Offseason questions linger – What will the Dolphins do?

March 11th, 2021. Spring is rapidly approaching, the weather is warming up, and so are the rumors. It’s too easy, the 2021 Miami Dolphins have a decent amount of cap space available, 9th in the NFL at just over #33M, but we’re also armed with a bunch of enticing draft picks, thanks to the Houston Texans. The Dolphins own picks #3, #18, #36 and #50, 4 picks in top 50 picks. We also have picks #81 (RD 3) and pick #124 (RD 4), and finally #207 (RD 6), 7 picks in all. There is also potential for us to trade back too, but I have no problem with focusing on quality rather than quantity. If there’s a player that can make a huge impact on our roster right now at #3, go get that player. Of course, we may trade this entire draft, Xavien Howard, Jerome Baker and Tua Tagovailoa to acquire the messiah, Deshaun Watson, so there’s that too. It’s just so easy to look at our team as the perfect trading partner for anyone, including the QB that in my mind doesn’t actually get traded. There’s also #1 on our roster who we prioritized with our #5 pick in last year’s draft. This is where we wanted to be, get our QB, and then have the ability to build the roster around that QB.

We definitely have holes to fill, especially with the surprise cut of LB Kyle Van Noy. We’re looking to upgrade and get younger too. I would expect a LB to be drafted by us, not necessarily with our first or even our 2nd, but it’s going to happen. We need a center unless we re-sign Ted Karras or look to FA once again to find one like we did last year. Corey Linsley is available and will cost similarly to re-signing Ted Karras. We may choose to draft a center and Creed Humphrey and Landon Dickerson are the 2 top centers in the draft. We also must upgrade our WR receiver corps and as the pictures I posted show, I would love to bring in former Lions WR Marvin Jones Jr. He’s such a solid, consistent receiver, and right now now we have none. I said it, ZERO. Oh this guy might become that, and this guy if he’s healthy could be that, but they haven’t and they might not. We need one professional receiver that suits up every game and produces and that’s why I like Jones. Jr. That wouldn’t stop us from drafting a stud WR and I believe we will, the more weapons the better.

Our linebacker corps just got thinner due to the release of Van Noy, and we only had thumper Elandon Roberts on a 1 year contract and he was injured very late in the season so he won’t be back. Vince Biegel is also a FA as is Kamu Grugier-Hill, leaving only Jerome Baker, Andrew Van Ginkel, Calvin Munson and Sam Eguaoven as our LB group. We need to find an impact player for that front 7 to pair with Jerome Baker who had his finest season as a Miami Dolphin last season.

We need an upgrade at RB, and rumors are flying that Aaron Jones and the Miami Dolphins are a match. I’m not as enthusiastic about this pairing as some people are. I think Jones was a nice piece in the GB offense, I don’t see him as the workhorse back we may need to lean on. To be fair, he’s a player not too unlike the Saints Alvin Kamara, smooth receiver who can run the ball in spots, but both of these guys aren’t pounders that wear the defense down, they’re more finesse backs. I think we have 2 guys on the roster already like that in Myles Gaskin and Salvon Ahmed. We need a true lead back and Jones is just barely a 1000 rusher and I think we should aim higher and pay less.

We could also use an upgrade at S, but it’s possible that last year’s 3rd RD pick Brandon Jones is given a larger role this year pairing with Eric Rowe, but good ole Bobby McCain looks like he could be facing down the guillotine himself. We can save about $6M if we cut him and I’ve always been a McCain advocate, but last year he had his chance and he didn’t really show an awful lot. With Nik Needham proving adequate in the slot and of course the presence of last year’s first RD pick Noah Igbinoghene, Mac faces some tough odds. What do you think we do???

GO DOLPHINS 2021!!!

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1,765 Responses to Offseason questions linger – What will the Dolphins do?

  1. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Piggy – I see your “Screaming Cowboy” and give you “big Enough.”

  2. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Tim,
    Shaq Barrett 😁

  3. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Tim,
    Corey Linsley

  4. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Linsley 2
    Barret 1
    Jones 1

  5. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    i can’t believe that this FO is sold on Tua regardless of what they say, would any of you be sold on a QB who had the last two dismal games, one of which you had to pull him and the other you were without resources to pull him, and he cost your team a playoff birth?

    I’m not buying that Miami is OK with Tua.

  6. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    That said the most important FA we need is a QB, you cant go into this season without a reliable QB, do you wait for maybe a Watson deal? you may end up with nothing, in that case you would have to draft a QB, that would set this team back IMO.

  7. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Tua needs a safety net, so if Miami knows they don’t want to give up draft capitol to get Watson they better get a FA QB, maybe a Andy Dalton or even Alex Smith, at this point getting an experienced starting caliber QB would be #1 on my to do list.

  8. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    up coming days/months will reveal how sold Miami is with Tua, if they are sold as they say they are then they can just leave the QB position status quo, with Ruddock & Sinnett backing up Tua.

    if they’re so sold on Tua with the salary cap so low and all the valuable draft assets we have why bother spending anything on the QB position.
    Stay tuned, we shall see

  9. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    if we do get Watson, i believe Tua will not be included in any trade for him and will remain a Fin, i doubt the Texans or any team would give a bag of potato chips for Tua

  10. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tua needs a safety net? Why, because he was pulled from a couple of games last year? He needs a backup QB, like any other team does. He doesn’t need training wheels, or a safety net. Either we’re going to be good with Tua or we won’t, and they won’t be pulling him out of games this season, mark my words.

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      he needs a safety net because of his performance last year, He doesn’t need a run of the mill back up, he needs a quality back up due to his ineffectiveness, didn’t you watch him play? are you really going to roll the dice and place your bet that Tua will be sufficient after watching his play, at the seasons risk? they will need a QB who can come in and be effective as Fitz was last year.
      “either we will be good with Tua or we won’t”
      that goes without saying, why would you think they won’t pull Tua if he’s playing bad? they already did it twice last year, of course they will yank him.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Wow, so from his rookie season, with no training camp, no pre season games, you’ve already determined that because he struggled in some games last season, he’ll forever need a safety net. Great deduction there. Did every QB in the NFL play well in their rookie season? No, and for the record, Tua didn’t play poorly the entire season, he had a few bad games. So what? I do think you’re grading Tua totally unfairly. More than likely if Fitz wasn’t on our team, Tua would have stayed in those games and he would have either sunk or swam. I think you’re grading on a very hard curve Rob.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        I know, Mike E. It’s just beyond discussion at this point. Have you ever seen a dog latch on to a play toy and won’t let it go? That’s what comes to mind. LMFAO!

  11. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Gas prices have gone up 20 cents since the last time i filled my tank, 2.83! we are headed for another economy collapse!

  12. Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

    Well shit .. I guess I’m having popcorn for breakfast this morning. 😎

  13. sorry , had to call out the village idiot and fearmonger for his blatant lies and stupidity

    it almost seems as if he is just trolling the blog, o well

    back to disregard

  14. maybe i should write a letter to Opec and Russia for Orob, tell them to produce more oil, just for HIM< lol

    because Orob economy will collapse, he doesnt have $.20 and NFL wanna be GM and Tua troll doesnt pay well

  15. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Irony at its best

  16. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I don’t know how many people on this board did LSD in their younger days, but you know how stiff and sore you are the next day? That is how I felt all night. It’s like my bones are tight and they ache from the tension, and I also have a hot poker in my spine. Barely slept at all. I feel like I got the shyte kicked out of me by a 300 ft nuclear lizard, lol.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Lol…did you get the COVID vaccine?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      I’m real sorry to hear that, especially since I have to take the thing at some point. You are the 2nd person who told me about side-effects. The others said no big deal at all….. but guess that is how side-effects work.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Stang, I was uncomfortable all night, but it was manageable. Now that I’ve been up and moving around a couple of hours, I’m already starting to feel better. I’ll give another update later today for anyone interested.

  17. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Oh, playing catch up. Nice article, Mike E. Glad you got holes and upgrades covered! Lol!

    Thanks again for your efforts.

  18. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    So here is why I think Watson gets traded.
    Make yourself the GM or coach of the Texans.
    Watson plays… your ass is covered.
    Trade Watson…. you brag about all the new toys.
    Watson sits out…. you might get fired.

    Long as Watson stands his ground he’ll get his trade.

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      What if the Jets have the most trade value on the table for the Texans and Miami is not close to that level, Watson doesn’t want to go to the Jets, he wants to work with Flores & Grier,
      his no trade clause gives him the edge and devalues the texans compensation.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Then both sides would see what happens. To my mind at least , if the Texans agree to trade Watson part of that will be him offering up a list of teams he’s willing to go too. Which may or may not include the Jets. How it normally goes when players have a non-trade clause. Then the Texans would put him up for bid amongst those teams.

  19. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Mike E. says:
    March 13, 2021 at 12:19 pm
    Wow, so from his rookie season, with no training camp, no pre season games, you’ve already determined that because he struggled in some games last season, he’ll forever need a safety net. Great deduction there.
    _____________________________________________________

    When did i say that? I definitely think he needs a safety net and harness next year! or let’s just go with him status quo, when we start losing games due to it i’m sure you’ll forget all about this conv and flip quickly.
    as for him needing one “forever”? if he continues to struggle he won’t be a starting QB so that’s that.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Rob, he doesn’t need one this season. Once you learn how to ride a bike you take off the training wheels. He has to feel like the team is behind him and he’s the QB. That’s how it has to be. If you get a QB that he’s always going to be looking over his shoulder it doesn’t show confidence in him. For better or worse, he’s our QB and you find a backup in case he gets injured

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        when did he learn to ride that bike? was it the Buffalo game or the Raiders game, or maybe it was the Denver game??
        Please enlighten me.

  20. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Stanger – as far as I’m concerned, the only legitimate reason Watson has to be so angry with the Texans is they told him he’d have input on which GM and HC they chose. Truth of it is that was a ridiculous mistake to do that because WTF does a 25 year old kid know about choosing a GM or a HC? Probably no more than I do which is why the Dolphins never consult me first. If they can have a sit down and discuss that very topic and explain to him their thinking as to why they picked the GM and HC and what their plan is going forward maybe they can work thinks out. He has to be willing and for what they’ve paid him, I kinda feel he owes them that at a minimum. If he’s not satisfied then I guess he can do what he wants

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      You are going to what he is entitled to do in a right or wrong way…. I was going pure power dynamic. People are people, including those who run the Texans.

      Took me and my compadres 3 years to pass a bill. And man did we work hard to put the pressure on. Our big obstacle was the state’s Senate Pro Tem (same as leader of that chamber). Word filtered back that he told one of our supporters “Man I can’t go to a cocktail party without someone pressuring me on that.” That was the sign — passed a month or so later after he stopped blocking.

      Just taking that angle on it and not saying means he goes to the Phins.

  21. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Mike E. says:
    March 13, 2021 at 12:19 pm
    Did every QB in the NFL play well in their rookie season? No, and for the record, Tua didn’t play poorly the entire season, he had a few bad games. So what?
    _____________________________________________________

    sure they’re some QBs who struggle and play better as they get acclimated.

    It’s not about that, it’s all about the fact that he can’t get the ball off late in the pocket due to his mechanics, he is blocked from throwing it due to his low release, he can’t get rid of the ball in a crowded pocket. he either has to take off and get clear or he gets sacked.

    that is something that is very hard to fix, i’m not even sure they are aware of that.

    the problem is teams will make him beat them deep and crowd the LOS

    Maybe they are aware and can fix it, i wouldn’t bet next year on it.

  22. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    The only decent game Tua had was against the Cards

  23. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    i keep hearing, he doesn’t have weapons around him, all BS excuses.
    look at how we gave Mike Wallace a huge contract, did he pan out? Hell no, why is that? how did he do so great in Pit and suck for us, do you think it may have had something to do with who was throwing him the ball?
    are we going to revisit that same shit with JuJu? because Tua will not be able to get him the ball like big ben.

  24. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I hope i’m wrong about Tua, it would be absolutely wonderful to have our franchise QB and manipulate the draft with all the great picks we have. but i just don’t feel that’s the case.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Whoever we pick up to support Tua would still be there. If Tua doesn’t work out then we’d just have to find another QB, without the advantage of that #3 pick. Seems that is a reason to trade down and forward though. Would be an insurance policy.

  25. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    you want to help Tua, sign Chris Carson and draft Penei Sewell

  26. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Tua has always been known to have a different sort of throwing motion than a classic, over the top sort of one. That is nothing new about him. He tends to throw with more of a slinging motion, coming from outside in or around in the motion. It’s not a flaw. It’s how he throws. Coaches have known about it since watching him in HS. If they had a problem with it or felt it needed to be “fixed” they either wouldn’t have drafted him or be trying to correct it. Neither seems to be the case, so I assume the coaches are happy with it.
    ***
    I think Tua’s hip injury was having an affect on him….just a guess. He was obviously well enough to play, but it didn’t look like he could generate the same sort of torque and power he did prior to the injury. I’m interested to see if he looks better this year with a little more time to heal and get stronger.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Obviously not prototypical, but he does get some juice on the ball close in at least. More worried about his height and the big guys in front of him in terms of that delivery.

      Also wonder about that hip….. but seems no longer an excuse this season.

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Shush

  27. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    M13, I agree with your assessment of Etienne. He is also not much of an ankle breaker or tackle breaker. I would say he is RB3 for me with Najee at RB1 and Javonte Williams RB2.

    Have you checked out Javonte Williams, 5’10” 220 from UNC yet? He led the NCAA in forced missed tackles and yards after first contact. When he goes down he always gets more yardage, always falling forward. IMO, he gives you the same threat in Najee as a RB, receiver and blocker.

  28. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I’m only speculating about Tua and his low delivery, i’m just trying to figure out why he struggled, he seems to get stuck. he can’t get the ball off when he’s crowded yet not in immediate danger.

    if you look at the top QBs in the league they all get the ball way above their head for most of the throws, i’ve seen Mahomes and Rogers throw side arm at times when they need to but for the most part they throw upright, name me a side arm only QB that has succeeded in the NFL?

  29. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    ingrained mechanics and muscle memory don’t go away over-night…or over a single season.

  30. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    actually Phillip Rivers has that side arm throwing motion but he’s 6’5″

  31. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    When does FA start?

  32. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    stanger,
    Like Brees, Tua has to have throwing lanes. He won’t be throwing over anybody. That’s why I said before we draft him that having good guard play in front of him is probably more important than having good tackle play. He needs guards who can control the inside and create those lanes.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Doesn’t that leave us at Tua can be great if he has an OL that dominates and WRs that get a lot of separation? Sounds like Bama…. but also sounds like a lot to ask from an NFL team.

  33. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    name me a side arm only QB that has succeeded in the NFL?
    ———————
    Kenny Stabler

  34. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Thank you ORob

  35. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    We had the least separation for WRs of any team in the NFL this past year. If we want to judge Tua with his peers, shouldn’t he at least have the same criteria? Some really ridiculous sounding arguments against Tua.

    Brady had some of the best weapons in the NFL. Hmmm, I wonder how he succeeded? Mahomes has the best TE and one of the most elusive WRs. Hmmm, wonder how he succeeded? Goff had tons of weapons when he went to the SuperBowl. Josh Allen had his best year…after he suddenly got an elite WR in Diggs. The first year without Hopkins in Houston…was an expected disaster.

    Every QB has safety blankets. Every year, successful QBs have some kind of safety blanket. Tua should always have a safety blanket if he plays 4 years or 20. Its ridiculous to think QBs don’t need safety valves every year. The things we expect from Tua that isn’t expected for any other QB is ridiculous. He needed a full healthy offseason with weapons that can stay healthy. He never got that last year. Fitz didn’t get a lot of that either during his 9-11 tenure here either. QBs need tools to work.

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      and you may be correct, but isn’t there enough doubt after watching his performance, how do you explain Fitz coming in the Raiders & Broncos game and moved the same offense without any problems, the same personnel that Tua failed.

      Do you go into next season solely relying on Tua?

      i sure hope not.

      • New Age's avatar New Age says:

        Easy, it was just two games. I also saw Fitz struggle against the Pats and Seahawks. That’s with having Williams, Parker, and every other WR available.

  36. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    “Biden should be finished; Tucker is on any minute.”
    — Fox News chyron during Biden’s Covid speech……. guess Fox knows what is more important.

  37. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    My business partner got jj last Saturday and said he’s still feeling it this Friday, but feels much better. OMFG!

    Guess that’s what happens when you put a deadly virus in yourself. Some people are more sensitive than others.

  38. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Marvelous Marvin passed away.

  39. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    bailbondmike says:
    March 13, 2021 at 3:18 pm
    M13, I agree with your assessment of Etienne. He is also not much of an ankle breaker or tackle breaker. I would say he is RB3 for me with Najee at RB1 and Javonte Williams RB2.

    Have you checked out Javonte Williams, 5’10” 220 from UNC yet? He led the NCAA in forced missed tackles and yards after first contact. When he goes down he always gets more yardage, always falling forward. IMO, he gives you the same threat in Najee as a RB, receiver and blocker.
    ——————–
    Thank you, BBM.

    Disclaimer: I’ve not seen Javonte Williams even once in live action this past season, and I just popped on his highlight reel… meaning, I’ve got way more work to do on him. I’ve give you my quick impressions…

    WOOOOO! He surprised the hell out of me. I see his patience and vision before he turns the jets or power on… and he doesn’t ‘dance around’ like a Ronnie Brown had for us. He can certainly run between the Tackles (that’s where his patience and vision really pay off), and he can certainly run outside the Tackles. He’s not only quick upon execution, he’s truly explosive.

    He can juke well, spin well, and lower his shoulder to dole out punishment well. I don’t see a whole lot of wasted motion in his efforts, and that’s saying something… hence as you said above, he’s always falling forward: rare trait.

    Didn’t get a chance to see his blocking, but saw some nice hand-catches in the receiving game… again, no wasted motion as he just seamlessly turns and burns after the catch.

    Quick Pros: see above!
    Quick Cons: don’t like the ACC or their RBs (it’s their level of competition). I may have to make an exception here.

    Again, I can’t judge via a mere highlight reel, but now I’m officially intrigued. I’ll have to get back to ya once I really break his tape down. Thanks, Brother!

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Javonte Williams reminds me of Nick Chubb.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        That’s pretty high praise, man: Nick Chubb was an SEC RB vs some of the very best DF7s in the country. Can’t wait to dig into Javonte’s tape!

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      What I like most about him is he is the type of back who can wear a defense down. You are not going to arm tackle him.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        And that’s exactly what we need at the RB position… somebody who can EXPLODE through wanna-be tacklers, and today’s NFL has a LOT of wanna-be tacklers.

        Conversely, we want LBs who are TRUE-tacklers… not wanna-be tacklers: I really like Zaven Collins, LB, Tulsa.

      • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

        Yeah, there are a few of us who do like Collins. His Pro Day is not until April 2.

  40. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    RIP

  41. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Watching and listening to Bill Walton call a game reminds me of Bitcoin rambling for some reason…………

  42. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Add speed to the front seven of the defense, a jolt of talent at RB and WR, and continue to develop the OL. Do that and we’re a contender in my mind. Yes with Tua as our QB. 🙂

  43. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Trying to figure out the co-OCs – maybe it will be based on down and distance, situational football. Run/Pass type stuff. Or does Flores name an OC before the season starts – is it a competition among coaches like with players?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Don’t they usually send in 2 plays, a pass and run, and let the QB decide based on D formation and what he sees?

  44. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    stangerx says:
    March 13, 2021 at 5:15 pm
    Why? They got the calls right.
    _______________________________
    really? i guess you didn’t watch fox, they gave Biden Ariz way before the count was even close to finished and it was very close at the time, they did that in a couple other left wing states as well, as soon as the polls opened in CALIF they gave biden the electoral votes before the first vote was counted.
    Trump came out on tv and said WTF!
    i do not watch Fox local news, they are bias
    it was a sham

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      The guy in charge of calling it for Fox is a big Dem, that’s a fact, but they all knew the outcome before hand

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      ORob — so it wasn’t that they called states wrong but rather calling them too early that bothered you, even if turned out they were right?

  45. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    at the time i was not convinced Leonard beat Hagler, and i’m still not,
    Leonard was on his bicycle the whole fight, he refused to go toe to toe with Hagler, he never hurt Hagler and was fearful of Haglers viscous punches. if that fight went on until we had a winner i’m sure the result would’ve been different, Hagler was a brute!
    the judges must’ve been leftwingers

  46. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    A good Hagler fight was when he dismantled Tommy Hearns, Hearns did in fact hurt hagler early, that was an amazing fight from start to finish!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASe3GTXgC1o

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I loved boxing, starting early 70s, and saw this fight. Was a big Hagler fan.

      Now I’ve tried watching some old fights and boxing is boring. Even the live fights, I can’t get thru more than a round. Those bigger than their head gloves, all the holding, ref break ups…MMA is so much more enjoyable

  47. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Stangerx says:
    March 13, 2021 at 5:25 pm
    When Biden talks about vaccine distribution and schedules you don’t believe him? He’s already done the 100 million shots he promised. So that at least was true.

    That’s not what I’m talking about. When he speaks you have to take it with a grain of salt and figure out what he’s really saying and why.

    When staying on script he may say some things that become true, but then off script he puts his foot in his mouth everytime.

    He said, by May 1st everyone that wants a vaccine can get one. Have they figured this out and been told this could happen or is this him going off script? We’ll see.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Hmmmm….I wonder if you apply the same standard to Trump’s rhetoric (lies) of a year ago who said it’s all under control….one person coming in and it’s fine…12 people have it and it’s going away. LMAO!

      Seriously?!!!!

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      As pp would say, idjit!

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      steve — was just responding to “Anyone that believes anything biden says is a fool.” If by that you meant can’t trust everything then I agree.

      BTW — I at least interpreted what Biden said to mean we’ll have enough vaccine for everyone by May 1st… not that all the shots would be in all the arms, only that you can get in line.

  48. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    A draft years later is graded based on how many productive guys and top end guys you drafted.

    With that said, we should always be trading up to get the 2 or 3 best guys we can, but then you put too many eggs in 1 basket and come away with DT3, or Fuck face

  49. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Something I’ve recently considered is cap savings by trading down from 3, then found this from Crabbs

    Dolphins can secure much more wiggle room if they do indeed trade down and add more picks. If the Carolina Panthers came calling about a trade for the No. 3 pick to draft a quarterback of their choosing, Miami would net some cap savings, especially if they’re able to parlay picks into the future and subsequently draft players this year who can replace a handful of expensive players.

    Carolina, for example, would have to send picks No. 8 & 39 overall in any trade with the Dolphins at a minimum, plus a future 1st-round pick. The cap charges for those assets?

    No. 8 overall: $3.838M
    No. 39 overall: $1.525M
    2022 1st-round pick: Zero hit against 2021 cap

  50. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    I’m watching a video of idiot drivers, the caption reads, that was Nuke from AZ Cardinals…he was speeding down the shoulder in his farari, while the traffic was moving slowly.

    Maybe there were other issues with him in Houston, that we didn’t hear about and why they decided to trade him

  51. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Looks like the Dolphins are going to trade with the Texans, but it is McKinney for Lawson

  52. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Is this Shaq Lawson trade an upgrade at LB? To fill a hole, imo….?

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Or, it makes it easier to double down at LB, a need, imo. One FA, one drafted.

      Zaven Collins from Tulsa? Why? Not even close to size, speed, competition of big league college football. How does that translate to the NFL. I don’t see it.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      The only thing he has going for him is his size. And, perhaps that’s it at Tulsa, a man among boys.

  53. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

  54. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I actually really liked McKinney coming out of TAMU

    He’s not really a great pass rusher but he’s the really deal in terms of a run staffing inside linebacker

    Pound for pound I think he’s just a better football player than Lawson

    Trying to figure out what the Dolphins are doing here though with movement of van not and now Lawson for a guy that’s not likely to bring more pressure

    Maybe we are making a play on a big free agent signing at edge?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Or maybe we go big on an edge in the draft. Whichever it is an edge is in our future. Now right up there with WR.

  55. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    The depth at pass rusher going into free agency is one of the deepest we’ve seen in recent years

  56. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I’m pretty happy with the trade. I think that gives us the LB we need next to Baker, and now we can focus on drafting a pass rushing LB better than Lawson. I wasn’t thrilled with Lawson, so I think it works for us.

  57. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Welcome the Lunar Steamroller

    Wedge Scouting Report: Benardrick McKinney

  58. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Some are saying Hagler died of Covid

  59. Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

    Saw the headline on my sports news app: “Dolphins make trade with Texans” and I literally choked on my coffee. Very interesting trade. As I commented a few days ago, I felt Flores saw LB as our biggest weakness. We just might be going D for FA and draft for offense.

  60. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Take a moment to recognize

  61. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Dolphins seem to be wanting to sign Tyrod Taylor

  62. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    bleacher report says kenny golladay will sign with miami

  63. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    do they dump albert wilson and save 2.85 in cap?

  64. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    dumping allen hurns save 760k, not sure if that’s wise to do, hurns is a good rec

  65. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Flores and Grier sure ain’t afraid to shake things up. Van Noy and Lawson weren’t “want that guy off my team bad” moves — more like “we can get a little better” moves.

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      you never know how these moves will pan out, they could be for the worst, the LBer hits our cap at 7m

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Just saying that is what our braintrust is thinking. If this was like math no one would know what a “draft bust” is. One thing I liked to read about McKinney was that he didn’t fit with the Texans switch from a 3-4 to a 4-3. So not necessarily about play.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Thats good to hear Stanger

  66. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Texans gave Miami their 2021 seventh-round pick in exchange for the Dolphins’ 2021 sixth-round draft pick

    McKinney , 28, played just four games in 2020 due to a shoulder injury, but was in the 2018 Pro Bowl, McKinney is 6-foot-4, 257 pounds so thumping shouldn’t be a problem.

  67. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    This FO has shown they will keep plugging in pieces and removing others until they get the fits they want, and they don’t waste any time. Lawson, Van Noy, Roberts- 3 big acquisitions from a year ago, all gone.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      And our D was good. Would hate to be Grier or Flores’ kid presenting his report card. 🙂

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        LMAO

        “All right Billy, you’ve got a few too many average grades here, including a ‘D’, so the family is looking to make a change. We’re going to go ahead and make a move with the Johnsons down the street. You’ll be living with them now, and they will also be getting the Toyota. We’ve picked up Lily, the Johnson’s teenager daughter, and their newborn Edward. It’ll be a fresh start for everyone. We wish you nothing but the best.”

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        LOL — brilliant. And if another family’s kid is looking real stellar, the three kids born will be offered up.

  68. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Cannon was supposed to be a big piece returning, that opted out in 2020. Maybe big cheat wasn’t thrilled he opted out

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Could be. He’s been a rock on their oline for a decade, so it’s kind of a surprise move. All they really did was upgrade some late rd picks.

  69. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    McKinney is the type of defender, that doesn’t pick a hole to go thru, he fights his man, then goes to the correct side.

    Kiko was the type of guy that would sell out and pick a side ( like a goalie on a penalty kick), then when he was wrong the RB would be off to the races. Used to drive me nuts

  70. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Texans trading for Marcus Cannon is clearly a move that says the Texans are keeping Watson. That’s it, case closed, STFU about us trading for Watson, it’s over. lol

  71. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Smart to make this trade, first it swaps 2 LBs that were playing in the wrong systems, then you don’t have to pay the big money like in FA.

  72. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Rousseau now seems to be in play at 18, instead of an LB.

    Our FO isn’t afraid to take a chance, and if it doesn’t work they fix it

  73. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Omar thinks this trade means we have a big time pass rusher locked and loaded in FA.

    Dupree?

  74. D's avatar D says:

    McKinney was my favorite LB of that class. I wanted us to start him. I kinda hate losing Shaq Lawson but probably what was needed to get the job done. The Texans needed help at that spot losing Watt.

  75. D's avatar D says:

    I really hope the think about Pitts with their first pick, hopefully after trade back. I think he is one of the most safe bets of this draft class and having him with Gesicki, a guy like Najee in the backfield, and a WR from the top two rounds we will be very hard to defend

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Love the thought of Pitts. Would be one of the bonus possibilities from trading down. But do you take him over one of the top 3 WRs? I would, but not so sure the team would.

  76. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I like the McKinney/Lawson trade. Lawson did some nice things but I also felt he was on the slow side as an edge OLB. McKinney should upgrade the LB position. He’s a good overall LB. We ask our LBs to do a lot of things and he’s a good fit.

  77. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    What’s with all the pick swapping by the Texans

    Mel Kiper’s hair is going to fall out trying to keep track of that

  78. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I swear I didn’t enter this contest

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      You sure you don’t have that jersey over at your place? No better gift you could have given him than going from the Texans to the Phins at the same salary. Gonna send you another Texans jersey….. guess which one? 🙂

  79. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I know some of you guys here like WR Elijah Moore. Just ran a 6.62 3 cone drill. That’s elite.

  80. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Steve,
    The comment about the Texans upgrading at RT to prepare for a left handed QB was, clever, witty, and scary, all at the same time. 😒

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      It was witty, not scary. Texans are going to work things out with Watson

      • D's avatar D says:

        You should have seen the absurd trade that was suggested on online. Tua, Wilkins, a first this year, a first in 2023 a second this year and a second in 2022 for Watson. Seriously if the do something like that I’m over this organization

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        I saw it, and thought if the Dolphins did that, I would scream. Four 1st RD picks and two 2nd RD picks.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        D & Mike — Adjusting for year to 2021 picks I see a 1st, a 2nd, 2 3rds plus Wilkins and Tua. Not saying I’d do it but is in line with what people are talking about. Least better than talking Howard.

  81. D's avatar D says:

    I definitely would go pass rusher in FA even though that’s kinda expensive. I don’t like this draft class for edge. It’s void of elites, heavy on the good but no excellent/elites.

  82. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    I like what we’ve already done this offseason. I really want to see who they are targeting for FA pass rush though.

  83. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  84. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I like the McKinney trade a lot. Filling that hole in the middle also almost tells me Micah Parsons is out of the picture.

  85. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I don’t mind paying big money for a legit pass rusher. It’s a QB driven league and you need guys who can get after them especially with Josh Allen in our division and Mahomes in the conference.

  86. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I’m glad we’re not paying top $ for Jones.

  87. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    The Lawson trade was the 19th Dolphins trade since Flores joined Grier in 2019

    https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/news/miami-dolphins-busy-making-trades-over-past-two-years

  88. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Stanger – Both Wilkins and Tua were first RD picks, #13 and #5 respectively.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Absolutely they were. If came off wrong, I’m sorry. Was just explaining how see it in my mind. And the values of Tua and Wilkins aren’t just draft picks but players now to me.

  89. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rob – You’ll be happy to know my buddy who’s a Steelers fan thinks Tua’s throwing motion is terrible also. I’ll be laughing when he shows both of you how good he really is.

  90. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Also glad that Aaron Jones re-signed with the Packers. I think he belongs there. Now let’s get our RB in the draft!

  91. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Tim Knight says:
    March 14, 2021 at 5:00 pm (Edit)
    I don’t mind paying big money for a legit pass rusher. It’s a QB driven league and you need guys who can get after them especially with Josh Allen in our division and Mahomes in the conference.

    *******

    I get excited about drafting pass rushers but the reality is that many don’t pan out in the nfl

    If feels like a high risk position in terms of landing a good pass rusher

    It’s one of the areas, along with OL, I justify spending big free agent money on

  92. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

  93. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    If we sign a free argent pass rusher, where does Ogbah fit?

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      On the other side.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I remember seeing our lineup listed as:
      DE Ogbah (left/strong side)
      NT Davis
      DT Wilkins
      OLB Lawson
      OLB Van Noy
      ILB Baker
      ILB ? (whoever was listed as the starter)

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Van Ginkel played a lot at weak side LB at the end of the year, that’s where Lawson played most of the season.. Van Noy was usually on the strong side. I guess we should have seen the light back then.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Elandon Roberts was the starter inside when he was healthy, and if he was out it was a combo of Kamu Grugier-Hill and Sam Eguaoven

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Yes and Van Ginkel played on both sides. Hopefully he’ll take another step this year. He had a solid season at OLB last season.

  94. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, same here on the rules. I felt like I knew this stuff but then something would change and I’d say when did that change? LOL

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I didn’t realize that players could re-sign with their own teams either. It’s too complicated, and too many things to remember.

  95. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:
    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      if we do sign a pass rusher in free agency and don’t pick up a vet WR I think it opens the door for a 2nd wr for us in day 2 of the draft

  96. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Van Ginkel actually had more game starts than Lawson, 11 – 7.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Lawson missed a few games with injuries. But I think the coaches didn’t think he was the right fit for what they want to do on defense. He’s more of a DE than OLB.

  97. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I think they saw KVN may have lost a step on the outside and Lawson didn’t have the speed/quickness of Van Ginkle. Sitting back, I am not so surprised of these moves. If we make a move for Dupree, we would have an awesome LB group in:
    OLB Bud Dupree
    ILB McKinney
    ILB Baker
    OLB Van Ginkle

    I would like that!

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