The Tua era begins!

Get used to seeing this, this image is the future of our team. I thank Ryan Fitzpatrick for his dedication and his leadership and the inspiration he provided for our team, the Miami Dolphins. His enjoyment and enthusiasm was infectious. I’m not going to disparage Ryan Fitzpatrick in order to make it clear why Tua should be starting. If we can look at things and detach ourselves from Ryan Fitzpatrick the person, you can realize that it’s been the defense and its improvement that has changed the fortune of the team, not the play of the QB. Fitz is pretty up and down and while he’s having a good season, don’t be lulled into thinking it was great. Now the team is finally scoring over 25 PPG but in this NFL, decent teams do that. The main reason we’re now 3-3 is because our defense is allowing only 18.8 PPG, good for 4th in the NFL.

Before the 2020 NFL draft, and before the injury to Tua Tagovailoa, Tua was considered the most pro ready NFL prospect and possibly the most talented. Yes, Joe Burrow had one epic season but Tua had been doing it for longer, getting better each season while starting a high floor to begin with. I think the plan was to use the BYE week to give Tua the maximum amount of time to get reps in practice. Unfortunately due to COVID-19, the NFL was forced to reschedule a few games which led to a change in our BYE week from Week 11 to Week 7. Without any preseason games for Tua to get ready and get some action, this is the next best opportunity and the fact that it presented itself 4 weeks earlier is unfortunate for Ryan Fitzpatrick but hopefully ends up being better for our team.

We got a glimpse this past Sunday of Tua, 2 pass attempts, 2 completions for a total of 9 yards and he converted a 3rd down, the ONLY 3rd down conversion of the day for the Miami Dolphins. We can do better folks, we really can. That’s not a knock on Fitzpatrick but if we can’t convert any 3rd downs against the Jets, how can we do it against better teams? I feel like Mike Gesicki has once again become totally underutilized. He IS that TE we’ve been waiting for, we need to use him. The O-line has been getting the job done, even with the necessitated switch of Jesse Davis to LT and Robert Hunt to RT. I know many are worried now as to whether Hunt can protect Tua’s blind side but the coaches are aware and will work around it. Tua can move and he will get rid of the ball quickly. Myles Gaskin has carried the load and the load continues to progressively increase. This is good. We haven’t had that kind of consistency with a RB since Jay Ajayi was here. Thankfully Adam Gase isn’t here anymore so Gaskin is safe.

Look to the future, both immediate and distant and be happy #1 is now our QB. Be excited! Let yourself feel the energy of having an elite talent at QB. This is what you have waited for so don’t be shy, nervous or otherwise, embrace it! This is a great time for our team, you can see that things are coming together, and we’re in year 1 of the rebuild after the tear down. The defense we were complaining about earlier in the season is playing as well or better than we all hoped they would at this juncture. Be excited! This is what we live for as Dolphins fans so don’t squander it with “What ifs” and “How come now”, just be freaking elated that we’re just a game out from being atop our division and our best football is yet to come! Oh, and be excited that the Bi Week Babe is coming to a blog near you very soon, as early as this weekend!

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1,138 Responses to The Tua era begins!

  1. steveccnv says:

    Tua Tua Tua

    • steveccnv says:

      It’s like the Queen song Radio. All we hear is Tua goo goo Tua ga ga…

      • Mike E. says:

        I think we’re also hearing what a big mistake we’re making. I just don’t believe that to be the case. The best teams have to be able to pass to win, all the best teams score in bunches and you have to be able to pass to keep up. Fitz can only be that guy every now and again when he’s Fitzmagic. Tua is our best chance in that regard and although it may not happen overnight, he’s our best chance to go far this year and beyond.

      • steveccnv says:

        You gotta make the move to the future at some point, might as well be now. I just hope we don’t have the growing pains that Cincinnati and the Chargers are facing. Burrow and Herbert are performing good, but not good enough to win.

  2. steveccnv says:

    When we signed Fitz I was glad they chose him. I expected it to be more of a fun offense, instead of the not another 3rd and long we have no, Tannehill, chance of converting. I thought we’d have a chance to win some games, because of how he can elevate his play on certain weeks, but also knew the Fitztragic too.

    I’d like to thank him for what he’s brought to us the past 16 games.

    Now its Tua Time. Do, do, do do Tua Time, can’t touch this 😏

  3. ocalarob says:

    we were not able to convert a 3rd down until Tua came in? and we won 24-0?? that’s very puzzling, maybe it’s because we were converting on 2nd and 1st downs.

    sounds like CNN

    • Mike E. says:

      1-9 on 3rd down efficiency. 24-0 means our defense kicked ass. Offense, meh. If it was the Chiefs it would have been 45-0

      • steveccnv says:

        I hate when people say shit like that, you’re probably joking, so this isn’t for you, It wasn’t the Chiefs, if it was we would’ve had a different game plan and called more aggressive plays. You don’t have to be aggressive to beat the jets, so why take the risk?

  4. stangerx says:

    Mike E – you are right to talk about the importance of the moment. No matter what happens. Twenty years from now are all going to remember what happens with Tua rest of the season. Lets hope we talk about the Rams game like Marino’s first one against the Bills.

  5. ocalarob says:

    i’m excited as anyone is to see what Tua can do, but not at the expense of the season. i would think this team needs more players and more time for the rookies we have to gel.
    my fear is they put Tua in then bench him like they did Rosen

    • stangerx says:

      My fear too, but thing is neither you, I or anyone else on this board knows how ready Tua is. Fitz has a much better idea though…. and he said the move has to be permanent.

      • ocalarob says:

        i dont think tua has the same skilset as fitz, tua’s a pocket passer and played on a team who most of the time played against inferior talent.
        he no longer has that luxury.
        fitz does what he has to, somehow i don’t see tua putting his head down like fitz does. lately that’s what it has taken to carry this team to victory

        who knows tua may be the 2nd coming of marino. i sure hope so

      • steveccnv says:

        No, that’s what Fitz had to do to carry us to victory.

    • Rhino says:

      2020 is NOT our season. Not with 3 rookie OL. I’m not in favor of thinking Fitz (on his 8th team) is the ANSWER. Are you fucking kidding me? Yes, let’s keep the 20 INT guy in so we can go 9-7 instead of 7-9 (sarcasm). I remind you: you can’t get to second base if you don’t take your foot off of first base.

  6. stangerx says:

    Trump’s twitter account got accessed twice by the same guy simply by guessing the password. In 2016 he guessed “yourefired.” Couple days ago he got in with “maga2020!” on the 5th try. He didn’t threaten war or anything…..just let Trump’s folks know their security is pretty lame.

  7. herdfan says:

    I know you guys are excited to see the new era begin. I think it might be too soon is all, has nothing to do with Fitz. I think the decision wasn’t Flores and that’s how it leaked.

    Hope it all works out.

  8. Mike E. says:

    Why are you all so worried about the timing? Are we some kind of juggernaut steaming over the NFL and on cruise control for a BYE when the playoffs start? If you can believe that the plan was to start Tua aafter the BYE, then that’s what we’re doing. We can’t help the fact that it happened 4 weeks earlier but it’s clearly the best time to get Tua ready, 2 weeks of practice and both of them getting starter reps. It makes sense, and again, we just hit .500, relaaaaaaax.

  9. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – That’s some crazy shit! You would think he would be more careful choosing his passwords, especially considering how much he utilizes his twitter account. Unbelievable!

  10. Mike E. says:

    Rob – I don’t want Tua running around diving forward to get a couple of extra yards while risking injury. That’s what a 37 year old guy who is playing on limited time can do. I’d rather Tua stand in the pocket and throw TD’s. I’d be willing to lose the QB running component to get more TD’s on the board.

  11. Mike E. says:

    Also, for reals . . . .Why are you comparing the skillset of Ryan Fitzpatrick to Tua Tagovailoa? I think it’s fair to say that 32 teams would rather have the skillset of Tua over Fitz. It’s not a negative, it’s a POSITIVE! Man, did you lament Marino taking over for David Woodley? Woodley took the Dolphins to a Superbowl!

    • ocalarob says:

      because i think we need more of a guy that can take it to the opposing ds more physically now with the current roster we have. not sure our ol can hold up to the time that tua may need. i don’t think they are seasoned enough with 2 rookies on the ol and one was a 2nd stringer.

      • stangerx says:

        Not a doubt in the world that Fitz getting the ball out quick has helped the OL. But one thing Tua can do is scramble and create. Might even out.

      • Mike E. says:

        Geez, it’s like you forget the Fitztragic games. I think Fitz running around like he did was reckless as hell. I don’t think it was sustainable. Some team was gonna eventually drill him and that would be that. We can be physical running the ball with our backs and by keeping defenders off Tua and allowing him time to pick them apart. I don’t think Fitzpatrick running for 10 yards here and there made us a physically imposing team, not by a longshot.

      • ocalarob says:

        Mike i don’t blame everything on Fitz, have you noticed our Roster over the last year? that’s what’s tragic.
        I think Fitz is doing a great job, matter of fact unbelievable job! you don’t pull someone on that situation.
        i’m not saying my views are correct, only time will tell

  12. ocalarob says:

    Stanger, You downplayed hunter bidens emails saying it was no big deal because Joe was seen in a pic with burisma guy. you’ve been downplaying Biden and promoting anti Trump all along,
    I’m not sure when it is “monumental” or not.

    we should stop talking politics however if you continue to bash the right you should expect retaliation,

    no big deal but maybe try to mix it up a little instead of trying to minimize your political statements when called out as it’s very apparent where you stand.

    those whom live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

    • Mike E. says:

      I didn’t think Stanger posted that as a political post. It was about his twitter account. I don’t think he meant anything by it, but that’s just my take.

      • ocalarob says:

        no big deal but his agenda is apparent, maybe he should bash Biden with the same enthusiasm, then it wouldn’t seem so “monumental”

    • stangerx says:

      I’ve called myself a NeverTrumper… how more apparent could I make it where I stand? And what did you really call me out for? I found the passwords funny. You act like I have some stealth operation going on. And I do hope that have also shown at least at times that will call out Biden (who is not my magic man) as well. I’ll certainly bash the far left all day long with pleasure. And on Biden dodging the court packing issue…..which bugs me.

  13. steveccnv says:

    He forgets Tua gets the ball out faster than anyone. Fitz scrambles pretty good once eludes the rush, but Tua is better at beating pressure and he throws more when the pocket breaks down than Fitz.

    Do you want to win maybe 1 or 2 games more this, make the playoffs and lose in the first round to Chiefs or Ravens at the expense of getting Tua ready for the future?

    Just remember the best window to win a title is in the first 5 years of a 1st round rookie QB, after that you have to pay him, so the talent around him is less.

  14. Mike E. says:

    BTW – Yannick Ngakoue to the Ravens. Man I hate that fucking team! Vikings don’t know what the heck they’re doing. I guess they only lose a round an a half on the 3rd RD pick but why pick him up and then trade him after 6 games?

  15. ocalarob says:

    steveccnv says:
    October 22, 2020 at 2:19 pm
    He forgets Tua gets the ball out faster than anyone. Fitz scrambles pretty good once eludes the rush, but Tua is better at beating pressure and he throws more when the pocket breaks down than Fitz.

    and you know this how? by watching him beat the arkansas red wolves 57-7?

    how did he do against Clemson?

    he’s never faced NFL talent before.

  16. steveccnv says:

    The way the D has been playing Flores might want a game manager. Aikman was a great game manager, because he was so accurate. I can see Tua being that type of player this year.

    Watching Aikman in the pro bowl in his prime it was obvious he was the best player on the field, to which I thought, why don’t the Cowboys let him throw more? Because they didn’t have to.

  17. Mike E. says:

    I’m one who is actually glad they’re going to cut off the mics when their time is up in the debate tonight. It actually drove me crazy last debate when Trump constantly interrupted, he looked like more of an asshole than he really is, which is pretty hard to do. lol

    • stangerx says:

      It’s the rules enforced. But in each segment there will still be 11 minutes with both mikes on.

      • Mike E. says:

        Oh really? I thought they were just going to allow one person to talk at a time. I’d prefer it that way.

      • stangerx says:

        15 minutes for each subject. Each candidate gets 2 minutes with the other candidate on mute…… then 11 minutes of anything goes.

      • steveccnv says:

        Now if they’d only turn the partisan moderator’s mike off too.

    • ocalarob says:

      that’s funny, i didn’t hear trump once personally attack biden, i did hear biden personally attack trump, and when biden was cornered he quickly tried to change the subject.

      when asked about his sons business dealings he called trump a racist. he deflects the questions instead of answering with unsubstantiated attacks.
      if you ask the wrong question youre a racist, youre a white supremacist
      cloud the issues tactic

  18. stangerx says:

    “The Buffalo Bills aren’t going to let money dictate their starting lineup. The team made a surprising move Wednesday, cutting guard Quinton Spain just months after giving Spain a $15 million extension.”

    • steveccnv says:

      I hate retarded U75 articles like this, that gives some hacks no shit Sherlock opinion.

      I do however like the info, the Bill’s FDup, thanks Stanger.

  19. steveccnv says:

    ORob it’s really interesting sometimes posting with you, like today. On football posts we’re generally not on the same thought process on politics we generally are.

  20. ocalarob says:

    steveccnv says:
    October 22, 2020 at 2:41 pm
    Now if they’d only turn the partisan moderator’s mike off too.
    LOL so we are going on our 2nd debate, it was clear who’s side Wallace was on, wouldn’t it be fair to let the right choose the moderator this time?

    i would like to see Tucker Carlson take a go at Biden, that would be must see TV!

    The ratings would be through the roof!

    • steveccnv says:

      5 debates for Trump, 2016 and 2020, and a town hall on moderated by liberals. Why?

    • stangerx says:

      Were you hitting on me for talking politics before? Seems it’s OK if you do.

      But heck yeah would be interesting if they had 3 debates and each side got to choose a moderator for one of them with the commission the third. Figure part of being able to be Pres is facing the fire.

      • ocalarob says:

        you started it, the gloves are off!

      • stangerx says:

        So now what you were having a real problem with is cool. I’m fine with that. I used to turn votes for a living and one thing am sure of is none can be turned on this board.

      • ocalarob says:

        I know the truth hurts

      • stangerx says:

        That makes no sense. Or what did you mean? If that votes can’t be changed goes for you as well….. which means we are just talking.

      • steveccnv says:

        Exactly Stanger part of being president is facing fire, something Biden has yet to face, if he wants to be president he should answer the the tough questions. “I’m not talking about that, the issue is this man…”
        Obama never did either.

        Trump faces the tough questions just about every day.

      • stangerx says:

        steve — I’m cool with that. But then why suggested. Will point out though that Trump spends a lot of time on Fox News….. so he at least likes less than tough Qs at times.

      • ocalarob says:

        isn’t Wallace a Fox guy?

      • stangerx says:

        Wallace is a Fox News guy but not a Trump guy….. least according to Trump.

      • ocalarob says:

        so how does that equate to less tough questions by Fox? Wallace was brutal against Trump.

  21. ocalarob says:

    stangerx says:
    October 22, 2020 at 2:56 pm
    So now what you were having a real problem with is cool.

    never had a problem with your political view, even if they’re wrong, i was just pointing it out.

  22. Mike E. says:

    The moderators have been awful, both in the debates and town hall meetings. My point was, Trump was ridiculous with his interruptions. That’s on him/ The bias of the moderators has been despicable, and Savannah Guthrie was worse than Chris Wallace

  23. Mike E. says:

    ocalarob says:
    October 22, 2020 at 3:10 pm (Edit)

    Also, the left suck at pool!

    Hey now!!!!! I’m on the right!

  24. steveccnv says:

    stangerx says:
    October 22, 2020 at 3:05 pm
    steve — I’m cool with that. But then why suggested. Will point out though that Trump spends a lot of time on Fox News….. so he at least likes less than tough Qs at times.

    How can you compare a guy that faces the MSM more than any president ever has, with someone who hasn’t taken 1 tough question yet? Wait I take that back, Trump threw one his way in the 1st debate and Biden called him a clown, then in a talk somewhere on the campaign trail a young lady threw one at him and he called her a dog face pony soldier, and another guy asked him one and he respond look here fats.

    • ocalarob says:

      Hi Joe, What did you have for dinner?

      • steveccnv says:

        You got me there, that’s a tough one for joe.

        And we didn’t even bring up his devices he uses to answer questions.

    • stangerx says:

      I didn’t compare them and actually agreed with what you said. Wasn’t a checkmate move on it…. just pointed out something Trump does as a mitigating factor. You cool with that? Cause didn’t seem to be on first read.

  25. ocalarob says:

    where would Joe Biden be without his teleprompter?

    I think pelosi and beady eyed schiff are posting the answers as they are asked on it.

    • stangerx says:

      Won’t be a teleprompter for Biden tonight. Interested to see how it unfolds.

      • Mike E. says:

        Was that a rule they put in, no teleprompters?

      • stangerx says:

        Never been any in the debates. But both candidates have their stored speeches on this or that in their minds. It’s sorta funny at times to see them take a turn from the actual Q and head to one of those.

  26. ocalarob says:

    Adam Schiff trying to pin Bidens sons emails on the russians planting them.

    is that why Bidens attrny was frantically tring to get them back?

    when you lie it’s always good to lie to people who don’t know the truth.

    and what’s really confusing is people are actually supporting these lies when they know them to be lies!
    and that is the people who cast their vote for the left

  27. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – I didn’t think they’d ever allow them but the way you said should be interesting made me think otherwise. I think Trump did Biden a favor by talking over him most of the time. I’d let Joe talk and let him trip himself up, but that’s me.

    • stangerx says:

      Trump just needs to seem like a reasonable person. A whole lot of people looking to believe he’s a centered guy cause they like his policies more, but are a bit scared of his stability. And heck yeah up until tonight Biden has just been letting Trump be Trump.

      • steveccnv says:

        Lol at his stability. More disinformation.

        What has he done that might make anyone think he wasn’t centeted?

      • stangerx says:

        150-some interruptions at the first debate. He got killed in the polls for that. And we are talking about the second debate.

      • steveccnv says:

        Lol at the polls, the fake polls. He talked over him every time he lied, if that means anything to you.

      • stangerx says:

        How do you know the polls were fake? Like a dozen of the most respected ones all said the same thing. Specifically on the debate and a bump overall that has remained.

  28. ocalarob says:

    the more you try to bury something the more people try to dig it up.

  29. Mike E. says:

    Steve – You think Trump seems reasonable or someone that is completely in control of himself? Fuck man, I voted for him but he behaves like a 5 year old who just had his cookies and milk taken away by his mommy. If he behaved anywhere near normal he would have this election in the bag.

    • ocalarob says:

      gee, how would you behave under his scrutiny?

      • Mike E. says:

        Rob – If I wanted to win the election I wouldn’t behave like he did. Simple as that. He can’t help himself.

    • steveccnv says:

      Yes, I think he’s in control of himself, if you go back and watch the 1st debate again you’ll see he’s in total control. He’s talking over Biden a lot, but Biden started it and he’s not irate, he’s not name calling, and he’s not out of control. He’s in more control that Biden was. Biden everytime he didn’t have a good response he name called or said one of those stupid come on man type of phrases, or said he’s not talking about it.

  30. D says:

    ocalarob says:
    October 22, 2020 at 12:34 pm

    we were not able to convert a 3rd down until Tua came in? and we won 24-0?? that’s very puzzling, maybe it’s because we were converting on 2nd and 1st downs.
    I think they are talking second half where we didnt pick up a first down at all until Tua came in, but i also agree that a mop up time first down isnt a world shaker lol.I think though you do have to temper that game with a first half to second half comparison, where Fitztragic was out there for the second half. I love the guy, and im in the group that thinks we could have probably rode with Fitz a few more games, but it seems the plan was aftyer BYE, and it only surprising because our BYE got moved up and so did their plan.

  31. Mike E. says:

    Rock – Why does Russia want Trump as President?

  32. Rockphin says:

    The fucktards are running rampant today I see.

  33. Rockphin says:

    It is not bias to call a liar a liar when he is lying. When the moderators call out Trump for is CONTSTANT AND CONSISTANT lies it is RIGHT. It is WRONG to let him lie on air and not correct it. That is why so many fucktards believe trump. Nobody will stand up and say “That is not true sir” and if they do he attacks them and says they are against him. They are against his CONSTANT lies.

    • steveccnv says:

      Lies based on the left’s fact checker aren’t lies. I can’t remember the last time Biden Pelosi Schumer Schiff or anyone else on the left actually made a true statement.

      Every Biden commercial is a lie. The last one I heard was he isn’t going to raise taxes on anyone making under 400K. Yeah sure Joe, you said yourself you were going to repeal Trump’s tax bill on day 1. That same tax bill that saved the average person $1800.

  34. Mike E. says:

    Steve – That’s cool, we saw the debate differently. There are always different points of view.

  35. Mike E. says:

    Rock – I didn’t read the senate report but if I remember correctly there was maybe’s in there but no hard proof of anything. What exactly is Russia making Trump do in your opinion since you strongly believe it? What’s the endgame?

    • steveccnv says:

      It’s all horseshit from those trying to protect Biden. No surprise he won’t ever answer any questions about it.

  36. D says:

    Lol calling one a liar while not calling the other one is bias. I agree with you though, i know Trump is a liar, and i know Binden is too, i can always tell they are about to tell one because their lips start moving. In this world of politics, if you think you have a truthful man as your guy, then you arent right, you just have bought stock in their manure and want to believe your shit isn’t as stinky.

  37. Mike E. says:

    LOL Krishna – Me too! That’s great

  38. Krishna says:

    Did I say I hate politics/politicians?

  39. D says:

    To be honest, at this point i would sign the presidency over to Biden if the deal came with Schumer, Pelosi and AOC on the streets never to return again

  40. D says:

    What would be fun would be if we did elections to where the second place guy had to be the VP for the guy who won lol. Can you see either scenario, Biden with Trump VP or Trump with Biden VP? that shit would be a daily saturday night live skit.

  41. D says:

    They should do the Senate and House like a lawyer jury selection, each side appoints one member to be the jury selection and they confer and cast out the ones they want to dismiss. Constantly could churn out the dick bags because the other side would definately put them on their list.

  42. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, what I said last night was Flores believes that Tua is best for the team right now. Whether he knows that or not, that is what he believes. Coaches sometimes go with their gut.

  43. mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    October 22, 2020 at 3:08 pm
    LOL — and I’ll be sitting next to you on the right side. Not sure why so many people have a problem getting that. I’m a Lincoln Project guy.
    Stanger, you did NOT just say you were a “Lincoln Project” guy, did you? Dude, that is communistic and ANTI-American (democratic Republic) in it’s values… and trying to indoctrinate children in the schools (just like Common Core). I get that you’re a “Never Trumper”, but REALLY???

    I’m losing a LOT of respect for you, friend. You really are a RINO, aren’t you?

    • stangerx says:

      Do you even know what the Lincoln Project is? Cause if you do it distinctly is not communist or left wing.

      And why the fixation on my politics? Certainly don’t have one on yours.

    • Krishna says:

      Don’t need to stand up for Stanger as he can take care of himself.

      I’ll just look around dude….it’s not the Republican party I grew up knowing. Not even close.

    • mf13ss says:

      I know EXACTLY what the “Lincoln Project” is, Stanger. Why am I so-called “fixated” on your politics? Because I thought for over a decade, you were a decent and honest broker of truth and justice. You are a former attorney, and I thought you had better judgement than most when it comes to these kinds of things.

      • stangerx says:

        Got confused when you called the Lincoln Project communistic. If the rest of your message comes with knowing what it actually is…… then our politics differ. I’m cool with that. How America works.

  44. Krishna says:

    A shout out to the The Lincoln Project. Never seen this backlash against one’s own party in my lifetime. Disenfranchised Republicans seeing their party go down in a Trump toilet.

  45. mf13ss says:

    Yeah, I’m somewhat bothered by switching to Tua in the HERE AND NOW, being Fitzpatrick has a very hot hand… it doesn’t make sense to me, really.

    However, it’s ALL GOOD if Tua balls out in this, his rookie season. We’ll see.

    I just feel bad for the Fitz, after all he’s done for us. I welcome Tua, all the same.

    GO PHINS!!!
    HELL YEAH!!!

  46. Mike E. says:

    Krishna – Saying former Republicans are watching their party go down the toilet is funny, because Trump beat anyone and everyone they put up against him, as did Biden for the Democrats. I wonder how many “former” and current Democrats will feel the same way if Joe wins. Frankly, he’s no better than Trump, even if some people would like to believe he is. He’s no better a human being, he’s just more practiced at hiding what he really is, and even then he gaffes and says some the stupidest things that are totally racially insensitive. In other words, if the Republican party was so great, how did Trump steal the election? Both parties suck!!!

  47. Mike E. says:

    Krishna says:
    October 22, 2020 at 5:45 pm (Edit)

    Don’t need to stand up for Stanger as he can take care of himself.

    I’ll just look around dude….it’s not the Republican party I grew up knowing. Not even close.

    I come from a staunch Democratic part household. Believe me this is not my parents Democratic party either, it’s a disgrace right now.

  48. mf13ss says:

    Krishna says:
    October 22, 2020 at 5:45 pm
    Don’t need to stand up for Stanger as he can take care of himself.

    I’ll just look around dude….it’s not the Republican party I grew up knowing. Not even close.
    It is crazy, Krishna… and I hear you. The Dems everyone grew up knowing aren’t the same (went further LEFT), and the Reps everyone grew up knowing aren’t the same (went further LEFT).

    It’s been said too many times to count, that JFK, TODAY, would be further RIGHT than even RWR.

    Something we ALL can agree on? Times are a changin’, bud.

  49. manitobafinfan says:

    Nice write up Mike E and I agree with ya 100%.

    Team is gelling and D is balling .. Fitz helped us get to this point, 3-3 and he helped Tua get to where Flo felt he needed to be in order to hand him the keys .. I believe the D has been good enough to recover from Fitz mistakes, we should be fine if Tua makes a couple .. No I do not want to see Tua diving head first at a LB .. I think he is going to be a smarter runner than that . I think he is also a lot more accurate and has more zip on passes than Fitz.

    It is time Tua see the future… at least not using Rosen coloured glasses.

    And yes would love for Fitz to join coaching staff.

    Out for the ride home.

  50. Krishna says:

    Ok….I guess I stepped into it.

    So, Mike E., you’ve actually seen disenfranchised Democrats develop a strategy, advertising campaign, very high level, senior party advisers denouncing their their president. Please enlighten me.

    No disrespect to your parents.

    I thought I was clear.

    • Mike E. says:

      No, what I’m saying is if Joe Biden wins you may see the same thing from Democrats who have become disenchanted. We’ll have to wait and see on this. I know many Democrats who are very unhappy that Joe is the Democratic choice now, I want to see how it looks 4 years later. Also, I expect Kamala will be President well before the term is over so we’ll see how that works out as well. I strongly dislike both of them, I see no redeeming qualities in either, just more of the same ole, same ole. Both spew lies freely just like Trump but Trump doesn’t even care what people think.

  51. Krishna says:

    If you think Trump is a unicorn, I would watch your back.

    • mf13ss says:

      There is no such thing as a unicorn, not even Trump. That’s how I roll, man. If it’s too good to be true, there’s something amiss…

      I do support President Trump, big time. THAT SAID, the very first time I feel he’s threatening the Constitution (I’m a Constitutionalist), I’ll call for his ouster, Krishna. THAT I can promise you.

  52. Krishna says:

    Beating the Republican slate and then Hillary was no great task, imo.

    • Mike E. says:

      That’s what I’m saying Krishna, the Republican party wasn’t all that if they allowed Trump to steal the party from them. There was one candidate from 2016 that I liked and that was John Kasich. He was pretty lifeless and vanilla but he seemed like the most decent candidate of the bunch and one that was probably as close to the middle politically. He got whupped though.

  53. Krishna says:

    I was a big fan of George Will and William Buckley back in the day, by the way.

    Smart dudes, imo.

    • mf13ss says:

      Me too, actually! But IMO, George Will revealed himself to be part of the “ESTABLISHMENT”. I used to enjoy seeing George Will on ABC’s “This Week”.

      Today, I cannot tolerate him. JMO, as always.

    • stangerx says:

      Krishna — my parents were friends with the Buckleys. Bill was my Dad’s political idol when he was youmg and then he got to know him and work with him. Used to come over for dinner now and then. Was pretty cool.

  54. Krishna says:

    Mf13ss, so you don’t think a wannabe autocrat like Trump breaks constitutional norms?

    Ok…I’m going back to delusional.

    • mf13ss says:

      Honestly, I think President Trump is going back to Constitutional norms: Faith and Family. I do realize that it’s not for everybody (I get it!), but I respect it. I don’t see a problem with it whatsoever. And that he’s focusing on US (America) first, is extraordinary.

      I mean… if we can’t fix ourselves, how are we to fix anybody else? These are time-honored traditions that still (and will always) hold true. I truly think he’s a good man, and I LOVE how he’s not starting wars, and bringing our kids back home! WAR IS BAD, SAD, and there’s no such thing as a ‘great warrior’ (~ Yoda).

      • Krishna says:

        Talk about a bubble….whatever.

        Not even close!

        I would never teach, cajole, expect loyalty while I’m lying my ass off. That’s cult shit.

    • Krishna says:

      Funny how you always show up with this when I post. But, anyone on your side, the imagery is blind….lmfao.


  55. Krishna says:

    I was considering John McCain, too, until he picked a lipsticked pig for a running mate. He must have had a hot flash.

    I reconsidered his judgement big time after that.

  56. Krishna says:

    And, to be clear, I have never voted for a president based on party. It’s always about the candidate and what I think they bring to the table.


  57. CavalierKong says:

    I think my views on Trump are well known, but I have a hard time believing the Trump Twitter account story.

    • Krishna says:

      You mean he really did tweet all that stupid shit?

    • stangerx says:

      Twitter has said didn’t happen, so you are probably right. That dude spun a good story onto my front Yahoo page though.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Ah, I haven’t checked today’s news yet, so haven’t seen that debunked. I usually get caught up here before anything else. I forgot the debate is tonight until I read it here. I may actually give it another watch. I am curious to see how Biden handles the Hunter questions and accusations.

      • CavalierKong says:

        or just a watch since I haven’t seen it yet, I swear, lol

      • stangerx says:

        Find it incredibly hard to think about anything else than watch the debate. What the heck is Trump going to do? Dude does not lie when he says he is good for ratings. If Biden wins cable news ratings will crash.

  58. mf13ss says:

    Know what pizzed me off more than anything today? The Vikes trading Yannick Ngakoue to the Ravens!

    Yannick has 5 sacks in 5 games started for the Vikes… and they TRADE HIM??? WHY?!!!

    And to the RAVENS of all teams??? WHY?!!!

    Yeah, Mike E… I hear ya, man! I don’t hate the Ravens like you do, but that was just WOW… as in WTF?!!

    • CavalierKong says:

      I guess the silver lining is ‘at least it wasn’t the Patriots’ lol. Although to a lot of Fins fans, the Ravens are just as bad, lol.

      • mf13ss says:

        Yessir, I’m VERY HAPPY(!) the Patsies* didn’t land Yannick. But man… that Ravens’ Defense was a monster even BEFORE today’s trade. They are SICK on Defense, Bro!

      • Krishna says:

        I’ve always admired the Ravens defense back to the day they blew out Marino by 60 something points in the playoffs. I was like, WTF?

  59. D says:

    I actually thought she was what McCain needed to win, until she opened her mouth and then I was like oh shit John you just fucked up.

  60. D says:

    What was the company for Yannick before you ask the question as to why you might already have an answer right there. Everyone is available for a price

  61. Mike E. says:

    M – I didn’t always hate the Ravens, I think it started when we played them late in the season a couple of years when we were in playoff contention and they absolutely wrecked us. I have hated them since. Can’t help it. 🙂

  62. Randy says:

    I can tell you what they are saying about the Ngakoue trade and why it happened up here. The Vikes have pretty much decided their season is over, so they are making moves to get draft choices. Ngakoue is from the Baltimore area and so the trade just kinda worked for all parties. He may have brought more elsewhere, but they’d already kinda screwed with Ngakoue by trading FOR him and telling him they were a guy away from competing for a SB win….so they kinda did him a solid trading him to a contender, so people say, in his home area. Look for the Vikes to trade a few more high priced players.

  63. Mike E. says:

    Krishna – That was the Jaguars (62-7), Dan Marino’s last game as a Dolphins QB. The Ravens beat us when Penningtonm was the QB, they dared him to throw by stacking the box knowing Penny couldn’t throw deep.

  64. Tim Knight says:

    Krishna, that was JAX that beat Marino and the Dolphins 62-7 in the playoffs.

  65. Mike E. says:

    Steve – I just saw your reply at 1:59 to my comment about the score and the 3rd downs. I was saying if the Chiefs played the Jets it would have been 45-0.

  66. D says:

    I’d love for us to get theilen he would be a great receiver add for us. I wanted us to make that trade before the season started if ya remember. I’d be ok if we got him and just skipped receiver in the draft even though I’d really like to draft Waddle with one of our firsts.

  67. Randy says:

    I think Theilen would be great. I’m not sure they would trade him, but I’ll work on the trade! Lol

  68. D says:

    Krishna, it was the Jags 62-7 in Marino’s last game…… Sorry couldn’t help myself lol

  69. Randy says:

    Um, hey, just Incase you didn’t know….uh, that Marino game was against the Jags. 😏

  70. Tim Knight says:

    I don’t think we need Theilen with Parker and Williams. We need an explosive speed guy. Grant has great speed but he’s not a top level receiver.

  71. Randy says:

    MN has some pretty nice defensive guys I wouldn’t mind nabbing. Harrison Smith, Kendricks, maybe even Danielle Hunter if they’re nuts. Lol

  72. Krishna says:

    Memory is first to go? Although Mrs. K would vouch for me.

    I am horrible a stats, LT and ST memory issues, and basically get concepts, some details, and the rest is all bullshit.

    Not much left to remember, imo….lol

    • stangerx says:

      Memory gets less sharp with age, just the way it is. We all saw it in our grandparents., and our turn is coming up.

  73. Randy says:

    I’d put Theilen in the slot with Parker and Williams on the outside and watch him feast on single coverage. He doesn’t have to play on the outside to be effective.

  74. Krishna says:

    Something I will remember, Tua will have his first start on our anniversary. I hope it’s a good omen

    I probably won’t remember the year …lol.

  75. steveccnv says:

    Chris Carter talking up Tua.

  76. Mike E. says:

    Krishna – it can only be the best of omens. Two of the very best people

  77. Randy says:

    I don’t think they’d trade Theilen anyway. Jefferson is a stud. He and Theilen together give them a really nice starting duo.

  78. Randy says:

    Cousins would be horrible behind that Dallas OL. But, I could see Dallas giving it a shot. I think any QB is gonna struggle there.

  79. Ken says:

    Maybe Gase will trade Darnold to the Cowboys

  80. Randy says:

    I never liked Cousins either. I don’t think he’s an upgrade over Dalton but maybe Jones does. The Vikes screwed the pooch signing him to that guaranteed contract, so it’s gonna hurt to just get rid of him. They might be better served financially to keep him while they rebuild and draft his replacement. They’ve already paid him.

    • Ken says:

      If they could get enough pucks it might be worth their while. I do think he is an upgrade over Dalton whom I don’t think very much of at all

  81. Tim Knight says:

    Why would anyone trade for Cousins?

  82. olddolphan says:

    A BIT OF GOOD NEWS on Mrs. OD. Since her transfer from the hell-hole hospital to the physical therapy place, she HAS IMPROVED. Far better treatment is the key. Her new location is on a hard COVID Lockdown–no visitors allowed for the time being. But I can wave to her thru the big window on one side of her room (while we talk back and forth on our phones). Her original one day stay in the hospital before being sent home has turned into a full week as an in-patient, WITH NO END IN SIGHT!! We are hoping she’ll be allowed to come home to continue her therapy within the next 7 days. But, there are no guarantees at this point. It has been very tough on both of us. But, at least, now she is smiling and full of hope. It’s been a major ordeal.
    CAN’T WAIT until the full TUA ERA begins. It’s the start of a new era for Dolfans everywhere!!
    A SPOT in the playoffs is a VERY REAL POSSIBILITY this season!! I’M pretty sure most of you saw my prediction for the Fins this season (9-6-1 and a spot in the 7-team playoffs). I still believe that is a real possibility!!
    UNLIKE THE FINS, my alma mater, FAU, is destined to have a bad season under proven loser head coach Willie Taggert. FAU has played JUST ONE GAME this season, a 21-17 squeaker win over a weak Charlotte team. FAU’s other 5 scheduled games have been lost to the virus, partly due to the new coach’s inability to get the players to stop doing stupid things that only make the pandemic situation WORSE at FAU. I EXPECT a lopsided loss to Herd’s Marshall boys this Saturday (IF THE GAME IS PLAYED)!!
    This will be Taggert’s first, AND LAST, season as head coach at FAU!!

  83. olddolphan says:

    I KNOW IT’s BEEN SAID that the best College football teams would stand no chance against the worst NFL teams. THAT SAID, I’d take LSU’s undefeated team last year straight up against either tonight’s Giants team or Eagles team. In fact, I’d rate that LSU team as the favorites to win the NFC East if they were competing in that division this year!!

    Y’all have a great evening and a better tomorrow.

  84. manitobafinfan says:

    Watch replay of Daniel Jones run. Hilarious.

  85. ocalarob says:

    1st issue Covid
    Biden wants to shut down the economy again.
    that is a disaster.
    as trump said the cure is worse than the disease.
    shutting down this country is economic suicide.
    you can forget about Tua and the Dolphins there will be no sports.

    Joe brought up Hunter Biden mess saying he “maybe shouldn’t have brought it up” flat out lying about the issue saying it’s the russians. LOL blame it on the Ruskys.
    he knows where those emails came from, if it wasn’t true the new york post would be in big trouble for defamation, you can bet they checked it out before printing that story.

    and i guess the russians tucked Hunter Biden in bed with a crack pipe hanging out his mouth also. you would have to be a complete idiot to buy the russian hoax especially from the left.

    and if you don’t buy the russian theory then.
    Joe Biden is corrupt!

  86. Ken says:

    The Giants can wind up winning that division lol and smh

  87. sb7mvp says:

    Trumps biggest strength is also his weakness. He’s not a career politician so he doesnt know how to properly present himself in a positive light. He spends way too much time talking about himself positively and others negatively. I think Biden has won both of these debates, especially so in the second one. The first one he was bowled over by Trump, but in the process Trump made himself look worse. Biden has spent the last two debates focusing on the American people and Trump has yapped about himself and people who aren’t even at the debate. Joe was very skilled at being corrupt and presenting himself as caring. If I was an everyday person who didnt know what was going on in the world and was watching these debates I would be considering Biden. Unfortunately, I do know what’s going on, so I know both are just complete liars who dont care about anyone but their own crime families and how they can get more money for themselves. Sadly, we need true leadership in this country and I dont see it happening anytime soon.

    • steveccnv says:

      I agree with your first sentence, but I also think its true, because people listen to the media too much and believe them.

      Now take the opposite of that, what if Trump was a dem and the media loved him, then I don’t think people would be saying him not being a career politician was a weakness.

      • sb7mvp says:

        Then you would be wrong. Joe Biden’s greatest strength is also his greatest weakness and people are still pointing that out. I even pointed it out in the post.

    • steveccnv says:

      Except Trump’s net worth went down since becoming president, so…

      Biden didn’t win either debate. He won’t talk about Hunter, he basically lied about everything in both debates and when called out he laughed, as if to say FU I can lie and get away with it.

      We all know politicians lie, it’s part of the job, but there’s a difference in lying before an election on where you stand on things. No one knows where Biden stands on anything based on what he says, but we know where he stands. Trump has stood by what he said before he became president on the most part. It’s one thing to say you’re going to do something, but can’t work out a deal, it’s entirely different to do the opposite of what you said.

  88. ocalarob says:

    Its clear Joe was trying to tell what he thought the avg person would want to hear. The avg person is smarter than that. What he proposes is unrealistic. Add that to the fact that he’s corrupt how can you believe him

  89. ocalarob says:

    He said that the emails came from russia. Does anyone believe that? The head of national intelligence confirmed that didnt happen. So he’s trying to cover up his wrongdoings by blatantly lying. How can anyone consider voting for him?

    • steveccnv says:

      He also said, he didn’t take any money from these foreign adversaries, which is technically true. He got the money from Hunter.

  90. ocalarob says:

    Maybe the next election the dems can get bernie Madoff to run. He would be a better candidate than joe

  91. ocalarob says:

    Joe is going to become oil independent. Because it will help the climate. Trump asked what about china? Will they do that.
    What he’s proposing is unrealistic

  92. ocalarob says:

    The very worst is that joe said he will ahut down the country. And you can believe that. The dems have already shutdown dem run states like new york and people are fleeing from the area. Economic suicide

  93. steveccnv says:

    Joe lied about fracking, but even if he didn’t Kamala clearly states that she would ban it. Does anyone believe Biden can mentally function for 4 years? If elected Kamala will be the acting president at some point. Does that socialist/communist scare anyone?

    • ocalarob says:

      They went both ways on fracking. States that oppose fracking they are against it and the states that need fracking like penn they are for it. What a great political policy. You cant lose

  94. wyoming85 says:

    OD that is great news!
    I know she’s working very hard to get back home to your grumpy old ass! 😉

  95. steveccnv says:

    Who won the debate? We know the deck is always stacked in the dems favor, the moderators have all been dems and the questions are 95% dem talking points.

  96. ocalarob says:

    Lets not forget Joes magic solution for covid. We should wear masks that will solve the problem. Will someone tell the idiot we are already wearing masks

  97. ocalarob says:

    Ill admit im very biased. I learmed that from the left. So answering who won the debate is not a good question for me. All bets are off biden is not trustworthy Trump is and thats the bottomline.

    • steveccnv says:

      To define what I think you mean by trustworthy is doing after elected what you said you were going to do before elected. We all know Biden says whatever the current audience wants to hear, so he’s back and forth, then looks right into the camera as if to say I’m looking right into your eyes, so it must be true (like everything you read on the internet).

  98. ocalarob says:

    Biden will sell you out

  99. CavalierKong says:

    That run by Jones was hilarious, lol.

  100. D says:

    sb7mvp says:
    October 23, 2020 at 9:39 am

    Trumps biggest strength is also his weakness. He’s not a career politician so he doesnt know how to properly present himself in a positive light. He spends way too much time talking about himself positively and others negatively. I think Biden has won both of these debates, especially so in the second one. The first one he was bowled over by Trump, but in the process Trump made himself look worse. Biden has spent the last two debates focusing on the American people and Trump has yapped about himself and people who aren’t even at the debate. Joe was very skilled at being corrupt and presenting himself as caring. If I was an everyday person who didnt know what was going on in the world and was watching these debates I would be considering Biden. Unfortunately, I do know what’s going on, so I know both are just complete liars who dont care about anyone but their own crime families and how they can get more money for themselves. Sadly, we need true leadership in this country and I dont see it happening anytime soon.
    Completely agree with this. We no longer should call the US government the swamp, we should call it the Sewer because its filled with shit.

  101. CavalierKong says:

    Niners should be a tough game for the Pets, even at Gillette. Their defense is getting healthy, and I think they’ll run the ball well. Jimmy G’s ankle is two weeks better than when they faced us. I think the Pets go to 2-4.

  102. CavalierKong says:

    No doubt teams are lining up to trade for Jordan. Maybe we can get a 1st rd pick!

    • D says:

      lol yeah on those 5 carries he has had TD, so all he does is score!

    • D says:

      The could probably use Perry and Bowden back there too especially in an offense that is probably going to shift to more RPO.

      • D says:

        steveccnv says:
        October 23, 2020 at 11:41 am

        Jordan Phillips, Fuckface, and Howard. Any others?
        Jordan Cameron, Jordan Lucas

    • steveccnv says:

      The article I read said we should be shopping him. U75s do as they do and are called that because of it.

      If you shop him you get less compensation than, when teams call you.

      Seattle wanna make a trade for Jordan? What do you have in mind? A 3rd. Fuckoff, but I’ll give you a 7th.

      Seattle calling Miami, what do you want for Jordan? A 3rd. How about a 5th? Ok.

      • CavalierKong says:

        That Brian Miller guy writes the worst articles. I know he’s just a fan, not a ‘true journalist’ (whatever the hell that means nowadays, lol), but I can never get past the first paragraph, because he is just doesn’t get it.

  103. CavalierKong says:

    Anyone think we’ll make a move before the trade deadline? I don’t mean dumping dead weight like Jordan, but picking up a player from a team unloading talent.

    I also know there has been talk about trading Fitz. I’d be surprised if that happened, but that would count as a big move IMO.

  104. CavalierKong says:

    I know it’s a small sample size, but maybe we should just stop drafting and signing guys with ‘Jordan’ in their name, lol.

  105. wyoming85 says:

  106. CavalierKong says:

    Wilson outlines how AB has stayed out of the news, probably hasn’t raped anyone in months, and has only thrown 2 bags of dicks at the police recently, neither caught on tape. “We’re really excited about what he brings to the team from a football standpoint.” – Wilson.

  107. D says:

    D says:
    October 23, 2020 at 12:13 pm

    steveccnv says:
    October 23, 2020 at 11:41 am

    Jordan Phillips, Fuckface, and Howard. Any others?
    Jordan Cameron, Jordan Lucas

  108. stangerx says:

    Wasn’t quite Lincoln/Douglas, but they had an actual traditional debate last night. Was glad to see it. Was what America deserved. Two guys putting their best case out there in civil fashion, least relative to how these things work.

  109. Randy says:

    7 out of 10…..

  110. steveccnv says:

    Giuliani just dropped off contents of the Hunter hard drive to the Delaware state police, pictures of under age girls, child pornography.

    I see the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

    • stangerx says:

      Computer repair specialist claimed he gave the laptop to the FBI months ago. Why do you think they didn’t take action? Child pornography is a federal crime. But either way, if Hunter Biden is in trouble he is. The black sheep for sure.

      • steveccnv says:

        FBI is in cahoots with Biden.

      • steveccnv says:

        This isn’t just Hunter, joe is guilty as hell, but you already know that and said as much.

      • stangerx says:

        Bet Joe is happy that so many votes have already been cast. Of course he is guilty, but it’s late enough that he can still be Pres no matter what comes out. MSM is squashing the story, which is why your info didn’t show up on google. Only a few will know while people keep going to vote. Biden played this one well.

  111. ocalarob says:

    i’m wondering if i were caught up in Bidens situation, would it be better to come off like,

    “at the time i thought the prosecutor was corrupt i also want to help my son financially because he’s my son, did my son have any affect on my bad decision making, it may have but i’m not sure”

    I think that may take air out of the balloon.

    instead he claims it is fake and the russians did it, when everyone knows that’s a lie.

    which is better?

    as for me; hey Joe Biden, don’t piss on me and tell me it’s raining!

    • steveccnv says:

      Joe was getting money from this bribery scheme, he should be in jail next to Hunter, his brother, and his sister.

      I don’t know why I even bother, people are going to look the other way and do what they do, just because orange man twitted something out they didn’t like.

  112. ocalarob says:

    can you see what we’re dealing with here, Joe Biden has this dude convinced it’s raining when he’s actually pissing on his head. you see how the lower IQ people of the world will believe his lies?
    ocalarob says:
    October 22, 2020 at 1:03 pm
    Joe Biden is a crook and a liar who leveraged your tax dollars and US policy for personal profit. and your worried about Trumps twitter account?

    Rockphin says:
    October 22, 2020 at 4:33 pm
    these are LIES spread by RUSSIA

    • stangerx says:

      13 minutes is a lot to ask of folks. Why not just put out “Ratcliffe says not Russian disinformation”? I never thought it was…. but then your source is a huge Trump guy. The new Bill Barr.

  113. stangerx says:

    Jordan Howard is reportedly being offered up for a trade. Not a real shocker there. And bet you if it happens we eat most of his salary.

  114. wyoming85 says:

  115. wyoming85 says:

  116. Ken says:

    Insular thinking

  117. mf13ss says:

    Mike E. says:
    October 22, 2020 at 6:59 pm
    M – I didn’t always hate the Ravens, I think it started when we played them late in the season a couple of years when we were in playoff contention and they absolutely wrecked us. I have hated them since. Can’t help it. 🙂
    I completely understand where you’re coming from… but you’re thinking back to Mr. Pennington in our Wildcard loss to the Ravens. Ed Reed just destroyed us in that game, and Mr. Pennington’s arm wasn’t quick/strong enough. Yeah, I was NOT a fan of the Ravens that day!

    You’ll likely remember why the Ravens are my second favorite team…

    • stangerx says:

      Ravens have schooled us, even if in real close games, during the season. Been a couple years… but we played them 3 at home over a stretch that they all won but then we took them once after that. Just my memory….. could be off on the exact timing. Was at most of them though.

  118. mf13ss says:

    Randy says:
    October 22, 2020 at 6:59 pm
    I can tell you what they are saying about the Ngakoue trade and why it happened up here. The Vikes have pretty much decided their season is over, so they are making moves to get draft choices. Ngakoue is from the Baltimore area and so the trade just kinda worked for all parties. He may have brought more elsewhere, but they’d already kinda screwed with Ngakoue by trading FOR him and telling him they were a guy away from competing for a SB win….so they kinda did him a solid trading him to a contender, so people say, in his home area. Look for the Vikes to trade a few more high priced players.
    Thank you for this, Randy: didn’t realize what the Vikes were thinking. I’d be very interested in 3 players: Ant Barr (I/R), Eric Kendricks, and Anthony Harris (<- not going to happen).

    IF the price is right for Dalvin Cook, I'd be intrigued. However, he's already had serious injuries… I'm not keen on trading for damaged goods, despite how well Cook has played since.

  119. Randy says:

    Actually, one of the guys they keep saying is likely to be gone is Anthony Harris. The situation with their LBers…..Kendricks and Barr….is curious. They’d be costly, but they are pretty damn good. But, Barr is out for the season with a torn pectoral muscle and Kendricks probably isn’t going anywhere. MN, so the media here is saying, may be going rebuild lite because they do already have some really good players….especially on defense. Cook’s talent is elite, but he’s just a big risk and will demand a lot. I’m not sure I’d make any big trade for a RB. The return just usually isn’t there.
    My biggest get from MN would be Hunter. It fits a huge need for us. He’s young, and he might be one of the very best complete DE in the league. His injury is pretty worrisome….but if he’s healthy….I’d give a high draft pick for him. I don’t see it happening though…unless they do go scorched Earth…then you never know!

    • mf13ss says:

      Yessir, IF the Vikes go scorched Earth, Danielle Hunter is the guy we want… even more so than to have made a trade for Yannick. Hunter is tried, true, and absolutely amazing.

      We can always hope, right?!! We’ll see what happens…

  120. Mike E. says:

    M – The Ravens playoff game was a different story, I didn’t like them back then but didn’t hate them. In 2014 we were 7-5 and the Ravens beat us 28-13. In 2016 we were 7-4 and the Ravens spanked us 38-16. In 2017 we were 4-2 and the Ravens spanked us 40-0. They didn’t just beat us that year they humiliated us. I friggin hate ’em M, that’s all there is to it!

  121. Tim Knight says:

    So is Minnesota cleaning house?

  122. Randy says:

    The media is kinda torn up here on whether they’re going full rebuild or partial. They seem to feel that the Ngakoue trade suggested they might be….and they all believe Speilman loves to make trades! Lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      I kind of get trading Ngakoue because their season is shit and they’re not going to pay him the contract he wants. But why dismantle the entire team? They have some really good talent to get back at it next year.

  123. sb7mvp says:

    I hate the Ravens for many reasons, but we always play them stupidly and make them look a lot better than they are, so its frustrating watching a team you hate look like an unstoppable juggernaut.
    As far as that Pennington playoff game, a large reason we lost that game was because we lost our all pro center the week before and we went in there continuing to run the same 3 plays in the widcat.

  124. olddolphan says:

    AT 10:17 AM today, Wyoming said, “I know she’s (Mrs. OD) working very hard to get back home to your grumpy old ass!” Damn it, Wyoming, I’ve told her NOT to give away any family secrets!!”
    That said, if you’d like an up close look at my ugly ass, just come down to the next Fest and we’ll see if we can arrange something!!!
    Actually, chugging a few Colorado Kool-Aids and talking football are a lot better than gazing at my ass. But that’s enough of that stuff!!
    TONIGHT’s 3rd game of the World Series could be the BEST GAME of this series. Both Walker Buehler and Charlie Morton have been sensational in the post season. DON’T be surprised if it’s 1-0 after about 6 innings. Then, it will be a battle of the bull pens to see who wins. My wild-ass guess is the final will be about 3-2, Rays.

    I’ve only made it to the 4th or 5th innings in games 1 and 2. But tomorrow’s an OFF DAY for your’s truly, so I expect to stay up later. And I haven’t been this excited about a World Series since the Marlins won the 6th and deciding game in Yankee Stadium when Josh Beckett, pitching on TWO DAYS REST, held the Bronx Bombers to 2 hits in a stunning 9 inning performance won by the Fighting Fish!! Watching George Steinbrenner walk out of Yankee Stadium with his tail dragging was one of my all-time favorite moments in watching the Fall Classic!!

    BTW, the First World Series I ever watched was in 1954. Willie Mays UNBELIEVABLE catch of a 450 foot blast by Cleveland’s Vic Wertz remains my #1 most amazing play in WS history because, after he caught the ball in center field of the Polo Grounds, Mays pivotted and threw a strike all the way back to the infield ON THE FLY!!

    Y’all enjoy tonight’s game! It ought to be a dilly!!

  125. ocalarob says:

    antonio brown to the bucs

  126. wyoming85 says:

  127. wyoming85 says:

    That’s disappointing! Stanger said you had a cute ass? 😉

  128. herdfan says:

    Hey OD, are you going to be watching the Herd-FAU game tomorrow?

  129. Randy says:

    I’m just repeating what the media is saying. I don’t think they will go too crazy, but I do think they may let ho a few veterans who might bring something in trade. Their OL is terrible, so I’m not sure just how competitive they can be. Folks up here have also kinda lost hope in Cousins and the idea is if they have to reload at QB, why not rebuild a little. Speculation is also that Zimmer and/or Spielman may be fired after the season so a rebuild is more likely. Lots of speculation going on up here right now.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Wow! The Vikings have probably had one of the best rosters over the last decade but the results just aren’t good enough. They get close, have a setback, get close again, have another setback. Maybe the owner wants to start over. That’s a tough task as we know. LOL

  130. wyoming85 says:

    • Mike E. says:

      Strange move, I really didn’t think WR or the offense was a weakness but I guess there’s not much of a risk. Godwin has had trouble staying on the field so I suppose it gives them insurance.

  131. ocalarob says:

    and the hits just keep on coming!

  132. ocalarob says:

    i looked for Tony Bobulinski cnn, the only one posting this video is fox news, what a cover up!
    if biden wins he may have to serve his term behind bars

  133. ocalarob says:

    Tony Bobulinski……sounds polish, will biden move from russians to the polish now?
    polish disinformation!

  134. Mike E. says:

    I don’t know who Tony Bobulinski is but I’d imagine he’s at least as credible as the “anonymous” person who came forward to tell the world that Trump said “Americans who died in war are losers and suckers”. Sucks when the shoe is on the other foot . The media ran with that one and so did the Democrats including Biden who brought it up in the debate. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

  135. ocalarob says:

    Biden has an office shared by the head of a chinese bank, that guy is part of the chinese gov intel, that guy is known for flipping gov officials for cash for china. or so i read.
    Tony Bobulinski has this evidence.

    this shit could result in treason.

  136. ocalarob says:

    Hunter, and Joe’s brother Jim, were turning the office of the vice president of the United States into a pot of gold for themselves.
    had an agreement with China for 1.5 billion

  137. ocalarob says:

    It’s amazing how Biden can say something then do a 180 and claim he never said it.
    for instance the “xenophobic fear-mongering” or the Fracking issue.
    he clearly said he would end Fracking on tape, the other night he said he never said that, he told trump to show him the tape LOL.
    he said he was referring to something else over the “xenophobic fear-mongering” statement.
    he bashed trump for closing the country back then now he says he should have done it sooner and disputes what he said.

    if joe biden wins we are all in trouble.

  138. ocalarob says:

    the cream is rising to the top, big tech and fake news can’t stop it!

    • steveccnv says:

      They’re making it worse. Now that the cat is out of the bag people will Google it and won’t find MSM articles with their spin on it, they’ll get conservative articles.

  139. Mike E. says:

    I’ve seen some articles suggesting we trade for an interior DL because Godchaux may be out for the season. I wonder if they have any plans to give Durval Quieroz-Neto a shot first. He’s stuck with the team for a couple of years, maybe he should get a chance before we trade.

  140. steveccnv says:

    Biden lost Pa, Ohio, NM, Ok and Texas with his comments about getting rid of fossil fuels.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Does any of this matter? If Biden wins anything, you guys won’t believe it anyway. It’ll have been evil mail in ballots, illegal immigrants, or dead people voting.

      Oh and have you seen the one about how Biden molested 3 children at once while pissing on the ‘Merican flag, pissing on the grave of Betsy Ross, and raping a single mom. Trump’s team put it out there and it was on FOX, so you know it’s true. lol.

      I mean you and Rob have posted at least 7 ‘coup de grâces in the last couple of days. So shouldn’t this already be over? Honestly it stinks of desperation. At this point I don’t care who wins anymore, I don’t even care if it’s Trump, I just want this to be over.

  141. CavalierKong says:

    This World Series has been the lamest in recent memory. Can we get one good game before it’s over?

  142. steveccnv says:

    Kim Klacik running for Congress in the Baltimore district. She wants to clean it up.

    • stangerx says:

      Is she like the anti-AOC or something? 400-some congressional races out there.

      • Rockphin says:

        as seen on fox this morning.

        How a congresswomen will clean up the district when congresspeople have no control or power over a district will be the interesting thing. The dim-witted U50’s who watch fox or OAN as their only “real news” outlets will cheer it but are too dumb to understand how things work and miss that fact. The Mayor, Councilmen and / or Aldermen are in control of the district. The Congresswoman would not have the ability to “clean up” the district. She can only vote on national matters as a representative of that district.

      • stangerx says:

        So she’s the darling of the day on the conservative side cause is saying inner city is bad and if only they elected conservative she? Like said 400-some congressional races….. seems this more political messaging. And heck that is done.

  143. CavalierKong says:

    And Antonio Brown is signing with a team. No surprise to me. It’s disgusting. But hey, he is a top talent, so he should get chance after chance no matter what he does. If he’s not in jail, he can play in this league. If he goes to jail, well “hey” says the NFL “call me once you get out”. SMH

  144. CavalierKong says:

    LOL, I guess I woke up salty.

    I guess I’m really bothered that we have a guy accused of rape, we saw the shit he did in front of his kids. He assaulted a delivery driver, and on and on, and we’re like 6 months removed from all that, and effing teams are lining up to sign him. What the f^ck kind of society have we created where this isn’t just ok, it’s normal and expected!

    • Rockphin says:

      It’s all good man. It’s fine. We live in a country where a guy can brag about sexual assault and still be elected and defended strenuously by his base.

      The ends justify the means. So long as they get W’s on Sunday they will except A.B. as long as the rich get tax cuts it will “trickle down to them” and as long as they can pack the court with conservative judges, having a dangerous megalomaniac race-bating misogynistic xenophobe running the country is fine.

      This is the ‘Merica we live in now:

      • CavalierKong says:

        Our societal issues predate Trump. He is the effect, not the cause. He’s basically what we deserve at this point IMO.

        We’ve allowed our politicians to become so corrupt, that because Trump kinda moves in a direction different to the establishment and because he sounds different than the establishment, it doesn’t matter how corrupt he is, nor what he says or does, he has oodles of people lining up behind him, not just the racist bigots.

  145. stangerx says:

    “If Biden wins anything, you guys won’t believe it anyway. It’ll have been evil mail in ballots, illegal immigrants, or dead people voting. ”

    Cav — think you underestimate people like steve and ORob. They are smart just passionate and maybe playing what comes out like a game…… but there is a point where even they don’t buy in. After the election Trump claimed he had the biggest inauguration crowd in history and then that he won the popular vote cause 5 million illegal immigrants voted Hillary. Some Trump folks gave some lip service to those, but little effort cause both just made no sense. If Biden wins big will be similar.

    • CavalierKong says:

      I’ll pass take a hard pass on the zero sum game you guys are playing. If you want to paint them in a corner/ reverse that psychology with the buy in line, and get a dig in about the inauguration at the same time, then do it. You don’t need to address it to me, lol.

      • stangerx says:

        LOL — I actually get that complicated logic stream, even if left mystified why you would tag it to my sincere comment. 🙂

      • CavalierKong says:

        LOL, and here I was thinking you would go with “why whatever do you mean?” 🙂

  146. CavalierKong says:

    And piss off, Gase, you effing wanker.
    And f%ck the Jest, beat the Jills somehow.
    And f^ck the Pets for good measure.

  147. ocalarob says:

    oh shit, the troglodytes are out early!

  148. CavalierKong says:

    LOL, well that was cathartic. I’m going to buy some couches.

  149. ocalarob says:

    what worries me about the QB change is the lack of a running game, while gaskin is doing his best to carry the running game we still haven’t had a 100 yard rusher.
    D’s had to worry about Fitz taking off which helped our offense tremendously.
    i don’t think Tua has the same running ability as Fitz.
    if i’m the opposing D coor, i focus more on pressuring tua and coverage than i am about gaskin.

    hit Tua, that would be my focus

    • CavalierKong says:

      IMO Fitz’s best attribute is his pocket presence. I think he really helps our oline. And like you said, we can’t run the ball, so I agree with you, if I was the DC, I’d blitz Tua early and often and see what the kid has.

      It’s really surprising to me considering the size and makeup of our line that we don’t run block better. And Gaskin is a good 3rd down type back, but we still need that bigger back that Howard was supposed to be which IMO is why we went after Bell.

  150. ocalarob says:

    Mike E. says:
    October 24, 2020 at 11:02 am
    I’ve seen some articles suggesting we trade for an interior DL because Godchaux may be out for the season. I wonder if they have any plans to give Durval Quieroz-Neto a shot first. He’s stuck with the team for a couple of years, maybe he should get a chance before we trade.

    Godchaux may have played his last snap with Miami, isn’t he a free agent next year? will they break the bank to keep him?

  151. manitobafinfan says:

    I think Tua will be a runner as well, just a different type of running … Fitz would see shit breakdown say fuck it I’m running forward, where as Tua will see and feel pressure coming, and run away in rollouts to buy time and then either turn upfield / toward sidelines or throw it away if nothing comes open enough … I also think Tua needs less of a window to fit it into than Fitz … at least that is my hope

    • stangerx says:

      I think Tua is going to rollout/scramble a bunch, but if we are doing RPO seems he’s gotta run a good bunch or it makes no difference. I loved Fitz’s comments on how Tua can make throws i never could. So maybe when Fitz would run…. Tua tries to find time for the throw. Gonna be real interested to see what he does do.

    • Ken says:

      Mobility has always been a big part of Tua’s game I don’t expect that to change. Also Tua has a much stronger arm than Fitz so he should be able to get it into smaller windows

      • Rhino says:

        Tua also has something that many/most on this site have consistently said Can NOT be taught: accuracy.

        I think they made the move because 3rd down efficiency was killing us. That and the 30:20 td:int ratio of Fitz is not gonna win too many more games than .500 ball we were playing.

  152. Mike E. says:

    If Biden wins I promise I won’t whine like a pussy for 4 years during his presidency, that’s more than any of the Democrats here have done, so chew on that! Actually, my wife and I decided that pussies are very strong, they can endure a lot of punishment like childbirth for instance. A guy gets grazed on his ball sac and he’s doubled over in pain. It’s balls that are weak while pussies are strong. Therefore, I now change what I said to whine like balls!

    • stangerx says:

      Other side complaining about the president is an American tradition. Another tradition is the Pres tries to lead all Americans. Don’t know for a fact Biden will do that, but am really hoping he would if elected.

      • Mike E. says:

        Lead us where? That’s the question . . . Most likely into an economic depression when he closes everything down and makes mask wearing even outside a mandate (Except Chris Cuomo)

      • stangerx says:

        Exactly where is the question, but isn’t it that in any Pres election? I’m not a huge fan of Biden, but only two choices.

  153. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – Please – This has been unprecedented, I have never seen such vitriol between not only the opposing party but the media as well. It’s been one big free for all trying to disparage the POTUS whether it was legitimate or not. I truly hope this doesn’t continue whether he wins or loses, I’m sick of it. You can disagree with me, but TDS is very real, and I know a shit ton of people that have it.

    • stangerx says:

      By “Other side complaining about the president is an American tradition” was encouraging you to keep it up no matter who the next president is. With reaction and attention comes accountability.

      And yes the last 4 years have been unprecedented in that, but was also at least implying that part of that was because Trump never ventured from his base and united. Which he is paying the price for now.

      And I probably have TDS. Before our current POTUS voted GOP for Pres every time since Reagan.

      • Mike E. says:

        I can agree with you 100% he did a poor job of trying to unite the country and invite others to the party, he didn’t even try. I don’t remember it being so contentious on this blog or on FB or twitter when Obama was POTUS. I suppose you could say he didn’t alienate people but to be fair people started the whining and crying as he soon he as he won the election and I think there was a certain group of people that would never warm to him no matter what he did.

  154. Mike E. says:

    Tua’s going to run a lot? Great!! I’ll be wincing all fucking game worrying his first big hit is his last. Sounds like fun . . .

    • TOP SECRET says:

      take that you fucking libtards …… lol.

      • stangerx says:

        LOL Top — where do you live? In Florida two of three commercials are campaign ones these days. Not sure how another one is going to hurt the “fucking libtards” if they hit on it.

  155. CavalierKong says:


    It certainly has been a 4 year cryfest for the Dems, no doubt. But this isn’t one-sided. Acting like the other side is this staunch well of take it like a man and rub some dirt on it, lmao.

    Trump is the biggest victim in the history of this country or haven’t you been paying attention? It’s his bread and butter move. He whines about everything that doesn’t go his way. And you can’t say it’s in response to blah, blah, blah. He’s been doing it since the 80’s. That’s when he coined his infamous phrase ‘fake news’. He uses the same playbook as president that he has as a businessman for decades.

    You say you’ve never seen such vitriol? Trump brings every perceived slight to the forefront and he has the biggest stage in the world. No slight is too small or petty for this president to respond to. Nothing is beneath him, and no stone thrown is too low. THAT is just as big a reason why it seems like it’s so bad. He makes it worse.

    If he had any decorum, most of the shit that gets thrown at him wouldn’t get blown up to be nearly as big. Do you remember “Thanks, Obama!”? The vitriol thrown at him was terrible too, but he was above it as much as possible, so it took away some of its power and subsided to background noise. That is what most presidents do. Trump forever paints himself a victim and constantly puts it in everyone’s faces, so because of the way he handles his shit, it gets exacerbated.

    And that trickles down to the people. People feel stronger one way or another than in normal years with a normal adult in the WH because it’s constantly in our faces. To just call it MSM and the dems whining for 4 years is completely absolving Trump for his roll in where we are at.

    • wyoming85 says:

      The word your looking for is “petty”

      • CavalierKong says:

        Hey now, I found that word in my 3rd paragraph, lol.

        In all seriousness, yes, that word sums it up. This whole fucking thing is petty. All of it. lol

    • Mike E. says:

      I think they started trying to get him out of office as soon as he won the election. I do agree he plays the victim but I do think he’s faced more adversity in his won country than any other president.I don’t want to get deep into this but it’s amazing how the media ran with the story from the unnamed anonymous source with no corroboration yet won’t say a word about the Biden/Russia controversy. The media definitely doesn’t play fair.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Similar to the birther conspiracy. That hung around for how long after Obama was elected, hell is it still a thing? And I didn’t even vote for Obama, but I think this constant attack shit started with him if not before.

  156. pheloniusphish says:

    Whew…Just got caught up on three days of posts! Anybody change their mind about who they are voting for?

    • stangerx says:

      That’s the thing…… no one will. But in the time of this historic election — nothing wrong with discussing politics. But ain’t getting it to discussion rather than a fight a biotch? 🙂

    • CavalierKong says:

      Lol, in all honesty I still haven’t made up my mind.

      • stangerx says:

        But your vote doesn’t count. Used to brag to my friends that mine did when hit FL….. now wish it didn’t. Phone rings off the hook.

  157. wyoming85 says:

    Please don’t tell Krishna I used it without him!

  158. TOP SECRET says:

    the only people that hate TRUMP are the swamp creatures (both R and D) that use politics as a money making scheme to enrich themselves. PERIOD.

  159. wyoming85 says:

    Game day Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  160. wyoming85 says:

    I didn’t vote for President Trumps personality!
    I voted for his policy!!!!!!!!!!

  161. CavalierKong says:

    I don’t know how I keep letting myself get embroiled in these conversations. It’s got a hypnotic fascination quality and before I know it, I’ve made half a dozen posts, lol.

    Howie’s List

    🦍 BYE 🐬

  162. wyoming85 says:

    And if President Trump took a “left” turn on his Policy, it would be real easy to change aim!!

  163. TOP SECRET says:

    do you want a “mr. rogers” nice guy as president or an asshole that gets shit done?

  164. Mike E. says:

    Howie’s List

    🦍 BYE 🐬
    🎙E Dreams of Tua

  165. Randy says:

    I haven’t made up my mind yet. I’ve narrowed it down to writing in either ORob or Kong. They both still have time to sway me. I’d love to hear more from both!

  166. wyoming85 says:

    It’s a mood thing for me!

    Howie’s List

    🦍 BYE 🐬
    🐎 Bye 🐬

  167. wyoming85 says:

    I don’t know who everyone worked for all the time?

    Most of the guys i came up under in construction make President Trump look like a choir boy!

    • stangerx says:

      Part of the reason why Trump’s polls split so strongly btwn men and women. The ladies want things put in a more polite way.

  168. TOP SECRET says:

    funny how PEACE is breaking out in the middle east……..and the msm doesn’t care enough to report it……….i guess the guy could cure cancer and get no credit for it……lol.

  169. Mike E. says:

    Kong – The birther thing was a biotch topic for a select few. In general, every single day I find everyone on my FB from the LEFT aisle that posts is just posting one after another of Trump memes galore. There’s no comparison. Yes, Obama was all nice and cuddly and spoke extremely well and didn’t alienate anyone with his commentary. As a President policy wise, not impressed in the least and hated some of the things he did. I can tell you this, if Joe’s nose grows and we end with socialized medicine I may just end up being that person with BDS, which will probably turn into HDS after a couple of months when Harris puts a pillow over Joe’s head while he’s sleeping.

  170. Rockphin says:

    Mike to most Americans (You know the majority?) it is not TDS it is sickening denial and unforgivable willful ignorance from the other side. You and the rest of the trump supporters here are in the MINORITY. that is a straight up fact, cannot be disputed. you have control only because of the way our republic is set up to be controlled by a minority

    It was deemed as fair by the engineers of the constitution to protect the less populated states from being dominated by more populous states. On that level it is fair. It doesn’t change the fact that the majority of Americans can’t stand the douchebag and lose respect for his cereal forgivers. I get that it is tough to have your hypocrisy shoved in your face day in and day out but that is what you get when you surrender the moral high ground by constantly forgiving his sleaziness no matter what he does. He has said and done 100 things that you guys would have disqualified ANYONE else for doing.

    If a tape of GWB came out bragging about grabbing pussies you, me and everyone else would have picked McCane in that primary.
    If it came out that Obama owned a golf resort in Ireland and manipulated the system to have the US air force pay him money to stay at his property while they go out of their way to “fuel up” you, Steve and Rob would be calling for his head.
    if obama’s personal lawyer went to jail for campaign finance rule violations and Obama was the “Unindicted co-conspirator #1” you would lose your mind. It would be unforgivable.

    It is not TDS it is fucking exhaustion from seeing the daily degradation of the office of the presidency by this buffoon and the constant loud defense of the indefensible by you and yours.

    • Rockphin says:

      John Kasich was 100x better choice than either Trump or Hillary. We would have exactly the same amount of conservative judges on the courts (trump had nothing to do with that and Con in the office would have “achieved” as much, since it is Moscow Mitch who is responsible for that)

  171. wyoming85 says:

    Howie’s List

    🦍 BYE 🐬
    🐎 Bye 🐬
    🎙E Dreams of Tua

    You’d think an admin could fix that kind of shit????????????????????

  172. ocalarob says:

    Man Trump is smart, he took over the moderator’s job asking Joe a question, LMAO!
    and Joe responded, Trump jumped on his answer like a hound dog on a soup bone!

    This was the end for Joe Biden!

    • stangerx says:

      If it’s the end of Joe Biden than guess we can just talk football from now on. Nothing to see as far as the election.

      • stangerx says:

        Completely aware what is about and how it impacted votes, but you said “This was the end for Joe Biden!” So Trump wins and we don’t have to watch the election results right?

    • ocalarob says:

      will you remember that Texas…Oklahoma…ohio…pennsylvania….LOL,

      • stangerx says:

        Wrong place — Completely aware what is about and how it impacted votes, but you said “This was the end for Joe Biden!” So Trump wins and we don’t have to watch the election results right?

  173. wyoming85 says:

    And I’m done!

  174. TOP SECRET says:

    sleepy joe has been a “joke” for a long time…

  175. CavalierKong says:

    You’re post combines issues, policy, and decorum into one statement. When it comes to policy, I align slightly more with Trump over the other two. Although I am staunchly against some of Trump’s stances (mostly immigration and clean energy), I really didn’t agree with much Obama did, and Biden is too in China’s pocket for my tastes.

    When talking about the constant attacks and the atmosphere of belligerent behavior we see in everyone, what I am putting down is that it is all made worse by the president’s decorum. It’s not just the dems being whiny douchebags.

    All presidents will have their policies attacked. All presidents will face scrutiny, 2nd guessing, and all president will have supporters and detractors.

    This presidency has been defined by an atmosphere of constant attacks because he has no decorum, quite the opposite, he thrives in a chaotic attacking climate because it’s what he does, and he is incapable of adapting or changing his behavior. So instead of minimizing attacks and argument, he exacerbates it. It becomes the sole topic. He makes it worse. He sinks down to that level every time. And so do his followers, and so do his detractors, and so does the rest of the country.

    When your leader leads by attack and victimization, is it really that big a surprise that the rest of the country follows?

  176. wyoming85 says:

  177. Randy says:

    Is the idea and reality that we need to decrease our reliance on fossil fuels becoming a lie, again? Are there still people out there who don’t understand a change has to be made? I feel for people who may lose money if we transition away from fossil fuels and start to give people jobs to create and provide alternative sources of energy, but it is the right choice for us as humans, the planet and our descendants. The fact that it may harm a very small portion of the Earth’s population sucks…but it doesn’t change the necessity of it. And I don’t even blame those folks affected being angry about it, but it doesn’t change the reality that we need to change as a species. This is about the future of our planet.
    And Biden’s actual plan…you know, something Trump doesn’t have….is to assist those displaced by cracking down on fossil fuel production by giving them jobs in developing and producing the alternative options. Not perfect, of course, but better than nothing.

    • wyoming85 says:

      That’s me Randy that SMALL population is me!

      I guess if the cops killed a couple of black guys just because?

      Well its a small population!!!!!!!!!!!


    • ocalarob says:

      Nice post, however you’re forgetting about other countries as well, will China do it? will India do it? it doesn’t make much sense if we are the only ones doing it, clean energy is not sustainable at this point, if it was we would be using it.

      • Rockphin says:

        Yes THEY WILL

        We should be leading the world in this like we have in every other great advancement since the industrial era. YES FOR OUR SAKE!!!!!

        Yes we should take the lead and be leaders in the world instead of going back in time. Why don’t we bring back horse and buggy while we bring back coal!?

  178. CavalierKong says:

    Stang, lol about my vote not counting. I’ve been saying that for years since I’m in the bluest state in the union. Half the time I only vote on state and local issues because even if I vote for Bush (which I did) what would be the point in CA?

    • stangerx says:

      Trump or Biden hold a rally in Cal recently? They come to FL like it is their nearest 7-11. When was back in a very blue area of Washington….. the GOP didn’t even bother to throw up a candidate for State Senate. That’s a pretty big position.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Trump came to Sacramento some time ago, but I think that was a fire thing, not a rally. I haven’t heard anything about Biden coming here, but I guess he doesn’t need to.

  179. CavalierKong says:

    Randy, can an ape be president? I’m not sure. I am naturally born here. Heck I was born on an AFB, and come from a military family, so maybe that counts for something, lol.

  180. wyoming85 says:

    I tell you what!

    I’m not against clan energy!

    If you can make it viable and cheaper, the companies will start building the facilities you need to produce it!

    And I will build those also!

    But putting up diesel generators to charge electric cars won’t work!

    • wyoming85 says:

      Clean even!

      • Rockphin says:


        If the us had continued down the path it was on in the 70’s when there was a concerted effort to develop alternate technologies for energy then we would not be in this position. What happened you ask? The grand old party happened. A few special interest groups used their financial influence to buy the GOP and make oil a party policy. To this day it still is.

        Battery technologies were purposely buried by oil companies to make sure that our dependence on oil is continued. I would love for you to be making millions right now building alternate clean energy generation plants rather than continuing to follow “Party Policies” bought decades ago by special interest groups.

        If WE the People chose we could.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Is clan energy akin to tribalism? (not throwing stones, I have my fair share of goofs too, lol)

  181. Randy says:

    I know. I almost apologized to you in the post. Believe me. I get it. I come from a state where we rely on farming. Farming….especially small, family farms….has been slapped around plenty by the Government. It sucks. But, it doesn’t change the reality that we need to find a better way for the future of our planet. Would you disagree with that statement? I get that you are impacted by the choice, but do you feel we should just keep doing things the way we’ve been doing them or find a better way?

    • wyoming85 says:

      See my post above!

      I’m a old whore! I will build anything you want!

    • stangerx says:

      It’s a hard subject, but times are changing. In the last election it was about coal. Haven’t even heard that mentioned this time around . Oil is going to be here for a good long time though….. well past when Wyoming retires.

  182. Randy says:

    So, the answer is that if it’s not cheap and other Countries aren’t gonna do it, we shouldn’t either? The ongoing damage we are doing to our planet is a secondary…maybe tertiary concern? Ok. Thank you for the opinion.

    • ocalarob says:

      I agree however what you’re proposing is not realistic or so i’ve heard.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Other countries are doing it

      Some big names are not

      Some notable countries make very little environmental concessions (China and India)

      But that’s the benefit of an international treaty like the Paris Accord

      It’s not a battle for the US to fight alone
      The international community must collectively pressure the countries that won’t play ball

  183. Randy says:

    I grew up building hog confinements and working on roads for a lot less than people now get paid for making French fries. I feel I’ve whored myself out plenty. Lol

  184. wyoming85 says:

    My problem is with what you call a Biden “plan”?

    Is it to get companies to start building facilities for “clean” energy, then transition from Oil and gas?

    Or is he just going to start shutting down Oil and gas the hope that somebody figures out Clean energy?
    You like rolling black outs?????

    Wind farms don’t cut the mustered!
    Solar Don’t cut the mustered
    Electricity is oil and gas generated
    You don’t like Plastic?
    Battery acid comes from Oil!!!!!!!!

    Figure out the technology and the change will come!

    • ocalarob says:

      doesnt calif have them? i think they call them “brown outs”

      • CavalierKong says:

        It’s rare, but we’ve had them for decades, not caused by clean energy. If we went fully clean at this moment, I do think outages would be a major concern.

        More recently we have planned power outages due to high winds and shoddy equipment in the mountain areas. That is wildfire precautionary measures, and is currently a huge debate between communities.

    • stangerx says:

      I watched the debate and didn’t see Biden wanting to shut down oil and gas right away. I did hear him wanting to support alternative energy and stop subsidies for oil and gas. Bit of a difference, but yeah wouldn’t be good for oil and gas down the road.

  185. Randy says:

    I agree, but you gotta start somewhere. I’d rather be ahead of the curve than behind it. Tough choices will need to be made whether it’s now or later. Biden is trying to make the hard choice…not the wrong one….or the easy one, in my mind. That’s what I want out of my leaders. I get that it’s a hard row to hoe.

  186. ocalarob says:

    Wind turbines are unreliable, solar panels can not generate enough power to run these big factories, so all of you out there demanding we go to clean energy…..

    will you please specify on how we get that done?

    • stangerx says:

      Biden talked about being clean by 2050. So in that time frame. Obviously that includes the sources you brought up (the new solar array stuff is incredible), which are getting more efficient each year. Ultimately the complete transition — and there will have to be one given the limits of petro stuff — will most likely be hydrogen based. There is power in water. Helped power the Space Shuttle.

      Were you trying to imply that once all the oil is gone mankind is done as far as power?

  187. Randy says:

    I get the idea that the technology may not be there. Unfortunately, actually attempting things and pushing the envelop when it may not be successful is how you learn and make those improvements in technology. It’s rarely done just in a draft room. War is one of the great catalysts for developments in technology because we are forced into that crucible of grow/adapt or be destroyed. If we never push and try, it may never come.

    • wyoming85 says:

      Hey I’m good with it!
      I have a generator that runs off of natural gas for my house! 😉

      I’m just saying I will build whatever the companies want built!

      Clean Oil, Plastic, acid, jet fuel, are you picking up what I’m putting down?

      You don’t have to put me out of business!

      Just change what the company is selling!

      But you have to do that first! Or the country will crater!!!!!!!!!!!!

  188. Ken says:

    The country that figures out how to end its dependency on fossil fuels will dominate the next 100 years

    • The Flying Pig says:

      F course

      Better to be ahead of the curve than chasing it

    • Rockphin says:

      Only if it can control the technology, but then, if it is for the benefit of everyone (cleaner air and water, less global impact with waste products) then should we as people care which country figures it out first? (saying because what every anyone figures out will be stolen by everyone else able to in time)

      That being said, the economic advantages to being the said country would be greatly welcome in the meantime. LOL


      GOD DAMN THE USA MISSES THE FAX MACHINE MANUFACTURING SEGMENT of the economy! wish that would come back!

  189. Mike E. says:

    Rock – I’ve mentioned so many times here that John Kasich was the guy I wanted to win the Republican primary but he didn’t. I would have been more than happy with him as POTUS

    • Rockphin says:

      It is something we agree on. I am just tired of the shame I feel every day because of that buffoon. I am ashamed of him being president.

      I was brought up like I would think the majority on here were to try and be a good person.
      Don’t lie. Don’t cheat. Don’t be unfaithful. Do be a bully or abide bullies. Be respectful of others. Be modest. Be polite. Work hard. Be generous. Help the less fortunate. Don’t judge others by their appearance; Don’t be a biggot. Don’t discriminate against others who are different than me.

      Everyone one of these beliefs is thrown in the trash daily by the putrid piece of human excrement a certain mislead segment of our population wants to celebrate

      It is shameful and I am ashamed of you.

  190. pheloniusphish says:

    Pretty much all energy sources have environmental issues. Electric requires something else to provide it and then batteries to store it..The something else is generally fossil fuel of some kind. The batteries require rare elements, so enormous amounts of earth have to be moved and then they are a waste nightmare when they have to be disposed of. Wind turbines can’t be recycled, require oil to run, kill birds, and look funny on cars. Solar is like electric except it doesn’t need a fossil fuel to produce. Does need solar panels and batteries. Nuclear is great, but scary and has a disposal issue.

    It’s Pollyanna to think that other countries will follow our lead.

    We should continue to work towards clean energy, but not by throwing out what we have before we have a solution.

    • Ken says:

      No disagreement from me

    • CavalierKong says:

      ^ Well put.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      If the US opts of International agreements that set environmental bars, not only will no one follow our lead but we are refusing to follow anyone else’s lead you

      It’s Pollyanna bc the path to international cooperation actually requires International cooperation….lol

      We don’t have to lead the way upon some of these issues

      We have to catch up

      The fact that China and India haven’t done much doesn’t mean that as part of an International coalition we can’t pressure them

      But we are actively moving away from this in the name of nationalism

      Not going to move towards effective environmental steps when we opt out of international agreements

  191. wyoming85 says:

    You might want to ask BBM how he feels about the no bail law that Biden and Came toe are peddling?

  192. ocalarob says:

    now you guys have me feeling bad, i guess i will walk to the golf course instead of taking my truck.

  193. The Flying Pig says:

    I can’t believe trump supporters are now mad about the media not reporting “peace breaking out” in the Middle East….lol

  194. ocalarob says:

    stangerx says:
    October 24, 2020 at 3:52 pm
    I watched the debate and didn’t see Biden wanting to shut down oil and gas right away. I did hear him wanting to support alternative energy and stop subsidies for oil and gas. Bit of a difference, but yeah wouldn’t be good for oil and gas down the road.

    by 2025

  195. Randy says:

    No logical or reasonable person is suggesting you throw out what you have before realistic options are available. That’s not even a choice. We are dependent on fossil fuels. Biden wasn’t even suggesting that….although he wasn’t being very clear on what he is suggesting. He is actually proposing we start the shift or begin augmenting that shift. I don’t quite understand why folks ignore that. Biden is talking about taking a step in that direction not destroying everyone involved in fossil fuel in the next 2 years. That is just more fear mongering.

  196. wyoming85 says:

    I do have a serious question though!

    why don’t we have a technology for a clean energy process?

    Don’t tell me Because of Trump!

    This has been indoctrinated into the TV since the 1970’s!

    Do you think there is one???????

    I keep thinking Hydrogen????

    • stangerx says:

      Hydrogen is the long-term answer. Problem is not cost efficient at this point. But we are talking decades into the future. Going be running on oil and gas for a long time.

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