2019 Dolphins season in review, plus a look to the future

A cursory glance at our record in the standings might lead one to think this season was a failure. 5-11 and last place in the division by itself is not an impressive achievement. In context however, getting to 5-11 with the roster Brian Flores was given to work with in 2019 is actually pretty impressive. The final game win over the Patriots in Foxborough the cherry on top of the sundae. The Dolphins shed the roster of a large quantity of players, some with legit talent such as LT Laremy Tunsil, defector S Minkah Fitzpatrick, DE Robert Quinn, WR Kenny Stills and Kenyan Drake and a multitude of injuries that stripped the roster down considerably. Xavien Howard played (injured) in only 5 games in the beginning of the season before being placed on IR. Reshad Jones played in only 4 games. T.J. McDonald was released in August. DB Bobby McCain played in only 9 games. Charles Harris was there but he was all but invisible for 14 games. For perspective, our defensive backfield the majority of the season was Nik Needham, Jomal Wiltz, Eric Rowe, Steven Parker, Chris Lammons and then followed by half the season or less with Ken Webster, Adrian Colbert, Montre Hartage Ken Crawley, Johnson Bademosi and of course MTM sucked for 2 games for us. Get the picture? It was like GOT, a cast of too many to recall.

Our leading rusher was our QB, Ryan Fitzpatrick, with 243 yards. Neither Kenyan Drake nor Kalen Ballage were able to establish that they were a feature back, and Mark Walton who was on the precipice of doing so was then hit with an 8 game suspension for previous wrongdoings which unceremoniously ended his season. Kenyan Drake was traded to the Arizona Cardinals where he became a superstar (JKJBB) which gave Kalen Ballage his best opportunity ever. Ballage was abysmal really, awful even, averaging less than 2 YPC on 74 carries. By the end of the season we were down to Myles Gaskin who was injured in Week 16 which left only Patrick Laird and De’Lance Turner. Whew!

Bright spots! DeVante Parker realized all his wondrous potential and showed us just how good he can be. It was stunning really, that boy can play! His renaissance began about mid season but took off Week 10 against Indy and didn’t stop. The man was making catches in crowds where he simply ignored his safety and went up and snared the football with his 2 huge hands with total disregard for his body and made the catch. Time and time again we witnessed this as the chemistry between Parker and Fitzgerald was undeniable. Early in the season Preston Williams was cementing his status as a go to guy but was injured Week 9 against the Jets. Albert Wilson took a while to shake off the rust and by the end of the season, he started to resemble the guy from early to mid 2018 before his hip injury. Allen Hurns was a nice pickup and he also was returning from an injury last season and I think he will pay more dividends in the future. Rookie Isaiah Ford showed a lot of promise as well and was establishing himself as a legitimate WR by season’s end. Mike Gesicki turned into the receiving threat TE we thought we drafted. He showed nice growth and I think is just getting started as to what he can be.

On defense Taco Charlton who we picked up on waivers was our leading sack man with 5. Vince Biegel who we picked up in the trade with New Orleans had 13 QB hits. Davon Godchaux had a very solid season with over 70 tackles. Jerome Baker one of the defensive leaders on the team continues to play well and grow. Some of the youngsters in the no name secondary proved they are NFL worthy contributors and some will round out our depth back there very nicely. Andrew Van Ginkle showed a little promise in the limited time he played, he was on IR for much of the season (10 games). Eric Rowe who looked overmatched out on the boundary was a pleasant surprise when they moved him to safety. Rowe looks certain to be in the mix for one of the safety spots next season. A bunch of the no-name guys also excelled at ST’s and that’s an important dynamic on a football team. Walt Aikens continued his ST’s excellence this season.

Not getting caught up in hyperbole, I think the future is bright for our team. The Dolphins check in at #2 of teams with highest cap space available in 2020 with $94M +, just shy of the Indianapolis Colts who are only $2M higher. We have currently picks #5 and #18 in RD 1 along with one more pick which is tied to the success or failure of the Houston Texans against the Kansas City Chiefs. If the Texans lose the pick is at #25, if they win it continues to fall to the end of the 1st RD if they keep winning. THREE 1st RD picks! We also have picks #39 and #56 in RD 2. IN RD 3 we have pick #70. The good stuff ends in the 4th RD where we currently hold no picks. We do however, have three 5th RD picks. We have two 6th RD picks and one 7th RD pick. That’s a huge haul, which by the way does not include compensatory picks whose value has yet to be revealed although it’s value is likely set. Figure a 4th RD for Ja’Wuan James and somewhere between a 5th-7th for Cam Wake. That should result in a haul of 14 total draft picks in 2020. Draft party anyone???

In 2020 Free Agency, I don’t think we’re gunning for the top stars, although we have the cap space to do so. I think we’ll get some meat and potatoes, maybe even some prime rib but most likely no filet mignon. This is going to be a team, we’re not going to be shopping for “ME” players. I admittedly may be getting so caught up in that mantra that I actually believe we may not select a QB early in this draft while it’s expected our #5 pick is reserved for just that. I have been pounding the table that in the NFL you need to have a top QB. In 2020 I’m not convinced that is completely accurate. I think you need to have a well rounded team, one that can run the ball effectively and play strong defense. Defense wins championships. That still rings true. I know this will come off as a slight to Ryan Tannehill and I apologize in advance for those offended, but just look at the success of the Tennessee Titans. Ryan Tannehill is near the top of the leaderboards in a few passing categories. As per usual, he’s not a TD machine, but he has been a careful and effective game manager. 22 TD’s in today’s NFL doesn’t quite cut it. It can work if you have the leading rusher on your team and the Titans happen to have this year’s best in Derrick Henry. 303 carries for 1540 yards and 16 TD’s. Add in another 2 TD’s receiving for Henry and you can see how important Henry was to their success.

Ryan Tannehill was a complimentary player this season and he did his job very well. He had only 6 INT’s and 1 lost fumble. I’m not going to throw the game manager label on him but HC Mike Vrabel clearly didn’t want or ask Ryan Tannehill to put the team on his back, that was Derrick Henry’s job. Think I’m lying? Last season Derrick Henry had 215 carries, this season Mike Vrabel increased his carries 41%, FORTY ONE PERCENT to 303! I’m not bitter about Ryan Tannehill’s success, but I think it’s important to give credit where credit is due. I can almost guarantee that you if the Baltimore Ravens shut down Derrick Henry and force Ryan Tannehill to win the game through the air the results will be glum for the visiting Titans. So what’s my point? It sounds like I’ve talked myself out of what I was saying that this is a team game, right? I haven’t. We need a capable QB to pilot our team but I’m not convinced it has to be one of the 1st RD QB’s. We have Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh Rosen next season. We won’t need a QB to step in right away and I still haven’t given up hope that Josh Rosen could be the guy. Years ago 1st RD QB’s sat for a while, and Aaron Rodgers sat for 3 seasons behind Brett Favre. Maybe he needs more seasoning and development. I can tell you he’s watching a fine leader in Ryan Fitzpatrick lay down the foundation of how to lead a team. I’m so enamored with Fitzpatrick and feel embarrassed by saying it would be “boring” to watch him start instead of seeing what we have in Rosen instead.

I think we’re going to build a team, and I think QB is not necessarily the top priority like so many think it is. Hey, I’m wrong at least 50% of the time so it’s not like my track record gives me any foundation for this, but I have a feeling we’re going to hit the trenches in FA, bring in at a minimum 2-3 OL, 2 of them legit starters and one backup. They won’t be old either, probably none older than 28 or 29 for the starters. I think we will do the same on the defensive side, at least one DT/DE, a pass rushing type, and then a LB who can also rush the passer. Same formula, not likely older than 29. We have money, we have to spend some of it and we will. We hit the draft with some key holes filled and continue to add significant talent on the O-line and D-line. We must bring in talent at RB. I wouldn’t mind in the least a 1st RD pick on a RB. We need lots of help in the secondary so CB and S will be priorities. Hopefully the picture of what is going down with CB Xavien Howard is clearer before FA and the draft so we can address it properly. We need depth in the secondary no matter what, but if we know Xavien Howard won’t be missing much time if any would be a boon.

I’m ready for the assault for the Tannehill defenders, I stand behind every word I say and have illustrated my point well. Have at it, I’m here. I’m here for those who think we must take a QB at 5 as well. It’s just how I feel. Heck, I’m here for everything I say really, so if you don’t agree with anything, sling away! I think we will take a QB in this draft but I won’t be surprised if it’s in RD 2 or later. The Tua to Miami thing I feel is way overblown. Every athlete handles injuries differently. The best example of a successful player overcoming a brutal injury history is none other than former Dolphins RB Frank Gore. Gore tore his left leg ACL twice in college and then went on to play 15 years with over 15,000 yards, so go figure. If the Dolphins really are all in for Tua I can only hope he’s like Frank Gore.



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708 Responses to 2019 Dolphins season in review, plus a look to the future

  1. wyoming85 says:

  2. wyoming85 says:

    Nice write-up Mike E
    I actually agree with most of you thoughts!

    Hater! 😉

  3. wyoming85 says:

  4. TOP SECRET says:

    good post Mike. I agree, this was a successful season for coach flo.

  5. CavalierKong says:

    “As per usual, he’s not a TD machine, but he has been a careful and effective game manager. 22 TD’s in today’s NFL doesn’t quite cut it.”

    Cherry picker!! He only played 11 games. He averaged 2 TDs a game, so for a 16 game season that would project to be 32 TDs, or 3rd best in the league behind Jackson and Winston.

    LOL, actually I agree with a lot of what you wrote. I just think it’s not an indictment on Tanny that he needs a good running game to succeed consistently. I think you can say that about the majority of QBs in the league. For some reason it just seems anything Tanny does has to be diminished by ‘yeah, but’. Anyway, not really the point of your article. Good write, Mike.

    • Mike E. says:

      Thanks Kong, yeah, it was a little skewed there, and don’t worry, If Jahn can get his ass out of his hopper for a minute he will be tearing me a new a-hole. Rock will likely be on that as well. 🙂

  6. Randy says:

    Nice write up. Remember a couple years ago when I said we needed to limit Tannehill’s touches/throws if we wanted to be more productive and you scoffed at the notion? 🙂 That is exactly what Tennessee has done with him. Teams WANT to make him throw. That tells you all you need to know about how NFL coaches see him.
    As far as our team and not a castoff QB who will never win the big one, I am kinda hoping we build on the defensive side of the ball. I do believe that when you have a really high first round pick you should try to get a QB if you need one. But, after that, I’d be happy with a bunch of defensive picks. I don’t want to see a RB or a WR picked in round 1. Get me another high end front line guy and a DB instead. Build this defense into one that can hold opponents to 21 points a game, and your offense doesn’t need to be great.

    • Mike E. says:

      Yeah, live and learn pal, and that’s what I’m doing. You have to evolve and change with the landscape and I’m trying to do just that. I can admit (begrudgingly) when I’m wrong. 😉

  7. Mike E. says:

    Hey, everyone needs to re-read my post, I added a couple of paragraphs as I realized I left out my review portion of the post. Check it out please, thanks!

  8. Randy says:

    Just being a smart ass. We all live and learn. I’m way past giving a crap about Tanny but the conversations about him show how much fans get caught up in QBs. As much as we say it all starts up front and wins aren’t a QB stat, we all end up praising them when their teams have success. Fans just can’t help themselves. Lol

  9. Philip Bijeau says:

    Mike, I like your writing style, especially that you encourage critics. Some get butt hurt when opinions are challenged. Not you!

    Back to the story, none of the “experts” predicted the Dolphins to win 5 games. Awesome!

    Over The Cap has the Dolphins with the most cap space over the Colts by $5 million.

    The general consensus on the former dolphinshout website was, “keep drafting a quarterback every year until you get it right.” A large part of that reasoning was the cap on rookie contracts. I subscribe to that rationale.

    Who’s MTM?

    • Mike E. says:

      Thanks Philip!
      MTM is Minkah Fitzpatrick, who I only regard him now as Minkah the Mutinous.

      • Philip Bijeau says:

        Have a high regard for ‘Bama players because they come well prepared to play in the NFL. MTM, don’t like so much. Yeah, I’m a Saban fan, regardless of his ties to the Evil One, you know, our nemesis who missed the playoffs!

  10. Mike E. says:

    Philip – I think the thing that drives most me mad about MTM was how quick he gave up on us. I mean he had to see that Flores was a good coach who was just getting started and he didn’t give him the benefit of doubt for a second, just 2 games in and he decided he wanted out. That’s a serious character flaw. If he was a better judge of character he would have given Flores an opportunity to work with him and see if he could deal with it but like a spoiled child he wanted an oompa loompa NOW! lol

  11. wyoming85 says:

  12. bailbondmike says:

    This is RB Kylin Hill who D was talking about yesterday. This is a huge RB class so no need to draft one early. Comes from an RPO offense.


  13. dbolt48 says:

    Good article…I think the biggest fallacy anyone has is the QB wins argument. Plain and simply it’s always a team effort, but people like the simple minded argument that it’s all on the QB alone. RT17 is playing well for multiple reasons…..the best OL he’s had, an excellent RB, and a staff that plays to his strengths. This is called smart football and anymore you’re really seeing why this is true especially in the playoffs.

    • Mike E. says:

      Thanks DBolt – Yep, smart football is team football. Leave too much on any one facet of your team and that gets shut down then you probably don’t have an answer. What I want to see though is if the Ravens concentrate on shutting down Henry and are successful at doing that, how Vrabel and the Titans counter, and if they can be successful doing so.

      • dbolt48 says:

        PA will still be a threat, but it will be increasingly important for the WRs to win their 1 on 1’s. Also the HB’s will need to make plays in the passing game. A few designed runs for RT17 might be important to intermix in the early drives to keep Baltimore honest.

  14. stangerx says:

    MIke E — that was one comprehensive and excellent write. And I love the optimism cause I share it as well. And starts with think we found our coach. Who would’ve thunk 5-11 could seem so promising? But guess that is the way it works when you go thermonuclear tare down.

    • Mike E. says:

      Thanks Stanger! How was your trip?

      • stangerx says:

        Trip was darn nice. They even have ESPN down under. Couldn’t believe the Pats/Phins was the tease for SportsCenter….. until learned why. Also got a kick out of all the commercials for “Super Bowl Monday” — cause that is when it happens.

  15. stangerx says:

    Said would re-post the the guesses for our pick once was set , and nobody had #5. Seems we did a bit better than expected and still could trade up or down….. so not set yet.

    Where do you think our first pick will be?

    Stanger — #6
    Wyoming85 – #3
    Phish –- #2
    Kong –- #3
    D ——- #4
    🐷 – #32
    OD — #3
    New Age- #3

  16. dbolt48 says:

    Also in regards to the QB spot and the draft….I think if Flores & Gailey are looking for mobile QBs I think Herbert & Live will need to be taken early. I’m not sure if Tua is a player you want running the RPO due to his health. If they are looking for a traditional drop back QB then all bets are off….Tua would fit, but so would Fromm who’ll be available later in RD1 or early RD2.

  17. Mike E. says:

    LOL @ Superbowl Monday. That sounds wrong . . .

  18. TOP SECRET says:

    my dream is for Dolphins to pick :
    #5 Isaiah Simmons
    #18 Yetur Gross-Matos
    #25 Tyler Biadasz
    #39 Travis Etienne
    the rest of the draft, depending on who we add in FA, fill the holes! I personally feel we can win with whoever the QB is if we build a SOLID TEAM.

  19. Tim Knight says:

    Excellent write, Mike!

    Stanger, I picked #4 but you left me off the list. 😉

  20. CavalierKong says:


    You were on your trip, but I did give props to you for calling out a potential Dolphins win in NE weeks ago. Just wanted to make sure you caught me eating a little crow on that one since I gave it no chance.

    • stangerx says:

      You are a good man Kong — but can’t take much credit for that call. Reason I did was cause thought the game might not matter to the Pats, but turned out it did a lot. Which makes the upset all the more sweet. 🙂

  21. TOP SECRET says:

    hey Mike E. was having a little trouble today with computer key board, then discovered it needed 2 AAA batteries, who knew ? to answer you, I am doing ok, so fucking tired of QB talk on the internet. if I have to hear one more “tua to the dolphins” opinion by the the numbnuts in the press, i’ll puke. hey, if coach Flo decides that “he’s our guy”, i’ll be on board with the decision.

    • Mike E. says:

      Same here man. Sometimes where there’s smoke there’s fire but sometimes you just burn some toast. If we’re really all in on Tua I will be a fan, but I’m not convinced at all that we are.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Good to see you TOP and agreed on the constant Tua to the Dolphins. Let the team build it their way and stop force feeding stuff.

  22. New Age says:


    Great article and I agree with it. I love your descriptions of MTM. The nicknames given to our most disappointing players over the years are always fun. DT3 sounds like a deal compared to MTM. I still think we go Tua if available at 5 and doctor approval…but you are exactly right that we can win with Rosen. If Chicago, LA, and Buffalo can get to the playoffs with their QBs, so can we with Rosen.

  23. Mike E. says:

    Marc Sanchez does SpongeBob . . .

  24. TOP SECRET says:

    hey if we take Simmons at #5, people will be saying “minka who?” thay Simmons kid can do it all!

  25. Jahndoh30 says:

    Nice write up Mike. There’s a LOT I agree with, but I I think you’re putting WAY too much into the single stat of Henry carries. In fact, his carries of 308 is not really even that much for a bell cow back.

    Tannehill played 12 games and this was his stat line:
    70.3 Completion %
    2,742 Yards
    22 TDs
    6 INTs
    3.7 TD to INT ratio

    Those numbers aren’t game manager numbers they’re legit probowler numbers and if he’d had 4 more games he’d probably be in the probowl (he’s an alternate currently).

    I think many here (understandably) only actually watched him play vs. New England and confirmed their bias that he was a product of Henry’s success because they chose to run the ball heavily vs the Pats.

  26. TOP SECRET says:

    Tanny was a tough mutha fucker for Miami. the beating that kid took behind a horrid O-line was terrible. And, he was a top notch stand up dude off the field. I hope nothing but the best for him and his family.

  27. Mike E. says:

    Jahn – I didn’t watch Tannehill a lot, I don’t have time to. I did watch occasionally because I flip channels a lot during commercials or when the Dolphins aren’t playing. I know he played well, but to say Henry wasn’t a huge reason for that is putting on blinders. A 40% increase in usage for a RB is considerable amount. Henry was a monster this season, no 2 ways about it. That doesn’t mean Tannehill didn’t play well, but it’s a lot of the why Tannehill played well. Last year Dion Lewis had more carries and was less effective in doing so. Henry wears down a defense, he’s a load. Hey, Tannehill will be a free agent in 2020 so we’ll see how many teams other than the Titans line up for his services.

    • dbolt48 says:

      In all honesty I hope him & Henry re-up w/ the Titans. That squad has the perfect compliments on offense and makes them fun to watch.

    • Jahndoh30 says:

      So to be clear I agree that Henry was, and would be, a huge reason for Tannehill or any QBs success.

      Want to do a friendly wager? He’s gonna back up the brinks truck this offseason. At least 30M/season.

      • Jahndoh30 says:

        Except I think he’s going to be franchise tagged, so bets off if that happens…FT is going to be 24-27M somewhere in there…

  28. Mike E. says:

    The game logs for Tennessee tell a lot of the story. When the Ravens beat the Titans week 6, the Titans had only 55 yards rushing. What happened??? 21-0 shutout. To keep things real, the Titans only had 70 yards rushing but beat the Eagles 26-23 the week before, but the Eagles aren’t in the same stratosphere as the Ravens this season

  29. Mike E. says:

    Jahn – How’s the hopper? 🙂

  30. Mike E. says:

    DBolt – I was flipping back and forth to see how many carries Dion Lewis had in ’18, that’s why I was on the 2018 Titans page.

  31. Jahndoh30 says:

    It’s hoppin’ Mike E! 😛 (toothless)
    I replied to your post up the way btw…cheers bud.

  32. Rockphin says:

    Nice write up Mike E. I thought I was reading a post by D for a minute there though…..I had to go take a Pee midway through. LOL

  33. D says:

    My break down on the RB Class this year is
    Tier 1
    Swift – in other years he probably is a low tier 1 but law of supply and demand says that he bumps up higher because there is a pretty significant gap between his talent level and that of the rest.

    Tier 2
    Taylor, Etienne, and Edwars-Helaire

    Tier 2.5
    Moss, Hubbard, Dobbins, Akers, Hill, Harris, Perine, Vaughn, all around the same skill level not too far off the tier 2 guys.

    Easy to get starter talent into the 3rd maybe 4th.

    • TOP SECRET says:

      Etienne at #39 would be right place, right pick.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      You aren’t as high on Dobbins as others…

      I have Swift, Dobbins and Taylor tier 1

      I’m actually not a huge fan of Etienne, although I think he’s exciting, he kind of reminds me of a Reggie Bush back rather than a guy who is going to carry the ball a lot

      • New Age says:

        I feel the same. I really like him but every time I see him it I think of Bush. Bush was super talented but we need a Taylor/Dobbins guy more imo.

  34. Rockphin says:

    Just reading through the comments now. No,Mike you are not going to get me to argue about Thill anymore.

    Passer Rating IS a team stat.

    • Jahndoh30 says:

      I mean everything is a team stat if you follow the logical corollary that it’s the ultimate team game where each person’s success is dependent on each other person doing their job, but since stats are also used to assess and compare players, we count them as individual stats as well.

      Good thing though, it’s just a good conversation…no arguing necessary. 🙂

      • The Flying Pig says:

        (Piggy smashes a chair over your back)

        I want to argue!

        (Piggy climbs to the top rope)

  35. D says:

    Sounds like someone has a case of the Superbowl Mondays….

  36. Rockphin says:

    BTW, I am finishing up a series by Michael J. Sullivan “The Riyria Revelations” it has been a very enjoyable read. The first book started off slow but it picked up.

    I am a little confused about his books because I think “The Riyria Revelations” was a re-packaging of 5 books into 3 larger books.

    Kind of like how Salvator combined all the Dritz books into three big volumes or how Eddings re-released the Belgariad into to books from 5.

    there is “another” series by him called “Riyria Chronicles” I’m not sure if it is the same story or not yet.

    • New Age says:

      I haven’t read that series yet but I’m on book 2 of the Legends of the First Empire series and it’s been a great series so far.

  37. Tim Knight says:

    I really think D’Andre Swift will be a dynamic back in the NFL. He has a very explosive first step when he sees where he wants to go and he can make that quick second move at full speed to find daylight. He also demonstrates power and receiving ability.

  38. bailbondmike says:

    Piggy, I am not that high on Dobbins (as a 1st round RB) We will need RB’s who are receiving threats. Dobbins is not that. I wouldn’t mind him as 1 of 2 backs we draft but not in the first. He had quite a few drops this season. More of a concentration thing that can be fixed. I just don’t want a RB who drops the ball in crunch time. He had 2 bad drops against Clemson.

  39. Tim Knight says:

    Well this answers my question the other day.

    • Mike E. says:

      Oh, that’s unfortunate, I think . . . I liked Caldwell, unless he didn’t fit well with Flores’ philosophy, and then adios amigo!

  40. Mike E. says:

    Jahn – Not a big deal about what Tanny gets. My point was I don’t believe he’ll have a long list of suitors. I’m pretty sure TEN is satisfied with what he did and will retain him. The compensation comes with the territory, this is what guys are getting paid now. If TEN was out of the picture, I don’t think a lot of teams would be willing to give him that kind of money. Just my thoughts . . .

    • Ken says:

      I do think Tannehill will have several suitors but I suspect the lead suitor is Tennessee and I am guessing that is where he will stay

  41. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, one thing about our draft picks. I posted a link yesterday that states we don’t have a 7th round pick but three 6th round picks.

    • Mike E. says:

      I like Great Blue North, but there not always completely accurate until it gets closer to draft time. It’s almost impossible to find two sites that agree with our picks, so I just don’t know for sure. I think as we get closer things will eventually be cleared up

      • Tim Knight says:

        True! I can’t even find another site that lists the total picks. Then there are those Undisclosed/conditional picks GBN mentions.

  42. Tim Knight says:

    Not trying to downplay mid and late round picks because as we know talent is always found there. But the key to our draft is what we do between 5-70 with 6 picks. Do we stay put, trade up or down for specific talent? Do those 6 picks become 4 or 8?

    FA will be part of the new foundation, but this draft is going to be huge in how fast we become a good team.

  43. Ken says:

    Nice write Mike E. I do disagree with you on some points. In particular I do think we will draft a QB high this year. I don’t think the team believes in Rosen. I expect he won’t be on the roster next year. I do think Fitz gives us the ideal situation to draft a QB because you won’t have to rush him into the lineup. So with that I expect us to go QB early. Only time will tell if I am right but that is what I am thinking

    • Tim Knight says:

      Not so sure about that with Rosen. I think Flores felt O’Shea just implemented the Brady offense and that’s not for young players. We even saw that with the NE offense this year.

      Gailey runs a more simplified offense. Josh Rosen will be 23 years old this season.

      Ryan Fitzpatrick at 37 has 15 NFL seasons under his belt. Rosen currently at 22 has 2.

      We write players off after a few games. Do you feel the same way about Nik Needham now that you did in say… October?

      We didn’t trade a 2nd and a 5th for Rosen as a one year and done – with a 22 year old QB drafted #10 in 2018.

      This might be the next anvil Grier/Flores drops on the media. Stop telling us what we should do. Remember when you said we were 0-1 win team. LOL

  44. TryPod says:

    I don’t think we’ll reach for a qb- meaning if one is sitting there when we pick that we have the appropriate grade on, we’ll take him, but we’re not chasing or forcing one into our pick. Just my opinion-I’ve never been a draft geek, so I really don’t know- though I believe I was the first one on the Parker bandwagon 😊

  45. Rockphin says:

    Marino was taken at #27
    Rogers went at #24

    Would either of them be worth the #5 pick? (Yeah stupid question)

    So if the team thinks that Love or Fromm or one of the other guys is the guy, you take him

  46. Rockphin says:

    Ian Rapoport


    The #Dolphins are hiring an assistant from the college ranks: Illinois DL coach Austin Clark is joining Miami and will coach the outside linebackers, source said. Just 30 years old, Clark is considered a rising talent in the coaching world.
    10:26 AM – Jan 9, 2020

  47. Tim Knight says:

    The Florida media jumped on the “Suck for Luck” mantra and made it “Tank for Tua”. You want to invest a top pick in a college QB already going through the reason Luck retired from the NFL?

    Let Grier and Flores build it their way with the intel they have, not all these fantasy draft simulators. I have to say they dumb down our conversations. Do you really know who should be the pick in the 3rd through 7th rounds, never mind 1-2? LOL

    It’s one thing to have fun with it and another to be staunch about it.

  48. ElephantRider says:

    Great article Mike E

    I of course don’t agree with some parts, which you did on porpoise…..

    I always enjoy your writes and I’d buy a subscription here before I ever would for the papers down there.

  49. Mike E. says:

    Ken – Thanks man. I don’t think it’s so much that the team believes in Rosen, I think it’s more that he’s still in the plan. I think they gave him a season to watch and learn, and then they will see what he can do this season. They still have Fitzpatrick this season and we can draft another QB this draft, just not a 1st RD pick. Then you have two talented QB’s on the roster with a veteran signed this season.

  50. dbolt48 says:

    Excellent points on Tua and the QB situation overall. The funny thing is so many Fin fans are going to lose their mind if Miami doesn’t land Tua or Burrow. I’ve seen people ignorantly crap on all of the other QBs mentioned in RS1 & RD2 by doing the typical over exaggerated flaws argument. This team will pick the QB that will best suit them and whatever I they plan in running long term.

  51. steveccnv says:

    This season we had no idea what to expect from Flores. Besides what many of us believe, that he’s a very good coach, has anything really changed on what to expect?

    We had Sparano and Gase, both made the playoffs in season 1, but went downhill from there. It’s hard to believe we could be worse next year recordwise, but we did have a fairly easy schedule this year.

    I don’t think that much has changed, in that we still don’t have an idea of what kind of style we’ll be playing on O. On D you could expect to still play the mixed formations, but not much else.

    I think it’s good that we don’t know, because our opponents won’t either.

    Things will start to get clearer after the draft, and no doubt many here will think we’ll have a legitimate shot at the playoffs, but still left in the dark on style to expect.

  52. wyoming85 says:

    I might have to try that simulator

    • stangerx says:

      Not sure how good the simulator is but what the guy did certainly shows you what we can do with all that FA cash. He got 6 guys averaging $10 mil per year and had a wad of cash left to spend. We have 3 guys signed for over ten mil on the 2020 roster (Jones, Howard, Wilson) and #4 is at six.

      Far as we put on the field next year….. FA might mean more than the draft.

  53. wyoming85 says:

  54. Rockphin says:

    56: Tackles by Christian Wilkins, which led rookie defensive lineman. It also tied for the third-most by a rookie linemen in the NFL since 2015.

    75: Tackles by Davon Godchaux, leading NFL defensive tackles. It was third among all NFL defensive linemen and most by a Dolphins lineman since at least 2000.

  55. D says:

    I like what he did with his FA + Draft plan, but…….

    A to OT prospect is going to get a lot more than 9.5 per over 4 years. Being its a second contract and given the FA pool at OT, Conklin is going to be more in the range of 12mil – 14mil perrange, probably closer to 14. Ifedi is going to be in the same boat but probably closer to the 12mil than 14. Theuny is going to be about 10. Leonard Williams is going t be probably 14-16 per and Bud Dupree probably 14-16. Bradberry might be the one he is closest to being correct on as i would guess 10mil per.

    So i think thats a bit more spending in FA than is reasonable. Draft wise, those first 3 picks seem reasonable to me, but id do it different since i would not have the FA he had.

    Me personally, i would like to continue to develop Deiter, but id like to bring in an FA at OG, Peat or Theuny would be fine, but they will both be about 10mil per contracts. Pencil on of them as day 1 starter at LG. LT’s are expensive pickups in FA, id look to have out LT be a 1st round draft pick. I think Davenport, could provide a decent backup or temp starter until a young guy gets his feet. So draft a guy early, with expectations of having him as day 1 starter. Draft an OC/OG as well, maybe day 2ish, push Boehm, Deiter, Kilgore, for starting spots at OC/OG. We could consider a person at RT from FA as well, or we could ride with Davis at RT and draft a guy to push him, maybe late day 2 early day 3.

    If we ended up with an OL that looked like this

    Rookie 1st – Theuny – Kilgore/Rookie second – Rookie second/Deiter/Boehm – Davis/Rookie 3rd/4th

    Thats a decent OL for our first year fleshing out the roster.

    On the DL side, i like the idea of Williams or Dupree, but not both. Again, id rather add a guy to help us leap forward, sure, but id much rather see us building around people we draft. If we got Williams, id say we could use one of our firsts on a DE/OLB prospect, maybe Gross-Matos or our late first to get a Jennings or Okwara. If we got Dupree in FA we look for Derrick Brown, or Javon Kinlaw in the first of the draft. Add that with Wilkins, Godchaux, Jenkins and Charlton/Willis as rotational guys, i think thats pretty solid.

  56. D says:

    Word on BEcton is that he is already showing some medical issues because of his size. He isnt a healthy massively big dude. They say he moves pretty good for his size though, but still lumbers a little and again, is breaking his body down.

  57. D says:

    Doesnt matter how ya feel about a coach after the first year, you still dont know anything. Its too small of a sample size to really make any predictions or have any confidence. I do like what i have see, i do know that. I do like the fact that the Phins looked like a TEAM for first time in a while. I dont cae about the number of wins and losses, it was an encouraging sign, but he still isnt done with the build so hold off anointing him as anything, there is a lot more road to travel.

  58. The Flying Pig says:


  59. Tim Knight says:

    RIP Neil Peart. 😦

  60. The Flying Pig says:

    He’s not coming out

    Too bad

  61. The Flying Pig says:

    Starting off Friday Night Music with an appropriate song

    • Tim Knight says:

      I saw them during the Moving Pictures tour in 1982 at the Nassau Coliseum. My friends car broke down on the LIE on our way home and it was freezing cold that night. Good times!

  62. The Flying Pig says:

    On that stat for Wilkins and Godchaux
    I think we have the makings of a very good 3-4 DL
    If we drafted some one like Derrick Brown or Kinlaw or Davis
    We might be able to be very good up front for a long time

  63. Tim Knight says:

    Here’s a great instrumental tune by Rush.

  64. Mike E. says:

    Heaven (or hell) just got a really good drummer!

  65. Krishna says:

    Thank you, Mike E! Nice season end summary.

    And, nice to see a change of view, albeit begrudgingly. I’m like that, too, but if you show me…..I’m open to learning and growing.

    • Mike E. says:

      You’re welcome Krishna! Thank you! I also think Flores is the guy. On the other hand, there is still a little fear that if he actually gets a really talented roster will he be able to get them play to as hard as the no-names? Know what I mean?

  66. Krishna says:

    I don’t see holding back on the Flores praise. His first year was nothing like Philbin or Gase or Sparano…..pish, tosh.

    He beat NE in NE who WANTED/NEEDED a win for a bye.

    No f’n comparison.

    The players played for their coach!

  67. Krishna says:

    I’m actually excited for his second year …never was for the others. Didn’t really see a leader/coach in the last 20 years.

  68. Krishna says:

    Di you owe me a beer or does it have to be exact wording? 😁

  69. D says:

    Lol my 6 year old little girl just pulled me. I was explaining how baby Yoda has magical powers and she goes “it’s called The Force daddy” LMAO, I was like yes it is and I’ve never been more proud lol

  70. Krishna says:

    Excellent….now teach her what that means or at least provide her the means to understanding!

  71. Tim Knight says:

    Anyone else think if we build a formidable pass rush we can run anyone out there in the secondary?
    That was the most impressive thing our coaches accomplished this year. How many DBs did we go through, 20? They all looked prepared and did their jobs.

  72. TryPod says:

    Really bummed right now- like when Chris Cornell passed away.

    RIP Pratt
    Neil Peart

  73. TryPod says:

    A good example of his ability to lay textures inn playing

  74. TryPod says:

    And of course, mastery:

  75. Tim Knight says:

    Neil Peart took drumming to a new level like Eddie Van Halen took the guitar. New horizons.

  76. TryPod says:


  77. TryPod says:

    Wrong link above:

  78. TryPod says:

    Neil making professional jazz musicians take notice:

    • Tim Knight says:

      Great drummer, musician and lyricist. RIP Neil. 😦

      • TryPod says:

        This one’s gonna sting for awhile.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah it sucks on that level. A really good guy and amazing musician. This one is tough. It’s still too fresh. 😦

        I ordered a sandwich tonight and the delivery dude mentioned it while I had 2112 playing. We both shook hands with condolences. Sad and love.

  79. naplesfan2010 says:

    “Based on what we know at this point, I’d expect Tagovailoa to fully regain the athleticism he showed in college, but even if he were only half as mobile as he was, he’d still be more mobile than half the quarterbacks in the NFL.  ”

    Gil Brandt
    This writer, who knows stuff for real, also picked Miami as best chance to go worst to first and best fit for developing Tua.

    • Mike E. says:

      Naples – It’s not just recovering from this injury but can he avoid getting new injuries as well. It’s a crapshoot. I’m nervous about him though . . .

  80. Mike E. says:

    Who stole our Sonshine?

  81. pheloniusphish says:

    Yeah, Son hasn’t been around in awhile. Hope all is well.

  82. wyoming85 says:

  83. stangerx says:

    Wondering how free agents will view the Phins. Normally bad teams have to pay a premium for players and we were 5-11. We think we have something going on, but is the word out in the league that we do? Would hate to see us used like a stalking horse over and over cause of all the cash we have.

    • bailbondmike says:

      I think this team will be attractive to many free agents. The way we finished the season going 5-4 last 9 games. Bitch slapping the Pats in Foxboro in that final game sent a message to a lot of players that this team is going to be for real. It also showed that the Patsie dynasty is about over and our division is open for the taking.

      • stangerx says:

        Good point on the Pats win. That one might have meant a lot more to us in the off season than just an extra win in the standings. And plus all those FAs will know about the money and the draft picks.

  84. D says:

    Free agents a lot of time don’t really base their decision on the likelihood the team is in the hunt for a Superbowl next year. Some in certain stages of their career, maybe but I think a lot of it is culture and compensation.

    If they get a good feel of them where they fit, and how the feel about the staff I think that’s the difference when a player takes less money. I think we have an attractive culture at this point, and I think the fact we have been very selective with our FA targets, whomever is brought in will get the fell they will be a big part of the future.

    I see us not being for all players in FA because we won’t be overpaying I don’t think and we won’t be attractive to old vets because of the state of rebuild but I think that kinda perfect. We aren’t looking for those players anyway so it’s a natural weed out.

  85. D says:

    • Mike E. says:

      Hard to really evaluate how well he did this season. I mean the young guys seemed to grow and learn really well, but our defense wasn’t particularly good this season either. The pass rush never materialized and I thought that sometimes we went all or nothing on blitzes too often.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m surprised by this. Only thing I can think of is Flores wants more experienced coordinators like Gailey over O’Shea.

  86. Phindog says:

    Toba gonna get some leg tonight for sure !!

    • manitobafinfan says:


      PVRed it as she was worth until 16:00 .. got caught up with 5:00 left. Managed to avoid all and any updates.

      I still hate the 9ers though regardless…

      Go Tanny!!

  87. manitobafinfan says:

    Wake and Tannehill walking in side by side … wake in street clothes though. 🙁

  88. manitobafinfan says:

    Tannehill with a dart 50 yd TD to lead 14-0 … wow

  89. New Age says:

    Tannehill kicking ass. Go Titans!!!

  90. New Age says:

    I’m not sure about both coordinators leaving. I wasn’t the biggest fan of O’Shea leaving but we did get a solid replacement. Hoping for the same if Graham leaves.

  91. Tim Knight says:

    Jackson looks off. Maybe two weeks off wasn’t such a good idea.

  92. Tim Knight says:


  93. bookman11 says:

    Ryan flipping Tannehill!

  94. Ken says:

    This Tannehill guy sucks 😁

  95. manitobafinfan says:

    Titans defence is playing lights out .. I’m almost a believer. Totally thought Ravens would blow them out ..

  96. Tim Knight says:

    The Titans game plan has been excellent.

  97. Tim Knight says:


  98. manitobafinfan says:

    Wow. Is it time for RG III

  99. manitobafinfan says:

    Jackson looks totally lost now

  100. Tim Knight says:

    I don’t see the Ravens coming back but there is the entire 4th quarter. They have to make plays and fast.

  101. Tim Knight says:

    The Ravens are playing like they’re running out the clock. This will not get it done.

  102. manitobafinfan says:

    That made that look easy

  103. stangerx says:

    Wasn’t the plan all along for Tanny to lead his team deep into the playoffs? 🙂

  104. Tim Knight says:

    Tannehill doing his Joe Montana imitation.

  105. D says:

    So Henry and his 186 yards rushing, isn’t the reason it’s Thill and his 88 yards passing?

  106. The Flying Pig says:

    What a Choke by the ravens

    • Tim Knight says:

      Nope they got outplayed. Vrabel out-coached Harbaugh. BAL sat starters in week 17 and then had the bye. Belichick never does that. You play football and finish the job. Vrabel knows that. I think Harbaugh got cocky and it bit him in the ass.

  107. D says:

    I’m not saying he hasn’t done his part but you guys are screaming Thill like he’s doing it all. Any QB with a RB who runs for 186+ should be able to do what he is doing. Also stanger you don’t think it’s the other way around? 186 yard rusher not opening up the passing game. I don’t see how I can’t say a counter point with out getting that much thrown back at me and there not be a tad of his as among the rest of y’all.

  108. D says:

    Let what go Tim. I have made one comment. Lol wtf, why don’t you let it go.

  109. Tim Knight says:

    Don’t put it on me, D. Hope all is well.

  110. The Flying Pig says:

    KC doesn’t defend the run very well
    Something to consider in the afc championship if they win tomorrow

  111. manitobafinfan says:

    D , I’m not saying Tannehill took the team on his back and single handedly defeated the Ravens .. I was however very impressed with both of his TD throws.. I’m happy for the guy ..🤷🏻

    • D says:

      I said earlier this year he has improved some in areas he never did with us. I think a lot has to do with better coaching than he had with us. Still Tenn has had great OL play and they have a great running to take things off of him. I’m happy for him I just think the anointment of him as the elite QB that got away is silly. Read back and you would think he was throwing for 400 yards, and handling this all on his own. I like the guy, I am very happy they won and beat the Ravens even though I didn’t expect that.

      • manitobafinfan says:

        Agree totally, he landed in a perfect situated by the looks of it .. and no , no delusions that he is the next coming of Drew Brees, but hey even Trent Dilfer helped win a Super Bowl.

  112. bookman11 says:

    So happy for RT!

  113. manitobafinfan says:

    Stanger: yes I also understand the drivers concern . And there are a lot of irresponsible smokers out there …

    • stangerx says:

      Gotta understand that a pinched cherry is done in like 5 seconds even when not stepped on. Different than a lit butt. But yeah better safe than sorry.

  114. Ken says:

    I am getting my Tannehill jersey out of the closet

  115. bookman11 says:

    Bob Griese like passing stats lol

  116. Tim Knight says:

    Congrats to Ryan Tannehill being 2-0 in his first playoff appearances. Well done for a good guy.

  117. Ken says:

    Anyone got a can of blue spray paint?

  118. Ken says:

    In all honesty I know Henry and the OL are what drives the Titans but Tannehill’s 2 TD throws were both awesome throws

  119. Tim Knight says:

    Ravens out, KC is the next beast. Does HOU upset them?

  120. bailbondmike says:

    What!?! This can’t happen. This is a passing league now! I thought teams can’t win anymore running the ball and playing good defense. This is just awesome to watch the way they are doing it. Tannehill is a good manager of this offense and can catch you off guard with a big throw. He will never be elite though. However, we should knock him for his pedestrian numbers. Hell, look at Garoppolo’s numbers today in their win, 11 of 19, 57.9% 131 yards, 1 TD 1 INT. They won with great D and so did the Titans.

  121. bailbondmike says:

    Time to continue to build our defense and it needs to start in the trenches. Maybe target 49er’s Arik Armstead, 6’7″ 300 pounds, in free agency to be one of our 3-4 DE’s. He will cost a penny or two though.

  122. Ken says:

    Hulk needs beauty rest. Peace

  123. Tim Knight says:

    Ken, yes Henry was a 2nd rd pick. My point was talented players make you a better team. RBs are not a dime a dozen just like any other position. Some guys are special and better than others.

    Select the best talents on your board.

  124. Tim Knight says:

    I have no doubt that OL and Edge will be our biggest investments in the offseason. A QB yes, but maybe not. Maybe not 1st round.

    • stangerx says:

      Tim — you are probably right, but we have 5 picks in the first 60 and enough money to get 6 or more legit starters in FA. That’s like a whole D or O. Gonna be interesting.

      • Tim Knight says:

        6 in the top 70. 🙂
        1 (3) 5, 18 and ?
        2 (2) 39, 56
        3 (1) 70

        This is Grier and Flores’ moment. FA will come first, but these 6 picks are huge.

  125. ElephantRider says:

    I don’t give a shit what anyone says. Congratulations to RT17. Win one more and go back to Hard Rock and shove it up their ass.

  126. The Flying Pig says:

    Congrats to Tannehill

    Also congrats to Trent Dilfer, 1 win away from no longer being the worst QB to play in the super bowl 🏟

  127. bailbondmike says:

    Man, what a good morning it is knowing that the Pats are home watching the playoffs and now the Ravens are 1 and done in the playoffs. A KC win would be just icing on the cake!

  128. Mike E. says:

    Wow, the Tanne-love flowing on the board. I stand by what I said, the day some team shuts down Derick Henry and make Tannehill do more than he’s been doing is the day Tennessee probably gets knocked off. I only watched a little of the game so I don’t know how it went down, saw the first TD which is a fantastic catch by Jonnu Smith, and then saw some of the 4th QTR. He’s obviously working very well off of Henry. so the real test will be if someone can shut that down. It hasn’t happened yet. Just curious, all you guys who are lapping this up, would you want the Dolphins to give Tannehill $30M plus per year on a 4-5 year contract?

    • Mike E. says:

      BTW – Glad the Ravens lost, I fucking hate them and John Harbaugh. Glad he got to eat some crow. lol

    • bailbondmike says:

      MikeE, I don’t disagree with you. The Tanne-love just comes from him being our QB for so long, pulling for him all those years and giving us his all every game coupled with being overall a good dude. He will always be the QB he is now and was for us. He just has a better team around him now.

  129. bailbondmike says:

    Sunday morning reading:

    Always thinking about DE/OLB/Edge players, Young, Espenesa, Chaisson and Gross-Matos come to mind first. Here is an interesting prospect I have missed/over looked. He does have some question marks though as you will read about in the end.

    From “Thedraftnetwork”:

    The 2020 NFL Draft is set to feature one of the deepest defensive line classes the league has seen in the last decade. Specifically, the amount of talented pass rushers in this year’s crop immediately stands out. It is headlined by Ohio State’s Chase Young, but even after him, there are a ton of high-upside edge defenders that could also be drafted in the top 50.

    One of those players is Tennessee’s Darrell Taylor, a 6-foot-4, 260-pound senior who racked up 17 sacks over the last two seasons. Of all the pass rushers in this draft outside of Young, Taylor has the most tantalizing traits and highest ceiling.

    Taylor reportedly RAN A 4.5-SECOND 40 in the spring before this season, and you can see that athleticism translated on his game tape. He has a lightning-quick first step and plays with elite flexibility and bend in his lower body. Those athletic traits translated on Taylor’s tape are found in just about every stud pass rusher in the NFL.

    Taylor is crazy explosive and a speed demon off the edge — that is evident. But what a lot of people don’t realize is how powerful he is at the point of attack. Taylor uses his 4.5 speed and effortlessly converts it into power, utilizing his length and strong upper body. With Taylor’s speed, power and length off the edge, you would be hard pressed to find many pass rushers better at their peak than him.

    Another key aspect of Taylor’s game that makes him one of this draft’s most intriguing pass rushers is his vast toolbox of counter moves. On his tape, you see moves stacked on top of moves consistently. Whether it’s a chop-dip-rip, euro cross-chop, swim, spin or inside counter. Taylor’s unpredictability as a rusher is scary. When you have an edge defender with Taylor’s kind of speed, explosiveness and quickness — combined with this variety of counter moves — coaches and scouts are going to absolutely fall in love.

    From purely a talent standpoint, Taylor is the most gifted pass rusher in this 2020 class, other than Young. However, there are a couple of things that may hold him back from becoming a first-round selection in April.

    For starters, a lot of his sack numbers the last two seasons were registered in just a few games, and there were long stretches throughout both his junior and senior campaigns where he was invisible on the field. He is simply too talented to be shut out in games, and I think NFL evaluators will see his lack of game-to-game consistency as a major question mark.

    Also, as a run defender, he is reckless in his gap discipline, often rushing upfield, losing his contain and taking himself out of the play. Taylor doesn’t get washed against the run, but I do wonder if coaches and scouts will have concerns about his early-down production at the next level.

    Lastly, Taylor will have to answer questions about his history off the field. He was suspended indefinitely as a sophomore in 2017 after getting in a fight with his teammate at practice, among other reasons.

    If you’re a pass rusher entering the NFL draft, you better have one of two things on your resume as a prospect — noticeable physical traits like speed, power and length, or good college production. Taylor is one of the few EDGE prospects in this draft class that possesses both. His combination of explosion, bend and quickness off the edge is evident, and if he can put it together consistently at the next level, I think he can become a Pro Bowl pass rusher and double-digit sack artist at the next level, similar to a player like Robert Quinn. Invited to the 2020 Senior Bowl, he’ll have an opportunity to have a dominant week in the one-on-one period and cement his status as a top-tier pass rusher in this class.

    • bailbondmike says:

      I did watch one of his game tapes, every snap, not highlights. Where they talked about his inconsistency, I think it was more of a scheme fit at TN. He played almost every snap as a hand-in-ground 4-3 DE and struggled some getting off blocks, mostly on running plays. He did record 3 sacks with some good moves in that game but did seem to get washed out on running plays as a 4-3 DE. I think he would be better suited as a 3-4 edge/OLB with his size and speed. He does look like he could be special with the right fit and coaching.

  130. bailbondmike says:

    An undrafted rookie free agent QB we might bring in for a camp arm is QB James Morgan, Florida International, 6’4″ 215. Dude has a serious fast ball and quick release. Doesn’t have eyepopping numbers though and his deep ball lacks some accuracy.

  131. bailbondmike says:

    Piggy, I have to disagree. I think Tannehill is a better QB than Dilfer was.

    • New Age says:

      I agree. Dilfer was terrible. Even in their SB run, he was awful. 15 TDs 12 ints for that entire year. To win it all with QB play like that is impressive.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I was just being a smart ass

      • New Age says:

        I honestly forgot how bad Dilfer was. I remember him being terrible but then I thought, “how bad could he have been?” The years had mellowed my thoughts on him until I looked the stats up again. Whew, ugly.

  132. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, just happy for Tannehill, that’s all. It’s a good story.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      It just has no effect on the Dolphins

      People don’t get like this to never Drake or Landry

      Personally I’m rooting against him
      Not bc of him, but just so he woolens stop talking about him

      He’s not a Miami Dolphin anymore

      I think people are so used to defending him for years it’s like second nature to do it now

    • Ken says:

      I also still like Drake and Landry but they are not in the playoffs

      • Tim Knight says:

        I was happy for Drake when he had some big games with ARZ too. Landry chirped a bit too much on his way out and he’s been gone for two years now so I don’t root for him.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I feel exactly the same, Tim. Landry burned bridges, the other guys didn’t.

  133. New Age says:

    Tannehill looked really good in really limited action. This could be his year. Flacco was terrible except for one post-season. Foles has never been great…except for that one magical post-season. Eli had two really good years in a 16 year career. You just need a few things to go right and Tennessee is doing everything right.

    I’d love to see Tannehill get a ring but I’m already sick of the local media and I don’t subscribe to any of them. Journalist may be the worst profession in the world. I trust politicians as much. Now we just have to build our offense in a similar fashion. Start with Swift in the backfield and some big uglies.

    • steveccnv says:

      This is in response to New Age talking about journalists, no telling where it’s going to show up. I tried 5 times to hit reply and get it to responded properly.

      That’s why I call journalists U75, for under 75 IQ. These guys certainly have an agenda, and like to get hits, but they really are the stupidest people on the planet.

  134. Ken says:

    I stand by my Tannelove. I liked him when he was here and I am rooting for him now. He may not be elite but he is good enough. To all those saying the Titans success is all Henry it was Tannehill’s 2 early TD passes that allowed the Titans to play with the lead and lean on Henry

    • CavalierKong says:

      Tennessee had the same Henry, the same oline, the same defense for the first 6 games of the season and they stunk. We all know Tannehill isn’t a guy that can carry his team like Wilson or Rodgers, nobody is saying that, but he is a necessary factor in the Titans success, not just an add-on.

      Sure, he is in the prefect situation to maximize his skill set and minimize his weaknesses. And he has been doing his part with timely running and deep ball accuracy all year. I haven’t seen any Tanny lover on here talk about how Tannehill has taken the Titans on his back and won all these games by himself, but people still feel the need to disparage what he has done.Most people just can’t admit when they are wrong.

      • Ken says:


      • steveccnv says:

        That’s what I’ve been saying, when they play him to his strengths, and the running game is working he’s good enough. When did he have the most success in Miami? When Ajayi was running wild, the OL had Albert’s, Pouncey and James, and RT was able to use play action.

        RT got big throws when using play action, including the bomb to make it 14-0.

        Look at the game against Houston without Henry for the division, RT was a deer in headlights in the pocket and didn’t get it done.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Steve, not sure what you mean. Henry played in that game and Tanny actually had a slightly better statistical line than Watson did in that game. And the Titans lost by 3 in a tough divisional game against a good opponent.

  135. manitobafinfan says:

    And d to answer your question Mike.. No I don’t want us to sign RT , certainly not for upwards of 30M per year.. would undermine all the work that was done this year and make us look really dumb..

    # buildforthefuture

  136. ElephantRider says:

    I have 2 things to root for this playoffs. GB losing and RT17.

    And no, I don’t want RT17 back. That ship has sailed. I will always like the guy and enjoy all the success he gets. I think he has earned it, whatever you think his skill level is.

  137. Mike E. says:

    I guess the reporters saying stupid shit like Dolphins fans curl up in the fetal position as RT leads the Titans in the playoffs. That just makes me mad. We did the right thing letting him go. He’s no superstar, he’s just on a really good team right now that makes his job significantly easier than he had it here. That is an indisputable fact. I can’t root for ex players usually, once they’re gone, they’re dead to me. That’s more problem than anything. I know RT never asked to be out of here, and I appreciated him and defended him whilst he was here, but now he’s on the Titans. Glad they beat the Ravens cause I hate them, but the notion that we let a superstar QB go and TEN got him for nothing etc etc. just irks me.

    • CavalierKong says:

      They also said we were tanking all year. Screw them. I’m happy we moved on from Tanny. It was time to part ways. I really am just enjoying that the Titans just knocked the two biggest douchebag teams on my list out of the playoffs in back to back weeks, lol.

      • Mike E. says:

        I hear ya, and I’m also happy they beat the Pats and Ravens, they are #’s 1 and 2 on my shit list. I just hate the narrative that the Dolphins are so stupid, they had Tannehill and let him go. Those same reporters shit on him for 8 years while he was here and one of them still has a shrine of Garrard’s jockstrap.

  138. Ken says:

    I would have no problem if we resigned Tannehill. It’s not going to happen. The Titans are not going to let him go. It would not shock me if he wins a SB or 2 with that team

    • Mike E. says:

      Wow, no problem? That’s shocking to me. He’s still Ryan Tannehill and with a lesser cast he would have here you’d just be coming here making the same excuses we all made for years, he has no blocking, no run game, no defense etc. If we got him for $1.8M per maybe, but at $25-30M it would be a clusterfuck of a mistake.

      • Ken says:

        I don’t think so. It was always my contention that he wasn’t the problem. It was our inability to put a sufficiently talented team around him

  139. Ken says:

    It’s funny I remember arguing that Tannehill will be the QB having the most success out of his draft class over Luck and RGIII and strangely enough I may be right

  140. steveccnv says:

    Whatever RT does in these playoffs will only further hurt the future of the Titans. With each win his price goes up, which will reduce the help the Titans can get.

    $30M for RT next year and the past tells us, that Henry likely won’t be close to what he’s been thus year, as someone said above, this is Joe Flacco all over again.

    • CavalierKong says:

      I don’t want Tanny back, our exes should stay in Texas or Tennessee, and my support of him would stop in the $18-$20 mil range, lol. No way I’m paying top dollar for him.

  141. ElephantRider says:

    Come on Steve.

    No Pack No!!

  142. steveccnv says:

    I don’t think there’s any debate RT is better than Dilfer, his SB year the Ravens had 5 straight games with no TDs and won them all I believe.

  143. Ken says:

    I owe Steve a beer 🍺

  144. steveccnv says:

    Cav the Tenn Houston game I was referring to, might have been the first game.

    • CavalierKong says:

      The first game is the one I was referring to. The 2nd game Tenn stomped them because Houston rested their starters. Not a big deal, your other points are still valid.

  145. Mike E. says:

    Ken – OK, so you’re saying you’d pay a QB “who’s not the problem” $25-30M per season? There are 30-40 QB’s out there right now who also aren’t the problem that could succeed with the league leading rushing attack, good defense and good coaching. We can draft a “who’s not the problem” this year in the 2nd or 3rd RD.

    • Ken says:

      The Titans are going to do it and probably be very happy they did. I am not really thinking about it too much because it is not going to happen. I just have a different opinion of him than a lot of people here do

      • Mike E. says:

        The Titans probably should do it, because he accomplished things there. He’s proven he can win there. My guess is that not many other teams will feel that he’d be the answer for them, but that’s just my opinion.

      • Ken says:

        I am guessing there are several teams that would go big for him including San Diego, Tampa and maybe even New England but I think Tennessee will franchise him before they let him go. We will see what happens in the off season if I am right or wrong

  146. CavalierKong says:

    I want to see Seattle win because I don’t want the Niners to have the easiest path to the SB in NFL history. Minny was way overmatched, and so is GB. Seattle will likely give us a good game next week at least.

  147. Tim Knight says:

    Reporters seem to forget what they said in the past. They always change their tune to make themselves look smart when in reality they expose themselves as hypocrites.

  148. Tim Knight says:

    I don’t see the Dolphins signing Tannehill. We already moved on from him and we’re still in rebuild mode. The Titans should re-sign him, why wouldn’t they? He’s a good fit there.

  149. bailbondmike says:

    I am just rooting for RT and KC to beat Texans.

  150. ElephantRider says:

    Think one thing we all can agree on is there’s absolutely no chance RT17 is signed again by the Fins. Lol

    But man….it would be epic hearing and reading about it. LMAO

  151. Rockphin says:


    Rather be right than good….

  152. D says:

    I’ve had a somewhat surreal Twitter experience recently. Richmond Webb who has been my idol OL from the era phins I have been alive to see, responded personal when I followed him thanking me for following him. A few tweets back and forth and I’m sitting here trying to figure out if this is a dream or am I actually having contact with a man who I use to watch very closely to help me improve my technique as a LT. I know Mikey has had a similar and even more real life experience with Zach T, but I feel like a giddy kid considering how influential he was for me as a younger footballer. Really down to earth guys like he and Zach who played as damn well as they did deserve to be in the hall.

  153. bookman11 says:

    I am right in line with ER, I am cheering for RT to keep winning and the Packers to lose.

    • D says:

      Not in argument to your post, but I differ in my thoughts on pulling for one team or another and it has nothing to do with a player, former phin or not, liking them as a person or not. Maybe that’s the difference here, and like Mikey said, I pretty much am tired of the rhetoric every time a former player does something good like look how inept we are as an organization. Again, I’m glad for him, and all the rest of the Titans for that matter. They are the AFC team I’d rather see in the SB, but it doesn’t have anything to do with Tanny, or Wake, or any other player.

      • bookman11 says:

        Well, gor me, I am cheering for the Titans because you f Tammy. I’m liked him when he was here, and I wish nothing but the best for him in these playoffs. It would be different if it impacted my cheering for the Dolphins, but it doesn’t.

  154. D says:

    Wow the chiefs are choking too

  155. Ken says:

    Chiefs imploding

  156. bailbondmike says:

    I don’t want to see another Texans/Titans game. LOL

  157. Mike E. says:

    Fuck! Draft pick keeps slipping . . .

    • D says:

      Where it would be right now is where is same basic tier player as if it was pick 32. No need to sweat it

    • Ken says:

      This is why I was not crazy about that trade because I knew the Texans were going to have a good pick. I know it was still good value but not as good as people thought it would be

  158. bookman11 says:

    Too bad Wake isn’t healthy, I would be cheering for him also

  159. ElephantRider says:

    Nobody is bashing the Fins for getting rid of RT17.

    The way the players change teams now, after the Fins, I only have a very very small amount of interest in the rest of the teams. So I cheer for a player I like. And hope for loses for a group of other teams. After that I just enjoy watching football

    • bookman11 says:

      My thoughts exactly

    • D says:

      Pretty much the only time I pull for a player that not a phin is if I have them on my FF team. I have no vested interest in players that aren’t on our team. That said Titans are probably the closest thing to a second favorite AFC team I have, it’s close between they and Houston. We have former players on either team, but I’ve liked those two teams well before that was the case.

  160. CavalierKong says:

    The Andy Reid effect on full display.

  161. Ken says:

    Damien Williams. I always liked him going back to his days at OK

  162. Ken says:

    Now Texans imploding

  163. CavalierKong says:

    Oh yeah, fun game now!

  164. Ken says:

    Mother Fers just attributed the hook and ladder play to Fouts and said Chargers were down 24-0. I am about to go all Hulk

  165. CavalierKong says:

    Great first half.

  166. The Flying Pig says:

    I forgot the game started late today

    And I just returned from the gym and turned on the tv to see them setting up the fg attempt
    I thought it was the end of regulation not the end of the half

    And I was yelling at the tv “ does no one do math anymore?,”

  167. stangerx says:

    KC up 28-24 at half.
    Texans lose and we pick either #27 or #28.
    Texans win and it is # 29-32.

  168. Randy says:

    There’s been some crazy but good playoff football this year. I’ve been enjoying it.

    • stangerx says:

      Most of the games have gone down to the wire, especially last weekend. Blowouts are boring unless your team is the one with the runaway.

  169. bookman11 says:

    Game is getting away from Texans

  170. TOP SECRET says:

    I guess that’s why there’s 4 quarters in football. 🙂

  171. The Flying Pig says:

    No pass rush by the Texans

  172. wyoming85 says:

  173. stangerx says:

    Don’t want to jinx , but assuming the Chiefs get it.

    Packers win — #27 for us.
    Seahawks win — #28.

  174. Tim Knight says:

    This was one of the wildest playoff games I’ve ever seen.

    Turning point in the game, failed fake punt by the Texans when they should have never done that. They opened the door for the Chiefs and got steam rolled.

  175. Tim Knight says:

    Not too worried about whether we pick #25-28. 5, 18 and whatever is pretty rare.

  176. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – I’m not positive, but I believe the SOS situation is over once the regular season is done. I’m almost sure our pick is #25. The only reason our pick could get worse was if the Texans won the game and continued on.

    • stangerx says:

      Vikes and Houston both have the same record — what’s the tie breaker?

      • Mike E. says:

        Not sure pal, but if it was pick #25 before the game, and both teams lost, why would it change?

      • stangerx says:

        You got me to look up:
        For the playoff teams that got eliminated in the same round, their order is determined by regular season record.

        Overall ties are then broken by strength of schedule, which is a calculation of the combined record of all of a team\’s opponents in that year, with divisional opponents counting twice.

  177. wyoming85 says:

  178. wyoming85 says:

  179. Tim Knight says:

    Ken, no doubt Flores brought the Belichick defensive scheme with him to Miami. I like Patrick Graham the person but the scheme is not his. I don’t think anything changes scheme-wise. I think Flores wanted a more experienced OC in Gailey – QB development. It seems Josh Boyer earned Flores’ trust to be the next DC.

    We’ll see. Coaching is very important but talent is still key. Our offseason is huge.

  180. ElephantRider says:

    I like the in house promotion of Boyer.

    He had guys they picked up at Publix out there last year. And to me it looked like the first time in forever they weren’t running around confused like keystone cops.

  181. stangerx says:

    ER — glad didn’t catch that last FF game in live time (was on a trip). Would have thought was sitting all pretty and then started to sweat when Aaron Jones went crazy.

  182. son of a son of a shula says:

    Hey guys, Happy New Year!

    D, I’ve been friends with Richmond Webb for several years on Facebook and every year he gives me a personal Happy Birthday wish, it’s awesome. His Birthday was yesterday,

    I’m glad Tannehill is doing well – IN TENNESSEE.
    No regrets, #staythecourse

  183. bookman11 says:

    This game unfortunately is over

  184. steveccnv says:

    If GB and KC make it to the SB are they going to change the name of the game to the State Farm Bowl🤔

  185. The Flying Pig says:

  186. Ken says:

    I hate Pete Carroll and I fear Seattle will win this game

  187. The Flying Pig says:

    It will go unnoticed bc it was a huge gain

    But Adams should not have run out of bounds

  188. The Flying Pig says:

    Aaron Rogers looks like an extra who was cut from the movie the revenant

  189. Tim Knight says:

    Without any trades – we have 5, 18, 26, 39, 56 and 70.
    Nobody specific but I’d say at the end of the day we come away with 2 OL, QB, RB, Edge and DB.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Part of who we select is going to be affected by what’s left on the board

      I think you can add DL to that list and even a 3rd OL to your list

      I’m not sure if we don’t get that edge player by 39 that we can expect one at 56 or 70 bc the depth there thins out very quickly

      That 39 pick is very important imo
      Bc it’s right outside the first and can be a place we pick up edge or an OT or a center like Biadasz or one of those top 3 RBs
      I would love it if we can manage to hold off on RB and DB and build up front through picks 39
      Then get to 56 and still end up with one of those top 3 RBs or a DB that can push to start in 2020

  190. Tim Knight says:

    Josh Boyer actually has more experience than Patrick Graham. You’re not Belichick’s DB and CB coach for 10 years if you don’t get it.

  191. dloxahatchee says:

    I feel I owe Tanny a large amount of gratitude for saving this years super bowl party for another Pats drivel fest,
    Thank you again Ryan !

  192. Krishna says:

    Still amazes me how important defense is when it comes to success in the playoffs and SB. Both Pat’s and Raven’s O was shut down.

    To me, while there are so many holes, getting the defense to elite status as soon as possible will allow success sooner. And, I wouldn’t mind if the OL was part of that urgency, too.

  193. TryPod says:

    Jimmy Johnson and Troy Aikman got pretty emotional about his..(Johnson’s) Hall of Fame announcement.

  194. ocalarob says:

    go titans

  195. bailbondmike says:

    Piggy, RE: your daft you posted on twitter last night. I am not a fan of Tua at #5 but if the rest of the draft ended up the way you had it. I could roll with it. Heck yeah!

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