F.U. 2020 NFL Mock Draft

RD 1 Pick 1 – Cincinnati Bengals Needs (LB, OL, QB, TE, WR)

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  1. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    So based on , this still have a good shot at Ruiz.

  2. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Don’t expect clubs to be clamoring for y’all gm resume

  3. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    We needed up with Tua, Jones and McKinney
    Which is pretty much what a lot of people have been mocking for weeks to us

    Once you get past the top 15 of this draft – it’s a crap shoot
    I think we might be surprised at some of the names called

    • manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

      I agree McKinney will end up being either another OL or Swift … although there still seems to be quite a few OL coming up soon in rankings of what is left

  4. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Delpit
    Gross-matos
    Winfield
    Higgins
    Jackson
    Taylor

    Available

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I actually think all those guys might be 2nd rounders

      There just not that good
      The dofferecd between the 20th ranked prospect and the 50th ranked prospect in this draft is nominal

  5. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Swift and Delpit are both almost certainly 1st RD picks, we kinda missed on those 2 guys.

  6. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I seriously thought about Higgins at 26

    I don’t think it’s crazy to take a WR at 26
    All the safeties, OL, RB and DL at that time might be as good as the guys deep in day 2

  7. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tee-Hee

  8. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    It would be a lot more fun if the NFL promoted the entire league not the same 5-6 teams and stories over and over. It’s really fuckin lame.

  9. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Thanks for allowing me to play along. Was fun .. frustrating at times but still fun

  10. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Once you get passed those 4 OT, the top 3 WR, and guys like Chaisson and Kinlaw – it feels like the guy you grab at 18 will probably be there at 26

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      It’s just preference when you get deep into the first and that will probably continue into the 2nd

      It’s possible there might be good prospects into the third that could have went in the first, just bc if team needs and the way most of the talent is similar

  11. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Tomorrow we do The Who you want/who we take thing

    Burrow/Tua
    Chaisson/Jones
    Swift/ McKinney
    For example – not my real one

  12. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Grandma Cunt/D’Andre Swift

  13. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Tim that is quite true.. they still refer to us as pitiful defence… even if we don’t add any D in draft we are much more talented than last year already. Nevermind the injured guys that were not on field at years end

  14. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mike, all the pundits do is talk about how we got rid of players and we need a QB and OL and other playmakers because we cleaned house – no mention of what we did in FA. They spend 2 minutes on that while they lap the taint of Brady and Gronk to the point nobody spends that much time on the taint. LOL

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I listen to NFL radio and I never hear them talking about us. I try and watch GMFB and other shows on NFL network and I usually catch good stuff on us there. Where are you seeing this negative stuff? ESPN?

  15. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Zoom video ? I think would have lasted longer … insults , smart ass remarks , 6 people trying to louder than each other ??? You thought this was a shit show ?? 😀

    Wasn’t too bad. Y’all did good. Still faster than actual draft

  16. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim – You had to bring up GC? Now I can’t stop saying it. BTW I was actually laughing pretty loud when I first saw it. I was afraid I was going to wake up my wife.

  17. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    I ordered this years draft hat

  18. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LOL @ Toba!

  19. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I hope next season we change our unis full time to the throwbacks. Get rid of these pussy colors we have now

  20. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    K that did not sound right ….

  21. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mike, it’s not negative about us. It’s saying whoa Miami has so many picks, what are the possibilities? Then focusing on only QB and a dash of OL. Back in the day coverage in the draft was more in-depth. Now it’s more reality TV. I get it, just disappointed. We do our own research, but the networks give it to us like commercials.

  22. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mike, it’s not even about us – Phins fans. The NFL networks cover like 6-7 teams and the rest are like “oh… are they there too?” LOL

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I guess they cover who they think people want to see. We start winning they’ll talk about us more. I do think we need to earn that, we won 5 games last season, and even though we’re on an upswing, it’s still just 5 wins. Win 10 games we’ll be taken more seriously

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        In your dreams tonight will be Alexander the Great and his man bro are back in the saddle. LOL

  23. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Anybody buying the move up to 3?

    Excited for tomorrow. I’ll dvr one of the shitty stations…..then check in here and see if the sky is falling or super bowl bound. Lol

  24. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    LOL, that was a fun read. Thanks, guys.

  25. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Tonight it gets real. Looking forward to it. 🙂

  26. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Pig & Mike E

  27. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Really I go to sleep and find out you Fornicators picked an Alabama DB?????????
    WTF

  28. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  29. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  30. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Tuaday is the day!!!!!!!!

  31. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Both Mando and Omar are saying we are moving up to take an OT

  32. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    This draft for me really isn’t about getting 2 great players, it’s about getting a QB, if possible, then 4 or 5 quality potential starters. QB, 2 OTs, S, RB, G/C, and a run stuffing DT in the 5th. As a bonus I like Breeland in the 4th, haven’t looked at any other TEs.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      If we get quality players at these spots, I believe we’ll have very good shot at the playoffs, poor QB play or injuries could derail this though.

  33. rich0322's avatar rich0322 says:

    There may be a lot of disappointed Dolphins fans tonight.

  34. rich0322's avatar rich0322 says:

    I’ll be happy with a Safety, NT/DT, and OL help by the end of day 2.

  35. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Could be?????????????

  36. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    I’m going smoke screen on the trade up to #3 for an OT, because it accomplishes 2 things, if other teams buy it. First, if L.A. is interested in a QB and want to jump us, it gives them some hesitance of do we really need to move up to get our guy. Second, anyone else looking to move up knows they can’t touch what we have to offer, if we really want to move up.

    Us showing interest in moving up would also create a bidding war, and who wants that on a move up?

  37. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Im against drafting a short qb who was on an allstar team with weapons all around him. And injury prone. A im really against moving up wasting draft picks to get this guy

  38. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    If we draft Tua Flores will start him mid season, if he gets hammered by no fault of his own and loses games, the majority here will be moving up next year to get another qb.
    Just like they are doing with Rosen.

  39. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    If Grier and Flores take Tua with the first pick they are admitting they made a mistake last year.

  40. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Josh Jones is a reach at 18

  41. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  42. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Carrying 3 qbs on the roster is a mistake. Drafting Tua devalues Rosen
    So you probably wont be able to trade him you would have to give up a roster spot and carry 3qbs

  43. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    What about the LT from USC? isnt he better than jones?

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      He’s young (20) so he has big upside
      But he sometimes get dominated on tape
      They are actually similar prospects

  44. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Who I want/who we take

    Burrow/Tua
    Ruggs/Ruggs
    Swift/Swift

    I know no OT but this would be a hell of an arsenal to go forward with. I’m sure we get an OT in there despite my picks.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Tua/Tua
      Wirfs/Jones
      Jones/McKinney

      I actually think we may have nailed our mock on the Dolphins last night

  45. D's avatar D says:

    There is no such thing as a reach, there is when you make your selection based upon the intel you have. If they feel like they want him and he wont make it to 26 then you take him. Josh Jones isnt a reach at 18, not with how the draft fell.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Mario Williams comes to mind.

      • D's avatar D says:

        Not a reach. The team selected Jim when they felt like they needed to. Also, when can you call it a reach? In hindsight so was it a reach, you won’t know until several years down the road

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      The true logic test is you put a true 7th rounder in, in place of your pick, now is that a reach? Or so it’s clear, if you draft the guy rated #100 in punt average and you draft him in the 1st, is that a reach?

  46. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I’m pretty sure Miami is trading up to 2 and drafting a kicker.

  47. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I can’t understand trading up to 3, losing our 5, and picking a tackle. The scenario floated yesterday where we trade up, keep our 5, and pick our OT and QB makes a lot of sense, but losing our 5 and another of our 1sts to pick a OT…I think that will be one of the very few scenarios that I would be disappointed with.

  48. D's avatar D says:

  49. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Simmons/Simmons
    Becton/Becton
    McKinney/ McKinney

  50. D's avatar D says:

    Lol I just saw a kid with friggin spinners on his bicycle. WTF.

  51. TryPod's avatar TryPod says:

    So today we Tag ourselves to Manti Tu’a. I hope the kid makes it, but I am extremely leery.

  52. D's avatar D says:

    steveccnv says:
    April 23, 2020 at 11:24 am

    The true logic test is you put a true 7th rounder in, in place of your pick, now is that a reach? Or so it’s clear, if you draft the guy rated #100 in punt average and you draft him in the 1st, is that a reach?
    ———————————————
    No thats fucking stupid 🙂

  53. D's avatar D says:

    My point is “reach” is subjective, and its subjective based upon the observation from an external person to the selection made internally. So if your opinion is its a reach, doesnt mean its so, it means you feel it is, but the people who have the information, and know their board may not see it as one, and liekly are much better at making that determination than you. They are throwing fucking darts at a board, they know what player they want and when they feel is the right time to select him, therefore nothing they do is a reach, it was done with the decision that, that was necessary.

    • rich0322's avatar rich0322 says:

      Works both ways. Stating there is no such thing as a reach, is an opinion.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        The only way to truly determine if a pick was a reach would be to know where every other team had that player on their board. Even taking that into consideration, if we have a player higher on our board than other teams, it may still be perceived as a reach but not by the people making the pick. Totally subjective. I think back to where the Giants had the #6 and #17 picks in last years draft. Everyone thought they were crazy that they took Jones at#6, he would definitely have been there at #17 but no one knows that. I think the Giants did the right thing there

  54. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Whomever we draft, even if we draft Tua, we will come away with a great haul of players in this draft.

  55. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tua/Tua
    Chaisson/Jones
    Ruiz/Ruiz

  56. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    D,
    You missed my point on Mario williams, although to be fair I didn’t give you much to work with, lol. I was agreeing with you. Everyone bashed the Texans for going williams #1 overall, but years later it proved to be the right choice. At the time, he was a reach, but you really can’t judge picks until years later.

  57. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Tua/Tua
    McKinney/some OT Tua being left handed throws that off.
    Jones/McKinney

  58. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Next year we do a zoom conference for the Mock Draft, it would have been done in about an hour. Would be more fun too

  59. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    mike why pick ruiz? didnt we just get karras& flowers wealso have dieter anddavis

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Karras isn’t a long term option yet. I’d love to get Ruiz at our 1st 2nd.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      These guys push oline up the board like they’re quarterbacks

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I guess mike can oink or himself
      But I’m in agreement in terms of the first round in that I don’t want to take a center bc of our signings and dieter

      But I do think a guy like cushenberry or biadasz makes a lot of sense In Day 2

      I think the thing about drafting a center is you can move the center or even Karras at guard and cover yourself if dieter doesn’t come around or flowers flops

      Also – generally the idea of us8ng a lot of these picks to build a dominant OL is appealing to me

      I wouldn’t cry about center in the first
      I worry that Ruiz is a little overrated and not much better than the other two I mentioned
      In fact, with the exception of his injury concerns, I think Biadasz is still the best center
      He’s just getting pushed back bc he played with injury this year and people are concerned about his injury

  60. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    cav the texans other choice would’ve been reggie’s bush, ithink they made the right pick

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Yeah, in retrospect that was the consensus. But at the time, they were bashed mercilessly. In my mind it is always the Prime example of why teams should ignore outside noise saying ‘this guy is a reach, or that guy is a reach ‘ and just stick to their evaluation.

  61. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  62. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Some GMs have publicly said all the mocks and rankings that people have out our there have been more wrong than usual

    And that most boards deviate a lot from the rankings

    You can really see that when you get past the top 15 or so
    Some of the guys in the 2nd or 3rd round that get picked tomorrow may have had a shot at being top 20 picks

    The draft is unpredictable than ever this year

    You add the Tua ambiguity to it and all the smoke being blown up our asses by FO (like our own) and this is the wildcard of all wildcard drafts

    I can’t say that any criticism of the players we may select are really justified – this draft is a little more fluid than most

    On the other hand if we trade up to 3 by giving up the 5 to take an OT, I don’t get that at all
    I hope that is bs

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      Why would we trade up to 3 for an offensive tackle when there are 4 of them ranked pretty high you would be sure to get 1 of them

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Yah, I’m not buying that. Makes zero sense.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      For some GMs to say the mocks are wrong is the smokescreen. They only know what their team is going to do, so by saying the mocks are wrong may just mean someone has revealed what they’re going to do and they’re trying to play it off.

  63. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    If the player turns out some all=pro years and HOF consideration, then it doesn’t matter if some interweb pundit say’s reach or not!

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Since the name Reggie Bush came up

      We should all be reminded of how much bs the phrase “reach” really is

      Remember the controversy about how could the Texans take Williams over Bush
      Reggie Bush would probably be a 2nd rounder if he was a prospect today
      The value of that position has changed so much

      Bush’s best year with the team that drafted him was his rookie year and that was only bc he had a lot of receiving yards, he actually never rushed for over 600 yards with the saints. They weren’t luck he fell into their lap bc of the Texans “dumb” move as was stated when it happened

      And that was just 14 years ago
      It wasn’t like there was no internet or advanced scouting
      There will be p,Ayers drafted over the next 3 days that may play 14 years

      Ranking prospects is not a science
      In fact people are saying less so than ever this year

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Yeah it does, reach really just means you could’ve taken him later and gotten a better player, than you took with your next pick at this pick.

  64. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Doesn’t flores want to build from the back of the defense up, if that’s the case wouldn’t Simmons be the correct pick at #5?

  65. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    I’m gonna ask this for your consideration.
    Do you think Isaiah Simmons (A tweener S/LB) will be a better defender than Josh Jones will be at LT over their career?
    If ;your answers no! Then why would one go at #3 and one be a reach at #18?

  66. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    ocalarob says:
    April 23, 2020 at 12:17 pm (Edit)
    Why would we trade up to 3 for an offensive tackle when there are 4 of them ranked pretty high you would be sure to get 1 of them
    Reply
    ocalarob says:
    April 23, 2020 at 12:19 pm (Edit)
    We could actually trade back a couple of spots in still come away with a very good tackle

    ****
    It makes no sense when you can sit at 5 and probably get the 2nd best one who might be 1 on your board anyway

    So who is the best OT this year
    🤷‍♂️

    So trading up for 5 for one makes little sense

    On the other hand trading up to 3 and keeping the 5
    Or trading up from 18 to get close to top 10
    For something involving an OT

    That makes a lot of sense to me

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      It doesn’t make sense to me, you would probably have to give up or next 4 draft picks to do that #18, #26, & both 2nd rnders. Griers MO has been to acquire picks not give them away.

  67. 13kvFINS's avatar 13kvFINS says:

    Hey Ya’All, hope you’re WELL!!!

    GOOAAAHHHH DOLPHINS!!!!!

    🐬🐬🐬🐬🐬🐬🐬🐬🐬

    1a)
    QB TUA, TUA, TUA, TUA 🐬
    LB/// Isiah SIMMONS,
    DT Derrick BROWN
    OT Mekhi BECTON

    1b)
    OT Jedrick WILLS,
    Tristian Wirfs
    Andrew Thomas
    QB Justin Herbert

    1c)
    S/ Xavier MCKINNEY/
    Antoine WINFIELD
    DT Javon KINLAW/
    Ross BLACKLOCK,
    QB Jordan LOVE

    2a) RB JK DOBBINS,
    Jonathan TAYLOR,
    DeAndre SMITH,
    Clyde Edward’s-Helaire

    2b) QB Jalen HURTS,
    OL Cesar RUIZ
    Josh Jones,
    Lloyd Cushenberry,
    Robert Hunt

    ((SEE 1c S/DT))
    3) DT Jordan ELLIOT,
    Raekwon Davis,
    DE Jonathan Greenard,
    S Jeremy CHINN

    GOOOAAAAHHHHH
    M. I. A. M. I
    D. O. L. P. H. I. N. S!!!

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I’m with you on the priorities and when we draft guys
      Makes sense to me to wait until the 2nd for a RB….maybe even the 3rd

      But those guys at 1b will probably be all off the board by 18
      That is my biggest concern this year

      • 13kvFINS's avatar 13kvFINS says:

        Howdy PIG,
        GOOD TO SEE’YA ALL!!!

        GOFINS🐬

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Oinks!

      • 13kvFINS's avatar 13kvFINS says:

        IFOURTEEN PICKS!!!

        I’m taking TWO QB’s

        Taking HURTS
        as an INSURANCE POLICY

        For the Obvious reasons

        to TUA, Love, or Herbert

        Not to Burrow if we were Lucky enough for Cincy to pass on!!!

        GOFINS!!!
        🐬🐬🐬🐬

        GOFINS!!!

        HURTS be the perfect INSURANCE POLICY to all,
        ESPECIALLY TUA!!!

  68. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Ruiz will go 1st RD, I’m willing to bet on that. Second of all, Karras started one season, and that was on the Patriots. No holding calls last year, but this year? He’s on a one year contract. Ruiz is the best center in this draft, go get him for the next 8-10 years. I’d like to take Ruiz with the 253rd pick but fuck guys, he won’t be there! I’m willing to bet he’s gone in RD1. Who wants the action?

    • 13kvFINS's avatar 13kvFINS says:

      I agree on RUIZ

      Had to get the names out there
      in some sort of orderly fashion

      OR my 2A would have had 20 guys on it,
      LOL

      Dont matter to me where we draft them,
      As long as 3 to 4 of my 26 become FINS!!!

      GO

      MIJAMI 🙃

  69. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Somehow better. All the Tua/Herbert/Love hype and the OL evaluations
    I must have missed that Isiah Simmons ran a 4.39 at the combine

    That guy is amazing

  70. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    2 names I see falling from their supposed draft value!
    Isaiah Simmons
    Mekhi Becton

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      For us to get either at a discount (meaning not #5)….. would probably mean trade up unless one is really jumping off a cliff.

  71. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Hey KV! What up!!

  72. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  73. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Ask for smoke screens I’ve read that Greer doesn’t play that game

  74. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Piggy,

    Yep, and it wasn’t just Bush that was valued over Williams. Most pundits and fans thought the Texans might take Vince Young (if not Bush) since he was a ‘home town’ boy. I still remember all the talking heads shock when the Williams pick was made. This also kind of leads back to our conversation yesterday too. Gms and talent evaluators shouldn’t be swayed by the outside voices, and if they are, they are doomed to fail. They need to stick to and trust their evaluations.

    I look at it like this: If you have a guy projected to be a 5th rd pick, but you think he is a top ten talent ( I know this is extreme), and you take him at #8 overall and he goes on to have a HOF career. Was it a reach?

    Talent-wise it wasn’t a reach, so no on that front. Then to address the idea of “well, he would have been there in the 5th rd, why not take him in the 4th?”

    OK, but what if another team also realizes he is a top talent, and they also decide to ‘reach’ to get him and you miss out on the player?

    It’s a bunch of noise, and I genuinely think most GMs and FOs pay a lot less attention to us and the pundits than we realize. We’re not nearly as important as we think we are, lol.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      That is the motivation that makes GMs reach. How the guy ended up or how you portrait him doesn’t stop it from being a reach.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        If the team has that player valued at a certain spot, that is the spot they have him valued at.

        What you are saying is a reach is only in the minds of fans and talking heads. The idea of a ‘reach’ is meaningless. It’s just a noise contained in an exhalation of hot air. How the player ends up is exactly what matters, not what we think of when he was taken, lol.

  75. rich0322's avatar rich0322 says:

    OMG, I can’t believe how much fuss is being made over the word “reach”. People are only given their opinions on prospects.

    I sometimes can’t stand all the bs that goes with the draft.🙄

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      THIS is the conversation you can’t believe? Are you new here? LOL

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      This is a preemptive strike by the anit-reachers against the reachers. Tonight, when the Dolphins pick someone much sooner than expected by most pundits boards, we’ll be ahead of the game by already having had this whole conversation….

      Ok, now the real world: The truth is, Rich, you’ll get to enjoy this exact conversation in an instant replay, hashed, rehashed, and done all over again in just 12 short hours!!! LMAO

  76. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Steve – You’ll never know whether another team may have been interested because they’re not going to come out and tell you. Just because a whole lot of evaluators projected that player to go at pick number 70, that doesn’t mean you wait until then. You get him where YOU have him on your board. End of story. The rest is just sensationalism by pundits, fans etc.

  77. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    And I’m guilty of yelling reach, but alas, I do fall into the fan category, so it’s warranted!

  78. rich0322's avatar rich0322 says:

    I hope we draft a OT, NT/DT, and safety in the 1st round. Have fun with that…

  79. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Frankly I just want to be able to scream “told you so” one way or another

    And setting up the “no one really knows anything argument” gives me the best odds

    As the great Mando once said, something will happen, or something won’t happen…

  80. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Just curious . . . Would a trade up and then a reach at the trade up pick be called a reach around?

  81. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    1992 and 28 years — that’s the last time the Phins took two players in the first round.
    Was Troy Vincent (7) and Marco Coleman (12).

    I’d actually be OK with taking just two tonight so long as it meant a 1st next year and another 2nd in this one.

  82. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Stanger you’ve been killin’ me lately, you’ll say something and out of the blue I’ll change my mind on what I want. I’ve been firm on no trade ups in the first, but now suddenly I’m ok with 2 picks in the first, trading up, even though you mentioned trading back, that I’ve been ok with.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Guess a case of “leser minds thinking alike” 🙂

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I guess I had that coming. In the past I’ve said why is it always great minds think alike…

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        You did get was including myself in the lesser minds category? Seemed calling us both great minded would be a bit arrogant. Even if we both know it is true. 🙂

  83. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Wasn’t Jeff lageman to the jets a reach?

  84. D's avatar D says:

    Steve the problem isnt Mike “splainin it” like its a real thing, its that some are talking about it like it is a real thing. No overly confidant use of the word and there would be no need to splain it.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      The U75s have cornered the reach market.

      Is it a reach, if one of them writes a draft theory story, and it doesn’t come true?

  85. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    You have to consider where the talent drops off and is more similar, why not trade back when that happens and get more for your buck.

    • D's avatar D says:

      They do, when thats how they see it, or at least they attempt to.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      I would argue that at #5 a little room on that unless you want a QB. Both #18 and #26 are wide open for a trade down unless they have their eye on a particular guy.

  86. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Time seems to be slowing down?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Wait until 8pm, if you think time is slowing down now. I should have already been trying to park near Belagio.

  87. D's avatar D says:

    Phelon,

    I had, as a fucking joke lol, suggested that when we were all saying trade back with Raiders for 12 and 19 and i said and then trade up to three with 12 and 18 and maybe 39 if needed, move to three trade 3 and 5 to 1 and then have 1 and 26 or trade back with the raiders again from 3 and get our 5 and 18 and 39 back and be back to where we started plu an extra first lol I mean you could go on and on with dumbass possibilities. I bet if i took the time on it i could find a way to get us half the first round.

  88. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    All this anticipation, the waiting, the draft will start. First selection. Cincy has traded the #1 pick to the Dolphins for all 3 of their firsts and both their 2nds. And we Dolphins fans have nothing more to look forward to until late Friday, lol.

  89. D's avatar D says:

    D says:
    April 23, 2020 at 1:25 pm

    How much longer before i get to see my enemies crushed before me and hear their womanly lamentations? what 6 and a half hours?

  90. markeyh's avatar markeyh says:

    Draft Day Is Here,,,,hoping TBPA at 5

  91. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    A reach occurs when a team goes away from their board and where they have guys slotted. If you have a guy valued as a second round guy and you pick him in the first, that’s a reach. It doesn’t mean the dude won’t end up being a good player, but you still reached based on where you had him slotted. How fans or media evaluate a player has nothing to do with it. But, a team can reach based on their own evaluation. It doesn’t mean it’s wrong or a bad idea, but it’s still a reach.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      OK, but how would anyone outside the organization know when that occurred?

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      I can adjust my opinion to agree with this.

      Of course, the next time a team comes out and says, “yeah, we liked this guy in the 4th but accidentally took him in rd 2” then you’ll have been proven indisputably correct. 😉

    • markeyh's avatar markeyh says:

      I agree that is why if Miami grades any of these QB’s high then take him. if not take TBPA!

    • D's avatar D says:

      Thats my problem with your statement as well Randy, how do you know they did that? The reach as it was being used on here was based purely on other peoples opinion of where they should draft a guy. How do we know that Josh Jones is a reach at 18, do you know where they have him slotted?

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I agree with D, reach is an English word. What do we know about English words? They have many meanings.

        Randy’s point is one we hadn’t rendered yet, so…

  92. markeyh's avatar markeyh says:

    I still feel Josh Rosen deserves a fair chance to compete against Fitz this year and next year we draft competition for Rosen

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      That depends on how our coaches and FO feel about Rosen. I’m actually fine with that if they feel he has it. I just haven’t seen enough yet to make me feel that he does, but boy, we can really build a team with these picks.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Yeah i mean who wouldnt want a return on that investment, id like him to have his shot, but from all that i have seen, that ship has sailed. We will know in a few hours what that decision is, and like i said im just as happy with you being right on that. Id like to see him turn it around.

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        From all you seen? He is only played a couple of games, and in those games we had an overwhelming under talented offense of line and running game! Nobody has seen enough of Rosen to make that determination.

  93. markeyh's avatar markeyh says:

    I have Tua ranked 11th on my Big Board and Borrow 9th so the QB is not in my top 10 list

    • D's avatar D says:

      Ok but is your list theirs?

      • markeyh's avatar markeyh says:

        No, I can only say what I will do because no matter what you hear NOBODY knows what GM Chris Grier will do

      • D's avatar D says:

        Exactly. So thats what im saying. We can judge a trade up as bad, because 1 we dont know who he is trading up for and why. If he trades up to 3 and takes an OT i can tell you with most likelihood its for an OT because they leapfrogged NYG to get the top one. That means either they are fairly sure NYG wont turn around and trade the Chargers pick 4 so they take Tua, or they dont care if they get Tua or Herbert. Which whatever OT was picked at 3 might well let us know which QB they want.

  94. markeyh's avatar markeyh says:

    Answer this: What QB in today’s draft would have beat out Fitz last year and how would they have fared under the same situation Rosen found himself in?

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