals later this year.

  33. Rockphin says:


    WY I thought it meant Spectacular Burrito LOL

  34. wyoming85 says:


  35. wyoming85 says:

    Are there 3 Allen QB’s now?

  36. wyoming85 says:

    I guess so
    Kyle Allen CAR
    Brandon Allen DEN
    Josh Allen BUF

    And they all won yesterday!

  37. wyoming85 says:

    Interesting for the Stat guys!

  38. Tim Knight says:

    Gase is being destroyed by the NY media. I knew it was coming but after yesterday you knew it would be really bad and it is.

  39. Mike E. says:

    One doesn’t control destiny, destiny controls you

  40. ElephantRider says:

    Just reading how the Fins just blew their season by winning. Fuck the media

  41. D says:

    I think they pulled the plug on Rosen as the starter when the OL was so porous that he wasnt learning anything but to scramble for his life. There was no reason to keep a guy out there that you are trying to develop when there was no way to do that. Fitz doesnt need development and he knows how to handle situations like that better. I think it was a matter of that more so that they didnt like what they saw from Rosen and put Fitz back in and gave up on Rosen.

    • stangerx says:

      With the sample we have so far…. no doubt in my mind that Fitz is better behind a bad O-line. But guess this year we won’t be able to figure out who is better behind a good one.

    • steveccnv says:

      I agree and wrote basically the same thing a couple of weeks ago.

  42. steveccnv says:

    If Greenbag thinks the Fins are tanking, what does that say about his jets?

  43. D says:

    wyoming85 says:
    November 4, 2019 at 1:37 pm

    Interesting for the Stat guys!

    Check out how the catchable ball accuracy data is shaping up through 10 weeks. Burrow and Tua are destroying the field of the 2020 guys. The class as a whole takes care of the ball uncommonly well. Colors are quartiles (of 23) vs my database. Order is green, yellow, orange, red

    — Ian Wharton (@NFLFilmStudy) November 4, 2019
    Burrow is my top guy, i like Tua, i think he has a great bit of gamer in him, and he is very mobile, slippery, etc, BUT i think Burrow is the best overall fit for us. Ehlinger i like a lot too. Eason is a guy id take in the 2nd or later and develop. If right now the draft has 2 top 10 QB’s and they are Herbert and Tua, id be completely ok with us selecting a guy outside the top 10 taking a guy like Burrow or Ehlinger in the mid-late first or Eason or Love in the second. Fromm would be another guy to consider in the first, and i think he could run the offense we are trying to do, but imjust not a fan of his because i dont see a lot of big play ability.

  44. wyoming85 says:


  45. Mike E. says:

    I just read that Williams is out. That really sucks!

  46. D says:

    Apparently Crawford is also on IR?

  47. wyoming85 says:

  48. D says:

    steveccnv says:
    November 4, 2019 at 2:54 pm

    He caught a pass along the sidelines, about the 10 and was out a few plays. Being out for the year means you’ve been marked as a star, and have been put on the shelf, too valuable to continue playing for current team.
    Oh yeah now i remember. Damn. I didnt think it was too serious, though he did look like he was in pain on that play.

  49. steveccnv says:

    We won our 1 game, no reason to win any more. I wonder how the tie breaker with Cin. plays out.

  50. Tim Knight says:

    The reports are that Williams suffered a significant knee injury. It doesn’t sound like they’re just shutting him down but he’ll need surgery and rehab.

  51. CavalierKong says:

    Head to head doesn’t matter in draft spot. I think strength of schedule is the next determining factor after record.

    • CavalierKong says:

      not sure if the Bengals play a tougher schedule than us or not.

      • CavalierKong says:

        We play the Giants, Redskins, and Jets who all really really suck. That’s a good thing. We almost certainly play a weaker schedule than the Bengals which would give us the advantage in seeking the overall #1…as long as we lose to them, but I’m not sure that is going to happen.

    • D says:

      Ok looks like you are right, though if SoS winds up being a tie there are additional rules. We would win SoS right now because they played the tougher teams in the NFC which is offsetting us playing againt the Pats, but by the end of the year with us playing the Pats and Bills a second time, who knows how close it might be

      • D says:

        As of right now the W/L of our opponents is 34/31 and theirs is 43/23. The rest of our season is against teams that are currently 29/37 and their remining opponents are currently 28/37 so its going to be close lol.

  52. stangerx says:

    Cav — Bengals have zero wins and we are one of 4 teams with one. 3 other teams have two unless the Giants win tonight.

    We’ll get a nice pick, but why not leave it at that?

    • D says:

      Its just statements of fact not preference. We were discussing the formula not so much that we think we should tank the season to make sure we get it.

    • CavalierKong says:

      “We’ll get a nice pick, but why not leave it at that?”

      Because people on the board are talking about the possibilities of where we end up in the draft. Is that weird?

      Do you want to talk about Real Housewives of Wherever instead? lol

      • stangerx says:

        Didn’t say was weird at all. Just hoping people don’t get their expectations up and anything in the top 6 is pretty darn good.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I’d much rather win a few than get the number one overall, but I don’t think the people that are thinking the other way are wrong. I get the thinking that if you’re going to suck, get the most out of it. I figure we’ll likely end up around 3 or 4.

  53. CavalierKong says:

    On Real Housewives of Atlanta last night, apparently Kenya relished her new role as mother to daughter Brooklyn; Porsha’s relationship with Dennis hit a rough patch; and a guest showed up at Kandi’s restaurant to reveal shocking news about Dennis; Cynthia is obsessed about getting engaged.

  54. wyoming85 says:

  55. wyoming85 says:

  56. bookman11 says:

    I hate the Jets, so any season without at least those 2 wins is a complete failure regardless of draft positioning!!! LOL

  57. Tim Knight says:

    Omar is being a real jerk today towards fans.

  58. D says:

    I get the idea of not wanting to win just enough to fuck up the draft, but i have a hard time not wanting to win any game. Im competative and by nature im just not in it to lay up. Still i also dont feel like those that feel like this is a rebuild and we might as well set our self up with the best options for rebuild are wrong either. Still this season needs to be about accepting it for what it is, win or lose. We have ammunition to move around the draft if we need to, we have ammunition to puck up FA’s if we need to. It will work out like its going to, putting your own expectations on it only serves to frustrate.

    • Tim Knight says:

      When the season is over we’ll know where we stand and like you said it will be what it is. No point fretting over it.

    • Rockphin says:

      for me it is more like pulling off a bandaid I would rather we suck terribly one year than continue to gasp out shit season after shit season.

      • D says:

        Surely understand that, and we have gone through a whole bunch of it, but i think we will be ok doesn’t matter how it ends up. I doubt we are complaining by the time the draft is over next year. We might (as we always do) see better ways it could have been done but i dont think that by end of FA and draft we wont be happy with the additions to the team.

      • D says:

        Also keep in mind not everything has to be fixed this year, and thats why we have a bunch of picks lined up for next year too, so just gotta be patient.

  59. wyoming85 says:

    Maybe this will make OD feel better?

    • D says:

      Im thinking probably not lol.

      • D says:

        Im thinking the only real happiness OD would find is he got stuck in a Groundhog day type scenario eliving the 1972 SB victory over and over and over again.

      • wyoming85 says:

        He’s got one less game to pay for to boot!

      • wyoming85 says:

        Hell he might be able to afford the recliner section?

      • stangerx says:

        OD is a pretty cool cat. He had seasons in the Orange Bowl and still do es after the rest of his crew gave them up. But yeah he has some strong opinions. Hope you come down our way and get to meet him some day.

      • D says:

        He’s earned his right to them, i dont disparage that, even though a lot of time i wish they weren’t so negative. I like people who openly express their opinions even if i dont agree with them id rather see a person stand up for his beliefs than change them to fit the conversation. Im sure we would get along fine if we were to meet.

  60. wyoming85 says:

    What the ever loving fuck is going on??????

  61. D says:

    Ok so i guess now we get to see what Gaskins has.

  62. D says:

    I was kind of hoping we woulda claimed Donte Moncrief off waivers but looks like Carolina beat us to him.

  63. D says:

    That fucking kick that hit the upright with the bears has seriously damaged Parkey’s confidence. He cant stay on a team. Just got cut by Titans now.

  64. D says:

    Ballgag, Laird and Gaskins. we dont even have a guy on the PS to bring up. Oh wait we do have the Cox we could insert into the lineup……

  65. ElephantRider says:

    I’d cut Walton immediately. He was getting his chance to turn it around. He blew it. See ya

    • stangerx says:

      Funny how one smart person (you) and one knucklehead (me) can see it differently. His troubles before were on different stuff, even if getting caught on this shows lack of judgment again. I ‘d keep him around…. even i f might take a RB in the draft.

      • ElephantRider says:

        Think you have us reversed. 🙂

        I just saw this is from his previous troubles. I thought this was something new that popped up.

        So I now officially change my mind! LOL

  66. Tim Knight says:

    So the NFL decided now’s the time to suspend Walton which isn’t something new but from the past? That’s a shitty process.

  67. Tim Knight says:

    The Miami media harped on the tanking narrative so much since the offseason that now every NFL outlet is repeating it while also saying we didn’t even try to win yesterday so that’s how bad the Jets are. I mean did anyone watch the fuckin game? I am so rooting for win #2.

    There is also a story out there where Tua said if he’s not completely healthy at the end of the season he might stay in school another year. Don’t rebuild your team based on one unknown prospect. Let it play out and act accordingly.

    • Krishna says:

      Again, agreed. Play the cards your dealt and play your fucking heart out…to win.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Exactly! Winning is an important part of creating a new culture. Some pundits in NFL circles get what a tear it down rebuild approach is all about. Others do not and just repeat the same thing. The color commentator in yesterday’s game understood it.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Yesterday one of the studio guys said during the game broadcast (paraphrasing) “well clearly the Dolphins put the tank on hold because they wanted to beat Gase”.

      If you have a huge organizational drive to purposely tank games which will be dificult to implement, piss off fans, and cost the team a lot of money, and everyone is on board, you don’t ‘put it on hold’ to beat your former coach, smmfh.

      Nearly every person on this board has more insight and intelligence talking football, especially Dolphins football, than 90% of the talking heads ever will.

      • CavalierKong says:


      • Tim Knight says:

        The dumb thing about that is there aren’t many players left on the team from last year and Flores and his staff don’t care about beating Gase other than winning a game against an opponent especially a division rival.

  68. Ken says:

    Just glad Pats lost

    • wyoming85 says:

      Gt there ass pounded!
      not just lost! 😉

    • Tim Knight says:

      They played a good team and got smacked around. Now we just need the 49ers to lose. 😉

      • Ken says:

        No we need the Bengals to win

      • Tim Knight says:

        Two different subjects. But I’m not rooting for draft positioning so I don’t pay attention to what other teams are doing. Also who’s the last #1 QB overall to win a Super Bowl?

        We all know it’s not an exact science.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Niners still have two against the Seahawks, one at home against the Packers, as well as games on the road against the Saints and the Ravens, so I think we should be good.

        Bengals on the other hand….

      • Ken says:

        The last #1 overall QB to win a SB was Peyton Manning in 2016

      • Ken says:

        Or you could consider Carson Wentz 2 years ago even though he was injured at the time he was a big part of the Eagles season

  69. Tim Knight says:

    Kong, I’m not concerned with the franchise QB in 2020 if not available. Build a good team anyway. What if we end up with our franchise QB 2-3 years from now. It doesn’t mean we can’t be a fun, competitive team along the way.

    We can’t look at this QB class and specifically Tua as this once in a lifetime thing. It’s not true unless you think only the team Tua is on will win the SB every year from that point on. Lots of the great QBs in the league now are going to be out of the league in the next few years. Father time comes for everyone. There are going to be lots of quality QBs who enter the draft in the next few years. It would also be great to add one when we’re a pretty damn good team. There isn’t only one way to do this.

  70. wyoming85 says:

    I gonna be honest!
    As much as I prepared myself! As much as I understand the re-tooling process!
    As much as all of that makes sense!

    There’s nothing like Victory MONDAY!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

  71. olddolphan says:

    AMEN, KEN, AMEN!!!!
    I HAD YET ANOTHER test this morning just to make sure my lymph nodes (what’s left of them) are not hiding anymore cancer. Then my wife made me ANOTHER APPOINTMENT to upgrade my hearing aids. THEN I’m having TWO CROWNS replaced at the dentist on Friday. Then I see my surgeon for a follow-up on Monday. PLUSSS—I get to take Mrs. OD to more appointments b/c she still is unable to drive!

    HAD TO WORK part of the day Sunday to catch up with my work load, which while me and Mrs. OD have been sick, has risen to a much higher level. Believe me, BOREDOM is not even close to being an issue to me!! Just thankful I’m still able to DO MY WORK!!!

    Got to see nearly all of the Jets-Fins game!! C’mon, all U guys who thought (or HOPED) that GASE would be Ross’s FIRST successful coaching hire – – – aren’t U NOW VERY GLAD WE KICKED HIS ASS!!!!!!! Tim, I remember some very favorable comments you made about GARSE soon after he became Miami’s HC. Well, now that he MAY be fired after this season or next season, I’d like to know if Ross should again hire this bum if and when FLORES gets the boot??? OR would JOE PHILBIN be a better choice???

    ANY DAY both the Jets and the Cheats LOSE is a TRULY GREAT DAY, INDEED. It’s too bad Preston William’s injury put a damper on the celebrations. I feel for the guy.

    OK, we ship out Drake and, after 3 days of practice, he has well over 150 yards rushing and receiving for ARIZONA!!! His chosen replacement gets SUSPENDED for 4 games!!! – – Way to go, Grier, Flores and company!!! Oh, and lets NOT mention Minkah getting 3 picks his first 2 games in Pittsburgh, including a record 96 yard PICK-SIX!!! Guys are shipped-out, have career days with their new teams, and we’re left with draft picks that will be used by proven failures like Grier!!
    AND NO, I DO NOT want replays of “Ground Hog Day” featuring reruns of the Perfect Season. But replays of any one of our PLAYOFF VICTORIES under the leadership of previous owners would be a good start. Unfortunately, that will NEVER HAPPEN as long as Steve Ross and his “DOOFUS BRIGADE” are calling the shots. AND I SURE HOPE I’M WRONG!!!
    FINALLY, ponder this. The Cleveland Browns, who went through 1-15 and 0-16 consecutive seasons while “Blowing Up the Roster,” are NOW, again, “IN THE HUNT” for a VERY high draft pick in Round 1 of the upcoming draft, with JUST 2 WINS going into the 2nd week end of NOVEMBER!! ALL THOSE HIGH DRAFT CHOICES and ALL THOSE FREE AGENT SIGNINGS have, so far, gotten them NOTHING. WHY!!! Because they’ve got the WRONG PEOPLE DOIN’ THE PICKIN’!!!

    Will the CLEVELAND FIASCO be repeated in Miami over the next 2 seasons?? I’d rate the chances at 50-50 if Ross, Grier and Flores are still in their current positions. WE, TOO, LIKE CLEVELAND have the WRONG PEOPLE DOIN’ THE PICKIN. That said, even a blind squirrel
    finds an occasional nut. So we COULD get very lucky in the draft. LUCK IS OUR BEST SHOT AT SUCCESS!!

  72. pheloniusphish says:

    9-7, Wildcard to Super Bowl Champs.

  73. olddolphan says:

    KEN, Wasn’t Eli Manning taken in the first round?? Yes, he wasn’t the first overall pick. But SEVERAL Super Bowl QB’s have been picked in round 1. The bigger question for me is “Will we pick the best available O-Lineman with our 3rd pick in round 1??” Lousy O-Lines lead to beat-up quarterbacks.

    • Ken says:

      But he wasn’t the last #1 overall to win

      • Tim Knight says:

        The last two were Peyton and Eli. Elway in 98 before them. We’re talking #1 overall, not just 1st round. That’s 5 in the last 20 years between 3 QBs. It’s not a lock.

  74. The Flying Pig says:


    I don’t think the suspension of Walton is based on new conduct
    He was arrested 3 times before we signed him
    I think it’s just the nfls ruling now
    I think the organization new it was coming
    So no reason to cut him, it as expect3d

  75. The Flying Pig says:


    I think most of us would like to see the Dolphins focus on the OL this offseason
    I think there is a chance we have 4 new OL by the time day 2 is done in the draft
    But that includes 2 free agents

  76. wyoming85 says:

    OD I wish you and Mrs OD the best!

  77. wyoming85 says:

    It must be an awful felling to have absolutely no hope?
    I don’t see how you can support the team that way?

  78. The Flying Pig says:

    This is my save QB for 2021 draft








    S J.R. REED







  79. CavalierKong says:


    I know where you stand on the 2020 QB hunt, bro. I feel the same way. The Bengals part of my post was in response to Ken. Cheers 🙂

  80. The Flying Pig says:

    People will think it’s to pass on a QB
    But we have 2 first toe under sin 2021 to move up
    And if some of the prospects this year stay in school (and I have my eye on Eason and Love) to join Trevor Lawrence the 2021 class might be very good

    And we can work on on OL and pass rush with those early picks this year

  81. son of a son of a shula says:

    Wentz was the second overall pick behind Goff. Goff took his team to last years Super Bowl.
    Eli was drafted number 1 overall by San Diego then traded to the Giants after the Giants drafted Rivers.

  82. The Flying Pig says:

  83. Tim Knight says:

    The past means nothing. We all know we gutted the roster to completely start over. I like what I’ve seen the last few weeks. Young players fighting for jobs. This current Dolphins team has the least amount of penalties for the least amount of yards in the NFL. Discipline is being established already.

  84. D says:

  85. Tim Knight says:

    OD, what is your problem? Can anyone ever change their mind? Gase is coaching himself out of the league. Okay…, now what? The blow it up is not easy is it? You love to hold people to what they say but you’re never wrong. It’s not becoming.

    • ElephantRider says:

      From what WY wrote earlier and your response….I know why I never bother to read it……
      Broken frickin record.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Some people gain wisdom as they age and continue to learn and grow. Others become certain that what they think is all there is to know. The first become wisemen and teachers, the latter become ideologues and blowhards.

  86. steveccnv says:

    I see the hypocrisy of the NFL, they bitch about tanking, then they wait until Walton is actually playing to suspend him.

    • ElephantRider says:

      I believe we are #4 right now if draft were today. Yet we get all the shit still…..

      Cant wait for Flores and Grier to build this monster!

    • New Age says:

      I don’t think I’ve seen them bitch? Maybe I’m wrong but it’s been mostly talking heads at ESPN etc with agendas. I know the comp comittee may explore it but they are mandated if owners ask them to and why wouldn’t certain owners ask? The timing of the Walton suspension is very weird but our record won’t depend on a RB.

  87. New Age says:

    I think this is the best opportunity we will have for an elite QB. We have a massive number of draft picks, lots of money for FA, at least one top 10 pick, and a very, very good QB group if they come out. I can’t imagine most staying. That gives teams even more time to study their tendencies and their team’s. It’s also a higher chance of injury. Tua, Burrow, and Herbert are legit 1st rounders. They will all be top 10 picks and we need to take one of those 3. I’m not impressed by anything I;ve seen from the rest of the field. Fields and Lawrence look great but we have far fewer picks, less resources and will probably be far better in 2020 I see Cincy taking Tua at #1. I wouldn’t be surprised if we trade down from #3 to #6 and get our guy.

  88. The Flying Pig says:

    The Walton suspension was going to happen the minute he was signed
    I don’t think the team was blindsided by it

  89. ElephantRider says:

    Ok. Fins have the #3 pick as of now.
    I hope they end up closer to 10.

    That’s right. I don’t give a shit about having to have the #1. Let’s let Cleveland get it again. Who cares..


  90. ocalarob says:

    i think laird and gaskins may get some opportunities due to waltons suspension. love to see how laird will fare in real game action.

  91. sb7mvp says:

    The league is doing us a favor by suspending Walton. He wont be missed from the lineup.

  92. Rockphin says:

    Only 24 weeks until the 2020 NFL Draft in Las Vegas

  93. wyoming85 says:

  94. Mike E. says:

    In 1 weekend we lost our most productive WR and RB. That’s a little overblown, but true. It certainly doesn’t help our team any. We were already a depleted roster, now it’s worse. Good thing is we know we have a legit WR for next season in Williams and I suspect we will pick up the option for DeVante Parker as well. No urgent need to draft a WR early.

  95. Mike E. says:

    BTW – Christian Wilkins looks a lot thicker (read heavier) than I remember him looking early on in the season. Is it my imagination?

  96. Rockphin says:

    Mike E. says:
    November 5, 2019 at 8:51 am
    BTW – Christian Wilkins looks a lot thicker

    In camp he was talking about his “summer body” and how he was going to keep it year round because he lives so close to the beach now (Florida) I think he has slipped a little on the Summer Body. LOL

    He was listed as 315 at the combine and the Dolphin’s roster page still lists him as 315……I am guessing is has gained some.

  97. son of a son of a shula says:

    I don’t see it, Wilkins looks the same to me. Typically players lose weight during the season.

  98. Rockphin says:

    ESPN has raised us to #29 in the power rankings after beating the Yets. WoooooHoooo! (just kidding about the wooohooo)

  99. Rockphin says:

    Dolphins QB Ryan Fitzpatrick sets NFL record in 26-18 win over Jets

    Wins as QB of the most teams in NFL history with 7 teams.

  100. CavalierKong says:

    NFL considering a Chargers move to London. I wonder how that would work. They would likely have to schedule their home games in bunches of 3 or 4 so they aren’t flying bakc and forth every week..

    And how lame would it be to share the division with them? All those west coast teams having to fly to London every year.

    On the flip side, the Brits have embraced the game, so I’m sure they would love to have their own team to root for.

  101. Rockphin says:

    HA! This is how “news” becomes news…..the actual quote in the article states

    But The Athletic reporter Vincent Bonsignore quoted sources as saying “the possibility of the Chargers moving to London has been broached among league personnel” and the “Chargers would at least listen if the NFL approached them about about London as a possible option.”

    So it goes from “the possibility has been broached among league personnel” (Probably by the reporter himself!!) and the “Chargers would at least listen” which is to say they haven’t been approached about it and have not said that they would…..

    • CavalierKong says:

      Ahhh, I got taken on that one.

      Not sure what article I read (I think it was MSN), but it didn’t quote anyone, just a general statement of the NFL considering it.

  102. wyoming85 says:

    Mike E. says:
    November 5, 2019 at 9:09 am
    Sure looks like it to me. What do you think? Does he look a lot heavier to you?

    He’s a DT?
    Can they be to big? 😉

    Curmudgeon! 😉

  103. rich0322 says:

    Yea, they were talking about the Chargers to London thing this morning on Dan Patrick. They mentioned some realignment might be necessary if they were to ever do it. One suggestion was moving the Chargers to the AFC East, moving Miami to the AFC south, and moving Houston to the the AFC West.

  104. The Flying Pig says:

    I would much rather be in the afc south than the east
    No more (or much less) cold weather December games

  105. CavalierKong says:

    The Chargers move to LA was stupid to begin with. They won’t be staying there. That city will not support two football teams, and the Chargers will always be the lesser draw.

  106. wyoming85 says:

    Well now I may have to reconsider?
    ( My apologize for posting the Omar tweet! Blame it on Tim!) 😉

  107. wyoming85 says:

    Sorry Son! 😉

  108. wyoming85 says:

  109. wyoming85 says:

    Everyone get out there trade up points charts!

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 4: Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (A)
    Round 1 Pick 17: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU (B+)
    Round 1 Pick 25: Tyler Biadasz, C, Wisconsin (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 4: Bryce Hall, CB, Virginia (A)
    Round 2 Pick 30: Khalid Kareem, DE/OLB, Notre Dame (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 4: Richard LeCounte, FS/SS, Georgia (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Zack Moss, RB, Utah (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 16: Patrick Johnson, DE/OLB, Tulane (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 4: Michael Pittman, WR, USC (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 21: Isaiahh Loudermilk, DT, Wisconsin (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 24: Victor Johnson, OT, Appalachian State (A+)

  110. Mike E. says:

    The day they move us to the AFC South is the day the Patriots start sucking. Guaranteed!

    Says the curmudgeon. 😒

  111. wyoming85 says:

  112. Mike E. says:

    Will Tyler Biadasz be better than Pat Elflein?

    Asking for a friend . . .

  113. wyoming85 says:

    I guess this answers the London question!

    • stangerx says:

      So back to the Jags. A reason why the y have been playing there each year. If comes to it will be them, even if half year.

      • D says:

        Also their owner owns one of the Brit football clubs, so its not a far stretch to think he might like having all his teams in England.

    • D says:

      Incidentally, most the Chargers fans hate him.

    • CavalierKong says:

      “Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, one of the most influential NFL owners and a key figure in the relocation of the Rams and Chargers to Los Angeles after having pushed for a proposal allowing the two teams to relocate and play together in the same stadium, added to the strong denials of the report.”

  114. D says:

    Ok so keep talking Tua and other prospects, what about if someone like Cam Newton was available, Dalton, Trubisky, or Brissett become available in the offseason? Would you take any of them over draftng one of the other guys and use the picks on something else? Do you draft a QB and try to land a guy like Fowler Jr, Bud Dupree, Erik Armstead, Yannick Ngakoue, or Matt Judon in FA? Do do an OL grab in FA and a QB/PR in draft? Just keeping in mind we do have a lot of cap to play with and picks, whats the best strategy for 2020, also keep in mind we could have good cap and picks for 2021 too.

  115. Rockphin says:

    Well Omar, who exactly gives a shit what you want!?!?!?

    Just Say No To Tua

  116. D says:

    I think there is a real chance to trade back this year, especially if we get 1 overall. No one is going to like to hear that we didnt use the 1 overall but i think the Bengals would certain deal with us to get that first overall and get their QB. Dalton is done, they have a lot of tools that are on cheap contracts and they probably want toget something out of players like Mixon and a fading but still potent AJ Green (if they dont trade him for a pick). I could see them doing a deal with us and giving up a future first or a current year second which i would make that deal in a hearbeat to move back, what probably would be 1 spot. If we dont get 1 overall there will probably be opportunity to trade out and pick up picks but at that point we might be giving up shots on Chase Young or Andrew Thomas, etc and im not sure id want to do that.

  117. Rockphin says:

    Panthers place Cam Newton on injured reserve
    General manager Marty Hurney explains the decision to put the quarterback on IR with a foot injury.

    Not much of an explanation needed. When you RUNNING BACK hurts his foot he can’t run so you put him on IR.

  118. wyoming85 says:

    I’m pretty sure we will get at least 1 OL in FA.
    Maybe 2?

    I think it’s going to be a NE type draft!
    Target certain players, and get them no matter the cost!

    Then again maybe they fill the pantry this year, and start that philosophy next year?

  119. wyoming85 says:

    Is this better Mike C? 😉

  120. wyoming85 says:

    I wonder if his replacement is a RB???

  121. wyoming85 says:


  122. wyoming85 says:

  123. D says:

    So much for Nkemdiche they just cut him

  124. The Flying Pig says:

    2: R1P2
    17: R1P17
    23: R1P23
    34: R2P2
    62: R2P30
    66: R3P2
    144: R4P38
    160: R5P16
    172: R5P28
    178: R5P34
    180: R6P2
    200: R6P22
    209: R6P31
    238: R7P25

  125. The Flying Pig says:

    I think I have my new favorite prospect

  126. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, I hear ya but that’s why I said we have to see who we add in FA where I expect us to go after Edge and OL. Top corners are expensive and we already paid X so if you can draft them 1st or 2nd rd and have them for 4-5 years that’s the way to go. We’ll have to pay a top edge guy in FA but I believe we will and I can see us signing a quality OL in FA as well but maybe not the top tier.

  127. Ken says:

    I don’t know where I stand on Fromm anymore. He has had an up and down year

    • New Age says:

      Not a Fromm fan anymore. Too much game manager for a top pick. My sister would hate hearing this, but it’s the truth. Give me Tua, Burrow or even Herbert.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s always about their upside at the next level, not just their college performances. Can they get better at a higher level of competition in time? Whoever the QB is that we draft I hope it’s not a guy with some sort of significant limitation. I’ve seen Fromm’s arm strength questioned but they said the same thing about Daniel Jones and I don’t see it.

  128. The Flying Pig says:

    Here you go Tim

  129. Tim Knight says:

    There are a lot of new faces in the building who know players from their experiences. Flores and his coaches along with Reggie McKenzie who is focused on pro talent while Marvin Allen is Grier’s righthand man for college talent. This is why 2020 is so important. We’ll have too many resources and we can’t fuck it up!

  130. son of a son of a shula says:

    Josh Dobbs might be available soon when Foles is back. He’d be a nice project at this point. He’s your number 2 no matter what happens with Josh Rosen or who we might sign or draft.

  131. ElephantRider says:

    Everybody thinks its Tua or bust. I’m going to love it when Fins trade back.


  132. Rockphin says:

    Son, I’m not picking on you. I am sincerely interested. What the hell is your obsession with Joshua Dobbs? Are you related? Or did you just form an opinion of the kid in high school and are stubbornly sticking by their opinion? What is the allure? Seriously?

    • TryPod says:

      It’s the “Cam Newton” effect, where objects on the TV appear better to some than most others 🤣

    • rich0322 says:

      I can say that Dobbs is an extremely smart kid. I’m talking Ivy League smart. Great character too. I watched a lot of his games at Tennessee. That was before Tennessee started losing every single week in the SEC.

  133. The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t really get the Tua or bust crowd

    I think he’s the #1 overall prospect too
    But I also think it’s silly to think the future of your franchises hinges on 1 prospect

    We are in great position to significantly improve up front
    We are going to have 4 picks in the top 40 – that’s huge

    • TryPod says:

      Where I may diverge from you is that I’m not sure he is the definitive #1 prospect based on his ability alone. I think the fact that he plays for arguably the premier football program over the last decade or so elevates his apparent skill set.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        He’s the premier player on the premier football team
        He totally changed the way Alabama offense is run

    • TryPod says:

      I don’t think that makes him the best player for an NFL team to put a #1 on him. He very well may be, but it doesn’t make him so, and I don’t think he is. And again, his performance against comparable competition did not have him standing out.

      • TryPod says:

        I say all this while I also concede he very well may be a great NFL player, and if it’s for the Dolphins, all the better.

  134. Mike E. says:

    Wyo – Are you scared of losing Cole to the Yankees or Angels?

    • wyoming85 says:

      Well who doesn’t want to keep the best pitcher in the game instead of letting your rivals get him!

      But then again, they didn’t win it with him either!

      I don’t know how much it’s gonna cost, but the Astro’s have offered him 17 mil / year. to start the negotiations.

      We’ll see how it goes?

      • Mike E. says:

        They’re going to have to go farther north to sign him. I would think more than $20M, maybe close to $30M

  135. pheloniusphish says:

    Piggy, I think you are correct. If a team thinks any one pick will make or break there team, they’ve already broken it.

  136. Mike E. says:

    Piggy – That list of CB’s doesn’t overwhelm me. There’s not one guy I’d go all out to get. I think we’ll grab one or two in the draft and then find some no name guy who has the skill set we like in FA, maybe he’s not even on that list

    • rich0322 says:

      Yea, I’m on record in wanting the secondary to be one of our priorities this FA/draft. I think drafting a CB and safety early plus signing a CB and safety in FA should be the focus. We need major depth, so we are talking 4 CB min and 3 safeties that can contribute on the spot without us saying oh we’re in trouble now with so and so hurt. Flexibility is a major plus too with the DBs.

  137. Mike E. says:

    Wyo – Dude was 35-10 the last 2 years. They didn’t win this year, but it wasn’t because of Cole.

    • wyoming85 says:

      I love the way Cole pitches!
      Quick to the plate!
      There it is ,hit it if you can!

      They like him! He likes it here!

      I don’t know if we can outbid the Stankee’s?

      I’m actually more worried he’ll end on the Redsocks!

  138. wyoming85 says:

    Senior TCU right tackle Lucas Niang will reportedly undergo surgery to repair a torn hip labrum, ending his season.
    I don’t know if we want to take that much of a chance on an OL with Hip issues?

  139. wyoming85 says:

    The Trevor Lawrence draft
    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 4: Chase Young, DE/OLB, Ohio State (A)
    Round 1 Pick 17: Grant Delpit, FS/SS, LSU (A+)
    Round 1 Pick 25: Tyler Biadasz, C, Wisconsin (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 4: DAndre Swift, RB, Georgia (A)
    Round 2 Pick 30: Calvin Throckmorton, OT, Oregon (A)
    Round 3 Pick 4: Jeffrey Okudah, CB, Ohio State (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Brandon Jones, FS/SS, Texas (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 16: Carter Coughlin, DE/OLB, Minnesota (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 4: Michael Pittman, WR, USC (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 21: Isaiahh Loudermilk, DT, Wisconsin (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 24: Steve Nielsen, OT, Eastern Michigan (A+)

  140. New Age says:

    Tua is the best QB available but there are others. As Tim pointed out, we have 4 top 40 picks. We’ll be just fine.

    I’m sickened to see Cincy tanking with no one in the media calling them on it. We’ve heard it for 6 months+ and suddenly it was a misconception that was somehow going around. It was a media pushed agenda that is still being pushed by the clowns in Miami. No wonder the media has issues with many in the public. Snake oil salesmen eventually are discovered.

    • TryPod says:

      This may be (Tua being the best QB available), but this does not mean he is a worthy #1 or an NFL starter. And this is me addresing different discussions I’ve had about him, not a response directed at you or anyone in particular.

  141. stangerx says:

    Phins are 9.5 dogs to the Colts. Call me crazy, but I call that line giving us a little more respect. Game is in Indy and the Colts are 5-3.

  142. The Flying Pig says:


    A torn labrum is not really a hip issue. It’s the tissue that holds the bone in – I know bc I have the same injury and I manage to trot around the barn just fine

    Actually it’s a common injury in sports, I think AROD has it too and recovered

    When I had mine I did physical therapy but that’s bc I’m not an athlete (except in my fantasies) but when you do the surgery and shut down for a season – they surgically reconnect the tissue

    I think an injury like that does drop someone’s stock
    But a late 2nd round or an early 3rd for an OT that would otherwise have a 1st round grade seems fair

    • wyoming85 says:

      Don’t get me wrong I like the guy!

      Just don’t know if Flores will through his net that far?

    • D says:

      It depends on the severity of the tear, and how obstructing it is to the rotation in the socket. I saw a friend of mine who had to have surgery because of his and they recorded the surgery and it can be pretty nasty. It just depends on the severity but it can be something that very hard to recover from as well. Also that was the start of Pouncey’s issues here. He wasnt right after so it really depends a lot on the recovery, the surgeon, etc.

  143. The Flying Pig says:

    Me doing physical therapy

  144. Rockphin says:

    wyoming, You better trade some of that first round capital from this year for future picks next year if you think you are going to get Lawrence next year. Unless we purposely tank next year we will have to trade 1/2 our picks to get up to #1 next season to take Lawrence.

  145. wyoming85 says:

  146. D says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 4: Chase Young, DE/OLB, Ohio State (A)
    Round 1 Pick 17: Alex Leatherwood, OG/OT, Alabama (B)
    Round 1 Pick 25: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 6 (NYG): Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU (A)
    Round 2 Pick 30: Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 4: Travis Etienne, RB, Clemson (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 6 (NYG): Solomon Kindley, OG, Georgia (A)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Glen Logan, DT, LSU (A)
    Round 5 Pick 16: Jordan Fuller, FS/SS, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 4: Cameron Dantzler, CB, Mississippi State (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 21: Stephen Guidry, WR, Mississippi State (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 24: Lamical Perine, RB, Florida (A+)

    • The Flying Pig says:

      That’s pretty good with leatherwood, a prince and Kindley

      But we all know Burrow won’t last to 25

      • D says:

        I started to take Burrow at Leatherwoods spot just to be more legit, but the draft gave him to me anyways, Herbert was also on the board thats why i gambled.

  147. wyoming85 says:

    He reminds me of Landry with his effort after the catch!

  148. wyoming85 says:

    We have enough picks, we can get the #1 RB!

  149. wyoming85 says:

    Or if you want to go bargain shopping!

    I even think ORob would like him!

  150. TryPod says:

    I know I root for them, but RB Feaster on the Gamecocks is worthy of looking at. He is easily 1/2 of the offense (and is a transfer from Clemson after 2 national championships), the other half being Edwards at WR, who I see as very productive in an offense that needs a receiver that is willing to do the dirty work.

  151. D says:

    There are enough Rb’s there is going to be talent deep. Perine is a really good back and im sure he is a 4-6 round guy (even though First Pick gave him to me in the 7th.

    • D says:

      Swift is good, but Etienne, Hubbard, Dobbins, Taylor, etc are all pretty dynamic players. You also have Akers, who is on a shitty team but is still a solid player, Perine, Harris, Hill from MSU, and the human bulldozer Keshawn Vaughn

  152. D says:

    ORob would like Vaughn he flattens people when he runs.

  153. Mike E. says:

    Sonny, when you say #2 . . . Lol

  154. wyoming85 says:

  155. wyoming85 says:

    • wyoming85 says:

      Dane Brugler
      I don’t use “elite” often, but his contact balance and run toughness…
      Lance Zierlein
      Replying to
      He’s like a cement truck
      2:11 PM · Nov 6, 2019·Twitter Web App
      Dane Brugler
      Replying to
      When he wants to be. But then he can also break out a lateral juke too. Medicals are the only thing keeping him from being a top-40 pick.

  156. wyoming85 says:

  157. D says:

    Try, Feaster is good, he put up 175 on UF and we are usually a good run stopping defense (though this year seems to be hit or miss how we wrap up on tackling). He averaged like 7 run. Swift only got a little over 3 a rush with a total of 86. He seems to be sliding under the radar. I bet he elects to attend the Senior Bowl and will get some attention there.

    • TryPod says:

      I might be more intrigued by Edwards from that team, but you see what I’ve seen. The kid is good, runs North-South, doesn’t shy from contact, but doesn’t look for it, either. Not a speedster, but seems to get the most from his touches.

  158. The Flying Pig says:


    Zach Moss is originally from Miami (Hialeah)

    Honestly he looks more like a 3 down back than guys like Etienne who reminds me a Reggie a bush type

  159. Rockphin says:

    I feel like I failed in this draft because I didn’t get us any guards

  160. wyoming85 says:

    • D says:

      Yeah i had him at least one of my lists during the draft process. He’s got the ability, but being cut as a 4th round pick….something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

  161. wyoming85 says:

  162. Ken says:

    What’s up mob?

  163. olddolphan says:

    SOOO-o-O WHO’S GOING TO BE our back-up QB for 2020? We could, and we HAVE, done a lot worse than FitzMagic as our #2 QB. Kinda doubt he’ll be here, given we’ll be in year 2 (or is it year 11?) of rebuild mode. But if he keeps playing near his current level, SOMEONE is going to give him a shot.
    LOCAL GATOR FAN here in Tampa Bay told me “there’s a LOT of interest in young Mr. Trask. Several scouts have been checking him out since he became Florida’s starting QB. My guess is that with so many NFL teams in need of a QB, Trask will be drafted well above where he should be taken. His moxie and attitude will be a plus come draft day. And his ability to play well in big SEC games won’t hurt his chances, either.
    I NOTICED THAT many of you board members are selecting O-Linemen in the first two rounds of our 2020 draft. I’d be THRILLED if we took the best O-line guy available with our third first round pick. I’m thinking QB first pick and best defensive player available with our second first round pick. NOW, if we could just get MF-13 or Mike E. to do the picking, we’d be WELL AHEAD of where we’ve been the last several drafts.
    I’m SURE there are several folks on this board who could do a better job than we’re used to having the last 11 seasons.

  164. olddolphan says:

    YOUNG STANGER: The loss of Preston Wilson will really hurt our passing game. And I’m NOT sold on Ballage as our top RB for this game, either. I think we’re in Deep Shit on this game!

  165. Rockphin says:

    Damn, Tankersly going from PUP list to IR for the rest of the season. We may never see him again in a dolphins uniform. I had hope for the kid.

  166. Mike E. says:

    I like my new job, I really like the people I work with, the staff is so helpful and they’re all really nice. On the other hand, I am so busy at work my head spins sometimes. The day sure goes by a lot quicker too, so there’s that.

    • D says:

      Thats because you are the old turd going down the new high efficiency toilet bowl. The cyclonic action is just too much for your old, just floating along, ways.

      • Mike E. says:

        Yeah, I don’t think that’s the case. It’s just a very busy place that needs 2 people and for the most part I’ve been working alone. I was under the impression it was going to be 2 of us most of the time and I’ve been seeing that now it’s mostly going to be a one man show. They said they may hire someone in December or January and I really hope they do. I need help.

    • stangerx says:

      Glad you like the new place. And putting the bright side on it — having to get one thing after the other done sure does make that clock go. Only problem is if you get in frenzy mode with more to do than you can handle.

      • Mike E. says:

        That’s exactly what the issue is. There are times, just like last night, where the customers come out of the exam rooms fast and furious and we get a few walk ins to buy glasses or contacts and then all of a sudden I have 6-10 orders to process with insurance as well, and no time to put them in. That just puts a lot of pressure on me because it takes so much more time to process orders with insurance and I know I’m going to be keeping someone late to wait for me to finish up.

      • stangerx says:

        If becomes a regular problem point it out to your bosses. I would do it in a “our customers are getting the service they deserve” way. Makes you the selfless company guy.

      • stangerx says:

        Sorry — “are not” getting…..

  167. stangerx says:

    Rock — why do you say we may never see Tankersley again in a dolphins uniform? You thinking his recovery was as far as it cold get and he still didn’t have it? I was thinking let him rest till camp.

    • Mike E. says:

      He’s under contract next season, so we’ll have another chance to see how he is fully healthy. It will also be a contract year for him so he will have even more incentive to show up and play well.

    • Rockphin says:

      It’s just the nature of the NFL sometimes. I may be wrong, but Tank wasn’t this new coaching staff’s guy, wasn’t able to get back this season. It has been a year since the injury. I just think if he was able to show anything we would have kept him and not be signing all these guys off the street and practice squads.

      • Mike E. says:

        Maybe his recovery didn’t go as well as expected and he just wasn’t ready. Rather than putting him in a situation where he wouldn’t be able to perform well they’re willing to wait until next season. That makes sense to me.

  168. Rockphin says:

    Mike you may be right. If they activated him off of PUP they could only cut him or put him on IR. Instead they gave him his 3 weeks of practice that is allowed by the league and then put him on IR and they keep his rights.

  169. The Flying Pig says:


    Next time your head spins at work bc you are so busy
    Do what I do

    Take off your pants

    You will feel free of the stress and your coworkers will know that you are someone to be reckoned with…they may be so impressed that they call the police!

    That’s showing them!

  170. stangerx says:

    Something is just wrong with Anotonio Brown. Thinking mental illness. My response would be Imagine a system that gave you all those millions.
    Imagine conforming to a system giving it a 100 percent to see them treat me like this is unfairly ! Making money off my sweat and blood Fuck the @nfl I’ll never play in that shit treat black people the worse! Clear my name and go fuck your self
    11:59 AM – Nov 7, 2019

    • Tim Knight says:

      He’s got a way with words. Yikes! Yeah the NFL treated him awful with all that money and fame. Now go away!

    • CavalierKong says:

      LOL, I’m sure his life would be so much better, and he would command so much more respect, if he’d never played in the NFL. There’s always room for illiterate narcissists at McDonald’s, Taco Bell, Wendy’s, etc…

      • CavalierKong says:

        ‏Verified account
        Nov 6
        baangin out another dobble wopper wit cheese! Thes uniform is fly!

  171. steveccnv says:

    Poor guy, the NFL gave him chance after chance, despite how he treated everyone around him. In any other job he’d be sweeping the floors.

  172. steveccnv says:

    There’s a reason you don’t see this BS in the NHL.

  173. Tim Knight says:

    Why not let Tank compete in camp next year. What’s the harm in that? It wasn’t performance, he was coming off of season ending knee surgery in 2018 and recovery is different for everyone.

  174. Mike E. says:

    LOL @ Kong!

  175. Tim Knight says:

    The players who are going to suit up just go out there and compete and do your job. Your performance is your resume. The rest of the league is watching.

  176. D says:

    The more you read about the CBA and the different rules regarding things like IR/IR with designation, NFI, etc the more you realize there is a clever little chess match going on behind the scenes with these designation that have a lot more to do with contract negotiation strategy than just putting an injured player on the correct list or “stashing” a player.

    • D says:

      As a for example, recently Trent Williams who was holding out, attempted to report to the team in a way that he could still accrue a year on his contract. The Redskins then, due to the discovery of the tumor or whatever it ws, put him on the NFI IR because the discovery occurred outside of when they were playing making it a NFI. Because he is on NFI, he accrues no time on his contract. So basically they kept him from losing a year on his contrct, which helps them be able to trade him for more when next year rolls around.

    • Tim Knight says:

      That’s why you see things happen that the media and fans don’t understand but have major opinions about it. Not all teams make good decisions but none of them do things without a reason.

  177. Tim Knight says:

    Just putting this out there. LOL

  178. Rockphin says:

    Tim, I agree they should let him compete next camp. I just don’t feel they will. Because I like him. It’s akin to Piggy buying a jersey. Kiss of death

  179. Tim Knight says:

    Let’s be honest, Tua has had durability issues in his college career. He’s going to face much more fierce competition at the NFL level every week. The Alabama pedigree scares me about him.

  180. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – My direct boss is aware of the situation and he wants to hire someone. However, he has got some friction from the big boss who owns the practice, he’s not quite ready to hire another Optician at the moment. I think I may have to put it out there myself to the big guy to test the waters, especially with the end of the year coming, which means a shit ton of people using up their insurance and flex spending money.

    • stangerx says:

      Just come hat in hand to the big guy and say you feel bad about not being able to take care of the customers properly. He’ll either take it from there or he won’t.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      It sounds like you need a paper pusher/button pusher more so than another optician. Good luck, glad to hear you enjoy it there.

  181. son of a son of a shula says:

    Bob Stoops to Florida State? 🤷‍♂️

    They’d be lucky

  182. Mike E. says:

    Sonny – I can see why you’d think that, and in a way you’re probably right, but a button pusher would have to learn an awful lot about optical to be able to put the orders in and submit the insurance. We really need an Optician, because if one Optician calls out it wreaks havoc on everyone and leaves one office w/o an Optician. That’s another reason to hire one.

  183. The Flying Pig says:

    This little Piggy 🐷 is drooling over the stats of Tua, Burrow and Herbert

    Yes stats aren’t everything
    But they are something
    And each of these 3 QBs don’t turn the ball over much and throw for a high comp %

    Some dismiss it as college
    But but go back and compare there stats to guys like Rosen, Darnold or Allen

    They are a cut above

    I hear people pick one all the time and wrote off another one
    And I don’t get it at all

    This appears to be a very good QB class

    Can we get a good one a build around that QB?

    We have the ammo to do that

    • Mike E. says:

      I think the most important thing is not to fall in love with one guy and do anything and everything to get him, especially if we have them rated pretty closely. I suppose if we have Tua rated that much higher than the others that would change the situation, but if they’re close, just get one of those guys w/o trading up and then kill the rest of the draft with OL and pass rushers, CB, etc.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Yeah exactly

        Those other three spots are screaming 😱 for help

        If you walk away from the draft with a QB, OL, Edge and CB in the first 40 picks that will be quite a success

  184. The Flying Pig says:

  185. Mike E. says:

    Thought it was interesting yesterday, I was in the car listening to Jim Miller and Pat Kirwan and they were talking about the draft. This goes go back to the whole BPA vs NEED discussion. Miller was saying teams definitely draft need. When teams have a significant need at a position they address it, whether that player is the best on the board overall or not. I have to agree with this. I think because of the need yo have to accomplish what you want at any given spot, whether it’s QB, DE or OL, you go and get that player at that position that does that for your team.

  186. dbolt48 says:

    Mike E. says:
    November 8, 2019 at 8:47 am
    I think the most important thing is not to fall in love with one guy and do anything and everything to get him, especially if we have them rated pretty closely. I suppose if we have Tua rated that much higher than the others that would change the situation, but if they’re close, just get one of those guys w/o trading up and then kill the rest of the draft with OL and pass rushers, CB, etc.

    This was an excellent post Mike! I’ll really be interested to see how Mia goes about the position. Do they go after an immense physical talent who’s shown the awareness that he needs improvement and continues to do so. He’s not as mentally sharp on the field as some prospects, but he’s not a dummy & continues to improve.

    Do they go after a football mental wizard who’s physical traits are good enough to excel in the league. Someone who pre-snap knows exactly what the D is doing and can take adavantage of that 90% of the time.

  187. bailbondmike says:

    Look at the OL Tua has and not to mention his WR’s. Probably his 3 WR’s go in first 2 rounds (maybe 3). He can make all the throws but I have not seen any great anticipation throws by him which is why he has to scramble and extend plays. He is really good in that regard otherwise we would not even be talking about him. Burrow does that very well every game.
    “Breaking out after an incredible primetime performance on the road against Texas in Week 2, the LSU quarterback has continued playing at an elite level the whole year. He is an extremely accurate thrower who times his passes perfectly and throws with a sharp sense of anticipation. He can throw a precise deep ball and has good touch on nearly every one of his throws.

    Burrow excels at a lot of the little things, which is exactly what a lot of prospects struggle with coming out of college. He has admirable pocket presence, as he can maneuver defenders well in the pocket, and his accuracy is relatively unfazed by incoming pass rushers. He has shown that he can calmly go through his progressions, look past his first read and make the intelligent throw. Burrow’s upper-body mechanics are just about perfect, as he throws with a quick and crisp throwing motion and has a high enough release.

    Bottom Line

    Nobody has improved their draft stock over the course of the 2019 season quite like Joe Burrow has. With his pinpoint accuracy, impressive decision-making and superb poise, he has all of the makings of a long-term starter in the NFL. A legitimate argument could be made that he should be the first overall pick in 2020.

    Projection: Top 3

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I actually think Tua does the little things well. I actually think he’s drool-worthy in this regard.

      I was actually discussing that with Ken at the Fest a few weeks ago

      Yeah Tua is surrounded by talent
      But can you say that LSU isn’t stacked too?

      Actually looking at a lot of the current crop of QBs, most of them have pretty good OLs or weapons or both

      Lawrence/Clemson (I know he’s staying in school) has Higgins and Etinienne
      Oregon/Herbert has one of the best OLs in college
      Fromm/GA plays behind the best LT in college and hands off to the best RB
      Eason/Washington has Trey Adams blocking for him
      Jalen Hurts/OK takes his snaps from one of the two best if not the best centers in college and throws to Ceedee Lamb

      Maybe we should start giving Jordan Love more credit bc Utah State is a JV team relative to the others…lol

      I have a tough time looking at the talent around these guys as a negative, albeit I do give Love credit for being at a small school without much talent

      • TryPod says:

        Manti Tu’a? I kid, I think he is a better prospect, but the hype is similar. I’ll probably be wrong, he’ll be great, but I don’t see what others seem to as far as his being the best QB prospect this cycle.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        He’s just dreamy!

        (Piggy gazes into the sky and flutters his eyelids)

      • TryPod says:

        That’s it- I haven’t gazed into his eyes long enough to get the warm fuzzies. I’ll watch more closely this weekend.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        🎶🎶🎶OH dream weaver🎶🎶🎶
        🎶🎶🎶I need you to get me through the season🎶🎶🎶

  188. stangerx says:

    Dolphins got a streak going ….. 4-0 against the spread in the last games.
    Guess that is one way to start winning a bit more respect.

  189. stangerx says:

    In the after the burn to the ground year, we’ve talked about finding players for the future. But not all are UDFAs or low-end draft choices getting a chance to play.

    We re-signed DeVante Parker on the relative cheap too. Have him inked for $5 mil next year. Looking like a good move now. Sure won’t be a cut candidate at least.

  190. TryPod says:

    I’m hoping we’ll be able to go BPA for our draft as it seems we could use an infusion of talent pretty much everywhere. If it’s Tua, fine, I like the kid from Ohio State, too, and we could certainly use some line help.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      We will get a good player if we pick in the top 5

      I’m a little worried about the “we should have done this” crowd after the draft

      I’m ranking them in terms of my preference, but there is this psychological effect of people picking their favorite and 💩ing In everyone else that’s frustrating me

      It’s a little more more prevalent on social media than on this blog

      Before the season I thought there would be a debate between Tua and Herbert as the top prospect
      Tua pulled away early in the season
      But a 3rd QB entered the discussion as a possible top pick

      And when you look at those 3 prospects, there’s a lot to like

      So having 3 picks and having – first tier of QB prospects (rather than 1 guys to covet) kinda makes more sense to me and makes me optimistic

      Plus I don’t have to buy into this lose every game logic to get a franchise QB

  191. wyoming85 says:

  192. steveccnv says:

    When I heard the Bengals hired Taylor, this is what I thought about him.

    Omar Kelly

    The Bengals aren’t tanking. They are just horrible and poorly coached. I have no idea who meets Zac Taylor and thinks he’s a head coach. I don’t expect Cincinnati to win a game unless they beat the Jets or Browns. Clearly the Bengals need a new QB so they have to tank.

  193. Randy says:

    The bottom line is, regardless of what position they draft where, when all is said and done and the hay is in the barn, they need the picks they do make to be good players for this team. We could upgrade our talent at virtually every unit, so “need” for us is everywhere. Our 1-3 rounds have got to be guys who pan out. You can’t keep missing on high round draft picks and e pact to build a team. I really don’t care what positions they prioritize where….just get the picks right most of the time.

  194. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, I think draft prospect preferences have already started so there will be criticism by some with whoever we pick. I think we need to look at the offseason with FA and the draft as a whole, not necessarily how and where positions were added.

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